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San Francisco Giants at Chicago Cubs, Jul 11, 2008 1:20 PM CDT



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San Francisco Giants
@ Chicago Cubs

Friday, Jul 11, 2008, 1:20 PM CDT
Wrigley Field

Matt Cain vs Jason Marquis

Partly cloudy. Winds blowing out to center field at 5-15 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 85.

Complete Coverage >


What a difference a year makes: when the Giants last visited Wrigley Field, their team record (38-51 when the 2007 series began) was almost identical to what it is today (39-53). But this year's Giants, seven games out of first place in the horrid NL West, still think they're in playoff contention. (Don't tell 'em, they're not.) If the Giants were in the NL Central, they'd be dead last, sixteen games out of first place.

Jayson Stark's ESPN.com "Rumblings" column has some fun ideas on how to make the All-Star Game and surrounding events more interesting.

Will Carlos Zambrano start the All-Star Game? It's a definite possibility.

And, today the Wall Street Journal analyzes why the National League is being dominated by the American League.

Today's Starting Pitchers
Jason Marquis
J. Marquis
Cubs
vs. Matt Cain
M. Cain
Giants
6-5 W-L 5-7
4.78 ERA 4.30
49 SO 112
37 BB 50
8 HR 12
vs. SF -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Jason Marquis 6-5 16 16 0 0 0 0 92.1 100 52 49 8 37 49 4.78 1.48


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Matt Cain 5-7 19 19 0 0 0 0 119.1 109 59 57 12 50 112 4.30 1.33

Today's pitching matchup is a rematch of the one in San Francisco on July 1. Marquis pitched pretty well that day (seven innings, four hits, two runs). Cain pitched better, shutting out the Cubs for eight innings. They managed to score off the Giants' closer, Brian Wilson, and get the tying run to scoring position, but the game ended on a Ryan Theriot strikeout.

It'll be a little hotter (88 degrees forecast) than it was in San Francisco that night (60 degrees) and the wind will be blowing out again. I'm guessing the score will be higher than 2-1.

Please, Jason. Have one of your GOOD games today.

This afternoon you can find the game on EI, since it's on cable in both Chicago and the Bay Area. Also see the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)

Baseball-reference.com game preview

Today's first pitch thread will post at 1:15 pm CT and the overflow comment thread will post at 2:30 pm and 3:30 pm CT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 10:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think you missed the joke....

(picture of Bill Frist above)

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

argh!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

It SHOULD be Marquis and Marshall fighting for the 5th spot in the rotation.

---AC 00 00 00 - Believe

by mjk83 on Jul 11, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

.

Only wetter

by patron on Jul 11, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWSS

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you popped

my cherry!

I think

by patron on Jul 11, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait for it...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

GO CUBS

LETS WIN THIS 1ST ONE THEN WIN THE SERIES

by lescubbies on Jul 11, 2008 10:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Go Cubs

Lets hope we try to hit the ball hard. Rather than hit long Home Runs.
It seemed we got a little homer happy as yesterdays game went on.

by patron on Jul 11, 2008 10:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

.

The Reds where happily homering.
The Cubs were homer happy.

by patron on Jul 11, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They all caught the train to...

Souvanier City!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can ony assume yes

haven’t seen the lineup yet

by lescubbies on Jul 11, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His AB's have not been so crisp lately

as shown by his rising strike out rate: 18, 15, 22 and 13 (so far this month)
And his plumeting Walk rate: 18, 16, 17 and 3 (in July)

His July totals are alarming. 3, 0,1,2,1,0,2,1,3

For you numbers people, his OBP is an unbelievable .237

-g

by patron on Jul 11, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you don't start him

then you might have Ward in his place.

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 11, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be ...

sad. What about Johnson, Edmonds, DeRosa.

I’m not saying bench…Just saying rest.
The All-Star break will not be restful for him, I wouldn’t think.

by patron on Jul 11, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't know

Why everyone seems to think Dome won’t get rest over the break. If by rest you mean not playing well he’s only going to play about 4 innings over 3-4 days. It should still benefit him greatly.

by cubs on Jul 11, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cause rest is mental too.

More travel…
A ton more interviews.
And parties.
It wouldn’t be like 4 days at the beach with your wife and kid.

Oh shit, that isn’t restful either.

by patron on Jul 11, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My point was just that the Cubs are short of outfielders at the moment

having not replaced Murton.

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 11, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right.

But resting Fuku for a day, dosen’t mean Ward has got to play lf/rf

by patron on Jul 11, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, let's hope Jason doesn't try...

to be too fine with his pitches, let’s hope he pitches to contact. Let’s get this 1st game of the series.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 10:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's hope

He keeps the ball down

by cubs on Jul 11, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Si.

When he trusts his pitches and the defense behind him, he usually keeps the ball down. When he doesn’t, he tries to be too fine, gets behind in the count, and they sit on his fastball. When he gets behind in the count, his fastball is transparent, and eminently hittable.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pitching to contact with the wind blowing out might be scary...

...but, then again, it’s the Giants.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously...

...they have the least intimidating lineup in baseball.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big Series

We have to be able to beat bad teams no matter how good their pitchers may be. Cain is very beatable and I expect Cubs hitters to respond better this 2nd time facing him. Going into the break with Harden and Demp pitching, we NEED to win this very winnable series.

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jul 11, 2008 10:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

we win this

That would be 3 series wins in a row. Very nice way to go into the break.

by cubs on Jul 11, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the other jason

i thought starks ideas on the home run derby were bad…..having guys go back and forth in the final round would ruin the hot streaks that are so fun to watch

by cubswynn on Jul 11, 2008 10:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

disagree

You still have the chance to get hot because you have 3 outs per inning. So if a guy gets into a rhythm he can still hit 5 or 6 in a row before being retired. This also allows guys to get a little breather and not be dead tired towards the end of their final round

by 26.2cubsfan on Jul 11, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Newest A's

Gallagher starts tonight vs. the Angels…..Good Luck, fellas!
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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 10:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what happened to the good

old days when online photos were still a team or two behind?

by patron on Jul 11, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

photoshop happened...lol

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

E-Pat

Lookin good in the green and yellow

by cubs on Jul 11, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

And Sean.. Well.. still got that goofy smile

by cubs on Jul 11, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be smiling too...

...sure, he lost out on a chance to go to the playoffs, but he’s going to be a starting pitcher in the big leagues the rest of the year. With us, there was always a chance he’d get sent back down.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

gallagher

has such a goofy smile haha

by cubswynn on Jul 11, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gallgher

i think he should sue to get a new picture taken now that he’s on a new team. He is actually a nice looking youngster. Not really handsome but not bad.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 11, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Patterson's

not actually in the lineup, is he?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Both Murton and EPat are at AAA

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, really?

Bummer for them.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 11, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thoguht I'd heard

Murton might be starting for them this week.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The A's site on SB nation say they may DFA Emil Brown to make room...

...but he had a walk off homer for them last night. So who knows…

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would hope Gallagher would get a new picture

that one scares me

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson

by MikeOxbyg on Jul 11, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not sure if this has been brought up

I believe yesterday was the second time this year the Reds hit 7 homers in a game against the Cubs.

by gocubsgo22 on Jul 11, 2008 11:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone else find this a little weird?

Any good conspiracy theories out there? I remember when Rich Hill got lit up by the Padres a couple times last year, some of us speculated that Maddux was giving hitters the inside scoop. I can’t think of an obvious parallel to this with the Reds, though.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 11, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe Dusty

has a mole in the Cubs organization, maybe Rotschild is loyal to him. There was also that conspiracy about Dusty having Jose Macias stealing signs from the CF bushes.

Go ahead, Z me.

by tony412 on Jul 11, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

First time in MLB history..

that one team has hit 7 homers against the same team twice in the same season.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way.

So Wuertz accepted the assignment?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 11, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

did he have a choice?

what’s he gonna say? no

by cubswynn on Jul 11, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought they couldn't send weurtz to Iowa

I don’t know what gave me that idea.

by cubs on Jul 11, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

because he's out of options

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has one option left...

...but, because of his service time, he can refuse a minor league assignment.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 11, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay, because of service time....that makes sense...

still I’m shocked that he accepted it. Lot of teams out there looking for pitching.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I'm surprised, too.

Then again – and I don’t want to go all lemon20pie here – in the game thread yesterday I wondered out loud whether Wuertz might accept the assignment if Lou sat down with him and explained the situation at hand.

Who knows, maybe Michael has a nagging injury of some sort that he feels he could work through better at the minor league level than the major league one. Or maybe he has some “mental issues” (a la Rich Hill) or personal problems going on. In any case, this is an interesting development.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 11, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is True Dat

the new +1?

Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Jul 11, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I prefer to think of it...

...as a version of “+1” exclusive to me. Aren’t I just full of myself?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 11, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True Dat

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel

by Blue W on Jul 11, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, thanks!

Waitaminute…

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 11, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're full of something...

:)

Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Jul 11, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True...

....plus he’s probably the first option if anyone struggles or gets hurt to come back up, and he’d definately be up in September.

You just don’t see veteran pitchers accepting demotions when they’re out of options much anymore.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he sees the potential of this team

to get to and do well in the playoffs so he wants to be there and contribute when it happens. I don’t think we’ve seen the last of him just yet. (For better or worse.)

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel

by Blue W on Jul 11, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe

wuertz accepted it after lou sat him down and told him he’s never going to use him anyway, so he might as well go down to AAA to pitch more often than once a week…just a thought

by gocubsgoradio720 on Jul 11, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i doubt that

weurtz could have requested a trade and he could be used on another team.

by cubs on Jul 11, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm

i consider myself a pretty savy baseball person, but i haven’t heard of that before…..things that make you go hmm

by cubswynn on Jul 11, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, if I understand correctly...

...he could have said no or demanded to be released outright.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 11, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is a Cub, wants to stay a Cub

and he doesn’t have to be told that his pitching has been off. Last year, he was great for us. Weurtz probably thinks that the move is good for HIM to get back to his form of last year. He knows he has been hurting the team.

The poem fails when it strays too far from the song, and the song fails when it strays too far from the dance ~ Ezra Pound

by crazymountain on Jul 11, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel

by Blue W on Jul 11, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow....

We’re still staying with 13? And with Weurtz didn’t have any options left?

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Check out this...

...handy dandy chart devised by the guys over at the Cub Reporter. Obviously, its accuracy is reliant on them updating it, but I believe the information is correct.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 11, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, I never realized Micah Hoffpauir is only six years old!

Pretty good hitter for a first grader.

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (#13031 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list...)

by Zeke on Jul 11, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They start 'em

on steroids early these days

Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Jul 11, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please set off site links

to open in a new window so we don’t lose our place in the threads.

Baseball is too much of a sport to be a business and too much of a business to be a sport.
William Wrigley Jr

by bubbamike the one and only on Jul 11, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good.

maybe Rich Hill can help Michael get his head on straight.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would be pumped if i were him

DSM is lovely this time of year haha

by cubswynn on Jul 11, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

Maybe he’ll get his stuff back together down there and hook up with one of his old “slumpbusters”?

by Itchy on Jul 11, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why didn't they bring up someone

to play LEFT FIELD???

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still a Hmmm

to be staying with 13

by patron on Jul 11, 2008 11:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

only 3 games until the break

could probably use a reliever for these 3 more than a hitter

by cubs on Jul 11, 2008 11:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sori's not coming back until the 2nd series after the break...

so that’s a short bench for a while.

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where did you hear that?

I did hear he was feeling sore in batting practice and they might have him do a minor league rehab stint.

by cubs on Jul 11, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ahhh yes….the good old reliever that lou would never use (unless his name ends with ‘mol,’ ‘ood’, etc….sorry to beat a dead horse here but it’s true.

by gocubsgoradio720 on Jul 11, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dubois

40 yd dash from infield to outfield wall 26.2 second

by cubs on Jul 11, 2008 11:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

give him a week

until the bashing continues….i mean the guy was 3 for 3 the other night with 3 hr’s…...and they were all monsters

by cubswynn on Jul 11, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its triple A

If he was capable of doing that against major league pitchers he would probably be up here by now.

by cubs on Jul 11, 2008 11:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if you say that

do you say the same thing about jeff samardzija’s performance the other night?

by cubswynn on Jul 11, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I'm half-joking.

The half of me that’s serious says why not bring Jason up here and see if he catches fire for a few days? There’s probably 50 reasons not to, but his home run streak seems to warrant giving him at least a little more consideration than usual.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 11, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it was interleague and he could DH

I’d say yes. His defense though. Ouch

by cubs on Jul 11, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Samardzija is in his 2nd year as a professional baseball player.

Jason Dubois has had tons of chances to prove himself. He is beating up on guys 5 years younger than him. I’m not impressed.

by cubs on Jul 11, 2008 11:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Damnn right.

Have you seen Dubois in the majors. Sure he hits the occasional homerun but it is not a pretty site.

by lescubbies on Jul 11, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 hrs in 3 at bats doesn't impress you?

maybe you had to be there, but they were monster homeruns….i dunno, i was impressed

by cubswynn on Jul 11, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can never remember

how to spell his name. I’ll just call him Jeff Alphabet from now on or maybe the Alphabet Shark.

Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Jul 11, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alphabet Shark!

That’s great!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Third season

actually. He was drafted in 2006.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Jul 11, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey where does it say wuertz got sent down? I don’t see anything on fox sports or the official cubs site

by nmcubsfan on Jul 11, 2008 11:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bruce Levine said on ESPN 1000

Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs

by nji232 on Jul 11, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

From ChicagoTribune.com

Cubs have new look
Dave van Dyck, 11:45 a.m.
Lou Piniella not only had a different look in the bullpen for Friday’s Wrigley Field game against the Giants, he had a new-look outfield as well.

After allowing four hits, a walk and four runs in 1 1/3 innings Thursday, Michael Wuertz was sent to Triple A Iowa and Kevin Hart was recalled. The Cubs still have 13 pitchers, leaving them a position player short on the bench and Piniella said they would stay that way through the weekend.

Also, Friday’s starting outfield consisted of Daryle Ward in left, Reed Johnson in center and Mark DeRosa in right, which gave struggling right fielder Kosuke Fukudome and veteran center fielder Jim Edmonds a rest.

Fukudome, who will start in Tuesday’s All-Star in New York in center field, is hitting .170 in his last 12 games.

by Itchy on Jul 11, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, interesting.

Well, it’s obviously hard to dispute that Dome and Jedmonds need a rest. Seeing DWaryle in the outfield is always a cringe-worthy proposition, but maybe he can figure out how to hit Matt Cain, because no one else could the last time the Cubs faced him.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 11, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

hopefully Marquis’ sinker is sinking today

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 11, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Second time in a row

that Lou has played the B team for Jason’s start.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 11, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cmon

If anything Jason needs the A team. Doesn’t make any sense to me

by cubs on Jul 11, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's keen on resting A team

according to pre-game press conference

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 11, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that it doesn't make sense.

I’m asking why Lou has done it twice in a row.

I’m not saying that Jason Marquis is the next John Smoltz, but, when his starts get skipped and he gets the worst defense Lou can play behind him, Lou isn’t exactly treating him fairly. Rest the OF when Z is pitching.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 11, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1 to the Nth power

Best statement thus far.

by chilango2 on Jul 11, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Second time in a row

that Lou has played the B team for Jason’s start.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 11, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clip of Lou on radio

Said no need for 13 pitchers after break. Also mentioned rest for outfielders with Ward playing is on the way.

Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs

by nji232 on Jul 11, 2008 11:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

gawd

he’s better than Hoff, but that’s not saying much…

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's strange...

y’day he said Soriano won’t be back until the 2nd series after the ASB, so he wants to bring up a hitter for 3 days after the ASG?

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yesterday

we all went into the game expecting a victory, and a sweep.

Today, with Marquis, we’re all much more hesitant.

Given what happened yesterday, I hope that today is opposite day too.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 12:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Drewishdrewid

I bet your hoping you owe me 20 big ones on Aug 30 now that we got Harden eh lol

by cubs on Jul 11, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope I owe you 20 big ones too.

I really do.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dome with a much needed day off....

From Gordo’s Twitter;

Tired Fuku gets day off. Starting. OF, L to R: Ward, Johnson, DeRosa.

No lineups posted

by JB 23 on Jul 11, 2008 12:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

cwyers

I shoulda bet ya on wuertz.lol

thank god he’s done here

by plenz on Jul 11, 2008 12:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

why not Dubois?

the guys rippin it up in AAA

by plenz on Jul 11, 2008 12:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The game is on AFN today

Woohoo! I get to listen to Len and Bob and not have a time delay from MLB.tv!!!

I just put a pot of Zatarain’s jambalaya on the stove with a pound of smoked sausage, and also threw in a leftover chicken breast I had in my fridge. I predict this meal will lead to multiple home runs for the Cajun Connection Theriot/Fontenot!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jul 11, 2008 12:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah!

Throw in some voodoo spices just for good measure.

by chilango2 on Jul 11, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do they come in the form of garlic powder or hot sauce?

If so, way ahead of ya :)

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jul 11, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Recipe?

Hmmm…jambalaya!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zatairan's box mix

Though I added plenty of garlic powder, and used a pound of smoked sausage, and also threw in a chicken breast I grilled earlier this week and had leftover, which had been marinated in zesty garlic herb mrs. dash marinade

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jul 11, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds good...

Can never have enough garlic powder in any recipe…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Concur completely

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jul 11, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perfect!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jul 11, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

NASN in Europe today too

Woohoo!

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 11, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Outstanding!

I’ve been too cheap to subscribe to british tv so far, since I don’t have a multi-system tv yet… so I’m just watching AFN via a satellite dish on my american tv :)

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jul 11, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it might lead to

multiple home runs for you too!

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 11, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moises Alou out the rest of the year with torn left hamstring.

Gives him plenty of time to get that Bartman story straight.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 12:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And plenty of time...

to, umm, wash his hands. Yuck.

by salparadise23 on Jul 11, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if he does "it" even when he's on the DL.

His hands might soften up otherwise.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 11, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying it's a good thing

but it IS sterile, ya know.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

twss

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you wish...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

swl..... great burn. you had me giggling out loud at that one

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 11, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's just mad I said it first...lol

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent!

Photobucket

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

wow..too damn big..

sorry bout dat…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually,

it’s only 28K.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

twss

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 11, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice!!!

"Please move away from this vector and get into another coordinate pronto. There's no access for you in this quadrant." Mike Donnelly

by McRipper on Jul 11, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welcome!

Yes, we always need more women. Is this when we take over?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 11, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Girl powaaaaa!

Please don’t blame me if you end up with Spice Girls songs stuck in your head all day.

by jennypage on Jul 11, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm too old for the Spice Girls!

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 11, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

welcome!

i am also too old for spice girls

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 11, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

And you are never too old for some mid-late ‘90s nostalgia! ;)

by jennypage on Jul 11, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Newbies have to answer one thing first....

1. Theriot…yay or nay?

This will determine where you sit at lunch.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

perfect analogy!!!!!

Any bets on how many threads it’ll take before the debate starts?

I vote for 10

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 11, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll say at the first ground ball to him....

....but I’ve seen it as early as the announcements of the starting lineups. Ugh.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nay

gets caught stealing too many bases.

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 11, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

newbies only question...

...we didn’t want to stir things up already. :)

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol! ::zips it::

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 11, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he has put the breaks on his running game recently..

I think he was trying to make up for the doubles he wasn’t hitting.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and you think that Soto is a dreamboat...

....you’ll have to get to the back of the line. Quite a lot of lady followers here. LOL.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha!

I think I can cope…somehow! LOL.

by jennypage on Jul 11, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, you're more of a Scott Eyre girl?

...

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel

by Blue W on Jul 11, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good

the Soto girls approve

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 11, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the soto girls will put that up to a vote when we are all here

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 11, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey less competition!

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 11, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

havent seen any of them here yet today

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 11, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's his dreamy

Cajun Ninja good looks, isn’t it…

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWHW

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since when did DeRo convert from Italian to Cajun?????

:-)

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 11, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"but Fontenot's cute too"

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ninja

PLEASE!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LBR?

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson

by MikeOxbyg on Jul 11, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

waiting for the picture.....

where is cwyers????

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 11, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Greinke to St. Louis?

One of my friends who lives out that way and is actually (wait for it…) a Royals fan. Told me that the Cards are looking to get Greinke from KC, KC is looking for three “top tier” prospects in return.

Greinke is f’n nuts. Nearly gave up baseball last year because he wanted to start a lawn mowing business instead, and in interviews has stated that they should play him at SS on the days he’s not pitching.

Sort of reminds me of Ron Artest trying to get a job at Best Buy when he was with the Bulls.

by drMeth on Jul 11, 2008 12:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If they try to get Rasmus

No way StL gives him up. That probably is what KC is asking.

by cubs on Jul 11, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lineup per Gameday

Theriot – SS
Fontenot – 2B
Lee – 1B
Ramirez – 3B
Soto – C
Ward – LF
DeRosa – RF
Johnson – CF
Marquis – P

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jul 11, 2008 12:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

really...

what would this team do without Mark DeRosa…

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We would be in trouble

Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs

by nji232 on Jul 11, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

really big trouble....he just goes out and plays somewhere

...different everyday and does it with a smile.

by JB 23 on Jul 11, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou would have to, you know, carry four real OFers.

He might have been forced to even play Murton, or, ... what’s his name… the guy who covers CF like a blanket… oh, ... PIE!

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 11, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lots of scrappiness at the top of that lineup.

DWard needs to hit one out today.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 11, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just make sure you type the "S" when you talk about the top of the lineup

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson

by MikeOxbyg on Jul 11, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Little BR in the two-hole!

The Cajun Connection at the top!

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 11, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm telling you...

This jambalaya I’m eating will do good things for their performance!!!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jul 11, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When's the last time that Cedeno started?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 11, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like June 30.

I can’t blame him for looking bad as a PH in that case.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 11, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love your unwavering stance:

“Damn it, I refuse to use the reply feature!” Ha..

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel

by Blue W on Jul 11, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Possible Rain?

Dam you AFN I missed the Cubs intro! But straight to Len and Bob talking about the weather…

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jul 11, 2008 1:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It looks ugly

I just stepped outside and the temperature has dropped quite a bit. The skies look dark and the wind has shifted.

by chilango2 on Jul 11, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

still nice here

i am in hinsdale though..

by cubs on Jul 11, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm downtown

About 4 miles south of Wrigley.
The radar isn’t picking up any rain though. The airports are at 100 percent too.

by chilango2 on Jul 11, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait a second

Are you sure you’re talking about CHICAGO’S airports? I don’t think I’ve ever seen those things at 100%!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Jul 11, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well,

as 100 percent as they can be, I guess. ORD even has two visual ops as of 1:05 CDT.

by chilango2 on Jul 11, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm downtown, too.

It was gray earlier but, looking north toward the Hancock, the sky looks blue and cloudless.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 11, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it goes back and forth

ominous skies one moment, bright summer day the next

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 11, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quote

Roster move, “To help a depleted bull pen.” Len.
I hate him.

13 pitchers! is depleted?

by patron on Jul 11, 2008 1:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Marmol is shaky
Lieber can’t seem to make anything work
You can’t push Woody
Marshal may spot-start any day
Gaudin is nice, but new
Howry is, well, Howry.

I’m not saying I agree with it, but I do see where Lou’s coming from.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

good stuff

by cubs on Jul 11, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Drewish

I was going to say something about your original post being more limerick-ish than haiku.

Solid haiku, btw.

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Jul 11, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SO CLOSE

to green…

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also did

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 11, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES!

GREEN BABY!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've taken creative writing classes

Haikus something that I just havent been able to ever really get. So you get the very rare rec during a post

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 11, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fontenot plays now
Cajun Spicy throws to first
Theriot weak arm.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Mark that man's paper with an A

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 11, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could we have haiku only game thread day?

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson

by MikeOxbyg on Jul 11, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

if I could keep that up all day.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're

not nearly as easy as they seem….

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Jul 11, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, they're not.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have faith in you....

You might be the only one posting however as most of us have trouble just typing in English

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson

by MikeOxbyg on Jul 11, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWSS

Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Jul 11, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it could be.

let me noodle it around a bit.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where's crazymountain?

He could put a country twang to it.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 11, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Take a look at today's LF

and tell me that our bullpen is our weak spot.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 11, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you completely.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are talkinf quality

Fine. Len was talking about depletion. Wood didn’t pitch yesterday.
Marshall gets A spot start in the next 2 days?
Howr