Edmonds Diary!!11
by joeschmitt on Jun 3, 2008 12:54 AM CDT
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The Cubs are 13-5 (.722) since signing edmonds, having gone from 1 game back of the d-bags for best record in NL at 24-16 . . .
to best record in the NL by 3 games over the phillies at 37-21.
Also during that time, edmonds is 10 for 35 for .286 / .324 / .543 and an OPS of .867, eerily similar to his career 162-game averages of .285 / .377 / .526 / .903.
Thank you, Padres, for your benevolence. And welcome, Jimmy Ballgame.
Can we all get behind this CUB now and let go of the past?
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I honestly don't care that he was once a Cardinal
I only care that he isn’t the player that he once was.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
by Blue W on Jun 3, 2008 1:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't have to be...
...the player he was in his prime to help the club out.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Jun 3, 2008 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neither do I
And no one cared about the damage Derek Lee did in 2003 NLCS either.
"You know they're not going to lose 162 games." Harry Caray
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 3, 2008 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 3, 2008 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This quote from Lous says it best...
“He’s doing a nice job,” Piniella said. “We had some patience with him, and it’s starting to pay off.”
More than what can be said about most of the people here who wanted him launched by now…
Dallas Green!
by SonnyJ9 on Jun 3, 2008 3:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Give Lou credit.
I was one of those “launch him” people.
But he does appear to be coming around. I still think it’s too early to judge him “back”, but there are positive signs.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 3, 2008 4:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I neve wanted him signed.
And I still wonder where this patience was with Pie.
That said, I’m overjoyed that Edmonds is hitting well enough to help the Cubs win!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 3, 2008 6:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who says
You should have the same patience with everyone?
Having the same patience with everyone is a positive quality?
by Luis on Jun 3, 2008 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't twist my statement.
I just would have liked to see Lou be as patient with Pie as he’s been with Edmonds. I’m not making any sort of normative claim about objective standards of patience for a baseball manager. I’m simply stating what I would have liked to see happen and wondering, quite innocently, why it didn’t happen that way. I’m not trying to build a value system, but thanks for the wildly irrelevant question.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 3, 2008 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pie had 63 AB's
Edmonds has 35 thus far (.286 .324 .543) If anything, Edmonds has more AB’s to go before making a decision if Pie’s 63 (.222 .286 .286) is to be used as any kind of a benchmark (which in reality, it shouldn’t).
by blackhawk24 on Jun 3, 2008 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh.
Pie was with the team for 38 games, of which he started 15 (39%), and was allowed to finish 11(28%) of those starts. His 63 AB’s in the 30 games in which appeared give him an average of 2.1 AB’s per game.
Edmonds has been with the Cubs for 18 games, of which he has started 9 (50%), and he has been allowed to complete all of his starts. His 35 AB’s in the 12 games in which he has appeared give him an average of 2.9 AB’s per game.
So, it would appear that Edmonds has indeed been granted more leeway than Pie to play through his struggles. Plus he’s been placed in a straight platoon, a situation that Pie never enjoyed.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 3, 2008 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pie's future
I wonder if at this point his future is with another team.
I hope not. I really like the kid and think if everyone would lay off he’d come around.
But it’s obvious Lou has lost confidence in him and his talent is just being wasted in AAA.
I’m just wondering.
by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 3, 2008 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
barring an injury to one of the OF’ers, and provided he continues to hit the way he has this past week or so, Pie will probably be called up sometime after the ASB. However, I don’t think he’s going to get another shot at the starting CF gig until next season. IMO, that ship has sailed for Lou.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 3, 2008 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pie's problems at the plate
have nothing to do with the Cubs as a culture or organization. A doubt a change of scenery will make any difference. It has to do with bad hitting mechanics IMHO
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by digitalbenjamin on Jun 3, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like Edmonds mechanics that the Cubs help fix?
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 3, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t think the cubs fixed anything about Edmonds swing… unless you’ve heard differently
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by digitalbenjamin on Jun 4, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
“And I still wonder where this patience was with Pie.”
That statement implies both that they should have had the same amount of patience with Pie and that that is what a good manager should have done.
by Luis on Jun 3, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it implies I wish they had exercised more patience.
