Croweaters Anonymous
by DGU on Jul 10, 2008 3:35 PM CDT
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PrintHi, I'm DGU and I'm wrong from time to time about baseball.
I think we need a healthy forum where we can post the things we were joyously wrong about this season (or are at least looking wrong about). Just this week there are some funny posts in retrospect about what it would take to get Harden that might barbecue well for smoked crow. Farther back some Edmonds posts are fit for crow pasta, cooked al dente (you know, al dente, "not quite done"). And surely we haven't forgotten some Dempster crow, processed, chilled, and put into the ice cream maker Iron Chef style.
I'll start with my own crow dish. I was wrong about Mike Fontenot. In April I argued that Fontenot was never going to hit ML pitching again and said, "We have a guy in Mike Fontenot, who Jason Marquis should hit for." I claimed more than once that he was worthless for our roster. There may still be players with more utility than him for our roster, but he's hitting awfully well for a bench player. This crow's been a slow cooker, stuffed with sneaky power, fastidiously basted by Lou getting Fonty into the lineup regularly. All in all, it's tasting good right now.
Anyone else ready to share their personal crow recipes? Allez cuisine!
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I wasn't too vocal about it here
But I was 120% against Edmonds.
I’ve never liked him and I think he comes across as a pompous ass. I was sure he was finished and I actually hoped that he was, just because I dislike him so much.
My opinion of him hasn’t changed, but I’m glad he’s contributing to the Cubs team.
I was wrong
and I’m glad I was about Edmonds. He looked done, cooked, spent… but seems to show more of the Edmonds I hated to see come to the plate in red. Yes, streaky like he always was – but a solid player in a CF that needed one.
I have no response to that.
I'm not ready
to admit I was wrong about Edmonds yet—he’s hitting .154 in July so far. But if he can turn in one more month like he had in June, then I’ll eat crow.
Despite all my rantings about Fontenot, I think I’m in good shape. I just said (repeatedly) there’s no reason he should be in the major leagues while Eric Patterson sits in the minors. Since Patterson no longer sits in the minors (Well, he does, but for the Sacramento River Cats), I think I’m safe. There isn’t anyone in the minors right now who can take Fontenot’s place. Maybe Nate Spears, but he wouldn’t be any better than Mike is.
If someone finds me saying something worse than that about Fonty, then I’ll dine now. Otherwise, I’m waiting until August 1st to dine on crow for Edmonds.
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh Timmers on Jul 11, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
I ate my crow for saying Fonty was done hitting anything in the majors. I’d still argue that he can be improved on in terms of bench utility.
As for Edmonds, I agree that a lot of caution is needed here. He can still hit in general. But he is no less very liable to injury and having those injuries bring his performance level down. This brings us back to bench utility. The Cubs could use a speedy left-handed OF who can spell all three spots because Reed Johnson should not be hitting against RHPs. Preferrably, this OF would be a defensive improvement on both Edmonds and Soriano.
+1 on that
I got tired of Edmonds running and flopping and striking out and hot-dogging with St. Louis. I was happy that he was nearly finished. Now I’m happy he had a great June for us. – TL
Great idea for a thread and here's mine; I was wrong about Kerry Wood
I had no faith in him as a closer and I was very critical of his performances early on (I also didn’t stop to think that it would take him some time to adjust to the closer role). Anyway, although he’s had some bad outings, I’m overall very satisfied with the job he’s done and, as he’s helped the Cubs to a great record so far, the crow I’m eating tastes great!!
Thinking back to 2007...
How many of us were wrong in our judgements about the Lou Piniella hiring? I certainly know I was.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
I was wrong about Lou
I wanted Girardi and thought Lou was a mistake.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
+1
"That’s what I love about my skip, man. He’ll tell you that you suck...I know I suck. We know we suck...Yeah, we suck. But we’ll see who sucks at the end."
- Gary Sheffield
by DrGalazkiewicz on Jul 11, 2008 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I was wrong about Edmonds
For the most part, that is. I was wrong about Soriano, for the most part as well. I don’t like its taste, but I’ll eat crow from time to time.
