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Eight Is Not Enough...

... so the Cubs made it nine wins in a row with a 9-6 win over the Padres.

First, my thanks to BCB reader GoCubbies34, who posted the two overflow comment threads last night after -- well, I could make excuses, but I just forgot.

And second, BCB reader jhj posted, two days ago, this FanPost asking people for their superstitions -- and as you likely know, baseball players have a ton of 'em, and they usually get more intense during winning streaks. I have talked about going to the men's room three days in a row during the last homestand, after which the Cubs came from behind to win all three days. And I think I've got another one going during this road trip -- each of the last two nights, I have gone to sleep after the fourth inning, with the Cubs either tied or trailing, just knowing they were going to win.

Now, tomorrow I am off work and could stay up tonight. So I'll leave it up to you guys -- should I? Or should I do the fourth-inning thing again? And if it happens again, do I carry it on to the game in LA on Thursday night (since I am off on Friday also)?

Such are the things we can talk about during this streak, now the Cubs' longest since 2001. Despite Jason Marquis' strange meltdowns last night (balking with the pitcher on base? Making a throwing error two batters later trying to pick off Jody Gerut, allowing said pitcher to score?), he managed to muddle, again, through five innings allowing only three runs to score, and when Geovany Soto and Mark DeRosa homered off former Cub minor leaguer Bryan Corey in the sixth, Marquis wound up with the win.

The way this team is winning may have been expressed best by another ex-Cub, Michael Barrett, in this AP game recap:

"The biggest thing about that lineup is that they really forced us to come to them," said Padres catcher Michael Barrett. "You don’t see them making too many quick outs."

What a difference, right? You wouldn't see that kind of thing from previous Cub teams, but this one works counts (six walks last night) and when you do that, you increase the chances that the other pitcher is going to make a mistake.

Other notes from what I didn't see: Alfonso Soriano homered again; after a somewhat slow period, maybe he's heating up again; the Cubs stole six bases off Michael Barrett last night (even though Ronny Cedeno briefly reverted to his pre-ONEDEC days and overslid second base for the only CS of the night); and boy, I sure am glad the Cubs recalled Kevin Hart to be their 13th pitcher, because he was so effective last night . Lou has got to manage this bullpen better -- last night, three of the five relievers faced two batters (Michael Wuertz, Bob Howry) or one batter (Neal Cotts). It's bad enough we have LOOGYs, now we're having ROOGYs?

These are all minor complaints, as is the complaint that the starting pitching has to, just HAS TO, get better if this team is to continue its amazing run. Even the noted curmudgeon Jay Mariotti is turning into a believer; he suggests, as some of you have already, that the Cubs inquire about C. C. Sabathia:

The ultimate prize would be C.C. Sabathia, who is Zambrano's equal in girth and talent. Could you imagine those two arms in October? For a trade to possibly go down, the Cleveland Indians have to fall out of the American League Central race, which won't happen as long as the White Sox have old men and stragglers in the middle of the order and Ozzie Guillen keeps getting the red Oz. Hendry has plenty of young talent to offer next month, including Gallagher and Sean Marshall. If Sabathia isn't available, the likes of Daniel Cabrera, Joe Blanton, Rich Harden, Jeremy Bonderman and Jarrod Washburn might be.

I hesitate to post that because the name "Rich Harden" is in there, which might give a certain poster here a, um, "Harden" yet again, but the one name that's in that paragraph that intrigues me most is "Jeremy Bonderman". Like a lot of his Tiger teammates, he's off to a mediocre start -- but at age 25, he's got enough upside that a deal to a team in first place might energize him. (And no, Jay, Sean Gallagher isn't the guy I'd ship away.)

Onward and upward. Check out the "Best Cub Team Starts Since 1900" box on the right sidebar -- this team is moving up that list.

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by Arbusto on Jun 4, 2008 8:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

2nd

All things great in 2008!!

by By Santo's Grace on Jun 4, 2008 8:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

this team....

Is something very special as has said very many time before on here. I just love the resilency that this team has. No matter who it is I truly I have complete confidence when they come to the plate in a key situation that they are going to come through!!

All things great in 2008!!

All things great in 2008!!

by By Santo's Grace on Jun 4, 2008 8:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL LOL.....

Light Em up

(even though hes maddux)

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by Rudey on Jun 4, 2008 8:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree Al...

stay away from Rich Harden. I think we’ve been through the ringer with our history of pitching injuries. Enough said.

Sabathia, I just don’t see it happening, mainly because the Indians will be in contention and I think they will eventually sign him. Plus, it would be a lot to give up and not to mention that the guy has pitched a ton in the last couple of years and is bound to break down at some point. IMO and just sayin’

You ARE freaking out MAN!

by crw89 on Jun 4, 2008 8:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

disagree

that sounds about right, why give up a lot of talent just to rent sabathia. but how much better chance would we have to win it all with two aces like that? with our lineup, our bullpen, and zambrano/sabathia at the top of the rotation we would seem absolutely unbeatable in the playoffs.

The Aramis BB/K Watch: 34 walks to 34 strikeouts. Im not sure who the last Cub to have more bb's than k's was, but Im sure it was a very long time ago.

by kylejo on Jun 4, 2008 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This team

doesnt lose 3 in a row as it is… got to think that would continue with Z and CC pitching. Home field advantage could mean series wins.

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 4, 2008 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, but...

... as you said, this team already hasn’t lost more than 2 in a row. So why does it need to give up the farm to rent Sabathia?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agrre with Al

As much as I’d love CC to be here full-time, he’s made it pretty clear he wants to go back to the West Coast

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think attitude (i.e., Bonderman) is what makes the difference---finding their flaw is

First let me say eight games in a row, now two in a row on the West Coast, once the graveyard for many a Cub teams. No doubt Barrett see’s what we have all season, the Cubs hitting approach is something strategic. Interesting how he framed it, they forced us to come to them. Currently I am relegated to the Gameday format I can vouch that from their reporting the Cubs big HR’s were all grooved pitches after long AB’s.

The issue of a top of the rotation pitcher is one where there will only be a few pitchers at all dealt this summer, they are simply too valuable, s o in relative terms a team will have to overpay. This will mean that Hendry’s modus operandi where he deals from opportune will not come into play, he will have to get out of his comfort zone, or will he?

My first obvious opportunity will be Maddux, where after tonight’s start Maddux’s relative marque value for the Padres is small—-can Hendry & Co. make a trade that includes Marquis & mid-level prospect for Maddux in a money deal. Cubs basically pick up an additional $2.6M this year for Padres picking up Marquis’ $9M next year. This would improve the Cubs rotation incrementally. Padres need to rebuild and gaining a E Patterson or Murton could help them.

The next point will be for the Cubs to make one more deal. The Indians are not the target for CC will be the top free agent next year and get them a top supplemental draft pick, and seeing the ChiSox, Detroit and Minn, they are too invested to make the playoffs——unless the Cubs overpay stupidly.

So where I would look is places like LA, Peavy is going to be a FA and they are about to go deep under where Torre is going to want to dismantle this lunacy job. Other places are Seattle, KC, Texas, Toronto and Detroit where if I trade for Bonderman I want to know what is his flaw and if I can correct it. To me the guy is AJ Burnett.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Jun 4, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marquis actually might be a good fit for SD...

... in a bigger park where he’d allow fewer HR. That might just work if the Cubs ate some of the money.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

from your keyboard

to the mountain top.

:P

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah... less HRs, more Triples. Perfect.

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as long as he's pitching for someone else.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't confuse that with pitching.

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well.

he meets the technical definition of the word—he stands on the mound and throws the ball towards the plate.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

more like walking around the mound...

procrastinating to throw the ball…

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's the other thing

SPEED THE F UP! Cripes. I’m getting old here…

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just returning from a walk

this cloudy & cool SD morning, I was thinking the EXACT same thing, AL. Marquis would be a good fit for the Pads. Give them an OF - Murton, or even Pie.
Eat most of Marquis’ contract, and take Maddux. With an offense behind him, Greg would be fine - and then he could be fitted with a rocking chair at the end of the season.

Jake Peavy just signed an extension - didn’t he? He likes pitching in Petco. I really doubt if he wants to leave. And you have to be careful for his future - he is Wood-like in his delivery. There may be more problems ahead. Let somebody else spend millions on Peavy (I still think he’d take the SD discount, if offered in the future)

Let’s hope Maddux isn’t himself tonight. (Sorry, Jessica…)

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 4, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maddux

For Murton and Pie? I wouldnt do Maddux for Pie straight up. IMO, Maddux wouldnt be a starter in the playoffs in a 5 game series.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 4, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...

Maddux would be a nice #4 or #5 starter for the rest of the season. He’s an upgrade over Marquis. But that’s about it.

I might do Murton and Marquis for Maddux, just to get Marquis out of the rotation and off the books for next year. I honestly don’t know whether or not that’s feasible, as who knows what makes GMs tick sometimes. But trading Pie in a package for a guy who’d be (at best) the back end of a playoff rotation just doesn’t make sense.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I could live with trading away Marquis and Murton for Maddux, but not Pie.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um Please trust me re Maddux

IF and it is a HUGE if, he is interested in coming back to the
Cubs it will NOT cost any player you care about (unless you are among
the us Murton fans ) Kevin Towers like Hendry before him is going to
let Maddux go if he wants to. All the Cubs need is to pay the remaining salary and throw in a player maybe Murton who I am SURE they would love or a nice Iowa prospect who is a catcher or corner infielder blocked from moving. They will be in NO position to get more anymore again than the Cubs were in 06. The Maddux situation is unique and while no one would EVER say so openly he is going to dictate the terms IF he decides to move. Basically Scott Boras will call Hendry and or Colletti and say ” Greg would love to come back” Either or both of them
get on the phone and figure it out discreetly. All of them love Maddux
All of them will bend over backwords to accomadate him and it is not
like the Padres are losing someone they can use in a race.

Again I really think he stays put in California but you need not worry
about the “price’ if he wants to come back to the Cubs

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 4, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to know.

Jimbo, git ‘er done!

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no WAY

is Maddux worth Marquis AND Pie. They can have Marquis, and we’ll pay half of Jason’s remaining salary, for Maddux. If they get Murton too, we get a prospect. At least. This isn’t Greg Maddux from 2001.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Peavy's also

currently on the DL with a “swollen elbow.”

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes I meant Penny

He pitched last night and I thought he is a FA next year. The real target is Burnett though. He is going to opt out of his contract and seek the big $$$ and needs to have a marque platform.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Jun 4, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't Burnett an injury waiting to happen?

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Burnett is set to make $12 million per for two more years...

I can’t imagine with his injury history and with the fact that he’s 31 and hasn’t been to make the jump (has always just been a shade better than average), that he’d be in line to make a lot more money than that. I certainly wouldn’t be lining up to pay him more than that. I’m not saying that he won’t opt out, it just doesn’t seem like the best of decisions.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lee Sinns has Penny

as the 5th worse pitcher in the NL for runs saved above average. Not a good choice by any means. Not one to give up talent for.

by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 4, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looking at LA... for Peavy?

You mean Lowe?

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd go wait and see on Lowe.

He’s strung together 3 decent starts, but he was awful to open the season.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

The Cubs are fine right now. It’s still seven weeks till the trading deadline. We have time.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And a pretty loaded deck

as far as trading options. Nice position to be in.

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 4, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

That said, if Lowe could turn it around, he’d be a perfect guy to add. Postseason experience, gets lots of groundballs, doesn’t walk a ton of guys, not a turd in the clubhouse…

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, in favor of Lowe

though I think the Dodgers will stick around for long enough that he wont be available.

The Aramis BB/K Watch: 34 walks to 34 strikeouts. Im not sure who the last Cub to have more bb's than k's was, but Im sure it was a very long time ago.

by kylejo on Jun 4, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention...

That while LA has struggled recently, they are only 3.5 games out of the division lead. They aren’t bailing out YET.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

boy

that’s a bad division… :D

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus, LA is hurt right now.

They’ll be a better team when they get healthy

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right...

I don’t see the Dodgers being sellers just yet. Maybe if Jones and Furcal come back from injury and the team still falls back. But given that they’re in the hunt even without their SS or their CF, I don’t think they’re selling yet.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well... you know he's on the top of my list :)

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting points, but haven't the Cubs won NINE games in a row?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES! WE RULE!

But, you always have to look for ways to improve.

I mean… would you want to send Marquis out to the hill to face, say the Cards Brewers, Reds, Phillies or D-Backs?

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Reds

only if they promise to light him up the way they did Lieber.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jay Bruce would go directly to Cooperstown

After an afternoon vs Marquis.

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I agree.

I was just pointing out an inaccuracy in Ivy Wall’s post, not implying that the team shouldn’t look for ways to improve.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trust me I thought about that

No way the Padres do this UNLESS the Cubs pick up nearly all of Marquis’
salary NEXT YEAR. They are very cheap team and they are not eating 6 million
or so for Marquis ( FYI Maddux will be owed roughly 3.2 million if traded near deadline) That said I am not sure it might not be worth eating much of the salary but
if you want the Padres to take him you take the salary just as the Cubs did with Izzy

Um Peavy has LONG term deal. Did you mean some Dodger pitcher Penny perhaps ? I don’t care for the guy but maybe

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 4, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It might be worth doing...

... to make this sort of deal.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

would Cleveland...

take Mel Hall and Joe Carter again?

by bison on Jun 4, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about Tim Hudson?

Tim Hudson, I think a much better pitcher with a manageable salary with a couple years left. He looks to have plenty in the tank to make a good #2 starter behind Z. The Braves don’t seem to be producing much pitching talent lately as evidence by signing Glavine and waiting around for Hampton… Smoltz appears to be done with season ending surgery. I think they would appreciate some young arms right about now.

Anyway, the Braves are still in the hunt right now so likely not selling just yet…. but I would really like to see Hudson in blue.

Ok, devour me you vultures.

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 4, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love the Sarcasm

about Hart. He was really awful last night. I also wonder what Lou said to him as he sort of grabbed a hold of him to keep him there while he talked to him a bit before letting him head off the field.

by adam316 on Jun 4, 2008 8:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Probably the samd thing he said to Marquis

“Throw F*&%ing strikes!” With a “I’ve got other guys in the bullpen that will,” mixed in.

With Hart it might be, “Have fun back in Iowa. Tell Piggy I said ‘hi.’”

by Archie on Jun 4, 2008 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He meant

when he pulled him.

Im sure it was something like, “your gonna get another shot, just throw strikes and you’ll be back on this mound”

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by Rudey on Jun 4, 2008 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steve Stone was saying the same thing as Mariotti

yesterday on the Score. He’s convinced, though he failed to say why, that Hendry will make “rental” type of deal, where he trades for a big-name pitcher with an expiring contract. Then Sabathia’s name came up, as he recently turned down, IIRC, 18 mil/yr from Cleveland. Stone seemed to think that was the target, though, again, he never cited where he was getting this from. So, take that FWIW, as this is the same man who said Wood could never be a closer, that Soto’s weight would force him to 1B/DH, and that Brian Roberts would certainly be a CUb.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 8:29 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So IOW...

... we can forget about Sabathia or another rent-a-player.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lol.

It would seem so, but I wouldn’t put it past Hendry, especially if Lilly has a rough outing tonight. I don’t think He or Lou will be content with both Ted and Jason struggling, plus Dempster and Gallagher being unknown quantities at this point; Hendry may decide he wants a more proven talent in the rotation. However, these are my own suspicions, and little more. I don’t put much stock in Stone’s “predictions anymore.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You really think Demp is still an unknown quantity?

I was just thinking thins morning about how I kind of expect him to win every start—something I never thought I’d do.

He’s been a real pleasant surprise.

Not disagreeing with you really Varsh. Is it the “going deeper into games” question?

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's unknown

in that he doesn’t have a track record as a starter for us to have a comfortable feel as to how he will do going forward. Will his arm hold up with the increased number of innings he will be throwing? etc.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 4, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I can see that

I’d like to think because the decision to make him a starter was made so early he changed the way he prepared this off season.

Plus he’s Canadian. If his arm starts to hurt they can just put bear grease on it or whatever.

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right.

It’s really a question of how he will hold up over the long run. He hasn’t thrown over 100 innings since 2003. I’m as pleased with his performance as anyone, and not just because I’m invested fairly heavily in him fantasy baseball-wise at this point. It’s great to see how hard he worked in the offseason and the level of success he, and, by extension the Cubs, is enjoying.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it's a combination of a few things...

1. The fact that he’s not pitched over 100 innings since 2003;
2. The fact that he’s never pitched this well in his entire career; and
3. The fact that he seems to be getting fortunate on balls hit in play in that he doesn’t have more base hits allowed.

That’s not to say that he can’t continue to be really good. Just that these are three questions to which we don’t yet know the answers.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Robin Roberts or Fergie Jenkins

would be good choices instead of Marquis.

Seattle is going to have to dump salery sooner or later, though I doubt they would give up Bedard, who they gave up their future for, and I don’t think that I’d want Washburn.

by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 4, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Luck and Skill are an incredible force

Luck exhibited by getting through several innings with Jason Marquis, and keeping a manageable score. Skill….well, skill is throughout the lineup. What else can you say. This is wonderful.

by Cajuncub on Jun 4, 2008 8:29 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And ineptitude... by the Padres offense.

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

First we got Scrappy-Doo.

Now we have ROOGY-doo?

The thing that carried Hart last year was confidence. He was Lou’s golden boy. Now? He’s been pretty bad this year in the ML. I’m pretty sure Lou will give him another chance, in a decently big situation.

If Hart doesn’t produce, luckily we’ve got Ascansio waiting.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 8:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

One thing we know about Lou:

He loves having guys in the bullpen that throw hard, so Hart will likely get a few more chances, before getting sent back down.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Had the Cubs known...

... they were going to want a 13th pitcher, Ascanio wouldn’t have been sent down. Now he can’t be recalled until he’s down there for 10 days.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right.

Although, I kind of felt like we were laying with fire with Ascanio. He was a bit wild. However, it’s not as if Hart looked like a worldbeater last nigh, either. What gives me hope, is that we’re talking about which pitcher we’d like to use, instead of wondering where we can get a pitcher to use! Pitching depth is a great strength of this club.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This bullpen is turning into a real unit

Although we know them because we’re Cubs fans, I love the fact that most fans couldn’t name three people in our bullpen outside of Woody.

They just get the job done.

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think anonymity the case with most teams' bullpens...

Unless you’re a real baseball addict, I doubt most people can go deeper than 1-2 names in most teams’ bullpens (aside from their own team’s pen, of course).

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Ascanio

can come up with a decent curve, he’d be back up immediately.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 4, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The move in 10 days will be to recall the Big Hoff and DH him in Toronto.

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Daryle will be ready by then.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Len and Bob seemed to be unsure of that.

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can we please just pass that 4th place finish?

This team deserves the series, we can do it! But that is haunting me!

by slcathena on Jun 4, 2008 8:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lou must have been at wits end

with Marquis (and I don’t blame him) to show him up on the mound like that. Even the Padre announcers seemed a little taken aback. I watched it on the MLB.tv replay this morning and it was surprising.

The other stat that I heard from the Padre announcers was that while DLee is hitting .291, he is only hitting .270(something) with RISP. That surprised me a bit. But, in the end it can only mean good things because we know DLee will be better and here we are scoring runs in bunches and winning nine in a row with DLee struggling.

It’s a great time to be a Cub fan.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 4, 2008 8:37 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t have D-Lee’s stats in front of me, but I can’t imagine the difference between .270 (something) with RISP and .291 with RISP is any more than two or three at-bats. He’s fine.

by HereComesASpecialBoy on Jun 4, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose that's true

it just surprised me since Lee is a good hitter and you would imagine that he is getting some good pitches to hit with Ramirez behind him.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 4, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Especially

on the first strike out. That last pitch he swung at was nowhere near the zone.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 4, 2008 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wasn't that part of

the double-steal? Or was that later?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was

part of the double steal, so maybe it was a hit and run type thing so Derrek’s strike zone was a little expanded trying to protect the runners

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 4, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

scary dlee stat

he hit just .234 in May. You’ve got to think that will change and he gets hot in June, though .234?

The Aramis BB/K Watch: 34 walks to 34 strikeouts. Im not sure who the last Cub to have more bb's than k's was, but Im sure it was a very long time ago.

by kylejo on Jun 4, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D-Lee's lifetime splits

May: .246/.315/.418
June: . 318/.405/.571

I’m thinking he’ll be just fine.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's just not being aggressive in this rut.

He takes too many “hitters” pitches while trying to work the count. Then, he gets into protect the plate mode and puts the “pitchers” pitch in play (or strikes out looking).

Gotta be aggressive big guy! You’re the RBI guy!

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's been taking a lot of crushable pitches

and flailing at the crap.

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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 4, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watching Lee's at bat in the 4th with RISP.

He really battled, even though he K’d. Looked like he wore Ledezma down a little.

