Overflow Thread 2: Cubs vs. Dodgers, Saturday 6/7, 2:55 CT
by Al on Jun 7, 2008 5:16 PM CDT
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At least we don't have to listen to Joe Buck today!
SITE NOTE: Today's recap will be delayed, as by the time this overflow thread posts, I will be at my son Mark's baseball game and will likely not be home till after 8:00.
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OH MY GOD, YOU GUYS
LOOK WHO ARRIVED ON MY DOORSTEP!
May Mordecai the Gnome save us!
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on Jun 7, 2008 5:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He sure is handsome!
by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 7, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he's our only hope!
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on Jun 7, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is he a lefty with pop?
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Jun 7, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is his name Mordecai?
Was he the uncle of Queen Esther?
by zevkalman on Jun 7, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has three fingers.
And one thumb.
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on Jun 7, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mordecai three finger brown?
"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers
by MiCubsFan on Jun 7, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ding ding ding!
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on Jun 7, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he still pitched better than Marquis
by cocknfire on Jun 7, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahah!
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on Jun 7, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm already in love.
:-D
"I'm the glue, baby." -- Mark DeRosa, about his role on the team
by bluebythebook on Jun 7, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice!!
i want a cubbie elf hat!!
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on Edmonds!!!
"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers
by MiCubsFan on Jun 7, 2008 5:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dammit. This is a tough loss to swallow.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 5:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Game over. Edmonds K's.
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on Jun 7, 2008 5:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sigh......
"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers
by MiCubsFan on Jun 7, 2008 5:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Too bad.
Hopefully they come back tomorrow.
by sue369 on Jun 7, 2008 5:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i hope we cost and don't need to come back!
;)
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, there's tomorrow, they will get back on track then
"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers
by MiCubsFan on Jun 7, 2008 5:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
bah.
well, we haven’t lost three in a row yet this year. I’m betting that record doesn’t fall tomorrow. And then, we tie the series, and can move on.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"it's better to win ugly than to lose pretty"
and losing ugly is the worst!!!!
by Muehl on Jun 7, 2008 5:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tomorrow
a few of our guys will come out on a mission. I’m calling it – 7-4 Cubs.
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Jun 7, 2008 5:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 800 PM SATURDAY EVENING FOR NORTHEASTERN ILLINOIS AND NORTHWEST INDIANA.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 7, 2008 5:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Blue skies/sunny right here - hope you all stay safe where you're at.
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Jun 7, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here
i hope everyone in harms way comes through safe!!
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow. good luck
to all of you in the area. I hope the skies are kind to you.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on Jun 7, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take care all who
are in the areas affected.
by sue369 on Jun 7, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We should have won it
but I blame the loss on Quack Doctor Crawdad.
Why not, he’s got the ability to handle it.
by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 7, 2008 5:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Since he's around...
...I was wondering if he could give us his insight into his GM’s craven nepotism.
by cwyers on Jun 7, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, we haven't loss
3 in a row all year (only team in MLB to not do that).
So it is up to Marquis to get us back in the win column on ESPN tomorrow night.
Let’s go Cubs…back in the win column Sunday night. #40.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on Jun 7, 2008 5:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well that is an inspiring thought
Jason Marquis “slumbuster” ?
More likely 5 1/3 four runs but with a big Cub offensive burst that has been missing
for a while we pull it out
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 7, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone listening on radio?
I’m sure Lou’s postgame comments will be interesting. Anyone willing to give us the highlights?
by cwyers on Jun 7, 2008 5:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll turn on the radio and hook you guys right up!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't been getting much post game
on the west coast road trip, at least via MLB Audio.
"Let's not get too giggly." ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on Jun 7, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least Z walked only 1, according to MLB Box score,
and we used only two pitchers….Get them tomorrow.
by DudeVf11 on Jun 7, 2008 5:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This was a bad loss,
because it was a “Cub loss,” i.e., error after error, pitcher loses his composure, and team gives up a big inning. Yesterdays loss (3-0 Dodgers) was not a “Cub loss,” but a loss that happens to every good team. Today’s was different, and I hope it doesn’t become a trend.
Hopefully, Marquis will be up to pitching an unchararcteristically good game tomorrow. e don’t need two losses in a row.
Don't blow it boys!
by Mr W on Jun 7, 2008 5:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you're the only one calling it that.
It was a bad game. No one disputes that.
And obviously, you’re not really paying that much attention. It’s already been two losses in a row. Tomorrow would be a third loss, if we lose.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
I meant 3 in a row. However, it was a bad loss because of the WAY they lost, that’s what I mean.
Don't blow it boys!
by Mr W on Jun 7, 2008 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a bad loss
but it was the kind of thing you come back from. It was one of those things that you shake off and begin a new day.
by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 7, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point,
I too am looking forward to how they respond tomorrow.
Don't blow it boys!
by Mr W on Jun 7, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think its safe to assume
that Cedeno will be in the lineup somewhere tomorrow
by bheidge on Jun 7, 2008 5:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that's a safe assumption at all.
by cwyers on Jun 7, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well hopefully Lou
is smart enough to realize that Theriot probably needs a “mental” day off
by bheidge on Jun 7, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or at least the fans need a day off from scrappy...
especially with marquis another ground ball pitcher. need solid infield defense, if he can’t trust you to make the plays he’ll pitch even worse!
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A mental day off may or may not help him with catching Soto's throws.
But his inability to make strong throws to first isn’t mental, and that was an issue today as well.
by cwyers on Jun 7, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I replied to you in the other thread.
Totally misread what you wrote. All apologies.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No problem
my main problem was I was trying to form an opinion over text rather than a video feed. I was not trying to cover for someones inadaquecies (butchered the shit out of that word)
by bheidge on Jun 7, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're ripping into Theriot in the postgame.
Ramy and Dome as well.
by cwyers on Jun 7, 2008 5:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm willing to forgive dome
he’s made so many hard plays look easy…. but yeah… theriot has got to make those plays. and rami needs to NOT side arm that one.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't agree with the comments on Dome,
but Theriot and Rammy deserve to be put on blast.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think you can assume Dome makes that play.
That was one he made look a lot closer than most right fielders would’ve; it took talent to even get that close to it. He’s been a top defensive right fielder – everything we’ve been promised and more.
Ramirez has never been that good at throwing over to first – that’s the transaction you make to get his bat into the lineup.
I won’t beat that particular dead horse, at least not in this comment.
by cwyers on Jun 7, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on both.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nicely put.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The highlights!
Ze goggles, ze do NOTHING!
NOT a prettier game the second time around.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Question is how do you stop the bleeding
by cubbierc on Jun 7, 2008 5:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you go out tomorrow
and you win.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a good team that can win any game they play.
They’ll stop the bleeding on their own, don’t worry.
by cwyers on Jun 7, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the bats i'm not worried about
its the leather. or severe lack of.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only leather I saw really bad was Riot
by cubbierc on Jun 7, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been throughly unimpressed by our overall defense.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dome's been a bright spot.
Our outfield on the whole has been pretty good, although most of that is Dome and Pie, and Pie is now rotting in Iowa. Our infield has been less than whelming, though.
by cwyers on Jun 7, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
I wish PIe would come back.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh. Just the past two days. This team
is just as likely to score 12 tomorrow.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
THey have played, what, 13 in a row?
Sneak out a victory Sunday night, take the day off Monday and come home to victimize the Braves, who can’t win on the road if their lives depended on it.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 7, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sacrifice a virgin chicken
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 7, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, I'll bite:
How do you know it’s a virgin chicken?
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, certainly not by biting... ;-)
I dunno – I was just going to go with the basic chicken sacrifice, but this crowd seems to kinda raunchy lately so I thought I’d throw in the virgin part…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 7, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see.
Damn. I was really hoping that was a setup…..
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how do you tell
if a chicken is a virgin?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happily here the warnings are over.
Just some rain and wind! Heard the sirens a few times.
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 7, 2008 5:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
glad you made it through safely, madison!
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad it's over
for you. It’s just getting started here again. I just hate storms.
by sue369 on Jun 7, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if it's just thunder and lightening, than I enjoy it
but hearing the sirens go off and how there were uncomfirmed funnel clouds….. blah to that.
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 7, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunatley
tornado warnings are all too common around here.
by sue369 on Jun 7, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still have a shot at a winning
road trip. If we all looked at this spot on the schedule in the spring we’d have been happy with 4-3, so let’s go get it.
This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
by HectorVillanueva on Jun 7, 2008 5:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No Lou presser yet on the radio
Maybe he’s in the locker room chewing the guys a new one…
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 5:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish tomorrow was another day game
so that the stink of this one could be washed off sooner, waiting til tomorrow night does not sound fun.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
at least
it starts at 7ish.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah. with joe f'n morgan.
excuse me while i barf.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No mention of Theriot's misplays at all on WGN's postgame.
It’s like he’s bribing the local media to leave him alone.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 5:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he's hard to crictize sometimes
because he is such a nice guy. i hear him on the radio all the time and he’s very personable. if you’re not really watching the game, you’d never really realize how NOT GOOD he is on the field.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what they get paid to do, though.
Move past their biases and relationships and report the news. They made sure to mention Rammy’s error and Carlos’ “meltdown” (their words), but no words for Theriot. That’s just not right.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't mean to imply it was
but i’m not surprised. Part of me wonders if it could be race based at least partially, the latinos flub, but the good ol’ boy from Louisiana gets a pass…
(just throwing it out there, not meant to smear anyone)
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've often wondered that myself.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have Kemp and Lowe.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Marmol and Woody all got 2 days off. Thats sort of a plus, right?
And we get new gatorade coolers! Thats fun.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
True. The rest for Marmol and Kerry is a good thing.
Also, Neal Cotts pitched very, very well today.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and that's good
maybe he gets Lou to give him more playing time.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is definitely a Big Plus!
Don't blow it boys!
by Mr W on Jun 7, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Kent
needs to get buzzed tomorrow, hes been on fire this series
by bheidge on Jun 7, 2008 5:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Might want to make him move his feet a couple times.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might try stuffing a ball down his shirt
Like Torrealba did this week. I am betting Yorvit got a LOT a lot of high fives and
congragulatory texts from other MLB players. That had to me my favorite run in of the year and Kent
is such a popular guy.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 7, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was Kemp, not Kent.
Although I really wish it had been Kent.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wishful thinking on my part
You sure would assume it is was Kent. Where is Barry Bonds when you need him
to get in a fight with KenT. I think he and A.J always win the most hated player awards
in those secret surveys of MLB players
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 7, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zambrano
Freaking Z should grow up and do something about his temper. Creates a cancer in the clubhouse. reminds me of another ex-cubbie who always put his individual stats ahead of the team. Sure, we all hate to lose, but kicking and screaming doesn’t solve anything and he sure could hurt himself tossing those bottles around. Any other thoughts?
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
by ronsanto10 on Jun 7, 2008 5:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Other thoughts:
You’ve got to be kidding.
Carlos is not, nor will he ever be, a selfish player or a clubhouse cancer.
Athletes are highly competitive and when they fail, they vent. It’s not uncommon.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just Z being Z
we all know what he is by now. Stop acting surprised. He has toned it down alot this year and will have his outburts just like anyone else.
by bheidge on Jun 7, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see him mash them coolers?
He was MAD!!!!!!!
The 100th time has GOT to be a charm...
by cubswgnrocks on Jun 7, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
he should be. His defense let him down, and then he made a mistake and got rocked.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. Kemp's HR should've been a solo shot, but Rammy and Theriot allowed the runners to remain on base.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He isn't the only one or the first one
to do that. Dempster threw a fit the other night in the dugout when he came out of the game.
So long as it doesn’t manifest itself on the field, I don’t care. Z’s done a better job of controlling that this season.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 7, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maddux
has also thrashed gatorade coolers.
"Let's not get too giggly." ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on Jun 7, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did this year!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he's not
a fiery selfish latin player.
"Let's not get too giggly." ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on Jun 7, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did he?
I missed it. AZ game ?
Thrashing coolers is a reasonably normal reaction for an emotional guy
like Z. It beats breaking your hand attacking objects like electric fans and walls.
Z’s breaking bats over his knee makes me a lot more nervous though
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 7, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah.
the bat thing is worrysome.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he did it once
over a week ago. I don’t think it’s a problem.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hes done it a few times
a couple last year i remember.
but come in and throw your batting gloves (well as long as manny isn’t in your dugout) or something, no need to break the bat over your knee.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
these bats
snap at the drop of a hat.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it just takes once though for it to be a problem.
whatever. we’re agreeing in the whole on this one. :-)
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah it was a week or two ago.
A lot of guys do this stuff, they just normally do it in the tunnel or the locker room.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lou talks about doing it during his playing days too
It ain’t new and it ain’t unique to Z.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andre Dawson agrees.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
you don’t know what you’re talking about. Z, a clubhouse cancer? Z, padding his stats? WTF are you talking about?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whatever
a competitive guy gets upset with losing and poor preformance. i’m shocked, are you shocked?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't agree with you more,
however, he is our ace and I don’t agree that he is selfish. He has been a fiery competitor who hates to lose. He just needs to learn to harness that fury in the right way at the right time.
Don't blow it boys!
by Mr W on Jun 7, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so you couldn't agree more
but you disagree?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was replying to
ronsanto10’s post. Somehow it got shoved all the way down the line.
Don't blow it boys!
by Mr W on Jun 7, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So is Buerhle a selfish player.
He did the same thing a few starts back. No, they are both tough competitors.
by Rick B on Jun 7, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me see
if he isn’t emotional it means that he doesn’t care if they win or lose and if he is it means that he is a clubhouse cancer. Me thinks that you don’t know what you’re talking about and should just STFU. But that is my opinion.
by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 7, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
God, I hope Pinella gets out to talk quickly.
The mouthbreathers on talk radio make me ill.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 5:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW
anyone hear this caller ripping Theriot on WGN radio?
by Muehl on Jun 7, 2008 5:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no
curious, cywers has been quiet for a little while… ;-)
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Basically, callers repeating everything that has been said on here about Theriots defense and Zambranos temper tantrum.
by Muehl on Jun 7, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
And I also hear the host refuse to talk about Theriot’s D and immediately start talking about BA and OBP.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“just a bad day for Theriot, it happens, no big deal”...?
by Muehl on Jun 7, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stop the game
theres a bullshit flag on the play!!
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well hopefully
the team doesn’t throw anyone under the bus. No need for that with a team this good
by bheidge on Jun 7, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think we're throwing Ryan under the bus.
We like him for what he is. He’s good for what he does. Even the most critical of us thinks he is a good 2nd-stringer. I don’t think Cedeno is a very good replacement, but I do hope we can trade for someone who is more championship caliber.
by zevkalman on Jun 7, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Granted I've only caught a couple innings of the last two days games.
So I guess I’ve spared some of the frustration of watching them. But west coast trips are never easy. With a win tomorrow they can come back 4-3.
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 7, 2008 5:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate westcoast trips
the only time I enjoyed watching them was in early 2006 i think. When Dlee went off on something like a 14 consecutive hit binge.
by bheidge on Jun 7, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe the gatorade cooler
should just shut up and quit giving Z dirty looks….it clearly deserved to get kicked and then thrown….
I'm a reader not a poster, but I'm also a poster so don't get any ideas.
by cozmotaylor123 on Jun 7, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it
pointed at the scoreboard ala Michael Barrett
by bheidge on Jun 7, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Those Gatorade coolers are bastards. Always staring with their wee, beady eyes….
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
either i'm delerious from my headache
or this is the funniest thing i’ve read in ages. but either way: good one, sir.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm hoping Piniella
gets over his man crush on Theriot and finally realizes how important defense up the middle is. You have to play good defense and execute to win on the road. That explains our road record.
by Rick B on Jun 7, 2008 6:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't hold my breath,
but I will say that tomorrow might be Jason Marquis’ last chance to not lose starts to Lieber
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes Marquis
is on Lou’s shit list at the moment.
"Let's not get too giggly." ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on Jun 7, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i prefer to call the shit list
a fecal roster. much more fun. :-P
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention his last
chance to stay on my fantasy team…ha
I'm a reader not a poster, but I'm also a poster so don't get any ideas.
by cozmotaylor123 on Jun 7, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You must be in a really deep league.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or out to lose.
or do you get pitcher hitting stats too? because he can handle the bat a little.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like lieber.
he throws strikes and works fast.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if only we had
the rich hill of last year
by bheidge on Jun 7, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Hill is by far the biggest disappointment of this season.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wasn't his last start
that last chance?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought so, but apparently he bought himself another one somehow.
If Hart had pitched well, might be a different story
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, hart is disappointing
i like his stuff a lot. i was hoping he’d be even better this year.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hart
hasn’t done anything to win me over so far this year
by bheidge on Jun 7, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Up here, yeah,
but he was pitching very well in the minors.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right.
Until somebody else steps up (or we make a trade), Marquis is going to keep being run out there every fifth day.
by bluekoolaide on Jun 7, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
marshall is supposed to make his return from the iowa dl
any chance he could be that guy?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a lot of things explain our road record
we haven’t played well overall.
and theriots defense isn’t much better at home.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any opinions...
...as to what you think our “weak link” is ?
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
by ronsanto10 on Jun 7, 2008 6:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the ones that hold our gloves together?
the overall leather. IMHO.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
Defensively – Ryan Theriot
Pitching – Jason Marquis
Hitting – centerfield platoon
and when you think about it. It really isn’t that bad.
by bheidge on Jun 7, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except for Marquis. He really is that bad.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or worse.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With a good offense
I can live with it. Although whenever a chance to upgrade comes along I will take it. I would say Lieber but I wouldn’t want Marquis coming out of the bullpen for anything other than mop-up.
by bheidge on Jun 7, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess at this point, we have to live with it.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I can base anything off of Lou's reactions when hes on the mound
We wont have to live with it very long.
by bheidge on Jun 7, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So with the Rockies being as awful as they are..
anyone have an idea what it would take to get Fuentes from them? Someone to set up, close, etc with Woody and Marmol would be fabulous…
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Could you imagine this bullpen
With Joe Nathan? Now that he signed that contract there is no way, but I thought I heard something in the offseason about the cubs being interested. This is purely hypothetical btw.
by bheidge on Jun 7, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is lights out
the best closer in baseball no one knows.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He drinks like a fish too!
Met him at a bar in KC
by bheidge on Jun 7, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh.
i don’t get the drinking thing. i’m the daughter of an alcoholic… i just don’t see the fun in it.
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
drinking is one thing
alcoholism is another
by bheidge on Jun 7, 2008 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ignore me. its been a weird couple of weeks. :-)
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how many pitchers
do we have to HAVE?
Howry and Cotts are set-up guys. Marmol is the fireman, with Howry as a backup. Lieber and Hart are long men (although I dunno if I’d actually trust Hart at this point). Woody is the closer. Eyre is, for lack of… whatever… the LOOGY. And then you have Wuertz.
We don’t need more help in the pen. We need Lilly to get BETTER, and bring in someone to replace Marquis, who can pinch run for the rest of the season, for all I care.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know.
just pure hypothetical.
Do you think Lilly’s having a hang over from all the innings last year?
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF.
WGN radio is talking about the damn tax code. I can’t find any postgame anywhere. And I LIVE IN F-N CHICAGO!!!!!!!!!!!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 6:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
somethings
are better left unsaid. I think this game is one of them
by bheidge on Jun 7, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd really like to hear Lou's take, though.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
I can’t imagine hes too happy. Hopefully he can get the team refocused. Win tomorrow and this road trip is acceptable.
by bheidge on Jun 7, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing at this point
there isn’t going to be one.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seems that way.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I Glad
I didn’t go to the games today and yesterday. In fact I’m glad I didn’t even watch the game on TV today!
After reading your comments, I expected Theriot to have a couple errors s but only one was charged to ARam. Sounds like Infield singles that should have been outs?
Offense has 3 BB and 18 K in the last two games. Maybe we should try bunting and stealing some bases?
by CaliCub on Jun 7, 2008 6:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well I'm going dark
The storms are making their way toward Porter County. Talk to ya’ll later!
Restraining the urge to get giggly....
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jun 7, 2008 6:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's begun raining by me again, as well.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 6:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, hey, and now we have thunder and lightning. Yay!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 6:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad it's raining
rain is good. In moderation. :D
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jun 7, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good for my tomatoes; bad for my basement
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on Jun 7, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pinella's post game comments,
On Zambrano’s dugout tantrum:
“I missed it,” said Piniella, who has thrown a few tantrums himself at times. “I was on the mound and I heard all this commotion. I thought there was a wave going on—but there was no wave. In fact, if I’d have been in the dugout, I probably would have enjoyed it. I went back down in the tunnel to make sure he wasn’t going to hurt himself. It was just frustration, that’s all. He competes and he wants to win. As long as he doesn’t hurt himself, that’s all we care about. I’d rather have a guy who gets upset than a guy that does it with a smile, like he doesn’t care.”
On the 7th inning defensive lapses:
“We seemed to self-destruct that inning. We gave them quite a few outs,” Piniella said. “We’ve got to figure out why Theriot’s dropping balls on tags at second base. That we can’t do. I don’t know how we only ended up (being charged) with one error that inning. I think Zambrano lost his concentration out there, and that was it.”
Zambrano, on his performance:
“I made a mistake. That’s it. You make a mistake in the big leagues, you pay for it,” Zambrano said. “I was angry at myself. I’m the one that has the ball in my hand, and if I have to blame somebody, I blame myself. It’s my fault. Let’s move on.”
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
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