Pregame Thread: Cubs vs. Giants, Monday 6/30, 9:15 CT
by Al on Jun 30, 2008 6:00 PM CDT
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Chicago Cubs at San Francisco Giants, Jun 30, 2008 9:15 PM CDT
"Partly cloudy". Thank heavens. At least the Cubs won't be dodging raindrops, as they have for most of the last ten days.
Now, a little perspective. We are one game into the second half, a loss (the Cubs also lost the first game of the season and three of the first four, for a little more perspective). Let's say I had told you, after that Opening Day loss, that:
- Alfonso Soriano was going to suffer two major injuries and would miss more than 30 games;
- Only Carlos Zambrano and Ryan Dempster would be consistent starters;
- Derrek Lee would be leading the majors in GIDP;
- And, the Cubs were going to unceremoniously dump one of their top prospects, Felix Pie, and replace him with a detested arch-rival who had hit .178 for another team before being unconditionally released.
Why, you'd probably have said the Cubs would be floundering around in third or fourth place, right? Of course, I'm cherry-picking stats to make a point, which is that most everything has actually gone right with the Cubs so far this year; they maintain a 2.5 game lead despite losing eight of their last twelve games. For some historical perspective on recent World Champions, see cocknfire's FanPost on the topic.
That said, this team has struggled on the road. A winning road trip -- even 4-3 -- would go a long way toward steadying the ship until the banged-up can return.
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Barry Zito has had a horrendous year. There's no sugarcoating it, and the 3-11, 5.91 numbers are well-deserved -- note that he really doesn't strike out people any more, having walked more than he's K'd. He's been good against the Cubs in his career, and was 1-1, 1.80 in two starts vs. the Cubs last year, but that was then and this is now. The walk totals should be good for the patient Cubs; if they can wait him out they should score. Derrek Lee is 5-for-8 with a HR lifetime against Zito, who may be among the worst free-agent signings ever.
Ted Lilly, after a poor start, is 7-1, 3.97 in his last 11 starts, with 23 BB and 70 K in 68 innings; this is in line with what he did last year, though the 14 HR in those 11 starts is a bit alarming. He's pitching in a good pitcher's park tonight; he's got a 6.08 ERA lifetime vs. the Giants, but most of that was in 2003 or earlier, when he was with Oakland and the Yankees. Last year, he was the winning pitcher in a 9-8 Cubs win at Wrigley Field. Of the current Giants, Aaron Rowand hits him the hardest (.375/.444/.563, 6-for-16, 1 HR).
Today's game is on CSN Plus -- CLTV in Chicago, which is also channel 174 on Comcast (in the city, at least) for the HD telecast. Otherwise it's EI or the MLB.com Mediacenter.
MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)
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Baseball-reference.com game preview
Today's first pitch thread will post just about the exact time of the scheduled first pitch -- 9:15 pm CT. The overflow comment threads will post at 10:15 pm and 11:15 pm CT, for you night owls (I have to go to sleep for work and won't see much of this game).
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Cubbies!
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
by eswan9 on Jun 30, 2008 6:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Go Cubs!
I hate these west coast games.. Pull them thru gang…..
by LT on Jun 30, 2008 6:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Some thoughts on Zito
I’ve been following Zito for a while now—I was a big fan of him when he was with the A’s, and I’ve been watching some of his last few starts to see just what happened to his once-Cy Young-caliber pitching ability.
You’re right for the most part Al - Zito has been dreadful for many, many starts this year, but lately he’s been turning it around. Since being demoted to the bullpen he’s gone something like 3-5, and his last start (in Cleveland) he looked really, really good - 6 1/3 IP with just 1 ER after Yabu gave up an inherited runner.
Apparently, this was due to a lower arm slot, which noticeably increased his velocity with a 2-seamer while keeping a sharp 12-6 curve relatively intact.
He’s got a lot of confidence going into today, and he always enjoys pitching against the Cubs. Don’t be surprised if this one turns out to be a tough game.
"And heeeere cooome the pretzels!"
by NightPutting on Jun 30, 2008 6:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You're right.
His last start was his first all year where he didn’t walk anyone. Maybe that’s what the new arm slot did. Hope the Cubs have a good scouting report.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 30, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zito
16 starts, only 80 innings. Lilly 17 starts, 98 innings. Wow, thats a difference I wasn’t expecting.
