Nothing's Ever Easy: Cubs 5, Dodgers 4
Yes, I stayed up for the end of this one -- when Kerry Wood loaded the bases in the last of the 9th I was starting to wish I hadn't -- but in the end, all was well, after Kerry struck out Matt Kemp to preserve the Cubs' 5-4 win over the Dodgers, their fourth straight win over LA (giving them the all-time series lead over the Dodger franchise, 1011-1010).
Figures, doesn't it, that the one game I'm going to manage to stay up late to see its conclusion this week, is the longest one of the week, going three hours and seven minutes. So I am a bit bleary-eyed but happy this morning, as the Cubs maintain the best record in baseball at 39-22; check the "Best Starts Since 1900" box on the sidebar to see the 2008 team has now moved up; there are now only five Cub teams since 1900 that have started better: 1906, 1907, 1910, 1918 and 1969.
That's four pennant winners and one that shoulda.
And Kerry Wood, who some here were ready to throw under the bus when he had a tough debut as closer on Opening Day, is now leading the National League in saves.
Once again, this team won with a different hero; last night it was Kosuke Fukudome, who hit his first MLB home run away from Wrigley Field and who drove in the winning run with e perfectly-placed single off his countryman Takashi Saito in the 9th inning. Maybe the arrival of Kosuke's family in the USA has something to do with it:
"Perhaps it's because my family is in town," Fukudome said of his wife and young son, who joined him in San Diego. "I'll make sure they stay."
Hey, whatever works. The Cubs blew an early 4-0 lead when Jeff Kent homered twice, once off Ryan Dempster, once off Bob Howry, who nearly did a Ted Lilly slam-the-glove-down move, rare for him -- you almost never see Howry show emotion on the mound -- but this resilient team came back. Props to Neal Cotts for throwing a scoreless inning -- so far, since his recall, Cotts looks more like the setup man who had a 1.94 ERA for the 2005 champion White Sox, than the guy who got sent down seemingly never to return last year.
I still worry, as I am sure you do, a bit about Derrek Lee, who went 0-for-4 again last night. I'm sure he'll come out of this; it hasn't hurt his defense, which was clearly in evidence again last night, and plenty of great players go into slumps. Right now, with Daryle Ward out (and not likely to return anytime soon) and Micah Hoffpauir back at Iowa, it's not likely D-Lee will get a day off until the team off day on Monday, after which -- I never thought I'd write this -- I actually hope Hoffpauir will be back, not only to maybe give D-Lee a breather, but to get rid of the 13th pitcher, an unnecessary luxury for a manager who seems to have fallen in love with the scourge of the first decade of the 21st Century, the one-batter appearance.
This is too much complaining for a team that's playing this well, I fear. Even Jim Edmonds seems to be getting a bit closer to the guy we all hated in Cardinal red; he had two more hits last night and made a slick diving catch in CF. So enjoy the moment; there's only one more Late Night With The Cubs (tonight) until the team heads to San Francisco at the end of this month. Onward, and this morning please give some thanks to the Nationsls' Elijah Dukes, who hit a two-run walkoff HR in the 10th inning to give Washington a doubleheader split with St. Louis after they had blown a 7-0 lead; this kept the Cubs' lead in the NL Central at its largest of the year, 3.5 games. Till tonight.
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great game last night . . . time to read Al’s recap now
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Jun 6, 2008 8:22 AM CDT
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I too am a little worried
about DLee, this is a pretty bad funk he is in. But, as you say Al, he’s too good of a hitter to be in this slide for long.
Isn’t it nice though that while we are worrying about (probably) our best all around player, that doesn’t mean we have to worry about the team as a whole. These guys are a pleasure to watch.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Jun 6, 2008 8:33 AM CDT
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I didn't get to see the game last night...
...(damn you mediacom!!), but I’ve noticed that Lee’s timing is way off. Anyone else see this? He’s starting his leg kick sooner than he does when he’s on. Anyway, go Cubs!
Help me Obi-ONEDEC. You're our only hope.
by IowaCubs- on
Jun 6, 2008 8:37 AM CDT
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He seems a little heavier to me
Definitely doesn’t run as fast as he used to…. maybe it’s slowing up his swing a little.
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on
Jun 6, 2008 8:38 AM CDT
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I thought something was wrong
when he missed a pitch from Hoffman wed. night that was right in DLee’s wheel house.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Jun 6, 2008 8:38 AM CDT
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In Iowa City the game was on Mediacom channel 74
They usually put them there if there’s a Sox game on FSC.
Usually.
"I don't think anybody's paying attention to the Cubs." - Prince Fielder
by jasoniniowa on
Jun 6, 2008 8:43 AM CDT
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Des Moines Mediacom
is carries the Cardinals instead of the Cubs. Sucks for the Cub fans in Des Moines.
by sue369 on
Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT
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Mediacom
It was on channel 22 in Dubuque. Much like Iowa City, they usually put them on 22 when the Sox are on 27. You should check your alternative channels. I think 22 here is called Mediacom Connections.
by rambler19 on
Jun 6, 2008 8:57 AM CDT
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haha, that sounds like a regional airline!
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on
Jun 6, 2008 5:00 PM CDT
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Once again
Ryan The Riot! He seems to always play a big part in late inning rallies by somehow getting on base. I know he’s not the best defensive SS but you gotta love his O.
by plenz on
Jun 6, 2008 8:30 AM CDT
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Someone referred to his BA as "empty" earlier...
I think her is now making his hits count. he is good enough to be here no matter what other people say.
How does that make you feel?
by Kinky Reggae on
Jun 6, 2008 8:34 AM CDT
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"Empty" refers to lack of extra-base hits, not timeliness...
So in that regard, his BA is still empty, as he has one extra-base hit in his last 15 games.
As long as he keeps hitting .330, it’s not a problem. He’s hitting .330 now, which is keeping his OPS at a respectable .800. The question comes if/when that average drops to around .280. That’s what the poster used the term “empty” BA meant.
In other words, having an “empty” BA doesn’t mean that you aren’t making your hits count. The two are unrelated statements.
by SouthernCub on
Jun 6, 2008 10:35 AM CDT
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Man oh man
is he fast. I couldn’t imagine being able to run like that.
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"
by lostinthevines on
Jun 6, 2008 9:46 AM CDT
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yep… he continues to prove his worth to me
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by digitalbenjamin on
Jun 6, 2008 9:51 AM CDT
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It was a great game last nite. Al, thanks for the recap. This team isn't perfect
but it’s pretty darn amazing. And different “heroes” on different nights, we’re not depending on one player to always be the hero… I’m off on vacation for a couple of weeks so probably won’t be able to watch as many games but look forward to being at the game in Toronto on the 14th and then at Wrigley on the 21st… GO CUBBIES….
GoCubsGo
by MinnesotaFan on
Jun 6, 2008 8:31 AM CDT
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Rogers Center is an odd place to see a game
Not as odd as Chase in PHX (which feels like an airplane hangar) but odd nonetheless.
Be cool to see the Cubs though. Hope the roof is open.
by AlabamaCubFan on
Jun 6, 2008 8:55 AM CDT
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Also hope the roof is open
Forecast:
6/13 Sunny High: 84 °F
6/14 Rain Probable High: 80 °F
6/15 Sunny High: 81 °F
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on
Jun 6, 2008 9:19 AM CDT
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That's a week from now, so...
... the forecast could change.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jun 6, 2008 11:22 AM CDT
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I'll be there 13th and 14th
Where you sitting?
On the 14th I’ll be in Section: 113B
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on
Jun 6, 2008 9:16 AM CDT
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I can't wait for the Cubs
to get back on this side of the country, I’m getting tired of staying up late.
"The 12 second rule is how long it takes Carlos Lee to hear, turn around, run over, find and eat a hot dog dropped by a fan in the Crawford Boxes at Minute Maid park" - ballhawk
by MScubbie on
Jun 6, 2008 8:32 AM CDT
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errrr
i fell asleep when it was 4-0. I hate these stinking late nighters.
It might beeeeee!! It could beeeeeee!! It issssss!! Homerun!! Holyyyyyyy Cow!!!
by cubsluver22 on
Jun 6, 2008 8:32 AM CDT
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I didn't want
to fall asleep last night, because I fell asleep on wednesday night….I got a little superstitious.
"The 12 second rule is how long it takes Carlos Lee to hear, turn around, run over, find and eat a hot dog dropped by a fan in the Crawford Boxes at Minute Maid park" - ballhawk
by MScubbie on
Jun 6, 2008 8:34 AM CDT
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I went to sleep
last night b/c I stayed up to watch wednesday night’s game. I plan on watching tonight’s game however, so hopefully the Cubs can overcome my little bit of influence.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Jun 6, 2008 8:37 AM CDT
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Also stayed up
that was a mistake. I am SO tired! Anyway, Al, I am happy to have you in the Hoffpauir camp! We appreciate your support!
I hope he succeeds up here, if for no other reason then because he may make good trade bait. I like him a lot, whether all you people say he is destined to be a nobody.
GO CUBS!
How does that make you feel?
by Kinky Reggae on
Jun 6, 2008 8:32 AM CDT
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I would like to see Hoffpauir
get some more chances too in hopes that he can increase his trade value. I don’t think he really has a place on this team long term, especially once Ward gets back, but he could be a fine addition to an AL team who needs a DH/1B, maybe even the Red Sox at this point with Ortiz out for an extended period of time
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Jun 6, 2008 8:36 AM CDT
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Hoffpauir is a DH in the Cub system.
The club need one for the games in the AL parks and Ward is out. Bring back the Hoff.
by N Oakley on
Jun 6, 2008 8:41 AM CDT
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Is Ward
that much a better option than Hoff? Short term and long term.
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on
Jun 6, 2008 8:48 AM CDT
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To me, yes (short term)
but mostly because Ward has a proven track record of success in the pinch-hitter role in the Majors. Although Hoffpauir is turning some heads. Hoffpauir still looks a little over matched at the plate at times too.
Long term, who knows, Ward doesn’t move too well and back injuries are never good.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Jun 6, 2008 8:52 AM CDT
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I think D Ward's contributions to the team tip the scale
He’s a clubhouse guy, he’s experienced, his value as a PH can obviously be quantified but I think there is a confidence factor with a PH like D Ward (on both his part and Lou’s) that can’t be overstated.
He’s a perfect fit for THIS team. Maybe not every team, but for sure this one.
That being said I really hope we find a spot for Hoff. I like what I’ve seen so far.
by AlabamaCubFan on
Jun 6, 2008 8:53 AM CDT
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I agree
if not traded, he could be a future DWard.
How does that make you feel?
by Kinky Reggae on
Jun 6, 2008 9:30 AM CDT
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This may be blasphemy but
I would rather see Hoffpauir come up to DH vs. Murton
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Jun 6, 2008 9:01 AM CDT
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Hoffpauir
is a 28 year old 1st baseman who has 19 major league AB’s. You are right , he doesn’t have a place on this team other than DH when we play in AL parks and filling in for Ward. Spending time trying to build up his non-existent trade value seems like a waste to me. Sure the Cubs could trade him but they won’t get much. Boston will DH Ramirez while Ortiz is out.
That said, I agree with Al, 13 pitchers is ridiculous.
by rlpete on
Jun 6, 2008 9:12 AM CDT
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Hoffpauir vs. Murton
It’ll depend on how many RHP and LHP are scheduled to pitch for Toronto, Tampa and the White Sox, the three AL teams we play on the road.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jun 6, 2008 9:13 AM CDT
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You know Zambrano's going to want to bat in these parks
but I’m certain Lou will DH for him.
Or will he???? Hmmmm.
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by flachimesa on
Jun 6, 2008 10:29 AM CDT
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That's a good question
it’ll be interesting to see what Lou does in this respect. I would guess that he would use the DH to protect Z from any injuries he may sustain running the bases etc. But just to replace Z’s bat, there is no reason to do that.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Jun 6, 2008 10:32 AM CDT
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I definitely agree that Lou shouldn't let Big Z DH but...
...I wouldn’t be completely surprised if he did. Lou’s been very generous with Carlos’ ABs thus far, always letting him have that last plate appearance when he pitches and even using him as a pinch hitter. I’d prefer not to take the risk, but Carlos seems to have a way of persuading Lou otherwise.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 6, 2008 10:57 AM CDT
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Once a pitcher bats for himself
you can’t use a DH later in the game. So while we’re pretty comfortable with Z at the plate, we’d either have to have Howry, Eyre, Marmol, etc., bat for themselves, or use up PHs for their atbats. That would be a disadvantage if the host AL team is using a DH.
I was at a Sox game the first year of the DH rule, and late in the game a pitcher batter for himself. It was noted as the “first time” that had happened since the DH was established. I wonder how many other time that’s happened – I sure don’t recall seeing any others. Not that I watch a lot of AL baseball, but still.
by ChipSet on
Jun 6, 2008 6:37 PM CDT
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Soriano as DH?
In the AL parks, make Soriano the DH. Put Johnson in LF and Edmonds in CF.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on
Jun 6, 2008 11:25 AM CDT
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I like the sound of that
and bat Johnson 9th
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Jun 6, 2008 11:26 AM CDT
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That...
is not a bad idea.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
Jun 6, 2008 11:26 AM CDT
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+3
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on
Jun 6, 2008 11:34 AM CDT
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Fourthed.
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by Al on
Jun 6, 2008 11:37 AM CDT
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Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 6, 2008 1:08 PM CDT
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nope
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by digitalbenjamin on
Jun 6, 2008 1:14 PM CDT
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The problem with that idea is that one of Johnson/Edmonds...
...is going to be on the wrong side of their platoon split. Against a lefty, I’d call up Murton and run out a Murton/Johnson/Dome outfield, with Soriano at DH. But that scenario isn’t likely to come up until the Sox series; unless I’m missing something, the Rays and Jays have only one lefty starter between them, Scott Kazmir.
by cwyers on
Jun 6, 2008 11:42 AM CDT
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I still don't see a problem.
Johnson can play left, and he and Edmonds (as of late) have hit better than Murton. I like the idea of the those two in field with Dome and still not losing Soriano’s bat.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
Jun 6, 2008 11:50 AM CDT
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Here's the problem.
Reed Johnson versus RHP, 2008: .237/.298/.312
Jim Edmonds versus LHP, 2008: .091/.130/.136
This is why there’s a platoon. Factor in the fact that Soriano isn’t likely to hit as well as a DH (DHing is harder than hitting generally), and you’re looking at a recipe for disaster.
by cwyers on
Jun 6, 2008 11:54 AM CDT
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Yeah, Soriano seems so "sensitive"...
...(for lack of a better word) to being taken out of his routine, that I would suspect he’d be disastrous as a DH. He’d have so much pent up energy from sitting on the bench all game, that he’d be swinging at balls before they left the pitcher’s hand.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 6, 2008 12:10 PM CDT
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Then let him also be the batboy.
He can expend that nervous energy retrieving bats, foul balls, and giving the ump fresh balls.
TWSS (preemptive)
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jun 6, 2008 12:11 PM CDT
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It's not just Soriano.
If you look at any hitter, they have a tendancy to hit worse off the bench (PH/DH) than they would if they were batting as part of the starting lineup.
And then you’re talking about using one of Edmonds/Johnson when they don’t have the platoon advantage. In that event, you’re probably better off using someone like Hoffpauir as DH.
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Jun 6, 2008 12:15 PM CDT
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Except that bastard
Pujols. That’s a scary dude.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
Jun 6, 2008 12:17 PM CDT
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That should be exactly the 10th day after Big Hoff was sent sent down.
So, he’ll be back for interleague play.
That’s nice timing for us… and gives us a chance to showcase Hoff for the AL.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
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Jun 6, 2008 12:26 PM CDT
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I think you miss the point
The statement was that DHing is harder than hitting generally. Generally.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on
Jun 6, 2008 3:06 PM CDT
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What about running Onedec out to left?
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by californiachicagoan on
Jun 6, 2008 3:07 PM CDT
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More likely what you'd do is put Cedeno at second...
...and put DeRosa in left. Which I think is a better option.
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Jun 6, 2008 3:12 PM CDT
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Last year, Lou went with ARam at DH
the last 3 games, all wins against the Sox. He was productive as a DH in 2 out of 3 games, with 4 hits, including a HR, a double, one HBP and 2 RBI in 13 PA.
What will Lou do (“WWLD”)?
Maybe keep Soriano and his arm/assists in LF, move DeRo over to 3B and platoon FonteYES (against righties) and Onedec (against lefties) at 2B?
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
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Jun 6, 2008 3:48 PM CDT
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Last year, ARam had chronic leg issues...
...and needed the days off anyway. This year it’s Soriano with the leg problems. You do it as much to rest Soriano’s legs to try and keep him healthy as you do anything else.
by cwyers on
Jun 6, 2008 3:55 PM CDT
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Good point!
n/t
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on
Jun 6, 2008 3:56 PM CDT
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Lou is that you?
I like this a lot… so many more options in an AL batting order. A whole different dynamic.
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on
Jun 6, 2008 11:47 AM CDT
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Prediction...
... Hoff will end the year in Cleveland.
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by digitalbenjamin on
Jun 6, 2008 9:52 AM CDT
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Is hafner
expected to be out that long?
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Jun 6, 2008 9:53 AM CDT
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His DL stint, as of yesterday,
is “indefinite,” according to YahooSports. Apparently, his shoulder is still too weak to swing a bat.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
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Jun 6, 2008 10:16 AM CDT
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I'm not really in the "Hoffpauir camp".
I’m in the camp of GET RID OF THE 13TH PITCHER!!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jun 6, 2008 9:00 AM CDT
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CMON AL!
Give a little. Why not Patterson or Murton then?
How does that make you feel?
by Kinky Reggae on
Jun 6, 2008 9:31 AM CDT
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Lou loves...
...the left handed power hitter.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis
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Jun 6, 2008 10:20 AM CDT
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I'm with you Al
13 is at least one pitcher (and possibly two pitchers) too many.
"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979
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Jun 6, 2008 3:47 PM CDT
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Amazing
how when you are tired, superstitions are hard to maintain. I was trying to keep the remote in my hand so as to fool the gods again…just my thang…and I fell asleep and dropped the romote and woke up to a tie game a la Bob Howry Cow.
How does that make you feel?
by Kinky Reggae on
Jun 6, 2008 8:35 AM CDT
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Didn't see the game
but I happened to flip over to FSN in time to see Dukes’ shot. It was mammoth, probably 410 to straight-away center. I actually found myself yelling, “Go, go, go!” urging it along like I would a Cub.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
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Jun 6, 2008 8:42 AM CDT
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For his first Bomb
it was very impressive. Great timing too.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on
Jun 6, 2008 9:32 AM CDT
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The Cardinal who hit the go ahead home run
in the top of that inning, that was his first career home run too.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Jun 6, 2008 9:35 AM CDT
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And a Pitcher!!!
Mark Worrell
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on
Jun 6, 2008 9:50 AM CDT
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First at-bat, too.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
Jun 6, 2008 9:53 AM CDT
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If Howry had taken the t-shirt from SWL in San Diego
He never would have given up that home run.
Respect the shirt!!
by AlabamaCubFan on
Jun 6, 2008 8:46 AM CDT
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Amen.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jun 6, 2008 10:57 AM CDT
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Heck yeah.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 6, 2008 11:32 AM CDT
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If it helps Keep Dome happy
I’d be happy to contribute to some sort of “nanny” fund that would allow them to hire an entire entourage to make sure they were comfortable WHEREVER they were. :)
Seriously, it’s really cool his family is finally here to share this great experience.
by AlabamaCubFan on
Jun 6, 2008 8:59 AM CDT
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Elijah Dukes
Al, did you ever think you would be typing “give thanks to Elijah Dukes”?
Cubs starting pitchers
Last 9 “Non quality” starts, cubs record 9-0
Last 1 “Quality” start, cubs record 0-1
It is an easy game.
by gocubsgo22 on
Jun 6, 2008 9:10 AM CDT
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Kerry Wood had me scratching holes
in the back of my couch. So glad he managed to eke out the last K. Goodness, that was painful! Go Cubs.
by Emelie on
Jun 6, 2008 9:10 AM CDT
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His last pitch
I saw on Comcast highlights and it was all gas lightsout flame. This is why he’s the closer. Stay healthy Kerry, stay healthy.
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on
Jun 6, 2008 9:32 AM CDT
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absolutely
the very last pitch was faassst. Bottoms up to health.
by Emelie on
Jun 6, 2008 9:36 AM CDT
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You are not kidding.
I’ve taken to calling him “Kid C” – the “C” is for “Cardiac”. THROW STRIKES AND STOP HITTING BATTERS!!! Jeezus – that’s six hit batsmen this year. For someone that only pitches one inning every other day or so, that’s excessive to say the least.
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"
by lostinthevines on
Jun 6, 2008 9:49 AM CDT
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Do you want to face Kerry?
Knowing that he HAS hit 6 batters and is throwing over 95 MPH. I don’t care how accomplished the hitter is that has to be in the back of their mind. I know we fans don’t like it but the byproduct is fear in the hitter and that is certainly what you want from your closer. Just quit loading the bases Kerry and making us nervous. Hit a guy if you want once in a while just to keep batters on their heels. (I wonder if Kerry….deep down inside…..gives a little chuckle when he drills someone and says to himself “They aren’t going to be comfortable against me!” Kind of a sadistic evil pitcher thing going on.)
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on
Jun 6, 2008 10:14 AM CDT
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That's what I was thinking.
Maybe he’s establishing his reputation early so come playoff time batters won’t know what to expect. Wood did play with Maddux, the master of baseball foreshadowing.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
Jun 6, 2008 10:19 AM CDT
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The best example of this that I can remember
is when Randy Johnson was pitching to John Kruk (the only reason I remember this is b/c they talk about it weekly on baseball tonight it seems). Randy threw the first pitch high and hard about two feet over Kruk’s head. Kruk always says all he wanted to do was be able to walk back to the dugout after that at-bat
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Jun 6, 2008 10:19 AM CDT
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LOL
I remember that conversation.
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on
Jun 6, 2008 10:25 AM CDT
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All Star game
Wasn’t it?
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by iluvryno on
Jun 6, 2008 2:59 PM CDT
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Despite the heart palpitations last night...
Since blowing a save at home against Milwaukee on May 1, Wood is 13 for 14 in save chances with a 0.93 ERA and 25 Ks in 19 1/3 innings.
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by digitalbenjamin on
Jun 6, 2008 11:55 AM CDT
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I was one of those who were
ready to ditch Wood after opening day, the brutal Milwaukee loss, etc. and I’m very happy to admit that it looks like I was wrong. He doesn’t always make it look pretty, but right now he’s doing the job and that’s enough.
As for D-Lee-I think it’s interesting that people are always ready to talk and argue about dropping Soriano from the lead-off position but people rarely talk about dropping Lee from the three hole where he’s been going through brutal streaks all year long.
by bluekoolaide on
Jun 6, 2008 9:18 AM CDT
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It was normal time for once for us west coast people...
...but when it isn’t normal it’s usually better for us because the games are ending earlier or are done when we get home from work, LOL…
Nice write up of the game. I got out of my laziness a little a week or two ago and looked up Wood’s stats and he’s pitched very well. He has had essentially 3 poor outing (2 against the Brewers) that have inflated his stats. But when you look at his production in total, he’s getting it done and he’s doing it well. Part of the problem with perception is that you tend to remember the 3-4 HBPs because you don’t see that much unless your closer is Mitch Williams, so it sticks with us. But you look at his stats in total and his WHIP being under one (very good for Woos) and he’s really produced in this role. What upset me last night was walking the King of the Judys, Juan Pierre, it was frustrating, LOL…
There is an enormous amount of pressure that comes with trying to carry the weight of 100 years of losing. This team is surely going to hit some rough spots ahead because of that pressure and because the rotation is not providing enough innings and IMO, Lou mishandles this pen. Al is right on about the one hitter reliver—it hurts your bullpen because you make too many changes. Lou has got to commit to other guys longer and let them pitch or there won’t be much left in the arms of the 3 Amigos come September. It particularly makes no sense when you are carrying an absurd number of pitchers on the roster.
Lou needs to step back from 100 years of pressure building and put 2 more everyday players on the roster and give the 3 Amigos more rest (or at least Marmol). There’s a long way to go and we need to be able to cross the finish line. I am loving watching this team but I cringe when think of a possible collapse down th stretch-think good thoughts-we are winning and we take it one game at a time. Go, Cubs!
by DudeVf11 on
Jun 6, 2008 9:20 AM CDT
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Zzzzz...
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"
by lostinthevines on
Jun 6, 2008 9:50 AM CDT
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you need to get more sleep
respect the opinion
by cubsonWGN4ever on
Jun 6, 2008 12:29 PM CDT
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Cut Lou a break
So far he has pulled all the right strings. If he had left he relife in longer who knows ? We probly dont have the record we have now. Win now and let the baseball gods take care of the rest.
by cubbierc on
Jun 6, 2008 10:16 AM CDT
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Don't forget
our shortstop has moved his table-setting average up to .330. Night in and out he has got on base. His 9th inning hit last night was the key to the win.
Also, I am amazed Edmonds is hitting after all looked lost and even I said he was done. He is looking like a great platoon partner…..for now at least. The bottom of our line-up has to be a nightmare for opposing pitchers with Johnson/Edmonds, DeRosa, Soto and our hitting pitchers.
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on
Jun 6, 2008 9:36 AM CDT
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Didn't watch the game
But checked the MLB.TV archive to see Edmonds’ hits, to see if they solid or not. Pleased to see how hard he hit that fast ball from Billingsley to straight right field, and the other one was a solid line drive to center. His “new” old swing seems to be working pretty well for him.
"Let's not get too giggly." ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on
Jun 6, 2008 9:39 AM CDT
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I agree -- Edmond's stock continues to rise...
... on my own personal NASDAQ index. He hit both of those singles awfully hard—they definitely weren’t cheapies. And it’s getting harder and harder to argue that his bad speed has slowed down considering he got the first of his two hits off of Billingsley, who was throwing smoke for at least the first couple innings. The catch in centerfield was nice, though I still can’t help but think Felix would have caught that ball around his waist rather than six inches off the ground.
In any case, slowly but surely, you’re winning me over, Jimbo Ballgame. Please continue.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 6, 2008 11:06 AM CDT
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It's odd
but it seems that eliminating the stride from his hitting approach has actually sped up his bat. I don’t know that much about the mechanics of a swing, but it would seem that eliminating the stride would decrease bat speed. Maybe it was his timing all along and not just bat speed and eliminating the stride has bettered his timing at the plate.
Either way, I am glad to see that Hendry’s gamble is seeming to pay off for us. Edmonds has help us out both offensively and defensively since his arrival, here’s to hoping it continues
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Jun 6, 2008 11:09 AM CDT
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I think eliminating the stride
shortnes the entire swing process, by eliminating that step. I am not sure if his bat is actually faster, but the time from decision to contact is shortned this way. I would assume it would cost some power. But Jimmy probably has gained some “old man strength” by now.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on
Jun 6, 2008 3:13 PM CDT
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I guess this is mostly reiteration, but...
Lou should shuffle the batting order to try and take some pressure off DLEE. He can sometimes tend to lose his concentration and start committing on pitches too soon. He should bat 6th or 7th for a while.
And how about The Riot? You’ve gotta give all the credit to Lou for sticking with him despite the early success of Cedeno, who many were clamoring for just weeks ago. With his .335 average, how many NL teams could be sending him to the ASG as their lone representative?
by Jerry Mumphrey on
Jun 6, 2008 9:37 AM CDT
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The Pen has been addicting lately...
...So i am sure it is a security blanket for Lou. Pen has been carrying them lately, so they were due for a hiccup (just baseball). Nice to see Kosuke have a good game on the road and Edmonds continue to contribute. Had a couple great catches last night.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on
Jun 6, 2008 9:38 AM CDT
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Kosuke's late inning heroics
I’m pretty sure this was Kosuke’s first late inning game winning RBI for the Cubs. He’s had other “game winning” runs (technically speaking) but usually not in the 8th or 9th, so it’s not talked about as much. The Japanese press has got to love it seeing it come off Saito as well.
by southloop on
Jun 6, 2008 9:51 AM CDT
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I know it isn't game winning
but his opening day home run was pretty big in my book
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Jun 6, 2008 9:58 AM CDT
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Lee is definitely scuffling
I’m not worried long term, but he’s not helping us right now.
by AceCubbie on
Jun 6, 2008 9:53 AM CDT
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He is in the field...
Makes those tough dig outs at first look easy. I think we take that for granted. Look what happened when Hank White played first.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on
Jun 6, 2008 9:57 AM CDT
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+1
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
Jun 6, 2008 10:06 AM CDT
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He is absolutely elegant in the field
He’s graceful and like every world class athlete makes it look easy as pie.
by Emelie on
Jun 6, 2008 11:41 AM CDT
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Felix?
:)
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Jun 6, 2008 11:45 AM CDT
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I thought that too.
I can’t read “pie” or “dome” without instinctively placing the accent.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
Jun 6, 2008 11:47 AM CDT
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Key though is
he’s not hurting us either because his glove is still fabulous. He isn’t taking his bat into the field, as they say
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Jun 6, 2008 9:58 AM CDT
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200/222/200 in his last 7 games with 9 K's
....he is clearly struggling. Historically he gets very hot in June, so lets hope its right around the corner.
One of the many great things about this years team is how they can still win when thier best hitter is struggling like this.
Felix Pie must play everyday!
by JB 23 on
Jun 6, 2008 10:00 AM CDT
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So true,
a few years ago if Lee or Aram didn’t hit we didn’t have a chance. This team is pretty special in the fact many stars sharing key hitting highlights. This team can play sustained winning baseball because of this.
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on
Jun 6, 2008 10:03 AM CDT
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Yeah, I keep reminding myself that...
...DLee has gone through slumps like this before, and he’s always come out of them. It’s hard to watch, but ya gotta have faith that he’ll pull it together eventually.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 6, 2008 11:10 AM CDT
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Case and Point
One of your star players goes down (Soriano) and the team goes on a winning streak.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on
Jun 6, 2008 10:05 AM CDT
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Huh?
Soriano was very much a part of the just ended 9-game win streak. The Cubs went on a 6-game Win streak while he was out, however.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Jun 6, 2008 10:20 AM CDT
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I think he was referring to
the winning streak/percentage the team had while Sori was out earlier in the season
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Jun 6, 2008 10:22 AM CDT
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Exactly...
Back then, Lee carried them along with Soto.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on
Jun 6, 2008 10:25 AM CDT
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And Dome...
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on
Jun 6, 2008 10:25 AM CDT
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Nitpicking
It’s “Case in point” which is a short way of saying “an example of what we are discussing”
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on
Jun 6, 2008 10:38 AM CDT
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Sorry at work
and trying to multi-task.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on
Jun 6, 2008 10:39 AM CDT
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No need to apologize
it’s one of those “doggie dog world” things
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on
Jun 6, 2008 10:48 AM CDT
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Home is where the hardest.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
Jun 6, 2008 10:51 AM CDT
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I get
carpool tunnel syndrome typing all of these replies
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on
Jun 6, 2008 10:53 AM CDT
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Thanks
for Clownin’ the new guy. Appreciate it. :)
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on
Jun 6, 2008 10:56 AM CDT
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That's the joke.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
Jun 6, 2008 11:16 AM CDT
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:)
I laughed so hard when I saw that, that I choked and my wife had to do the Heineken remover
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on
Jun 6, 2008 11:18 AM CDT
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mmmmm . . . Heineken removal
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Jun 6, 2008 11:20 AM CDT
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That's called
“Sunday morning in front of the toilet.”
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
Jun 6, 2008 11:21 AM CDT
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Or
praying to the porcelain goddess
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Jun 6, 2008 11:22 AM CDT
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Or
taking the Browns to the Super Bowl.
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on
Jun 6, 2008 11:24 AM CDT
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Or
Dropping the kids off at the pool
Dome-san!!
by Goat Whisperer on
Jun 6, 2008 11:43 AM CDT
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Or
releasing the chocolate hostages.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jun 6, 2008 11:59 AM CDT
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Driving the Porcelain bus
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
by El Borto on
Jun 6, 2008 1:09 PM CDT
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Or
going poop!
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by digitalbenjamin on
Jun 6, 2008 1:14 PM CDT
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Ha-ha, I think this is the best one yet.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
by Blue W on
Jun 6, 2008 11:21 AM CDT
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I shouldn't read these...
It gives me a “low self of steam”
:)
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Jun 6, 2008 11:40 AM CDT
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You know what can give you low self of steam?
Reptile Dysfunction
I haz show: http://hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on
Jun 6, 2008 12:15 PM CDT
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As Pete Townsend sings:
Let Milo Open the Door
by N Oakley on
Jun 6, 2008 12:16 PM CDT
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As Robert Palmer said:
“Might as well face it, you’re a d**k with a glove.”
Hey… wonder if he’s talking about Bonds
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by digitalbenjamin on
Jun 6, 2008 12:22 PM CDT
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not
Clemens?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on
Jun 6, 2008 12:41 PM CDT
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for all intents and purposes… I think we’re taking this Cubs team for granite.
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by digitalbenjamin on
Jun 6, 2008 12:01 PM CDT
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That's true but..
it could be a blessing in the skies…
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Jun 6, 2008 12:01 PM CDT
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You guys are slowing down
my labtop
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on
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love it!
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by digitalbenjamin on
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I'll be right back. I have to visit the ATM machine.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 6, 2008 12:10 PM CDT
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Don't forget your PIN number
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on
Jun 6, 2008 1:14 PM CDT
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I always forget mine...
I think I have “old-timers disease”...
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Jun 6, 2008 1:24 PM CDT
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For all intensive purposes
you should get that checked out
Go ahead, Z me.
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Jun 6, 2008 1:33 PM CDT
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Arigatou Saito-San
On Takashi Saito bobblehead night at Dodgers stadium, thank you for another blown save, sir!
by JFCubFan on
Jun 6, 2008 10:12 AM CDT
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Saito and Dome are very close and good friends
Now Dome has two hits against Saito and this time is game winning – can they have dinner together again?
Sure they will.
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
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Jun 6, 2008 10:40 AM CDT
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Is Saito still buying?
:D
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
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Right
The elder have to pay. That’s the commandment in (Japanese) sports world, even the younger is superstar and the elder is not.
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on
Jun 6, 2008 11:19 AM CDT
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Nice.
And now Dome’s family is in town so the bill is doubled!
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
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Cuban on ESPN 1000 right now
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by Jayo525 on
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My concern about Kerry
is that it takes him time to get in the groove. As a starter, the book on Kerry (as with a lot of starters) is to get to him early because he gets stronger as the game goes on. As a closer he does not have that luxury and needs to be throwing strikes right away. Marmol seems to be able to get into throwing strikes right away and so seems to fit the closer mold. Kerry would have the same problem as a setup man as well so not sure how he can overcome this. I guess we will just have to accept the fact that by the end of the season we will all have our hair more grey or bald, no nails, a worn out path in our carpets in front of the T.V., no more voice and new cuss words. Such is the life of a Cubs fan in 2008.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
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Last Night in the Overflow
I pissed off Shanghai Badger with this…
i smell another hee seop choi
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That was after a comment was made about Dodgers infielder Chin-lung Hu. I want to take a minute to clarify my comment, as I unknowingly insighted a minor riot, which was NEVER my intention.
The first year I REALLY got into the Cubs was when Hee Seop Choi fever was hitting the town almost as much as Fukudome Fever has hit it this year. Hee Seop was the “first baseman of the future” and was about as hyped up as any played I’d ever heard about, and I was so excited to see him play. Unfortunately, he did… and the hype was far from deserved. In only 80 games he hit .218 with 8 home runs. You can blame his collision with Kerry Wood on June 7, 2003 for some of his strugles, but still, a major disappointment.
Hee Seop went on to have a decent career, hitting .240 over the next two yaers with the Marlins and Dodgers, and is now playing with the Kia TIgers and doing ok, from what I’ve heard.
Hu with the Dodgers came up with the same fanfare, comparisons to Jimmy Rollins have been made, and he has a lot of weight to carry on his shoulders, and I wish him nothing but the best, once the Cubs leave town.
However, my comparison was never based race, solely on how both players were over hyped and have under delivered. I appologize if I upset anyone, but this forum isn’t a place for discussions of anything other than baseball and life, in my opinion. I’m here to have fun, joke around a little, and most importantly support the Cubs. To Shanghai and anyone else I upset last night, I am sorry – but please, understand I meant no harm, and hopefully stuff like this never happens again!
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Regardless of who you compare him to
I agree with you, Hu as a prospect is very overrated. I don’t see much to get excited about.
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Jun 6, 2008 10:55 AM CDT
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He is very fast though
I thought Dome got to the ball pretty quickly, but Hu got to third with no problems
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Jun 6, 2008 11:01 AM CDT
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When I first read you comment last night...
I was thinking the same thing as you. A comparison of baseball players and the hype they recieve. No need to apologize in my opinion.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Jun 6, 2008 11:10 AM CDT
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Choi was an overrated, overhyped stiff
and so is Hu, so I say your analysis was right on!!!
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I saw it and thought
This is the downside posting (email can have the same effect). It’s tough to really understand a persons meaning if you’re just reading it.
In the future—video blogging.
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Jun 6, 2008 3:05 PM CDT
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Anyone else want to SHOOT Dempster last night...
...when he KEPT going 3-0, 3-0, 3-0 – ARGH!!! By the time Soto FINALLY came out to ‘talk’ to him, Lou was already coming out to GET him. They’re (Cubs) usually more ‘on top’ of that sort of thing – where someone usually would go out there sooner and go YO RYAN – THROW SOME F*CKING STRIKES!!! Drove me nuts.
(yes, I feel better now – thanks bundles)
Wait a minute... who am I here?
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Jun 6, 2008 10:42 AM CDT
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Heck Yeah...
...seems like it’s been that way with him a lot lately. The last Rockies start too.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on
Jun 6, 2008 10:49 AM CDT
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A bit of pet peeve of mine
is people expecting players to do something that they have never shown a tendency to do. For example, the people that post that Soriano should be more selective at the plate. He never has been and thinking he will change at his age is hopeless.
Likewise Dempster has never been a control pitcher. His lifetime numbers are 666 walks in 1299 innings. That’s better than a walk every two innings. So far this season his numbers have actually been better than his career numbers. It may drive you crazy but that’s Ryan Dempster. He’s going to be wild.
by rlpete on
Jun 6, 2008 11:01 AM CDT
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Guess you
don’t notice it as much when he was only pitching an inning at a time as a closer.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
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Yes
2005: 92 IP/49 walks
2006: 75 IP/36 walks
2007: 66 IP/30 walks
2005 was really bad. The other two seasons just under a walk every 2 innings. So far this year:
2008: 80 IP/35 walks
by rlpete on
Jun 6, 2008 11:09 AM CDT
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Gotcha.
Guess for me, it get’s magnified more as a starter.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
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Jun 6, 2008 11:16 AM CDT
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I've Been Spoiled
By players who made adjustments as they got older and corrected their weaknesses. Jim Rice,for example, wasn’t known for his glove when he first came up with Boston but in time he made himself into a very good (and underrated IMO) outfielder. And I think of Sammy, who became a more selective hitter after years of flailing and hacking.
One time Keith Olbermann was mocking baseball fans who believe any player can hit and field like an All-Star “if they just tried harder”. I think he meant me! LOL
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Jun 6, 2008 11:11 AM CDT
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I'm not sure I'd agree with you on Rice
You are right on Sosa. It does happen occasionally but not that frequently. I wonder on Sosa though how much was pitchers no longer wanting to pitch to him versus better selectivity at the plate. When you go from 36 HR’s to 66 HR’s, pitchers are going to be a little more cautious.
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Jun 6, 2008 11:22 AM CDT
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True True
Not everyone can make big changes in themselves after years of doing things a certain way for a long time, and that goes for most walks of life.
I can accept Soriano and Dempster for what they are, and it’s easier when the rest of the club can pick up a guy when he’s slumping or underperforming.
by CaliCub on
Jun 6, 2008 11:27 AM CDT
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Funny you should mention it.
Take a look at Soriano’s Fangraphs page and scroll down to plate discipline. He’s actually swinging a bit less, compared to last season. Again, sampling issues may be present.
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Jun 6, 2008 11:48 AM CDT
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That extends to the team as a whole this year.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
Jun 6, 2008 11:52 AM CDT
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I’ve noticed the improved plate discipline since he came back from his injury this year (and you can see his production improved too)
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Jun 6, 2008 12:03 PM CDT
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They mic
NBA and NFL players all the time. I would love to hear one of these catcher-initiated chat sessions.
“Ryan, I was just talking with Fox, and they said if you don’t start throwing strikes they’re not going to let you do your Harry Caray impression on Saturday. So, you know, get to it.”
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
Jun 6, 2008 11:03 AM CDT
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If it makes you feel any better...
...Dempster was clearly as frustrated with his performance as you were/are with it. After Lou pulled him, he slammed his glove on the dugout bench and disappeared into the clubhouse to vent his anger privately.
What can ya do—he threw four great innings and then fell apart. I believe he ran into a similiar problem during his 5/31 start. (A game I attended.) I just hope it’s not a sign that his endurance is starting to run out.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 6, 2008 11:16 AM CDT
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Dempster's endurance
“I just hope it’s not a sign that his endurance is starting to run out.”
I have fears of this as well.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
by Blue W on
Jun 6, 2008 11:18 AM CDT
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Vin Scully
I love the guy. I spent a lot of time in SoCal listening to him. But he annoyed me last night with two of his comments “The Cubs look like they’re kinda standing around waiting to be caught” and “the rookie catcher talking with the veteran”.
Also, Vin should learn to pronounce MLB players’ names.
Regarding the Soto-Howry discussion, maybe Vinny was right about Howry not appreciating Soto coming out to talk to him, but I’m not 100% convinced.
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Jun 6, 2008 10:43 AM CDT
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Noticed That Too
He kept saying the bit about the Cubs waiting to be caught ad nauseum – for a minute I thought I was listening to Tim McCarver.
by CaliCub on
Jun 6, 2008 11:14 AM CDT
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Maybe back in the Bob Gibson era...
....but there’s nothing in the Cubs veteran pitchers’ actions this season that tell me that they are “pissed” that Soto comes out. Rookie or not.
That’s just Vin showing his age.
Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ---Crash Davis
by carmen_fanzone on
Jun 6, 2008 11:35 AM CDT
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The Riot
Where would this team be if it wasn’t for Ryan Theriot. God willing he stays healthy this would be his first full season in the majors. Theriot was a key figure last year in helping the cubs come back from that horrible start (22-31). His numbers did drop in September but people need to realize the toll a season takes on a player especially one who plays almost everyday. I believe this kid will be a key player for this organization in the years to come. On a side note I hate Dodger fans…. also a word to wise never sit in the bleachersin Dodger stadium unless you want to get shanked!
"Commit to the Indian!"
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Jun 6, 2008 11:00 AM CDT
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Why I'm Staying Home
My wife said I could probably scrounge for a general admission seat for tonight’s game, but I find Dodger fans that go to the stadium to be obnoxious and stupid. Besides the food and the bathroom is in better shape here at home, and I get the benefit of mulitple camera angles on TV.
by CaliCub on
Jun 6, 2008 11:06 AM CDT
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Also, the traffic leaving Dodger Stadium is pretty horrible even if you leave in the 9th inning.
(Even though we all know that no self-respecting Dodger fan would be caught in Dodger Stadium after the 7th inning.)
But the nice thing is that you can always hang around the Silverlake or Echo Park district in L.A. afterwards and have some good food!
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Jun 6, 2008 11:10 AM CDT
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LOL
(Even though we all know that no self-respecting Dodger fan would be caught in Dodger Stadium after the 7th inning.)
How true.
Wait a minute... who am I here?
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Jun 6, 2008 11:15 AM CDT
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Phillipe's
Great post-game place over by Union Station. Known for the best beef-dip sandwiches in LA.
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My memory from being at Dodger Stadium
Was, as mentioned, no one showed up until the 3rd, everyone left after or before the 7th and, back when he was still an Astro, I realized how easy it was to annoy Moises Alou by having the entire left field crowd yell “ALOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU” over and over again. Of course, him turning around all pissed off (with what seemed like steam coming from his ears) did not exactly help the crowd quiet down. It was pretty funny. :)
Wait a minute... who am I here?
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Jun 6, 2008 11:21 AM CDT
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He was pissed off
but his hands were pissed on.
Hey-o!
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
Jun 6, 2008 11:22 AM CDT
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That calls for a...
...RIMSHOT!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 6, 2008 11:34 AM CDT
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Haha..
I love that thing…keep posting it!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Jun 6, 2008 11:49 AM CDT
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I didn't get to read the game thread, but did anyone else
see TheRiot pull the hidden ball trick on Ethier when he was on 2nd in I believe the 4th inning? Theriot glanced back at second saw Ethier was adjusting himself and mimed tossing the ball back to Dempster. The catchers view camera saw it cleanly with the ball still in Theriot’s glove. He paused, saw Ethier was still stanind on 2nd and lobbed it back to Demp. Didn’t work, but I laughed seeing it.
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Jun 6, 2008 12:02 PM CDT
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Scrappiness Defined!
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
Jun 6, 2008 12:08 PM CDT
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I noticed it too
Thought my eyes were deceiving me!
"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979
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Jun 6, 2008 1:04 PM CDT
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I didn't catch that,
But I would love to see the old hidden ball trick. Such a sneaky, devious, wonderful play
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
by El Borto on
Jun 6, 2008 1:17 PM CDT
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Lucy pulled that trick
Charlie Brown: Where’s the ball? I can’t pitch without the ball!
Lucy: Quiet, you dummy! We’re pulling the ol’ hidden ball trick.
Charlie Brown: We are? Who’s got the ball?
Lucy: I hid it the top drawer of my dresser.
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
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Jun 6, 2008 1:22 PM CDT
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I'm sure some guys try it occasionally and
you only hear about it when successful. In this case, there was a low camera looking at Theriot up close with Ethier behind him. You see Theriot motioning a throw to Dempster and the ball in the glove at his side. Lucky camera angle.
by N Oakley on
Jun 6, 2008 1:44 PM CDT
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I think
if anybody on this team is gonna do it, it’ll be him. Wrigley would go nuts.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
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hidden ball trick
It once worked vs. Ozzie Guillen about 20 years ago, if I remember correctly. He got picked off of first by the hidden ball trick. Can’t recall which first baseman did it to him. It might have happened to him more than once.
"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979
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Rowengartner
and that dude from Scrubs did it once.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
Jun 6, 2008 3:16 PM CDT
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gotta put it up

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on
Jun 6, 2008 11:11 AM CDT
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Upside down
Another person who wears the headband upside down....
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
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Jun 6, 2008 11:50 AM CDT
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I can't read
a word of Japanese and even I can tell that’s not right.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on
Jun 6, 2008 11:52 AM CDT
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The seller should instruct it
or ask me here…
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
by dragonsfanatic on
Jun 6, 2008 11:57 AM CDT
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or they should include an arrow
on the inside of the headband
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Jun 6, 2008 12:00 PM CDT
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LOL, pwned!
Did anyone else catch the postgame on Comcast last night? (Yep, I stayed up and I’m borderline delirious this morning.) Dan Plesac was wearing the headband. Dan always strikes me as…how shall I put this?...simple.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 6, 2008 11:53 AM CDT
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I saw that too..
What a tool..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Jun 6, 2008 11:59 AM CDT
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I posted this in last nights game thread...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
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Jun 6, 2008 12:03 PM CDT
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He wears it upside up... :-)
I'm bleeding Dragons Blue.
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I know this is obtuse,
but what exactly is a “twonk”
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
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Jun 6, 2008 1:23 PM CDT
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facepalm.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
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I take full responsibility for my ignorance,
but your response didn’t answer my question. I would like to know the definition and the etymology of the word “twonk.” Am I a twonk for not knowing what a twonk is? Wasn’t twonk a robot on Buck Rogers? Aren’t twonks those really sturdy trucks that kids play with?
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
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that was Twiggy, wasn't it?
bebebebebebebe… what’s up, Buck?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
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Jun 6, 2008 2:18 PM CDT
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Actually,
it was Twicky
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
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Jun 6, 2008 2:30 PM CDT
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I think Twiggy was a fashion model in the 60s.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on
Jun 6, 2008 2:31 PM CDT
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yeah,
and she played that babe in the Jaguar XKE in the Blues Brothers
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
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"you want I should wipe those dead bugs off your windshield?"
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Jun 6, 2008 2:49 PM CDT
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LOL, good point!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on
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The trucks were Tonka Trucks
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
by Blue W on
Jun 6, 2008 2:21 PM CDT
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You forgot
to use the sarcasm font
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
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I'm still searching for it...
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
by Blue W on
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And yes...this will be on the test.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
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Grazie Mille
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
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The British
have by far some of the best words. Plonker is one of them.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on
Jun 6, 2008 2:35 PM CDT
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I've always been partial to "wanker."
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
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TWSS
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
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LOL, I knew someone was going to do this.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
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That they do.
I’ve inundated myself with British culture these past few years and find myself using their terminology constantly.
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
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If you have picked up the accent too
that’s a bonus
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
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+1
I actually slip into it all the time. I think I’m obsessed. I mean, look at my bloody avatar!
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
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It didn't take Madonna very long.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on
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Or that Hugh Laurie
... oh wait…
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Name this show!!!
“All in know is that in England, they call cigarettes faggs!”
“Well someone tell this cigarette to get me a drink!”
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Quantum Leap?
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I do love "Quantum Leap" though.
"Please move away from this vector and get into another coordinate pronto. There's no access for you in this quadrant." Mike Donnelly
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Me to0..
WARNING!!! I am about to embarrass myself!!!
I also liked that show “Sliders”.
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I like Kari Wuhrer, does that count?
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I suppose...
but she’s no Wade Welles
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Anaconda!
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
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