I’m not making some ought statement, because there’s no real standrard to appeal to as an objective basis. Simply stating a wish, nothing more, no need to push the point further.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 3, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
personally
I think they should have had more patience with Pie. The upside is almost infinitely better.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 3, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From our perspective it probably is
However, what goes on behind practices we do not see likely had determined their course of action.
We always speculate things based on our observations. Here its Pie not getting a chance. How do we really, really know they worked on his stance and stroke time and time again in practice only for him to swing half the time like Corey Patterson? Answer is, we don’t know.
Of course the upside is greater, but if he’s not producing, he’s not producing.
Edmonds is a low risk, low cost insurance policy while Pie works on things in AAA. It’s that simple.
by blackhawk24 on Jun 3, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
like they had
with pie?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 3, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF...
he continues to hit, the lineup looks great. A player like Derosa hitting 8th says it all. When I read Jimmy Ballgame though I had to run to the bathroom.
by Comfortably Numb on Jun 3, 2008 4:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I supported it with caution
thinking it was simply to get Pie a chance to work on things at AAA. If they caught lightning in a bottle, that’d be great. Well, it’s starting to lean a little in that direction. He got another big hit last night. At least one I know of when I wasn’t watching triple OT Stanley Cup hockey..
by blackhawk24 on Jun 3, 2008 6:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha
Let me remind people of something, .368/ .403/.559. That’s Neifi Perez’s line from 4/2005.
by jolietconvict on Jun 3, 2008 7:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Point taken.
However, even at his best (which was long before he was a Cub), Perez wasn’t anywhere near the player Edmonds was at his best.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 3, 2008 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed...
...but Edmonds has played like Perez this year.
by jolietconvict on Jun 3, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So far, yes.
Given what he’s done the last few days, I’m willing to give him a LITTLE more slack.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 3, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
He’s played like a marginally defencive player with absolutely no power what so ever; yeah right.
by blackhawk24 on Jun 3, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, you have been watching the games, right?
In his last four (games, that is), Edmonds has a home run, a triple, and four doubles. How is that “absolutely no power”? And I can’t recall any problems with his glove either.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 3, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guess the last two words of sarcasm didn't resonate well
I stated Edmonds was nothing like Perez.
I’m in on the Edmonds experiment since he’s worked out a stance issue with Perry.
by blackhawk24 on Jun 3, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, sorry. I'm gonna go ahead and confess I didn't read the thread very carefully.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 3, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
post-guessing hack!
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Jun 3, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I swung at one low and out of the zone there.
You should see my Hummer, though. It rules!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 3, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he contributes the rest of the season.
I have learned to accept him as long as he helps us win.
Calm down.
by Kinky Reggae on Jun 3, 2008 7:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Who cares if he was a Cardinal?
I’ve never been one of these hate the opponent guys. Beat them, yes. Hate them, no. I never hated him on the Cardinals.
That said, I was also a “He’s Done” guy. I’ll be happy to admit I was wrong if he his hitting is any indication.
by rlpete on Jun 3, 2008 8:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 3, 2008 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LSA.
With every sound hit, Edmonds buys himself a little more time to prove himself. And as long as he keeps buying, I don’t have a problem with the Cubs selling. I’m still a little sad, disappointed and confused about the Pie situation, but you can’t argue with success—and this team has continued to be successful with Jimmy B-Game on the field.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 3, 2008 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
As long as Edmonds keeps hitting, I’ll keep cheering!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 3, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto
It’s too early to tell, but siging Edmonds may be one of the moves that puts us over the top and on our way to the WS. It looks like Pie is starting to come out of his funk after being sent down and Edmonds is stroking the ball like we’re used to seeing. Pie is still the future and we want to win it all this year. As long as Pie keeps his head up and looks at the big picture, he’ll be fine and probably starting in CF next year. Edmonds was a low risk move and it looks like it’s working quite well.
I didn’t care if Edmonds was a Cardinal, I don’t care where anyone comes from, as long as they play hard and help us win ballgames.
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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 3, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate Ryne Sandberg...
cause he used to be a Philly.
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by digitalbenjamin on Jun 3, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch...
that cuts deep man ;)
"Dad gum right this games gonna be played under protest. . . I guarantee this is gonna be one protest that's upheld." --Hawk Harrelson, 6/24/07
by RynoHoF on Jun 3, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 3, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just to clarify… i was being sarcastic :)
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by digitalbenjamin on Jun 4, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no worries
I knew you were.
"Dad gum right this games gonna be played under protest. . . I guarantee this is gonna be one protest that's upheld." --Hawk Harrelson, 6/24/07
by RynoHoF on Jun 4, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My dislike for the guy was actually
more because he always struck me as a douche bag. Same way I think LaRussa is garbage. Not good people IMO. I have no personal experience with the guy but have heard second hand stories as well as just watched him behave.
All that said, I am on his bandwagon if he continues to show promise.
I still wish Pie were up here getting ABs though.
Calm down.
by Kinky Reggae on Jun 3, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Edmonds was DONE too, but . . .
with his recent trend, i am thinking that I was wrong.
On another note: Is it time to see what this lineup could do with Dome in the 2nd spot and Edmonds 5th? I think we will be seeing this pretty soon, especially if Edmonds has a couple more games like his last few.
Complicating this is the fact that Dome is only 2 points higher than Theriot in OBP. But it is likely that Dome would see better pitches to hit if he were in front of Lee and Ramirez, thereby giving him a better chance to increase his OBP.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jun 3, 2008 9:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
agree
let’s see Dome in the 2nd spot.
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by digitalbenjamin on Jun 3, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree...Edmonds is now hitting like an RBI type
and Fukudome is almost a mail order #2 hitter so far this year…
BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"
by cubfever7 on Jun 3, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Plus, his taking of many pitches can help Lee in the batter’s box time the pitcher’s pitches. Also, gives the leadoff more chances to steal, although that wont be an issue unless Soriano gets his wheels under him.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 3, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Credit...
.....to Gerald Perry suggesting pulling back on Edmonds’ “glide” in his swing. Credit to Edmonds’, as a veteran, listening to Gerald Perry and trying something different.
He really has been driving the ball explosively the last 3 games.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis
by carmen_fanzone on Jun 3, 2008 10:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pie v. Edmonds
Count me among the people who thought we should have kept Pie, but is pleasantly surprised so far with Edmonds (although I think Pie is still stronger defensively).
One thing to note in debating the “patience” with which Lou treated these players – Pie is young with very little in the way of a track record, while Edmonds has been an All-Star caliber CFer and hitter. Lou might reasonably give a longer leash to a proven veteran player than he would to a rookie…..you might disagree with the tactic, but it is a sound tactic.
That being said, Pie is STILL young, and STILL has plenty of time to fix any flaws in his game and contribute to the Cubs, this year or next or down the line. I think he’ll be a VERY good player one day, and look forward to him roaming CF for years to come.
by Chadnudj on Jun 3, 2008 10:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jun 3, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and noise we have been hearing says
Pie is in fact hitting now as well.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 3, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank goodness for Edmonds and Johnson because Pie can't hit MLB pitching
Get Rich Harden !! 7 starts, 3-0, 41 IP, 49 Ks, 2.61 ERA
by MDBNIU on Jun 3, 2008 10:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank goodness for every other commentor on this site,
because you have no idea what you are talking about.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 3, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amply more qualified to make assessment then you are pal.
Get Rich Harden !! 7 starts, 3-0, 41 IP, 49 Ks, 2.61 ERA
by MDBNIU on Jun 3, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
May we see your resume, please?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 3, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not going there
I’m not about to divulge my personal identity. I can tell you that I was a 2 year starter for the Northern Illinois University baseball program in the early 80’s. Played for the great Walt Owens who remains a close friend.
Get Rich Harden !! 7 starts, 3-0, 41 IP, 49 Ks, 2.61 ERA
by MDBNIU on Jun 3, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that qualifies you to appraise MLB players how?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 3, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yawn
I’ve never pretended to be a major league scout. Having said that I do think I have qualifications that extend beyond a bunch of angry Nintendo Gameboy players who got the Bill James Encyclopedia for Christmas.
Get Rich Harden !! 7 starts, 3-0, 41 IP, 49 Ks, 2.61 ERA
by MDBNIU on Jun 3, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What qualifications?
