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Open Thread: 2008 Home Run Derby, 7:00 CT

Have at it. If for any reason this thread needs an overflow -- and if it does, you guys are REALLY chatty! -- someone please start it in the FanPost section.

MLB.com HR Derby information

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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First!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 14, 2008 5:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh, so sorry SWL

though that picture is hilarious.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Refresh...

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was weird

my bad, when I posted, it was empty then yours posted a second later. When I left and came back in here, you were first. So, never mind.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

well the jerk store called and they are running out of you...

ha

I'm a reader not a poster, but I'm also a poster so don't get any ideas.

by cozmotaylor123 on Jul 14, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Let's go Cubs!

I mean, oops…

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 5:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Hamilton or Utley

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 5:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I am so glad...

that no Cubs are in the HR derby. I don’t want anything to have an affect on the team in the second half. You know, like screw up their swing trying to win a silly contest that really only means more money for Bud Selig.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 14, 2008 5:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Actually I wouldn't mind a bit

if any of the other NL guys swings were messed up by swinging for the fences in a silly competition. I want the NL to win, but we won’t have to depend on Berkman, Braun, Uggla or Utley. Plenty of other guys on the team to help win it for the NL.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 14, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

+A Lot

This is the year we finally beat the AL, thus ensuring homefield in the series! We need all the help we can get!!!

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 14, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

It doesn't screw up their swings

that was A-Rod’s excuse for not wanting to lose.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree...

I have seen the results over the years since Selig brought back this fun, yet meaningless competition. More times than not, batters adjust their swing to hit BP fastballs out of the yard. Once you do something like this, you have to consciously change your swing, then change it back. You can have your opinion, but I’ve seen the results.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 14, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

great article on espn.com (Olney I believe)

refuting the common misconception that the HR derby screws up its participants swings. Don’t have the link, but look it up. Interesting.

I am pulling for Utley, the lefty and the short porch. Pun intended.

by gocubsgo22 on Jul 14, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

examples?

besides Abreu, who’s not a HR hitter.

Last year’s HR derby champ: Guerrero. Pre-derby – 14 HR, .325 AVG. Post-derby – 13 HR, .323 AVG
2006 HR Derby champ: Howard. Pre-derby – 28 HR, .278 AVG. Post-derby – 30 HR, .355 AVG

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I may have an opinion

but I have facts to back it up. What are the results you’ve seen please, since your’s isn’t based on opinion.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since you have facts to back up your assertion.

You are right, I am wrong. However, it stands to reason, when you are trying to hit home runs, that a batter would change his swing, and try to hit it harder. I stand by my assertion. You stand by your facts, I’ll stand by my opinion. I’m still glad that no Cubs are in it. I don’t want anything to mess with this season.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 14, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, sometimes I let my debate team/model U.N. side come out

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's cool DT.

This site wouldn’t be any fun if we all agreed.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 14, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's some more "opinion"

David Wright: pre-Derby: 16 HR’s, .292 AVG. post-Derby: 14 HR’s, .364 AVG.

Alex Riox: pre-Derby: 17 HR’s, .294 AVG. post-Derby: 7 HR’s, .300 AVG.

Matt Holliday: pre-Derby: 15 HR’s, .341 AVG. post-Derby: 21 HR’s, .338 AVG.

Albert Pujols: pre-Derby: 16 HR’s, .310 AVG., post-Derby: 16 HR’s, .349 AVG.

Prince Fielder: pre-Derby: 21 HR’s, .293 AVG., post-Derby: 29 HR’s, .284 AVG.

Justin Morneau: pre-Derby: 24 HR’s, .295 AVG., post-Derby: 7 HR’s, .243 AVG.

The only player with a significant drop is Morneau, everyone stayed on average or got better after the all-star break. Rios dropped in power, but I think his 17 HR’s before the break was more out of line with is norms than his 7 HR’s after.

Sorry to keep at this, but I just hate when someone disagrees with me and says that its my opinions vs. their facts.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

2008 MLB All-Star Game Home Run Derby

Participants

American League
3B Evan Longoria (RH)—Tampa Bay
1B/DH Justin Morneau (LH) – Minnesota
OF Josh Hamilton (LH) – Texas
OF Grady Sizemore (LH) – Cleveland

National League
1B Lance Berkman (SH) – Houston (will probably bat RH)
OF Ryan Braun (RH) – Milwaukee
2B Dan Uggla (RH) – Florida
2B Chase Utley (LH) – Philadelphia

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 5:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Berkman will probably bat

lefthanded with the short porch out there in right, don’t you think?

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 14, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I kinda thought he would, but he does seem to have more power RH and will bat that way according to what I read. Maybe he'll change his mind.

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

He did win the home run derby

in Huston batting right handed.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 14, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice.

It must be weird to be the dude who’s goal it is to give up homers…

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 14, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not just one guy...

most of the contestants have their own person BP guy.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 14, 2008 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

One of the players is using his agent...

Forgot which one…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 14, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Braun

the Brewer

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 14, 2008 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Z isnt participating

IM NOT WATCHING!!!

:D

My 08 Cubs record 7-0
Updated June 01

by Rudey on Jul 14, 2008 6:10 PM CDT reply actions  

lol

But was he All-MAC?

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 14, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want to see Hamilton win

To continue his fairytale… it would have been cool if Ankiel was in it as well

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 14, 2008 6:30 PM CDT reply actions  

How can you not pull for him?

Hearing the story about his 71-year old American Legion coach being his pitcher tonight is just awesome.

Especially when another participant picked that most important person in his life…his agent.

by jbau on Jul 14, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I seriously can't stand listening to Eric Young more than 10 seconds...

...and Chris Berman. Ugh. Lord, beer me strength. Doesn’t Joe Morgan do this event, too?

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 6:41 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mute the TV

and listen on the radio (ESPN 1000)

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Jul 14, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone Have Sound File / MP3 of....

on WGN Radio Sunday (yesterday) before the game, they had like a 4-5 minute “montage” of the radio team calling highlights of wins, homers, exciting highlights of the cubs first half – anyone have an audio clip of this?? love to have it…. thanks

by nervousCUBlover on Jul 14, 2008 6:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Ask Northsider if he comes here tonight...

He’s pretty good at finding those..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 14, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do we really need an hour pregame show for freaking HRD?

I wish Eric Young would stop talking.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 6:51 PM CDT reply actions  

why bother?

I’m on the NewsHour

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 14, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know where all these guys are headed tonight don't you?

Souvenir Sittay!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 14, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

One. BACK BACK BACK BACK BACK BACK BACK BACK BACK........

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does Steve Phillps

get his hair trimmed every day

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 14, 2008 6:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes...by albino Lebanese maidens.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 14, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's hot..:)

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 14, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who's the band?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 14, 2008 7:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Because nothing says "baseball" better than....

...a band performing at 2nd base before the festivities.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 7:02 PM CDT reply actions  

That's Bud Selig for you...

I’m surprised he doesn’t ask them to shag balls in the outfield.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 14, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

IN A WORLD .... WHERE WE WERE ALL STUCK WITH ... CHRISSSSS ... BERMANNNN ...

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Horror....the horror....

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is doing the announcing over the PA???

I feel sorry for the guys at the stadium… they shouldn’t have to deal with thsi.

by GoCubbies34 on Jul 14, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

When Utley hits one, $10 says Berman yells UH-OH UTLEY!!!!

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 7:07 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm cheering for Longoria....

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm rooting for Morneau

Photobucket

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 14, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pulling for Braun

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 14, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll refrain...

as one from Chicago who knows her history

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 14, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I admire your restraint

cuz it’s too easy…

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 14, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

We get the great Rick Reily Yeah…

by Reed's Johnson on Jul 14, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Utley

did anyone else notice when they announced Utley he got booed….then Utley says, “boo? f* you.”

by FloridaCubsFan on Jul 14, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh, at least Erin's there....

....in a white shirt…..nice.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 7:16 PM CDT reply actions  

+ Infinity...

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 14, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

NY needs a sudden downpour

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

FIRST!!

Go Cubs!

Damn, missed it by >>>>> <<<<<< much.

Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.

by Jayo525 on Jul 14, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Since the ASG is played in an American League Park

Does that mean they play by AL rules?? ie….DH? or is that the way it is in alll ASGs?

geo4mvpgeo4roygeo4everything

by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got to go to the 2000 ASG and Homerun derby

it was nice not to hear Bermans worn out schtick…

by LT on Jul 14, 2008 7:20 PM CDT reply actions  

TWSS

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

How do u post a picture

by Reed's Johnson on Jul 14, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Use the picture icon (the tree)

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

i get blue question marks (mac)?

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on Jul 14, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup, I get the same

much more aesthetically pleasing

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is my first HRD

do they throw meat balls on purpose?

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 14, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes

They also choose their pitcher.

Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.

by Jayo525 on Jul 14, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

uggla!

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on Jul 14, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions  

My first HRD too....

how does this work exactly? 10 outs?

geo4mvpgeo4roygeo4everything

by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 7:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Yup

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks!!!

geo4mvpgeo4roygeo4everything

by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oneri Fleita on Sports Central

Top Prospect in the System: SP Jeff “Alphabet Shark” Samardzija
Second Mention: 3B Josh Vitters
Asked about Donald Veal: “Randy Johnson was one of those guys, left-handed hard-throwers just take longer than others. Veal shows flashes of brilliance at times, and signs that he’s still developing. Time will tell.”
Sean Gallagher: “A lot of us didn’t know where he’d end up. Right out of HS he could pitch in the Midwest League, that’s a good sign. His best days are ahead of him, no telling where he’ll end up. Tough decisions to make, but when you’re trying to win a World Series those are the decisions you have to make. Sometimes they help us, or they help us acquire guys like Rich Harden.”

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 7:27 PM CDT reply actions  

If Samardzja is our top prospect, we have one weak system...

I thought Vitters was ranked higher than anyone.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 14, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

He said Shark as in "how close he is" compared to others. Oookay. I wish Josh77 were here.

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, my bad...

That makes sense…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 14, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just wonder how close Shark really is. If his record after each promotion means anything, maybe he should take Marquis' spot now. : )

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

back back back back back

how original

Perception is 9/10ths of the law. - Steve Young, NFL legend and multiple concussion recipient.

by Griff5479 on Jul 14, 2008 7:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Better get used to it...

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I prefer the guys on ESPN Deportes

NO NO NO NO No NO NO NO!!!

Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.

by Jayo525 on Jul 14, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fleita says they wanted Geo to hit it to RF, and last year Von Joshua told him, "Look, you have power to hit it to left, go ahead and try pulling it."

“And now here we are.”

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply actions  

"He's very modest...

but he loves the limelight”... HUNH?

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 14, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions  

I love Geo's modesty

and he’s a cutie

geo4mvpgeo4roygeo4everything

by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

decent job by uggla

i’m watching on 360 – sorry if my comments are delayed

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on Jul 14, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions  

who just said

“Who needs steroids?”

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions  

answer

Bonds, Sosa, McGwire, Canseco, Rodriguez?

Perception is 9/10ths of the law. - Steve Young, NFL legend and multiple concussion recipient.

by Griff5479 on Jul 14, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was it a vendor?

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 14, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Steriods, steriods here.

Get yer hot steriods…

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 14, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah who said that?!?

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on Jul 14, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is asinine

I’m off to read Money Ball

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 14, 2008 7:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Great book!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 14, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

SORIANO!

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 7:34 PM CDT reply actions  

So, has anyone else been listening to SportsCentral? Have the played that montage mentioned above yet?

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply actions  

100% sure?

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Jul 14, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great, thanks. I'll try to obtain that for whoever wanted it.

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks northsider..

I’d appreciate it too…all I have is a crappy clock radio..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 14, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

grady is gravy

all upper deck – sheesh

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on Jul 14, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh good, a Brett Favre update....

..it’s been a couple hours.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions  

lol

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

ESPN4?

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Favre

says he feels unwelcome in Green Bay. That is just the kind of thing that makes a guy want to retire again…

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 14, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

and again...and again....

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Evan Longoria

isnt doing as well as the first two

geo4mvpgeo4roygeo4everything

by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Perception is 9/10ths of the law. - Steve Young, NFL legend and multiple concussion recipient.

by Griff5479 on Jul 14, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

OMG, that is perfect....

except they forgot the “I was so much older then, I’m younger than that now” lyric quote.

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahahahaha!

Yes.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 14, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bravo!

"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."

by californiachicagoan on Jul 14, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

That last one was a great catch...

and I’m just kidding. I almost like watching the kids fight for the ball more than the HR’s.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 14, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions  

for you youngsters...

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

The bastard child

of Fred Gwynne and Jim Nabors, ladies & gentlemen!

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 14, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

When did Robb Nen pitch for the Angels?

"That’s what I love about my skip, man. He’ll tell you that you suck...I know I suck. We know we suck...Yeah, we suck. But we’ll see who sucks at the end."
- Gary Sheffield

by DrGalazkiewicz on Jul 14, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

"I disagree"

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

ugh

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Jul 14, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Should they be going nuts when they catch a ball in the stands?

I mean, it’s Home Run Derby!

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions  

So far I'm not impressed

Someone needs to bat blinfolded or they should throw two balls at the same time. Y’know…like the slam dunk contest. Now that would be something!

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 14, 2008 7:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Was that Tim McLelland umpiring?

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 14, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, Berkman is batting left, ESPN was wrong. I am shocked.

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 7:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Are you shocked

at Berkman batting left, or ESPN being wrong?

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

The latter. They never get ANYTHING wrong. Just look at Stephen A. Smith. The very best in sports journalism!

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah yes

you can’t forget about the integrity of Joe Morgan. Greatest commentary in history.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, those two were killed.....

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 8:00 PM CDT reply actions  

No, but it comes with a hat!

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

not bad for $120....I like that hat...

too bad the jersey’s not a button down one.

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude

is killin’ it!!!

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 14, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Z sighting!

Bet he’s jealous!

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Jul 14, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

No doubt

you just know he wants a piece of this!

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 14, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Crushing it.....good job Berkman

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

LEFTY

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply actions  

"We've got 8 white guys here competing!"

Who said that?

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 8:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Rick Reilly

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Jul 14, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

White guys, white guys...

get yer rod hot white guys here!

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 14, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rod hot? TWSS.

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow...

This is like the Kiwanis club… crickets crickets crickets

Perception is 9/10ths of the law. - Steve Young, NFL legend and multiple concussion recipient.

by Griff5479 on Jul 14, 2008 8:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I was referencing the asinine race convo going on on TV

Perception is 9/10ths of the law. - Steve Young, NFL legend and multiple concussion recipient.

by Griff5479 on Jul 14, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL...oops, sorry, man.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

a white guy

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:09 PM CDT reply actions  

SORIANO!

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 8:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I have to admit.....

Im rooting for Hamilton….if he stays clean that is a true feel good story

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:11 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm rooting for Hamilton as well...

It’s good to see him make a comeback. He’s got great skills.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 14, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some of us in Tampa...

...not as enamored of Hamilton…he basically threw away a huge signing bonus on crack, and the franchise finally decided enough was enough and waived him.

Glad he’s got his life on track, but it’s hard to root for him sometimes given how he set back the franchise a few years.

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Jul 14, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

morneau tied

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Morneau ties it up

big ol’ Canadian

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Boooooooooooooooo!

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 8:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I hope his agent beans him

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is Theriot next?

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 8:16 PM CDT reply actions  

He's competing

in the singles-to-right competition right after this. :)

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 14, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

If they had put Fontenot in the HRD, that would have been HILARIOUS.

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

This agent SUCKS. He's throwing a bunch of changeups that are sinking at the end. Throw it straight, fool!

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 8:17 PM CDT reply actions  

This may be the only time in history "On The Record with Greta Van Susteren on Fox News" is ever mentioned on the ESPN ticker, lol.

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

The Tribune's Phil Rogers is trying to pwn Kerry Wood.

“Kerry said today he wants the World Series home field advantage to go back to what it used to be, the best record. Well, Kerry, that’s not what it was, it alternated back and forth, irregardless of record!”

Well, Phil, irregardless isn’t a word, you moron.

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 8:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Kerry's got a point...

.....80% of the players in the ASG won’t make it the WS. Another dumb Selig move.

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

what is pwn?

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

pwn
1. An act of dominating an opponent.

2. Great, ingenious; applied to methods and objects.

Originally dates back to the days of WarCraft, when a map designer mispelled “Own” as “Pwn”. What was originally supose to be “player has been owned.” was “player has been pwned”.

Pwn eventually grew from there and is now used throughout the online world, especially in online games.
1. “I pwn these guys on battlenet”

2. “This strategy pwns!” or “This game pwn.”

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha!!!

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 14, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

the only reason it changed was because FOX wanted it that way....

and its in their contract until it expires

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Go JOSH

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:27 PM CDT reply actions  

berman asleep as the wheel.

I used to be "Jones," but I got swooped on the redesign.

by Mr Snrub on Jul 14, 2008 8:28 PM CDT reply actions  

*at

I used to be "Jones," but I got swooped on the redesign.

by Mr Snrub on Jul 14, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

500 feet

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Shut up Berman....shut up.....

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 8:29 PM CDT reply actions  

"Evan Longoria, headed home. He hit like EVA Longoria."

Ugh. Hacky, hacky reference, Dave Kaplan. Just terrible.

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 8:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Damn you prearranged move with the Reds!

Damn you!

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jul 14, 2008 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

He is crushing that ball

go Hamilton!

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

They are about to replay the montage

of the first half on WGN radio!!

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 14, 2008 8:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Josh Hamilton: "I don't need that freaking short porch in right"

“I’m going to hit all mine in right center”

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 8:31 PM CDT reply actions  

GO JOSH

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Now there's a job that's hard to get....

“Home Run Derby Umpire”

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply actions  

I think those are Hanleys

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jul 14, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's kinda like Pulp Fiction

It’s beautiful but we’ll never know…

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Party at Josh's hotel room

if he wins this thing! Thus the cheers!

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 14, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

They should just end it now....and give it to him

Dont kno…...given to him by Edinson volquez

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

my gosh

hamilton!!!

Dear SBnation, We need our own server here at BCB seeing how its became very slow due to enormous amounts of traffic. P.S. Impeach Bud Selig!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jul 14, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

this is amazing

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

agreed

everything about it is amazing. even without the drugs and attempted suicedes. Just the fact that he was out of baseball completely for so long and to be able to come back and hit big league pitching is harder than anyone could imagine

by BradB311 on Jul 14, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

i just wanted to chime in real quick...

as much as ESPN is totally playing Hamilton up… I’m so a huge fan of this guy right now and this is one of the best shows I’ve seen since Burrell put like 41 up the other year… he will win this, and I hope he has an incredible season and comes back to the Cubs VERY soon ;-)

by lswaidz on Jul 14, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

WOW!

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Jul 14, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

71 yr old man

probably the best moment of his life—-what a way to give back

Dear SBnation, We need our own server here at BCB seeing how its became very slow due to enormous amounts of traffic. P.S. Impeach Bud Selig!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jul 14, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply actions  

those cops are so

beating the crap outta those kids right now

by lswaidz on Jul 14, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions  

The Milwaukee Brewers have just entered into talks with Counsil, looking to add him to their bullpen for the stretch run.

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

how many is he at

A ugly win is better than a pretty loss-Lou

by NIUcubbie on Jul 14, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

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"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think this old man could even pitch for Dusty

hes got a rubber arm

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jul 14, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

This is Amazing

I thought Sosa at Miller Park was great

This is amazing

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .283 15 HR 40 RBI

by Galvan316 on Jul 14, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

518 feet. Wow.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

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"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

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"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

"this one is in pelham."

do you think boomer just looks at the subway map near whichever park he goes to? really annoying.

I used to be "Jones," but I got swooped on the redesign.

by Mr Snrub on Jul 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

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"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

chris berman is not prone to hyperbole

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jul 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

lemme guess

the day we traded him for CASH… CASH?????!!!

by lswaidz on Jul 14, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was a pre-arranged deal.

He was never technically with the Cubs.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 14, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess Hendry could have pulled an Isiah Thomas.

Didn’t Isiah break his word on a deal with the Bulls once?

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 14, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Keep in mind....

No one thought at the time he could come back…he was OUT OF BASEBALL for three years after SERIOUS drug abuse. There was a story in the local Tampa paper about him passed out in a crack den…I’ll see if I can find the link…

There were serious red flags at the time.

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Jul 14, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

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"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Could you imagine these shots at Wrigley?

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .283 15 HR 40 RBI

by Galvan316 on Jul 14, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah

screw waveland… he’d be hitting grace st.

by lswaidz on Jul 14, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

hamilton is getting under these

and hitting them 500 ft… incredible

by lswaidz on Jul 14, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Who knew crack

was a PED?

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 14, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

HAHAHAH!!!!

Nice!

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 14, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

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"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

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"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions  

good for him

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions  

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"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions  

"Staten Island Bound"

BINGO!!!!!!

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions  

lol

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't even think he's trying anymore

Just can’t even help it

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions  

these are juiced BP balls right?

still amazing though

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jul 14, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions  

so if the trend holds...

josh hamilton will not hit another home run all season

by lswaidz on Jul 14, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions  

I think this is a great story

Of what determination of trying to overcome anything. And you could be in the spot light.

Great Story.

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .283 15 HR 40 RBI

by Galvan316 on Jul 14, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah

get rich, blow all your money on drugs and ruin your life, and someday you could be famous kids! It’s the American dream! Please. There are people every day who overcome real hardships to achieve great things. This jackass wasted millions and continually broke the law, and now we are supposed to feel all warm and squishy because he can hit a little ball a long way? You can have him…

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 14, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

addiction is a cycle

and he was in it… people are dealing with what he went through every day… imagine that but with millions of dollars to blow on coke and booze… as someone who has been there, i think you’re way out of line… but it’s cool. this guy is absolutely incredible to be where he is at that level…

by lswaidz on Jul 14, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm glad for him that he overcame his addiction

but to call it overcoming adversity overlooks the fact that he put himself in that position in the first place. I’ve done more than my share of illegal substances in the past, sat in a room with members of a Mexican coke cartel, stood watch in a car with a semi-automatic weapon in my hand while my friends were picking up that week’s stash, smoked crack, done LSD, shrooms, meth, and smoked more weed than Snoop Dogg, but I do not expect anybody to congratulate me for stopping. I am glad to still be alive. Hey, Galvan 316, bite me.

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 14, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

remember...

ESPN is really glorfying all of this… his life was screwed up, he made the choice to fix it, and he’s been good since… that’s a huge, huge hurdle to overcome… be proud of him, and what he’s doing and hope that his story serves as a lesson for everyone else that you can do anything you put your mind to…

by lswaidz on Jul 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry

to be so blunt and preachy-sounding, Iswaidz. I let my emotions get the better of me. I agree with your points, and that he is a great athlete. I just feel sometimes that our society makes too many excuses for people. I made poor choices, and with God’s help, my life is on the right path again. I should never have strayed…

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 14, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blunt is what you are best my brougham...

You hit the nail on the head. I know you don’t need me to defend you, but I think Hamilton is a great baseball story that’s all. Hamilton, I think, would agree with you.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 14, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bite me too.

I was waiting for Goodie to put you in your place. Think before you type. Hamilton is a good baseball story, that’s it. His story is not an example for anyone to follow, and I think that Hamilton would tell you that as well.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think its the fact that you CAN

over come all your demons. Whatever they can be. Insperation can come in all forms.

Apparently you’ve never had a rough time at any point in your life.

Jackass

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .283 15 HR 40 RBI

by Galvan316 on Jul 14, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

the best part of this?

NO BRETT FAVRE NEWS

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jul 14, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

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"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

he should bunt one just to get to 9

so he can start makin those kids some freakin money

by lswaidz on Jul 14, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

If I was in 2nd or 3rd place right now....

.....I’d say “No Mas”. The HR derby championship is yours, Josh.

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

28

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

28

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

thank god

let’s make some kids some money

by lswaidz on Jul 14, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

darn

geo4mvpgeo4roygeo4everything

by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Theriot career HRs: 7

Fontenot: 10 (7 this year)
Cedeno: 12
Johnson: 45
Soto: 19
Zambrano: 13

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Way to go Hamilton

that was amazing. Good for him!

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Missed the gold ball.....damn

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

28

Wow….

That was amazing.

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .283 15 HR 40 RBI

by Galvan316 on Jul 14, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

both sides

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

way too much....

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

"too much"?

/obvious joke

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

what ever it is

it would look good on my bedroom floor

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that Marmol witht he backwards cap?

More important news: Erin Andrews is a looker.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 14, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

54 pitches, 28 gopher balls....

rough day for that pitcher….

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Z!

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Z being Z

he is kinda kooky but i love him

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 8:53 PM CDT reply actions  

WOW

Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.

by Jayo525 on Jul 14, 2008 8:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Hamilton article....from the St. Petersburg Times

He has been The Best Prospect Ever, the can’t-miss No. 1 pick in the 1999 draft. The Greatest Waste of Talent, as drugs interrupted his career and nearly ended his life. The Most Compelling Comeback Story, as he rebounded from those depths all the way to the big leagues.

Josh Hamilton on Monday comes to Tropicana Field to finally play his first game there. He comes in as the American League’s best offensive player, leading the majors in RBIs and the AL in nearly a dozen other categories. And he comes in as a visitor, a Texas Ranger a few degrees removed from the Rays’ now-regrettable December 2006 decision to leave him exposed for the Rule 5 draft.

But before also calling him The Biggest Mistake They’ve Made, know that Hamilton’s not so sure they made the wrong choice, given what they knew then.

“They didn’t know what to expect,” he said. “Nobody did. They didn’t ever think I’d do what I did.”

Not even Hamilton.

From the downward spiral that started with the spring 2001 truck accident that led him to the Bradenton tattoo parlor that led him to the drugs that nearly cost him his life and career, Hamilton sat out (injured, inactive, restricted, suspended) nearly four full years before the Rays, under new boss Andrew Friedman, championed the effort to get him reinstated in June 2006.

He played only briefly (15 games) for their low-level Hudson Valley farm team before requiring surgery on his left knee, and the Rays didn’t see the need to put him back on the 40-man roster to protect him for the annual draft of minor-leaguers (who then have to be kept in the majors the entire next season).

But the Reds were willing to take a chance, got 19 homers in 90 games (and two stints on the DL) out of him, then got primo pitching prospect Edinson Volquez in a trade with Texas. The Rays got the $50,000 draft fee.

“In retrospect, clearly we made a mistake,” Friedman said Saturday. “His success is really incredible. It’s a testament to Josh and his determination. It’s an amazing story. A number of people in our organization helped him on his path, and except when we’re playing against the Rangers, we’re all rooting for his continued success.”

Hamilton, who turned 27 last week, said he’ll always be grateful to the Rays for his first chance, and specifically to Friedman for his second. He doesn’t accuse them of giving up on him, but he doesn’t absolve them, either.

“I don’t know what to think about the situation,” he said. “I think what was supposed to happen, happened. Oh well, I’m doing all right.”

The Rays made an error in judgment, magnified because shortly after the draft they dumped some bit players off the 40-man roster, middle reliever Travis Harper and extra outfielder Damon Hollins.

The way Hamilton has played – hitting .337 with 12 homers and 53 RBIs – has made it look worse.

Opposing players are staying in the dugout to watch him take batting practice. (“He’s just a freak of nature,” Baltimore’s Aubrey Huff said.) Teammates rave about him as a player and a person. (“He’s our guy,” infielder Ian Kinsler said.) The Rangers have been so impressed they are considering signing him to a long-term deal. (“After seeing him for a while, nothing Josh does surprises me,” manager Ron Washington said.)

Even some of the Rays, seeing the highlights and checking his stats, admit to wondering, What if he were in rightfield?

“How could you not?” pitcher James Shields said. “I can just imagine what it would be like.”

“You think about it all the time,” leftfielder Carl Crawford said. “But it was just one of those things. You just didn’t know that (his amazing play) was going to happen. You knew he could do it, but you didn’t know if it ever would happen. It’s good to see him doing well. It would have been nice to have him over here, though.”

Sitting in the lobby of the Rangers hotel for an hour after Friday’s game, talking about old times (like when he threw out the first pitch at the Trop after being drafted) and old names (former managing general partner Vince Naimoli, who wrote him letters of encouragement), Hamilton makes a startling revelation about the upcoming three-game series.

“I’ll probably be nervous,” he said.

And he has questions, asking several times, “You think I’ll get booed down there?” then shrugging and adding the gentle jab, “It wasn’t my choice to leave.”

He wonders if the Trop heckler will be on him. He asks about Crawford and the health of Rocco Baldelli, whom he was projected to join in the team’s dream outfield. He inquires about long-time staffers such as now-farm director Mitch Lukevics, trainer Ron Porterfield and the coaches.

Hamilton has already told Washington he wants to play in all three games and wants to know who’s pitching (Scott Kazmir, Andy Sonnanstine and Matt Garza). “I can’t wait to see how they think they’re going to pitch me,” he said, flashing the old grin and cockiness that make him special.

Hamilton says his life – still steeped deeply in faith and family – is good off the field, too. His wife, Katie, is expecting a third daughter in August, and they’re moving into a new house in North Carolina. He has been sober – no drugs or alcohol – since Oct. 5, 2005, and is tested three times a week year-round. He says Katie, who was a driving force in his recovery, “trusts me now” to handle more situations.

A book, with so much detail Katie has been shocked, is expected by the spring, and it would be a surprise if a movie didn’t follow.

The Rangers, like the Reds, made provisions for extra care, hiring Johnny Narron as a “special assignment” coach with Hamilton, whom he has known since childhood, as his primary responsibility.

“I make sure Josh is okay away from the field,” Narron said.

When the team is home, Narron, who had the same job with the Reds, will stay at Hamilton’s house (when his family isn’t there). On the road, Narron doesn’t shadow him, but Hamilton is required to let him know where he is at all times. “He’s not my babysitter,” Hamilton said. “It’s about having someone hold you accountable.”

Typically? He watches TV in his room (Discovery Channel or National Geographic and rarely ESPN), plays video games with teammates or hosts a bible study or devotional.

Hamilton says routinely that the two most important things in his life are his relationship with God and his family. As a distant third, baseball’s working out pretty well, too.

Seeing the staggering numbers Hamilton has put up, people tend to ask how he’s doing it. But in reality, he’s just doing what he used to do in Princeton and Charleston and what he expected to do at the Trop – for the home team.

“It’s just fun,” he said. “It’s the way it was when I was in the minor leagues with the Rays. It feels exactly the same; if I’m in the lineup, staying healthy, the numbers are going to be there.”

Marc Topkin can be reached at topkin@sptimes.com

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Jul 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Not good

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just a link to the article would have sufficed...

and what Al prefers….

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, but link didn't work....it was in archive

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Jul 14, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Link next time, buddy.

You could have linked it with an excerpt, NotSure. Copy and pasting everything is neesh keet, especially during an Open Thread.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 14, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is why the 3 rounds are silly...

Josh is CLEARLY the winner!

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Jul 14, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Nope

He’s automatically into the final round, I think, but he has to win it there, too.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 14, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

No idea

I want to say first, but I want to say a lot of things.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 14, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, I think it's first...

...so Josh might not even have to bat? Wonder if they make him because of the money ball?

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately...

no, unless his competitor conceeds.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

personally, after that performance, i would concede

but thats probably another reason im not a professional athlete

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by IheartGeo on Jul 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Lance Berkman's a fat guy.

He’s like a hybrid mix between Jay Leno and Elvis

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 14, 2008 9:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Is it just me

I wanna hear from Reggie Jackson about as much as Joe Morgan

by BradB311 on Jul 14, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

I like Reggie...

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

My favorite Chris Bermann nickname:

Jake DAYLIGHT COME AND ME WANNA Delhomme

His brilliance and wit is unrivaled. If Chris Bermann was a religion I’d convert to Bermanism and become a Bermanite.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 14, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Berman, that is

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahahahaha

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 14, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I liked

Carlos ” By land, By Sea” Baerga (sp?)

by BradB311 on Jul 14, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

"It's a lousy night to be an atheist."

Is that Reilly? I’ve never heard his voice. If it is, he should never be on air again.

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 9:14 PM CDT reply actions  

is he the same a-hole

that made a big deal about no black players in the derby? thanks for supporting racism dumbass… this guy needs to go

by lswaidz on Jul 14, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, that's him...

that and the “Why are so many white guys here competing? Where at the latinos?” are just ridiculous.

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

CONSPIRACY!!!

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 14, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

What? I missed that

Why?

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why what?

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why is it a lousy night to be an Athiest?

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

because josh hamilton found god

this guy is a total dumbass… just ignore him… he makes joe morgan sound like martin luther king, jr.

by lswaidz on Jul 14, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now THAT is an accomplishment.

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm having a pleasant night

thank you very much dumb ESPN announcer

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 14, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

"It's a lousy night to be an atheist" ?

Lord, beer me strength.

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 14, 2008 9:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Unless there's a ton of Bengay back there, the 71-year-old BP pitcher, who probably throws to a lot of people at a time, far fewer than one player on one night, is going to be in trouble?

Shut. Up. Reilly. Wow this guy is not funny at all.

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 14, 2008 9:16 PM CDT reply actions