Don’t mind that. He’ll be fine.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HUGE shout out

to the Cubs fans in the stadium last night. Even when watching the highlights from Padres tv cast, the Cubs fans were LOUD!

Love waking up to the 9th win in a row.

*Synth intro to "Jump"*

by SouthsideCub on Jun 4, 2008 8:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

we

ran at will last night I was impressed. onto tonight we gotta beat marquis future replacement and lower his trade value. lmao

It might beeeeee!! It could beeeeeee!! It issssss!! Homerun!! Holyyyyyyy Cow!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jun 4, 2008 8:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Al--you need your rest.....after the 4th inning

it’s “turn out the lights. the party’s over.” (in his best Don Meredith imitation).

In addition, an urgent request to all BCB readers, do NOT change your shorts unless the streak somehow comes to an end. That is all.

BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"

by cubfever7 on Jun 4, 2008 8:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If they keep winning

how long do we have to wear the shorts? Suddenly the word streak takes on a whole new meaning.

by adam316 on Jun 4, 2008 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO

Sorry—I’m going to change my shorts because that’s what I’ve been doing through the streak.

But I’ll do the 4th inning thing.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not changing shorts=streaks.

In more ways than one. Just sayin.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO again.

Dunno if I want THAT kind of streak.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

L Your AO...

would provide NO streaks.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or maybe just one huge one....

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TW...

ah, that’s tee-ball.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I set 'em up, you knock 'em down.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those aren't skid marks...

those are bacon strips.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 4, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well --

the little pink donuts are still available at 7-11 here and I haven’t purchased one all season. My cholesterol and blood sugar come before superstition. Therefore, on my walk from a parking lot to Petco tonight - passing not one, but two 7-11’s - I will avoid the sugary treats.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 4, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

AL

You keep saying to embrace this Cub’s season and enjoy it as much as possible. I don’t think turning off a game in the 4th inning (unless it is for work or some committment) is embracing it. Watch away!!!

by gocubsgo22 on Jun 4, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Believe it or not

when the Bulls were in their Championship years, I never saw a 4th quarter. When I watched, they’d lose, and win when I didnt. True story.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 4, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe it

God Bless you. I don’t know if I could have handled that. :)

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember that 4th quarter comeback

against Portland? Didn’t see it until SportsChannel or whoever ran the repeats of the games.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 4, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man. those games were awesome!

They’d be behind like 10+ points… start the full court press with Scottie terrorizing who ever had the ball, and then BOOM. You blink an eye and it’s a 2 point game.

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to get SOME sleep!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did anyone else hear David Kaplan's rant last night?

He was going OFF about how you’re not a true, die-hard Cubs fan unless you forsake all sleep to stay up to watch these games. While I appreciate his enthusiasm, unless you’ve got a REALLY flexible schedule, that’s a lot easier said than done.

I’d also point out that, with the many options now available for watching the game or at least its highlights, you can still support your team and “see” what happened without absolutely, positively having to do so in real time.

Now, if these were postseason games, or even late-regular season playoff-race games, I would change my tune entirely of course.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The trick is to not change your position on the couch.

Once you decide to “lean” a little more… you’re done.

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

another trick

is to not empty the bladder until you’re ready to go to bed…. this always keeps me up… a little painful after a while but as they say, no pain no gain.

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 4, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

when you've drunk

five beers, the… situation… becomes… imminent.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I drink out of bottles

not cans…

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes..

if they’re having a rally, I sit perfectly still and don’t move a muscle until an out is made. I know, it must be some sort of disorder, but I don’t care.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 4, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I sit

on the right armrest of my couch when we’re in scoring position and in dire need of runs. I also tend to play my guitar when the opposition is up.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I watch

when we bat, and I sit at my desk and talk on this board when they bat.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess my only TV-related superstition is...

...I NEVER change the channel during commercial breaks. I have a strict “no surfing” rule.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In 2003 I had a lucky Fenway Park hat...

...don’t aske me why. It ain’t so lucky anymore.

BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"

by cubfever7 on Jun 4, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shoot

i am still wearing my lucky shorts from ‘69. I am holding out hope that the shorts are not the reason the Cubs have not been to the WS in 99 years.

"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Jun 4, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou looked pissed

After Marquis bounced the pickoff throw about 4 feet in front of Lee. I couldn’t believe he left him in as long as he did. They kept showing Lou throughout the first 5 innings, just bitching to whoever was around. I don’t see this relationship lasting much longer, but a win is a win I suppose.

Oh and not to sound like a noob but what does LOOGY/ROOGY mean? I’ve seen it a few times and it’s not in the BCB Dictionary….

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 4, 2008 8:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOOGY

Lefty One Out GuY …. essentially someone who comes in just to get the left hander out. See: Scott Eyre

by GoCubbies34 on Jun 4, 2008 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha

Thanks

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 4, 2008 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is there really a BCB dictionary??

I kinda always thought that that just was a running joke. I did even glance at the home page for it at one time, but then kinda felt stupid for doing so when I didn’t notice it.

"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."

by BMoney79 on Jun 4, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, thanks!!

"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."

by BMoney79 on Jun 4, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No problem Al! When 10:30 rolled around and the overflow wasn't up I figured something happened...

I mean you were tired and all, for goodness sakes you had Marquis pitching against a Randy Johnson look-a-like named Oswalt with the stats of Ledezma!

I fell asleep in the 8th though and wasn’t able to post my new win flag picture… guess that will have to wait til tonight!

by GoCubbies34 on Jun 4, 2008 8:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So Marriotti thinks we should look at Harden? Hmmmm

MDBNIU = Mariotti?

I have the same reaction when I read something either one of them has written…eyes rolling, head slapping, screaming at the computer.

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 8:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Calling Mariotti a curmudgeon is being much too nice...

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 4, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quick!

Where’s Blue Mike when Around the Horn is on?!

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marquis is really Pi$#@ng me off

he bitches about maybe being in the bullpen and all that, so you’d think he’d pitch with a chip on his shoulder to prove he belongs in the rotation. He was his own worst enemy last night and has been shaky at best this year. Thankfully, the offense bailed his sorry butt out. He knows Lou has him on a short leash so he better get his act together or he’ll be left off the playoff roster AGAIN!

All we need are 3 studs for the playoffs, but it would be nice to have another for insurance. Look at what Dempster’s done, he took his off season seriously and worked hard and is pitching great. Maybe Marquis is doing a flip flop this year and the 2nd half will be better than what we’re seeing so far. We can only hope.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 4, 2008 8:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mediocre pitchers

like Marquis really get exposed on good teams. On this team, being just an “innings-eater” is no longer acceptable. He needs to go deep into games and win.

.

by salparadise23 on Jun 4, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And, as I posted above,

the numbers show that he’s not even and “innings-eater,” at this point.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

That’s the issue. If Marquis is going 6 per game, then we can live with the mediocrity. But he’s not.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

As long as he doesn’t balk.

And walk pitchers.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And throw pick-off attempts into RF

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That too.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And bounce pitches in the dirt with a runner on 3rd.

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and be cranky about

possibly going to the pen.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Other than that

What did you think of the play, Mrs. Lincoln?

by salparadise23 on Jun 4, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL. Priceless

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You said it

5 shaky innings per start is not what we need right now. Z and Demp are doing great, we need Jason to get his head out of his keister and start pitching. Getting a batter 0-2 in the count and then to start nibbling raises your pitch count and lets the other team know you feel you don’t have a “finishing” pitch to put you away. They can hang in there at 0-2 and hope Marquis nibbles his way to a walk.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 4, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly!!

BigJohn I couldn’t put my finger on it but that’s it exactly! When he gets way ahead in the count he starts getting “cute” with his pitches.

OK, he needs to stop doing that.

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marquis blows raw monkey

He’s a tool – he should be teamed up with Michael B. on the Pads. Perfect match.

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 4, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 4, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now, tomorrow I am off work and could stay up tonight. So I’ll leave it up to you guys—should I? Or should I do the fourth-inning thing again? And if it happens again, do I carry it on to the game in LA on Thursday night (since I am off on Friday also)?

If I’d gone to sleep at 11:30 like I said I was going to on the thread, and not stayed up till midnight, I would have missed Soriano’s monster shot into the upper deck in dead center. HUGE home-run.

Anyone see Muskrat’s article on MLB.com today? She keeps saying that we’re ekeing out these wins. We won 9-6, is that not a pretty dominant score?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 8:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And

the 7-6 win was one of those the game wasn’t as close as the score indicated games, IMO. “ekeing” is not the right word.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 4, 2008 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I read Muskrat Love's article...

...on my cell phone on the train this morning. And I was really annoyed that she ended the article with the words “Just barely.” She’s a bad enough writer to begin with, but when she tries to be profound she’s makes me want to break something.

And I’m here to confess that I turned the game off after Eyre’s dominant K in the bottom of the sixth. I was up late Sunday and watched the entire game on Monday night and the sleep deprivation was just getting to me. I figured I’d miss something good, but I’m actually kinda glad I missed Hart’s implosion. I’m not sure my exhausted eyes could’ve taken the strain.

Nine in a row…wow…so this is what that feels like….

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny how she didn't write those comments

in the Cubs.com article.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 4, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

She did...

It’s the last thing she said in the article, she also included this gem: “Yet, watching the Cubs lately, it’s hard to believe they’re on a nine-game win streak. It seems as if each game is a struggle”

"The 12 second rule is how long it takes Carlos Lee to hear, turn around, run over, find and eat a hot dog dropped by a fan in the Crawford Boxes at Minute Maid park" - ballhawk

by MScubbie on Jun 4, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're correct

You know what, Carrie? Winning IS a struggle. Losing is easy. It takes a lot more energy to win a game than to lose it, 99% of the time. We’ve had a few laughers this year, but most of the wins are wins of attrition, we hung around long enough to get into the other team’s bullpen and were patient enough at the plate to get hittable pitches. Hacking away is easy.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 4, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just saying

that a 9-6 win is a pretty good win. Even when Hart gave up the HR, did anyone REALLY think that the Cubs were gonna lose? (I was asleep,, so I know I certainly didn’t.)

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, and...

CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!!!!!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 8:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Finally!

Can’t really celebrate until I see this and my boy Leon

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al, I think you have a free pass for tonight - do whatever you want

Cubs have already won this series, and they have four with the Dodgers coming up, and given all the Dodgers’ injuries, taking 3 out of 4 is very possible. And finally, Maddux is going tonight for the Fathers. So while a loss is never desirable, they do happen. And if they have to happen, tonight seems to be a good night to take one. Then again, a 14-3 laugher of a victory would be a nice change of pace too.

So, I think tonight is one of those games where we can all take a breather, sit back, and accept whatever the baseball gods decide to send our way… unless SD pulls it out at the end and Maddux does NOT get the win. That would be unacceptable.

btw, I’m no lip-reader but I think when Lou went out to the mound to talk to Marquis, he said something like this:

Lou: Okay, well, uh… candlesticks always make a nice gift

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 4, 2008 8:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Are you comparing Marquis to Nuke LaLoosh?

At least LaLoosh had a good fastball!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DUDE - Marquis is Nuke LaDOUCHE

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 4, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Naw, he's

Le Marquis du Mediocre

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by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what Marquis needs!

Got to wear the garter belt!

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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 4, 2008 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al, go to sleep

that’s my vote because I’m on the same pattern and it’s working!

Marquis was horrible. Only an inept team like the Padres let him live another day. I would have loved to hear some of Lou’s comments in the dugout but I do appreciate (as Len and Bob stated on the air) that he doesnt go public with any of that stuff a’la Ozzie Guillen. I guess winning also helps.

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 4, 2008 8:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mmmm..... Bonderman

To be true.

Away from Comerica this year. Started 6 Games, is 2-1, with a 3.08 ERA over 38 innings. If you conveniently ignore the home stat line, he looks great out of Detroit.

by N Oakley on Jun 4, 2008 8:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We've got a good recent history of dealing with Detroit...

Can’t see it happening though. Who would they want?

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by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bullpen help

and we could provide them with plenty of it. Maybe Donnie Veal’s resurgence makes him an attractive piece to a trade. I think we could definitely make it happen, and I really like the idea of getting Bonderman.

The Aramis BB/K Watch: 34 walks to 34 strikeouts. Im not sure who the last Cub to have more bb's than k's was, but Im sure it was a very long time ago.

by kylejo on Jun 4, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Detroit is rumored to covet Wuertz,

But his performances of late have likely cooled some of that initial fervor.

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by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They will also be looking for payroll flexibilty. With Cabrera, Sheffield, etc. they have a lot of guys tied up to big deals. They look like the Yankees of the late 90’s. Difference is if the Tigers stop winning, the fan base has a history of staying home.

by N Oakley on Jun 4, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Detroit just DFA'd Francisco Cruceta

Cruceta has never really put it all together.

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOW. I fell asleep when Wuertz came in...

Just looked at the play by play. Man. Thank god we scored 9!!!!

Jeez. We really need to get better middle relief. I’d say finding a quality starter for the rotation and a go-to middle relief man are the top priorities.

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I was in bed...

but it looks like Hart was terrible and Wuertz wasn’t bad. Am I wrong?

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by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kind of.

Hart wasn’t great, but Wuertz was shaky, as well.

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by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come Friday, I will rule the world (and be able to watch games again)

Moving sucks.

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by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Wuertz did OK, actually.

I could be imagining this, but he seemed to be pitching to contact more than trying to strike guys out. If that’s true, it seemed to work for him. He got two pop ups and the single from Greene wasn’t all that hard hit—it just went right up the middle. I thought Wuertz redeemed himself somewhat.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, Wuertz threw 12 pitches, 7 strikes, 5 balls.

He’s been prone to wildness lately, and I think more guys are laying off the low and away slider, which has been his out pitch.

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by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

streaks on beds

oh man

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 4, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is why you never bring a blacklight to a hotel room.

There are some things you are better off not knowing.

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by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

even more applicable to a motel room

by N Oakley on Jun 4, 2008 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

is there -really- any difference anymore?

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by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, most hotels have some money to fund house cleaning, so some surfaces get cleaned occasionally. However, I see your point.

by N Oakley on Jun 4, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SOME surfaces get cleaned OCCASIONALLY.

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by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah. from the play by play Hart sucked.

Came in with a friggin 9-3 lead, and he walks the lead-off man… loads the bases, and walks a run in before getting yanked. HORRIBLE.

You think it was comical when Lou was chewing out Marquis to throw strikes. I can only imagine what he was yelling at Hart. “It’s 9-3… throw some F’n strikes you dumb piece of &&*.”

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Walks were big

with a crappy throwing catcher like Barrett.. a walk is like the equivalent of hitting a bunch of doubles. Hope the walking then running continues tonight.

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 4, 2008 9:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And Bard's not much better,

So, if he gets the start tonight, that shouldn’t change anything. And Greg Maddux is probably the easiest pitcher to steal a base off of this side of Jose Contreras.

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by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maddux+Barrett= Many SB's

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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 4, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many times did we steal 3rd last night?

Let’s steal home tonight!

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point...

I think the Cubs could steal home, cure cancer, find Osama, preside over the marriage of a Palestinian and Israeli, perform plastic surgery on Joan Rivers and give everyone a puppy.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And make gas $1 a gallon again!

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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 4, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Asking a little much, aren't we?

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by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, I went a little overboard :(

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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 4, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be sweet!

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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 4, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't remember ever seeing...

a steal of home, except for the Jackie Robinson highlight that’s shown a lot. Maybe Big Z will try it this year..:)

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 4, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There was one last week

Can’t remember who did it though, or what team.

by cubsonWGN4ever on Jun 4, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seattle's

Jojhmi or whatever (the pitcher) stole home on a broken suicide squeeze. Was pretty cool.

Restraining the urge to get giggly....

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 4, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice..

esp being the pitcher..

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 4, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair

Maddux+Blanco, Bako, Perez, Girardi, Campenella, Bench, Rodriquez etc , etc
equals many SB.s.
I LOVE Madog but don’t blame those steals on the catcher.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 4, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great comment

any time we get a man on first, we have to try to take 2nd. Barrett is really poor at throwing runners out. If we get 5-6 guys on, the most he’ll throw out is 1 maybe 2. I;ll take those odds as the other 4 or 5 most likely will score.

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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 4, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you looking to post the over/under on balls thrown into the outfield?

by N Oakley on Jun 4, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And don't forget all the passed balls he coughs up

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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 4, 2008 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two things:

“Respect the streak”, as Crash Davis said, so sorry Al, hit the sack after the 4th.

AND

Bonderman would be an interesting pickup. Having seen him pitch in Detroit, he’s an enigma wrapped in a connundrum. When he’s good, he’s very good. He also has trouble getting out of the first inning.

Alan Trammel would be able to provide some good feedback about Bonderman from his days as the Tiger’s manager.

Could be a good pickup IF it does’t cost the Cubs an arm and a leg. Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski is a shrewd dealer (Willis and Cabrera), so Jim Hendry will have to be on his toes and not give away the farm.

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (#13031 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list...)

by Zeke on Jun 4, 2008 9:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1 Respect the Streak!

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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 4, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And the gnome!

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A couple years from now, The Marlins will have probably gotten the best of that deal.

Willis is suddenly garbage… and Cabrera will have gained 35 pounds by then.

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it humanly possible for him to gain more weight?

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by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ask Prince Fielder

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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 4, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Somebody here order an Awesome Blossome with extra Awesome?

Is there a Miggy here?

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by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mo Vaughn says, "Yes."

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by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't Willis sucking last year?

He was such a stud and now total crap. He fell pretty quickly.

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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 4, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he's all ready

gained that 35

Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!

by Ihatethecards on Jun 4, 2008 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

For the Tigers, this year is a case of “if something CAN go wrong, it WILL”. So I’m holding my assessment of the trade until at least the end of next year.

That’s why the playoff and WS are not awarded based on a paper lineup- just ask the Yankees.

The Tigers DID give up a lot of good young arms last winter (including the Rentieria deal with Atlanta).

So, we’ll see…

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (#13031 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list...)

by Zeke on Jun 4, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The thing about trading for a pitcher

IMO it’s not worth it if you’re just going after a mediocre pitcher that is going to come to Wrigley under intense pressure and expectations in the middle of a pennant run. For THIS team, I’m not convinced it’s a better move than just sticking with what we’ve got. It will take a tremendous amount of skill from said pitcher and luck that we haven’t had in 100 years to somehow by God’s grace come together to actually work and give us what we’re all seeking here.

Having not personally witnessed or followed Bonderman at all, and simply looking at career stats, looks about the same if not worse than Marquis.

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 4, 2008 9:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I understand what you are seeing with the career stats, but he came up with Trammel in those abysmal Tiger 100 loss years. His early development abused his career numbers. With Bonderman, you have to ignore the Trammel years.

by N Oakley on Jun 4, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow - Woody gave up a double to start off the 9th???

Glad I missed that drama after that scary 8th.

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 4, 2008 9:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

To Gonzalez I believe..

And he is so locked in right now we should just walk him…

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by Bump Bailey on Jun 4, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Later, everyone

actually have to do some work today LOL See ya all tonight!

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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 4, 2008 9:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Trade Market

You know I wouldn’t be surprised if CC or another good starter were to come to The Cubs. We’re not used to being that team who would get a good player in a trade due to being a contender. Yea last year I know we made some minor trades but this is different. We have enough prospects that are tradeable that we could get a good pitcher in return by July.

by ak123 on Jun 4, 2008 9:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I too have had enough of Marquis.

Walking the pitcher last night, the wonderful pick-off move, and the other walks, Lou had to be pissed. If there is one place to pitch, it is in San Diego, huge park and two hitters in the lineup. I don’t get it Marquis has been around long enough, he is not that dumb. Our pen has been overused, pitching to that horrible team and throwing in the Grand Canyon, THROW STRIKES.
I don’t know if Sabitha is realistic, one the Cubs would have to give up at least 4 players, and do the Cubs rent or try to sign him long term. Bonderman is intriging. I don’t know, something will shake out, if Marquis keeps throwing like this, Cubs will pick up someone in July.
Cedeno’s AB’s last night were weak, and sliding over the bag again is just to much.
The rotation needs to get squared away, that is the main point of attention. This Cub lineup is the best in the league, hate to waste this effort with poor pitching.
All this whining on my part, I do love this team. You just get to this point, and you want this team to be even better than it is. I guess you can say I/we get spoiled.
Keep it up fellas, the nights and days are fun to watch.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Jun 4, 2008 9:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

At work again early....

I’m beat! Stayed up for the second night to watch the cubbies win. So now I feel if I go to sleep before the game is over the streak will end…. Come back to the midwest cubbies! I need my rest.

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 4, 2008 9:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We have two more series like this.

June 30-July 3 in San Francisco (three late starts) and July 21-23 in Arizona (three starts at 8:40 CT).

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by Al on Jun 4, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stocking up on Folgers

n/t

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 4, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D. Lee has slipped below .350

with his OBP. He needs to start taking his shots to right field. That’s what they are giving him.

by Rick B on Jun 4, 2008 9:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just say no to giving away Gallagher

That arm is very precious IMO

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"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 4, 2008 9:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

TWSS

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 4, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Judges?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Denied.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I concur.

Sorry, malice.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Illicit use of the TWSS. Motion denied.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOW

“Illicit use of the TWSS. Motion denied. “

LOL – nice.

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 4, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tough room - :)

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 4, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

can we use

a different motion?

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by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWSS.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And it comes full circle.

Well done, everybody.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome.

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on Jun 4, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, after the Stoney Playgirl pic was posted yesterday...

... we could throw in the occasional TWSTS here and there.

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 4, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A.J. Burnett

could be a possibility if Totonto falls back in the East.

by Rick B on Jun 4, 2008 9:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Stuff

I am also tired as I have fallen asleep with the game on the past 2 nights only to wake up at about 1 or 2am to turn it off. Al I would watch the game if I were you and didn’t have to wake up at 6am, but if the Cubs lose it will be all your fault. Just joshing.

If we have any opportunity to get C.C., do it! I still feel we are 1 ace type pitcher away from being able to win it all.

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on Jun 4, 2008 9:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cool thing about that...

On Comcast here in Chicago anyway, they replay the game immediately after it’s over, so if you wake up in the middle of the night, you can catch it again (or for the first time or whatever). It’s also put “On Demand” for free on Channel 999, so there you can watch it WHENEVER you like (for a few days anyway until another more recent game replaces it) and even scan through it, rewind, pause, etc. It’s quite cool.

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 4, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, putting the games On Demand is awesome.

And, as has been pointed out before but bears repeating, you can watch the game in its entirety via the Cubs Web site (or mlb.com) – and you don’t need to be an mlb.tv subscriber to do so.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes. I woke up and Marquis was pitching again!

Talk about nightmares!

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

6 am?

Try 3:30 am.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3:30am

Thinking of getting up at that time scares me.

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on Jun 4, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, me too.

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by Al on Jun 4, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al, I think you're looking at the superstition pessimistically.

Maybe going to bed after the fourth means the Cubs win games that become too close for comfort. If you stay up and watch, maybe we blow them out.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 9:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm.

There’s an idea. What say the rest of you?

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by Al on Jun 4, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's worth a shot.

The Cubs have won the series.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we've won the series.

go for it.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go to bed

I went to bed also in the top of the 4th. It works for now. Ill watch Friday.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 4, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever you

are comfortable with. It would be nice to have you join us in here.

by sue369 on Jun 4, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al

This team is good. They have a .300 hitter batting 8th. They’ll win in spite of us and our crazy superstitions.

Feel free to stay up and watch - you, of all people, deserve it.

DMH

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jun 4, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I'm leaning towards doing the same as the past few nights

Simply because I hate getting little sleep, plus I’m recovering from a cold. There’ll be plenty of opportunities for lost sleep later this season, me thinks.

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jun 4, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And note now that the Cubs have won 9 straight...

... Blue Mike is nowhere to be seen.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blue Mike

is MDB right?

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on Jun 4, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He showed up

last night so I’d expect him any time now. He wasn’t too excited when Soriano hit his homerun however.

by sue369 on Jun 4, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And that says it right there.

Whatever your feelings on a guy, you cheer for the team. Most of us weren’t amped on Edmonds joining the team but we cheered like madmen (and madwomen) when he contributed greatly to our comeback against the Rockies.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

amen.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SWL

No mention of him yet? Any sightings last night?

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 4, 2008 10:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

was he the guy

who almost caught the foul ball when it bounced off his wrist, and then pulled his sweatshirt up to prove he was a cubs fan to the guy who did catch the ball?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how did you guys feel about that?

personally, i thought catch the ball if you want it man. I dont see how he could possbily ask the guy to give him the ball, just because it hit him first. I mean, how many times does a foul ball ricoche? It happens on almost every one, if you want it, catch it. Dont complain and get a pity foul ball given back to you. I thought that exchange was very odd.

The Aramis BB/K Watch: 34 walks to 34 strikeouts. Im not sure who the last Cub to have more bb's than k's was, but Im sure it was a very long time ago.

by kylejo on Jun 4, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno.

I liked that the fan gave it back to him. He did give it right to his kid.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha, I saw that, too.

It was a rather odd and dramatic exchange. I think “sore wrist guy” was arguing that he was trying to catch the ball for the little boy he was with and that his fellow Cubs fan should hand it over.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you're right.

Reminds me of a game I went to at Wrigley many years ago. We’re sitting in my dad’s bosses season tix a few rows back along the first base line. A foul shot lands two rows and slightly to the left of us. A kid younger than I was and his grandfather go for the ball, as does a thirtysomething dude. The dude gets it. And out come the boy’s tears. Grandpa kinda sits there uncomfortably as the dude’s friends jokingly pressure him to give the ball to the kid. He finally, grudgingly, concedes, but not before grumbling, “Been coming to games all my life, NEVER got a ball. His first time…” Gramps then elbows the boy who whimpers out a wee, “Thank you.” For the rest of the game EVERY foul ball elicited “GIVE IT TO THE KID” chants from our section.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He made a good argument for it

Not saying he deserves the ball, but he pleaded, pleaded some more, pointed to his injured wrist and almost took his sweater off to show his Chicago roots. But at least he gave it to his kid at the end.

by southloop on Jun 4, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Might I direct you to...

...this new fanpost.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He looks like Doug Flutie to me

BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"

by cubfever7 on Jun 4, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flutie!

Yes, best one I’ve heard so far. Would love to see the side by side comparison.

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 4, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tonights splits vs Maddux

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=1800

Blanco hitting .375! Does he get a start here?

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 10:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oooh.

Don’t see why not. Soto can always come in off the bench if needed.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet he Hank White

won’t start because Soto already had Monday off. If I were the skip I would but I’m not, instead I’m an insurance producer, real sexy.

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on Jun 4, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

show me your

tax rates!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

Besides, even though we all love Mad Dog, here’s hoping Blanco doesn’t even need to come in. Blow him out…I don’t need another 9th nail-biter.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm so tired of going to bed...

with a decent lead and waking up to see there was an 8th or 9th inning scare….although we won by a good margin I know we can’t give up these kinds of innings down the stretch to good hitting ball clubs. BUT a win is a win and i can’t complain about 9 in a row!

by SoTxCub on Jun 4, 2008 10:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I really try hard

to like Marquis but I can’t. I don’t know what they can do as it seems we are stuck with him. Maybe Jim will be able to work a miracle some how.

Looking forward to tonight’s game.

by sue369 on Jun 4, 2008 11:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll say this about Marquis....

he competes! His control issues can be maddening, but it seems like in the time I’ve watched him the last couple years, he busts his hump to compete--kinda like littlle Z with mediocre stuff. He hits and runs the bases hard…..when his control is there, he’s a good #5. Lou apparently disagrees! ;c)

BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"

by cubfever7 on Jun 4, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he is a battler...

...but he wouldn’t need to battle so much if he was a better pitcher.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did anyone else hear the Richard Cranium SD annoucer.....

...last night when after a couple of deep fly outs early in the game, they seemed to smarmily say…”welcome to Petco”...this ain’t no Wrigley Field….after Soto and DeRosa went deep i prayed for thier cell#’s so I could say..”welcome to a team that has more than one hitter”

Dipsticks….too bad they were getting drowned out by “Let’s Go Cubbies” and thunderous applause when we scored.

BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"

by cubfever7 on Jun 4, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but check out the Padres' GasLampBall blog..here's what they write:
Old wisdom: It’s IMPOSSIBLE! to hit homeruns at Petco Park.

New wisdom: Petco Park is the new Wrigley Field. (As long as you have guys that can actually hit homers in your lineup.)

See it here:

http://www.gaslampball.com/

by zevkalman on Jun 4, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

check out the poll

for last night’s Game thread! Title: “Who’s to Blame for This?”

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OR check out the "5 ways to send the Cubbies Off Right"

Including such things as having Bartman throw out the first pitch at a game, wearing out the Garvey homerun video/audio, having a Petco Goat Day, etc.

by zevkalman on Jun 4, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Explain what "Richard Cranium"

means….are you referring to Matt Vasgergian or Mark Grant. Sorry, I’m old.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 4, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Think of the nickname for Richard and synonym for cranium...

...i believe in spanish it would be cabeza. I’m probably older (1954), but I’m not sure which annoucer-they have two annoucers I like and two I don’t….I think the guy named Al is the guy who REALLY annoys me..Jerry Coleman is ok by me-the guys I refer to last night were doing the MLB.TV broadcast, so I assume that’s their local tv team….Mark Grant seemed fine if he’s the analsyt-tI think it was the play by play-who honeslty for the most part was fine—that one instance was sort of tool-sey of him.

The play by play radio guy is easily the most annoying i’ve heard in any sport at any level. My mother-in-law would be more enjoyable.

BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"

by cubfever7 on Jun 4, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ted Leitner may be who you are referring to on radio

Andy Masur is the third man in the booth….as you know, he was doing 1 inning of Cubs baseball on WGN for many years when Pat Hughes needed a batroom break.

The ancient Jerry Coleman isn’t around as much. Mostly home games….

Matt Vasgergian, the tool—is the main pbp guy on TV.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 4, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

problem is

his control isn’t there.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Hendry

could get rid of Todd Hundley, I am sure he can get rid of Marquis.

"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Jun 4, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To bad Dave Littlefield isn't around..

..for Jim Hendry to fleece. I STILL can’t believe what Littlefield was thinking when he picked up Matt Morris and ALL of the money he was owed on this contract!

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Jun 4, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im putting the over/under

for this thread at 550, before the game thread

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 4, 2008 11:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Over.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oooooh...good number..

I do like a good wager now and then….I say under. I’ll bet a beer to all those that say over. I should be at the Sox games, so you can pay me then suckers!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 4, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha

You cant win. If I want the beer Ill post over

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 4, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and over

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 4, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

again

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 4, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I keed I keed

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 4, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL..

Damn…I knew I should have put in a one post per person rule:)

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 4, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can't win, Bump.

If you guess under we will post over and over and become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Your powers are weak..:)

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 4, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the posts you try to suppress

the more posts will slip through your fingers.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

250+ comments by 11:30 Chicago time?

Man, I can’t keep up with this site anymore.

"Let's not get too giggly." ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jun 4, 2008 11:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It was just supposed to be a fun little fan site.

