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Miller or Bud? The Cubs Fan's Dilemma

This may be semi-OT, but it's something I've thought about and discussed with some friends of mine for a while now (rather unsurprising since I'm a college student), and I wanted to gauge the beer-swilling Cub fan community's opinion as well:

As a Cubs fan, which beer do you prefer: Miller Lite or Budweiser/Bud Light? It's an interesting dilemma which I think goes beyond simply taste preference. Obviously, we'd all prefer Old Style for obvious reasons, but because these two beers are far more likely to be available at a big-chain restaurant than a regional brew like Old Style, It would be too much of a cop out to include the local favorite. After all, down here in Champaign Old Style is rather hard to come by (although I recently saw a local liquor store selling it in bottles).

Bud Light

On the face of things, this appears to be the most obvious choice. The Budweiser rooftop on Waveland has become synonymous with Wrigley, they brand themselves rigorously with the team (on TV, with signage, etc.), and Bud Light is readily available at the ballpark (they are, after all, the Bud Light Bleachers). And let's not forget our guy Harry Caray -- after all, he was *the* Cub Fan and Bud Man.

That said, the obvious Anheuser-Busch connection to St. Louis is a repulsive force. With Busch Stadium being the home of the Cubs' biggest rival, Budweiser, for all its efforts on the north side, is an unbrazen representative of the Cardinals, St. Louis, and all things Joe Buck. And, Harry's greatness aside, did his time in St. Louis inoculate him into liking their beer, even in Chicago?

Thus, the question becomes: is drinking Bud the equivalent of fraternizing with the enemy?

Miller Lite

So the alternative, then, lies with Bud's biggest rival: Miller. While Bud may have the lucrative beverage deal inside Wrigley proper, Miller has countered with their own signage, in right field next to the revered Eamus Catuli numbers, and while it may not be as iconic as the red roof, the slogans are routinely entertaining. (additional examples herehere, and here). Further, the recent decision by MillerCoors to move to Chicago may suggest the brand's future growth in the area, and it may perhaps be embraced by Chicagoans more definitively. And as a side note, Miller Lite was, more or less, the first light beer to be mass produced.

Not to mention: it's blue! Bonus points for that, right?

Ah yes, but in the last decade a new Cubs rival has emerged, and they, in similar fashion to the Cards, are connected with this major beer label. Milwaukee is unquestionably Miller's territory (it's Miller freakin' Park). We may still think of Brewers as a very respectable, friendly rival, but the feeling isn't quite mutual (see the other BCB for some examples, however tepid they may be). 

Not to mention the fact that Miller has built a certain connotation with that other Chicago team

But that said, there was that sign last year that trashed Miller's own team....

So what's your take on this issue? Which do you think tastes better? Which do you make yourself think tastes better for ethical reasons?

EDIT: Additional Disclaimer: We all know there are better tasting beers than these two. Consider this a hypothetical, "desert island" type of choice.

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What's it gonna be?
Bud Light
42 votes
Miller Lite
80 votes

122 votes | Poll has closed

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I vote for sweetened iced tea, but it's not an option.

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 16, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd vote for beer that doesn't taste like crap, but it's not an option.

"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman

by hip2bsquare on Jul 16, 2008 1:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 16, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same here.

At Wrigley, ever since I discovered the premium beers I haven’t purchased a single one of the awful beers sold at the regular concession outlets and sold in the stands.

Why pay $6.25 for crap when I can have a Heineken for $6?

by Wreckard on Jul 16, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+everything

Loves me some Heineken.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jul 16, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

everyone has their own pallates...

but to me Heineken always had somewhat of a “skunky” taste

"Look at it this way: If you're a Cubs fan, the Greatest Day of Your Life is yet to come." ~ Cubs Forever

by IvyOnTheWall on Jul 16, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Tried it once, thought it was awful.

Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.

by Cool Hand on Jul 16, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well Heineken is just one of the many choices at the premium beer cart

There’s other good stuff there like Beck’s, Amstel, and so on, most of which are better options than Old Style, Miller, or Bud.

My point is just that there’s better options in the ballpark.

by Wreckard on Jul 16, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two heinekens over here, chief!

"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente

by cubbybear on Jul 16, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take one!

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jul 16, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ack to Heineken...

I’d rather not drink than drink a Heineken, that said Bud is the beer of choice regardless of their affiliation with the birds.

by jbertram on Jul 16, 2008 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jagerbombs.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jul 16, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

was talking to a guy at the bar the other night during the ASG…said when he was stationed over in Germany drank a lot of jagermeister…got sick…and wasn’t able to even smell it for 23 years after that.

"Look at it this way: If you're a Cubs fan, the Greatest Day of Your Life is yet to come." ~ Cubs Forever

by IvyOnTheWall on Jul 17, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm the same exact way

one bad night with jager, resulted in alcohol poisoning and now if i even get a hint of it within 2 feet of me i get nauseous

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 17, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You and me both

"Please move away from this vector and get into another coordinate pronto. There's no access for you in this quadrant." Mike Donnelly

by McRipper on Jul 17, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heineken = bad

Heineken Light = good

CRAFTY BEAVER!!!

by lostinthevines on Jul 16, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I don’t care where Miller is brewed . . . it’s bad beer. And I’m from Wisconsin.

If I had to choose between Miller or Bud, I’d have a Bud, but the lights/lites . . . ugh.

by Shanghai Badger on Jul 16, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Goose Island

I think we can’t go with Bud or Miller/Coors because they are linked to other ball parks in the National Leauge…
Bud- Cardnals Coors- Rockies Miller- Brewers.
Sam Adam’s is from Boston, so I guess they can be linked to the Red Sox.

The only choice we have is Goose Island a local Brew. Honkers

by martiniduck on Jul 16, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've always been

a Miller man, when it comes to beer, I prefer MGD or Miller Lite.

"I wish I had a dollar for every time I spent a dollar, because then I'd have all my money back."
-Jack Handey

by deepthoughtsbyjackhandey on Jul 16, 2008 1:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gotta live the High Life

"Look at it this way: If you're a Cubs fan, the Greatest Day of Your Life is yet to come." ~ Cubs Forever

by IvyOnTheWall on Jul 16, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops

How could I forget? One of my favorites

"I wish I had a dollar for every time I spent a dollar, because then I'd have all my money back."
-Jack Handey

by deepthoughtsbyjackhandey on Jul 16, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pabst Blue Ribbon

made by the same people that make Old Style

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 16, 2008 1:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint.

by Less is Walrond on Jul 16, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not technically true.

Miller contract brews for them, but they are not owned by them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pabst_Brewing_Company

Old Style is the nectar of life.

by Mordecai on Jul 16, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Goose Island

A write-in for some Honker’s Ale. Pretty good stuff.

by DonnyDonovan on Jul 16, 2008 1:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I’m also partial to 312.

"And heeeere cooome the pretzels!"

by NightPutting on Jul 16, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is currently

one of my favorites

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 16, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent choice!

Honker’s is one of the best craft beers available in the Chicago area, IMHO.

Unfortunately, the best beer I’ve ever had in my life doesn’t have any distributors in this part of the country. (Steam Engine Lager, from Steamworks Brewing Company, Durango, CO. Amazing stuff.)

"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman

by hip2bsquare on Jul 16, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Three Floyd's

FTW

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by Fuk-U-Meter on Jul 16, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ding ding ding

We have a winner.

I lived in Portland OR for a while and became a bit of a beesnob. Three Floyds IPA is as good as any Northwest brewed beer.

Having moved back to Chicago I’ve reembraced my blue collar beer ways. So when its not a craft brew is MGD.

"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella

by El Borto on Jul 16, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a big fan of the Goose Island IPA myself

For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint.

by Less is Walrond on Jul 16, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I vote Miller....but not like the Miller from Miller Park vendors.....

Here is the hierarchy of beer drinking vessels:
1. Draft beer in a glass
2. Draft beer in a cup served by Steve or Les in the UD at Wrigley
3. Glass bottle
4. Aluminum Can
4 (tie). Aluminum “bottle” (anyone can see it’s really just a can)
5. Leather boot
6. Plastic bottle

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by Fuk-U-Meter on Jul 16, 2008 1:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm an North East Coaster

Yuengling baby!!!

"Please move away from this vector and get into another coordinate pronto. There's no access for you in this quadrant." Mike Donnelly

by McRipper on Jul 16, 2008 1:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll second that...

...Yuengling Lager is my favorite.

by 60613 on Jul 16, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yunegling is the shit!!!

They serve it in FL… i juts moved here from there and when I saw they don’t serve Yungling here (Decatur, IL) I was a sad man. I did find goose island and Fat Tire (new belgium brewery, FT Collins, CO) though, so it’s a wash.

by GoCubbies34 on Jul 16, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

All time favorites are still Stroh's and Old Style, but

Stroh’s is too hard to find. I would go Miller as they just announced that MillerCoors is moving to Chicago. None of that Belgian St. Louis swill for me (Sorry Harry).

by N Oakley on Jul 16, 2008 1:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I read an article recently

That Stroh’s (or maybe it was Schlitz) is reverting back to the recipe that was used in the 50s and 60s. Supposedly it used to be a lot better than it has been recently.

"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella

by El Borto on Jul 16, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go with what you like

I wouldn’t worry about either Miller or Budweiser being linked with our competitors. Both companies have now been bought out by foreign companies (Bud just approved the buy out yesterda). I guess the more valid question is if you would rather support a South African or Belgian company!!! Either way, you are not supporting the opposition in any way shape or form.

Way back... outta here!!!

by Chubby Hugs on Jul 16, 2008 1:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Neither.

Bud’s always given me a headache. I stopped drinking Miller Lite many years ago out of principle (when they were owned by RJ Reynolds). Not trying to be political here. I’m just stating my reason. These days, I drink Rolling Rock or some local Wisconsin beers (I live in Wisconsin).

by madmf on Jul 16, 2008 1:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

mmmmm

New Glarus Spotted Cow

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by Fuk-U-Meter on Jul 16, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love me some Spotted Cow.

New Glarus Yokel’s pretty darn good too. Also like Capital’s Island Wheat.

by madmf on Jul 16, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You just cant go wrong

with those Wisconsin microbrews.

"You just don't know understand how frustrating this is"- Kevin Borseth

by TkGoUWGB on Jul 16, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just had a New Glarus Spotted Cow

...for the first time, great stuff!

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Jul 16, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rolling Rock...

...is good stuff, but I liked it more before Budweiser bought it and moved the brewery. No more “Glass-Lined Tanks of Old Latrobe”. What a shame.

"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman

by hip2bsquare on Jul 16, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a Rolling Rock guy, too.

I had no idea it was owned by Bud, though. I really should look into these things.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 16, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

RR was the late Tim Russert's favorite, too. Brokaw had one at the memorial.

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 16, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't know

about the Bud ownership either. Learn something new everyday.

by madmf on Jul 16, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rolling Rock and other regional beers

The loss of regional beers is a big deal. Old Style isn’t brewed by J. Heilman in LaCrosse, WI, its now part of one of the large, foreign owned Megabreweries (Miller, I think). Its not the same beer. But the Rolling Rock Story is particularly sad. Busch bought RR from InBev (the same guys that just purchased Busch). The first thing that they did was move the production from Latrobe to the Budwiser Brewery in Newark (the one next to the airport). And they have changed the bottle. The beer is now “inspired” by the glass lined tanks of Latrobe etc. What is it? Another mega-industrial beer. It “safe” beer. It won’t present any health hazards. Its consistent beer. It will taste the same from bottle to bottle. (To the extent that it has taste). But its lost the distinction.

The only thing that one can hope is that the “appeal” of AB was truly their “american” roots and when the European control becomes more obvious…. down goes Fraizer….

by frustratedfan on Jul 16, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, suddenly I feel...

...infinitely less cool for drinking Rolling Rock. Next you’ll tell me Milwaukee’s Best isn’t made in Milwaukee.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 16, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pabst owns many brands, including Old Style,

Stroh’s, and many more. However, Pabst doesn’t have any brewing facilities. They contract out the brewing of ALL of their regional brands, including their own PBR brand. The brewing of Old Style is contracted out to Miller, in Milwaukee. They continue to use the old recipies.

PBR also owns the Schlitz brand, and is allegedly restoring the 1960’s formula—as mentioned here earlier. That, I think is brewed @ Miller in Texas, but I’m not quite sure about that. Check the Pabst web site for all of the brands they control

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 16, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Schlitz is back

I had a pair last time I was in Madison. Go on the right night at Old Fashioned in Madison, i believe it’s a dollar a can…and its still overpriced. Haha.

"You just don't know understand how frustrating this is"- Kevin Borseth

by TkGoUWGB on Jul 16, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ever had Furthermore?

It’s pretty good. And my sister knows the guy who makes it.

Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.

by Cool Hand on Jul 16, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beer....blech...meh...whatever.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 16, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I agree on blech … iced tea for me!

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 16, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

like it's 1989

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 16, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing wrong with older women with wild sides

"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente

by cubbybear on Jul 16, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coors

is my favorite but Miller comes in second. I hate any budweiser product except for Michelob.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by tucsoncubsfan on Jul 16, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A fantastic question

I’ve pondered this many times myself for many of the same reasons. I never buy the stuff at the store, because it looks like you’re buying beer for a high school party, but sometimes at the bars you dont really have a choice.

I respect what the Brewers have done. I despise the Cards. Miller eeks it out. But just barely. They’re both piss.

For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint.

by Less is Walrond on Jul 16, 2008 2:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

In order:

cold free beer is #1, free beer #2, cold beer #3. Since I just returned from Wrigley I had trouble finding a cold beer there and it wasn’t free. Give me a Miller Lite or if you buy me a Bud Light I’ll drink it. Favorite beer I ever found was in a brew pub in downtown Milwaukee that was a homebrew rasberry beer, nothing too bad just a light hint of red rasberry. Man that was good! Last choice is that new MGD 46. 46 calories of water taste. I will also drink a cold Premium Grain Belt in Minnesota, great flavor.

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Jul 16, 2008 2:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Miller or Bud

Neifi prefers Coors Light

by Neifi Perez on Jul 16, 2008 2:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WOW

Lots of Miller Fans here. I had to go with bud light but nothing beats the cool refershing Michelob Golden Light!! Something i have to take to Ill when i go to cubs games. Or good old BUSH light, regardless I am not a miller fan!

by bleed that blue on Jul 16, 2008 2:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Busch Light

as in Anheuser-Busch. Bush light is something else entirely.

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by Fuk-U-Meter on Jul 16, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm surprised that you guys can tell the difference

A friend of mine is a bartender at a local bar over here. Every once in a while, he tells me that whenever someone asks for a Miller, he gives them Budweiser (or Natural Light, but no one’s talked about that)—and no one’s ever complained. I personally can’t tell the difference; Miller and Budweiser both taste like urine. How I know what urine tastes like, you don’t want to know.

Fat Tire, Leinenkugels, Yuengling (PA DRINKERS UNITE!), Widmer Brother’s Hefeweizen, Blue Moon, Stella Artois, Pyramid Hefeweizen, and Arrogant Bastard are all great beers.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 16, 2008 2:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fat Tire is good

but, since you seem to like wheat based beers, you should try New Belgium’s Mothership Wit and the other wheat beer brewed by New Belgium. It’s the same brewery as Fat tire and at least as good as fat tire.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 16, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yuengling drinker here

I’m from Maryland so I know all about Yuengling. Great beers you listed. If you ever see it, try any Flying Dog beer.

My cousing went to Penn St. and is a huge fan, so i’ve sort of adopted them as my college team.

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by McRipper on Jul 16, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I had to choose...

...I guess I’d go with Miller. I don’t see them as being all that different, though.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 16, 2008 2:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Leinenkugels, which is a Miller owned product

Budweiser is good for killing weeds.

Rich Harden Fever, Catch It !!!!!!!!!!

by MDBNIU on Jul 16, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You know what else is good for killing weeds? Weed-killer.

What, what did you expect?

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 16, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does it even work doing that?

"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente

by cubbybear on Jul 16, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crane Kenney, get Leinie's now!!

Lager is king!!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 16, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

I’m in the minority on this one, but to me Sam Adams is horribly overrated. It’s all about a snappy marketing campaign as opposed to good beer. Granted Sam Adams is above regular commercial brews. But is sadly pales in comparison to lots of premium and micro-brews.

Rich Harden Fever, Catch It !!!!!!!!!!

by MDBNIU on Jul 16, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You make me laugh.

When I start caring about your beer acumen is the day the earth falls off its axis.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 16, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Helloooooooo BlueMike.

Absolutely shocking, that we don’t even agree on beer. You’re my freaking Newman.

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 17, 2008 7:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+ infinity

Miller and Bud are bat urine

Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!

by DaBard on Jul 16, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

John Cleese once called major American beers "near-frozen gnat's urine"

Sounds about right to me. Then again, he does come from a country where beer is frequently served at room temperature. (WTF?)

"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman

by hip2bsquare on Jul 16, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

American Beer = sex in a canoe

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 16, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A sinking canoe?

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 16, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

guess again.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 16, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fecking near water

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 16, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey northsider

the link to the 2nd half radio highlights is broke. Can it be refreshed or something? Serious withdrawals – need Pat/Ron, anything….

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 16, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because they’re both fucking close to water?

by HereComesASpecialBoy on Jul 16, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

FTW!

"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman

by hip2bsquare on Jul 16, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Winner Winner...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 16, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is right, though.

I think there was some video of a guy chatting up Colin Ferrell (sp?) and asked if he wanted to grab a Bud. Colin’s response was, “A Bud? That’s piss, mate.”

I rarely drink American beer, outside of mass drinking with friends. My faves are Heineken, Guinness, and Boddington’s. There’s a great place here in St Louis called Growler’s which carries around 150 different brands. A Scottish one called Wee Heavy Ale knocked me on my ass one night.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jul 16, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

boddingtons

hell yeah!

Soriano - Dome - DLee - Aramis - Soto. If that doesnt turn you on you're not human.

by kylejo on Jul 17, 2008 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of the only beers I can drink at home

and still get the feel of a draft. Guinness draught, too, but I had Boddington’s first.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jul 17, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I revere John Cleese

But I can’t handle British beers. Oatmeal has its place, but it is not in my mug.

I do like getting pints though. That is a cool concept.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!

by DaBard on Jul 16, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do like getting pints though. That is a cool concept.

How else would you get beer at a bar? If you’re ordering by the bottle you may as well be drinking at home.

by Wreckard on Jul 16, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I usually get 24 oz draft

If that’s a pint, so be it. But I like that way of phrasing it.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!

by DaBard on Jul 16, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now that's even cooler!

Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!

by DaBard on Jul 16, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just FYI

since you were referencing the British method of serving beer in pint glasses …. an Imperial Pint is 20 ounces, not 16 like the American pint.

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by JohnM on Jul 16, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mmm...more beer.

Yet another reason I badly want to visit England.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jul 16, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Two pints of lager and a packet of crisps, luv"

(just practice that)

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by JohnM on Jul 16, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or "guv", if the barmaid's a dude

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by JohnM on Jul 16, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I'm about as versed

in their vernacular as an American can be.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jul 16, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point...

And a lot of bars use “pint” glasses that are closer to 12 than 16 ounces.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 16, 2008 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sam Adams

The after-taste of Bud & Miller Highlife just lingers for so long. Sam Adams has a great finsh and they are not the marketing giants of Bud and Miller.

by martiniduck on Jul 16, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Time is an illusion--lunch time doubly so.

by snowyman28 on Jul 16, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

More so with Sam than most

there’s a noticeable difference between tap and bottled. Sam in a bottle is OK, but Sam on tap is really good – in the same league as the good microbrews like Goose Island. IMHO of course.

by ChipSet on Jul 17, 2008 7:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Budweiser is the number one beer by sales in the world

thats a lot of votes…. My favorite too but I do enjoy other beers. I think a lot of Cubs fans equate them with the Cards so I guess that is what skews this poll…

by LT on Jul 16, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ah...

go for the fermented cider!

by tootle on Jul 16, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I prefer Pruno

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruno

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by Fuk-U-Meter on Jul 16, 2008 3:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

or Jenkem

look that up if you dare

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by Fuk-U-Meter on Jul 16, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or just let a cat piss in your face.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jul 16, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lmao

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 16, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No cheesing allowed, Kenny!

n/t

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by Jettero2112 on Jul 16, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Molson

eh?

Eat More Katsui

by CaliCub on Jul 16, 2008 4:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it Canadian?

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 16, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Canadian and American

Merged with Coors a couple years ago; pays a nice dividend.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Jul 18, 2008 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a shame

when even canada has better beers than us. though i do love canada. molson and labatts kick ass.

Soriano - Dome - DLee - Aramis - Soto. If that doesnt turn you on you're not human.

by kylejo on Jul 17, 2008 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But you have

to purchase in Canada. It’s a different brew than what is sold in the U.S.

by N Oakley on Jul 17, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I remember right

Busch owns the Cardinals but Miller doesn’t own the Brew Crew. Point Miller.

"You just don't know understand how frustrating this is"- Kevin Borseth

by TkGoUWGB on Jul 16, 2008 4:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ahhh

thanks for info. I’ll still hold it against the Cardinals and Busch though. Point Miller.

"You just don't know understand how frustrating this is"- Kevin Borseth

by TkGoUWGB on Jul 16, 2008 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neither

I would prefer a nice Sam Adams or Leinenkugles. Barring that, any dark microbrew or import is my preference. Recently discovered Smithwyck’s (sp?) and am hooked. Big fan too of Anchor Steam out of San Fran and Goose Island makes several quality flavors.

Time is an illusion--lunch time doubly so.

by snowyman28 on Jul 16, 2008 4:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1 to Smithwick's...

Also enjoy Samuel Smith’s Oatmeal Stout….mmmmm

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And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Jul 16, 2008 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

smithwicks is the shit

my personal favorite, its like guiness but just a little different, and better imo. i ordered it in an irish bar and pronounced it how its spelled, and was immediately reprimanded because i guess you pronounce it “smitticks”

Soriano - Dome - DLee - Aramis - Soto. If that doesnt turn you on you're not human.

by kylejo on Jul 17, 2008 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, good stuff.

I usually order it in the Irish restaurant located in the town where I live. (OK, that sentence turned out rather awkward…)

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 17, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anything

By Deschutes, Full Sail, or a ton of other NW brews. If i’m drinking light beer, Labatt’s Blue Light – i’ve only ever found it in Buffalo, NY but i would drink it for breakfast if I could.

by thegangler on Jul 16, 2008 5:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

love the nickname nightputting

Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 33-22 (.600)
Edmonds with Cubs: .269 / .369 / .552

by joeschmitt on Jul 16, 2008 5:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sheesh

it figures beer would get the most posts of the day ;-}

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by Emelie on Jul 16, 2008 5:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Write about what you know.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jul 16, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im gonna stick wth the question at hand here:

The only time I like Miller is on Wednesday nights at my favorite bar at Indiana University, The Bluebird, when Miller Lite is only 15 cents a cup, although that is slightly rivaled by the 32 ounces of Bud for a quarter on Thursdays, the bar just isnt as good.

In general, Diesel is my favorite. I LOVE me some Budweiser

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 16, 2008 5:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Beer for $0.15?

So you can pay with a quarter and get change?
“Keep the tip”

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by Fuk-U-Meter on Jul 16, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

Its pretty sweet, and we get free cover on Wednesdays because we are regulars, so just bring about 2-3 dollars and well… your night is set, usually great live music along with it as well

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 16, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When I'm going cheap I'll go with a Miller Lite, but I much prefer

Heineken, Stella, Yuengling, or Amstel. Even the Hieneken Light is good

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by DC Cubbie on Jul 16, 2008 6:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cerveza Es Muy Bueno

Corona, Dos Equis, Pacifico…

Eat More Katsui

by CaliCub on Jul 16, 2008 6:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Neither

Anchor Steam beer out of San Francisco, yummy stuff.

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by DTJchris on Jul 16, 2008 7:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You said its blue..

Coors- It turned Blue!! lol

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by LPLancer23 on Jul 16, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dark Lord Imperial Stout

from Three Floyds.

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by Bump Bailey on Jul 16, 2008 8:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Anything I can't see through.

Guinness is good. I frequent the New Albanian Brewing company down here (s indiana/Louisville). They’ve got 35 beers on tap and another 200 or so in bottles. No bud or miller or coors, etc available. They have some great stouts and porters. That “American” beer, for the most part, is crap. I’d rather have sodas than that crud.

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by Jettero2112 on Jul 16, 2008 9:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gotta go with the local stuff...

Nashville’s very own Yazoo. The Pale Ale is hard to beat. And in the words of the late, great Frank Zappa…
“You can’t be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. “

"You can't be a Real Country unless you have a beer and an
airline - it helps if you have some kind of a football team
or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a BEER." -Frank Zappa

by 615CubFan on Jul 16, 2008 9:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok...

forgot that was my signature too. I’m special that way.

"You can't be a Real Country unless you have a beer and an
airline - it helps if you have some kind of a football team
or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a BEER." -Frank Zappa

by 615CubFan on Jul 16, 2008 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of Frank Zappa

I ran across a little brewpub in Villa Park called Lunar Brewing Company (for any folk out in the west ‘burbs that want to look for it, it’s on the north side of St. Charles Road… it’s west of Villa Ave. and I think east of the Metra… FWIW I lived in Elmhurst and walked there so I just knew it was west on St. Charles from where I got off the Prairie Path). One night I was down there and talking to the owner of the joint, and he had me try a pale ale named in honor of Frank Zappa called Kill Ugly Radio. It was pretty delicious. It was not brewed by the Lunar Brewing Company, so you can probably find it many other places as well. Though I heartily recommend Lunar to anyone that can feasibly get there without drunk-driving (now that I live in the city it’s hard… the Metra only runs so late, and I’m very strict about not drinking before driving. There are plenty of good places to drink in Chicago, of course, too. Lunar is still one of my faves.)

by aldimond on Jul 16, 2008 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been to Lunar several times...

Nice place and they make a fine brew. Used to live in Westchester. Lots of good places in Elmhurst. Spring Inn and the Public House were two of my favorites.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 16, 2008 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Other" should be added to the poll

n/t

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by Jettero2112 on Jul 16, 2008 9:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

To answer the question...(NOTE: potty humor below)

If forced to choose, I go with Miller products…Bud gives me the wind something terrible

Reason enough for ya?

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Jul 16, 2008 10:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

One of the best Micros

Is right here in SD. Karl Strauss.

http://www.karlstrauss.com/index.html

This stuff is so good….and it’s been around almost 20 years. Costco may have the product in other parts of the country. When I taste the highly-touted Micros back in the midwest…I’ll use Goose Island for one example… (every now and then, I can find G-I beers at Trader Joe’ s) I cannot believe how they pale in comparison to Karl Strauss’ product.

Strauss, who passed away a few years ago was the Pabst Brewmaster in the 60s…spent time at the old Pabst brewery in Peoria, before being promoted to Milwaukee.
He retired in the 80s….and by 1989, started one of SoCal’s first Microbrew pubs.

He did all of his radio spots in his thick, German accent. That, plus some clever copy really launched this product line. Even when he was aging, the old minor league San Diego Gulls (of various hockey leagues, The IHL, WCHL, ECHL) would have half price ‘beer night’ with his various brews—he’d trot out to center ice, with 2 babes on his arm, and he’d gulp down a glass in seconds…..Krauss, most assuredly—was a colorful character.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 16, 2008 11:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

By Krauss you mean Strauss, right?

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 17, 2008 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The very best beer

Is brewed here in Melbourne Australia.
Crown Lager, Victoria Bitter or Pure Blonde are nectar of the Gods.

Ive worked in Bars in Europe, Canada and the States, and the close second for me are the Canadian Brews…Labbats and Molson Canadian.
The American ones of choice for me were Miller or Rolling Rock, but there was a beer called Red Hook in Seattle (micro-brewery) that was awesome.
The people I stayed with worked there had it on tap in their home and told me to help myself to it…. so I promptly emptied 3 kegs of it over 5 days.
It was wonderful stuff.
British beer is disgusting, some of the German stuff is OK (but very wheaty) but Kronenbourg (french) and Stella as well as Carlsburg and Heineken are OK if somewhat weak.
I love beer and can’t wait to rip into some local stuff when I finally make it back to Chicago.

"Drink,Drugs and shagging models...the rest I wasted." George Best on where his millions went

by Aussie Cub on Jul 17, 2008 5:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I forgot about

the great Bell’s products, especially the Third Coast Ale. The Oberon, Amber and Lager are great too.

Too bad you can’t still get them in Chicago (as Bell’s).

by N Oakley on Jul 17, 2008 9:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll stick with my AMERICAN beer

Old Style…since the others are no longer American beers, unfortunately.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Jul 17, 2008 11:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm hoping for some champagne at the end of the season.

"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field

by northsider on Jul 17, 2008 12:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't drink anymore.....

but if cub fans are drinking champagne in October…. I will have to have some also :)

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by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 17, 2008 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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