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Pregame Thread: Cubs vs. Giants, Monday 6/30, 9:15 CT

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Chicago Cubs
@ San Francisco Giants

Monday, Jun 30, 2008, 9:15 PM CDT
AT&T Park

Ted Lilly vs Barry Zito

Partly cloudy. Winds blowing out to center field at 10-15 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Near 60.

Complete Coverage >

"Partly cloudy". Thank heavens. At least the Cubs won't be dodging raindrops, as they have for most of the last ten days.

Now, a little perspective. We are one game into the second half, a loss (the Cubs also lost the first game of the season and three of the first four, for a little more perspective). Let's say I had told you, after that Opening Day loss, that:

  • Alfonso Soriano was going to suffer two major injuries and would miss more than 30 games;
  • Only Carlos Zambrano and Ryan Dempster would be consistent starters;
  • Derrek Lee would be leading the majors in GIDP;
  • And, the Cubs were going to unceremoniously dump one of their top prospects, Felix Pie, and replace him with a detested arch-rival who had hit .178 for another team before being unconditionally released.

Why, you'd probably have said the Cubs would be floundering around in third or fourth place, right? Of course, I'm cherry-picking stats to make a point, which is that most everything has actually gone right with the Cubs so far this year; they maintain a 2.5 game lead despite losing eight of their last twelve games. For some historical perspective on recent World Champions, see cocknfire's FanPost on the topic.

That said, this team has struggled on the road. A winning road trip -- even 4-3 -- would go a long way toward steadying the ship until the banged-up can return.

Today's Starting Pitchers
Ted Lilly
T. Lilly
Cubs		 vs. Barry Zito
B. Zito
Giants
8-5 W-L 3-11
4.74 ERA 5.91
95 SO 44
36 BB 48
18 HR 8
vs. SF -- vs. Cubs
W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Ted Lilly 8-5 17 17 0 0 0 0 98.2 94 55 52 18 36 95 4.74 1.32
W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Barry Zito 3-11 16 16 0 0 0 0 80.2 99 60 53 8 48 44 5.91 1.82

Barry Zito has had a horrendous year. There's no sugarcoating it, and the 3-11, 5.91 numbers are well-deserved -- note that he really doesn't strike out people any more, having walked more than he's K'd. He's been good against the Cubs in his career, and was 1-1, 1.80 in two starts vs. the Cubs last year, but that was then and this is now. The walk totals should be good for the patient Cubs; if they can wait him out they should score. Derrek Lee is 5-for-8 with a HR lifetime against Zito, who may be among the worst free-agent signings ever.

Ted Lilly, after a poor start, is 7-1, 3.97 in his last 11 starts, with 23 BB and 70 K in 68 innings; this is in line with what he did last year, though the 14 HR in those 11 starts is a bit alarming. He's pitching in a good pitcher's park tonight; he's got a 6.08 ERA lifetime vs. the Giants, but most of that was in 2003 or earlier, when he was with Oakland and the Yankees. Last year, he was the winning pitcher in a 9-8 Cubs win at Wrigley Field. Of the current Giants, Aaron Rowand hits him the hardest (.375/.444/.563, 6-for-16, 1 HR).

Today's game is on CSN Plus -- CLTV in Chicago, which is also channel 174 on Comcast (in the city, at least) for the HD telecast. Otherwise it's EI or the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)

Baseball-reference.com game preview

Today's first pitch thread will post just about the exact time of the scheduled first pitch -- 9:15 pm CT. The overflow comment threads will post at 10:15 pm and 11:15 pm CT, for you night owls (I have to go to sleep for work and won't see much of this game).

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Cubbies!

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Jun 30, 2008 6:05 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Go Cubs!

I hate these west coast games.. Pull them thru gang…..

by LT on Jun 30, 2008 6:06 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Some thoughts on Zito

I’ve been following Zito for a while now—I was a big fan of him when he was with the A’s, and I’ve been watching some of his last few starts to see just what happened to his once-Cy Young-caliber pitching ability.

You’re right for the most part Al - Zito has been dreadful for many, many starts this year, but lately he’s been turning it around. Since being demoted to the bullpen he’s gone something like 3-5, and his last start (in Cleveland) he looked really, really good - 6 1/3 IP with just 1 ER after Yabu gave up an inherited runner.

