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A Marquis Experience: Cubs 3, Dodgers 1

Before I say anything about last night's 3-1 Cubs win over the Dodgers, I have a question.

Was there some basketball game on TV last night?

I swear, if I had seen one more split screen or one more update on the NBA finals, I was about to throw something at the TV screen. Talk about shameless promotion. Don't these people realize that if people wanted to watch the basketball game, they'd probably already have switched channels to do that?

And don't even get me started about the bleatings of Jon Miller and Joe Morgan. I was trying to keep track of all the mistakes and platitudes put on the air by Morgan and Miller, but I lost count, there were so many (I am SO sick of hearing Miller do the "politically correct" pronunciation of foreign players' names -- I mean, really, "Chaaaahn Ho Park"?).

Having gotten that out of the way -- what a fine, fine performance by our favorite team last night. Apart from Geovany Soto's throwing error on Juan Pierre's first-inning steal, which allowed Pierre to go to third and score on an infield out, the Cubs were nearly flawless in front of the national audience. Jason Marquis -- see, I knew he had this kind of talent, as Mark DeRosa said:

"I think sometimes he becomes his own worst enemy," DeRosa said. "He sometimes doesn't realize how great his stuff is. When he's on, he's tough to hit. He has a good sinker, he had good command of his slider and his split. He's a good pitcher. He's been a good pitcher in this league."

Exactly. Marquis threw strikes last night and had terrific movement on his pitches. If he hadn't run into trouble in the 7th inning, Lou might have let him finish, as he had thrown only 89 pitches when he was removed, but taking him out in favor of Carlos Marmol was the right thing to do. (Incidentally, the last Cub CG thrown in a victory was by... Marquis, when he shut out the Pirates 1-0 on May 9, 2007. The Cubs have had one CG since then, by Carlos Zambrano in a 1-0 loss to San Diego on June 16, 2007, the day Chris Young and Derrek Lee had their brawl.) Marquis' 6.1 innings without allowing an earned run dropped his ERA by almost half a point, from 5.02 to 4.54.

More outstanding play: Marmol had his nasty slider working last night, though he went to 3-2 counts too often for my tastes (and Lou's, too), throwing 36 pitches (good thing the Cubs have today off), and he and Derrek Lee combined on a slick fielding play to end the last real Dodger threat in that 7th inning.

And then Kerry Wood came in and slammed the door -- he seems more comfortable in the closer's role with every appearance, having saved 18 games, struck out 40 in 34.2 innings, allowed only one HR (to the Pirates' Jason Bay on April 9, in a game the Cubs won anyway) and walked only seven. (Wood's hit almost as many batters -- six -- as he has walked, though only one in his last nine appearances since that disastrous HB in Pittsburgh led to a loss -- in those nine games he has thrown 8.2 innings, allowed five hits and two walks, struck out 15, allowed no runs and registered eight saves.)

Even more outstanding play: hitting hero of the night was DeRosa, who homered (yet another HR that landed just beyond the Dodger Stadium wall that didn't seem to be hit that hard at first), singled in the second run and scored the third on an Aramis Ramirez double. All of this was off Brad Penny... who appears, to be charitable, way out of shape. He's a big man, yes... and I don't really want to be politically incorrect and say he's "fat"... well, yes I do. Penny looked fat last night, and maybe that's why he's been off to such a bad start.

It was a nearly flawless performance that ended the Cubs' first winning road trip of the year. The 14-16 road record the Cubs sport doesn't look that good -- until you look at everyone else's road record. Only three teams in all of baseball -- the Cardinals (17-14), the Phillies (18-13) and the Angels (21-12) have winning records on the road. Nineteen teams have road records worse than the Cubs'. This is unusual -- normally, the home-field advantage isn't as strong in baseball as it is in other sports, particularly the NBA (Say, was there a basketball game going on last night?), and I'm at a loss to explain why this is so. Fortunately for the Cubs, they come home for another of those goofy three-game homestands to face a team with the worst record in baseball on the road, the Braves, 7-21 away from Atlanta, and having to play for at least a game or two without their best hitter, Chipper Jones, currently hitting .420 but out with a slight tear in his right quad.