And I’m not a big video game guy. I prefer a good book. You should try reading books. You learn stuff, like how to make sound arguments, and how to support your assertions with facts. Interesting stuff.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 3, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yawn
You’re one of the nameless rabble who repeatedly infers you’re smarter than Lou Piniella, Gerald Perry, et al. You do things like wail and gnash teeth when Felix Pie doesn’t pay despite the fact that he couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with his bat. You diminish and undercut the invaluable contributions of Ryan Theriot. You say things like Rich Hill was screwed over. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Get Rich Harden !! 7 starts, 3-0, 41 IP, 49 Ks, 2.61 ERA
by MDBNIU on Jun 3, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you're the one who repeatedly makes personal attacks on people...
...rather than back up your overblown, hyperbolic assertions with reasonable arguments. But you knew that.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 3, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imply, you infer.
That’s logic lesson number one for BlueMike today.
Secondly, I’ve repeatedly stated Theriot is a valuable asset to this team; I just don’t think he should be starting. You can check my comment history if you wish, but then, that would be asking you to do some research and back up your blanket assertions and I’m not sure your ready for adult-level discourse yet.
Third, I trust Lou implicitly, but that doesn’t mean I can’t have and opinion about one of his moves, and express said opinion, when occasion arises. I just try to use facts and figures instead of bile and spleen, as you are wont to do.
Fourth, I was wrong about Hill getting screwed over, and I’ve said as much. He obviously needs to work out some kinks, and I’m confident he will.
Fifth, Felix has succeeded at evry level, given the opportunity to play. I’m confident he could have success at the ML level, because his minor league numbers mean much more to me than the your unsubstantiated rantings.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 3, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We already knew this.
You’ve mentioned it about 20 times.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 3, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then quit asking the question
Get Rich Harden !! 7 starts, 3-0, 41 IP, 49 Ks, 2.61 ERA
by MDBNIU on Jun 3, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He asked for your resume
You denied
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Jun 3, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only asked once. (And I was actually being sarcastic.)
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 3, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quote from the NIU playing field
BlueMike “What this teams is a bonafide number #2”
The Great Walt Owens “Does this kid think he knows everything because he is pissing me off”
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Jun 3, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's more...
BlueMike: That guy is a guess-hitting stats whore!
The Great Walt Owens: Um, Mike, that’s the batboy.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 3, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the corrolary for
“those who can’t do, teach” is NOT “those who can do, teach”. But in your case, we’ll make an exception.
I’d hate to see a little-league team coached by you. Although I’d bet it would look a lot like Dusty’s Reds.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 3, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you know this guy?
Do you know this guy?
Tommy Flanagan
“Yeah.. that’s the ticket! Yeah, you betcha! Yeah, that’s it.”
Hey, just havin’ fun.
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Jun 4, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, the above photos are are the property of NIU and SNL
n/t
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Jun 4, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Gary played 4 years in college
you only played 3
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Jun 3, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True,
but I was playing gin rummy.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 3, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I played with myself throughout college...
am I well equipped to comment on a major league stroke?
Calm down.
by Kinky Reggae on Jun 3, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 3, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, amazingly, you're still less blind than MDBNIU.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 3, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That may be true Daver but
just don’t ask to see my palms.
I kid.
Calm down.
by Kinky Reggae on Jun 3, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just pee on em
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Jun 3, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope...not working...
Calm down.
by Kinky Reggae on Jun 3, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently not where spelling an grammar are concerned.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 3, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually agree with you on this one.
Pie can’t hit MLB pitching…BECAUSE HE’S IN IOWA!!!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 3, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol...
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 3, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly why those two are here now and were not here 3 months ago
Pie was deemed not ready for the majors. IMHO the time his bat spends in the hitting zone as a percentage of time of the entire swing is very, very low.
When (if) Pie is deemed ready, he’ll be back. For now, the platoon guy and the stopgap guy are working just fine.
Next problem please…say like figuring out how to get more [innings] out of the SP’s…
by blackhawk24 on Jun 3, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Faith in Pie - yea or nay?
Some of us think Pie would be producing real well had he been kept on the roster and some of us don’t feel that way. Surely, the Cubs are better off getting as much production as possible from their centerfielder.
I’m glad Edmonds has found his stroke and I hope this continues. The platoon should make his and Johnson’s hitting stats look as good as possible because each outfielder is going up against the handed pitching they matchup with best.
by AboutTheCubs on Jun 3, 2008 3:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pie has been hitting in the minors this week
coincidently around the same time Jimmy is.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
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