Apparently, this was due to a lower arm slot, which noticeably increased his velocity with a 2-seamer while keeping a sharp 12-6 curve relatively intact.

He’s got a lot of confidence going into today, and he always enjoys pitching against the Cubs. Don’t be surprised if this one turns out to be a tough game.

"And heeeere cooome the pretzels!"

by NightPutting on Jun 30, 2008 6:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're right.

His last start was his first all year where he didn’t walk anyone. Maybe that’s what the new arm slot did. Hope the Cubs have a good scouting report.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 30, 2008 6:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Zito

16 starts, only 80 innings. Lilly 17 starts, 98 innings. Wow, thats a difference I wasn’t expecting.

Lets go boys, go get ‘im!

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 6:23 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess I really lucked out

I’m a geek on 2 subjects. The Cubs and Star Wars specifically and science fiction and comic books in general.

Last weekend was Wizard World so I missed the majority of the 3 games indulging my inner geek. Maybe it’s my fault but I’m lucky I missed them.

Did hear of a few Ryan Dempster sightings though on Sunday. I know he’s a comic geek.

On a note on that. The Clone Wars is going to be freaking awesome dudes!

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 30, 2008 6:27 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

St Louis hacks up 2-0 after 1

They are winning at least 90 this year

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on Jun 30, 2008 6:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they'll fall.

I guarantee it.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 6:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I haven't seen anything to suggest that.

Even when Pujols went down their hack lineup still scored runs pretty easily.

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on Jun 30, 2008 6:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they're just not going to last.

they’re gonna trip up.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 7:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Concurs...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 30, 2008 6:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think so. Whenever I listen to this team I am sort of shocked with how consistently they get it done

even when they shouldn’t. We’re going to need to stay on top of this thing to win it.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 6:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They always do

Except, I mean, for all those division and world series titles

by Mapmaker on Jun 30, 2008 6:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Care to make it interesting $20 to Project 3000 says you're wrong

Witness?

[repeating my response from previous thread since CubsBall repeated his/her declaration from previous thread]

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2008 6:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Witnessed.

And I’ll put $20 to Project 3000 if they DON’T. Plus I’ll put another $20 to Project 3000 if we’re not 8 games up by August. Middle of August. August 15th.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 7:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

witnessed.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 7:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Some bad news

I’ve been watching the Cardinals quite a bit on MLB TV and they’re a pretty good team. Already up 2-0 tonight. I don’t think they’re going away anytime soon.

by Mapmaker on Jun 30, 2008 6:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They will be there all year long

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on Jun 30, 2008 6:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cardinals

I think they’re better than most think but despite our awful 2 weeks they managed to gain 1 game.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 30, 2008 6:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, but they were without Pujols and still hung with us enough to gain.

I think the 2nd half is going to be a tough struggle to stay ahead of them.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 6:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

sigh

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jun 30, 2008 6:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Your sigh says it all

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 6:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wonder if Cards fans

are as obsessive about the Cubs as some Cubs fans are about the Cardinals.

Who cares what the Cardinals do? If the Cubs take care of business, it’s no big deal.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2008 6:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, they're announcers are talking about us now. :P

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 6:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

their. yikes.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 6:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is totally in their hands, I agree

but I don’t know where the obsessive comment came from. just simply discussing the team that is chasing us and gaining on us.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 6:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As if they're the second coming of the '27 Yankees

The Cardinals do not frighten me. And they’re right where they’ve been for most of the season, standings-wise.

Once they get inside your head, you’re dead.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2008 6:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't belive for a second that anyone on this blog thinks

they are the 2nd coming of the ‘27 Yanks, but we are surprised that they are in 2nd place and have been there all season. I think the consensus prior to the season was they wouldn’t even have a sniff at the top spot. All the comments are simply stating that they are going to be right there with us, in our opinions. No one has said they feel the Cards will win the wild card, much less the division.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 6:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fair enough

But if the Cards win tonight and the Cubs lose, I fear the bed-wetting will begin around here.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2008 6:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

begin?

you mean… it could get worse? yuck.

ledge jumpers… so predictable.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 6:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

gah!

+1000 I had to leave the game thread last night it was so aggravating.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 6:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sure it will. Some of it started Friday.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 6:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Should have added "in earnest"

Can’t stand the Cardinals. I respect them, but I’ll take Satchel Paige’s advice and not look over my shoulder.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2008 7:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I as well, but it's hard for me to not look in the rearview mirror LOL

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 7:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As long as that view is one game ahead at the end of game 162

i’m ok with it!

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 7:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Cardinals SP is the main reason why the are in 2nd place

My God, their SP is full of scrubs except Wainwright. Their SP will not keep up their current performance once August sets in.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 30, 2008 7:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and their defense

they don’t give outs away.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 7:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And their bullpen

Meh…I think SP will be their main downfall.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 30, 2008 7:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I posted yesterday that the Cubs would win the division

but until the magic number eventually falls to 0, there will always be angst with me.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 7:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think most if not all of us feel that way.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 30, 2008 8:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm hardly obsessive

Just keeping an eye out on our competition

by Mapmaker on Jun 30, 2008 6:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's how I feel about it

and if their game is on when I’m not doing something else, I’ll definitely keep an eye on it and if people are commenting here, I’ll comment here as well.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 6:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they're a sneaky bunch

and… 3-0

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jun 30, 2008 6:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, the Mets handed them that last run. Wow.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 6:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think likely are

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 7:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 6:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Game on DirecTV

Is on Ch. 668-1 in HD and 668 in SD.

by chilango2 on Jun 30, 2008 6:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dang

I just realized I’m going to have to listen to Kup and Krukow rather than Len and Bob.

Still, those two aren’t bad and at least Krukow’s an ex-Cub of my youth.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh77 on Jun 30, 2008 6:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is that Kup as in Duane Kuiper?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2008 6:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's not Kup...

This is Kup.

Duane Kuiper is Kuip>

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 30, 2008 8:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Game on Dish network

channel 450 in SD to begin, then channel 429 in HD (JIP) after end of White Sox game

"Yeeaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssssssssss!"
"Oh boy Patrick..."
"Because of that Home Run, Walgreens JD....donate...kids...to the needy fund...boy I'm just a little worked up." - Ron Santo

by IvyOnTheWall on Jun 30, 2008 6:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As are the Indians

or are the Socks this good?

Yes, Socks – just because the founding fathers of that organization had to dumb it down so their fans could spell it doesn’t mean I have to participate

"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"

by lostinthevines on Jun 30, 2008 9:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Mets are really, really bad

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on Jun 30, 2008 6:52 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate when the Mets play the Cards

why can’t both teams lose?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 6:54 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1 :)

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 6:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha...I bet Ron Santo would love that

My God, HE absolutely HATES the Mets (and the Cardinals too).

by Geo4MVP on Jun 30, 2008 6:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My first lesson as a Cubs fan

hate the mets.

the second: always be aware and have hatred for the cardinals.

:-)

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 6:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am just 21 years old

I know the Mets have screwed the Cubs in 2004, but I really don’t dislike the Mets. Actually, I dislike the Cardinals and Astros :)

by Geo4MVP on Jun 30, 2008 7:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm only 23

my grandaddy taught me how to be a fan. and those were his first lessons.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 7:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah...most Cubs fans in their 40s would tell me they hate the Mets

But, from my past experience, I have learned to loathe the Cardinals and Astros. Sometimes I hate the Reds because sometimes they are too pesky!

by Geo4MVP on Jun 30, 2008 7:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm in my 50's.

Believe me, I hate the Mets.

But the Cardinals are right up there, too.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 30, 2008 8:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol! Good lessons! :)

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 7:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he would be having a ball with this season

i miss him like crazy

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 7:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

awww, I'm so sorry!

I think about my grandpa sometimes that way too, he would have loved this season. He saw some great things, but never saw them win the series.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 7:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he passed the week before i graduated

HS in 2003.

He’s around… I just wish I could hear him grumble about the Cubs b/c I know he is.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

don't worry - he is

there’s a whole bunch of grandmas and grandpas, aunts and uncles, moms and dads. up there somewhere absolutely having the time of their [after]lives watching over and enjoying this Cubs season.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2008 7:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

especially Steve Goodman :D

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jun 30, 2008 7:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

:)

Word!

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 7:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My dad was

a huge Cub fan and I know he’s up there watching them this season.

by sue369 on Jun 30, 2008 8:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Partly Cloudy

Looks like it should be even nicer than that. I live about 2 miles from AT&T Park and I can’t see a cloud in the sky right now. Should be a pretty nice night from my spot in Section 121 to watch us light up Zito.

by dbaltman on Jun 30, 2008 7:05 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So. Jealous!!!

Gorgeous park!!! It’s a nice area. :) You’ll have to post pics!

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 7:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I concur!

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 30, 2008 9:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm looking forward to it

I just moved out here and this will be my first game there. My girlfriend got me the tickets when we knew we were moving out here since it out mean I couldn’t drag her to Wrigley very often.

Anyone know of any good bars near the ballpark to grab a beer and or dinner before or afterwards?

by dbaltman on Jun 30, 2008 7:10 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That comment

Should have been a response to the above.

by dbaltman on Jun 30, 2008 7:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

are you driving to the game?

and how upscale/low-high key do you want? ;)

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 7:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Taking the train

Don’t really have a preference on how swanky the place is. Any sort of bar similar to the ones around Wrigleyville would be great. That being said, I’m sure my girlfriend wouldn’t complain if the place was a little nicer. Nothing too high key though.

Just re-read that paragraph. If any of that makes sense, you are a genius.

by dbaltman on Jun 30, 2008 7:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he says go here:

http://www.brickhousesf.com/ and that given your preferences it’s pretty clutch. :)

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 7:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One more thing

he says don’t talk too much shit immediately around the stadium when the cubs win…the fans/area can be sketchy. He’s seen it in person. :P

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 7:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's a hell of a hater though

so he prob gets in more trouble than most. :P

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 7:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't imagine people getting too worked up over things around here

I think its the weather. Its just consistently too good to get to upset (I say this having just moved from Indiana), but thanks for the heads up.

Off to the park!

by dbaltman on Jun 30, 2008 7:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how dissapointing

is this mets team

I hear Tony La Russa may bat the Pitcher spot cleanup

by jds2 on Jun 30, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

7-1 cards

this sucks

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jun 30, 2008 7:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

man John Maine sucks

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on Jun 30, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No he doesn't

I am sure the Cubs would love to have John Maine. Look at his ERA, WHIP, and K/BB ratio. He is not a bad SP and would be a solid number 2-3 option for any team.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 30, 2008 7:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

I hear Tony La Russa may bat the Pitcher spot cleanup

by jds2 on Jun 30, 2008 7:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd take him in a heartbeat

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 7:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His numbers for this year are on track to equal

last year’s and he has given up less HR’s.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 7:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah and SP is not the Mets problem

Their bullpen and hitting has been inconsistent all year long. If Minaya does not acquire a reliable RP and OF, the Mets will lose the division to the Phillies.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 30, 2008 7:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yea a hit

one more and the mets hits = their errors

I hear Tony La Russa may bat the Pitcher spot cleanup

by jds2 on Jun 30, 2008 7:18 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Minaya was a fool for signing Castillo and he should have gone after an OF in the offseason

Delgado is aging, their OF sucks (besides Beltran), and their pen has been very shaky.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 30, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Castillo move was a blunder...

...but was not in fact one of the five biggest mistakes of the Mets’ last offseason. Met 2Bmen are outhitting Met LFers. (Granted, Damien Easley is helping out with that.)

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by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 7:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OT: the HR's still raining in Chicago

Thome, 3 run jack in the bottom of the first.

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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We should all root for the Sox to sweep the Tribe.

If they do, Cleveland will be 12.5 games out of first place and definitely sellers on Sabathia.

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by Al on Jun 30, 2008 8:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man this sucks

Two late night games in a row! Oh well…

by GoCubbies34 on Jun 30, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 7:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From an Oakland A's/Cubbies fan from the SF Bay Area

Hope the cubbies smash the hell out of the Giants this series—particularly the fireworks game on 7/2

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by oaklandSMASH on Jun 30, 2008 7:51 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

7 - 1 St. Louis

Wow the Mets look pathetic

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by Galvan316 on Jun 30, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They look SO bad. :(

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by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 8:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

heh

something about the mets being awful takes the sting out t of the cards winning.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lineups (6.30.08)

Fukudome
Theriot
Lee
Soto
DeRosa
Edmonds
Murton
Cedeno

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by Unique on Jun 30, 2008 8:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

de ro @ 3rd?

cedeno 2 and theriot short?

by cubbiefanTN on Jun 30, 2008 8:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes sir.

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by Unique on Jun 30, 2008 8:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Arrrrggg

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DeRo must be dizzy

from being spun around the field so often. No wonder he went in the wrong direction and got doubled off last night.

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by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he really is one of the most

underrated players, because of his ability to do this, but why not stretch Cedeno out at third a bit???

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by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 8:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait,

You mean…

You want Lou to make the “utility infielders to move around and be utile? Certainly you jest! When you can throw your starting 2B around the field like a paper airplane, why would you ask your utility players to learn to play other positions??? Please, you certainly cannot be implying that Ronny should learn 3B, can you?

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by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my mistake.

:P

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by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 8:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Couldn't he play LF at least as well as DeRo?

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by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here's a better question.

Can’t Matt Murton play left field at least as well as Matt Murton?

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by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 8:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, of course he can.

Too bad no one else notices.

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by Al on Jun 30, 2008 8:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This season?

Or are you talking overall positions he has played?

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh.

I just didn’t remember him every being in the OF. Everyone on the IF yeah, but I must’ve spaced that part out.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Three.

Right?

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by Al on Jun 30, 2008 8:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trying to boost Murton's confidence???

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by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trying to motivate

Reed to come back?

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

Confidence boosts are reserved for LSU players!

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by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 8:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

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by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 8:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't love that lineup

But it’s the best we got I guess. FYI, Fukudome’s OPS against lefties is like .002.

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by AceCubbie on Jun 30, 2008 8:21 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Completely OT

but has anyone seen the horribly lame widgets the Trib’s put online?

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:23 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just had to point 'em out

Wow. They’re awful.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, no kidding.

That’s the best a major newspaper can do? No wonder they’re in trouble.

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by Al on Jun 30, 2008 8:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The best part, for me...

...was that they were “widgets.” Which are supposed to provide some sort of interactive or updating content. Not just an image.

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by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 8:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Someone at the Tribune must have heard a tech guy talk about "widgets"

and thought that was a trendy cool thing to have.

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by Al on Jun 30, 2008 8:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too bad they don't say

FAIL on them. B/C that is a total fail.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And then they went to implement them.

And I’m sure at some point it was suggested to provide Cubs headlines. And some suit said, “But that would keep people away from our website! They should have to come to our site for our headlines!”

Yep.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 8:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The only one I remotely like is Marmol's.

As an image, not a widget.

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by northsider on Jun 30, 2008 9:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All I have to say,

is that Derrek Lee better step up today. He was our leader even without Aramis and Soriano. He is most definate our leader now.

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by Unique on Jun 30, 2008 8:27 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

him and everyone else… we need major production from everyone to get us moving again.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why is ARam wife in DR not in the states w/ him?

Ron just said he headed back for the birth of his baby

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by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was wondering that too.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True but if I was married..... I think I'd want to live the half of year w/ my hubby

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by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Plus if the kid is born in the USA...

he/she would be both a Dominican and a US citizen. I know a lot of Dominicans who would love to have that choice and a few who actually do. It’s curious that this couple didn’t.

by Fraggin Judge on Jun 30, 2008 8:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The DR offers duel citizenship?

I don’t know much about immigration law.

Wills I could bore you to death on, but immigration is very fuzzy to me.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, the offspring of Dominicans born above is a DR citizen.

Same as in the USA: Offspring of Americans born abroad is a US citizen.

It’s not about dual citizenship to the country involved, because they only care about their own nationality, but for the child involved, is a great convenience to have both citizenships.

by Fraggin Judge on Jun 30, 2008 8:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks, Judge.

:-)

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

plus im sure being married to a ball player she would get a damn lot better medical coverage than I would get

not sure how good DR health care system is but im assuming it’s not as good as being married to a pro ball player

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by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I assume she's getting the best medical care available in the DR.

But that’s not better than what she would get in Chicago; only cheaper. But I assume that for Ramírez, money is no problem.

by Fraggin Judge on Jun 30, 2008 9:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate these late night games..... leaves me way too much time to ponder these things

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by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, she probably has lots of family in DR

so given her condition, it might have been more attractive to be amongst family and where she grew up than here in a city where she may not have as strong of a support system, and with her husband out of town half the time.

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by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2008 9:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

I was thinking the same thing.

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He still lives in the Dominican in the offseason himself.

He’s far from the only ballplayer who lives like that. Z’s family is in Venezuela.

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by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 8:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought Z's family

came to the states. I know he likes to train in Venezuela, but I thought the wife and kids had come up here.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They lived here last

last year with him. I remember after his altercation with Barrett he said when he got home his daughter asked him why he hit Barrett. He said the look on her face made him realize he shouldn’t have done it.

by sue369 on Jun 30, 2008 9:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay

I thought thats what i remembered.

Thanks sue.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

720 am having Lou's pre game press conference

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or part of it anyways

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

talking about how it was a bad time for ARAM to need time off.. but these things cant be planned

also talked about getting thrown out. how he thought it was early so he decided to get his money worth outta it.

he is happy interlegue is over, it’s a lil much. but he is sure NYC or LA feel the same way

Johnson will be on Thursday

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by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks a bunch, Madison.

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by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 8:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not a problem.

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by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks, madison!

i for one can’t wait for reed to come back. i love that guy.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

me too. Also I think than maybe Jedmons might get a chance to rest a bit

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by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah the old guy

needs some time off. to let that foot heal.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not a big fan of DeRo hitting #5

He always tries to do too much. He’s much better batting #2, because he can just concentrate on getting on base. He’s actually a pretty good leadoff hitter, except for the SBs. Wonder if Lou would consider batting him #1 against LHP and Dome #2?

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by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he also talked about how the pitching hasnt been good

In a short period of time he think Marshall will be a good starting pitcher. he just has to work on keeping his pitches down some

Interlegue teams were good teams. TB has the best record in baseball, white sox have a good ball club. good starters deep bullpen, some power.. they are HR hitting team.

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by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DeRo is only 6-26 vs. Lilly,

but two have left the yard, and one was a single that broke up a no-hit bid in the 7th or 8th inning.

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by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

vs. Lily?

Lilly is on our team

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry, vs. Zito

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by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought thats what you meant

but wasn’t sure…

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's

REALLY PISSED about batting ninth.

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by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 8:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha

Lilly always looks pissed.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why are the Cubs not putting Ramy on the bereavement list?

He’s going to miss the minimum 3 games. I’d even settle for calling up Fuld, just in case the game is a blowout and Lou could get Edmonds a few innings off.

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by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Isn't the bereavement list

only for death/serious illness in the family?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's funny how it works.

Due to the way the rules are phrased, surgical procedures are included. So if his wife was having a C-section, he could be on the bereavement list. But not if she delivers the baby naturally.

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by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 8:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

God, just when I think i have a handle

on the rule book.

I’m glad you’re around, Cwyers. :-)

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I concur

I love how much on this site

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by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it can be used for any "family issue".

It’s MLB’s way of handling the Federal family leave law—childbirth would qualify.

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by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fuld at third?

(jk)

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by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 8:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

your lucky this is online... people would be throwing htings at you

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by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 8:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My sister and brother in law

were out at the college world series (they live in omaha) and they saw a left handed CATCHER.

never seen one of those before

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's rare...

...due to the fact that it means right-handed batters are blocking your throw over to second base. It’s harder to control the running game that way.

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by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 8:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm left-handed and I played third...

...in Little League. Played second too – man, talk about your awkward double play pivots. Not that we ever really turned any, but at least we practiced it.

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by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2008 9:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's possible to be a LH third baseman up through high school...

...and maybe college. You can’t pull it off in the majors, though.

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by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 9:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How about catchers?

Hasn’t there been a few in the majors?

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

More than I thought.

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lou is telling Santo..

He wasn’t arguing balls and strikes, he was arguing the checked swing….hmmm..I think that’s the same thing Lou.

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 8:52 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

actually

I’m not entirely sure it is. I mean, it sort of is, but it’s sort of not.

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by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 8:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was thinking the same thing.

It’s an interesting distinction. I love Lou!

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by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 8:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lou is great

:-)

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nah

Lou was arguing the fact that the Ump was a dumbass

by GoCubbies34 on Jun 30, 2008 8:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did anyone else just lose Gameday Audio?

This is the fourth day in a row it has gone down during the Lou Piniella show for me.

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by DeRoMyHero on Jun 30, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe you should change it up and stop listening for lou

considering we’ve lost the last 4….

:-P

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol. I take it I'm not the only one randomly changing statuses and things...

you know, just in case.

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by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 8:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am going to drop off the thread

and play CoH while I listen to Pat and Ron. We’ll see what happens.

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by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 8:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who me?

Nah, what gives you that idea…

:-P

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Give the Cardinals their props

Hey, they’re a good ballclub. Tony LaRussa is doing an outstanding job coaxing the maximum out of rag tag collection of players. All I know is that Ryan Ludwig and Rick Ankiel are good ballplayers. And so is Adam Wainwright and Braden Looper. Any team with the best player in baseball in the everyday lineup, that being Albert Pujols, is a team to be reckoned with. Lets not forget this is a franchise that has won 10 World Series championships too.

Yes, the Cardinals and the Brewers make me nervous.

Pitching is KING. We don't add a frontline starting pitcher and a quality bullpen arm then this season will have yet another sad conclusion.

by MDBNIU on Jun 30, 2008 9:02 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you're not a Cardinals fan

why, exactly?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2008 9:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he prolly secretly is

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by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whatever...

The morons are out in full force

Pitching is KING. We don't add a frontline starting pitcher and a quality bullpen arm then this season will have yet another sad conclusion.

by MDBNIU on Jun 30, 2008 9:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know about

moronS… but i do know ONE who’s made an appearance

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Burn

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He never has anything good to say about the Cubs

but praises the Cardinals to the heavens.

Maybe he’s on the wrong board.

Yikes.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2008 9:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its too early to be nervous

and scoreboard watch.

focus on the cubs.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just realized that XM = 2nd consecutive night of Jon Miller

At least no Morgan. And there is an upside to Aramees Rameerez being out of the lineup

by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cocknfire told a buddy about your sayings. he laughed pretty damn hard

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we were discussing beer

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At least it was relevant

That would be kind of odd coming out of nowhere

by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2008 9:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

his platform?

the great taste, thing?

how’s it go again?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep

bills a brewers fan and we were discussing over supper tonight. so yeah it fit in well. he was amused

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thusly

Negative Nellies: Less filling

Holier-Than-Thou: Great taste

Immature Clowns: Who the h#ll cares? It’s beer!

by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2008 9:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no I don't drink.

so i had a couple glasses of water.

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha

:-)

hopefully the game will go well and we won’t need to post that again, huh?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

www.awfulannouncing.com

I hadn’t seen this anywhere, so I figured I’d throw it up. If you’ve already seen this, please accept my sincerest apologies. Here is ESPN’s Sunday Night Baseball schedule for the first 4 months of the MLB Season. Joe and Jon are back and these are the games they’ll be butcherin

So its just not us cub fans

I've been bleeding double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers

by parrotinct on Jun 30, 2008 9:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chicago Cubs Baseball Is On The Air!

I love it when Pat Hughes says that..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's fiesty

feisty? which is it?

any one, lou is all fired up it appears.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

for me or lou?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I bet your feisty

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

girl

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You'd be surprised how often

I get that

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 30, 2008 9:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

takes one to know one

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 30, 2008 9:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I got a day off today...

... and I got live feed today on my satellite channel…

BTW I got a Barry Zito T-shirts, a gift from my close SF friend who don’t know I hate Giants (do not like SF Giants either)...
The T-shirts is 3 years old and still has tags… what should I do with it?

I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.

by dragonsfanatic on Jun 30, 2008 9:13 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sell it on EBay?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

EBays is not here....

Now I should burn it by Dome’s next at bat? ;-)

I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.

by dragonsfanatic on Jun 30, 2008 9:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who wants a Barry Zito jersey?

“Look at me! I’m a free agent pitcher that can’t throw strikes!”

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jun 30, 2008 9:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Zito (jersey) - LIGHT EM UP!

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2008 9:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

word..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i been in LA for the last couple of days

we are 1-5 since then. i need to get back home. also i cant watch it here! what gives!

by xene on Jun 30, 2008 9:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is the first pitch thread up yet?

I’m not seeing it.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jun 30, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where's the first pitch thread?

Dome strikes out..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 30, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply reply