Overflow Thread 2: Cubs vs. Giants, Saturday 7/12, 12:05 CT
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FINISH THE JOB, CUBS!
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
PICTURE REQUEST
Harden walking off to the standing Ovation.
PLZ and TY!
My 08 Cubs record 7-0
Updated June 01
Maybe this will tide you over...
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
Great pics!!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Thank the AP and Getty, not me. haha
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
awesome
just like when he had green and gold on
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Jul 12, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it safe for me to take a nap?
I wouldn't dig in there if I was you... I don't know where it's gonna go.
I'd say so
------ TheRiot Squad ------
by RightFieldSucks on Jul 12, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
What a performance by Rich Harden folks!
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
keep watching...mlb.tv
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Jul 12, 2008 2:18 PM CDT reply actions
Kevin Hart
throwing
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
Unless...
something really bad happens, let him finish the game.
"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown
Good idea,
the extra step on D would help.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
it's so weird saying rich
and not following it up with hill…....only if he didnt have his meltdown :(
Hill
may be back yet.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a question for anyone who may know!
I’m not getting ahead of myself, just curious how this works:
Say Harden goes on to pitch spectacularly for the rest of the season, is he eligible for the Cy Young? Just curious if that’s possible for any pitcher changing leagues.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
Sure he could win it, not sure how the numbers transfer over. Hopefully tho Big Z will be able to win the award
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
yeah but thats because there are a number doing well, not just one
It’ll likely be Webb, Lincecum or Volquez if things continue at this rate
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by RightFieldSucks on Jul 12, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Clear Favorite = Tim Lincecum
As far as I’m concerned. He even has the W-L totals that the dinosaur voters tend to pay attention to.
Zambrano viciously attacked a pair of watercoolers for the crime of being within his line of vision. It was a classic battle of man versus inanimate object.
Volquez is pitching a pretty good year.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
I'm off...
to get some yard work done.
I feel comfortable that we can start running the flag up the pole!
See ya!
"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown
Butkus is theatrical!
I love it!
I wouldn't dig in there if I was you... I don't know where it's gonna go.
Wow...Butkus..
my ears hurt…
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Lets score another touchdown! I say save the touchdown for tomorrow
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
indeed
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
He didn't count in.
I wouldn't dig in there if I was you... I don't know where it's gonna go.
by jodydavisgal on Jul 12, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
What did he say at the end?
Lets score a touchdown?...lol…
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
"Another" touchdown
B/c we have 7. I guess technically he should have asked for another extra point as well.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
Rich Hill's final line in AZL today:
5 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 5 K, 8 GO-0 FO
by John Q Freejazz on Jul 12, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions
he is?
for sure?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Most likely, yes
I read on the the Tribune if Hill exceed in Rookie ball, he will be promoted to AAA.
that would rock!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Time for a promotion?
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
Wow!!!
Iowa next stop then here by August 1!!!!!
The poem fails when it strays too far from the song, and the song fails when it strays too far from the dance ~ Ezra Pound
by crazymountain on Jul 12, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe earlier than expected
Holy crap..imagine this rotation!
Big Z
Demps
Hill
Harden
Lily
the order they pitch
isn’t the order of their worth, it’s the order Lou wants.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Good god
My heart just skipped a beat
Zambrano viciously attacked a pair of watercoolers for the crime of being within his line of vision. It was a classic battle of man versus inanimate object.
Well, the chances are increasing that this rotation will come true
If Hill shuts down the AAA hitters, he will be back possibly around the first week of August..
Way to go Rich
Hope he can keep this up! If he can regain form, watch out for that rotation!
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
Wow, that BB total makes me smile
If we could get him back….
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
that's awsome..
How good will this team be if Rich comes back and contributes?
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
caught-sneaking power
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
If you guys click on the Cubs Gamecast on ESPN and then check the cubs hit box just
look at it, so sweet!
The Giants seem to have given up.
I wouldn't dig in there if I was you... I don't know where it's gonna go.
They should.....
The poem fails when it strays too far from the song, and the song fails when it strays too far from the dance ~ Ezra Pound
by crazymountain on Jul 12, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
OT - I'm sick of Miller Lite
so I bought some Pacifico. Really really good. Thoughts?
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
good beer..
I like it…I’m having some Point Special now…good everyday beer too.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
From Point, Wisconsin, right? Delish.
Every time I’ve ever had it on tap it has been flat. Much better in the bottle
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Good stuff
I have been on a Newcastle binge lately.
+1
for Newcastle….my fave is Guiness, but only on tap..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
We drink Newcastle also.......Good stuff!!!
The poem fails when it strays too far from the song, and the song fails when it strays too far from the dance ~ Ezra Pound
by crazymountain on Jul 12, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey crazymountain, the eagle has landed. : )
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
Do dat meen wat ah tink it meen?
The poem fails when it strays too far from the song, and the song fails when it strays too far from the dance ~ Ezra Pound
by crazymountain on Jul 12, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I tink it duz!
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
GREAT!!!!!!! Enjoy!!!
The poem fails when it strays too far from the song, and the song fails when it strays too far from the dance ~ Ezra Pound
by crazymountain on Jul 12, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Have some
chocolate with Newcastle. brings out the flavor like no other.
I had dinner @ Morton's about a week ago
and I followed Dan Bernstein’s (from The Score) suggestion and had a Scotch (Macallan)with my chocolate souffle. Unreal.
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Speaking of Guiness
I had 2 Irish Car Bombs last night…so tasty.
what is that?
Guiness and Jaeger?
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Half pint of Guiness
and you drop in a shot glass that has half Jamison and half Baileys Irish Cream. Drink ithe whole thing as a shot.
Hmmm..
Sounds good ..will try that tonight..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
I like Jameson..but on the side..
but i’ll try a car bomb once just to try it..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
I think you will
enjoy it. Its my favorite. Let me know what you think.
Will do!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
irish car bomb you mean
baileys and guiness!
by cubsonWGN4ever on Jul 12, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Newcastle's a darker, beer, right?
I think I’ve had it. Tasty.
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
3-for-4 for the ALL-STAR SNUB
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
Trib said today that Lilly
called the parents of the hurt kid and earlier L&B said he’s going to visit the kid in the hospital. Good man, Lilly.
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
indeed.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Very respectable of him.
"Memory believes before knowing remembers. Believes longer than recollects, longer than knowing even wonders."
-- William Faulkner
That's great..
Classy guy Lilly.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Doesn't surprise me
that he would do that. What injuries did the boy have? I saw the game the day it happened but didn’t hear what the injuries were.
There's a fan post about it.
I believe amongst other things a fractured skull. :(
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
concussion
he’s out of danger, but they are waiting to see whether or not he has neurological damage
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
he's from my hometown
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, baby!
I just scored $65 bleacher seats for tomorrow. IT WILL NOT RAIN!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
craigslist
is my friend.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
hopefully they'll be my friend w/
the pumpkins tickets I have up there.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
Pumpkins..
are going to be at a Casino boat?
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
shhh
“if everyone knows about it they’ll do it”
by cubsonWGN4ever on Jul 12, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Never ask questions ... about my "business." - Fat Tony
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
anyone know
how early I can get to the park?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
is this through stubhub?
I want to hit the bleachers before the season’s over
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
Craigslist.
I find they’re cheaper, and people are more willing to negotiate.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Any guarantees on Craigslist though?
...such as if the tickets turn out to be bogus or something. StubHub offers guarantees. And I think if the game is canceled (rained out, whatever), on StubHub you get a full refund, not just a refund of the face value.
well
I paid via Paypal on my credit card, so if I’m defrauded, I can get the money back. If the game’s rained out, I’ll get replacement tix. I don’t think the face value of these tickets are that low, $65 each is a pretty good price.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
no, I hear you.
it’s one reason I didn’t want to pay $150 for upper deck tix for today’s game.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
fwiw
I just printed too VERY OFFICIAL looking tickets from onsale.tickets.mlb.com, so I think these are pretty good.
It’s Aramis Ramirez shirt day! He’s my MAN CRUSH!!!!!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
and there's NO RAIN
in the forecast whatsoever. And I will not speak of it again. :D
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm waiting for someone to make a BCB sign..
So we can see it on tv…
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
I might be able to do that.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
lemme see
what I can do.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Awsome..
let us know and we’ll look for ya..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
indeed.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Dunno if anybody has posted this...
Sabathia debut: 5 IP, 2 earned runs, 5 hits, 5 walks, 5 K’s
Harden debut: 5.1 IP 0 earned runs, 5 hits, 3 walks, 10 ks
Brewers gave up their future… we gave up average players… who’s the winner in those trades?
one game, dude.
And the Brewers’ future isn’t necessarily given away … they get a ton of draft picks.
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
Their farm system is stacked
It’s up there along with the Rangers and Dodgers farm system.
Exactly.
They already have a few LaPortas, not a big deal for MIL.
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
Well, as of game one, we are, obviously.
But there’s a lot of baseball left. It will be interesting to see if that keeps up. However, given that Up 4 doesn’t lose stat…and the Cubs offense, this could be ridiculous.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
Don't forget
Brewers get 2.5 months of Sabathia
Cubs get 1.5 years with Harden
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
it's 7-1
they can be a little relaxed…
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Come on cubbies, shut this game down.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
Now that they scored I assume we must bring in Marmol
sarcasm
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
So, does anyone think Hendry signs CC this winter?
The poem fails when it strays too far from the song, and the song fails when it strays too far from the dance ~ Ezra Pound
After we win the WS? All the big FA will want to come play for us.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
rotation
Zambrano
Sabathia
Harden
Dempster
Lilly
by cubsonWGN4ever on Jul 12, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I suspect. . .
That a Sabathia signing would mean letting Dempster go as a FA
by Seattle Cubs Fan on Jul 12, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's possible.
We’ll likely have to outbid the Yanks though.
I’d laugh if that were to happen. It would be awesome.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
I say he's heaed for LA
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought
Hendry would really go after C.C. this winter before the Harden trade, but now if Harden remains healthy I think they pick up his option and I’m not sure they need to spend more on C.C. but then again we could let Demp walk for draft picks.
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 12, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
If Rich can come back to form
I think we’d have too many SP, signed for much, much less than what CC is going to sign for. Save that money and go out and get a Center fielder. Or, perhaps, sign CC and trade for a CF?
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
I really
think we should give Pie another chance before spending too much on a CF. Pie was starting to hit before he was sent down if he could cut down his strikeouts then he would be a great everyday option.
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 12, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree...Pie should play.
The poem fails when it strays too far from the song, and the song fails when it strays too far from the dance ~ Ezra Pound
by crazymountain on Jul 12, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I like Pie and want him to succeed
but I just don’t see Hendry going into another season relying on Pie for starting CF. Think they will get someone this winter.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
+1
Our CF for the future I hope.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
indeed.
he’s doing pretty well in AAA.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anybody
else agree we should let Howry walk this year for draft picks. We definitely need more youth in the minors if we want to catch up with other teams systems let alone keep up.
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 12, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
He always does well in AAA
it just hasn’t carried over to the majors yet.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
it can't
till he has another chance.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
He was
hitting over .300 over the last couple of weeks he was up here when he was sent down he was hitting well in the majors it’s just that every time he doesn’t get a hit he strikes out and Lou wants him to at least put the ball into play.
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 12, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't get me wrong, I like Pie and want him to get a chance.
He won’t get a chance to prove it this year with Johnson and Edmonds. And I just don’t see Hendry going into next year with Pie as the expected starting CF. Its not every year you get a chance to pick up Edmonds and Johnson type players a month into the season. We were very lucky to get those guys.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
I think
when rosters expand in Sept he’ll get the call up and Hendry should give him a few starts so he can possibly earn a chance for next year
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 12, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
The Bullpen is imploding!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 2:39 PM CDT reply actions
he should have left
Gaudin in, but whatever…
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Totally agreed.
I was really hoping that was the plan originally, but was obviously wrong.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
Cotts in
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
Bullpen
In a game like this, I’d rather see them give up hits than walk guys.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
+infinity
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Len just said...
“DeRosa on the move….he squeezes.”
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 2:43 PM CDT reply actions
I Lou channelling LaRussa?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 2:43 PM CDT reply actions
we type too much.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't you just buy a new one?
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
YAY!!!!!
Let’s get a few more runs!!!!!
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
Rollcall...who is left in the gamethread?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions
Kinda here
Doing laundry.
"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."
im here
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Jul 12, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm here
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Present.
"Memory believes before knowing remembers. Believes longer than recollects, longer than knowing even wonders."
-- William Faulkner
I like your Faulkner quote!
And, don’t forget, the South also had a bad century.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
by sweetswinger on Jul 12, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
TWSA
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
Asked.
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
Just too enthralled by the MLB.tv breaks........
The poem fails when it strays too far from the song, and the song fails when it strays too far from the dance ~ Ezra Pound
by crazymountain on Jul 12, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
holla
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
I'm here too..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Wood has
so many saves because we turn games like this that should be blowouts into save situations for him
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 12, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions
and that's what a closer is actually for....no?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
it 7-2
a save situation?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
didn't think so.
Woody’s not available today anyway; he threw too many pitches yesterday.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not yet
I’m just saying multiple times the bullpen has given up huge leads and it has required Wood and yes that’s what a closer is for but I would like to give his arm a little rest sometimes…you know to avoid the DL
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 12, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Tying run on deck
when the relief pitcher comes in. It became a save situation when it was 7-3 and 2 men on.
It has indeed happened, but I don't know how common it is.
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a byproduct of two things
a) Not great middle relief.
b) failure to take advantage of multiple inning middle relievers. There is no reason that Gaudin couldn’t have pitched another there. And I’m exhausted, so it’s escaping me, but there was a similary example in the past week.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
I agree entirely
what is the purpose of LONG relievers if Lou throws them for one inning and thats it
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 12, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
excellent
some room to screw up, but critical enough to get his adrenaline up.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I predict HBP for Aramis.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions
indeed.
Let’s wrap it up nicely for Harden’s first Cubbie win!
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
Just wait for the Red Sox or Yankee games to go final...they'll replace it.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
wow they took favre off
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Jul 12, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
following The Pack's lead
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
How much do you think a bullpen catcher makes?
To me, it seems to be the best job on the staff. Just wondering if you can survive as one.
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
You have to actually be able to catch Major League fastballs, sliders, curveballs, changeups, knucklers....
probably tougher than it looks, but if you can do it? Sweet, sweet gig.
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
Barrett couldn't do that...and he made a pretty good living at it.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
But he could hit ...
I’m guessing bullpen catchers can’t. : )
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
emphasis on "could"
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
And call pitches for people you don't work with that often.
I also just think catching is a brutal position physically, I have a lot of respect for catchers.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
I caught into college, but no one I've ever
played with ended up as one.
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't "Higgy" from BCB used to do that?
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
I WANT MY WHITE CASTLE!
Time for some FILTHY sliders…
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
I miss white castle
here in California
In n Out will have to comfort me
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Jul 12, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
it usually does, huh?
HA HA HA
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Not a good start
to the inning for White Castle
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 12, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions
How?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
with a man on 2nd?
it’s doable. Liner to Fonty.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
line shot to ss touch man leaning off second... :)
"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers
Moises Alou does not play for the Cubs anymore.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
there's one.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
Just mute the sound.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
funny...i kinda blame Marmol.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
This is wrong on more levels than I care to count.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
man.
he’s laboring.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
it's like he's scared
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
He's crowning! Push Push Push!!!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Almost time for Wood.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Santo says he's not in the bullpen.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
man.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
You can't throw that slider to a LH're and leave it over the plate.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Marmol really wants to help his buddy Kerry get save OPPs, huh.
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
Well,
now it’s a save situation.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
I swear Woody is bribing Howry and Marmol to get him extra saves.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously
can anybody figure out how Marmol goes from unhittable to please hit this hard
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 12, 2008 3:06 PM CDT reply actions
not hardly.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Does Marmol have a fastball anymore?
The poem fails when it strays too far from the song, and the song fails when it strays too far from the dance ~ Ezra Pound
Bob
says he’s scared of it.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
MAN...
four straight hits???
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
Why is it never easy?
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by RightFieldSucks on Jul 12, 2008 3:06 PM CDT reply actions
There's no F'n good reason why Marmol should be pitching right now
I have no idea why Lou keeps throwing Marmol out there when we have leads of 4 and 5 runs.
This is the worst offense in the NL for crying out loud!
We’ll need him in October!
he hasn't pitched in three days
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by RightFieldSucks on Jul 12, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
yesterday what?
Marmol didn’t pitch yesterday. Woody and Howry pitched yesterday.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
is it not obvious to you at this point
that something’s wrong with him? He needs to work it out. You prefer he comes into a 2-1 game and pitch like this?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd prefer he not come in
It’s obvious no leasd is safe enough to be experimenting with him
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
how does he get better, then?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
well it could be because
he’s started to NOT be unhittable – so he wants to put him in safe situations to “figure it out”
by cubsonWGN4ever on Jul 12, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
PArticularly since
It is especially stupid because if we didn’t use him tomorrow he’d have a week plus off.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Jul 12, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Marshall up
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
We are the Brewers?
The poem fails when it strays too far from the song, and the song fails when it strays too far from the dance ~ Ezra Pound
Time to send him to Iowa
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
We don't want him...
... but damn if he needs to figure his stuff out.
Help me Obi-ONEDEC. You're our only hope.
The booing has begun.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 3:08 PM CDT reply actions
Not to Iowa
Lou loves Marmol too much to demote him and let him solve his issues
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 12, 2008 3:08 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah crazy love that
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
walked him.
bases loaded.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
He's reverting to the old Marmol
the one who walked the ballpark when he came up the first time.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
That's a little rough.
"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."
+1
But he needs to get his act together
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
No argument here.
"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."
I don't get to watch as much cubbie baseball
But whenever I watch him, he’s part of a meltdown
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Jul 12, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
are you serious?
everyone’s entitled to a few bad outings right?
Help me Obi-ONEDEC. You're our only hope.
oh, please.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey jerkoff
I happen to be at work listening to the game so not all of us can chime in when we want.
As a guy who listens to the cubs when they play the giants (because I live on the west coast) and watches all the games on ESPN when they are on, all I see from Marmol is a Meltdown waitng to happen.
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Jul 12, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
And Marmol cost Harden a win
Who you callin’ an ass?
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Jul 12, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Actuallty he had started to pick it up again and now he’s having a crapfest.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Jul 12, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Why is he there?
This dude killed us in San Fran. :(
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
He has completely lost it over the last month....
The poem fails when it strays too far from the song, and the song fails when it strays too far from the dance ~ Ezra Pound
Absolutely.
Gaudin will/can be used in the interim
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Tomorrow
Don’t use him tomorrow he’s off for 6 days even without a game.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Jul 12, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Riot should NOT
have thrown that ball.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
I think he should have
the runner did a really nice job of pretty much taking him out. I wanted to say it was dirty but it looked like his foot still was touching the bag.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
The runner got his hands WAY
over into the Riot. Great job on his part.
+1
I stand behind my Marmol comment
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Jul 12, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Pick off the runner to end the game.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 3:11 PM CDT reply actions
HBP
blister problem? Bob and Len are talking about a blister problem that Marmol has?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
Please tell me we're pulling Marmol for the last out.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
LOL
this is no time to laugh but I couldn’t help myself with that comment
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 12, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
i've been observing the boards and gameday
cuz i was playing monopoly, lol – harden seems to have been GREAT, but wow…marmol is a WRECK
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
WTF HAPPENED TO HIM!?! DONT LET ROTHSCHILD TOUCH HIM!
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
Who's the staff psychiatrist?
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
there is no reason to go through this.... why not pull him
you have 13 pitchers!!!!
"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers
He can't be hurt
"I see myself as an intelligent, sensitive human, with the soul of a clown which forces me to blow it at the most important moments."
-- Jim Morrison
when the trainer comes out
yes, we make that assumption
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
alright
here’s your chance, Carlos. Get it together.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
+ a million
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
argh...
HE’S NOT OVERUSED. He pitched three days ago!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Is Lou
on drugs or something?
"I lof to hit de home ron!"
Yep that man crush again.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
THERIOT!!!!!
YOU IDIOT!!!!!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
The first one was not his fault
nice play by the runner to take him out. The second yes very much his fault
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
No reason not to pull him
unless no one else is ready. Lou should’ve had someone warming up after the 1st hit off Marmol. This is ridiculous.
why stupid Lou?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh, for those of us on gameday, how did they just get two runs on a ball hit to the shortstop?
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
straight up?
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
Awesome.
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
Actually it says 7-6, is it not tied?
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
Theriot did a good job to get it to
but instead of getting into a position to throw, just heaved it up there over the 2b’s head
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
well, he was on his back.
there was no play. He shoudl have held onto the ball.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Why the hell was Marmol still in?
"I see myself as an intelligent, sensitive human, with the soul of a clown which forces me to blow it at the most important moments."
-- Jim Morrison
Marshall's not ready
?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Very non-allstar like.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 3:15 PM CDT reply actions
No reason to throw that
and NO REASON for Marmol to be in the game. Lou and Theriot dumbasses
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
holy crap
ok please…can somebody slow down and tell me what is going on gameday just imploded??!
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
thanks i GOT THAT
what did riot do that was so idiotic?
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
threw a ball from his back
10 feet over the 2B
by cubsonWGN4ever on Jul 12, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
What the hell happened for those of us at home?!?!
How does Marmol get this leeway but Lilly gets pulled in the 3rd or 4th inning against the Reds?!
Are you shittin me????
The poem fails when it strays too far from the song, and the song fails when it strays too far from the dance ~ Ezra Pound
This is
not how you win championships. Very poor management of the pitching staff, imo.
"I lof to hit de home ron!"
And you
wish to defend Lou’s use of the pitching staff?
"I lof to hit de home ron!"
I do.
this is precisely the situation you put a struggling stopper into.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
You don't leave him there to give the game away.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
I dont mind putting him in,
but you take him out when he doesn’t have it.
I agree
but no one was ready.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
You also make sure you have a back up warmed up
in case he melts down.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
that blows
his confidence.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
But he’s struggled in this situation the last few times he’s been in it. It’ll be the last for a while. Hendry pulled the trigger on Wuertz; don’t be surprised if he does the same for Marmol
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
as a theriot defender...
that was just unbelievably boneheaded. should’ve eaten that one.
Wow.
Just wow. :( WHY MARMOL HERE?! WHY? WHY? WHY IS HE STILL IN
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
Little league shit here
The poem fails when it strays too far from the song, and the song fails when it strays too far from the dance ~ Ezra Pound
like your new tag
I’m a big Pound fan—his poetry, anyway. The inverse of what I’m feeling for Marmol right now.
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
ground ball to theriot
diving stop. threw from his back to second. threw it into right field.
Unfucking believable!!!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
That stinks for Harden
Threw a heck of a game today and gets screwed over by Marmol
Incredibly DUMB to leave this guy in....he was clearly falling apart!!!!
This is on Lou and Marmol and Theriot….horrrrrrrrible!!!!
FUCK YOU LOU!!! GET MARMOL OUT!!!!
"That’s what I love about my skip, man. He’ll tell you that you suck...I know I suck. We know we suck...Yeah, we suck. But we’ll see who sucks at the end."
- Gary Sheffield
Who is up in the bottom of the 9th?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 3:17 PM CDT reply actions
The Cubs
Had to try to lighten it up – Sorry, SWL
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
cant blame em
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by RightFieldSucks on Jul 12, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Well deserved.
Holy Crap I’m so mad right now! :(
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
IF we pull this out in the 9th
Marmol gets a W?
The poem fails when it strays too far from the song, and the song fails when it strays too far from the dance ~ Ezra Pound
funny game, huh?
------ TheRiot Squad ------
by RightFieldSucks on Jul 12, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
better fucking not
pardon my french
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Jul 12, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
36 pitches
5 hits, 5 runs, no strikeouts. Lou, take the hint.
"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown
damn't
hopefully this doesn’t go in to extras
"I see myself as an intelligent, sensitive human, with the soul of a clown which forces me to blow it at the most important moments."
-- Jim Morrison
there was no reason for this, what was Lou thinking?
"My favorite umpire is a dead one."
-Johnny Evers
This just totally ruined my Saturday...
... let’s get some runs!
Help me Obi-ONEDEC. You're our only hope.
Howry should have pitched the 9th
I said it when Marmol went in. Let Marmol clear his head over the all star break. Lou blew this game.
I should have pitched the 9th
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I haven't heard these kind of boo's since that oine Zambrano game.
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
Haven't heard any like that since '06.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Because
Remember everyone no winning team has ever had a crapcrap game.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Jul 12, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
If we could blame this on the team as a whole, we would.
In this case, however, it’s largely Marmol’s baby, and to a lesser degree, Theriot’s
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Iowa time for Marmol
he has sucked for a month now
The poem fails when it strays too far from the song, and the song fails when it strays too far from the dance ~ Ezra Pound
Really
This double standard he has for Marmol is sickening me. Look at what ghe did to Hill, wuertz, and Hart. And he leaves Marmol in there???? [Speechless]
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Now it's time
for Lil Ruth to come through with a walk-off
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 12, 2008 3:19 PM CDT reply actions
you must be joking.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Lou gave this away
He just plain gave it away to the worst team in baseball with his stupid stubborness to try and get Marmol back on track.
I smell walkoff...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 3:19 PM CDT reply actions
Hope all that booing sinks deep into Marmol's head and wakes him up!
Maybe he should have been sent down to Iowa! I am just shocked at how he has totally lost it!!!!
Or is Pattersons him and he'll never be the same.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you think he doesn't know
he’s been awful? He doesn’t need booing to tell him that. If he could turn a switch on and fix it he would. None of us know what it’s like to be in that situation.
So I'm guessing
we’ll see Dwaryle lead off
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 12, 2008 3:20 PM CDT reply actions
Lou is hurting Marmol
by basically exploiting him. Doesn’t help anyone else’s psyche in the bullpen either when they don’t get a chance in a crucial situation. That is if you think there’s a mental part to this game….
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
Honest question:
what happened to the best set-up man in baseball?
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
Combination of overuse, lost confidence in his fastball, and Lou not taking him out of the game
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
disagree
Marmol is not overused.
He has lost confidence in his fastball.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
honestly
I think he has just lost it. and i’ll be the first to say it – i dont think its coming back. and that sucks, cuz i love marmol, but i think its gone
"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto
I'm gone for 20 min. tops...
And come back to this? Let’s pick it up, Cubs!
"Memory believes before knowing remembers. Believes longer than recollects, longer than knowing even wonders."
-- William Faulkner
Who's excusing them?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Another overreaction from someone hopin for a loss.
Remember guys no winning teams ever have a bad game.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Jul 12, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
almost.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not that we want them to lose...
but some of the situations are mind-boggling.
"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown
Not at all
but that was seriously disheartening.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
Not doubting it
It was dishearterning don’t get me wrong but saying this is a bad team because they had a bad game is stupid.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Jul 12, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I never want to hear about any freaking intanagilbes that Theriot brings again...
...he is a terrible defensive SS, period end of disucssion.
That was beyond stupid, I have never seen such a boneheaded move in my life
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You're right
Youre right good players never make mistakes.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Jul 12, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
when ranking Theriot's mistakes
that’s got to be one of teh biggest.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually
To the older baseball fan who thinks getting on base is important Theriot is a decent player. Nothing to write home about but a decent player.
But to many fans if you don’t hit homeruns you’re worthless.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Jul 12, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I See A Guy
who is good offensively but his defensive shortcomings tend to show up at the worst times.
Eat More Katsui
I can forgive a mental mistake from time to time, his problem is he doesnt have the athletic skill
..to play the position defensively…and all the heart and scrappiness in the world cant cover for that
+1
He’s the third best SS on the team…
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Ok. Seriously.
Stop. People are allowed to vent frustration. Yes, good teams have good games, good player make dumb plays, but that doesn’t mean we have to enjoy. Nobody is crying the sky is falling here. Being pissed about this game doesn’t translate to wanting the Cubs to lose. It’s called being frustrated with a poor performance.
i thought
chad gaudin was a long reliever….he should have been in more than 2 outs
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Jul 12, 2008 3:22 PM CDT reply actions
probably didn't think they'd need him
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by RightFieldSucks on Jul 12, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't stand when Len talks like a friggin downer. It's so annoying.
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
Notice how quiet Bob was?
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
He's a ML pitcher who has succeeded
I’m not going to hang it on Lou.
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Well now I have to leave.
I was hoping to post the singing flag, but I hope I will get to do so when I return. : )
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
i can't believe this
we need to shut down marmol and put him on the 15 day DL
Wish Lou would put Ronny in for late inning D, if nothing else..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
The Giants have been wearing out the outside corner...
can we please sit on that part of the plate and MAKE THEM PAY?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 3:23 PM CDT reply actions
Even if we win
this is a wasted game. Nice job Lou. You play to win EVERY game. He was trying to get out of using Wood and now we’re headed to extra innings.
his overuse of marmol has finally caught up
time to not use him for a month or 2 howry can carry the load
by WUSTLCubsFan on Jul 12, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
It was his mismanagement before that...
Gaudin or Howry could have been left in the game.
"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown
Strange since that is what he ALWAYS did bringing in Marmol
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Woody
is not available today. He threw over 20 pitches. He was not in the bullpen.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 12, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Baxter, you know I don't speak Spanish.
In English, please
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
excuse me, I speak jive...
little babe ruth for the win, I believe…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Wow. Nice to find your abbreviation soulmate, huh?
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Come on, Fonty!
"Memory believes before knowing remembers. Believes longer than recollects, longer than knowing even wonders."
-- William Faulkner
'Pen
If this goes extras, are Woody and Lieber really the only two pitchers left in the pen? I guess some of the starters due to throw Mon / Tues / Weds could throw, with the break, right?
Proudly waving the Cubbie Blue from Northern Missouri! GO CUBS GO!
and Marshall
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by RightFieldSucks on Jul 12, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Hitters count
"I see myself as an intelligent, sensitive human, with the soul of a clown which forces me to blow it at the most important moments."
-- Jim Morrison
Sneaky Walk.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 12, 2008 3:26 PM CDT reply actions
Calm down everyone
This is getting beyond ridiculous. Calling Lou a crappy manager because he managed a bad game saying the team is not a winning team for playing a bad game.
And Theriot (of course I remember how the homerun lovers don’t value OBP) of course is the worst player in the history of the game.
Go Cubs
But why did Lou use so many pitchers....
in a game that was well in hand? Five in the first eight innings.
"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown
This is my concern with not using Gaudin correctly.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
Every other pitcher was
in there for a short amount of time. But for whatever reason, Marmol had an extra long leash.
lou isnt a crappy manager
but he SERIOUSLY needs to rethink his bullpen use. using 5 different relievers a game is recipe for landing 1 that is having an off day and messing it up. let gaudin pitch 2 innings or hell….EVEN THREE!!
by WUSTLCubsFan on Jul 12, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
well i partially agree
but theriot has the worst range for shortstops in baseball i think he is so over rated.
Not the worst player in the history of the game..
No one is saying that. He is however, the worst SS on the team.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Al hates when Marmol comes in during garbage time
This won’t make him any happier
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
Fuentes is garbage
He is on and off like Marmol. If you don’t believe me, look at his stats.
It's funny that this is happening now
Well not really…poor Harden. He really deserved todays win.
Maybe this is just me
But one of the reasons I’m so mad about using today as a Marmol head day (and I’ve advocated those in the past frequently) is that I feel like it’s really disrespectful to the awesome outing you just got from your new guy.
Does that make any sense?
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
I can see that angle.
It should have been harden’s day. I bet lou is second guessing the decision now. But that doesnt make him a bad manager
here we go.
extras.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
The reason people are pissed
is this is the kind of game that can start a slide. Lou needs to look at the way he uses his bullpen. It’s just not smart the way he uses guys for .2 innings when they are LONG relievers/.
There is probably only one complaint I have about Lou
and it’s bullpen use. I don’t get it. It reminds me of the bullpen collapse game 1 against AZ last year in the NLDS, that killed me too.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
Now that is unquestionably silly
That is so silly I almost fell off my chair.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Jul 12, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
At least Marmol won't get a "W" now..
j/k
"That’s what I love about my skip, man. He’ll tell you that you suck...I know I suck. We know we suck...Yeah, we suck. But we’ll see who sucks at the end."
- Gary Sheffield
I'm just as concerned as everyone else
but let’s stay somewhat level-headed. The game isn’t over and we aren’t losing.
Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.
I still can't believe that a lame ass offense like SF pulled that rally off....
and Lou just sat and let it crumble in front of him…I’m guessing Marmol is not going to get any more votes of confidence from Pinella….and now we have a hole in the pen to fill…oh well…still in first place…..what inning will this be over in?????
I get all pissed off
then I look over to see my 3-year-old baby girl sleeping on the couch, and I’m calmed.
Thank God this isn’t Game 7 of the W.S., or it would matter
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
Christ, anyone remember there's still a game going on?
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by RightFieldSucks on Jul 12, 2008 3:30 PM CDT reply actions
I am relying
I am relying on yahoo and following comments and I thought I had missed something and we were losing.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Jul 12, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Please stop that
damn repeating yourself. You did so well for a few weeks and now you are back doing it again.
This game was well in hand
it deflates the winning team and ignites the other team. This game will result in a loss.
flair for the melodrama, huh?
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by RightFieldSucks on Jul 12, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
where do you people come from?
It’s amazing how the negative nellies magically appear when the Cubs are flailing. Like gnats. Sheesh.
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
I think I love you
I have yet to disagree with anything you’ve said
CRAFTY BEAVER!!!
by lostinthevines on Jul 12, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Lou Must Know
that St Louis and Milwaukee are going to lose today, the way he just left Marmol out there to hang himself.
Eat More Katsui
It's called complete and utter disbelief
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
OVERFLOWVERTHROW
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
I'm gone....I can't watch this crap anymore....
Mis-managed, Marmol should have been long gone…..Marmol needs to go to Iowa to find a fastball and home plate.
The poem fails when it strays too far from the song, and the song fails when it strays too far from the dance ~ Ezra Pound
Castillo K's
2 out
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by RightFieldSucks on Jul 12, 2008 3:32 PM CDT reply actions
hahah
ray durham got turned bad on that one
OVERFLOW
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
nice job by Marshall
time to get some MoJo back into the Cubs dugout!!
all you BCBers come in off the ledge!
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
Who do we have left in the pen?
Just Leiber and Wood?
I assume Lou doesn’t want to use Wood or he would have brought him in for the save earlier?
I think hes just trying to get all the guys some work
because you cant leave the relievers without work from now until the end of the allstar break
"God will squeeze really hard, but he will never choke you" - Carlos Zambrano
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 12, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
I was out watching the game and left in the 7th and just came home to see this! What the hell, it looks like Marmol got rocked and Theriot made a bad error huh? Piniella should have left Harden in too. Garrrr
"God will squeeze really hard, but he will never choke you" - Carlos Zambrano
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 12, 2008 3:43 PM CDT reply actions
I like the current Harden strategy.
Let him get his win, build up a comfortable lead and take him out.
wow marmol u need so help fast
did it look like to you guys he threw way more sliders than fastballs. come on if you have a fastball at 94-96 use it, u don’t need to use the slider for everything. Its just frustrating, although he is a cub i’m glad the fans booed him badly. it might be a wakeup call
o btw i forgot to mention that lou pinella might be a good manager at some things but
he doesn’t know how to handle the bullpen. SEVEN run lead and you use everybody except your closer and your long reliever. That’s just stupid. There’s a reason why u have chad gaudin and there’s no excuse for using him for 2/3 of an inning. I woulda put him out there for the next inning. Lou is just stupid when it comes to pitchers, and neil cotts a third of an inning just not smart whatsoever.
2 on, no one out
for Pete’s sake, win this thing!
Hey, let's focus...
winning run on 2nd, no outs!
"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown
Damn!
One out – c’mon Reed! Take one for the team!
How did it happen
I missed it
A good day for me is a cubs win and a sox loss.
Play it!!!!
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"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown
Santo is so fun to listen to....
..... this game and so many others, he leaves nothing on the table. The lows of the ninth and the joyful giggling of the 11th. He’s what it is all about.
Santo Forever!
Concerned
As nice as it has to see them pull out a win after that horrible 9th, I’m pretty concerned right now about the pen. Marmol in his current state is unusable not only in close games, but in any game (as his performance with a 7-2 lead today demonstrated). And Wood seems unavailable – a blister situation – and let’s hope it’s not more than that. So the two relievers who proved most valuable the first three months of the season are question marks. I’m not panicking – I’m assuming Wood is OK and Marmol we already knew was having troubles. And we do have Gaudin. Marshall looked great today in relief. But still, I’m concerned.
"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979
WTF???
I checked the score earlier, saw 7-0, and was happy. And I come to find out that Marmol gives up 5 and they have to win in extra innings?
Seriously, what the hell is wrong with Marmol? This wasn’t even walks that killed him. He needs to figure it out, cause I sure as hell don’t trust Bob Howry as our second best reliever. You need good relief to do well in the playoffs.
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by nervousCUBlover on Jul 12, 2008 4:25 PM CDT reply actions
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