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Any thoughts from anyone regarding Steve Stone as a Sox radio announcer now?

I personally found this shocking, especially after half of the season passing by without knowing.  I also found this interesting considering what happened in 2004 and because it's the second series of the season between the Cubs and Sox.  My wife is a huge Stone fan and felt it was the perfect way to stick it to the Cubs.  I think even FOX mentioned this on yesterday's game.

Just found this interesting....

 

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As I told you when you emailed me this...

... this was discussed at length when he was hired. Stone’s a bitter old man who got quite arrogant in his last couple of years with the Cubs. His time has passed. I don’t think this has anything to do with “sticking” it to anyone. Stone wanted a job and the Sox had one available. He happens to like living in Chicago, thus it was a good situation to accept.

Let’s move on. I’ve had enough of Stone.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 29, 2008 7:41 AM CDT   0 recs

During the season he does, and has for years...

... including the time after he left the Cubs.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 29, 2008 12:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sure, he might have a "place" here now

but he didn’t before he worked for the White Sox. He lived (lives) in Phoenix (where his wife lives) and traveled with espn and also back and forth to chicago. Saying he lives in Chicago is like saying all players live in the city they play for. Some do, but most don’t.

by Tackle Box on Jun 29, 2008 12:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I guess I could have been clearer.

I am well aware Stone’s permanent home is in the Phoenix area. However, he likes Chicago and has lived here during the season for years and wanted to work in this media market. Maybe that makes more sense.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 29, 2008 12:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree with Al

Stone became very arrogant his last couple of years. Although some of the Cubs acted like jerks in 2004, Stone took every opportunity to throw kerosine on the fire. As far as I’m concerned he is just a bitter ex employee. Harry would be very disappointed in the guy Stone turned out to be.

by Rick B on Jun 29, 2008 8:12 AM CDT   0 recs

This guy?

Stone played for the White Sox, as did Ron Santo, so it’s not really a big deal.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 29, 2008 8:53 AM CDT   0 recs

Steve Stone

can’t carry Bob Brenly’s microphone.

by Clark Addison on Jun 29, 2008 9:31 AM CDT   0 recs

Um...

They’re kind of the same.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 29, 2008 9:46 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't know him personally

But I talked to a client who golfed in the same foursome with Stone, and said he is just about the biggest ass he has ever met. He professed to having been a fan of his broadcasting and looked forward to meeting him before, now he said he will never listen to him again.

"The ever-changing kaleidescope of raw reality would defeat the human mind by its complexity, except for the mind's ability to abstract, to pick out parts and think of them as the whole." -Thomas Sowell

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jun 29, 2008 9:53 AM CDT   0 recs

I heard a Stone story from his playing days

with the Cubs that forever changed my opinion of him. A client of my brother’s told us of going to see a Cubs game in the mid-seventies and sitting right near where Stone was warming up. The client had gone to college with Stone, lived in the same frat house and were part of a fairly close knit group. Anyway, he calls over to him and say’s “hi Steve, remember we were in school together, etc.” Stone turns to him and says “Who gives a f…...?” and turns away. So, yeah, I can totally believe that he’s an arrogant jerk and I can sort of understand where a lot of the anti-Stone feeling was coming from in ‘04.

Brenly, for what it’s worth, is one of the nicest, most down-to earth guys you could ever meet.

by bluekoolaide on Jun 29, 2008 10:01 AM CDT   0 recs

Maybe the client of your brother

is an ignorant jerk and thinks he can just walk up to a pitcher who is warming up for his start and decide to have a conversation on his terms? How many people do you think tell players they know them or grew up with them or went to school with them when they probably only know of said player?

Takes a lot of ignorant balls to walk up to a starting pitcher in the bullpen and try to get his attention.

by Tackle Box on Jun 29, 2008 11:46 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe, but...

... if you thought said starting pitcher was a close friend (which appears to have been the case), a “Hey, I’m busy, catch you later” response would have been more appropriate.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 29, 2008 12:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

okay, but you are taking the "side"

of a person who has a brother who knows a guy who may or may not actually know Stone and probably felt slighted and might have exagerated the story over the years because he was embarassed in front of his friends/girlfriend/kid/whatever.

I’ll side with the fact that Steve Stone was a professional starting pitcher who was not only in his routine, but was warming up on the bullpen mound, who didn’t want to be interrupted by anyone and anyone who knows anything about baseball would have let the guy alone. Instead, this guy acted like he was the one who mattered and that Stone should just take himself out of his pregame warmup just to acknowledge to his friends or whatever that he knew Steve Stone.

Who sounds like the arrogant jerk now?

by Tackle Box on Jun 29, 2008 12:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Both of them.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 29, 2008 12:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Touche

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jun 29, 2008 12:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

meow

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jun 29, 2008 1:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I CAN HAZ CHEEZBORGER?

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 29, 2008 1:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You know what

That was uncalled for and I refuse to allow myself to act like a classless loser like you do. I appoligize for the quick “get bent” comment. It was uncalled for. But I think you just answered the question of who is acting like a jerk.

by Tackle Box on Jun 29, 2008 5:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

come on buddy

we have all done the quick comment like that, but as a frequent poster you should know that Sue isnt trying to stir trouble.

Shes the BEST poster ever…....

GO CUBS

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 29, 2008 5:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Your argumentative

ways on here get old. You nit pick every little thing.

by sue369 on Jun 29, 2008 6:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You are bright enough to realize

Al did acknowdge that my argument about the “other” guy had validity, right? So, just if I offer a differing opinion, you can call me an arrogant jerk?

Says a lot about your character. I’ve never called you or anyone else on here a name and when I reacted to your comment, I was actually adult enough to appoligize.

by Tackle Box on Jun 29, 2008 7:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

snore snore snore snore

(snore)

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 29, 2008 8:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Why do you think he can’t get a job in baseball? ESPN dumped him and the only thing he could get was a last minute deal with the Sox. Hope he stays there for good.
He thinks he’’s the smartest man in baseball, but no one in the game shares that opinion. Why do you think he never got a sniff at a GM job? He lobbied for the chance, but his acerbic personality turns off most people. BTW, the players were right in ‘04.

by cubswin on Jun 29, 2008 10:07 AM CDT   0 recs

It's funny but at the time it was all going down in late '04

I was completely in Stone’s corner. Now, from the distance of a few years, I’ve changed my opinion completely.

by bluekoolaide on Jun 29, 2008 10:11 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Me. too.

Stone has completely turned me off with his over-the-top arrogance.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 29, 2008 10:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This is a great diary

Great. The best thing about Stone with the White Sox is that is made me dislike Farmer less because Stone is the biggest arrogant SOB. Its great to first guess and be right buts its another thing to do it for just about every at bat and be right about 5% of the time.

Hawk Harrelson, Ozzie, Kenny and Steve. They are the perfect group of arrogant jackassess.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 29, 2008 10:11 AM CDT   0 recs

Right on.

I think the north side got very lucky when Stone and Caray left and we landed Len and B.B.-I hope those two are in the Cubs’ tv booth for the next twenty years.

by bluekoolaide on Jun 29, 2008 10:13 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jun 29, 2008 10:15 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LSA

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 29, 2008 12:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not lucky enough...

to win a World Series yet!

If you think you've seen it all...just wait!

by CubFanSince1970 on Jun 29, 2008 1:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't have a problem

with Steve Stone. I don’t even have a problem with Joe Morgan. It’s June 29th, and our Cubbies have the best record in the National League…..End of story.

Hey Lou, we're long overdue.

by deadcatbounce on Jun 29, 2008 1:16 PM CDT   0 recs

I like Stone, too

He and Farmer provide the only listenable White Sox broadcasts. Maybe he is a little arrogant, but he also is one of the best, if not the best, at what he does. So that doesn’t surprise me.

I wish he still were with the Cubs, but Brenly is a good replacement. I liked Brenly when he was with the Cubs the first go-round, too.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 2:13 PM CDT   0 recs

Brenly

Brenly was with the Cubs before?

by jaredprebish on Jun 29, 2008 2:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes.

He did radio for the Cubs in 1990 and 1991.

This information is freely available, incidentally. I knew this already, but you could have found this here.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 29, 2008 2:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you can be the 'best'

but whats the point when probably 50% of your fans dislike you and think you are a jerk?

Id rather be liked and be good than be the ‘best’ and be hated

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 29, 2008 2:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Let's be honest

I don’t remember too many Cubs fans complaining about Stone when he was with the Cubs. He most certainly was correct in the showdown he had with Dusty in 2004.

Some of the carping about Stone today comes off as sour grapes, IMHO.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2008 3:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Always liked Stone

as an announcer. Apparently he’s an ass, but I used to really enjoy his broadcasts.

Free Ronny Cedeno

by Kansas25 on Jun 29, 2008 4:22 PM CDT   0 recs

As usual

Cubs fans throwing Stone under the bus.

Tremendously embarrassing.

DmL

by dmlichte on Jun 29, 2008 5:54 PM CDT   0 recs

oh well

its a shame the rest of the world doesnt know hes a jagbag (RIP Mike North—-you suck)

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 29, 2008 6:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

btw....

who is this embarrassing? Cubs fans? Ha…lol

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 29, 2008 6:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Stone belongs under the bus.

Never forget that Stone quit, thankfully.

Ever notice that guys who claim to “tell it like it is” usually wouldn’t know the truth if it bit them in the rear.

Ozzie, Stone, North, ....

by cubswin on Jun 29, 2008 6:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Stone has a right to be bitter because...

...in my opinion he was thrown under the bus and not a single damned member of the Cub organization had the guts to throw him a lifeline.

GET Rich Harden !!! 11 starts, 5-0, 57 IP, 83 Ks, 2.15 ERA !!!

by MDBNIU on Jun 29, 2008 7:03 PM CDT   0 recs

Why would they?

He had no real friends throughout the entire organization. He was and still is very disliked by everyone there. From the top on down.

by cubswin on Jun 29, 2008 7:36 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That is 100% true.

He wasn’t thrown under the bus. Instead, the truth is that he didn’t just burn bridges, he reduced them to ashes with a flamethrower. John McDonough could have fired him, instead, he gracefully let Stone quit.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 30, 2008 3:36 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Len Kaspar sucks

There, I said it. And believe me I am not the only Cub fan in this town who thinks that. Kaspar is a rambling anal retentive weenie. He is so in over his head for the job of being play-by-play announcer for the Chicago Cubs that it’s not even funny. It can be the middle of a bases loaded rally and there’s Kaspar babbling about the fictious podcast studio for the 100th millionith time or something similarily boring / assinine. He sucks. The only redeeming thing is that Bob Brenly is around to slap him upside the head on ocassion.

GET Rich Harden !!! 11 starts, 5-0, 57 IP, 83 Ks, 2.15 ERA !!!

by MDBNIU on Jun 29, 2008 7:08 PM CDT   0 recs

my girlfriend thinks youre a 'moron'

and her opinion holds a lot more water than yours…....

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 29, 2008 8:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That'll buy you some bonus points....

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 29, 2008 10:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

the good thing for you is

you and Len (in your opinion) are both babbling, boring, assine suckfest morons…...dont forget to eat the crow i gave you…

“Marshall wont last 4 innings” youre a tool——Not a Hammer, a inferior tool

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 29, 2008 8:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Like this one?

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 29, 2008 9:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

or maybe more like this one

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2008 8:41 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not 1/10th

the amount you do.

by sue369 on Jun 30, 2008 1:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Could someone....

...please give specifics of how Steve Stone “Burned Bridges” with the Cubs or what he did that was so awful during that unforgettable ‘04 season. I remember Stone calling out bad, selfish. stupid baseball which BB has been doing since he replaced Stoney. If he is “Sticking” it to the Cubs then why does he give a fair and balanced assessment of the Cubs when he’s giving his Chicago Baseball Analysis on the Score, most of this year he has been very fair with the Cubs most of the time proclaiming the Cubs are the team to beat in the NL. This doesn’t sound like a bitter old man to me.

by troutfishin on Jun 30, 2008 9:49 AM CDT   0 recs

DAMN

Steve Stone is the best color analyst the Cubs have ever had. Bar none. Yes, that includes Brenly. That’s no slight to Bob though. He’s very good as well and would like him to stay a long time.

Stoney got screwed by the Cubs because he was unafraid to tell it like it is and being truthful with with fans in his analysis. And as the ONLY person in this thread to have actually met the man, I can say that his arrogance has been GREATLY exaggerated. I met Steve during a ballgame at the Arizona Fall League last year. There was another fan there and we had a spirited conversation for a couple of innings before Steve excused himself and left for home.

It’s amazing how much credence you people give second or third hand accounts of someone’s demeanor. Stuff that would never hold up in a court of law is considered rock solid evidence by his haters here.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by WayneCampbell08 on Jun 30, 2008 1:02 PM CDT   0 recs

It's not from second or third hand accounts.

It’s from listening to him on Sox broadcasts and on his weekly radio gigs. Much of what’s stated here are opinions, which require no evidence. You like Brenly; I happen to think he’s a bilious, biased hack. To each his own. “In matters of taste, there can be no dispute.”

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2008 2:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's the court of public opinion

Your post is silly bringing up this nonsense.

“Stuff that would never hold up in a court of law is considered rock solid evidence by his haters here.”

All I know is he won’t be back, thankfully.

by cubswin on Jun 30, 2008 7:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Steve Stone-whiner...

Does any one remember in the 1970’s when Stone left the Cubs to go to Baltimore? He basically called the Cub orginization a minor leage oufit and expressed how happy he was to leave. He should have stayed in Baltimore where the east coast could appreciate his giant ego.

by Arden on Jul 4, 2008 11:43 AM CDT   0 recs

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