Lets go boys, go get ‘im!
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 6:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess I really lucked out
I’m a geek on 2 subjects. The Cubs and Star Wars specifically and science fiction and comic books in general.
Last weekend was Wizard World so I missed the majority of the 3 games indulging my inner geek. Maybe it’s my fault but I’m lucky I missed them.
Did hear of a few Ryan Dempster sightings though on Sunday. I know he’s a comic geek.
On a note on that. The Clone Wars is going to be freaking awesome dudes!
Go Cubs
by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 30, 2008 6:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
St Louis hacks up 2-0 after 1
They are winning at least 90 this year
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
by CubsBall2202 on Jun 30, 2008 6:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
they'll fall.
I guarantee it.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't seen anything to suggest that.
Even when Pujols went down their hack lineup still scored runs pretty easily.
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
by CubsBall2202 on Jun 30, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're just not going to last.
they’re gonna trip up.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Concurs...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 30, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so. Whenever I listen to this team I am sort of shocked with how consistently they get it done
even when they shouldn’t. We’re going to need to stay on top of this thing to win it.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They always do
Except, I mean, for all those division and world series titles
by Mapmaker on Jun 30, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Care to make it interesting $20 to Project 3000 says you're wrong
Witness?
[repeating my response from previous thread since CubsBall repeated his/her declaration from previous thread]
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Witnessed.
And I’ll put $20 to Project 3000 if they DON’T. Plus I’ll put another $20 to Project 3000 if we’re not 8 games up by August. Middle of August. August 15th.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
witnessed.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some bad news
I’ve been watching the Cardinals quite a bit on MLB TV and they’re a pretty good team. Already up 2-0 tonight. I don’t think they’re going away anytime soon.
by Mapmaker on Jun 30, 2008 6:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They will be there all year long
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
by CubsBall2202 on Jun 30, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cardinals
I think they’re better than most think but despite our awful 2 weeks they managed to gain 1 game.
Go Cubs
by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 30, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but they were without Pujols and still hung with us enough to gain.
I think the 2nd half is going to be a tough struggle to stay ahead of them.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
sigh
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
by Emelie on Jun 30, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your sigh says it all
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wonder if Cards fans
are as obsessive about the Cubs as some Cubs fans are about the Cardinals.
Who cares what the Cardinals do? If the Cubs take care of business, it’s no big deal.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, they're announcers are talking about us now. :P
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
their. yikes.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is totally in their hands, I agree
but I don’t know where the obsessive comment came from. just simply discussing the team that is chasing us and gaining on us.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As if they're the second coming of the '27 Yankees
The Cardinals do not frighten me. And they’re right where they’ve been for most of the season, standings-wise.
Once they get inside your head, you’re dead.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't belive for a second that anyone on this blog thinks
they are the 2nd coming of the ‘27 Yanks, but we are surprised that they are in 2nd place and have been there all season. I think the consensus prior to the season was they wouldn’t even have a sniff at the top spot. All the comments are simply stating that they are going to be right there with us, in our opinions. No one has said they feel the Cards will win the wild card, much less the division.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
But if the Cards win tonight and the Cubs lose, I fear the bed-wetting will begin around here.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
begin?
you mean… it could get worse? yuck.
ledge jumpers… so predictable.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure it will. Some of it started Friday.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should have added "in earnest"
Can’t stand the Cardinals. I respect them, but I’ll take Satchel Paige’s advice and not look over my shoulder.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I as well, but it's hard for me to not look in the rearview mirror LOL
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Objects in mirror appear closer than they actually are...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as that view is one game ahead at the end of game 162
i’m ok with it!
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cardinals SP is the main reason why the are in 2nd place
My God, their SP is full of scrubs except Wainwright. Their SP will not keep up their current performance once August sets in.
by Geo4MVP on Jun 30, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and their defense
they don’t give outs away.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And their bullpen
Meh…I think SP will be their main downfall.
by Geo4MVP on Jun 30, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I posted yesterday that the Cubs would win the division
but until the magic number eventually falls to 0, there will always be angst with me.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think most if not all of us feel that way.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 30, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm hardly obsessive
Just keeping an eye out on our competition
by Mapmaker on Jun 30, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's how I feel about it
and if their game is on when I’m not doing something else, I’ll definitely keep an eye on it and if people are commenting here, I’ll comment here as well.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're a sneaky bunch
and… 3-0
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
by Emelie on Jun 30, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the Mets handed them that last run. Wow.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think likely are
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game on DirecTV
Is on Ch. 668-1 in HD and 668 in SD.
by chilango2 on Jun 30, 2008 6:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dang
I just realized I’m going to have to listen to Kup and Krukow rather than Len and Bob.
Still, those two aren’t bad and at least Krukow’s an ex-Cub of my youth.
It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.
by Josh77 on Jun 30, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that Kup as in Duane Kuiper?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not Kup...
This is Kup.
Duane Kuiper is Kuip>
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 30, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game on Dish network
channel 450 in SD to begin, then channel 429 in HD (JIP) after end of White Sox game
"Yeeaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssssssssss!"
"Oh boy Patrick..."
"Because of that Home Run, Walgreens JD....donate...kids...to the needy fund...boy I'm just a little worked up." - Ron Santo
by IvyOnTheWall on Jun 30, 2008 6:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As are the Indians
or are the Socks this good?
Yes, Socks – just because the founding fathers of that organization had to dumb it down so their fans could spell it doesn’t mean I have to participate
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"
by lostinthevines on Jun 30, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Mets are really, really bad
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
by CubsBall2202 on Jun 30, 2008 6:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate when the Mets play the Cards
why can’t both teams lose?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 6:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha...I bet Ron Santo would love that
My God, HE absolutely HATES the Mets (and the Cardinals too).
by Geo4MVP on Jun 30, 2008 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My first lesson as a Cubs fan
hate the mets.
the second: always be aware and have hatred for the cardinals.
:-)
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am just 21 years old
I know the Mets have screwed the Cubs in 2004, but I really don’t dislike the Mets. Actually, I dislike the Cardinals and Astros :)
by Geo4MVP on Jun 30, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm only 23
my grandaddy taught me how to be a fan. and those were his first lessons.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...most Cubs fans in their 40s would tell me they hate the Mets
But, from my past experience, I have learned to loathe the Cardinals and Astros. Sometimes I hate the Reds because sometimes they are too pesky!
by Geo4MVP on Jun 30, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in my 50's.
Believe me, I hate the Mets.
But the Cardinals are right up there, too.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 30, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol! Good lessons! :)
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he would be having a ball with this season
i miss him like crazy
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
awww, I'm so sorry!
I think about my grandpa sometimes that way too, he would have loved this season. He saw some great things, but never saw them win the series.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he passed the week before i graduated
HS in 2003.
He’s around… I just wish I could hear him grumble about the Cubs b/c I know he is.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't worry - he is
there’s a whole bunch of grandmas and grandpas, aunts and uncles, moms and dads. up there somewhere absolutely having the time of their [after]lives watching over and enjoying this Cubs season.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
especially Steve Goodman :D
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
by Emelie on Jun 30, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My dad was
a huge Cub fan and I know he’s up there watching them this season.
by sue369 on Jun 30, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Partly Cloudy
Looks like it should be even nicer than that. I live about 2 miles from AT&T Park and I can’t see a cloud in the sky right now. Should be a pretty nice night from my spot in Section 121 to watch us light up Zito.
by dbaltman on Jun 30, 2008 7:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So. Jealous!!!
Gorgeous park!!! It’s a nice area. :) You’ll have to post pics!
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I concur!
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on Jun 30, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm looking forward to it
I just moved out here and this will be my first game there. My girlfriend got me the tickets when we knew we were moving out here since it out mean I couldn’t drag her to Wrigley very often.
Anyone know of any good bars near the ballpark to grab a beer and or dinner before or afterwards?
by dbaltman on Jun 30, 2008 7:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That comment
Should have been a response to the above.
by dbaltman on Jun 30, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't, but I have a friend in SF who should still be at work, one sec, I'll ask. :)
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you driving to the game?
and how upscale/low-high key do you want? ;)
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Taking the train
Don’t really have a preference on how swanky the place is. Any sort of bar similar to the ones around Wrigleyville would be great. That being said, I’m sure my girlfriend wouldn’t complain if the place was a little nicer. Nothing too high key though.
Just re-read that paragraph. If any of that makes sense, you are a genius.
by dbaltman on Jun 30, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he says go here:
http://www.brickhousesf.com/ and that given your preferences it’s pretty clutch. :)
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One more thing
he says don’t talk too much shit immediately around the stadium when the cubs win…the fans/area can be sketchy. He’s seen it in person. :P
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's a hell of a hater though
so he prob gets in more trouble than most. :P
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't imagine people getting too worked up over things around here
I think its the weather. Its just consistently too good to get to upset (I say this having just moved from Indiana), but thanks for the heads up.
Off to the park!
by dbaltman on Jun 30, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how dissapointing
is this mets team
I hear Tony La Russa may bat the Pitcher spot cleanup
by jds2 on Jun 30, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
man John Maine sucks
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
by DC Cubbie on Jun 30, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No he doesn't
I am sure the Cubs would love to have John Maine. Look at his ERA, WHIP, and K/BB ratio. He is not a bad SP and would be a solid number 2-3 option for any team.
by Geo4MVP on Jun 30, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take him in a heartbeat
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His numbers for this year are on track to equal
last year’s and he has given up less HR’s.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah and SP is not the Mets problem
Their bullpen and hitting has been inconsistent all year long. If Minaya does not acquire a reliable RP and OF, the Mets will lose the division to the Phillies.
by Geo4MVP on Jun 30, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea a hit
one more and the mets hits = their errors
I hear Tony La Russa may bat the Pitcher spot cleanup
by jds2 on Jun 30, 2008 7:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Minaya was a fool for signing Castillo and he should have gone after an OF in the offseason
Delgado is aging, their OF sucks (besides Beltran), and their pen has been very shaky.
by Geo4MVP on Jun 30, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Castillo move was a blunder...
...but was not in fact one of the five biggest mistakes of the Mets’ last offseason. Met 2Bmen are outhitting Met LFers. (Granted, Damien Easley is helping out with that.)
by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: the HR's still raining in Chicago
Thome, 3 run jack in the bottom of the first.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We should all root for the Sox to sweep the Tribe.
If they do, Cleveland will be 12.5 games out of first place and definitely sellers on Sabathia.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 30, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, but I still don't know that we can afford it, and I don't want CC with the brew crew...
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man this sucks
Two late night games in a row! Oh well…
by GoCubbies34 on Jun 30, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
From an Oakland A's/Cubbies fan from the SF Bay Area
Hope the cubbies smash the hell out of the Giants this series—particularly the fireworks game on 7/2
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Jun 30, 2008 7:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
7 - 1 St. Louis
Wow the Mets look pathetic
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Thats deep to left.....back back back HEY HEY!!! he did it attaboy Jimmy!!!!! woooooooo!!! tie game!! Thats for you Jack" Len Kasper 6/12/08
by Galvan316 on Jun 30, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They look SO bad. :(
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
something about the mets being awful takes the sting out t of the cards winning.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lineups (6.30.08)
Fukudome
Theriot
Lee
Soto
DeRosa
Edmonds
Murton
Cedeno
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
by Unique on Jun 30, 2008 8:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
de ro @ 3rd?
cedeno 2 and theriot short?
by cubbiefanTN on Jun 30, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arrrrggg
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeRo must be dizzy
from being spun around the field so often. No wonder he went in the wrong direction and got doubled off last night.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he really is one of the most
underrated players, because of his ability to do this, but why not stretch Cedeno out at third a bit???
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait,
You mean…
You want Lou to make the “utility infielders to move around and be utile? Certainly you jest! When you can throw your starting 2B around the field like a paper airplane, why would you ask your utility players to learn to play other positions??? Please, you certainly cannot be implying that Ronny should learn 3B, can you?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my mistake.
:P
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cedeno has played third, second, short, and center.
by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't he play LF at least as well as DeRo?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a better question.
Can’t Matt Murton play left field at least as well as Matt Murton?
by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, of course he can.
Too bad no one else notices.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 30, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This season?
Or are you talking overall positions he has played?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh.
I just didn’t remember him every being in the OF. Everyone on the IF yeah, but I must’ve spaced that part out.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, now we know how many Cubs starters have to be unavailable...
