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Aramis! - Cubs 3, Giants 1

It just doesn't get much better than this.

(Well, actually, it could, but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves).

Today's weather forecast was for hot, humid conditions with the wind blowing out -- not a good portent for Jason Marquis. But about an hour before gametime, low clouds blew in off the lake, cooling the temperature off 20 degrees; just before gametime the clouds lifted, the sun came out -- and the wind was blowing out of the east at 12 MPH, a good mark for Marquis, and he rose to the occasion, throwing seven outstanding shutout innings.

But the hero of the day, as he has been so many times before, was Aramis Ramirez, who came up with two on and one out in the bottom of the 8th and hit Tyler Walker's first pitch, a 92-MPH fastball up and out over the plate, just inside the LF foul pole, over our heads onto Waveland (where it appeared to have been caught by a kid -- ballhawk, perhaps you can provide details), and despite some sketchy play in the 9th inning, the Cubs had enough to hold on for a 3-1 win over the Giants.

Marquis had his sinker working early, as nine outs in the first five innings were recorded on ground balls, but even then, signs of weakening showed -- there were three or four flyouts that yesterday would have been deposited on Sheffield, but were held up by the stiff wind blowing in over the RF wall today. Marquis took full advantage before leaving for a pinch-hitter in the 7th. That was Kosuke Fukudome, who popped up and then remained in the game -- Fukudome and Jim Edmonds were both given the day off, and Fukudome didn't have a good at-bat, either. He stayed in the game to play right field and his arm was needed in the 9th.

Meanwhile, Matt Cain was matching Marquis, only with more strikeouts -- nine of them to Marquis' four, and Cain also had to be lifted after seven, due to a pitch count of 118. That was all the Cubs needed, as the Giants' bullpen, apart from closer Brian Wilson, has been a disaster area most of the year. After Ryan Theriot led off the 8th with a single to left-center, Mike Fontenot laid down a perfect sacrifice (nearly pushing it past Walker, too).

And then Bruce Bochy did something that absolutely stunned all of us -- he ordered Derrek Lee intentionally walked. In a scoreless game. To pitch to Aramis Ramirez. After having intentionally walked Ramirez two innings before. I just don't get it. Ramirez has consistently risen to such occasions; why would you do that? Yes, I know. It set up a possible double play.

And then why would you have your pitcher throw A-Ram a first-pitch fastball?

The answers to these questions are ones we like, of course, since Ramirez won the game with a homer, but this partly explains why the Giants are as bad as they are -- as bad as they looked when I saw them in spring training. They don't have a single player in double figures in home runs; their bullpen is in shambles, and their shortstop -- who some here would like to see the Cubs acquire, I have no idea why -- is hitting .153 and really ought to retire after a stellar career.

Good news today: Bob Howry threw an efficient scoreless inning. If he can build on this the Cubs will have many more options in the late innings.

Kerry Wood had a shaky 9th; it wasn't all his fault, but I'm not going to blame Mark DeRosa for having Ray Durham's fly ball go over his head for a double. The ball seemed to take off on him after he had it scoped out pretty well; what Lou might have done is to leave Edmonds, who had batted for Howry, in the game in CF, and move Reed Johnson to LF for defense. Doing this, though, would have left the bench with no one but Henry Blanco had the game gone to extra innings.

Which is one more reason not to have a 13-man pitching staff!!!

Rant over. The staff had one turnover today; Michael Wuertz was optioned to Iowa (surprising me, and others too, who assumed he had no options left) and Kevin Hart recalled. After the All-Star break, I assume either Hart or Sean Marshall will go to Iowa and a hitter will be recalled (Micah Hoffpauir seems the most likely, though BCB reader mrcubsfan, in from Des Moines for the weekend, told me Hoffpauir's been playing almost exclusively 1B there) until Alfonso Soriano returns, which is now tentatively scheduled for the Arizona series. (Soriano was in uniform today, shagging flies in the OF during BP.)

Finally, some Deep Goat rumors heard today: there were definitely scouts at the ballpark watching Jason Marquis today, and there is interest from more than one team. After this performance, which lowered his ERA to a not-unreasonable 4.44, interest might heat up. Cub scouts have been dispatched to watch at least one minor league team in order to gauge possible prospects the Cubs might want in return. (Sorry, can't tell you who at this time.) Also, the Cubs are still seeking left-handed relief help, so although there aren't any deals (that I know of) in the works right this minute, Jim Hendry may not be done dealing, and of course there are three weeks remaining.

A reminder: tomorrow's game is at noon, not the 2:55 on the original schedule. Since Fox blacks out EI broadcasts before 7 pm EDT on Saturdays, the only way you can see this game outside of the Chicago area (or SF Bay Area) will be on MLB.TV. If you voted in the Final Ballot All-Star voting, you should have received an email giving you a one-week free trial of MLB.TV, starting today.

Onward. I am, as I'm sure you are, excited to see Rich Harden's Cub debut tomorrow.

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Blood

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fail.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a Star Trek fan, I see.

neither am i, actually. just popped into my mind.

by jbau on Jul 11, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

first ever....

my first ever post….i now feel complete!

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 11, 2008 5:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

welcome!

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 11, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well thank you,...

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 11, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Al...
Cub scouts have been dispatched to watch at least one minor league team in order to gauge possible prospects the Cubs might want in return. (Sorry, can’t tell you who at this time.)

you “can’t” or “won’t” tell us?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 5:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Both.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 11, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know I think it's the Yankees.

I know you think it’s the Yankees. That’s all I’ll say…

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not.

And don’t think you’re going to find out by process of elimination, either.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 11, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't even going to try.

It’s enough to know that scouts were looking at Jason today. I’ve posted that I think Jason is the odd man out, (esp. if we can find someone to take on some of his money). It just lends credence to what I’ve thought already. It’s no secret that trading Marquis is really the only true option, at least not to me. That being said, Jason really threw well today. He kept the ball down, pitched to contact, and most importantly- stayed ahead in the count consistently. Good performance. Even a performance like today would look good in a big park with the wind blowing out, very attractive.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if the elimination game isn't going to work...

...then why bother with the No’s? Seems like every time you say No on a possible DG guess, or in this case, DG-supplied team, it just teases the masses a little more and more often than not, leads to more guesses which leads to more No’s and the cycle continues.

Be happy that you have a reliable inside source and savor the fact that the rest of us are insanely jealous…. ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 11, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO

Yes, I am.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 11, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and he could by lying about saying he's telling the truth....

hmmmm…very clever Mr. Yellon.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nah... if that were the case, he'd be in politics, not media.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 11, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm betting Deep Goat is..

either Ed Hartig or Carrie Muskat.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll never tell, one way or the other.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 11, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok, guess I should have kept reading for awhile before I commented.

Definitely do not believe ego is involved as someone else suggested. I just think the extended back-n-forth banter whenever DG is mentioned tends to fan the jealously [but almost always friendly] flames a bit. I’d prefer just to enjoy the tidbits that get dropped from time to time without sifting through a Woodward & Bernstein investigative thriller afterwards. And I figure that Al not responding to guesses would nip it in the bud. But then some folks would probably think Al to be rude by not responding so pay no attention to my rambling. I’m gonna go chase down a cold beer…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 11, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

hes being truthful, ive tried the process of elimination

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 11, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isnt that Deep Pig?

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson

by MikeOxbyg on Jul 11, 2008 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al

If you can’t, why would you put that in your review? To make everyone jealous of you, and your inside knowledge? Next time you have inside information like this that you cannot share. I completely understand there are times like this and respect that you keep the news quiet. However, do not broadcast or tempt it to your website. It makes it seem like you are showing off and being egotistical. Just my humble opinion.

by Mikey06 on Jul 11, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude...

Don’t tell Al how to run the show… He runs the show for all of us, everyday, and there are things he just can’t tell us. That being said, I’m glad he tempts us. Why, you say- it gives validity to us thinking deep thoughts by Jack Handey. Read some posts about who might go, who might stay. Play the game with us… Not trying to preach to ya, but… BCB is Al’s baby.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't tell me how to express myself.

It is America, and people are unique. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion (within legal reason) including me and you. So deal with it.

by Mikey06 on Jul 11, 2008 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You still could have just said..

“I’m jealous.” and saved all that typing.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not ego at all, as anyone who has met me can tell you.

Just trying to get info to all of you without doing anything that would jeopardize what the Cubs are doing or do anything that would cause any problems for my source.

I think you all could understand that.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 11, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't get me wrong.

I have nothing but respect for you and your website. You have done an outstanding with this website, that I am glad to be a part of. However, I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Nonetheless another exciting game and another great win, onward to Rich tomorrow.

by Mikey06 on Jul 11, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He COULD tell us

but then he would have to kill all of us. Very messy

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 11, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

plus

who would post pictures of a rabbit with a pancake on its head?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And

w/ the price of gas trying to track all of us down could get very spendy.

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I figured Al

more as a moped guy…

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Truthful statement:

I own a Prius.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 11, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jimmy...

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh no, not that sappy Boston Red Sox world series movie again...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 11, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, no...

someone’s supposed to say “DOCTOR SCOTT!”

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats a great date movie.

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 11, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to see ya.

SWL’s here. One of the girls, “halfblind”, but no Sue 369. Waitin’ for Daver., Hammer is here.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

at least some of the gang is here.

:-)

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

buy me a ticket!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too

i’ve only been to one game at wrigley.

but at least you’ll be w/ goodie. :-)

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll need a plane AND game ticket...

so just let me know before 10pm tonight…my cell phone number is…

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you want us to txt you w/ news on Z?

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im pretty jealous.

What I would not give to be at wrigley tomorrow.

by Mikey06 on Jul 11, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where u sitting?

Bleachers or Seats?

by Mikey06 on Jul 11, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LF corner.

Section #201 right next to the bleachers. Hoping to meet Al.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shoot me an email tomorrow and remind me.

Will try to stop by your seats before the game if I can.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 11, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Claaaarrrrk!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

top 5 movie IMO

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 11, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright.

I’ll deal. Apologies. All I’m saying is that this is Al’s baby. There are things, like sources, that he has to protect. I wouldn’t want to tell you how to express yourself, I’ve got enough to deal with on my own. Not what I meant.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Mikey

needs another serving of Life

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 11, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

B/c the news isn't ripe yet

he’s got his reasons.

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They dispatched cub scouts??

Haven’t they heard of child labor laws?

by daeviant on Jul 11, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 11, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that might be the line of the week.

well played, my friend.

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Cub scouts have been dispatched"

I’m picturing a group of twenty neckerchief clad 8-year-olds eagerly filing into a ballpark, clutching notebooks and binoculars..

"That’s what I love about my skip, man. He’ll tell you that you suck...I know I suck. We know we suck...Yeah, we suck. But we’ll see who sucks at the end."
- Gary Sheffield

by DrGalazkiewicz on Jul 11, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry daeviant

about two hours late I guess

"That’s what I love about my skip, man. He’ll tell you that you suck...I know I suck. We know we suck...Yeah, we suck. But we’ll see who sucks at the end."
- Gary Sheffield

by DrGalazkiewicz on Jul 11, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Be careful what you wish for!

Anyone else think that trading Marquis could be done in order to make room for Randy Wolf?

My gut tells me “yes.”

I can’t see us going through the season with only Marshall in the rotation and no backup starter. I’m not convinced that anyone in the organization see Lieber as anything but a “Break Glass in case of Emergency” kind of guy.

by Wreckard on Jul 11, 2008 5:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yea, activity doesn’t equal accomplishment and that is all

....trading for Wolf would be…shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic

by JB 23 on Jul 11, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

Lou’s lefty obsession will never be satiated.

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 11, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It won't be Wolf.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 11, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 11, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 11, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gossage!

EXHUME HIM! HE’S ALIVE!!!!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a Cub fan living in Denver....

I get to see Fuentes a lot. He’s had some good moments, but I think he’s extremely inconsistent. I would prefer we pass on him, so Al’s comment of “Nope” makes me feel better.

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 11, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As do I.

But I though it was possible his name could be part of a package.

by Mikey06 on Jul 11, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Feuntes

If we leave him alone he might end up in Milwaukee, which would help us more than if he were a Cub.

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson

by MikeOxbyg on Jul 11, 2008 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I like him too.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he is nasty when he's on

his breaking ball… is flithy.

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The DeRosa miscue.............

..................should have never happened. Edmonds should have remained in the game and played CF with Johnson moving over to LF.

Let’s face it: It cost the Cubs a run and could have been much worse.

We’ve covered some of these seemingly insignificant gaffes by Lou and given him the hall pass; another “senior moment”. But in reality, the manager must execute each time and Lou missed another one today.

"Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle." ~ George Burns

by tville on Jul 11, 2008 5:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

As I said...

... the problem with doing that defensive switch (which does make sense) would have left no one on the bench except Blanco had the game gone into extra innings.

GET RID OF THE 13TH PITCHER!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 11, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But

all those guys were already in the game by that point. Edmonds pinch hit for Howry.

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 11, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Edmonds could have remained in the game after he pinch hit.

That’s what I meant.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 11, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah

Making sure there were outfielders in each outfield position for the ninth. True, but the bench still only had Blanco on it, whether DeRosa was taken out or not.

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 11, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which was my point.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 11, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Times Have Changed

I remember the 10-man pitching staff. You had 4 true starters, 1 swingman (starter/long reliever), and 5 true relievers. Back then, two catchers were on the bench. I can’t stand the lack of flexibility on the benches of today’s major league teams. I want the Cubs to have more good relief pitchers, not extra mediocre relievers to make up for lack of quality. Give me 5 good arms on a 5-man relief staff in the pen over a combination of 2 good arms, 3 average arms, and 3 bad arms on an 8-man relief staff any day of the week.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jul 11, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably Hoffpauir, until Soriano is ready.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 11, 2008 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You really think it'll be Hoff.

I think it might be Pie, (because of his speed and versatility). How’s he doing down on the farm?

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's doing pretty well

and wouldn’t it be nice to have, oh, an OUTFIELDER to play outfield???

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you mean a guy play his natural position?

who DOES that!

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ivy Walls does.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is because they have 13 pitchers.

I do not understand the roster move today, however I like that Wuertz got sent to Iowa albeit shocked he accepted.

by Mikey06 on Jul 11, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hendrey or Lou?

Whose final decision is it on roster moves from the big league club and minors? And on the 13 man pitching staff? Is it possible this is Hendry’s decision? Especially hearing Lou’s pre-game comments how he does not want to have pitchers pinch hitting but his hands are tied with 13 pitchers.

by Mikey06 on Jul 11, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's both deciding.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 11, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know its both deliberating.

But say they disagree who has final authority. I know that they meet and figure things out. But their two different humans with two different opinions on many things including their same ball club I am sure they disagree.

by Mikey06 on Jul 11, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Lou might have the final say...

Being that Lou is, well, he’s Lou Piniella. He’s the one of the best there is, even with his senior moments.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats what I assume.

But you know what they say about assumptions.

by Mikey06 on Jul 11, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even so...

I think our assumption is correct. I wouldn’t want to be Jim Hendry, (as good as he is), and try to tell Lou how to manage his players or the team. You saw my above apology, right? We’re cool?

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent.

Al will never tell us… but I’m almost sure that it’s the Yankees. They need pitching. They can afford him. We can do without him. He’s right handed, when we know Lou wants two lefties in the rotation. It all adds up.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

who do we get

from the Yanks?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey thanks for the nicknames

on my roster talk post. We need to get nicknames for all of the boys.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sure.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dunno about nicknames

but I saw a classic movie about Ryan Theriot last night: “Singles.”

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 11, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

burn

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Caught stealing

isn’t a movie title?

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

double burn

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 11, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buddy of mine calls Riot

CS Singles.

I think it works…

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No..but Little Big Man is.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stealing Home.

Jodie Foster, Mark Harmon.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I saw a porn movie once called

Pasta Diving…:)

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw an AO once called...

oh wait I can’t say that here…

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jimmy...

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 11, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't wait for tomorrow brougham...

It’s gonna be a blast. Everybody here wants to go with us. We got to put a great post next week.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We should hold up a sign

“Blue Mike’s Wet Dream”

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 11, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I told Al.

We’d be the ones with the “BLUE MIKE WAS RIGHT” sign. Ha.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Other possibility

“STARTING PITCHER BROUGHT TO YOU BY BLUE MIKE’S LEFT NUT”

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 11, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like.

We need to do something of the sort. Use it for the fanpost with pics. Everybody here will love it.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm off to Walgreen's

to pick up the supplies. He he he!

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 11, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't claim this one, but a fellow Cub fan told me today that seeing as how...

we already have a Woody, a Harden, and a Johnson on this team, it would seem logical that we are targeting Wang from the Yankees.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 11, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO

Literally. Hilarious!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 11, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

New Name?

Would we have to change our name to the “Chubbies” then?

"Please move away from this vector and get into another coordinate pronto. There's no access for you in this quadrant." Mike Donnelly

by McRipper on Jul 12, 2008 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shocked

I’d be surprised to see the Yanks wanting Marquis. I don’t see that solving any problems for their pitching staff. I know they need arms, but they could get a Burnett easily or any of the other names we were looking at. Just my .02.

by Les Lancaster's Mullet on Jul 12, 2008 4:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou Piniella can't make a transaction.

Technically, Hendry and the other front office types are the ones that have the authority to tell the league that a player has been added to or removed from rosters. (Remember – Lou wasn’t even told about the Harden trade, according to Lou himself, until after it had occured.)

That said, there’s no reason to think that Piniella isn’t consulted about these matters, and there’s no point in giving Lou a player he doesn’t want, because he simply won’t play him. (Remember when Scott Moore got called up during Dusty’s last season?)

by cwyers on Jul 11, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well...

wouldnt a trade and a roster move be totally different things?

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 11, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And coming back to DeRosa...........

.............it nearly cost the team dearly today. Even without the extra pitcher, I say you have to put your best team on the field when you’re looking to close out with just three outs left.

Yes, the 13th pitcher did handcuff Lou a bit, but he should have lifted DeRosa regardless.

Further, with Wood throwing over 20 pitches, will he be available tomorrow?

"Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle." ~ George Burns

by tville on Jul 11, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No...Lou will have DeRosa pitch the 9th.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Marmol was warming up. He might have to close tomorrow.

A 10-0 win would solve that problem.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 11, 2008 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno about "dearly".

It was a misplayed ball, there’s no guarantee Soriano or Johnson or Edmonds ABSOLUTELY gets it.

Yes, DeRo’s playing out of position there. But we won.

I don’t think Woody’s available tomorrow, but Marmol is.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was in the bleachers 20 feet behind this play

He BADLY misplayed this ball, he was frozen for a full second or two before he started backpedaling. Granted it was a line drive and, as Al said, it took off on him. But a more experienced outfielder would have caught it easily IMO.

by cubsonWGN4ever on Jul 11, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

It accounted for the only run and could have been the tip of a disasterous iceberg.

To the point: A manager should not put players in a position to fail, and having a 2B in his SECOND DIFFERENT OUTFIELD POSITION IN THE SAME DAY, is, well, putting a player in a position to fail.

"Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle." ~ George Burns

by tville on Jul 11, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I said before....

... Lou could have sent Edmonds to CF and Johnson to LF for the 9th. But that would have left the bench depleted in case of extra innings.

Which is, again, why a 13-man pitching staff is a STUPID idea.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 11, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fielders make mistakes

Yes, DeRo is an infielder playing the outfield. And yes, DeRo had just moved to LF (with its different wind patterns.) But, fielders commit errors. Would anyone here have felt better if DLee were the culprit?

Part of a pitcher’s job is to bail out a fielder, just like part of a fielder’s job is to chase down a pitcher’s mistakes. That’s what makes baseball a team game.

After the “double”, Wood walked a weak hitter, and found himself in deeper trouble. Had he struck the next three guys out, none of us would be talking about DeRo. Had Marquis sucked, we wouldn’t be talking about DeRo, and had the Cubs scored 10 runs, Wood wouldn’t have been in the game.

Circumstances coming together is what makes baseball the game it is.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 11, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't get me wrong

Dero is HUGELY valuable to this team for the exact reason that he can play so many positions. Even he’s allowed a few mistakes.

He’s a huge fan favorite for a very very good reason.

by cubsonWGN4ever on Jul 12, 2008 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sometimes fielders make bad judgements. I play the outfield in softball, and it’s hard not to “cheat up” when you know the batter doesn’t have power. Plus, DeRosa had been playing right field the whole game where he had to play up instead of back. SO he takes the field, tracks the ball, but forgets he’s in left and the wind is carrying the ball instead of knocking it down. Now it’s still a error and a mistake on DeRosa’s part, but not a manager mistake. at least not to me

by nmcubsfan on Jul 12, 2008 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since Marquis was the equal of Cain today,..

how about we switch them? Think SF will mind?

by jbau on Jul 11, 2008 5:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rami

What a player he is, not a bad way to start the weekend.

Pretty damn excited to watch Harden tomorrow, be nice to win 1 of the last two or get greedy and get a sweep heading into the break.

ENJOY!

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on Jul 11, 2008 5:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Glad Cain Didn't Lose Game

I got what I wanted today. I wanted Cain to pitch a great game and still have the Cubs win. Cain went to Houston High in Shelby County, TN. I was glad ARam was able to take Walker deep in the 8th.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jul 11, 2008 5:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Frickin' Fox

I got all excited when I heard the game was moved up, since I would be consigned to the AZ game otherwise (I’m in New Mexico right now). Oh well, mlb radio it is

Zambrano viciously attacked a pair of watercoolers for the crime of being within his line of vision. It was a classic battle of man versus inanimate object.

by berselius on Jul 11, 2008 5:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I know.

I’m LIVID that I can’t watch this game. :(

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 11, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish he would have pitched today

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 11, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, explain to me how this works

Fox isn’t carrying the cubs game, but they still manage to black out EI? Will I be able to watch this game if I go to a bar down the street?

Zambrano viciously attacked a pair of watercoolers for the crime of being within his line of vision. It was a classic battle of man versus inanimate object.

by berselius on Jul 11, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Further investigation reveals

Per wikipedia:


The Fox network has exclusive nationwide rights for MLB games on Saturdays between 3:55 PM ET and 7:00 ET and ESPN has the same rights for games on Sunday after 8:00 PM ET. Games beginning in these periods of exclusivity can only be telecast by the network holding the exclusive national rights.

I guess I’ll cross my fingers and hope that the noon start will save me here

Zambrano viciously attacked a pair of watercoolers for the crime of being within his line of vision. It was a classic battle of man versus inanimate object.

by berselius on Jul 11, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Berselius,

Where at in NM are you?

by nmcubsfan on Jul 12, 2008 5:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm at Los Alamos for the next few weeks

Zambrano viciously attacked a pair of watercoolers for the crime of being within his line of vision. It was a classic battle of man versus inanimate object.

by berselius on Jul 12, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you think...

marquis raised his value today?

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 11, 2008 5:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

2 or more starts

If he shows that type of start in a couple of more starts, then yes. If he goes out and gives up a “typical” JM outing, then no.

A Cub fan in Cardinal territory.

by FSArkCubsFan on Jul 11, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

i agree

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 11, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel partially responsible for Michael Wuertz.

Two of my fantasy teams are named “From Bad to Wuertz” this year. Those teams are doing much better than their namesake this year.

by KatoRx on Jul 11, 2008 5:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ramirez is rapidly starting to climb up the ranks

of all-time Cub greats. I absolutely love the guy, and for the Giants to walk Derrek Lee in front of Ramirez had to be one of the dumbest moves I’ve seen all year. Derrek Lee is a leader of this team and is a all-star caliber player - but Aramis Ramirez is clutch - our David Ortiz—our Derek Jeter.

I’m sooo excited for Harden’s debut tomorrow. I wish I could go to the game.

My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!

by Unique on Jul 11, 2008 5:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You're soooo right about Rami.

I’ll take some pics tomorrow and do a post next week.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw that and just laughed.

Hard.

A Lot.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 11, 2008 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm so tired.

I don’t get it. Why you laugh?

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Walking DLee

To pitch to Rami, even though Rami had struggled a bit for a couple series, is absolutely silly. It was funny that he made them pay.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 11, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was so stunned

and then i laughed. I mean. Really? Do you NOT know Aramis is spanish for clutch?

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't Aramis also the name of a really bad men's cologne from the 80s?

right up down there with Stetson and Polo…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 11, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

I do know Aramis is the brand name of fine mens shirts. Dragon showed pictures of them when Rami hit his walk off against the Sox.

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're thinking of Adidas...

I wore the hell out of that in Junior High.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still popular I guess...

Photobucket

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've thought that

Since the Grand Slam he hit in the NLCS in 2003.

The blast he hit against the Crew last year in the bottom of the ninth cemented that feeling for me.

by Kornchex on Jul 11, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i was watching at work...

when Ramirez hit the walkoff on the mediacenter…i was so happy my eyes started watering. i worked in retail and customers were wondering why i was crying and running around, lol

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 11, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've followed Rami since he came to the big leagues...

with Pitt. He put up bigger numbers every year. Even when he was hurt. The Pirates kept trotting him out, and his defense suffered. He received, unfairly, a tag as a bad defender. I think he’s proven that false over the last three years. Some also complain that he doesn’t hustle. His legs are still weak, and you don’t want to lose a hitter like Ramirez. It infuriates me when people say he doesn’t hustle, and that he doesn’t care. This guy is one of the best hitters in the game, and I almost had an baseball orgasm when Hendry was able to get him as a “added value product” in the ‘03 deal for Lofton. What a steal. Hendry knew his history. He knew how good of a hitter he is, and would become. Ramirez is definitely the Cubs MVP. He’s the heart and soul of the Cubs along with D. Lee.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know there has been a lot of Marquis hate

but i think all things considered he has done ok. He is not our favorite but if we can parlay him into trade bait for another piece to the puzzle that would be ok with me. I don’t hate him as some others here do. He is frustrating at times but he is a #5 and has done ok in that role. Again, if Hendry can pull another rabbit out of his hat and turn Marquis into another gem of a trade for the 2nd half of the season that would be great.

Go CUBS !!!

"I don’t believe that things go your way," said Lou Piniella, the Cubs manager.
"I believe you make things go your way."

by Basman on Jul 11, 2008 5:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Last post of the day for me:

Chicago Cubs: most wins in all of MLB (as of 5:59pm CDT).

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 11, 2008 5:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

YAY!!!!

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 11, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

time for the ballhawk on-the-street report

unfortunately the streets I roam these days are in the Loop, not Waveland & Sheffield.

Yep, idiot that I am, I went and got myself a job. So my days of ballhawking are decidedly fewer than in the past, but at least I still got nights and weekends. Don’t get me wrong – money coming in is a good thing. A very good thing. But I can’t begin to tell you how much it sucks to get a text message in the middle of the day “Dunn – long gone!!!!”

So, no idea about the ARam homer today. If I had to guess, I’d say it was one of the ballhawks-in-training. Dave is always telling the kids to play down the line – maybe one of them finally listened.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 11, 2008 6:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Next you tell us you got a hair cut and sold your camero!

The gang is breaking up! NOOOOOOO!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha - wish I had enough hair to cut...

and if I had a camero, I would have sold it long long time ago. Nope, the car for me would have been a ‘66 mustang convertible…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 11, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Congrats on the new gig

unfortunately it is for the best…...but for the worst:)

Good luck man

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 11, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

9th inning question for those who saw the game

on that fly ball to right, if it’s anyone but Dome out there, would the runner have gone? Pat & Ron said it was a short fly and I forget who the runner was, but in a close game, I gotta think he’d be going if it was a different arm out there.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 11, 2008 6:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe.

It wasn’t too deep though. I said out loud when it came off the bat, “that’s not deep enough, it won’t get the runner in.” With that said, you definitely don’t test Fukudome’s arm.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The runner might have gone on most RF'ers...

and would have DEFINITELY gone on Ward or DeRosa. Dome saved at least 1 run.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really didn't think it was deep enough...

Calculated risk, they couldn’t afford to lose a runner at third with one out.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 11, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

disagree

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 11, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hammer,

what you talkin’ ‘bout Willis? You disagree, yet say below “No way”.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagreed with SWL....not you..

my bad….guess I replied wrong…..STORY OF MY LIFE.
Huh?

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 11, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no question....Dome played it well...

..the throw was bad, but it didnt matter as his quick approach and release kept the guy on third

by JB 23 on Jul 11, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way

I just finished watching it 5 mins ago…...it was a shallow fly ball….Only if JJ was out there and it was an elimination game would he have went.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 11, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

im excited....

good game today…and ALF is on WGN tonight!!! YES!! lol

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 11, 2008 6:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Animal Liberation Front has a TV show on WGN?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 11, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Booo..

Still early tho..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh. Our boys already won

the pressure’s on them.

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True that...

have the brewers started yet?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

1-1 bot 1st

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would be oh so sweet if..

the cards and brewers both lost and gallagher wins his game.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone tell me seriously

how good are my chances of getting two tickets together for tomorrow’s game if I’m downtown when the box-office opens?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 7:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I would venture to guess

not good

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 11, 2008 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never tried it myself...

but friends of mine have gotten lucky that way.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

TWSS

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha...

I set em up you knock em down..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good question.

I would think you could get SRO. Someone from Wrigleyville… help!

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You can find SRO.

Pretty easily down there from the brokers or vendors for face value just before the game if you wish to go SRO route.

by Mikey06 on Jul 11, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

SRO isn't bad either

if you’re willing to wander you can find a good spot. We ended up along 3B side with a great view of everything except the main scoreboard.

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to get actual seats

my wife would be along, and she’s having minor surgery in less than a week.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well,

I see upper-deck seats on Stub-Hub for $150 for two seats together. To me, that’s not too much, but she thinks it’s too much.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Talk her into it...

If you can afford it of course.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure we can.

I’d love to go.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

she doesn't want to spend the $$$

before it was Rich Harden’s first Wrigley start, we were going to sleep in, go out to dinner, see a movie. She says I can go by myself, but I don’t really want to do that…

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wish you could.

Oh well. Look for Goodie and I.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hope everything goes well with your wife Drew

My wife just had kidney stones surgically removed this week or she would be with me at the game. I’ll keep you in my thoughts, man.

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 11, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh. I hope everything goes well!

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well. no one wants to go w/ me and riding

the train into the city makes me nervous. And I’m a lil broke at the moment.

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

aww. aren't you sweet!

:-) but don’t worry about it. I’ll be here w/ the radio.

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude?

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just saying I'm not that sweet...

And “dude” works in all types of situations. Like the Bud Lite commercials.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know. I was responding with the questioning version of dude

Like you say. Dude. and i ask Dude?

sigh stupid text. :-P

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah. Not stupid.

I’m tired… I’m going to get a drink soon. Then feed the girls and get some sleep for tomorrow.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good plan.

I’m going to scrounge up some dinner and throw a movie in I think. :-)

Night Jimmy. Have a great time at the game tomorrow!

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude.

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 11, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha..

The Dude Abides..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Night girl.

See ya back here soon.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what train?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Southshore into Millenium Station than the Red line

up to Wrigley. Its not hard… I just don’t particularly like going by myself.

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm coming from the other direction

or I’d ride with you. Do you actually HAVE a ticket?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

to tomorrows game?

no.

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it just me or does it seem like the Brewers have

played all their games at home?

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

N/M

i looked up the numbers. They’ve played 2 less at home than the Cubs.

It just seems like more.

The weather at Wrigley Field may change in an instant, but Aramis Ramirez is always steady in the clutch. - Associated Press (7/11/08)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 11, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT: MLB.TV

MLB.COM was offering free MLB.TV to anyone who voted in the final vote. Did anyone do that? I did, but when I tried to redeem it, it told me that my redemption code had already been used.

I’m wondering if anyone else has encountered this. It’s so MLB.COM…..

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 11, 2008 7:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i shelled out the 129.95...

two years in a row…we get NOTHING for cubs games unless we are playing the dirty birds or houston…

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 11, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where do you live?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 11, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I voted too...

I’ll go check it now..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha..

same thing happened to me….why am I not surprised?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same thing happened to me

but I am now watching Gallagher pitch for the A’s, so that little message meant nothing to me.

He’s pitching a good game too BTW

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 11, 2008 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLBTV free trial?

I voted the max in the original voting and 20 or so times in the last man ballot, but I unchecked the two boxes on all the votes regarding getting emails and such. Either that, or the school email address has a strong spam filter.

Is it an offer that can be passed around like a cup full of dollers? I’d love to check it out this week.

Thanks.

HAPPY 100th ANNIVERSARY, CUBS FANS!!!!

by section229beer on Jul 11, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's a one-week trial (actually 4 days) July 11-18

I received the e-mail this morning (I voted on Wed.). The e-mail had a “click here to redeem” link. I clicked it, and it said that my redemption code had already been used.

I would guess that you should have gotten it by now. (I unclicked their “would you like our spam” check boxes and still got it.)

I don’t think I can share it with you since I can’t even share it with myself. I’m on hold with MLB tech support right now. After my GDA problems, I’m an expert at such things…

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 11, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just got off the phone with Tech Support

She told me to ignore the redemption code, add the NextDef plug-in, and go for it…

I’m up and running, though it’s extremely show right now. (I’m not sure whether their servers are overloaded, or Comcast has lowered my priority.)

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 11, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks a lot DeRo...

It’s working for me now. They blacked me out of the Brewers game, but I’m getting to see Gallagher pitch for the A’s though.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright ya'll.

I’m going home. Time to get ready for tomorrow. See ya’ll here soon.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

God,

I just watched Rami’s HR from today again on replay. I couldn’t go before I said this, I got goose bumps watching him hit that. He murdered that pitch! Ramirez is such a great hitter.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

God knows...

He was watching too!

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 11, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, he was.

If the Cubs win the World Series this year, it will be a spiritual event. It will change people’s lives. Every member of the team from the President to the batboys will become instant legends.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 11, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i will...

take a couiple weeks off work when we do…altough i dont drink anymore, what shall i do?

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 11, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

mr alvin dark

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 11, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

However...

... Eric Karros said virtually the same thing (except about all day games) when he was here.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 12, 2008 4:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW, the Suds had just scored 4 in the 6th

to take the lead 5-2. CC must be asking, “what did I get myself into?” I better throw complete games with this bullpen!!

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 11, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got to see the

first 6 innings at a relatives and then listened to the last innings on the radio. Lived and died with Ron’s “oh jeeze” and “why’d he do that” comments. Couldn’t help but chuckle hearing him. Have the game recorded but haven’t had the chance to see Aramis’s homerun yet but I will before I go to sleep tonight (which will be soon).

Aramis is the man. Not much else you can say. Have to give Marquis a thumbs up today too. Very nice job Jason.

Let’s hope Cubbie blue is a good color for Rich tomorrow and he pitches a great game.

by sue369 on Jul 11, 2008 9:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Missed you today!

Nice game thread…no trolls.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true dat!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

im new to posting.

whats a troll? it sounds like someone i dont wanna be, lol

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 11, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Troll...Per Wikipedia..

An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response1 or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.

We get them here sometimes during games when the Cubs are losing.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok thanks

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 11, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go Reds..

In Dusty we trusty….lol…
j/k

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 11, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they are still up 6-5

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 11, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Final

Cards move back into the wild card lead

by ChipSet on Jul 11, 2008 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good

let ‘em tire each-other out.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soriano

Trib is reporting that Soriano might not be back till the Florida Series (7/24). He is still not taking full swings.

If that is the case, it would be right around 6 weeks…

"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey

by TheRiot Police on Jul 11, 2008 9:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well...

i wouldnt wanna rush it if we dont have to

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 11, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe Lou said

in yesterday’s postgame, “the doctors said it would be about 6 weeks and they were right.”

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 12, 2008 5:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

JIMMY!

I just scored some tickets! Section 216, Row 14, seats 108-109! And WAY cheaper than Stub-hub, too!

YAY! We’re goin to the game!!!!

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 11, 2008 9:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs </