Player Report Cards for the Cubs
by CubbyBlues on Jul 17, 2008 7:55 AM CDT
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Hey all - not sure if anyone has seen this yet, but "ESPN Inside-Edge" (whatever that is) is giving all players from all teams midway report cards based on personal statistics in various situations vs. how the average MLB player performs in these situations. Kinda interesting, as it provides tangible stats for comments like "A-ram is clutch!" and "Soriano chases too many pitches." So check it out, although bare in mind that this database of statistics also shows how insignificant certain stats can sometimes be when compared against sheer production. Enjoy!
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Very fun to look at
They appear to be fairly accurate as well.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by cubs199235 on Jul 17, 2008 9:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind
Why is DeRosa higher than Soriano and Ramirez?
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by cubs199235 on Jul 17, 2008 9:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that's the value
of a 2B over a 3B or LF
Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!
by Ihatethecards on Jul 17, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeRosa and Ramirez are both B's overall.
Soriano’s high strikeouts, due to lack of plate discipline and poor 2 strike performance, knock him down to a C+.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 17, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They also have scouting reports
Some nice depictions of hot zones, spray charts, pitch types/locations, etc… interesting stuff.
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by hip2bsquare on Jul 17, 2008 9:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry but it has to be said
Theriot is above the league average in everything except slugging percentage… other then that, he has ALOT of A’s and B’s…. sorry sorry sorry, I just had to do it
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by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 17, 2008 9:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't go there!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 17, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theriot
Nobody really argues that Theriot’s PAs are bad. They argue that he has ZERO power, which this report solidifies. He’s a good singles hitter who gets on base. Everybody concedes that. Let’s hope they don’t do a report on his defense.
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by McRipper on Jul 17, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Defense really is an interesting thing. As is baserunning. Did the report mention anything about his SLG?
by sackings108 on Jul 17, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes i did
do you just see “Theriot” and stop reading what people write. I said everything EXCEPT SLG is above league average, but yes I am sorry I brought up the subject, we all know how we all stand
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by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 17, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that he has good OBP. I just think everything else is horrible.
But you’re right, we already know how we feel. Moving on…
by sackings108 on Jul 17, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, not really how I read it.
Besides the lack of slugging, he is also below average in well hit balls (.219 vs league average of .234). He is high in putting the ball in play. So what you have is a hitter who puts weakly hit balls into play a lot. What has saved him this year is he has had great plate discipline, which is fairly new. Unfortunately he has been taking fewer and fewer walks every month. I’m not sure if this is lack of patience, or scouting reports that instruct pitchers to throw BP fastballs, because he is no threat to hit a ball hard.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 17, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lots of C's on Fukudome
I hope the first couple months of the season weren’t an abberation for this guy…we’ve got him for 3 more years…or is it 4?
Demp and Rich: proof that people that live in igloos and say "eh" can contibute!
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 17, 2008 10:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
3 after this. Although with his good defense and baserunning, I think he'll be the least
of our long contract headaches at that point.
by sackings108 on Jul 17, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure you're not calling
8 years-$126 Mil. a contract headache are you?
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 17, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not the way I read it.
He has a high ranking in quality at bats, clutch stats, 2 strike performance.and plate discipline.
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by californiachicagoan on Jul 17, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Fontenot
Sneak good!
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by californiachicagoan on Jul 17, 2008 12:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Balls put in play
I do not agree with the idea that the % of balls put in play is a good measure. Whats wrong with fouling off a few?
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by californiachicagoan on Jul 17, 2008 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
These take FOREVER to load.
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
by northsider on Jul 17, 2008 1:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe because we are all looking at them?
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 17, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're all looking at BCB and it does not take anywhere near this long.
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
by northsider on Jul 17, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Highest rated pitcher, Kerry Wood, Neal Cotts (!), and John Lieber (!!!)
Lieber does not have a single grade lower than a B- in any catagory or subcatagory.
Marshall grades out as high as Z or Demps or Marmol or Lilly (!).
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 17, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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