...for Murton to play against a lefty.
by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And why are they still batting Lilly ninth?
by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trying to boost Murton's confidence???
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trying to motivate
Reed to come back?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
Confidence boosts are reserved for LSU players!
by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't love that lineup
But it’s the best we got I guess. FYI, Fukudome’s OPS against lefties is like .002.
by AceCubbie on Jun 30, 2008 8:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Completely OT
but has anyone seen the horribly lame widgets the Trib’s put online?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Those are absurdly bad.
Seriously, bad.
by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just had to point 'em out
Wow. They’re awful.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, no kidding.
That’s the best a major newspaper can do? No wonder they’re in trouble.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 30, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best part, for me...
...was that they were “widgets.” Which are supposed to provide some sort of interactive or updating content. Not just an image.
by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone at the Tribune must have heard a tech guy talk about "widgets"
and thought that was a trendy cool thing to have.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 30, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad they don't say
FAIL on them. B/C that is a total fail.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then they went to implement them.
And I’m sure at some point it was suggested to provide Cubs headlines. And some suit said, “But that would keep people away from our website! They should have to come to our site for our headlines!”
Yep.
by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only one I remotely like is Marmol's.
As an image, not a widget.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on Jun 30, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I have to say,
is that Derrek Lee better step up today. He was our leader even without Aramis and Soriano. He is most definate our leader now.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
by Unique on Jun 30, 2008 8:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
him and everyone else… we need major production from everyone to get us moving again.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is ARam wife in DR not in the states w/ him?
Ron just said he headed back for the birth of his baby
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering that too.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True but if I was married..... I think I'd want to live the half of year w/ my hubby
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus if the kid is born in the USA...
he/she would be both a Dominican and a US citizen. I know a lot of Dominicans who would love to have that choice and a few who actually do. It’s curious that this couple didn’t.
by Fraggin Judge on Jun 30, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The DR offers duel citizenship?
I don’t know much about immigration law.
Wills I could bore you to death on, but immigration is very fuzzy to me.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, the offspring of Dominicans born above is a DR citizen.
Same as in the USA: Offspring of Americans born abroad is a US citizen.
It’s not about dual citizenship to the country involved, because they only care about their own nationality, but for the child involved, is a great convenience to have both citizenships.
by Fraggin Judge on Jun 30, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Judge.
:-)
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus im sure being married to a ball player she would get a damn lot better medical coverage than I would get
not sure how good DR health care system is but im assuming it’s not as good as being married to a pro ball player
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assume she's getting the best medical care available in the DR.
But that’s not better than what she would get in Chicago; only cheaper. But I assume that for RamÃrez, money is no problem.
by Fraggin Judge on Jun 30, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate these late night games..... leaves me way too much time to ponder these things
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, she probably has lots of family in DR
so given her condition, it might have been more attractive to be amongst family and where she grew up than here in a city where she may not have as strong of a support system, and with her husband out of town half the time.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I was thinking the same thing.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He still lives in the Dominican in the offseason himself.
He’s far from the only ballplayer who lives like that. Z’s family is in Venezuela.
by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Z's family
came to the states. I know he likes to train in Venezuela, but I thought the wife and kids had come up here.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They lived here last
last year with him. I remember after his altercation with Barrett he said when he got home his daughter asked him why he hit Barrett. He said the look on her face made him realize he shouldn’t have done it.
by sue369 on Jun 30, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay
I thought thats what i remembered.
Thanks sue.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
720 am having Lou's pre game press conference
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
or part of it anyways
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
talking about how it was a bad time for ARAM to need time off.. but these things cant be planned
also talked about getting thrown out. how he thought it was early so he decided to get his money worth outta it.
he is happy interlegue is over, it’s a lil much. but he is sure NYC or LA feel the same way
Johnson will be on Thursday
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks a bunch, Madison.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not a problem.
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks, madison!
i for one can’t wait for reed to come back. i love that guy.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too. Also I think than maybe Jedmons might get a chance to rest a bit
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah the old guy
needs some time off. to let that foot heal.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a big fan of DeRo hitting #5
He always tries to do too much. He’s much better batting #2, because he can just concentrate on getting on base. He’s actually a pretty good leadoff hitter, except for the SBs. Wonder if Lou would consider batting him #1 against LHP and Dome #2?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he also talked about how the pitching hasnt been good
In a short period of time he think Marshall will be a good starting pitcher. he just has to work on keeping his pitches down some
Interlegue teams were good teams. TB has the best record in baseball, white sox have a good ball club. good starters deep bullpen, some power.. they are HR hitting team.
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah the sox have the best EVER EVER bullpen
by GoCubbies34 on Jun 30, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im just repeating what lou said........ dont shoot the messanger
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeRo is only 6-26 vs. Lilly,
but two have left the yard, and one was a single that broke up a no-hit bid in the 7th or 8th inning.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
vs. Lily?
Lilly is on our team
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, vs. Zito
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought thats what you meant
but wasn’t sure…
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's
REALLY PISSED about batting ninth.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
Lilly always looks pissed.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whew... I was getting worried there
Thought we made a last minute trade
by GoCubbies34 on Jun 30, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL..That was funny..but I would take Lilly and his contract any day of the year over Zito and his
monstrous contract
by cubsnlinux on Jun 30, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are the Cubs not putting Ramy on the bereavement list?
He’s going to miss the minimum 3 games. I’d even settle for calling up Fuld, just in case the game is a blowout and Lou could get Edmonds a few innings off.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't the bereavement list
only for death/serious illness in the family?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's funny how it works.
Due to the way the rules are phrased, surgical procedures are included. So if his wife was having a C-section, he could be on the bereavement list. But not if she delivers the baby naturally.
by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
God, just when I think i have a handle
on the rule book.
I’m glad you’re around, Cwyers. :-)
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I concur
I love how much on this site
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it can be used for any "family issue".
It’s MLB’s way of handling the Federal family leave law—childbirth would qualify.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuld at third?
(jk)
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your lucky this is online... people would be throwing htings at you
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curse of being left-handed.
Has to play the outfield.
by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My sister and brother in law
were out at the college world series (they live in omaha) and they saw a left handed CATCHER.
never seen one of those before
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's rare...
...due to the fact that it means right-handed batters are blocking your throw over to second base. It’s harder to control the running game that way.
by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm left-handed and I played third...
...in Little League. Played second too – man, talk about your awkward double play pivots. Not that we ever really turned any, but at least we practiced it.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's possible to be a LH third baseman up through high school...
...and maybe college. You can’t pull it off in the majors, though.
by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about catchers?
Hasn’t there been a few in the majors?
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
More than I thought.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lou is telling Santo..
He wasn’t arguing balls and strikes, he was arguing the checked swing….hmmm..I think that’s the same thing Lou.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 8:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
actually
I’m not entirely sure it is. I mean, it sort of is, but it’s sort of not.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing.
It’s an interesting distinction. I love Lou!
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lou is great
:-)
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
Lou was arguing the fact that the Ump was a dumbass
by GoCubbies34 on Jun 30, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone else just lose Gameday Audio?
This is the fourth day in a row it has gone down during the Lou Piniella show for me.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe you should change it up and stop listening for lou
considering we’ve lost the last 4….
:-P
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol. I take it I'm not the only one randomly changing statuses and things...
you know, just in case.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am going to drop off the thread
and play CoH while I listen to Pat and Ron. We’ll see what happens.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who me?
Nah, what gives you that idea…
:-P
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give the Cardinals their props
Hey, they’re a good ballclub. Tony LaRussa is doing an outstanding job coaxing the maximum out of rag tag collection of players. All I know is that Ryan Ludwig and Rick Ankiel are good ballplayers. And so is Adam Wainwright and Braden Looper. Any team with the best player in baseball in the everyday lineup, that being Albert Pujols, is a team to be reckoned with. Lets not forget this is a franchise that has won 10 World Series championships too.
Yes, the Cardinals and the Brewers make me nervous.
Pitching is KING. We don't add a frontline starting pitcher and a quality bullpen arm then this season will have yet another sad conclusion.
by MDBNIU on Jun 30, 2008 9:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you're not a Cardinals fan
why, exactly?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he prolly secretly is
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever...
The morons are out in full force
Pitching is KING. We don't add a frontline starting pitcher and a quality bullpen arm then this season will have yet another sad conclusion.
by MDBNIU on Jun 30, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed they are,
indeed they are.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about
moronS… but i do know ONE who’s made an appearance
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Burn
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He never has anything good to say about the Cubs
but praises the Cardinals to the heavens.
