How About Aaron Cook?
by Kinky Reggae on Jun 6, 2008 1:01 PM CDT
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I know it is a bit less than fanpost worthy but I commented earlier and it was buried in my last post.
According to MLBTR, he may become available. I liked what I saw of him in the recent series and think he would be a solid addition to our rotation. I know many here think that we are fine with our current rotation but I beg to differ.
What say you on Aaron Cook? Can Hendry offer enough? Is he worth it?
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I can see this happening
Just my opinion, but we all know the Rocks are going to unload. I am hearing he is gonna go, why not unload some of our minor league talent and Marquis for this stud
by PieFan08 on Jun 6, 2008 1:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Your poll isn't quite right.
I think Cook would inprove the rotation, but we probably don’t have enough to offer.
The poster above said “Marquis”. Why would the Rockies want him?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 6, 2008 1:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You can change it Al...
I see what you mean but, why wouldn’t the Rox be interested in some of our minor league talent? Especially if they may end up unloading Holliday.
How does that make you feel?
by Kinky Reggae on Jun 6, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because he’s a good “athlete”?
I haz show: http://hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Jun 6, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marquis they might be interested in....
...Colorado’s pitchers should be good at getting groundball outs, and if Marquis shows some form later in the year, his sinkerball style could fit in well there
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
by Musicdude10 on Jun 6, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be very happy to have him...
As long as he keeps up his good pitching.
"You know they're not going to lose 162 games." Harry Caray
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 6, 2008 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kinda goes without saying.
:\
"And there's a...BASE HIT! Fair ball! Fontenot will score! CUBS WIN!" -Len Kasper, 5.28.08
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 6, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As an added bonus
Cook has some, by marriage, Chicago roots. He married into one of my best friends families and I got to meet him back in ‘03, he’s a nice guy if that counts for anything.
Svelte
by ryanbrixenivy on Jun 6, 2008 1:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well here is what counts...
contact him and tell him he would love it here playing for the Cubbies!
How does that make you feel?
by Kinky Reggae on Jun 6, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting.
I doubt Cook has any say in where he’s traded, but that does give an extra boost if the Cubs do acquire him, to keep him here.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 6, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting Cook might be possible.
It will be interesting to see what players become avialable as we get closer to the deadline.
At this point everyone is a long shot. Im sure Hendry will get someone. July should be fun.
BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS!!!!!
by Zy Toro Young on Jun 6, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Kinky Reggae: You liked what you saw of Aaron Cook in the recent series???????
What exactly did you like?
The 10 hits?
The 7 runs? or
The 3 HRs?
Put down the spliff….
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Jun 6, 2008 1:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll say it first: Small sample.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 6, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya Mon!
It was the 10 hits, 7 runs, 3 HRs!
I thought he had nice control over his pitches, he seemed to be rather unhittable most of the game, and I most definitely like his 8 and 3 record and his very low ERA.
But hey, I will put down the spliff when I am good and ready mon!
How does that make you feel?
by Kinky Reggae on Jun 6, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His numbers against the Cubs in Colorado
were much better. 4 hits, 2 runs, 8 IP…
by SuperContext on Jun 6, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
he was going with the Wrigley numbers? I meant the last series. Good, I guess I am not as far off as I thought I was with my recollection.
How does that make you feel?
by Kinky Reggae on Jun 6, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you even look at the Coors Field stats?
How does that make you feel?
by Kinky Reggae on Jun 6, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would love Aaron Cook
Problem is I dont’ think we have enough to offer Colorado if they do indeed become serious about trading him. They would want a couple blue chip pitching prospects at a mininum I believe. We don’t have the commodity in our minor league system right now. Donald Veal and Jeff Smardizija aren’t going to get it done. Doubt they would have interest in Rich Hill given the ballpark they play in.
Get Rich Harden !! 7 starts, 3-0, 41 IP, 49 Ks, 2.61 ERA
by MDBNIU on Jun 6, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL...
but we do have enough in our minor league system right now…for Rich Harden?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 6, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
That’s definitely true. /sarcasm/
"You know they're not going to lose 162 games." Harry Caray
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 6, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
shhh!
why, that’s TOTALLY different, of course.
why is it different?
um. well. I… Don’t try to confuse me with numbers, you sabre-manhatten!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah...
Looking at his numbers, he looks like a slightly better but less durable version of Jason Marquis. Heavy sinker with much better command and would benefit from being away from Coors field but he has only pitched 200 innings once in his career. Not sure if that is the kinda guy you wanna deal away young talent for.
Which is why I will make my case for Rich Harden….
Yes, I completely understand his DL past. I know he has been a DL mainstay for the last 2-3 years. However, he is pitching well this year and, given his injury history, I don’t think he will require the same bounty as C.C. Sabathia. Watch Harden for the next 2 months and if he still has it, I would go after him because he has 2009 on his current contract at like 4-5 mil a year. That gives the Cubs a full year and a half to see if he is over his injury problems and then decide to offer a long-term deal or not. I know its a stretch but he is terrific when healthy.
by smitster2008 on Jun 6, 2008 2:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks for making
an actual valid point about Harden.
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"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Jun 6, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do think Harden would be a good gamble to take for the 2nd half
but i’m not sure he’s worth what billy beane will be demanding, or if we even have it in the system. he’s still not budging on the price for blanton, i can only imagine he’ll ask a lot for harden after a string of recent good starts
by Waveland Ave on Jun 6, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get Rich Harden
His addition would cost a huge boatload. No question also that he is an injury risk. But a 1-2 punch of Zambrano and Harden in the rotation would be devastatingly good come playoff time.
Get Rich Harden !! 7 starts, 3-0, 41 IP, 49 Ks, 2.61 ERA
by MDBNIU on Jun 6, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only you'd mentioned this before...
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 6, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
I’ve been holding back.
Get Rich Harden !! 7 starts, 3-0, 41 IP, 49 Ks, 2.61 ERA
by MDBNIU on Jun 6, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
would anyone give up
Pie, Marshall, Cedeno and some for Harden?
I would if healthy
by plenz on Jun 6, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would not give up Pie AND Cedeno
Patterson/Fontenot, Marshall and Murton is who I would move.
by cubsonWGN4ever on Jun 6, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually....
The word on ESPN and other sites is that Harden, because of his injury past, isn’t going to cost as much as you’d think. Perhaps just one good prospect. If the price is that or even slightly above, he’s well worth the risk, he’s dominating when he makes the mound.
by SamFels on Jun 6, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your right.
Which is why I don’t want Harden.
"You know they're not going to lose 162 games." Harry Caray
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 6, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, Jayson Stark
quoted a team exec as saying that Harden’s price is still too high.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 6, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rich Harden?
Would he be a good addition to our rotation?
How does that make you feel?
by Kinky Reggae on Jun 6, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know what Harden is good for?
My fantasy team, because when he isnt hurt he is dominate and when he is hurt I get to add another player and move him to my DL list. BTW, he has already been on the list this year.
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by Hammer on Jun 6, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Problem is the Dodgers are a viable playoff contender in a putrid NL
I think they can and will compete for the NL wildcard. Lowe is too valuable to them.
Get Rich Harden !! 7 starts, 3-0, 41 IP, 49 Ks, 2.61 ERA
by MDBNIU on Jun 6, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The wildcard?
You must be joking. The current wild card leader is St. Louis. The Dodgers are already 7 games behind them.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 6, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Dodgers will be there in the end...
And ahead of St. Louis. The Dodgers have a lot of good pitching. They get their offense sorted out and they should start humming the 2nd half. They really miss Rafael Furcal. Joe Torre is too good of a manager for that group of guys to finish disappointing. So yeah, I like the Dodgers to be one of the four National League teams who ultimately makes the playoffs.
Get Rich Harden !! 7 starts, 3-0, 41 IP, 49 Ks, 2.61 ERA
by MDBNIU on Jun 6, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good...
because we own them this year.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 6, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 6, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
except for last night.
:D
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The NL wildcard
will NOT come out of the NL West. More than likely it will come of of the East, unless by some miracle St. Louis actually keeps playing at the level they are playing
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jun 6, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget the BrewCrew, they are still the threat in my mind, so
the wild card has to be a possibility for them. No way the Cards compete to the end. They will be under .500 be year end.
by billybuck on Jun 6, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know man
that’s a bold statement for a team who is playing well without all its parts. I hop you’re right!
How does that make you feel?
by Kinky Reggae on Jun 6, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hop you're right, too.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 6, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My vote is for Tim Hudson
Smoltz, Glavine and Mike Hampton are not gonna cut it.
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on Jun 6, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Cook is a decent pitcher
He would be a step up from Marquis and Gallagher, but keep in mind that his stats are currently buoyed by pitching above his head in April, when he went 4-1 with a 2.41 ERA. Since then he’s been the same pitcher he’s always been – ERA in the mid-4’s, solid dependable back of the rotation guy. When it’s all said in done, he’ll finish the year with an ERA+ around the 115 mark like he always does.
He certainly isn’t the #2 starter that people here believe the Cubs need.
by Wreckard on Jun 6, 2008 3:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's still a consistent pitcher unlike Marquis.
He gives you 5-7 inning starts about 8/10 times.
"You know they're not going to lose 162 games." Harry Caray
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 6, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
given our back end
I wouldn’t mind having an actually dependable #5.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sidney Ponson was DFA'd today b/c direspectful
I know I might get torched for this, but hes having a solid year for texas and those numbers should only improve in the nl.
4-1 3.88 ERA
by Rezze21 on Jun 6, 2008 11:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps true, but...
... given that, why would they deal him?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 7, 2008 4:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because he was DFA'd.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on Jun 7, 2008 6:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, right.
I missed the DFA note in your headline. Ponson has had numerous disciplinary problems over his career, and if the Rangers - who desperately need pitching - dumped him, I can’t imagine why any other team would want him at this point.
This isn’t fantasy baseball where you can just plug in numbers and help your team improve. This is real life with real people. Sidney Ponson is a headcase who, despite obvious talent, has been dumped by six different teams.
Forget it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 7, 2008 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind
Your right, it probably wouldn’t be good.
"You know they're not going to lose 162 games." Harry Caray
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 7, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That might not be a bad pickup...
But who gets sent to the minors?
"You know they're not going to lose 162 games." Harry Caray
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 7, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bunk Cook
I say get Josh Banks
"He's been known to cure narcolepsy just by walking into a room. His organ donation card also lists his beard. He's a lover, not a fighter. But he's also a fighter so don't get any ideas. He is....The Most Interesting Man in the World."
by Keystone80435 on Jun 7, 2008 1:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't see why Cook would be available
He just signed an extension. I’d take him, but I would think that the Rockies would hang on to him in hopes of a better 2009.
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 7, 2008 10:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Randy Wolf
As I have said before I don’t think Maddux is leaving but if the Pads ( who are playing a lot
better and in a VERY weak division) are out of it by deadline Towers is shopping him
He is on a one year contract. He will certainly cost but I think a LOT less than most other
suggestions. I know he is not a # 2 but other than Hudson who is going NOWHERE,
Sabathia who will cost some dumb team a lot and is not pitching that well or the much mentioned oft injurred and Harden, I think he is the best choice out there.
I have a funny habit of wanting players who are actually likely to be available and
affordable.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 7, 2008 12:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing a lot of teams will be looking at Wolf.
Depending on how much the Cubs have to give up, he might be worth looking at.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 7, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I think being in a “win now” mentality, the club ought to be willing to part with what they need to to improve our chances. Not saying there are no limits of course but…I would be awfully flexible at this point if I were Hendry.
How does that make you feel?
by Kinky Reggae on Jun 7, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
" affordable " was a relative term
We all know nothing will happen soon. It is going to depend on which teams are out of it
or at least selling by mid-late July and the value and contracts of who they have. Hudson I am
nearly certain has some time to go on his contract so I can’t see the Braves shopping him.
I don’t know Cook’s status. Guy’s like Wolf on one year contracts ( or in the last year of a contract)
are clearly going to be available. It is all relative. For instance I would think the Padres might
be happy with Murton and Pie which I think would be overpaying BUT since neither seems to have any place with the Cubs
For today’s update on pitchers mentioned by posters, Bonderman is out for the season
and Burnett got rocked for 8 runs in 4.1 innings.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 7, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pie and Murton for Maddux???
Uh..no thanks. If that is what you were implying of course.
How does that make you feel?
by Kinky Reggae on Jun 7, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No that was Pie and Murton for Wolf
Maddux as I have explained endlessly is probably not coming but
IF he were , Murton alone OR some decent prospect would do it because
Towers like Hendry before him will do whatever it takes to get him where he
wants to go.
Wolf may well be in pretty high demand come trade deadline. Personally I think
that would be too much but realistically we show NO signs of using either one of them
so if they get you a good “rent a starter” you may want to do it,
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 7, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way too much for Randy Wolf.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To quote from CITIZEN KANE
“Maybe yes, maybe no”
We just don’t know the situation by trade deadline and I don’t see the Cubs doing
anything before then. If Lilly is back to Lilly 07 and Dempster stays at Dempster
08 than you are good shape for the postseason IF you make it. You still need some
solid 3 & 4 pitchers and right now I certainly don’t trust Marquis and Gallagher is just way to unknown.
I said I thought that would be too much for Wolf but realistically the Cubs HAVE
to trade Murton because they are NEVER going to use him and he has value,
Pie that is a little harder but Lou certainly does not care for him so while you and
I may believe Murton and Pie have significant value, the Cubs don’t appear to so
trading them for 2 plus months of Wolf is not as unbalanced as it seems depending on need.
My overall point though was that I think Wolf is a realistic starting pitcher to go for
not a scrap heap like Ponson, Traschel etc and attainable unlike CC & Hudson.
Anyway about 7 weeks to deadline A LOT CAN HAPPEN
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 7, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Padres...
... would want a pitching prospect, too. Murton & prospect for Wolf wouldn’t be unreasonable.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jun 8, 2008 4:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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