A Numbers Game: Cubs 1, Padres 2
by Al on Jun 5, 2008 8:52 AM CDT
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Feels weird to lose, doesn't it?
And isn't that a good thing? After nine wins in a row -- coming from behind in eight of them -- it still felt OK even when the Cubs went down 1-0 in the first inning.
But for the first time in 26 games the Cubs never led, though they tied it at 1 when Alfonso Soriano singled, stole second, went to third on a Ryan Theriot single, and scored on a sacrifice fly. (The last time the Cubs never led in a game before last night was when they were shut out in Cincinnati 9-0 on May 7. The next day they came home and started a four-game winning streak.
There isn't much more to say about last night's 2-1 loss to the Padres. Ironies abounded: the Cubs finally got a good pitching performance out of their starting pitcher, Ted Lilly, but the bats turned silent -- four singles was all they got, and no walks; that's the first time since April 11 at Philadelphia and only the third time all season (April 4 at home vs. Houston the other) that the Cubs have gone walkless, very impressive patience being shown by Cub hitters all year.
Other numbers: Greg Maddux threw only 69 pitches in dispatching the Cubs through the six innings he threw. (You still don't want Maddux? It wasn't Petco that was making his pitches move the way they did last night. Go get him, Jim Hendry!) The Cubs did get a hit off Trevor Hoffman in the 9th inning, but with two out, Hoffman struck out Derrek Lee to end it. The game finished in a snappy two hours and fifteen minutes, probably sped along by the lack of walks (Lilly walked two, but no other pitcher who appeared in the game walked anyone).
Updating my "Best Starts" box, a numbers curiosity: all the teams that started the day of their 60th game of the season with a better record than the 2008 Cubs, lost that game, as did this year's version.That's it, really; I did fall asleep after the fourth inning, only to wake up during the bottom of the 7th to see that it was still 1-1, and fell asleep again. The next time I woke up some infomercial was on WGN, and I figured I'd find out the result in the morning.
Yes, it feels weird, as it does when every winning streak that gets this long ends. But the Cubs still won the series, and still lead the division by three games, and their starting pitcher looked good, and they saved the entire bullpen except for Carlos Marmol, who retired both of the hitters he faced (even though one of those outs produced the winning run on a sac fly), and Marmol threw only eight pitches.
Onward to Los Angeles and more winning.
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Baseball's afunny game isn't it?
Lilly gives up 7 or 8 runs? And we win.
Lilly gives up 1 run… and we lose.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Jun 5, 2008 8:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It does feel weird to lose
I was so looking forward to a naked lipped BB
by Emelie on Jun 5, 2008 8:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Too much information!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 5, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In a related story...
...Naked Lipped BB will be performing at the Empty Bottle tonight. Steve Stone’s Love Child will open.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This team sucks!!!!
Just kidding. Would’ve liked to see a better performance from the offense but got to hand it to Maddux, he was brilliant.
"Please move away from this vector and get into another coordinate pronto. There's no access for you in this quadrant." Mike Donnelly
by McRipper on Jun 5, 2008 9:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes. He was brilliant.
Now, it would be even more brilliant if Hendry could figure out a way to dump Marquis in San Diego…
Just give him the wrong call time for the bus ride to LA.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Jun 5, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Works for me!!
"Please move away from this vector and get into another coordinate pronto. There's no access for you in this quadrant." Mike Donnelly
by McRipper on Jun 5, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, this team sucks! We'll do it live! WE'LL DO IT LIVE!!!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOLZ
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on Jun 5, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you heard the dance remix? I liked it so much I bought it.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT'S THAT MEAN?? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on Jun 5, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see Lilly go 7 innings
...the BP needed that. I don’t like this losing thing though ;)
On a side note, one of the many great things about BCB. I have been on the east coast on business all week and have missed every pitch of the SD series, but BCB has kept me up to speed! You only really get to see box scores in the USA Today and of course the requisite 18 second recap of the best in baseball on ESPN every night when traveling..
Thank goodness for BCB!
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on Jun 5, 2008 9:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have slingbox and the MLB audio package to back me up
when I’m on the road for work…
but being on the east coast for this series was tough… I was up till at least 1am on Monday night.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Jun 5, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least
we didn’t need to use a pitcher in the ninth. Right?
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right Al
There’s a lot of positives to be taken from this game: great start from Lilly, most of the pen rested, beat by Maddux rather than the AAA lefty we’d lose close game to in years past, still won the series…
I don’t recall feeling this optomistic after a loss in a long time. Usually I have that, “here we go again” feeling after a close loss, but now it’s a real (not just a make my self feel better) we’ll get ‘em tomorrow feeling.
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Jun 5, 2008 9:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Last night was a classic Madres win.
They got great pitching and managed to eek out just enough offense to win. At the very least, I got some chuckles out of watching Michael Barrett play.
Was he always that bad behind the plate or did we just conveniently overlook it because he made up for it with his bat? (I think I know the answer to that.) I feel a little bad saying that, because I used to like Micheal, but, man…those throws down to second base were awful. And I loved his “What can I say?” shrug when the ump got pissed at Maddux. Great baseball moment.
In any case, big ups to Ted “The Prez” Lilly for stepping up with a quality start. Hey, MDBNIU, I hope this puts an end to your Marquis comparision. Call me the next time Jason goes seven and a third, gives up only one run and strikes out eight.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 9:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Self-correction: Lilly gave up two runs, of course.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Barrett was always that bad behind the plate.
We ignored it the first two years because he was hitting. But when he stopped hitting, it was time for him to go.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 5, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only flaw in Maddux's game
was still evident - he didn’t hold runners on. That, combined with Barrett’s tissue-paper arm = steals.
To echo Al - Get. Maddux. Now.
He could have pitched in a phone booth last night. I hated to see the streak end, but on the drive home I realized it was another chance to see a HOF pitcher at his best—it could have been 1992.
He should finish with a winner, not surrounded by second-rate crap.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 5, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's time for DLee to get out of this funk
And start being aggressive at the plate again. He’s just staring at meatballs. It’s so hard to watch him when he goes through these slumps.
Also… I think we’re due to see either Dome or Soto get red hot soon.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Jun 5, 2008 9:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep...
noticed that too. Lee needs to pounce on some of these pitches he’s seeing, especially in that last at-bat.
You ARE freaking out MAN!
by crw89 on Jun 5, 2008 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question is -
Why is Lee staring at meatballs?
by DGU on Jun 5, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he's on Wood's diet
and is getting hungry
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jun 5, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jun 5, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was
nearly midnight central time. He probably needed a snack.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't been talking to Prince Fielder, has he?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
DLee doesn’t agree with clubbing little baby seals, unlike Fielder ;)
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jun 5, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
still sad over that
evil bcb
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on Jun 5, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad that someone
who recognized the reference caught it first, otherwise people may think I am a really evil person saying that Fielder clubs little baby seals :)
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jun 5, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maddux
He went 7 innings, Al; not 6.
"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979
by danimal15 on Jun 5, 2008 9:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks.
Remember, I was asleep.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 5, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you call it a night after the fourth inning as usual or try to make it a little a longer?
I wound up watching this one until the very end. Thanks to Greg Maddux, doing so didn’t hurt me too much.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I posted about this in the main post.
Fell asleep after the 4th, woke up in the 7th, fell asleep again. Guess I should have stayed asleep.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 5, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
D'oh! I just got caught skimming again.
Yeah, maybe some deeper REMs would’ve pulled this one out. Ah, well…if our guys can at least split the series with the Dodgers, I’ll be pretty satisified with this roadtrip.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This losing thing sucks!
Let’s start another 9 game winning streak tonight. On second thought, let’s make it an even dozen.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
by Blue W on Jun 5, 2008 9:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How 'bout a baker's dozen? (And I don't mean Dusty.)
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We got Madduxized
As much as I hated to see us lose at least I got to watch most of a great craftsman dice us up with funny looking pitches that dance before our eyes. 7 pitches in the 1st inning? Has to be one of Maddux’s best games this year. I’ll miss watching him pitch…...someday. Onward to LA, let’s get back on track!
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on Jun 5, 2008 9:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Two notes...
...first, if the Yankees, Red Sox, or Mets had a nine game winning streak (or a nine game winning streak snapped), this would be the cover story, sans the Stanley Cup. Instead, espn.com has NOTHING about this game on its front page. This is why I hate Espn, hate east coast bias, and hate those three teams.
Second, has there ever been a team that had a player – let him go – got him back – let him go – and may get him again?
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jun 5, 2008 9:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I assume there have been...
... some players that have had three different stints with a team, though I can’t think of one off the top of my head, and definitely no one of the stature of a Greg Maddux.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 5, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe
pinch-hitter Mark Sweeney (now a Dodger) has been with the Padres 3x.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 5, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rickey Henderson
I think Oakland drafted him then released and reaccquired him a few times throughout his career.
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on Jun 5, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carl Everett
I think the Sox traded for him twice, giving up a total of 114 minor league prospects.
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Jun 5, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes on Lofton
Three tours of duty with Cleveland – 92-96; 98-01; and 2007
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 5, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The White Sox...
...acquired Harold Baines 3 times.
by jolietconvict on Jun 5, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maddux
Do you think there is going to be some dumbass voter for the HOF that doesn’t vote for Maddux?
"Please move away from this vector and get into another coordinate pronto. There's no access for you in this quadrant." Mike Donnelly
by McRipper on Jun 5, 2008 9:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why would there be?
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jun 5, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because...
... there are some idiot sportswriters who have a HoF ballot who think, wrongly, that “no one should get in unanimously”.
Even Cal Ripken didn’t. How stupid.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 5, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one has received 100%
I think. Because of that, some voters will refrain from voting just so a current player doesn’t trump one of the all time greats who didn’t get the 100%.
Silly, I think.
by TC Cubby on Jun 5, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Insane HoF Voters
I’ll go over a list of players I remember. George Brett, Tom Seaver, Tony Gwynn, Cal Ripken, Jr., Rod Carew, Steve Carlton, and Mike Schmidt did not get unanimous election. I suppose Gwynn and Carew did not hit for enough power. Schmidt did not hit for high enough an average. Carlton had too many bad seasons at the end of his career. Ripken didn’t hit for high enough an average. Brett did not field third base well early in his career in the 1970’s. Tom Seaver never pitched a perfect game. I’m grasping at straws to figure out why anyone with a HoF ballot did not vote for these players.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on Jun 5, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The answer is...
... that those writers are arrogant jerks.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 5, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I'm guessing a number of them were DUBWITs as well.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does that acronym stand for?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 5, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon, Al, you're not keeping up with the BCB dictionary. :-)
It stands for DUmbest Baseball Writer In Town.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're also not all baseball writers
I think I read somewhere that Phil Hersh of the Trib has a vote. He has been covering the Olympics pretty much full time for at least 15 years.
"Let's not get too giggly." ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on Jun 5, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Willie Mays caught the ball wrong....threw sidearm
I’m surprised that he made the HOF with his lack of fundamentals. What were the voters thinking?
by crazymountain on Jun 5, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
baseball is a funny game
7 games in a row where the cubs pitchers do not throw a “quality” start
cubs record 7-0
1 game in a row where the cubs pitcher throws a “quality” start
cubs record 0-1
by gocubsgo22 on Jun 5, 2008 9:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe it was Al who said:
“If anyone ever tells you that they have this game figured out, laugh in their face.”
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
by Blue W on Jun 5, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's Mike's line, actually.
But I like repeating it. It’s the truth.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 5, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Team Batting in general
was pretty brutal. Not just Lee (although he is in a little funk). Seemed like the enigma of Maddog got to them last night. The whole “jump on him early, or you let Maddux settle into his game" took the Cubs out or their game of being patient and letting the pitcher make the mistake. Dome’s first 2 ab’s he swung at the first pitch and flew out. Just an uncharacteristic game for that offense in general. It happens sometimes.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 9:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
good observation
the batters did jump on several pitches. Maddux had a fierce repertoire, though. I didn’t feel bad about the loss. There weren’t any bone-headed moves—except maybe by the umpire’s call of a balk on Lilly. Still can’t figure that one out.
by Emelie on Jun 5, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes you have to tip the cap
He was on last night. The balk was weird. I have never seen that either. I guess they had to lose one sometime. Go on to LA and start another win streak.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weird is right
The loss itself doesn’t feel weird…it feels like a loss. But griping about it does. So I’ll just touch a couple quickly. No walks was a bummer. D Lee is a bit of a concern. He needs to get going again in LA (avg down to .287). It’s a shame we couldnt muster a couple more runs.
Stat question: When was the last time a team had five20 HR guys? Obvious potential this year with Lee, Ramirez, Soto, Soriano and DeRosa. How about six 20 HR guys?
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on Jun 5, 2008 9:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The 2004 Yankees had six...
ARod (36), Sheffield (36), Matsui (31), Jeter (23), Williams (22), and Posada (21). They actually had EIGHT with over 15, with Sierra (17) and Clark (16) playing part-time. And it’s important to note that Giambi (12) only played 80 games that year. They could have easily had eight guys with 20 HR that year. Ridiculous.
by SouthernCub on Jun 5, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Five is more common...
The 2007 Brewers, Phillies, and Indians did it, although the Indians had nobody with 30 and only one with 25. The Indians did it again in 2005.
by SouthernCub on Jun 5, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the stats
Would be nice to see and would only make this team that much more memorable.
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on Jun 5, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al, I still don't think getting Maddux is the right thing to do
Posted this in response to you in the Maddux thread:
It was a vintage Maddux start, but the splits are still what they are. Last week, we saw something akin to vintage Jim Edmonds. Not a whole lot of people on this board believed that it was a true resurgence.
This was one start. A very good start, but one start. He will have more, but I don’t know that he’ll have more like this than not.
Pitcher A:
5.01 Road ERA, .315 AVG, 1.46 WHIP
Pitcher B:
5.02 overall ERA, .307 AVG, 1.66 WHIP
Pitcher B is someone none of us like.
Maddux is the best pitcher of his generation, he’s a class act and a first-ballot Hall of Famer. However, at this point, he’s a 5-6 inning pitcher who struggles away from Petco. Bringing him back now would not undo the fact that his best years were in Atlanta. If he returns, I’ll welcome him and I’ll cheer for him. I just think that it would be a move based on sentimentality and not the best baseball decision.
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 5, 2008 9:41 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Totally Agree Shanghai
If Lou is worried about his pen now. I don’t think Maddog is the right man for the job. Love him, but…
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just looking at this
Maddux took one for the team the night after the Padres played 18 innings and then had to travel to AZ to play the DBacks (DBags). I watched that game and Maddux had NOTHING. He stayed in the game through the 7th inning to give the bullpen a rest. He gave up 13 hits and 9 ER. Take that game away and his road splits are….
3.67 Road ERA, 1.32 WHIP
I still don’t think he would be that helpful to the cubs on the field since he gives up too many HR especially in summer months at Wrigley, but his one start in AZ where he took one for the team really skews how well he has been pitching everywhere so far this year.
by gocubsgo22 on Jun 5, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point - but
You can’t take that start completely away, though—because he still would have gone 4-5 innings, right?
It does skew the numbers somewhat.
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 5, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For real..
It’s not like he was told to give up 9 runs.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jun 5, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
My point is that people want to take that start away because he took one for the team, but even if he had left sooner, he still would have started the game. You can’t discount the entire start.
I just looked at the play-by-play. He gave up 6 in the first - he actually pitched better after that - 4 hits in the third through seventh. So, in effect, taking one for the team after the first made his numbers better than what they would have been had he been removed earlier.
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 5, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Further...
... Maddux has NEVER pitched well in Arizona, no matter whether he was in his prime with the Braves, in his last stint with the Cubs, or now.
The Cubs play in Arizona in late July. Maybe they could wait till after that series to get him back.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 5, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
I was just pointing out that taking away one bad road start (which I realize you cannot due) makes his road numbers pretty good.
I love Maddux, BUT I do not advocate bringing him back as an answer to Cub’s potential second half starting pitching issues. He is not a good fit for Wrigley summer games at this point in his career.
by gocubsgo22 on Jun 5, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Odd
Feels weird to lose, doesn’t it?
Thats exactly the last thing I said before going to bed. It really does feel weird, I bet it was weird for the Cubs too. Lou’s post game speech to the team “what the hells wrong with you guys? Letting Len and Bob off the hook!”
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on Jun 5, 2008 9:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I blame my boyfriend
Last night was the first night my boyfriend and I were not together. We lost because he wasn’t here. We have been together for all but one Cubs game. We’ll be together tonight so we should get back on a winning track. It does feel weird to lose, but you can’t win them ALL. Just most of them!
Sorry to say, I fell asleep in the 6th and the game was over when I woke up at 1 because of the storms.
"I'm a Cubs fan. I'm very, very patient." -- from a Shoe cartoon.
by No Southern Belle on Jun 5, 2008 9:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I say dump him
He shoulda taken one for the team
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on Jun 5, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO DOUBT
who does he think he is
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough crowd
I hope he’s reading your replies! But I don’t think I’m ready to dump him just yet.
"I'm a Cubs fan. I'm very, very patient." -- from a Shoe cartoon.
by No Southern Belle on Jun 5, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's good...
...just having a little fun at your expense.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
That’s fine. But you’ve got me thinking. I’ll put him on alert that he needs to take one for the team, though I’m pretty sure he was watching the game last night.
"I'm a Cubs fan. I'm very, very patient." -- from a Shoe cartoon.
by No Southern Belle on Jun 5, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good!
It’s something that definitely should be monitored.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I'm seeing that....
.... he’s either not reading this or ignorning it because he hasn’t tried to defend himself! Hmmmmmm….... He’s probably ignorning it.
"I'm a Cubs fan. I'm very, very patient." -- from a Shoe cartoon.
by No Southern Belle on Jun 5, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's his user name?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure we're not...
...the only BCB “couple.” I’m an upper deck gal. Been sitting there with my dad for more than 20 years.
His user name? I don’t want to embarrass him. I’ll let him identify himself if he wants to. I don’t think he posts very often anyway.
"I'm a Cubs fan. I'm very, very patient." -- from a Shoe cartoon.
by No Southern Belle on Jun 5, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, just curious. :-)
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn't play baseball for NIU did he?
I kid, I kid….:)
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jun 5, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
He’s just a fan.
"I'm a Cubs fan. I'm very, very patient." -- from a Shoe cartoon.
by No Southern Belle on Jun 5, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did it take you
that long to get the joke or are you just now getting here?
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now I'm hoping...
... he doesn’t read this thread!!!! I won’t be able to look at him without laughing at him. Wait, I usually laugh at him anyway and he doesn’t know why,so this would be no different.
"I'm a Cubs fan. I'm very, very patient." -- from a Shoe cartoon.
by No Southern Belle on Jun 5, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad you could make it :)
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how did Marmol look last night?
I didn’t stay up to see the late innings of the game , either. Was Marmol’s sacrifice fly a situation where he normally would have struck out the batter 2 weeks ago, or just one of those things that happened. Just worried that he’s been a little more hittable in the last 2 weeks (and by that I mean it’s now physically possible to hit him, since he’s been unreal this year).
by TORCO on Jun 5, 2008 9:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Odd choice though
to throw a first pitch fastball that resulted in the sac fly. Marmol’s best pitch is his slider. I always thought the theory with relievers in that type of situation would be to make the hitter beat you on your best pitch.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jun 5, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought the same thing
the fastball was low, but still i would have liked to see nothing but sliders thrown to kouzmanoff. i think he was just trying to get ahead, but i wouldn’t have minded even pitching around kouz to make sure he gets nothing but low sliders. worst case, you walk him and have khalil greene at the plate with a DP possibility.
by Waveland Ave on Jun 5, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
to me
the mistake was leaving Lilly in for the 8th. If Marmol comes in to start that inning, maybe he doesn’t give up the double; then the bunt is an out and the sac-fly is too, and they’re out of the inning.
And because it’s a tie game, Hoffman doesn’t come in.
maybe, anyway.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 5, 2008 10:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why not bring in Stevie?
he was warming up in the pen the previous inning in case Giles and Gonzales got to the plate and he hasn’t given up an earned run yet.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jun 5, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stevie
Agreed. Why even have him warm up if you are going to leave Lilly in for the first two hitters (both lefties) in that inning. Very odd.
by gocubsgo22 on Jun 5, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
Lilly argued to stay in.
And Lou still likes to use Eyre in very specific situations. I don’t understand it.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 5, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't either.
Eyre’s being used like a LOOGY when he could easily go longer.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 5, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 5, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmmm...I don't know. I hate to challenge the master but...judges?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mmm... no
LOOGY reminds me too much of boogers and I certainly wouldn’t want a longer one of those
by Emelie on Jun 5, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think Al's sentence was a little too specific to apply a TWSS.
If Al had written only, “He could easily go longer.” then I could perhaps see TWSS being applicable. As it stands, I’m going to have to deny this usage. I will, however, leave this open to appeal.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS?
Fill me in again?
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Jun 5, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's What She Said
"Please move away from this vector and get into another coordinate pronto. There's no access for you in this quadrant." Mike Donnelly
by McRipper on Jun 5, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, oddly enough...
...”Fill me in again?” would be a perfect prompt for TWSS.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Touche
Well played, Sir.
"Please move away from this vector and get into another coordinate pronto. There's no access for you in this quadrant." Mike Donnelly
by McRipper on Jun 5, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
McRipper?
does that mean you fart at McDonalds?
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A little less than seven hours 'til game time, people.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
will it NEVER be game time...
(Henry V)
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 5, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thumbs Up!!!
It was borderline but after careful review the “he could easily go longer” phrase is an acceptable phrase.
"Please move away from this vector and get into another coordinate pronto. There's no access for you in this quadrant." Mike Donnelly
by McRipper on Jun 5, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
I was surprised, but not upset when Lilly stayed in. Sometimes, a manager takes a risk to play for the future—it’s not unlike resting starting position players.
On the other hand, the fact that he did bring Marmol seems inconsistent with that strategy.
On the third hand, you don’t score, you don’t win, so it doesn’t matter how many they gave up . . . .
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 5, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had a WTF moment
when Lou brought Marmol in. Far be it for me to second guess, but wtf?!
by Emelie on Jun 5, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I didn't get it either. When is Eyre going to get some innings?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I was at the game and there is no way that Lilly should have started the 8th. He did well to get out of jams all night but he gave up a lot of hard hit balls that I thought would have been HR’s in other parks.
by madeindetroit on Jun 5, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rumor
rumor has it the cub offense wants to get rid of marquis so they made a deal with the maddog. you pitch well and we wont swing the bats on purpose. then hendry will indeed see you are still an awesome pitcher who would like another WS ring. sometime over the next week or two he will be a cub. just kidding but sounds good to me anyway.
It might beeeeee!! It could beeeeeee!! It issssss!! Homerun!! Holyyyyyyy Cow!!!
by cubsluver22 on Jun 5, 2008 10:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
Theodore Roosevelt Lilly lost to Gregory Alan Maddux.
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on Jun 5, 2008 10:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Greg was just sick of hearing that
He was “out-Madduxed” by dempster last time out.
“I’ll show those guys! You don’t ‘out-Maddux’ Maddux! Only Maddux can ‘out-Maddux’ Maddux!”
...or something like that.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
by Blue W on Jun 5, 2008 10:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maddux
I have tons of respect for Greg as a pitcher, but it seems to me he has an equal number of good games and bad games these days. To me he’s a crap shoot, but he was dealing last night. Oh and I forgot he’s the best fielding pitcher ever.
by tedinSoCal on Jun 5, 2008 10:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tru dat
One other thing that’s not mentioned too often: his post-season record is not exactly ‘Cy Young’ stuff.
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Jun 5, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take out...
... the two 1989 NLCS games for the Cubs in which Maddux got lit up and his postseason ERA is 2.94 in 186 innings.
Not too shabby.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 5, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Post season records =
small sample sizes.
Nobody would draw conclusions on any random set of 10 or 15 games. Why these?
"Let's not get too giggly." ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on Jun 5, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would have stung less
In the 8th I was thinking maybe it would be a game my compromise “root for Greg to pitch great and we beat the pen” might work out.
It would have stung a little less to have had Madduck get the win,
We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.
by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 5, 2008 10:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they lost on purpose because they would have to look at Len and Bobs bald heads on the plane and the thought frightened them.
We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.
by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 5, 2008 10:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Again, why not just put both of these thoughts in one post?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neither
Made much sense.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do they
cancel each other out, then?
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Confused +1
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Jun 5, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looks like she at least tried to use punctuation in the first one.
Unfortunately, she used a comma to END the second sentence. And let’s not even get into “Madduck.”
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed -- stay away from rabid ducks...
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 5, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A WI brother?
You from WI? I’m in Brookfield WI. Tough being a Cubs fan in WI nowadays. Bandwagon Booers fans kill me.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, I'm from WI
After I saw your profile, I was considering starting a fan post about people “like us” .... I think that I will.
I’m from Kenosha, now live in Racine, went to school in Madison (obviously) and work in Milwaukee. It’s actually always been tough to be a Cubs fan around here—because when they’re bad, we hear that. You’re right about the bandwagon fans, though. I know some good Brewers fans, but most of the ones around here don’t actually know what the hell they’re talking about.
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 5, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Doubt
There are a lot of us here. It’s funny cause I have some really good baseball buds that are Brew fans. But they still kill me with the things they say.
One fault they have is that they feel their fans can do no wrong/holier than thou attitudes and always point out the few bad apples that spoil our bunch. Seems like every time I go to Miller Park I get stuff thrown at me or heckled ALL game. Also the thing that bothers me most is that people here consider the Cubs their biggest rival. I tell them maybe for you Brew fans it is. The Cubs will always have the Cards as their main rival... Just the way it is. Seems like they make it way bigger than what it really is which spills over into the stands."Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What Happened?
Why did that last post come out like that?
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good question
I tried to scroll to the end to read the whole quote but couldn’t do it.
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 5, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Darn
I had some good points in there. I guess to sum it up, We’re always the bad guys NO MATTER what. Most of them think it is a huge rivalry with us. I tell them it’s not. Will always be the Cards. Which makes them more mad. Don’t get it!
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine
that makes them even more angry considering they essentially play in Wrigley II.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that, I understand
it’s an inferiority complex - same reason why Marquette fans hate UW BB (the same ones that root for the FB team - go figure).
Also not much different than the White Sox fans.
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 5, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BINGO
Great analogy. I need to use that!
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the complex stems from
popularity, not ability.
Obviously, there are years when the Brewers have a better team
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 5, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I try to tell them
They think the Cubs have been good for a lot of years. They have NO idea what we have gone through as Cubs fans. They think because we spend a lot that we are good.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
There are bad Cubs fans, too - which makes us all look bad. But even the friends at work say funny things - I’ve had to explain the wild card to partial season ticket holders, and yesterday I had to explain to a big fan that the umpires are all, in fact, called umpires (not refs, backjudges, etc.) seems Milwaukee still is a football town – without a football team. (Even though I’m a Packers fan, the all GB all the time mentality drives me nuts.)
I did publish the fan post, btw. Will be interested to hear from our “bretheren”
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 5, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait.
You had to describe the wild card to season ticket holders?
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sigh
they thought there was more than one per league, yes
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 5, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those people shouldn't get postseason tickets.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 5, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry.
There’s a very good chance Miller Park won’t print any this year.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or if they do
No one will show up cause they aren’t to sure what the wild card is.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they'll show up if
Packers highlights are shown on the scoreboard
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 5, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or even..
If it’s picture of Brett Favre
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
they’ll move his locker to Miller if they make it to the playoffs.
Oh, and I feel the need to add a hearty GO BEARS! in the midst of all this Packer talk. ;)
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Packer Talk
just a dig on Booers fans not knowing what the wild card is.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quiet, you!
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my first thought above was disjointed
there are good and bad Cubs fans, Brewers fans, etc. is what I meant to say.
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 5, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The cursed Pirate Graybar.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DLee's last AB was bothersome
First off he’s slumping, secondly it was Hoffman on the mound. He should’ve been taking on the first pitch. Instead he swings over it and then guesses wrong on the 2nd pitch, taking a fat strike. Really, he should just swing at everything or take pitches until he sees a strike because when he gets in a slump it seems he guesses himself right into a pitcher’s count.
by Jerry Mumphrey on Jun 5, 2008 11:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
to be fair
there were 2 other cubs who also K’d in the 9th. i’m not denying that DLee is in a bit of a funk, but i think it’s safe to say that hoffman had his A game last night
by Waveland Ave on Jun 5, 2008 12:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Which made Theriot’s AB all the more impressive.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theriot was DEFINITELY a highlight last night, as was.....
Edmonds play in the gap on a critical play in a tie game. He got over real quick, fielded the ball, swiveled and threw to the correct base. Many would have macho-ed a loser throw into third with no chance for the runner and allow the hitter to get to scoring position. That ball had double written all over it too. Lilly got out of the inning and had we won, that play was a difference maker.
Theriot had some really impressive ab’s last night-not sure where his range ranks for a MLB SS-but for now, he brings alot offensively, albeit with no extra base hits. There’s tremendous value in hitters who can hang in against ANY pitcher and squeak out a hit.
It was good to see Ted throw so well, but I still don’t expect the same consistency we saw last year. Maddux was vintage—not sure you’d see many games like that in warm weather at Wrigley though.
BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"
by cubfever7 on Jun 5, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I take it
you’re not including his airmailed throw over the already-ginormous Derrek Lee, right. ;)
Good call on the Edmonds play. Though that big catch he made against the wall did look a wee showboatish, like he waited til the last second to jump when he could have really just kept right on running for it.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that he might know something about that fence
and the jump was to make sure that he hit the soft spot….the jump DID confound me.
by crazymountain on Jun 5, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, maybe.
Bottom line: he caught it.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just like
they taught you in Little League.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wish the rest of our
team had played little league and learned that technique. Might have saved Soriano a couple times already this year
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jun 5, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True.
But LL sure didn’t teach me to hit like Fonzie.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think any coach
in their right mind would teach someone to hit like that. He’s good at it, but I don’t think it is a recommended technique/approach :)
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jun 5, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hank Aaron was signed as a 2b
AND he batted RH with the left hand as the top hand, a split grip also!!! I can’t even imagine hitting that way, yet he was good enough to sign!!!
by crazymountain on Jun 5, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once he signed
with the Indianapolis Clowns, the coach helped him change to a conventional grip.
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another thing
was that Hand Aaron’s dad played semi-professionally. You would think he would have taught him to grip the bat correctly since he taught Hank growing up.
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be Hank
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember reading that as a kid.
I told my dad and he thought I made it up! “Son, nobody can hit like that. You’ll break your wrist.”
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 6, 2008 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Showboatish . . . maybe
to me it looked more like he wasn’t perfectly sure where the wall was. It looked like he wasn’t sure if he could take another step or not, so to be safe he jumped. But, I agree, in the end, all that matters is that he caught it.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jun 5, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One might even say
scrappy
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes --one might.
BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"
by cubfever7 on Jun 5, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had great pitch recognition, didn't offer at that damned change up.....
even with a mid-80’s fastball, the change up is NASTY…
by crazymountain on Jun 5, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that's what
caught Lee up. He got behind in the count so he had no idea what to look for and resorted to hacking to try and protect the plate.
No shame in losing that way, though.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Nats are putting up quite and effort today
Pujols just hit a pinch-hit homer in the eighth.
by Mapmaker on Jun 5, 2008 2:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nats with the same W/L record as the Tigers
Who would’ve thunk it…
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Jun 5, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In other NL Central news...
...the Reds have lost to the Phillies, 5-0. Cole Hamels pitched a three-hit complete game shutout. Suck it, Brennaman.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phills have a good team
Not to get a head of ourselves but those guys should be there in the end.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Judges?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought we were
going to be a little more sparing with the TWSS. We don’t want to kill it like some have beaten Rich Harden to death
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jun 5, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
poor Rich Harden
he was so young
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man...
...I need to watch what I say in this here blog.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a few more minutes
Until we pick in the draft.
by AceCubbie on Jun 5, 2008 2:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubs on the clock
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
by CubsBall2202 on Jun 5, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubs draft.... MARK PRIOR!!!
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Jun 5, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh shit, wait...
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Jun 5, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was hilarious!! We have some people who should write for Leno here
BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"
by cubfever7 on Jun 5, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's setting goals
pretty low, ain’t it?
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK....Larry the Cable Guy maybe?
BBWAA's name should be changed to "Power in the hands of Fools"
by cubfever7 on Jun 5, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oooh
even lower.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Undisputed +1
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rookie of the Month?
vote for tony412
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on Jun 5, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buzz.
Unnecessary gloating. Points redacted.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoever
lives in the city did you get woken up at about 1:30 am with the loudest lightning ever? My building seriously was shaking for about 2-3 seconds.
Besides that side story, a tough loss for Lilly and I look forward to Demp pitching deep. A win would be nice to simply avoid the talk about the Cubs possibly starting to scuffle again on the road. Most of that talk would be from the boobs on talk radio, why I still listen and let it bother me I don’t know why but I do.
Lets do it Cubbies
by slocs55 on Jun 5, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was out cold
Damn 9pm games.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Jun 5, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was also out cold
but then the lightning woke me up my heart pounding and I nearly sharted myself.
Lets do it Cubbies
by slocs55 on Jun 5, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs select Andrew Cashner
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
by CubsBall2202 on Jun 5, 2008 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Right handed pitcher from TCU
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
by CubsBall2202 on Jun 5, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I call his nickname right now as "Money." Book it.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe if his stuff is filthy
we can call him Dirty Money. That sounds grittier.
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if he's sexy, we can call him "Dirty Sexy Money. "
Whatever happened to that show, anyway?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
it went away with the writers’ strike
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dirty Sexy Money
will return in the fall.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by tucsoncubsfan on Jun 5, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BA against of .122, hitters using aluminum bats....
you just wonder how good it will be against wood bats
by crazymountain on Jun 5, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS?
No, I guess not
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buzz.
Roughing the commenter.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, any of you stats folks have anything that relates hitting with aluminum vs.wood?
by crazymountain on Jun 5, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't but...
know it’s easier to hit with aluminum than wood. Averages are inflated with aluminum so the .122 vs. is a good thing.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Much easier....
just waiting for the AL to add the aluminum bats for their DH’s….
by crazymountain on Jun 5, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding.
“We got a final in, Angels 32, Tigers 27.”
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that was the score after the 4th....
by crazymountain on Jun 5, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was
called after both teams used 25 pitchers.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More bat speed
To long of a read for me but… drussell/bats-new/alumwood.html” target=”_blank”>http://www.kettering.edu/drussell/bats-new/alumwood.html
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jun 5, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mabe you could
say that it’s harder to score with a woody
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um.....that's probably backwards.....
SSWT
by crazymountain on Jun 5, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWWHSNS
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long
as he can bunt, I’m happy.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, opponents BA.
:facepalm:
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cards win 4-1 - damnit
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Jun 5, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ESPN's take on Cashner:
“Cashner could get to the big leagues this year. On his best days, he has two pitches that grade as 60. The slider is at 88 mph, and it’s an out pitch. And he can run his fastball up to 98 mph. There’s a question about his command; can he command his pitches? If he can, he can get to the big leagues right away as an impact relief pitcher.”
"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."
by BMoney79 on Jun 5, 2008 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There, ya see? The bullpen's gonna be fine.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
With the addition of “Cash Money”, I do believe we have added one of the final pieces to the ‘08 Championship puzzle. Plus, it’s cool to say that now we’ve got a “Horned Frog” on our team.
"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."
by BMoney79 on Jun 5, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW
“Pitches that grade as 60.” Not familiar with that system…how good is 60?
"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."
by BMoney79 on Jun 5, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its better than a 50
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Jun 5, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But not as good as 70??
"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."
by BMoney79 on Jun 5, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The good news is the scale ends at 59.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, very nice!
What’d he get the extra point for?
"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."
by BMoney79 on Jun 5, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everybody gets the extra point.
It’s like that free space in bingo.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking it was more like Nigel Tufnel's amp in "This Is Spinal Tap."
“Why don’t you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?”
“These go to eleven.”
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brilliant.
The lost look on his face as he truly fails to comprehend is priceless.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a Marquis replacement....
I thought Lou was classic on the mound with Marquis…...
by crazymountain on Jun 5, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
excuse the formatting...
ESPN Cashner Grades
PRESENT FUTURE LOW HIGH
Fastball 70 70 95 98
FB Movement 45 45 - -
Command 45 45 - -
Control 40 45 - -
Slider 55 60 84 88
Changeup 45 50 - -
Feel 45 50 - -
by JCD on Jun 5, 2008 3:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Very interesting.
Thanks.
"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."
by BMoney79 on Jun 5, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it allowable
to break out individual lines for TWSS?
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 3:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That was for JCD's comment
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could maybe do something like this...
Feel 45 50 – -
TWSS.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would still deny that, though.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that doesn't quite work anyway.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was kind of
what I had in mind, but I didn’t want to be disqualified for improper TWSS usage
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Yanks Once Again
Get the “expensive” young stud who drops. Lame.
by AceCubbie on Jun 5, 2008 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Im putting the over/under
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Jun 5, 2008 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
for this thread
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Jun 5, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at 425
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Jun 5, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A few more TWSS votes, and we should make it easy.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You hear that, folks?!
Start throwing out those potentially suggestive, but not really intended, innuendos!
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will not
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Jun 5, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how come?
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Jun 5, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because I'm still in shock over this:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=2690
(thought he DIED or something)
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Jun 5, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering
that the guy played baseball with Mathusela, it would be an easy mistake to make
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dunno why, but I've always like Stairs
Maybe it’s because he tipped his hat to me one time when he was with the Cubbies. Seems like a good guy. 40yrs old and still hitting .272. Not bad, Matt.
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Jun 5, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the guy
can sure hit the ball a long way
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now
you’re just trying too hard.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
that one was completely accidental
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
D'OH
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WAY TOO HARD
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Jun 5, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've got the over
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 5, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS
(zing!)
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Jun 5, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Yanks
(no, not TWSS), but nice late comeback by NYY today. 3 in the bottom of the 9th.
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Jun 5, 2008 4:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Zale Update
CHICAGO (AP)—Tribune Company CEO Sam Zell says the company is pushing ahead with the sale of the Chicago Cubs and Wrigley Field and bidders should get the financial books within the week.Zell told lenders on a Thursday conference call that preliminary bids will be due in July. He says Tribune continues to explore a possible sale of Wrigley by itself to an Illinois state agency, but won’t delay the overall sale while trying to make that happen.
According to Zell, there’s never been a better time to market the team and the ballpark with the Cubs in first place and driving record attendance.
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on Jun 5, 2008 4:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Zale?
That’s pretty clever.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 5, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just drafted Vanderbilt SS Ryan Flaherty, with pick 41
“A strong and athletic infielder with a classic left-handed swing, he’s drawn a comparison to Wally Joyner in terms of his offensive skill set. He should hit for average, but hasn’t shown much power at this point. Defensively, he’s got a good arm, but does not have the range to stay at short. A move to third might make the most sense given his size.”
by crazymountain on Jun 5, 2008 4:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Move to third?
So he throws right?
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08