Maybe he’s on the wrong board.
Yikes.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My question is what makes Alex Rodriquez not the best player in baseball
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jun 30, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its too early to be nervous
and scoreboard watch.
focus on the cubs.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody else realize that MDBNIU has praised more Cardinals in one post
Than he has praised Cubs all year?
Just saying…
by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just realized that XM = 2nd consecutive night of Jon Miller
At least no Morgan. And there is an upside to Aramees Rameerez being out of the lineup
by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cocknfire told a buddy about your sayings. he laughed pretty damn hard
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we were discussing beer
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least it was relevant
That would be kind of odd coming out of nowhere
by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his platform?
the great taste, thing?
how’s it go again?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
bills a brewers fan and we were discussing over supper tonight. so yeah it fit in well. he was amused
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thusly
Negative Nellies: Less filling
Holier-Than-Thou: Great taste
Immature Clowns: Who the h#ll cares? It’s beer!
by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no I don't drink.
so i had a couple glasses of water.
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
:-)
hopefully the game will go well and we won’t need to post that again, huh?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
www.awfulannouncing.com
I hadn’t seen this anywhere, so I figured I’d throw it up. If you’ve already seen this, please accept my sincerest apologies. Here is ESPN’s Sunday Night Baseball schedule for the first 4 months of the MLB Season. Joe and Jon are back and these are the games they’ll be butcherin
So its just not us cub fans
I've been bleeding double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers
by parrotinct on Jun 30, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chicago Cubs Baseball Is On The Air!
I love it when Pat Hughes says that..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lou blasting the umps
In the pregame conference
by roscoevillage on Jun 30, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he's fiesty
feisty? which is it?
any one, lou is all fired up it appears.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for me or lou?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking Lou
Why, are you feisty?
by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet your feisty
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
girl
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'd be surprised how often
I get that
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
takes one to know one
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got a day off today...
... and I got live feed today on my satellite channel…
BTW I got a Barry Zito T-shirts, a gift from my close SF friend who don’t know I hate Giants (do not like SF Giants either)...
The T-shirts is 3 years old and still has tags… what should I do with it?
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Jun 30, 2008 9:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sell it on EBay?
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody in SF is bound to overpay for it
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jun 30, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Given the way he's performed, I really doubt that.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on Jun 30, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
EBays is not here....
Now I should burn it by Dome’s next at bat? ;-)
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Jun 30, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, yes do that. It will bring the whole team luck
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jun 30, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who wants a Barry Zito jersey?
“Look at me! I’m a free agent pitcher that can’t throw strikes!”
by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zito (jersey) - LIGHT EM UP!
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
word..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i been in LA for the last couple of days
we are 1-5 since then. i need to get back home. also i cant watch it here! what gives!
by xene on Jun 30, 2008 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is the first pitch thread up yet?
I’m not seeing it.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Where's the first pitch thread?
Dome strikes out..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought the
new thread was suppose to be at 9:15?
by sue369 on Jun 30, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Theriot walks..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lee walks
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that's what I thought too..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2 walks in a row for zito
Me likes. :) Let’s do something with it!
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Al... you still with us
theres a problem with the first pitch thread!
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Soto flys out..
2 on 2 out
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, the new Gameday is...wierd.
Did he just say funky butt-loving?
by Louie on Jun 30, 2008 9:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, looks like the old paint-by-numbers.
"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse
by Goodie1969 on Jun 30, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you hover your mouse over the
pitch part of the set up you’ll see options in the L corner. If you click on it, you can go to 3d light… which is less awful.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's go DeRo!
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 9:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DeRo
takes strike 3….3 out
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
RISP
I've been bleeding double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers
by parrotinct on Jun 30, 2008 9:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it common knowledge...
...that Ramirez was going home for the birth of a baby?
"I'm petrified of nipple chafing. Once it starts, it's a vicious circle." Andy Bernard
by TXCub on Jun 30, 2008 9:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Are we sure it's not just the cockfighting tourney or something?
by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This coming from the guy with "cock" in his name...
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by dtpollitt on Jun 30, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats what they're saying
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ron mentioned
it tonight so I guess it is.
by sue369 on Jun 30, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well I hope it's common knowledge for him and her...
...or there’s gonna be some ‘splaining to do
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, honey, you see...
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HELLO EVERYBODY
HAVE NO FEAR
I AM HERE
JUST GOT OUTTA CLASS
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jun 30, 2008 9:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
again with the yelling!
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sensory overload...
Watching the Cubs on tv, Pat & Ron on the radio, Sox/Indians on GameDay Audio, and BCB.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2008 9:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
theres multitasking
and then theres what you’re doing… pick something!
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did - laundry!!!
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yesterday I whipped out my 1998 Sosa jersey, trying to break the streak...
...and that shit didn’t work…so I bought this today.
Hopefully it works!!
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jun 30, 2008 9:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It is on the back right now, leading this team to victory
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jun 30, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good to know.
If we win tonight you have to wear it every game from now on.
by sue369 on Jun 30, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'D BE PISSED
if I paid for seats directly behind home plate and I had to squint through a dirty Plexiglass window the whole time.
Wouldn’t you think they’d correct that?
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"
by lostinthevines on Jun 30, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I got a Cubs jersey but no lettering on the back.
Went and got it embroider today. Although the guy told me he was a Cards fan.
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Embroidered with...?
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"
by lostinthevines on Jun 30, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soto name and number
Even if he is a huge Cards fan he did a good job
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one who wishes we'd at least drop the lettering from the pinstripe jerseys?
by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mines actually the ones they wear when Z pitches.
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really liked the ones without names.
That way you can buy a jersey with your favorite number on it (say…..just for example…...7…...) and never have to worry if the guy gets traded, released, sucks, etc. I meant to get a “Todd Walker” jersey when the names weren’t on the backs, but couldn’t afford it.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on Jun 30, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been tempted to get the same
but I’m sticking with my policy of not getting any jerseys done with active players’ names and numbers – nobody sticks around anymore. My Sandberg, Sutcliffe and Grace jerseys always get a look or two
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"
by lostinthevines on Jun 30, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Z and Sori are going to be around for a while ... prolly Lee, too
ARam, I hope, but his agent isn’t exactly the loyal type
by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My kid has a Soriano jersey
‘cuz he wears #12 too (thopugh he catches). Lee will fall in that category some day, too, but not sure about A-Ram.
Glad to see that I’m not the only one that doesn’t get the warm-fuzzy from him (not that I need it, mind you, but you’re right – he doesn’t have the same je ne sais quois that Lee, DeRosa, et al have).
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"
by lostinthevines on Jun 30, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
c'mon
there is no reason to be walking anyone in this pathetic lineup
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
by DC Cubbie on Jun 30, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice to have Theriot back
Pitching is KING. We don't add a frontline starting pitcher and a quality bullpen arm then this season will have yet another sad conclusion.
by MDBNIU on Jun 30, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
False.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on Jun 30, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Granted
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's that
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"
by lostinthevines on Jun 30, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DP
2 down
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by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice job cubbies!
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So Al going "old school"
on the game thread?
Or is he just playing hard to get?
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on Jun 30, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's what I think
and he’s probably in bed by now. Maybe the 10:15 one will appear.
by sue369 on Jun 30, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As they say in LA...
our people will contact his people and we’ll try to make it happen.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on Jun 30, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me
he isn’t good with these late games :D
by GoCubbies34 on Jun 30, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my vote is fell asleep
:P
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's wait til 945 then post a new one?
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jun 30, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah 945 I'll put new one up and link to it...
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jun 30, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did it
and then dunked it into trash can….
Sorry my friend in SF….
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Jun 30, 2008 9:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OH MY GOD
DID YOU REALLY JUST DO THAT??
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jun 30, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just did it
Hope it turn to be a good charm, not curse….
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on Jun 30, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that called "popping a Zito?"
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on Jun 30, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AL - YOU NEED TO DISCUSS THIS IN TTHE RECAP
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jun 30, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AWESOME!!!!!!
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jun 30, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What did you do? Picture (or link) not showing up for me...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
never mind, I can see it in the new thread. very cool.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NEW THREAD
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jun 30, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Al's thread, too, not my own...
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jun 30, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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