Then they started winning. That’s when things changed.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed

I’d be worried about a troll invasion too, closer to playoffs is the Cubs are still contenders, not just a rise in normal traffic. I remember in 2003-2004 the Cubs usenet newsgroup (message board) was inundated – although that is an unmoderated forum.

"Let's not get too giggly." ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jun 4, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou

I am surprised at how often Lou rips his players (pitcher usually) on the field and in front of cameras. I’m not saying it’s a bad because I usually am feeling the same anger he is but it happens a lot.

Thoughts?

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on Jun 4, 2008 11:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You have to give the Gaslamp kids

credit—while about 75% of the chatter has nothing to do with baseball, with a rather curious obsession about a naked Brian Giles, they’ve been able to draw more traffic than ever to their site, in a down year.

On the other hand, “True Blue LA” with a Dodgers fan base… 75x that of the Padres…

— crickets -—-

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 4, 2008 11:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I have a different take on the strating pitching question

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see two of our three “stockpiled” lefty starters turn it around and make solid contributions once again. I think the key is middle relief—if two guys from the group of Wuertz, Lieber, Cotts, Ascanio, Hart , (or outsider) could become dependable in innings 6&7 before getting to Howrey, Marmol, and Wood, then maybe the question becomes moot?

by leothelip on Jun 4, 2008 11:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

starting, sorry

by leothelip on Jun 4, 2008 11:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I do not understand Rich Hill.

I really don’t. He’s like friggin’ Rex Grossman. Someone explain it to me, please.

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 4, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Different situations...

With Grossman, it’s that he’s undersized, slow, and can’t read a blitz. When he has time to sit back in the pocket, he’s fine. When the blitz gets anywhere near him, he freaks out.

With Hill, it’s a command thing. When he can command his fastball and his curveball, he’s very very tough. When he can’t he’s in trouble, because his fastball is only 90-92 with little movement and he doesn’t have a good third pitch.

There may also be confidence issues with him which affect his command. With Grossman, I don’t think it’s an issue of confidence – it’s more an issue of not understanding your limitations and not being able to read a defense.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I'm wondering...

Is it one or the other or BOTH? If it’s confidence, then I DEFINITELY don’t get it. Give the damn guy some friggin’ Xanax – lol. I watched Zambrano go from not being able to do CRAP with his fastball the other night and, after a quick talking to, starting mixing in other pitches, got his head together and was able to at least LAST 5 IP and get the win. Hill was SO good when he was on – it just f’n baffles me he can’t even get AAA hitting out now… (sigh)

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 4, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Confidence is a tricky thing...

Especially when you’re so dependent upon command. Zambrano has an advantage in that he throws extremely hard with a lot of movement. He knows that if he hits his spots, people can’t touch him, and even if he misses a little, he’s tough to beat. Hill doesn’t have that luxury. He has less margin for error.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that's also part of why

Dempster has been able to do so well. He doesn’t throw as hard as Z, but he has a TON of movement on EVERY pitch.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly!

If he can’t locate that 90 (or less if i recall) mph fastball and gets behind—hitters wait out his curve and then make him throw behind on the count get me over cookie and it’s go time.

As Greg Maddux says-the best pitch in baseball is a located fastball-even if it’s not a great heater.

BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"

by cubfever7 on Jun 4, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill

I think Eyre may have given us an insight to Hill’s problem. I have made a post a while back about how the public in general for some odd reason think that professional athletes are immune to pressure. Anyway Eyre said that last year he was intimidated by Sweet Lou to the point where he tried to be perfect in every outing, that didn’t work. This year Scott has allowed himself to relax a little more and realized he will not be perfect.

Back to Hill, he is probably intimidated by Sweet Lou and it has gotten into his head, now he can’t compete at the MLB level. If Hill were on the hill (pun intended) last night when Lou was barking at Marquis he would have probably soiled his pants.

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on Jun 4, 2008 12:27 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Would the Cubs trade Rich Hill?

When talking about getting a top of the line starter, I wonder if the Cubs’ biggest trade chip is Rich Hill and whether or not the Cubs would trade him. So, the questions are:
1) How much trade value do you think Hill has?
2) Would you trade Hill for a 1/2 year rental?

For my part, I see no point in trading for a 3/4 starter. If we’re going to trade for a starter it needs to be a shut-down type guy.

by DGU on Jun 4, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with your last paragraph...

I’m just not sure where Hill’s trade value is.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you have a flux compasitor

And go back in time to 2005: Rich Hill’s trade value is A+

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Am I reading this right?

When we sent Rich Hill down this year, he was 1-0 with a 4.12 ERA? Somehow I guess I thought it was worse. Still, 18 BBs in 19 IP…

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 4, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marquis hasn't been any better..

but he’s being paid so much $ (thanks Jim) that they kinda have to keep him for now.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 4, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep -

Hill’s ERA was right at his career norm, but his WHIP (1.576) was sky-high and that didn’t bode well for Hill being able to keep his ERA low.

by DGU on Jun 4, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe he also missed some time in AAA with back or neck spasms?

Maybe that was the root of his control issue.

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad I can't go back in time and fix that.

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With Hill, you have a pitcher who will be under another team's control

for what three more years? I think Hill could pitch well in Cleveland’s home park, so is it inconceivable that he might even be worth Sabathia straight up?

by DGU on Jun 4, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, for me the question is more about Hill than CC, so

replace Sabathia with A.J Burnett’s name. Would you do that deal? Would Toronto?

by DGU on Jun 4, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope we don't have to answer that...

The only reason to trade Hill is if you don’t think he can get his command harnessed. If he can, then I don’t think it’s a smart trade for the Cubs, as I think he has #2 starter stuff when he’s on. If he doesn’t get it back, then he has less trade value.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Straight up?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 4, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL - and I agree.

“You keep using that word…. I do not think it means what you think it means…” – :)

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 4, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, what do you think Hill's value is?

For some teams a young pitcher under their control for several more years, who strikes out nearly a batter per inning is as valuable as it gets.

by DGU on Jun 4, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has value...

but it’s not equivalent to a 28 yr old CY Winner still in the prime of his career. Sorry.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 4, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If this was one-year fantasy BB, straight up, of course, I want CC.

The question is – to Cleveland, is Hill’s next 3 years (am I right about that figure) worth more than half a year of CC? Are they going to get a better package for CC than Hill?

by DGU on Jun 4, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For just Rich Hill...probably.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 4, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If his presence in that 1/2 year will

bring us closer to a WS than it would Hill, then I’ll start packing Rich’s bags for him.

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on Jun 4, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And he can't even beat out Marquis for a rotation spot.

OK…

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou says: "Nice job!"

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou says--"who stole my dip?"

BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"

by cubfever7 on Jun 4, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou says

hmmm… feels like chicken.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jealous, ladies?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, what's wrong?

Soto’s 18.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou says--"dang these West coast road trips are long."

BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"

by cubfever7 on Jun 4, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou says

“Geo, you got a purty mouf.”

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou says--

“does this resemble a modified Heisman pose?”

BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"

by cubfever7 on Jun 4, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

An example of Lou's cryptic new signs for Quade and Sinatro

BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"

by cubfever7 on Jun 4, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This one is the suicude squeeze

BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"

by cubfever7 on Jun 4, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hit and RUN

not hit and bum!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO

Is that from “Deliverance”?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 4, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sumpin like

that.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like I said, I don't really know his value...

I doubt that, right now, Hill could be traded straight up for Sabathia, even given the financial advantages. Sabathia is just so much more proven. But, again, I don’t really know.

As an aside – with Hill’s penchant for giving up the HR, I don’t think Cleveland is a good park for him.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's turn this around a little.

Rank these pitchers by value for a ML team.

Pitcher A: Age 28
Career WHIP 1.268
Career K rate .92
Contract status: not yet arb eligible
Injury status: only on DL once, for minor back pains

Pitcher B: Age 26
Career WHIP 1.259
Career K rate .95
Contract status: 4.5 M this year, 7 M option for next year
Injury status: Never pitched over 190 innings; only over 100 innings 2xs; been on DL each year for past 4 years

Pitcher C: Age 31
Career WHIP 1.281
Career K rate .91
Contract Status: 12 M this year, 24 M over next two years or opt out at end of this year
Injury Status: Only pitcher over 175 IP 2xs in career and 1x in past 5 years

Pitcher D: Age 27
Career WHIP 1.273
Career K rate .82
Contract Status: In his contract year
Injury Status: Pitched over 175 IP the past 7 straight years

Pitcher E: Age 25
Career WHIP 1.385
Career K rate .82
Contract Status: 8.5 M this year, 12.5 M each next two years
Injury Status: nicked up here and there, but 160+ IP for all 5 years of career

Pitcher F: Age 27
Career WHIP 1.321
Career K rate .57
Contract Status: 3.7 M this year, just over 3 years of service time
Injury Status: Over 175 IP the past three years, basically every year of his career

by DGU on Jun 4, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For a mid-season rental. D#1... C#2

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure I see your point...

the question isn’t what they’ve done to this point. The question is trade value. Pitcher A (Rich Hill) has great potential and was really good last year, but he’s lost command of the strike zone. We don’t know if he’ll return to being that guy whose stats you’ve listed.

I wouldn’t trade Hill for Burnett if I know Hill is going to bounce back to the guy he was last year and late in 2006. But what if he doesn’t return? GMs probably consider that as well as the career track record.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not making a point.

I’m legitimately asking because I don’t know what Hill’s value is, although I tend to think it is higher than some of the trade targets listed. In other words, compare Bonderman and Hill – there’s “upside” to Bonderman we think and might trade for him, but if Rich Hill was on the trade market, wouldn’t we want Hill a whole lot more than we want Bonderman?

by DGU on Jun 4, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The key distinction...

is how people view past performance compared to future success. Hill has had very nice success for a very brief period of time. He’s also currently struggling to regain command of the strikezone, and looked TERRIBLE early this year.

You’re presenting these data in a vacuum. There’s little context for the duration of success and current status.

I also don’t know what Hill’s value is, but it’s certainly not fully obtainable based on the very limited picture you present in your post.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, sure.

When listing a half dozen pitchers, I’m not going to list every available stat, but career WHIP and K rate aren’t bad stats to use and none of these guys have dinky sample sizes. With Hill, of course, there’s the fact that his career is currently bookended by obscene WHIPs. We all are very aware of the case against Hill. I’m trying to put up the case for him, trying to imagine what I might think about him if he was on another team and I was looking for potential 1/2s. Would Hill be a trade target?

by DGU on Jun 4, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill has a dinky sample size...

that was my point in the previous thread, and it is why the bookend WHIP problems are a concern. It’s not like he has 3-4 years of pitching really well like Sabathia or 4-5 years of pitching solidly like Burnett.

Honestly, I think it’s a fruitless exercise, because it comes down to whether or not the GMs think they can harness Hill’s stuff and get him to be like he was last year and late-2006.

Like Harden, who has the best stuff of the bunch but is probably a week away from another DL stint as we speak, it’s a complete unknown what Hill’s trade value will be.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill's Sample Size isn't dinky; it's not robust,

but it’s not dinky. He’s got a season and a half of 4.00 ERA under his belt at the ML level and another two good seasons in the minors. He’s got the stuff that says his performance isn’t flukish. He’s also got a clear problem. It’s possible we won’t be able to figure out his trade value, but it’s still more worth talking about, I think, than in repeating an old debate that can get restarted with two (or four) words that have been posted a dozen and a half times.

by DGU on Jun 4, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough - semantics...

I just see Hill as a big question mark, and thus gauging his trade value is difficult. It’s sort of similar to Harden, although for completely different reasons. With Harden, you know what you get as long as he’s healthy. You just don’t know how long he’ll be healthy. With Hill, you just don’t know what you’re going to get. So projecting trade value is going to be all in the eye of the beholder, and how willing to gamble the GM is.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So who are these letter people?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A: Rich Hill
B: Rich Harden
C: A.J. Burnett
D: C.C. Sabathia
E: Jeremy Bonderman
F: Joe Blanton

by DGU on Jun 4, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would take a perfect storm for Cleveland to trade CC

A. They’d have to be out of contention come trading deadline
B. They’d have to be convinced they’re not going to be able to re-sign him
C. They’d have to be overwhelmed with a trade offer.

Right now, my odds on each of those happening would be 15%, 50% and 20% respectively. Don’t quote me on the math, but that means I’d put the probability of a trade actually happening to be about 1.5%. Now the Bulls beat similar odds so anything is possible, but please don’t hold your breath.

I think Cleveland is perfectly content with riding CC to the end even if they don’t re-sign him. They would much rather grow their own prospects via those compensation picks than try to make some other team’s prospects work.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 4, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with what you write here.

So, let’s set aside Sabathia. What about the other names Al listed? Are there any we think is an actual improvement on Rich Hill? And if not, then who do we put on the table for them?

by DGU on Jun 4, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It all depends...

if Hill finds his command, I’d take him over trading for any of those other guys, for various reasons (some due to price, some due to injury risk, some due to the fact that they aren’t as good, some due to multiple reasons). If he doesn’t, he’s not worth much at all. Without the answer to that question, it’s a big gamble.

As such, I have no idea what his trade value is. If a team thinks they can get him back on track, then he probably has decent trade value. If teams are scared by the fact that he can go for long stretches with a WHIP over 1.5, then they aren’t going to offer much.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if Hill finds his command

but how long do we wait?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although there are some pitchers I might trade Hill for

I’d generally like to give him all year, because it honestly won’t matter much if Hill has no command through August, but finds it for the fall. That’s all we’d need him for.

That said, there is a legitimate question about whether or not Hill’s mentality is incompatible with Lou’s coaching style. If Cubs management thinks that’s the problem, then it’s not worth holding on to him at all.

by DGU on Jun 4, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least until close to the deadline...

Beyond that, it all depends (again). We obviously wait until close to the deadline, as that’s when teams might make a move. And then, it depends on what is reasonably available to us and what teams might want for Hill.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

AND........... The Bulls still don't have a coach....

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Flip?

maybe he’s their guy…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 4, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You would think that after firing their coach on X-mas....

they would have figured this thing out already.

WHAT A COMPLETE EMBARRASSMENT

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That reminds me...

Steve Kerr was sitting down on the field-level “box seats” last night…and there were a couple drunk Padre fans hassling him most of the night. David Wells was also sitting down there next to the Cubs Dugout…the Padres could maybe use him for the 2nd half…lol.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 4, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2nd half?

Of what, the clubhouse spread?
To hold down the 2nd half of the infield tarp?

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was Kerr cheering for the cubs?

Or does he have some sort of connection w/ either team?

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on Jun 4, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't really tell...

I assume he as rooting for the Cubs…but I didn’t really pay too much attention to him.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 4, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wells has never been a 'half' of anything...

well, maybe a half-ton pickup…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 4, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not too excited about ANY of the options...

Still seems like Collins is going to be the guy, though, right? All of them have flaws:

Johnson: has consistently been outcoached in the playoffs
Collins: old and similar to Skiles
The rest: unproven or not very good

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, so David Wells or Jason Marquis?

????

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 4, 2008 1:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

For a hot dog eating contest?

Wells…..though Marquis would only participate if they were Kosher

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 4, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hebrew Nationals, baby!

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those are quite tastsy..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 4, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Concur.

Though, I think Bests Kosher are better, plus are served at Wrigley.

mmmmm, Bests Kosher. I gotta get some of those frozen and sent up to me by my family. screw customs!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jun 4, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I make those at home sometimes

But they always taste better at the ballpark.

by salparadise23 on Jun 4, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't everything?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How to guarantee a win

Al, try this:

1) Walk into the restroom during the 4th inning of a home game, holding a tomato slice in your teeth, and bring your scorecard
2) FALL ASLEEP in the restroom, allowing the tomato slice to fall on the scorecard
3) ???
4) Profit!

by jcg996 on Jun 4, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sounds like a winner.

but won’t they eventually kick him out of the restaurant?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most likely

he’d run into Larry Craig.

by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 4, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correct me if I'm wrong...

but if I kill all the golfers, they’re gonna lock me up and throw away the key.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not golfers balls... GOPHER BALLS!!!

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 4, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Question Al,

For a few after game posts you had the score in the title. I liked that but the last few games you omitted the score. Any reason?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by tucsoncubsfan on Jun 4, 2008 1:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Because I forgot.

I’ll try to remember.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You see what sleep deprivation does, people?!

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huge Dilemma

AFN will show tonight’s game live over here in London… do I wake up at 3am to watch? Do I wake up at 5am and see if it’s over yet? Do I do what I did the past 2 games of the road trip and wake up at 6:45 as usual and see if we won?

For the record, I do believe in streaks, and I watched the saturday afternoon game live on AFN so we have won during this streak with me watching, just not on this road trip…

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jun 4, 2008 2:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

More dilemmas...

Tomorrow’s game will also be live at 3am. Obviously, whatever I do tonight will be the same tomorrow night if the result is good.

Moving on to saturday afternoons game: the game will be shown, but tape-delayed until noon on sunday (5am chicago time). Do I follow the game live on saturday night or wait to watch the delay?

Just in case anyone cares, Sunday’s game will be live at 1am monday over here. Why do I get such a streak of televised games during the west coast trip, but not during the wrigley afternoon games?

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jun 4, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Videotape is your friend.

Watch it later in the day. It’ll already be over. Nothing your superstition can do. Unless you believe your delayed viewing will rip a hole in the fabric of space/time. In which case, you have far bigger problems to deal with.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two problems

No video recorder, and I strongly believe delayed viewing of SPORTS does indeed rip a hole in the fabric of space/time.

Plus, I can’t control myself enough to not check the score online first.

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jun 4, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure

the same streak-rules apply over seas. You may be allowed to mix it up and just do whatever you feel like it.

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 4, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you have a guidebook or something saying this?

Streaks are too risky to risk taking this on someones word!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jun 4, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW

When I’m in Shanghai and they play a day game, I get up at the same time (4 PM Central) . . . sometimes I catch the end of the game, sometimes not. It might be different if it were September, but for June, I wouldn’t get up at 3.

I have been staying up to 12 for these games, but that’s a lot easier.

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 4, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He can't be

Shanghai is 7 hours ahead of me here in the UK… so these west coast games would start at 10am his time… if they start at midnight for him, that would mean he’s in the middle of the atlantic ocean somewhere. so well, yeah, i’m confused myself.

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jun 4, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed

I am often in Shanghai, but not right now. Too damn hot in the summer to be there . . . and humid.

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 4, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That makes a little more sense!

My brain cells were throwing an old fashioned “does not compute, will self implode” at me.

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jun 4, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and when I am out there

I don’t mind the west coast games, but they overlap lunch… AZ/COL night games are perfect.

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 4, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

update music: Micah Meltdown

In the bottom of the 3rd Micah gives up 4 ER on 5 singles, a double and a sac fly to the Brewers as they now trail 4-1. BTW, Micah is batting 8th in the order. A loss and AZ will have the same record as the Brewers. So much for being the best team in the NL. Staying power baby, the Cubs have it!

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 4, 2008 2:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

5-1 actually

would be nice to see them lose a game or two

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 4, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

so much for being the update guy too

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 4, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah, well.

you can update when AZ scores 8 in the 6th. I hope.

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 4, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Frickin' good for nuthin' D-Backs.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no kiddin'

I still have confidence in the Cubs, but I find this run a little unnerving.

Of course, they still have McClung and Bush in the rotation—and Yost at the helm.

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 4, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

starters

Hard to believe we’re on a 9-game win streak when the starters haven’t been able to get past the 6th inning about five games in a row.

"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979

by danimal15 on Jun 4, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Two words.

Rich Harden. Do it.

Get Rich Harden !! 7 starts, 3-0, 41 IP, 49 Ks, 2.61 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 4, 2008 2:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Last post.

Don’t even dignify this.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

More words

Trade. Felix Pie, Tony Thomas and Oakland’s pick of Rich Hill or Sean Marshall. This team has SCREAMING need for a primetime starting pitcher who can form a lethal 1-2 punch with Zambrano. 2008 is the year of the Cubs. Pull out ALL the stops baby.

Get Rich Harden !! 7 starts, 3-0, 41 IP, 49 Ks, 2.61 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 4, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yawn.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 4, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Word

I like this much better. I feel so street.

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What'd I miss?

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well some people were confused by the +1 comment so I chose WORD

OH and MDBNIU served up his daily vomit -er I mean chorus - of Get Harden

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about

Trust Jim and Lou, sit back, enjoy the ride?

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jun 4, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+2

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But

It cant happen. Marshall is a two pitch loser and Pi e is a AAAA player. Why would Billy Beane do this? Youve already told us they suck…............tool

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 4, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love this brand of thinking.

1) We have players that suck.
2) Other teams have players that don’t suck.
3) ...
4) Trade them!

by cwyers on Jun 4, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, OK, OK...

Tyler Colvin, Tony Thomas, Jeff Smardizija and Oakland’s pick of Sean Marshall or Rich Hill.

Get Rich Harden !! 7 starts, 3-0, 41 IP, 49 Ks, 2.61 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 4, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But

You love Tyler Colvin?

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 4, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why don't we just throw in...

Sec Taylor Stadium, Jackie Robinson Ballpark, O’Brien Field, Memorial Stadium and Fitch Park, too? Hell, we won’t need ‘em anymore!

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sheffield? sure, no problem. Save me the time and effort of running over there for Fontenot... ;-)

But NFW on Waveland. I’ll chain myself to the fire hydrant before I let that happen…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 4, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cause the Shark

is unstoppable?

Give me a break. We don’t have the parts to trade without giving away the farm. AND WE DON’T NEED IT ANYWAY. What part of nine-game winning streak do you not understand?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lets trade the Shark

after giving him what 10 million to pitch in Tennessee?

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 4, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m happy to offer Laraine Day

by leothelip on Jun 4, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Say, you might be onto somethin' there

Get Rich Harden !! 7 starts, 3-0, 41 IP, 49 Ks, 2.61 ERA

by MDBNIU on Jun 4, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right

Im onto to you Ronnie Woo Woo. Thats because you are constantly repeating and contradicting. Why would you advocate a trade for people you already claimed sucked? Next youll throw in Marquis.

BlueMike “Cubs WOO, Marshall WOO, Pie WOO, Harden WOO” Yawn

Thanks Ronnie

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 4, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's trade for SANTANA!

WHOO-HOO!

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 4, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, who's Rich Harden?

Never heard of him.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Check the injury report

His last 4 seasons, including this one, have totaled about 150 innings.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 4, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Fact: Rich Harden is the United States’ number three importer of textiles, behind Linens ‘N’ Things and Mark Prior.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is amazing, especially considering he's Canadian.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, maybe he exports them too. You know, he's an importer/exporter

and he works for Van de Lay Industries in the offseason….

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 4, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And he's also an architect..

Have you seen the new addition to the Guggenheim? Really didn’t take very long…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 4, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marine biologist on the side.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Y'know what? This isn't a political campaign.

You’re not going to win over new voters by constantly repeating your message. We all know you want Rich Harden. It’s in your damn sig line. Now please stop cluttering up our discussions with it.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it should be a political campaign

At some point, he’d officially lose.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vote Blue Mike for President!!!

He was for Soriano before he was against Soriano

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 4, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's fishing. That's all he does.

When he posts ONE LINE about Rich Bloody Harden we all can do one real easy thing: DON’T REPLY.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doctor, it hurts when I do this!

“Then don’t do it”

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

aren't you supposed to be

in a fetal position, rocking back and forth over your angst over Soriano’s All-star performances?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or the fact that he has more RBIs

in 60+ less at bats the DLEE? BATTING LEADOFF!!!!!

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 4, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Knock, Knock.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You guys have something against Knock Knock jokes?

KNOCK, KNOCK!

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who's there?

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jun 4, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interrupting BlueMike

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

RICH HARDEN!

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rich Harden who?

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jun 4, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never mind.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not a very good

knock knock joke then

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jun 4, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You missed the "Interrupting BlueMike"

You know, like:
Knock Knock
Who’s there?
Interrupting Cow.
Interrupting C..
MOO!

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha, I like that one.

I’m going to tell it to my daughter tonight.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys are all NUTS. You KNOW who we need back...

...and are just too afraid to ADMIT IT.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/bowiemi01.shtml

HE WILL PUT US OVER THE TOP!!!

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 4, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Imagine if Micah Bowie, Micah Hoffpauier and Micah Owings all played in the same game.

That’d be a whole lotta Micah.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There have been only four players named "Micah" in major league history.

Those three and Micah Franklin.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deep Goat=

Ed Hartig?

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow - four micahs

suddenly i have this urge to redo my kitchen counters…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 4, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

one, two, three, four

Micah’s…

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That joke is solid!

And so easy to clean!

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was afraid that was going to link to Neifi.

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jun 4, 2008 2:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Neifi

is the hole in space/time.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TNWSS

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on Jun 4, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was based on pitching and prayers...

and then the pitching got hurt again. And Nomar got hurt again.

In fairness, there was no reason to assume Patterson would completely fall off the map. He had been strong in 2003 and okay in 2004. He just fell off the map in 2005. And if Nomar stays healthy, Perez is the backup middle-IF. And we expected Wood and Prior to return to form (that was year one of the catastrophe of relying on those guys).

It really wasn’t unreasonable if you consider that the lineup and rotation were theoretically as good as the 2003 team before the injuries piled up.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to take

a little nap so I will be ready for the game tonight. These late nights are catching up with me. WGN tonight so most will be able to watch.

by sue369 on Jun 4, 2008 3:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I made it till midnight last night

but my wife was, ah, not happy. I’ll probably going to watch till 11.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i make it to 1030

I have gotten up to use the washroom the last two nights around the time Al is getting to work. I check the score on my phone.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 4, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, WGN!

I am ecstatic for some Cubbie baseball tonight. I would love to see every game, but being limited makes the ones I get to see that much better. Plus, get to see three of the four in the Dodger series.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you have regular or digital cable?

I have digital and it’s offered. Very seriously considering ordering it after the break (cos I believe it goes down in price then).

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the bet

So if our boys in blue win ten in a row, Len and Bob are switching facial hair.

... egad.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 3:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not a good look for Len.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Word

sorry Bama, i like this better than +1 too

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 4, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey I hope it catches on!

We’ll all be the hippest blogsite on the web. LOL

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

word. :P

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

See? It's great.

I need to go buy some bling.

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

do we need

a gang sign?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chi Town Represent!!!

OK maybe that’s too much

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe

a gold toof.

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 4, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

/rolls eyes

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 4, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didnt Len say he couldnt grow one?

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 4, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, TWSS.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he said he'd have a shadow

and that Bob’s would grow back before he could get anywhere.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The curse of facial hair ineptitude.

I know his pain.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that your own PS?

B/c I don’t remember seeing the goatee last night on TV…or maybe they came up w/ a few variations. Either way, hilarious.

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on Jun 4, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, actually

it’s from Len & Bob’s blog.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So...

this is true?

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's true that they've promised to do it

if the Cubs win tonight.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

GO CUBS!!!

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yikes...

Len looks like the kind of guy your parents are supposed to protect you from.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bwawawaw

haha nice

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 4, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, he looks like a programmer.

Well, ok, I grant your point…

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's a photoshop challenge for another day...

Give Len some really really poofy floppy hair and I’d bet he’d be a ringer for Conan O’Brien.

And keep Bob cleanshaven, but add a well-worn leather hat and a whip and I’m thinking we got ourselves Indiana Brenly and the Lost Trophy of Doom.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 4, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember when...

Lou died his hair in Tampa Bay after only a 3 GAME WINNING STREAK

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on Jun 4, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In case you don't...This is him getting all Purrrrddy

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on Jun 4, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I grew up thinking

Eight WAS enough

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 4, 2008 3:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We are getting close to the 550 over under target

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 4, 2008 3:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yep

only 52 more to go

by Emelie on Jun 4, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

51

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 4, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, it's done.

Get that free beer ready.

"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08

by neverAcquiesce on Jun 4, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just strolled over

to GLB and it turns out that Padre fans don’t like the Cubs very much. Hard to blame them being the low man on the totem pole but wow.

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 4, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sore losers.

When the Padres beat the Cubs earlier, I didn’t call the quality of their fans into question.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When your team is playing as well as ours is

the only option the opponents have is to pick on their fans. We just happen to be a visible and annoying target for opponents because we always show up to their parks in numbers greater than their own.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 4, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The volume of Cub fans scattered around the US is amazing

I was at a Dodger game in LA in about ‘88 or so (Dawson hit one out for us that day) and it seemed like close to 50% Cub fans.

When the Cubs clinched on the road in ‘84 and I think ‘89 as well-there were tons of Cub fans. (last year in cincy was off the hook-i was there for it—with tickets I’d purchased in March for my B-day).

But how much of what we see now is the sort of cultural phenomenen the Cubs have become versus real fans who bleed blue?

BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"

by cubfever7 on Jun 4, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately the Cubs have to deal with some folks who aren't what they appear

I’ve seen posts here a lot about the “Wrigley gawkers” who only come because it’s a “cute thing to do”. These are the idiots that get wasted and run on the field.

I had to deal with some of these folks in Atlanta last year. They wear the Cubs gear but are about as close to real fans as MDBNIU is to coherence.

I’ll just assume that THOSE were the people the Fathers faithful were bitching about.

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Join in the fun...

...on this thread!

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, read your comments.

Awesome!

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on Jun 4, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't join in the fun

but I did like your response to them. A few are quite hateful.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by tucsoncubsfan on Jun 4, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it ain't worth it.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I'm not gonna spend all night arguing with these geniuses...

...but I don’t think it hurts to burst their bubble once in a while.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, it's not going to change their minds

and reading the stuff is only going to aggrivate you

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 4, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, which is why I'm really not planning on spending much more time on it.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my spelling

should also aggravate . . .

I didn’t think that looked right when I typed it. Oh, well—one more post. Gives me an excuse to raise the total.

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 4, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

My approach is: I don’t go to other team’s blogs looking to start trouble. But if they’re saying crazy, inflammatory sh*t like that, I will throw it back in their faces. Of course, I got banned from the Evil BCB for this very practice.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lesson not learned

:D

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 4, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Evil BCB???

"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."

by BMoney79 on Jun 4, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes...

...the Evil BCB.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy S***

Nice picture. Real class

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's pretty brutal

"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."

by BMoney79 on Jun 4, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Word

that IS evil

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 4, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, I'm tellin' ya...

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My first post on BCB!
So let me get this straight. The guy in the picture kills the seals.

Who feeds them all to Prince? Vegetarian his great big ass.

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe he eats

a lot of bananas and asparagus in butter and avocados. Avocados are FULL of fat and cholesterol.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but the good kind of fat

And still. Does he eat them by the damn bushel basket?

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

even the "good" kind of fat

is bad if you eat too much of it.

And you can eat tons of peanut butter and still be a vegetarian and still be fat. Hell, you can eat DORITOS and be a vegetarian, no?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure lint

is technically vegetarian.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO.

Expect to be banned within the hour.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you run into a little weasel named Jacob...

...just give it to him with both barrels.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They took down my post!!!

OK now I’m really mad.

I’m going to send prince fielder some tofu cooked in beef fat

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not surprising.

They’re a sensitive bunch. Their feelings, so easily hurt.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, okay

I get it now.

"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."

by BMoney79 on Jun 4, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 4, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jun 4, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs