Overflow Thread 1: Cubs vs. Dodgers, Saturday 6/7, 2:55 CT
by Al Yellon on Jun 7, 2008 4:16 PM CDT
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so, how we doing
Cubs fans???
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
Hi, Sue!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Dome walks and scores off an RJ ground out. Soriano dinger
and Z kicking butt and taking names
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Soriano "dinger"?
as in “home run”? So it’s 2-0?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup. Leadoff the 6th.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
all freakin' RIGHT!
the way these guys have been pitching, it may be enough!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like it took the team until 2pm PST to wakeup
Except Z, he is always wired.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:21 PM CDT reply actions
McCarver
hey Tim, when a guy throws a first pitch strike 9 out of 20 times, and another guy is 11 out of 23, then NEITHER has thrown a first pitch strike “most of the time”.
Darryl Cousins, furthering his rep
as the dumbest ump in baseball
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
WX Update
Just reposting this link in case it got lost in the jump.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
It's bright and sunny in the region.
Probably not for long, though.
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on Jun 7, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh-oh. Looks like that storm is really starting to come together. Might stay north of the city, though...
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
DING DING DING DING
We have a WINNER!
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
Nope
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
and THERE
is an example of him costing us runs.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
No offense Drew
but how can you claim that if it appears you’re not even watching?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
by the descriptions of how close it was
if he had a better arm, he’d get the ball there faster.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Ehhhh
I also agree w/ THAT throw and of course there have been others but if you’re going to tell me that then I assume you believe he’s saved Rammy’s ass just as much, if not more.
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
He was out.
Yet another shityy damn call from this shitty damn crew. He was calling him safe before he even touched the bag. What a collection of dillweeds.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
can someone be a little more
descriptive? :D
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Kent ground up the middle, Theriot gets to it, throws
over. It’s bang-bang play, but Hernandez is calling Kent safe before he even touches the bag, so it doesn’t matter.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Agreed
That’s what pisses me off. He already had his made mind up. He was safe.
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Well, this is Froemming's old crew, so they're carrying on a proud tradition of Cub-hating.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Lemme guess
Joe West is here also
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
No, he's in a different crew.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
little flare over th bag, Theriot one hops, and throws to 1st
looked like a tie to me.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Theriot throws wide of Lee, Lee leans over to make the catch.
Ump rules him safe, but replay looks like Lee got the ball just before Kent got there. Of course, ump couldn’t see the ball in Lee’s glove like we could on the replay.
bang bang play
not a chance in hell we’re gonna get them with this retarded crew
does this crew of umpires
have a bet on the Dodgers? We don’t get any calls. Pathetic.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
I dunno - that third strike on Kent last night was pretty pathetic
and I’m pretty much a Kent hater. I think this crew just sucks period.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
This is true.
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
wow
sure is fun when the rain is going in multiple directions.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
are you kidding me?
argh.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
to center-leftcenter field. Johnson tried to go up the wall but he was about a foot to the right of where it crossed over
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Angel Hernandez gets the RBI for Kent. Asshole.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
i agree completely.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know why he didn't bunt?
Ron, stop smoking that stuff, it ain’t healthy
by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 7, 2008 4:27 PM CDT reply actions
Blargh.
Tie game thanks to a 2 run homer.
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
Bad call by the ump haunts the Cubs.
Interesting that Piniella says we haven’t gotten a close call yet in the series. Given that managers get in trouble for criticizing the umps, that’s saying something.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
when you are in a pitcher's ballpark
and the umps keep making calls that cost us a run each game, it really gets under your skin.
let’s just post a crooked number and put this one in our rear view mirror. then the umps won’t matter…hopefully.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
What happened to him?
Seems he disappeared after he went to Florida. I can’t argue with THAT trade by the Cubs.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 7, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Do any of the major media outlets realize
The Diamondbacks, Phillies, Cubs, Angels, White Sox, and Red Sox are all in first? Can you remember a break to update us on any of these besides the Red Sox? And the Yanks? C’mon!
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:30 PM CDT reply actions
He was out....applied the tag then bobbled the ball
...but who could expect this group of incompetent clowns to get anything even close to right.
Felix Pie must play everyday!
WTF.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Theriot blows a CS for Soto
McCarver, hop has nothing to do with it. Theriot didnt hold the ball
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:31 PM CDT reply actions
can't catch, can't throw, other then that he is great
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Eh
It was kind of loose inside his glove, but it didn’t look like it came out.
"Let's not get too giggly." ~Lou Piniella
it came out when he snapped the glove up, then he had to catch it when it popped out.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
aaaand
there goes my dish feed. We’re not watching the game on it, but it’s still out.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
Soto caught him stealing. It was a short hop that Theriot fielded then put down the tag really quick, actually
a good play to make that tag. He was out. The ball snow-coned a bit, but Theriot snapped it up so quick that the ball popped out. The umpire called him safe because he was “juggling” the ball.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
That's a bad call, but Theriot needed to be more careful with the ball.
I’ve never actually seen that call outside of an NFL game….
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
true, but the umps could get one right once ever now and then too.
...this has been downright brutal
Felix Pie must play everyday!
True.
Though I’m pretty sure this crew could botch a wet dream, so go figure…
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
You hold the tag, if you are a fundamental SS
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Did Albert just say
the Dodgers had tied the game “for the second time today?” Is he watching the same game? Unless he’s counting 0-0…
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
scrappy of them to tie it
without having scored. :D
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Ugh. Yankee Stadium's Greatest Moments? Are you kidding me? This belongs on the website, not a Cubs-Dodgers game.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Why are we talking about Jeffrey Mayer?!?!?
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Disturbingly few Yankees and Red Sox on that All-Star voting diamond.
Come on voters, get the right players in! All Yanks and Sawx!
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
yeah only 6 of the 8 positions
must be some kind of error with Ichiro and Josh Hamilton in there.
SNEAKY POWER!!!!!!!!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Sneaky power by the Hampster!
Way to go!
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:36 PM CDT reply actions
is there something we can do to make him
cut his hair??
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
tie him down?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
which turns him into...
Theriot?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
but with sneaky power
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
a sneaky Theriot?
he’d be like a Cajun NINJA!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
throwing rakes
little bombs filled with cayun peppah and garlic! I garuntee!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
ha!
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Since we've kicked off Theriot bashing, can I throw this out there?
Theriot, through June 7th, 2008: .329/.410/.395, .805 OPS
Neifi, through June 7th, 2005: .317/.342/.471, .813 OPS
At least Neifi could play D
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
interpretation please for the ignorant...
am I reading this right? Theriot gets on base more, but Neiffi (gulp) had more power?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Yes. A lot more power.
There are few players in the history of organized baseball who have shown less power than what Theriot is showing this season. I ran a quick count this morning – something like 6,000 ballplayers with over 100 PAs have had an OBP higher than their SLG. 4,000 of those were before 1954.
LOL
The replay is even funnier. He dove and was still a good 3-5 feet short of it! WHY NOT KEEP RUNNING, JUAN?
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Why don't we cover Torre's trips to the bathroom, why we are at it?
Imagine, a Yankee not wanting to be a distraction!
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
RJ breaks a bat, but singles anyway.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
alright, Z
make it count.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
ugh
seems like every game we get line drives with a runner on 2nd and they can only go to third and we don’t score
Fonty has to go.
Ball was up the middle, i.e. behind a runner headed to 3rd
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:38 PM CDT reply actions
dang how many bats is that today
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
yeaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
Z!
ZZ
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z!
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:39 PM CDT reply actions
wake up dangit!
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Hahah
its day baseball, I AM awake!
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
why you snorin' then?
lol
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RBI to give the Cubs the lead!!!!!!!!!!!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Did Pat have to remind
of the trade for Hethcliff Can’t Smoke’em? BTW today was Hethcliff’s birthday.
by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 7, 2008 4:39 PM CDT reply actions
Slocumb was a horrid pitcher.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
yay Z!!
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:39 PM CDT reply actions
Go Z!
nice. Now, Sori can hit another dinger, and we’ll put this out of reach.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
nice Z, good work by the bottom of the order
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Given Pierre's arm, I would have sent Johnson at least halfway on the tag :D
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
first pitch, too.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Wish he would stop swinging first pitch
all he does is make outs!
and hit homers.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not a Sori-basher
but I do like it better when he’s patient.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Except when he hits homers like the at bat before this one, right?
:)
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't know
that was on the first pitch, actually.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Soriano's #s on first pitch:
.433/.452/.767
3 HR, 6 RBI
he can swing all he wants on the first pitch as far as i'm concerned.
this confirms it.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Theriot grounds out weakly into a FC. Inning over but the Cubs lead.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
emphasis on "weakly"...that ball wouldn't have made it out of the dirt
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Theriot grounding to the right side. Such an odd occurence...
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
For now, yes, yes they do.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
So does he have amazing aim
or is that luck which will eventually fall back down to normal?
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
actually I think it's
because he’s slow-swinging—so he’s always late on the hit.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
New to the Board
Die hard cub fan – part time vendor since high school (just graduated college) – this is our year. Let’s close this one out.
Welcome to the loony bin!
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 7, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
welcome!
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
How long before teams start playing some kind of
lefty pull shift on theriot?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:42 PM CDT reply actions
I am wondering the same thing
as was Len and Bob last night
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
i mean
it’d be great if they really are that stupid… but it doesn’t make sense that they don’t…
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe if Theriot actually tried to pull the ball
he could be a cajun ninja like Fonty. Sneaky power!
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
sneaky ANYTHING would be nice.
well… almost anything..
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Definitely not a sneaky baserunner this year
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
sneaky caught stealer, you mean?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Pinch hitter, probably, and then top of the order.
Big inning coming up for the Cubs. If Z can get through this inning, we’ll be into Marmol/Wood territory.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
and the question arises .. do we send them?
Marmol and Wood are getting worked quite a bit .. do we rely upon the rest of the staff?
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
The only one I remotely trust is Howry...
and not that much.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 7, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Wood had the night off last night, so he should be good to go.
Cotts maybe for the 8th?
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
And here comes the rain. It is pouring Portage Park. The rain is almost sideways.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
half blind .. good to see you ..
the scrapping Cubbette!
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
hey!
how are you?
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
It's really coming down over here. It'll let up for a minute and then it hits all over again.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
same here in Wrigley
I had to turn my lights on
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I lived in the Chicagoland area for 23 years
and I have no idea where Portage Park is
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Think Six Corners (Irving, MIlwaukee and Cicero)
That’s the heart of Portage Park.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Reports of a very large tornado on the ground near Dwight
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. - Dave Barry
I love that site.
I’m a nerd.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I grew up in Kankakee.
Not sorry that I live in Denver now.
Everyone, keep your heads down!
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 7, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
nice K
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
Z pitch count?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:46 PM CDT reply actions
94-ish
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
White Castle up in the Cub pen
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
He's only on pace for around 100 games
and he’s always got his left arm
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
stop worrying about the runner!
get out of teh inning!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
Theriot drops the ball yet again.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
"today"?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
FRAK! AGAIN!!!
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:49 PM CDT reply actions
are you fuckin serious
SOMEBODY GET THERIOT OUT OF THERE PLEASE
wouldn't have even happened if THERIOT GOT THE TAG DOWN.
But come on Rammy. He bounced it to Lee and Lee couldn’t get it, for once.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
DAMMIT!
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:50 PM CDT reply actions
F----K.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Damn Aram. I hate that sidearm throw
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:50 PM CDT reply actions
Nope. Bad throw by Rammy.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Only because he is a gold glover
normal first baseman has a lot of trouble with that
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
nonetheless, could have a had a better effort to block that ball,
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Well, usually I think Lee comes up with it.
But you can’t assume it so Ramirez gets the E.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
And thats what happens when we talk about how long he'd gone between errors
I guess.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:51 PM CDT reply actions
Oh, for crying out loud!
Stop making Pierre seem like a genius. I did stuff like that in HS.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
all goes back to the fact theriot can't catch the damn ball.
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
bah.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
Theroit
making Al’s case today.
by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 7, 2008 4:52 PM CDT reply actions
Actually, Al's case is that you can put up with Theriot's defense as long as he's hitting.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Fukudome dives and misses the catch, Dodgers score again. 4-3
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Tough play. Still shocked Dome didnt make it though
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
glanced off his glove.
Really tough play, to dive forward and catch a sinking ball like that.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
And another blown lead.
DANGIT!
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:52 PM CDT reply actions
SH*T!!!!!
Dome drops the ball on a diving attempt.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
we clearly have not been playing
as well on defense on the road as we do at home. everyone just seems to lack a bit of concentration on the road. in these close games, it just kills us.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
At no point this season has Theriot been playing acceptable defense at short.
Home, road, day, night, whatever you want to look at. It’s only in games like this that people notice. People don’t seem to be noticing all the balls that skate past him.
can you project what his numbers would be at 2B?
assuming they’d improve at least a little bit, how would he stack up compared to rest of league? and DeRosa?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Dunno.
The confouding factor is his arm.
But, presumably, DeRosa would still be better than him defensively. Certainly better offensively.
yea, I figured range would be range, no matter what, but maybe throwing from 2b would be easier with that weak arm
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Soto has thrown out quite a few
runners, therefore, Theriot has caught a few throws to second. It just seems that Theroit looks more confident on the field at home. On the road he is much more passive and doesn’t charge balls, etc…
But it is not just Theriot, it seems everyone is a bit off on the road.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
wow.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
this is bad, three plays we could have made, and we make none of them
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Looking like the Cubs of old.
I predict a BlueMike appearance in 5…4….3….2
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
yep, and his first comment will be DeRosa should be in RF
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Lou is having a fit right now
and he’ll let everyone know about it soon enough.
by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 7, 2008 4:53 PM CDT reply actions
wouldn't it be something if Lou went out to the mound...
...and kept going and had a few words with Riot at second?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
And Dodger Stadium plays that Six Flags song from the ads so the fans know they're supposed to clap.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
The Botox has gone to their brains.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
That wasn't so much Fukudome's fault.
But that bad call by the ump last inning (before the home run) and the errors have really cost the Cubs.
Leave it to LA to play a disco song during a baseball game.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
wow why is fukudome is getting some bad jumps
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Replayed
not a bad jump.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jun 7, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
3 misplays
Back to the drawing board
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry
Broxton coming in
gotta hold it to 1 until Saito comes in
Day-o? Really? Was that needed?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:55 PM CDT reply actions
Don't worry.
His fists will talk to Theriot later.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
This is so not Z's fault. Inning should have been over a long time ago.
Still though, it’s never good to give up a HR…
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
aw, hell.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
Dammit.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
If it was anything close to what I said
thats not even near awful enough… or long enough.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
this is the worst I remember them playin all year.... sigh....
"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers
Reminds me of the old teams
Where’s Jerry Martin and Larry Bittner?
by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 7, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
wow,we just gave it to them , game over
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
It all still comes down to the blown Kent call
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Jun 7, 2008 4:56 PM CDT reply actions
no it comes down to crap defense
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
I don't think
“crap defense” can really be applied to Fukudome. Nine times out of ten, ARam makes that throw. I won’t make excuses for Riot.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
wasn't talking about fukudome
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Exactly. If Theriot gets the tag down, and Rammy throws it right, inning is over.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Santo was not impressed with Theriot
which means Piniella wasn’t either
"Let's not get too giggly." ~Lou Piniella
i don't know if they could be on tv.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
All should be unearned
should’ve been the second out, and the popup should have ended the inning.
Oops, nevermind...
Because the official scorer inexplicably gave the hitter a hit, the error didn’t technically cost us an out. So the runs are all earned.
Now, if you ask me, that’s a generous “hit” call. If the throw is good, the batter is out by a step. So the runs SHOULD have been unearned, but they are earned. Doesn’t really matter either way.
Defensive bungling
and no breaks from the boys in blue lead to this.
Games like last night don’t bother me. This one does. But these games happen, too.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 7, 2008 4:57 PM CDT reply actions
but i'd gotten used to it NOT happening.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
You think this is easy?
It isn’t. And it’s a long season.
There will be days like this, but that’s not much consolation, I guess.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 7, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
oh i know
id just started to get used to the team playing well.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
To have to put up with this
and Tim McCarver on top of it is just too much.
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Jun 7, 2008 4:57 PM CDT reply actions
could've gotten the ball
on a CS attempt. But dropped it.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Dropped the throw to second that would've caught Peirre stealing, which allowed Pierre to remain on base and score the tying run on Rammy's error.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
second time he has done that today
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
What a joke
The perfect storm….atrocious defense, absolutely incompetent umpiring, bloop hits falling in all over the place and then two blasts. All adds up to a 7-3 deficit.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.
Z did not deserve this
support behind him. We just can’t keep playing like this on the road. It could be a long June.
Lou is going to have to get these guys to start focusing on the road.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
"Keep playing like this on the road"
If the Cubs lose today, that would make them 3-3 on this trip. Overall, they’d be 13-16.
That’s mediocre, which is what you have to be on the road to be successful.
I wouldn’t worry about it.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 7, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I just want them
to play .500 on the road.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
They're not that far from it
And they’re ridiculously over .500 at home. I’ll take it.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 7, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
oh, I think
they’ll get there.
I can’t decide if a loss like this is better or not, than one like last night.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Last night didn't bother me
Cubs just were beat by a superb pitching performance. This is a little tougher to take.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 7, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
i know.
agree completely.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree that at .500
on the road (overall), this should be a very successful Cub team, but let’s not forget that we have only won two series on the road this year. So my concern is that with 23 games coming up on the road (including this trip), I just hope we can go 12-11 or better, not 10-13, which could make for a tough month.
We all forget that the Cubs are actually 7-13 on the road since beating the Pirates in the first series this year. So the fact that we already won 3 on this 7 game trip was a big improvement on the last few trips.
I am not complaining…just hoping for better focus on the road.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
agreed, that isnt too much to ask from a good team
...they handed this game so far to the Dodgers on a silver platter
Felix Pie must play everyday!
Hm. Well, how about that weather? It's now pouring in Evanston.
Sigh.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
well, at least
maybe Marmol and Kerry get more of a rest.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
they have to do it
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
Reason for complaint...
... with the umps strike zone. But the Cubbies defense today has been horrible. It’s really not good but today it’s hurt them.
Umps gave them a run in the 6th...
close call on play at 1st, allowing Dodger to be on base for next batter’s home run. Replay showed the batter was out at 1st.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 7, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Shouldn't you be at a local parish
praying that Carlos Quentin doesn’t get hurt?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
lmao.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Stereotype spoiler...
... I’m not Catholic (nor Irish).
But I’m glad that the Sox have among the best pitcher in baseball.
"But I’m glad that the Sox have among the best pitcher in baseball."
I’ll have to run that one through babelfish before I can respond to it. Funny how you never show up when the Cubs are winning and then cry victim and whine to Al when you get tagged as a troll.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
David a troll?
Bite your tongue! He is merely a civil minded citizen of Chicago who’s best friends are Cub fans.
by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 7, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Intimidator...
... who’s best friends are Cub fans.
True. And I live in the Chicago-area and follow both Sox and Cubs, although my fandom remains with the Sox.
Check the record...
...I’ve been posting here all year, and the Cubbies have been doing very, very well. And you par for course, gloss over the positive things I’ve posted about the Cubbies. Pardon me for not being a cheerleader.
Way to shift the goalposts.
You never, ever show up in games the Cubs are winning, but as soon as something bad happens, lo and behold, here’s Dr Crawdad. Despite you protestations, despite your completely disingenuous posts giving backhanded compliments to Cub players, despite your duration as poster here, your behavior is juvenile and trollish.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
DAVID
are they picking on you?
by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 7, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
This from a guy...
... who has Google scrub his posts for the reason of being “stalked” and then he drops names.
Well you know all about stalking
don’t you.
by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 7, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Hypocrite...
Ironic thought that you claim FEAR as the reason for having Google scrub your posts (many of them hateful, racist, um just like “Sipowitz” and just like “Jeffrey Alsip”) but you enjoy trying to intimidate me.
correction.
Ironic though that you claim FEAR as the reason for having Google scrub your posts (many of them hateful, racist, um just like "Sipowitz" and just like "Jeffrey Alsip") but you enjoy trying to intimidate me by dropping my name.
Why David
I still am, though not as much as when I was younger.
by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 7, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
many would agree with you.
Problem is, it seems Lou doesn’t trust the pen outside of Marmol and Wood. John Lieber is supposed to be the long-reliever, but rarely does he go more than an inning…
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
plus
lieber pitched late last night.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
It happened so fast, it was hard to see that what looked like it might be a 1-2 run inning was getting out of hand. And Z wasn’t pitching poorly until two or three errors in.
We probably have some guys that would be a lot better SS
And Theriot might be able to pitch better than some of our relievers
we have a decent one on the bench...
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Zambrano is kicking a Gatorade cooler in the dugout. Come on, Z. Knock it off, it's one game.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
he is frustrated and I don't blame him, its fine as long as he doesn't punch anything
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
I do, because that's a stupid reaction that could get himself hurt. He has to let it go.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
I dunno.
if he could, he wouldn’t be Z.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly that emotion is big part of his game
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
I don't deny it, but there are better vents than kicking, throwing, etc. He's going to hurt himself.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
There's been a lot of times this season he could have reacted that way, but didn't.
It’s not his fault his defense didn’t back him up. It’s one game, Z. Don’t risk the entire season for one game’s anger.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Nice job by Cotts.
Z really going nuts on the Gatorade coolers…..
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
well we were down 8-1 before and won.... come on Cubbies
"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers
Id rather be watching
The Weather right now…. :(
Why does it seem like when the Cubs play on the road on Fox theres usually a Tornado warnings all over the place. 2 years in a row this has happened When they played against the Phillies and Dodgers on the road. and then today.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
Yeah, it's been a while since I've seen him have a good AB.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 7, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Rammy taking a healthy hack.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
yeah.
yikes.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you let DLee play through his slump, or have him sit?
That is the question. Whether ‘tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune…or to bench him….
good - maybe it would snap him out of this funk
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
but who plays for him if you sit him?
Blanco? Do we really want that?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Edmonds can play 1B too
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Jun 7, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I still don't like Edmonds
and this game on top of the thought of trading Lee for Edmonds at 1B makes me a little ill.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Slings and arrows,
if only for the sake of defense. If Derrek weren’t in there, you’d see a lot more errant throws…
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
My vote is he sits a couple of games.
Where is Micah Hoffpaur when you need him?
Oh, I forgot, we needed that extra pitcher we’re not using in the pen.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 7, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Let him play everyday....he averages 155+ of them a year.
...sitting him wont do any good based on history. He will hit his way out of this
Felix Pie must play everyday!
Worst game
I’ve ever seen Lou manage. I thought Z was supposed to be pulled early today? His pitch count was above 100. Saw that disaster coming a mile away.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.
Cripes
Broxton is throwing 99 mph???
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
Brenly says the gun here is about 2-3 MPH hot, but Broxton can really rush it up there....
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
oh good
someone else agrees. this whole “close relationship with selig” thing creeps me out.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he'd want to be a "good citizen" for Bud
Cut payroll, all kinds of crap that’d hurt the team
and the reisdorf voting for who gets to buy the team
is icky.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly reason why Cuban is being so public about how much he wants the team
he is fighting an uphill battle against the good old boys in MLB.
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
If he were to run the Cubs the way his buddy Selig runs MLB...
we’ll be back in last place before we know it.
I read that Rheinsdorf doesn’t want Cuban either. He’s had enough of him in the NBA.
Selig is going to do all he can to make sure a good owner DOESN’T buy the Cubs so he can protect his Brewers. I don’t necessarily think Cuban is the answer, but it clearly isn’t Canning.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 7, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
This is either very profound
or completely incoherent
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
This is what happens
when your Ace is a mental case and your shortstop can’t make a play. These are issues that hopefully Lou can fix as time goes on. If he can’t, this is just another version of the usual Cubs. Win enough games to get us all excited, only to blow it when it counts.
Don't blow it boys!
Oh, look
BlueMike’s sockpuppet #34.
Z is not a “mental case”. And if you can’t see that this team is better than even last year’s…
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
School's out.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
egg yolk.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
This is what happens
when your Ace is a mental case and your shortstop can’t make a play. These are issues that hopefully Lou can fix as time goes on. If he can’t, this is just another version of the usual Cubs. Win enough games to get us all excited, only to blow it when it counts.
Don't blow it boys!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAnnnnnd here comes the trol attack.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Wow. That pitch was CLOSE.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Don't we remember what kind of an adventure Theriot's throws were...
...when Blanco played over at first? Please, don’t bench Lee.
C'mon DOME!
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:08 PM CDT reply actions
Flomax Game Summary
“You can throw a dart in the Cubs bullpen, and 24 of them can play SS better than Ryan Theriot.”
(Just a joke. I respect scrappy Theriot. Just wondering if Brenly would ever say that about Ryan.)
well there are not 24 guys in the bullpen, but I think you are generally correct
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
either one
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I bet
Dempster could play a pretty good SS.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
marquis is a pretty
good athlete.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
except when it comes to pitching.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
you got a point.
Maybe runners would slow down to avoid his dour face.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
and he might even be able to be that
lefty power hitter Lou wants!
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
cmon.. all we need to do
is get Dome and Soto on, and then the Cajun Ninja can hit a sneaky grand-slam.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
I am not able to watch the game
but a good through to second is not one were the SS has to dig it out of the dirt and then try to make a tag
It was not in the dirt. Don't try and defend Theriot if you didn't see it.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
No, that was per McCarver's idiocy.
I didn’t short hop; it hopped to him and he tried to tag before he had the ball, causing the ball to bounce from his mitt.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
The first one was a bad play by Theriot too...
it wasn’t a perfect throw, but it got there in plenty of time, was a reasonable hop (about six inches off the ground). A good SS makes that play.
and from what else i can tell its not just theriot
ARAM made the throwing error and Zambrano gave up the homeruns. We talk about this team picking each other up. Doesn’t appear to be the case today
Yes, it's not just Theriot...
I will accept that statement. But to try to absolve Theriot of blame in this is wrong too.
which I am definetly not doing
I was pissed at him for last night as well. I am just sick of this its all Theriots fault attitude around here.
Definitely seems like it with your first post in this thread
I don’t think people are saying it’s all Theriot’s fault. There are people who think Theriot is wonderful, and people are just pointing out when he screws up (which is happening somewhat often lately).
I merely stated
a good throw to second is not one where a SS has to pick it out of the dirt and then try to apply a tag. Would you or would you not agree with that?
I know what you said...
Don’t try to dance around the fact that we both know your implication there.
Both of Soto’s throws were good. Considering that you have admitted to not having seen either throw, perhaps you aren’t in the best position to make a claim about them.
Define pick out of the dirt.
Do you mean a short hop right on the money (which that one was0 or a D lee picking a theriot throw kind of pick? Because theres a BIG difference.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
You also admitted you haven't seen the play, so why try and argue the point with those of us who have?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
because it is you
who have made the comments about the throw being in the dirt. I wouldn’t be here if I couldn’t take your word for it.
Both throws were good ones...
The first one was in the dirt, but in plenty of time and a pretty easy ball to catch. That makes it a good throw.
The second one was knee high – also a good throw.
So I'm a liar?!?!?!
LMAO at your ignorance.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
This:
I wouldn’t be here if I couldn’t take your word for it.
Which as I now read, doesn’t mean what I thought it did. LMAO at my ignorance.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
The first drop was a tough play...
but probably should have been made. The second one however, was knee-high and absolutely should have been caught.
Exactly.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
It wasn't in the dirt.
Theriot waved at it in the air and then made the tag while the ball just kept on flying past him.
one of them was a short hopper
but they were both GOOD throws. he just has to HANG on to the ball.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly...
the first one wasn’t an easy play, but definitely a catchable ball. It was a pretty good throw and Theriot had plenty of time. The second one was just a terrible play by Theriot.
if he is MLB shortstop, he has to make those plays
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Right...
that first throw wasn’t perfect, but it was certainly good enough. A good SS has to make that play.
Let's get' em Geo!!!!!!!!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
man - Milwaukee is getting pounded
and unfortunately I’m not talking about the Brewers. the weather radar map looks scary red…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
yeah.
not cool. but i hope it stays north of me. NO MAS!
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
eee gads..... I'm across the lake but I want to take cover...
"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers
whoa, two massive storms coming together. that's a sight to behold.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
Zambro is a mental case,
He’s always been a mental case, and will always be a mental case. That’s not the point, the point is can Lou get him harnessed enough to keep his emotions in check when they need him in pressure situations.
Errors in clutch situations has been the bane of the Cubs for years. Theriot has got to get better defensively or we are in need of a shortstop.
Don't blow it boys!
We have a replacement for Riot
Ronny Cedeneo.
I’d like to see you call Z a head-case to his face. Because, ironically, he’d probably just laugh in yours, and walk away.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
just ignore this guy
this is the 3rd time he’s said the same stupid things.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
not going to argue with the Theriot part
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
School's out.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
if defense is absolutley everything
shouldnt we get rid of soriano
theriots batting average(best on the team) doesnt count for anything?
Sori's in LF
A position where you traditionally hide weak defensive players (see: Manny, Barry Bonds, etc).
SS needs a good defender. I’m OK with Theriot, but wanting to replace him is understandable
not when he doesn't hit for power.
Eventually, opposing teams are going to slide to plug that hole he hits through, then he’ll be back to his .230-.250 average.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
in the 2 hole
not everyone is exactly looking for power
all of his singles ( signs of a lead off hitter?
you don't put Theriot first
because Soriano is the leadoff hitter. He hits very well in that position, and not extremely well in others.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
im not saying he should
but you cant ask him to hit for power if he is a true leadoff hitter
in the 2 hole i think he doing fine
...
I don’t understand this point of view at all.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
The team sucked offensively
Until it changed, then they went out of their minds. It wasn’t just the number of games, it was how bad they were during those games.
either his offense or his defense
have to be great.
Neither are.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Z is out there trying to win
but I would say he was well focused today. I saw little evidence that he lost his cool.
Maybe Lou left him out there for 2 extra batters, but blame that on the fielders for not making plays. That inning should have been over long ago. Don’t put that inning on Z. Z did not blow his cool until he left the game. Nothing wrong with that.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
Asking Zambrano to check his emotions
is like asking Brett Favre to stop throwing so many interceptions. He just isn’t the same player unless he is who he is. You just have to take the good with the bad. Accept it.
Cotts
does pretty well, again. That’s good.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Cotts looking strong again.
It would be nice to have a power lefty like him pitching well out of the ‘pen.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
How to tell the Cubs are losing..
you get the same “lou’s a bad manger” “soriano sucks” “theriots awful” “z’s a head case” crap.
Gah. GET NEW MATERIAL!!!
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:21 PM CDT reply actions
Good point.
And one more reason to believe games like today are just aberrations.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
Hopefully we don't hear these complaints tomorrow.
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Jun 7, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
marquis?
i have no faith in that.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay, but that's a different complaint
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Jun 7, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Ugh.
I ain’t coming here tomorrow. Joe Morgan and Marquis plus blue mike… CAN”T DO IT!
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Zambrano is probably a very good teammate,
and I have no problems with his emotions, as long as he knows when to keep his head straight in crucial situations. Taking out his anger on the Gatorgade is not using your head and could get you hurt. That is not smart. But I love his competitiveness and his desire to win. It’s learning when to fold em, and when to hold em that worries me.
Don't blow it boys!
It's better than punching a teammate
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Jun 7, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Kinda the point of the joke
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Jun 7, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'll bet we can get more Gatorade coolers!
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 7, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
why is anyone worried about this
they are gatorade coolers, big deal. God forbid someone show emotion
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
they're just
plastic. They get replaced.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
The only thing good about the end of this game...
will be the ability to stop listening to the lousy Fox announcers.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
he got one hit, I am sure that earned him another start next week, so sad
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Jump to overflow #2
for an AMAZING sight!
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
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