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Eight Is Not Enough...

... so the Cubs made it nine wins in a row with a 9-6 win over the Padres.

First, my thanks to BCB reader GoCubbies34, who posted the two overflow comment threads last night after -- well, I could make excuses, but I just forgot.

And second, BCB reader jhj posted, two days ago, this FanPost asking people for their superstitions -- and as you likely know, baseball players have a ton of 'em, and they usually get more intense during winning streaks. I have talked about going to the men's room three days in a row during the last homestand, after which the Cubs came from behind to win all three days. And I think I've got another one going during this road trip -- each of the last two nights, I have gone to sleep after the fourth inning, with the Cubs either tied or trailing, just knowing they were going to win.

Now, tomorrow I am off work and could stay up tonight. So I'll leave it up to you guys -- should I? Or should I do the fourth-inning thing again? And if it happens again, do I carry it on to the game in LA on Thursday night (since I am off on Friday also)?

Such are the things we can talk about during this streak, now the Cubs' longest since 2001. Despite Jason Marquis' strange meltdowns last night (balking with the pitcher on base? Making a throwing error two batters later trying to pick off Jody Gerut, allowing said pitcher to score?), he managed to muddle, again, through five innings allowing only three runs to score, and when Geovany Soto and Mark DeRosa homered off former Cub minor leaguer Bryan Corey in the sixth, Marquis wound up with the win.

The way this team is winning may have been expressed best by another ex-Cub, Michael Barrett, in this AP game recap:

"The biggest thing about that lineup is that they really forced us to come to them," said Padres catcher Michael Barrett. "You don’t see them making too many quick outs."

What a difference, right? You wouldn't see that kind of thing from previous Cub teams, but this one works counts (six walks last night) and when you do that, you increase the chances that the other pitcher is going to make a mistake.

Other notes from what I didn't see: Alfonso Soriano homered again; after a somewhat slow period, maybe he's heating up again; the Cubs stole six bases off Michael Barrett last night (even though Ronny Cedeno briefly reverted to his pre-ONEDEC days and overslid second base for the only CS of the night); and boy, I sure am glad the Cubs recalled Kevin Hart to be their 13th pitcher, because he was so effective last night . Lou has got to manage this bullpen better -- last night, three of the five relievers faced two batters (Michael Wuertz, Bob Howry) or one batter (Neal Cotts). It's bad enough we have LOOGYs, now we're having ROOGYs?

These are all minor complaints, as is the complaint that the starting pitching has to, just HAS TO, get better if this team is to continue its amazing run. Even the noted curmudgeon Jay Mariotti is turning into a believer; he suggests, as some of you have already, that the Cubs inquire about C. C. Sabathia:

The ultimate prize would be C.C. Sabathia, who is Zambrano's equal in girth and talent. Could you imagine those two arms in October? For a trade to possibly go down, the Cleveland Indians have to fall out of the American League Central race, which won't happen as long as the White Sox have old men and stragglers in the middle of the order and Ozzie Guillen keeps getting the red Oz. Hendry has plenty of young talent to offer next month, including Gallagher and Sean Marshall. If Sabathia isn't available, the likes of Daniel Cabrera, Joe Blanton, Rich Harden, Jeremy Bonderman and Jarrod Washburn might be.

I hesitate to post that because the name "Rich Harden" is in there, which might give a certain poster here a, um, "Harden" yet again, but the one name that's in that paragraph that intrigues me most is "Jeremy Bonderman". Like a lot of his Tiger teammates, he's off to a mediocre start -- but at age 25, he's got enough upside that a deal to a team in first place might energize him. (And no, Jay, Sean Gallagher isn't the guy I'd ship away.)

Onward and upward. Check out the "Best Cub Team Starts Since 1900" box on the right sidebar -- this team is moving up that list.

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Please please!

by Arbusto on Jun 4, 2008 8:21 AM CDT   0 recs

lol

2nd

All things great in 2008!!

by By Santo's Grace on Jun 4, 2008 8:22 AM CDT   0 recs

this team....

Is something very special as has said very many time before on here. I just love the resilency that this team has. No matter who it is I truly I have complete confidence when they come to the plate in a key situation that they are going to come through!!

All things great in 2008!!

All things great in 2008!!

by By Santo's Grace on Jun 4, 2008 8:25 AM CDT   0 recs

LOL LOL.....

Light Em up

(even though hes maddux)

My 08 Cubs record 7-0
Updated June 01

by Rudey on Jun 4, 2008 8:25 AM CDT   0 recs

I agree Al...

stay away from Rich Harden. I think we’ve been through the ringer with our history of pitching injuries. Enough said.

Sabathia, I just don’t see it happening, mainly because the Indians will be in contention and I think they will eventually sign him. Plus, it would be a lot to give up and not to mention that the guy has pitched a ton in the last couple of years and is bound to break down at some point. IMO and just sayin’

You ARE freaking out MAN!

by crw89 on Jun 4, 2008 8:26 AM CDT   0 recs

disagree

that sounds about right, why give up a lot of talent just to rent sabathia. but how much better chance would we have to win it all with two aces like that? with our lineup, our bullpen, and zambrano/sabathia at the top of the rotation we would seem absolutely unbeatable in the playoffs.

The Aramis BB/K Watch: 34 walks to 34 strikeouts. Im not sure who the last Cub to have more bb's than k's was, but Im sure it was a very long time ago.

by kylejo on Jun 4, 2008 8:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This team

doesnt lose 3 in a row as it is… got to think that would continue with Z and CC pitching. Home field advantage could mean series wins.

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 4, 2008 8:59 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

True, but...

... as you said, this team already hasn’t lost more than 2 in a row. So why does it need to give up the farm to rent Sabathia?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 9:00 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agrre with Al

As much as I’d love CC to be here full-time, he’s made it pretty clear he wants to go back to the West Coast

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 9:06 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't think attitude (i.e., Bonderman) is what makes the difference---finding their flaw is

First let me say eight games in a row, now two in a row on the West Coast, once the graveyard for many a Cub teams. No doubt Barrett see’s what we have all season, the Cubs hitting approach is something strategic. Interesting how he framed it, they forced us to come to them. Currently I am relegated to the Gameday format I can vouch that from their reporting the Cubs big HR’s were all grooved pitches after long AB’s.

The issue of a top of the rotation pitcher is one where there will only be a few pitchers at all dealt this summer, they are simply too valuable, s o in relative terms a team will have to overpay. This will mean that Hendry’s modus operandi where he deals from opportune will not come into play, he will have to get out of his comfort zone, or will he?

My first obvious opportunity will be Maddux, where after tonight’s start Maddux’s relative marque value for the Padres is small—-can Hendry & Co. make a trade that includes Marquis & mid-level prospect for Maddux in a money deal. Cubs basically pick up an additional $2.6M this year for Padres picking up Marquis’ $9M next year. This would improve the Cubs rotation incrementally. Padres need to rebuild and gaining a E Patterson or Murton could help them.

The next point will be for the Cubs to make one more deal. The Indians are not the target for CC will be the top free agent next year and get them a top supplemental draft pick, and seeing the ChiSox, Detroit and Minn, they are too invested to make the playoffs——unless the Cubs overpay stupidly.

So where I would look is places like LA, Peavy is going to be a FA and they are about to go deep under where Torre is going to want to dismantle this lunacy job. Other places are Seattle, KC, Texas, Toronto and Detroit where if I trade for Bonderman I want to know what is his flaw and if I can correct it. To me the guy is AJ Burnett.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Jun 4, 2008 9:32 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Marquis actually might be a good fit for SD...

... in a bigger park where he’d allow fewer HR. That might just work if the Cubs ate some of the money.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 9:35 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

from your keyboard

to the mountain top.

:P

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 9:36 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah... less HRs, more Triples. Perfect.

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:36 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

as long as he's pitching for someone else.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 9:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I wouldn't confuse that with pitching.

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

well.

he meets the technical definition of the word—he stands on the mound and throws the ball towards the plate.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 9:47 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

more like walking around the mound...

procrastinating to throw the ball…

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:49 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that's the other thing

SPEED THE F UP! Cripes. I’m getting old here…

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 9:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Just returning from a walk

this cloudy & cool SD morning, I was thinking the EXACT same thing, AL. Marquis would be a good fit for the Pads. Give them an OF - Murton, or even Pie.
Eat most of Marquis’ contract, and take Maddux. With an offense behind him, Greg would be fine - and then he could be fitted with a rocking chair at the end of the season.

Jake Peavy just signed an extension - didn’t he? He likes pitching in Petco. I really doubt if he wants to leave. And you have to be careful for his future - he is Wood-like in his delivery. There may be more problems ahead. Let somebody else spend millions on Peavy (I still think he’d take the SD discount, if offered in the future)

Let’s hope Maddux isn’t himself tonight. (Sorry, Jessica…)

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 4, 2008 11:28 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Maddux

For Murton and Pie? I wouldnt do Maddux for Pie straight up. IMO, Maddux wouldnt be a starter in the playoffs in a 5 game series.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jun 4, 2008 11:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed...

Maddux would be a nice #4 or #5 starter for the rest of the season. He’s an upgrade over Marquis. But that’s about it.

I might do Murton and Marquis for Maddux, just to get Marquis out of the rotation and off the books for next year. I honestly don’t know whether or not that’s feasible, as who knows what makes GMs tick sometimes. But trading Pie in a package for a guy who’d be (at best) the back end of a playoff rotation just doesn’t make sense.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 11:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, I could live with trading away Marquis and Murton for Maddux, but not Pie.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 11:48 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Um Please trust me re Maddux

IF and it is a HUGE if, he is interested in coming back to the
Cubs it will NOT cost any player you care about (unless you are among
the us Murton fans ) Kevin Towers like Hendry before him is going to
let Maddux go if he wants to. All the Cubs need is to pay the remaining salary and throw in a player maybe Murton who I am SURE they would love or a nice Iowa prospect who is a catcher or corner infielder blocked from moving. They will be in NO position to get more anymore again than the Cubs were in 06. The Maddux situation is unique and while no one would EVER say so openly he is going to dictate the terms IF he decides to move. Basically Scott Boras will call Hendry and or Colletti and say ” Greg would love to come back” Either or both of them
get on the phone and figure it out discreetly. All of them love Maddux
All of them will bend over backwords to accomadate him and it is not
like the Padres are losing someone they can use in a race.

Again I really think he stays put in California but you need not worry
about the “price’ if he wants to come back to the Cubs

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 4, 2008 2:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Good to know.

Jimbo, git ‘er done!

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 2:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

no WAY

is Maddux worth Marquis AND Pie. They can have Marquis, and we’ll pay half of Jason’s remaining salary, for Maddux. If they get Murton too, we get a prospect. At least. This isn’t Greg Maddux from 2001.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 12:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Peavy's also

currently on the DL with a “swollen elbow.”

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:36 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes I meant Penny

He pitched last night and I thought he is a FA next year. The real target is Burnett though. He is going to opt out of his contract and seek the big $$$ and needs to have a marque platform.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Jun 4, 2008 9:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Isn't Burnett an injury waiting to happen?

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:41 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Burnett is set to make $12 million per for two more years...

I can’t imagine with his injury history and with the fact that he’s 31 and hasn’t been to make the jump (has always just been a shade better than average), that he’d be in line to make a lot more money than that. I certainly wouldn’t be lining up to pay him more than that. I’m not saying that he won’t opt out, it just doesn’t seem like the best of decisions.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 9:46 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Lee Sinns has Penny

as the 5th worse pitcher in the NL for runs saved above average. Not a good choice by any means. Not one to give up talent for.

by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 4, 2008 11:48 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Looking at LA... for Peavy?

You mean Lowe?

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:36 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd go wait and see on Lowe.

He’s strung together 3 decent starts, but he was awful to open the season.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Exactly.

The Cubs are fine right now. It’s still seven weeks till the trading deadline. We have time.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 9:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And a pretty loaded deck

as far as trading options. Nice position to be in.

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 4, 2008 9:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep.

That said, if Lowe could turn it around, he’d be a perfect guy to add. Postseason experience, gets lots of groundballs, doesn’t walk a ton of guys, not a turd in the clubhouse…

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yes, in favor of Lowe

though I think the Dodgers will stick around for long enough that he wont be available.

The Aramis BB/K Watch: 34 walks to 34 strikeouts. Im not sure who the last Cub to have more bb's than k's was, but Im sure it was a very long time ago.

by kylejo on Jun 4, 2008 10:13 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not to mention...

That while LA has struggled recently, they are only 3.5 games out of the division lead. They aren’t bailing out YET.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 9:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

True.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

boy

that’s a bad division… :D

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 9:48 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Plus, LA is hurt right now.

They’ll be a better team when they get healthy

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Right...

I don’t see the Dodgers being sellers just yet. Maybe if Jones and Furcal come back from injury and the team still falls back. But given that they’re in the hunt even without their SS or their CF, I don’t think they’re selling yet.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 9:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well... you know he's on the top of my list :)

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:42 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Interesting points, but haven't the Cubs won NINE games in a row?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 9:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

YES! WE RULE!

But, you always have to look for ways to improve.

I mean… would you want to send Marquis out to the hill to face, say the Cards Brewers, Reds, Phillies or D-Backs?

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

the Reds

only if they promise to light him up the way they did Lieber.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2008 9:48 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Jay Bruce would go directly to Cooperstown

After an afternoon vs Marquis.

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh, I agree.

I was just pointing out an inaccuracy in Ivy Wall’s post, not implying that the team shouldn’t look for ways to improve.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 4, 2008 9:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Trust me I thought about that

No way the Padres do this UNLESS the Cubs pick up nearly all of Marquis’
salary NEXT YEAR. They are very cheap team and they are not eating 6 million
or so for Marquis ( FYI Maddux will be owed roughly 3.2 million if traded near deadline) That said I am not sure it might not be worth eating much of the salary but
if you want the Padres to take him you take the salary just as the Cubs did with Izzy

Um Peavy has LONG term deal. Did you mean some Dodger pitcher Penny perhaps ? I don’t care for the guy but maybe

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 4, 2008 1:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It might be worth doing...

... to make this sort of deal.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 2:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

would Cleveland...

take Mel Hall and Joe Carter again?

by bison on Jun 4, 2008 11:04 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What about Tim Hudson?

Tim Hudson, I think a much better pitcher with a manageable salary with a couple years left. He looks to have plenty in the tank to make a good #2 starter behind Z. The Braves don’t seem to be producing much pitching talent lately as evidence by signing Glavine and waiting around for Hampton… Smoltz appears to be done with season ending surgery. I think they would appreciate some young arms right about now.

Anyway, the Braves are still in the hunt right now so likely not selling just yet…. but I would really like to see Hudson in blue.

Ok, devour me you vultures.

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jun 4, 2008 11:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Love the Sarcasm

about Hart. He was really awful last night. I also wonder what Lou said to him as he sort of grabbed a hold of him to keep him there while he talked to him a bit before letting him head off the field.

by adam316 on Jun 4, 2008 8:27 AM CDT   0 recs

Probably the samd thing he said to Marquis

“Throw F*&%ing strikes!” With a “I’ve got other guys in the bullpen that will,” mixed in.

With Hart it might be, “Have fun back in Iowa. Tell Piggy I said ‘hi.’”

by Archie on Jun 4, 2008 8:29 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He meant

when he pulled him.

Im sure it was something like, “your gonna get another shot, just throw strikes and you’ll be back on this mound”

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by Rudey on Jun 4, 2008 8:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Steve Stone was saying the same thing as Mariotti

yesterday on the Score. He’s convinced, though he failed to say why, that Hendry will make “rental” type of deal, where he trades for a big-name pitcher with an expiring contract. Then Sabathia’s name came up, as he recently turned down, IIRC, 18 mil/yr from Cleveland. Stone seemed to think that was the target, though, again, he never cited where he was getting this from. So, take that FWIW, as this is the same man who said Wood could never be a closer, that Soto’s weight would force him to 1B/DH, and that Brian Roberts would certainly be a CUb.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 8:29 AM CDT   0 recs

So IOW...

... we can forget about Sabathia or another rent-a-player.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 8:38 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Lol.

It would seem so, but I wouldn’t put it past Hendry, especially if Lilly has a rough outing tonight. I don’t think He or Lou will be content with both Ted and Jason struggling, plus Dempster and Gallagher being unknown quantities at this point; Hendry may decide he wants a more proven talent in the rotation. However, these are my own suspicions, and little more. I don’t put much stock in Stone’s “predictions anymore.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 8:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You really think Demp is still an unknown quantity?

I was just thinking thins morning about how I kind of expect him to win every start—something I never thought I’d do.

He’s been a real pleasant surprise.

Not disagreeing with you really Varsh. Is it the “going deeper into games” question?

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 8:56 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He's unknown

in that he doesn’t have a track record as a starter for us to have a comfortable feel as to how he will do going forward. Will his arm hold up with the increased number of innings he will be throwing? etc.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 4, 2008 8:58 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah I can see that

I’d like to think because the decision to make him a starter was made so early he changed the way he prepared this off season.

Plus he’s Canadian. If his arm starts to hurt they can just put bear grease on it or whatever.

by AlabamaCubFan on Jun 4, 2008 9:01 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Right.

It’s really a question of how he will hold up over the long run. He hasn’t thrown over 100 innings since 2003. I’m as pleased with his performance as anyone, and not just because I’m invested fairly heavily in him fantasy baseball-wise at this point. It’s great to see how hard he worked in the offseason and the level of success he, and, by extension the Cubs, is enjoying.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 9:01 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, it's a combination of a few things...

1. The fact that he’s not pitched over 100 innings since 2003;
2. The fact that he’s never pitched this well in his entire career; and
3. The fact that he seems to be getting fortunate on balls hit in play in that he doesn’t have more base hits allowed.

That’s not to say that he can’t continue to be really good. Just that these are three questions to which we don’t yet know the answers.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2008 9:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Robin Roberts or Fergie Jenkins

would be good choices instead of Marquis.

Seattle is going to have to dump salery sooner or later, though I doubt they would give up Bedard, who they gave up their future for, and I don’t think that I’d want Washburn.

by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 4, 2008 11:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Luck and Skill are an incredible force

Luck exhibited by getting through several innings with Jason Marquis, and keeping a manageable score. Skill….well, skill is throughout the lineup. What else can you say. This is wonderful.

by Cajuncub on Jun 4, 2008 8:29 AM CDT   0 recs

And ineptitude... by the Padres offense.

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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2008 9:19 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

First we got Scrappy-Doo.

Now we have ROOGY-doo?

The thing that carried Hart last year was confidence. He was Lou’s golden boy. Now? He’s been pretty bad this year in the ML. I’m pretty sure Lou will give him another chance, in a decently big situation.

If Hart doesn’t produce, luckily we’ve got Ascansio waiting.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jun 4, 2008 8:34 AM CDT   0 recs

One thing we know about Lou:

He loves having guys in the bullpen that throw hard, so Hart will likely get a few more chances, before getting sent back down.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 4, 2008 8:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Had the Cubs known...

... they were going to want a 13th pitcher, Ascanio wouldn’t have been sent down. Now he can’t be recalled until he’s down there for 10 days.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 4, 2008 8:39 AM CDT to parent up