I was wrong about Edmonds
But he makes good soup, so I don’t care now.
I’m still reserving judgment on Harden till he actually does some good for us.
And the jury’s still out on Marquis.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
Nobody's wrong about Edmonds...
Small sample size. He was good for a couple of weeks and now he’s been complete crap for the past 14 days, which more likely indicates how he’ll play from here on out given his stats since 2006.
His defense is complete shite as well.
As for Marquis I don’t know what the jury’s waiting for.
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by Chitown Mojo on Jul 11, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Small sample size?
Don’t bring that in here. Complete crap for 14 days. Now that’s a small sample size. It is no indication at all how a veteran proven ML hitter named ED will perform from here on out. His defense is far from shit as well… You need to understand that he has been playing banged up for about 3 weeks now, BECAUSE the team needed him to. You are wrong. Besides, who are we going to put in CF anyway?
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't bring the small sample size in here?
I’m just pointing out facts, is all.
His defense is far from shit? He is last in the majors in Fielding % for qualified CFs, 19th out of 21 in Zone Rating.
And this is just using the stats that you might be able to understand.
As for his batting, he’s been in steady decline for the past four years. He’s been playing for three years straight pretty much the same way he’s been playing the last 14 days.
So yeah small sample size but let’s see; he’s had a shitty March/April, a shitty May, a good June, a shitty July. Odd man oout? Let’s not forget that this was all preceded by two bad years.
If you try and think a little, his past 14 days seem more like a return to form than anything else.
“It is no indication at all how a veteran proven ML hitter named ED will perform from here on out.”
That’s classic. Thank you.
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by Chitown Mojo on Jul 11, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Anybody can cite stats...
to bolster a point they are making. I don’t rely on stats. However, when it comes to stats- using your eyes, and looking at the instances in certain games doesn’t tell the whole story. Oh, and thank you for dumbing it down, so my little mind could understand. You need to use your eyes, and you need to understand why he is playing despite his scuffling at the plate as of late. I haven’t seen too many balls that he hasn’t gotten to in the outfield. He has been steady, and sometimes great for the Cubs since they acquired him. You have to look at the reasons why he had two sub-par seasons, and is currently scuffling. Jim Edmonds is a proven ML hitter. Try doing a little research into WHY he declined in the past few years. Try to understand that he has been suffering post-concussion symptoms for over 2 years now. He just came off the medication. My point, stats, (even ones I understand), don’t tell the whole story. Check back when you see what he does in the 2nd half.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Let me guess...
You play fantasy baseball, and use stats as a barometer. Fancy yourself a GM? Thank God you aren’t the Cubs GM.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
guys this is suppose to be a FUN POST
Could we pls try and keep it that way. :)
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 11, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure.
When he stops beating me over the head with stats. and offers no solution(s). Baseball is not all about stats. Anyone can twist stats. to suit their needs. Let’s use our eyes as well. Let’s try to understand there are reasons behind the numbers. Let’s remember the games ED has certainly put in the win column that have kept the Cubs in first. With all that being said, if I’m wrong, like always- I’ll be the first to admit it.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Man I am not beating you over the head with stats...
Jim Edmonds is 38 years old and has been in decline for at least two years, it does not matter what you look at.
Being a proven ML hitter does not mean anything, Hank Aaron is a proven ML hitter and I’m sure we can both agree that he’d be worth capute with a bat in his hands.
I am more than happy when he wins games for us and I wish he’d go on a tear and become Edmonds circa 2000 all over again.
This could happen because of course anything can happen. Nonetheless, everything seems to point otherwise, looking at all the evidence we have, the logical conclusion is that the Edmonds we have seen in the past 14 days is more or less the Edmonds we will see the rest of the way.
If he were to tear it up all year he’d be the exception that confirms the rule. Since he has done nothing but have one good month, there is no reason for us to think that he is that exception.
That makes sense, right?
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by Chitown Mojo on Jul 11, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
let's see
how Edmonds does after the ASG. I think he’s hurt, and he’s being put out there because there’s no one else to go out.
Give him some rest and recovery, he may regain that form.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Again, anything is possible.
What is more likely?
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by Chitown Mojo on Jul 11, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
it wasn't likely
for him to heat up in the first place. I thought it was a bad idea originally, but he’s made me a believer. I’ll give him that chance.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Way too many assumptions there...
I just stated the evident: Jim Edmonds is in decline.
I’m not making this up, you can just look it up. Unfortunately unless you want to sit through countless hours of video you’ll have to look at some stats.
Good news for you though is that they do tell a lot. They’ll tell you how often that player gets on base, for how much power he hits and so forth.
Basically they’ll tell you how well he bats which can be seen as a pretty good indicator for, well, how well he bats.
That’s it, all I did was point out a fact and that would make you believe that I “Fancy myself a GM”....
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by Chitown Mojo on Jul 11, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
For all of the Iron Chef references!
I was very wrong about Edmonds as well, and Theriot is still (sort of) proving me wrong.
Zambrano viciously attacked a pair of watercoolers for the crime of being within his line of vision. It was a classic battle of man versus inanimate object.
I was wrong about the Bobby Hill trade
Baseball is too much of a sport to be a business and too much of a business to be a sport.
William Wrigley Jr
by bubbamike the one and only on Jul 10, 2008 5:36 PM CDT reply actions
I couldn't help
but laugh at the Bobby Hill comment that guy was supposed to be the centerpiece of that trade and where is he now? Hendry is so good at screwing over other GMs
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 10, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Bobby Hill
He made my sandwich at Subway last night.
by denvercubbies on Jul 11, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
lol
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Jul 11, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
I was wrong about Edmonds, as most of you know.
I was also wrong when I said the Cubs wouldn’t go after Harden. I also hope I’m wrong about my feelings about his durability—hope he’s healthy all the rest of this year.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Hey Al
Where was Deep Goat during the Harden trade? Did you hear anything about it from him/her? Just curious.
"Please move away from this vector and get into another coordinate pronto. There's no access for you in this quadrant." Mike Donnelly
There was no word at all...
... this one came out of nowhere.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Interesting
They really kept a lid on this trade, huh?
"Please move away from this vector and get into another coordinate pronto. There's no access for you in this quadrant." Mike Donnelly
More than that...
... although, as Jim Hendry said, there were informal talks for a couple weeks, they got much more heated very quickly. No time for rumors even to spread.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Good Point
Thanks for the info.
"Please move away from this vector and get into another coordinate pronto. There's no access for you in this quadrant." Mike Donnelly
Don't be so quick
to think you were wrong about Hollywood Jim. He’s had one great month sandwiched between one lousy month. Check out the couple weeks after we aquired him and the last couple weeks since the Baltimore series. I’m not sold yet (mostly because I still loathe the guy and I hate to admit when I’m wrong….hehe) But, since it looks like he’s here for good, I will just have to root for him and hope for the best.
Embrace the Goat and It Shall Be Undone
I would like to publicly
eat some crow for a couple calls I made before the season:
1. Kerry Wood would make a shitty closer b/c he walks way too many.
2. Ryan Theriot, while SCRAPPY, is not more than a utility guy, who should only get occasional starts.
Ronny Cedeno, however, I knew would suck, and therefore, am not apologizing for it. He should apologize to us, actually.
Oh - I was wrong, too
about Harden. Never included him on the post: The Hendry Files: Shopping for a Pitcher”
Just never thought it would happen. But, Hendry pulled it off…
One thing is pretty clear, though – Ted Lilly will be slotted in his proper #4 rotation position moving forward, I’d think.
I was wrong
I thought that Cedeno would be much improved this year. After hearing he played a good CF in Venezuela this winter I expected Cedeno to be getting regular playing time between the outfield, SS, and 2B and challenging DeRosa for most valuable utility guy. I was so wrong it’s not even funny. Cedeno had that one good week early which made me feel kind of smart but since then he is total garbage. Can we give him away.
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 10, 2008 5:59 PM CDT reply actions
Edmonds and Dempster
both I was totally wrong on.
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 10, 2008 6:28 PM CDT reply actions
same here
thought Edmonds was a waste of time and Dempster would be a #5
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 10, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Same here Badger
And its nice to have been so dead wrong.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 10, 2008 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I was wrong about Theriot, he should be a first-ballot HoFer.
Teasing, teasing ; )
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
I was wrong about Edmonds...and was too optimistic about Cedeno and Marquis.
and this isn’t very anonymous.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 10, 2008 6:38 PM CDT reply actions
Ok, it's not anonymous...
...but I was wrong about Soto. I never said it here on BCB. I wasn’t sure he could be this good in just his first full year in the majors. I wasn’t sure last fall he could translate his PCL MVP success to the big club. He did, and so much more; supplanting Kendall as the starting catcher into the playoffs. All he has done now, is have a ROY 1st half with almost as many homers in the first half as Piazza’a record 18, handle the pitching staff with aplomb, and get better and better behind the dish. I was so wrong. This Han Soto crow actually tastes good… Yum!
Jimmyeatworld
I was completely wrong on Mike Fontenot, as well.
I thought the guy was horrible, even worse than Ryan Theriot. However, Fontenot has displayed that he can actually hit, and can hit for power as well. I’ll gladly eat my crow on this one.
However, I will eat no crow for my stance on Ryan Theriot’s mediocrity, because he still is not a good hitter.
+1
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 10, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Theiot is good for what we ask him to do.
What we ask him to do is likely the most we can ask of him. I gotta give it to him though, he tries so hard. I wish the best for him. If we could somehow get Fonzi out of the lead off spot, Theriot takes enough pitches, and hits singles, can bunt. Would be nice in the lead off slot. However, this does not make up for his weak arm, or lack of range on defense. With that said, I don’t think he’s going anywhere, so I’ll cross my fingers, and hit my knees every night praying he’ll improve, and that Harden will stay healthy.
Jimmyeatworld
I didn't really want
Lou as the manager but I did say if they hired him I would support him and give him a chance. I’m glad he’s here.
+1
I wanted Girardi as well. Sometimes I tend to think he is putting on a show when he gets ejected. Its ironic that Torre moved to Hollywood but Girardi is the actor
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
I'll join this chorus.
Lou has been absolutely the perfect manager for this team. I’m very happy with him—even though the way he uses the pitching staff at times drives me nuts. The best thing about Lou is that losing is not an option with him, and if things don’t work he’ll try something else.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I love that about Lou
how losing pisses him off. Helping change the culture of the Cubs
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 10, 2008 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Unfortunately we will all starve
You know who will eat all the crow around. When he is done with that he will eat the ravens as well
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
MY CROW
comes in Dempstervision. I honestly was thinking he would not and SHOULD not make the rotation. He is valuable when he is able to showcase all of his pitches.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
Darn it, I guess I can't watch your crow.
Dempstervision is only available in Canada ; )
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
I was wrong about
Dempster as a starter. I was also wrong about overusing Marmol having a negative effect on his performance. Turns out a rest only made him suck ass. Go figure! I was wrong about Edmonds too.
This feels damn good!
Calm down.
LOL you were wrong
about submitting to THE SHIRTS…...jk
Youre the man.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
I thought that Pat Perry should have been kept on the team in '89!
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 10, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions
LOL
Actually, I was surprised they dumped him then, too.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Count me as +1,000
on being wrong about Edmonds.
Here’s another one. I kinda thought the combination of Eric Karros and Randall Simon would be good again in 2004.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
That's a hole different topic. Guys who you thought it'd be good to bring back...
My crow: Gary Gaetti
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Jul 11, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL
when you go back to your original post, I am a big contributor——damn myself!!!!
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
I was wrong
when I initially hated the Randall Simon trade.
I wished so hard for Fred McGriff to leave Tampa Bay, and that was wrong.
I really wanted Juan Pierre, and now I covet Ricky Nolasco. I was wrong, and I think covetousness is frowned upon.
I urinated on a car bumper with a cardinals’ sticker and that was wrong.
I sometimes wear women’s underwear… but I don’t have a problem with that.
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
what ever feels comfortable
go with it.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
I was SO wrong about Edmonds.....
he was done, kaput, a total waste of resources. I thought Hendry had eaten some bad meat, taken LSD, drank a case of whiskey to come up with such a loser.
I also couldn’t figure out the Lilly signing, A fly ball pitcher at Wrigley. He has been good more often than bad, and so…....
So, I slow cook my crow, make a garlic cream sauce and have been eating it regularly.
The poem fails when it strays too far from the song, and the song fails when it strays too far from the dance ~ Ezra Pound
Well lets see
I thought when Dempster made his ST prediction that he wouldn’t even make the team. Now he is our second best starter.
Every time Fontenot was in the lineup I had Neifi flashbacks. Wrong again.
I didn’t think Theriot could sustain his April numbers the whole season- Wrong again.
And finally I also wanted Joe Girardi as the manager. Wrong again.
Crow has been eaten.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
Eat Up
I really thought Blue Mike would make an appearance on this post. I was Wrong, wrong, wrong.
Oh, and I also thought Felix Pie would start the season off with a bang and be playing every day in center right now.
Can I have some catsup?
For this week I was wrong about Big Mike (although I am not sold this is not a Onedec like turn around)
I was wrong about Howry. I thought his (and eyre’s signing was fluff)
I was wrong about Dempster, I thought he would be much to wild and have trouble getting past the 5th/
I was wrong about Ryan “The Rocket” Theriot…I thought his hitting would plummet.
I was wrong our pitching coach, I thought he should get flushed down the Dusty bowl.
I thought Chris Spier was our next manager (pre-DUI)
I was wrong about Sammy Sosa. He was a druggy and I am embaressed that he hit 600 HR.
I was wrong to listen to any talk by anyone associated with MLB about Steroids…They don’t give a crap, and known ‘Roiders are trend setters, all-stars, and “heroic stories”
I was wrong that the last 2 or 3 games in Sanf Fran would be blood-baths. I still have the itch for it though.
i still think I am right about FePie, and hope that Crow day comes covered in Raven and Robins and a bluejay pie for desert!
Nice nice topic… I could eat crow all day. And my bigger sins are slipping my mind.
Was wrong about Rich Hill
I really expected…maybe hoped…he’d have a great year for the Cubs. Perhaps the baseball gods can touch that brain of his and provide one more great story for the second half of the season?
At the beginning of the year....
...I told friends that I’d rather have Lieber and Marshall in the rotation than Dempster and Marquis. I thought Dempster would be as inconsistent this year as he was as a reliever.
Ok, I was half wrong on that one. (Still rather have Marshall than Marquis)
Fontenot is proving me wrong lately. I hope he keeps it up.
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
I was wrong about Sean Gallagher
he turned out to be a nice starter. Unfortunately, he is with the bad guys now…:)
The 100th time has GOT to be a charm...
he plays for the Sox?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I was totally wrong
About Mark DeRosa. I called him “Todd Walker Light”
I was right about Todd Walker (and about Grudz being better and more valuable)
I really enjoy watching DeRosa hit and field.
I was wrong about Derrick May
He sucked.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
Definitely wrong about the DeRosa acquisition. I thought it was a total waste of money.
Also, I didn’t think I’d like key lime pie.
by HereComesASpecialBoy on Jul 11, 2008 9:42 AM CDT reply actions
I was wrong about DeRosa, also
However, I’ve always liked key lime pie. Never did I envision myself as a scotch drinker—was wrong about that.
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 11, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
guilty as well...
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Jul 11, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I always liked the DeRosa signing
but I expected him to be a supersub from the bench while platooning with Eric Patterson this year. Missed the mark a bit on that one.
I forgot
about the crow that needs to be eaten for my thinking that Felix Pie was going to play centerfield daily and challenge Soto for ROTY. MMM crow tastes so good.
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 11, 2008 9:50 AM CDT reply actions
GEO
When Soto struck out EIGHT times in a row in Washington in April, I was SURE that the other teams had a book on him and he was going to become this year’s Koye Hill.
Thankfully, Geo continues to make the necessary adjustments and he is truly deserving of his all-star selection. M-m-m—m, this crow is delicious.
Demp
Thought he would be OK. I was thinking 10 wins would be nice from him over the entire season and he’s already there halfway in.
Great subject
First off, great subject to discuss. I think we’ve all been wrong about one thing or another in relation to this team and this season.
I’ll eat some crow and say that Rothschild isn’t the worst pitching coach in baseball anymore. He still scares me, but so far this year things are going fairly well with the pitching staff (except Marquis). Another plus is that we havn’t been hearing about the towel drill at all lately.
I was very leary of Wood closing, but so far, so good.
I would eat crow for Jim Hendry, but we’ll see how the Harden trade works out first. I didn’t think we could get him, but Jim was able to get him for a few spare parts laying around the garage.
Dempster
While I thought he’d do better than most expected this has totally flummoxed me in a happy way.
I was President of the No Jim Edmonds club even making a joke saying they signed him because they had had 2 angels trying to win now they needed Satan.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Jul 11, 2008 12:12 PM CDT reply actions
Also
How about we talk about times we went out on a limb and people called us crazy and we turned out right?
In 2003 I said I thought Zambrano in the long term would be better than Prior and Wood. Of course I might have been wrong if the others had stayed healthy and starters.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Jul 11, 2008 12:14 PM CDT reply actions
I was behind Dempster all the way.
And I was right that DeRosa would be a big part of this team.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm probably
the only Cubs fan that was impressed with Wuertz at the beginning of this season. He seemed to start out well and looked like a better long man than Lieber. Lately he has looked not so good, I’ve realized he only has about 1.5 pitches to work with and he’s on his way back to Iowa.
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 11, 2008 12:27 PM CDT reply actions
It's not eating the crow that bothers me
as much as the pigs that have been flying out of my butt since I finally accepted Jim Edmonds as a Cub. I never had a problem with his being an ex-Card and always respected his considerable skills, I just plain didn’t like him because of all his whining and complaining about called strikes and his occasional penchant for trying to make routine catches look spectacular. However, to his credit, his attitude has been great since he’s been on the Cubs and he’s undeniably helped the team. And I guess the good thing about all the pigs is that we haven’t had to buy any bacon or sausage for a few weeks now…
by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Jul 11, 2008 12:56 PM CDT reply actions
I'm eating no crow...
for the 2001 draft. As a HS senior from Minneapolis and Cubs fan, I was praying the Twins would take Prior, so I could see the Cubs take Mauer. Although I was forced into early retirement from HS baseball by being very ONEDEC HS edition, I was fortunate enough to graduate the same year as Mauer and to get to see him murder us when he was at Cretin Durham HS here.
Now I was right on Mauer (besides power), but then we would never have Geo, who I think I like a little better.
BWT, looking over the draft, I had no idea Fonty was taken with the 19th overall pick in that very draft.
Had the Twins taken Prior...
... the Cubs would almost certainly have taken Mark Teixeira, not Joe Mauer.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I'm hungry
I thought Jacque Jones was a good pick up.
God this crow tastes like shit.
"Please move away from this vector and get into another coordinate pronto. There's no access for you in this quadrant." Mike Donnelly
I was wrong to hate the Choi-for-Lee trade
Didn’t think we should swap a lefty bat for another righty. Plus DLee had a terrible NLCS against us.
"That’s what I love about my skip, man. He’ll tell you that you suck...I know I suck. We know we suck...Yeah, we suck. But we’ll see who sucks at the end."
- Gary Sheffield
by DrGalazkiewicz on Jul 11, 2008 11:07 PM CDT reply actions
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