One other bit of news: Lou is considering skipping Sean Gallagher's turn, given the off day today, and starting Carlos Zambrano on Thursday; the idea is to give seven starts before the All-Star break to the top three starters (Z, Lilly and Dempster) and six to Marquis and Gallagher. Sounds good to me.

So enjoy this off day -- again BCB reader gary varsho has posted an off-day fun post to discuss our favorite bad Cubs -- and relax while the Cubs rest, still with the best record in baseball, and check out the sidebar box ranking this year's team after 64 games with the starts by other teams in Cub history. It's right up there. This is already a special season, and Kerry Wood, who has been on three Cub postseason teams, was asked how this year's team compares:

"It's different," Wood said. "It's a different feeling here. We all know we have something special. We're trying to take advantage of it."

Amen, Kerry. Keep it going. Onward.

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Winning record on a road trip

I’m happy with it. Now come home and pound the Braves while they’re down.

by N Oakley on Jun 9, 2008 8:36 AM CDT   0 recs

We have 51 games left on the road. Let’s shoot for 29-22 on the road the rest of the season. We have 47 at home shoot for 30-17. That would make our final record 99-63.

We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 9, 2008 8:54 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I believe I will be okay with that.

by N Oakley on Jun 9, 2008 9:58 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I am happy with the road trip… now we just need to keep playing at that pace on the road.. if possible a little bit better than that.. and we will be good to go.

by DvdD on Jun 9, 2008 2:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

How did I manage this?

Chipper Jones NOT being in the line-up is huge.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 9, 2008 8:36 AM CDT   0 recs

No kidding. Chipper in street clothes and Smoltz on the DL, and Marquis already pitched and won last night. Surprised I find myself thinking that winning the series is expected.

by N Oakley on Jun 9, 2008 8:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not.

this is gonna rock.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 9, 2008 9:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And furthermore...

The Braves are 7-21 on the road.

by John Q Freejazz on Jun 9, 2008 10:20 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

See, you didn't go last night and the Cubs won.

No more games for you in the state of California. Fortunately, the Cubs are done in SD and LA for this year.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 9, 2008 8:47 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well maybe they’ll be back in the LA area in October.

We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 9, 2008 8:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Playing the Angels, I hope you mean.

I don’t see the Dodgers in the postseason.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 9, 2008 9:06 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes the Angels. So let’s hope we see them this season.

We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 9, 2008 9:11 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You know...

I think I disagree. I really liked what I saw of them. The pitching is still sharp, and they’re staying within five of the Diamondbacks, even during this extended losing streak—which helps. This is a team that I could see turning into this years’ version of the 2007 Rockies easily. Get Furcal and Jones back, and maybe find an impact bat at 3rd. They’ve got the assets. Seriously, I wouldn’t write that team off.

by Damen Jackson on Jun 9, 2008 1:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They have an impact bat at third....

he is 22 and, I think, the most dangerous man in the Dodgers lineup…...

by crazymountain on Jun 9, 2008 11:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What about the 3

games in San Francisco July 1,2 and 3.

by cubdreamer on Jun 9, 2008 9:26 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well...

... I meant SDSJM isn’t going to any more games because he lives in San Diego.

The Cubs actually have FOUR games in SF, June 30, July 1-2-3. But SDSJM (who appears to be bad luck when he goes to games in SOUTHERN California) won’t be going.

Hope that’s clearer.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 9, 2008 9:42 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

AL

Do you always sit in the left field bleachers right behind Soriano? I am going to be at my first bleacher game this year, tomorrow night and would like to stop by and say hello. Thanks!

by rtraugs25 on Jun 9, 2008 10:07 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep, that's where you can find me.

Stop on by!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 9, 2008 10:12 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LF corner, section 301.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 9, 2008 10:12 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

same thing with me

I drove down Friday to see the Dodgers-Cubs on Friday night and Sat day and the Cubs lost both games. I drove home Sunday and watched the game (with the sound off so I didn’t have to listen to Morgan and Miller) on TV and the Cubs win. I think I stop going to SD and LA for the Cubs games.

wccubfan

by wccubfan on Jun 9, 2008 2:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

same here

I went to the friday and saturday games as well. I don’t think I’ll be going to the games in SF, I’d much rather watch them win with Joe Morgan than watch them lose in person.

by Tate491 on Jun 9, 2008 10:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

lets not forget San Fran though… lol i think we still got three down there.

by DvdD on Jun 9, 2008 3:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I know

I already have tickets and now I think I should give them to my kid and watch on the tube.

wccubfan

by wccubfan on Jun 9, 2008 3:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Marquis was great last night.

That was quite a performance. Let’s hope he can keep that going.

I was kinda hard on Ronny for appearing to argue the called third strike in his final AB, but after some TIVO’ing, I think I was wrong. Ronny kind of leans back, obviously, from his body language, he doesn’t like the call (it was a good call, IMO) and then it looks like Hernandez says something to him. Ronny kind of looks at Angel and appears to say “I’m going, I’m going.” And Hernandez appears to keep jabbering at him. That guy (Angel Hernandez) has a serious problem. No other umpire is so blatantly confrontational with the players. Others, Phil Cuzzi, C.B Bucknor, are bad, but Angel is way too ready to get in a player’s face.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 9, 2008 8:39 AM CDT   0 recs

Agreed

I was a little hard on Ronnie too, but looking at it again, it did look like Angel had a little too much to say. It looked like Angel gestured toward the dugout too, as if he had said something like “just go sit down.” Either way, you’re right, Angel is bad and way too willing to confront the players

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jun 9, 2008 8:45 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 9, 2008 9:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed.

I witnessed his last AB in the ninth, and the called third strike was right over the plate. Go away, Cedeno, we want 1Dec back!

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 9, 2008 9:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Am I the ony one..

who thought that last pitch to Ronny was a bit high? Still too good to take with 2 stikes….just sayin..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jun 9, 2008 12:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Looked good to me.

That high strike was getting called most of the series.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 9, 2008 12:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep, the second it landed, I said, "Strike."

And then Ronny got rung up.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 9, 2008 12:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Angel is anything BUT......

he is, besides being one of the worst umpires in the show, confrontational, to be nice…..

by crazymountain on Jun 9, 2008 11:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Like Al, I cringed at just about everything the announcing team said ....

Very, very condescending and overtly simplistic towards our Cubbies. That said, I almost fell out of the chair when Joe Morgan mentioned that this was a very special club … one that comes around every one-hundred years. Or something like that.

Flabbergasted.
—t.

GEAUX FONTENOT!

by Little Rock Ryno Fan on Jun 9, 2008 8:44 AM CDT   0 recs

“So Lou, are you pleased with Marquis performance so far in the game and to what to you attribute the difference today?” Lou: “Well, he’s throwing strikes.”

by N Oakley on Jun 9, 2008 9:59 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Joe is SO incisive....

God, between him and McCarver, I have worn out three dozen pens and fifteen notebooks….just rewinding, rewinding some more…..man, I feel now that I have some serious insights into baseball…..and just think…..all the wisdom gleaned from folks like Jolly Cholly during my kiddom is just shit….wow, I am in awe of Joe and Tim…...(for folks like MDBNIU and other intelligent types, that is sarcasm…y’all can look up sarcasm in the dictionary….OH….a dictionary is a book that tells you what words mean…..)

by crazymountain on Jun 10, 2008 12:05 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What the hell is basketball?

I was right there with you Al, every inning “and over on ABC the finals are underway….” NO KIDDING! Also in the line of shameless promotions, what is the deal with these expanding advertisements on this site? I know its good money, but what a pain in the arse.

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jun 9, 2008 8:47 AM CDT   0 recs

I think we heard the team names Lakers and Celtics more than Dodgers and Cubs last night.

We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 9, 2008 8:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I have complained about the rollover ads.

I hate them, too.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 9, 2008 9:07 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

As long as there are no ads linked to words in our actual comments....

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on Jun 9, 2008 10:03 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Switching at breaks

I was switching to the NBA at breaks last night. Kevin Garnett is going to get his ring this year. Having seen him in person on and off the court, he’s not just an awesome player, he’s a personable and very classy guy in real life. I’m sorry he’s not still on the T-Wolves, true, still, I’m glad he is on a real winner. No one in the NBA deserves it more.

And as soon as the last out was called, it was over to KSTP (local ABC affil) for the rest of the game.

by MN exile on Jun 9, 2008 10:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

NBA Finals!!!

I completely agree with you guys about the ads for the NBA Finals on ABC…
We wanna watch our CUBBIES not the stupid NBA Finals.. OUR BULLS SUCKED THIS YEAR.

by DvdD on Jun 9, 2008 3:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's the same company

...they are just trying to recycle the audience around. It’s not a big deal.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 9, 2008 3:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Can you believe boob 1 and boob 2 actually found a way to bring up Joba Chamberlain in the 9th inning last night.

Is Scott Downs still playing? If he was pitching they’d probably say “Scott Downs’ stepmother was on a soap opera that featured a Chamberlain family so let’s talk about Joba Chamberlain!”

(Scott Downs’ stepmother is Rebecca Hollen who played Trish Lewis on Guiding Light in the early-mid 80s)

We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 9, 2008 8:50 AM CDT   0 recs

Also will the media stop making a big deal every time Zambrano expresses frustration. The way they covered it you would think he shot someone. It doesn’t hurt anyone and it doesn’t affect the teams win and losses.

We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 9, 2008 8:52 AM CDT   0 recs

Expresses frustration?

I call it acting like a horse’s rear end. It may not hurt anyone, but it detracts from the rest of the team because of how much attention it focuses on negativity and away form the good things that the team does. At lease he had the good sense not to punch the thing.

I'm a good speller, but my typing creates a SERIOUS vacuum. (especially while I'm at work sticking it to the man)

by cubfever7 on Jun 9, 2008 12:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

call it what you want

it’s Z acting like Z. it’s not going to change. And frankly, if it did, I’d be worried.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jun 9, 2008 12:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I hate to do this but please allow me to call

BS. This kind of thing is common in baseball and it doesn’t take away from anything. When players don’t show emotions then fans have fits because they don’t care, when they do show emotion then they post stuff like this. He was pissed at himself and he took it out on the water cooler. A old time baseball tradition. No one is bothered in the least. Just like when Mt. Pinella erupts the only one it really disturbs are stuffed shirt fans. The players laugh, the umps stifle a smile and broadcasters have a good story. No one focuses on negativity and it doesn’t take away anything.

by bubbamike the one and only on Jun 9, 2008 12:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No problem BubbaMike...

...you may be right; it is an old tradition, but old or new, guys who do it look 2 year olds and the media will replay something like that over and over and may in place of something good.

I see glove slamming go on alot more than I used to-but Z in my view looked like a complete dipswitch picking up not one but 2 coolers-he darn near couldn’t lift the one. If he hurts his lower back, then we can come back and talk some more tradition.

But we just disagree—it’s cool and I freely admit to be a huge stuffed shirt on this topic.

I'm a good speller, but my typing creates a SERIOUS vacuum. (especially while I'm at work sticking it to the man)

by cubfever7 on Jun 9, 2008 12:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow, you said that?

I am with Lou…..damn glad he did it…..sheesh…....do you work for Fox or ESPN?

by crazymountain on Jun 10, 2008 12:07 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

espn announcers

1) fukudomo coming to the plate oh mean fukudome!
2) morgan about choked when his partner started talking about how great a 2b kent was
3) jon miller says the protevtive gear is great because it keeps players from getting hurt when they get, joe morgan says I hate the protective gear.
4)joe morgan is every black player heaven sent?? make it a lil more obvious you prejudice idiot.

ok i’m done i have about 40 of those. espn my god your not that stupid, find some announcers that arent idiots.

hey i will take a 4-3 road trip anyday. not the best but very acceptable.

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by cubsluver22 on Jun 9, 2008 8:53 AM CDT   0 recs

FOOKOODOMO

that’s how he said it .. i died everytime he did

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Jun 9, 2008 8:54 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

and McCarver too....what idiots

The national networks NEVER do research before a game…..I think there were only, between the Fox and ESPN games, only 3,006,763 cliches, and one fact between the two weekend broadcasts…..Fukodomo indeed!!!!!!

by crazymountain on Jun 10, 2008 12:11 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't even watch the game on TV when the Cubs

are on Sunday Night Baseball. I listen to Pat and Ron.

"You know they're not going to lose 162 games." Harry Caray

by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 9, 2008 9:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll bet Soto was happy about his protective gear

when he took that foul ball off the VERY INNER THIGH late last night…..

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by iluvryno on Jun 9, 2008 10:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ditto everything you said, especially the part...

where Miller praies Kent. Joe was speechless.

I'm a good speller, but my typing creates a SERIOUS vacuum. (especially while I'm at work sticking it to the man)

by cubfever7 on Jun 9, 2008 12:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That was my favorite part of the broadcast and I don’t care for Kent.

by N Oakley on Jun 9, 2008 1:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

re: ESPN Announcers

i think we already knew that the espn guys were dumber than a door nail.

by DvdD on Jun 9, 2008 3:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Stuff

Did anyone hear Morgan say Rothschild’s name? What a joke.

Jason pitched great but I still don’t trust him that is the bottom line for me.

Glad the Cubs didn’t give up on Wood to soon as most of the radio and print media wanted and I haven’t heard Mike North mention Kerry at all since he was killing him after the Pitt struggles. What a doofus.

Just found out I’m going to Comisullar the 27th so I can mix it up with some South Siders. Side note, I had a Sox friend tell me the Cubs record is bloated because we have played the Pirates so much, and their division has a combined .463 winning percentage. I didn’t respond.

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on Jun 9, 2008 9:17 AM CDT   0 recs

Here's ammunition for your Sox fan friend.

The Sox are 14-4 against the three bottom teams in their division, Cleveland, Detroit and KC.

They are 7-12 vs. the AL East, and they haven’t played the Red Sox yet.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 9, 2008 9:23 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And I believe

the AL Central is the only AL division with a losing record to the NL this year.

by Rick B on Jun 9, 2008 9:43 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

True, BUT...

... the AL Central is only 7-8 against the NL. And the AL has continued it’s trend of winning against the NL so far this year. BTW the Sox swept their one inter-league series so far.

by DrCrawdad on Jun 9, 2008 7:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Once again correct.

Though we’re still waiting for an illuminative point.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jun 9, 2008 7:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Interleague play sucks....that is why there has been a WS since 1901.....

well, 1902 was cancelled….and 1994(?) also…but for very different reasons….The AL and NL USED to be separate leagues, league presidents, league umpires…NOW the AL doesn’t even play baseball, they have the DH and the leagues are merged into MLB? It is just sick…..

by crazymountain on Jun 10, 2008 12:15 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Further evidence

that they will eventually come back down to earth. I think the Sox are playing way above their head.

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on Jun 9, 2008 9:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The Sox are a good team

in a very bad division. But I don’t see them competing against a healthy Red Sox or a healthy Angels team.

by Rick B on Jun 9, 2008 9:47 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well I think most teams were shutting down

the Sox’ offense all year but their middle of the order guys have definitely stepped it up on this homestand which I think is more of an indicator that their arrow is pointing up. Their pitching has been filthy all year (I wanna say best in baseball) and if their O continues to rise, I’d say their a team that could make some noise in the ps.

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on Jun 9, 2008 9:55 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I would not

call them a good team. They are mediocre at best in a bad division.

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on Jun 9, 2008 9:55 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs