Why is our schedule so unbalanced?
So, I'm taking a look ahead at the rest of the schedule for the 2nd half of the season. Before I looked, I though to myself, "alright, we've been in St. Louis twice already this year and they haven't come to Chicago yet... perfect."
Then, I take a look at the schedule, and although we've played our first 6 games vs the Cards in St. Louis, we have 9 more to go... 6 at home (evening things out), but then the Cards get an advantageous 3 game set at home. Who the hell came up with that?
They couldn't at least make one of our home series a 4 game set, and reduce one in St Louis to a two game set... evening it out somewhat 8 games to 7? An extra 3 games is a big deal. What a bunch of BS.
Whatever happened to the days of the balanced schedule? For the last 5 years, our schedule vs the Cards has been uneven every year but one (2005).
2007, we went 11-5 vs the Cards, 7 at home and 9 in St. Louis
2006, we went 11-8 vs the Cards, 10 at home and 9 in St. Louis
2005, we went 10-6 vs the Cards, 8 at home and 8 in St. Louis
2004, we went 8-11 vs the Cards, 9 at home and 10 in St. Louis
2003, we went 8-9 vs the Cards, 10 at home and 7 in St. Louis
In 1996, the first full season after the strike, and the first full season after the re-alignment, we played 13 games a piece vs everyone in our division. At least we played the same number of games vs each division opponent, even though it was an odd number of games.
It used to be, in the days of the old NL East, that we would play 18 games a piece vs each of our division opponents. A perfectly even number, with no advantage.
The one to blame for this mess: Bud Selig. The man (who once tried to purchase the White Sox and move them to Milwaukee) becomes the commish... adds teams... re-aligns baseball... causes a strike... introduces interleague play and the unbalanced schedule... ignores steroids, and decides the all-star game should dictate home field advantage in the world series. Yeah... that's a great list you're building there.
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Every NL team has schedules like this.
Plius, I’m not sure how you see having six games vs. the Cardinals in Chicago and three in St. Louis an “advantage” for the Cardinals.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 17, 2008 11:00 AM CDT 0 recs
He's saying we've already played 6 in St. Louis, so that will be 9 there and 6 at Wrigley.
by sackings108 on
Jul 17, 2008 11:02 AM CDT
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Oh, I see.
Well… the Cubs split 6 games in St. Louis so far this year, which is pretty good for a road team in 2008.
Next year there will be more Cardinal games in Chicago. It alternates.
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by Al on
Jul 17, 2008 11:12 AM CDT
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Will there? Really?
Because the last 5 years shows it hasn’t “truly” alternated. The Cards had an extra 2 games last year.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on
Jul 17, 2008 11:16 AM CDT
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Given that...
... I think the schedule makers will give the Cubs the extra games in 2009.
Of course, we’re talking about the people who gave the Cubs a Chicago-Denver-Washington-Chicago-Cincinnati-St. Louis-Chicago itinerary over 17 days, so maybe not.
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by Al on
Jul 17, 2008 11:30 AM CDT
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Then of course....
The Chicago-Chicago(southside)-San Francisco-St. Louis-Chicago itinerary.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on
Jul 17, 2008 11:38 AM CDT
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And...
the Tampa night game to Chicago day game blunder.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on
Jul 17, 2008 12:05 PM CDT
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Preceded by
the Toronto to Cooperstown to Tamp trip—all in one day,
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by JohnM on
Jul 17, 2008 6:01 PM CDT
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And one year they had two series in AZ
Think it was ‘03. Six games in that occassionally-covered-up-sensory-overload-shit-hole.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on
Jul 17, 2008 8:48 PM CDT
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IIRC...
The Rays do that to quite a number of teams due to poor weekday attendance during the day.
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by NotSure on
Jul 18, 2008 9:51 PM CDT
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Agreed
Good teams don’t cry like babies about the schedule. Good teams shut up and go out to get the job done. Thankfully I have heard not one peep of whining out of the Cubs about the schedule. It is what it is. Just like the AL winning homefield advantage in the World Series is what it is. Shut up and take care of business.
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by MDBNIU on
Jul 17, 2008 11:16 AM CDT
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Spending a lot of time in the Clubhouse or something?
by princefieldersdiet on
Jul 17, 2008 11:17 AM CDT
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He played ball in College supposedly
which makes him attune to all things baseball in every way, shape and form. He knows more than you, just live with it.
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by DTJchris on
Jul 17, 2008 5:57 PM CDT
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he didnt play college ball
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by Hammer on
Jul 17, 2008 6:31 PM CDT
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one peep of whining?
like you’re close enough to hear their voices…
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on
Jul 17, 2008 12:54 PM CDT
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Maybe he's one of the infamous Wrigley Field rats.
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by dat cubfan daver on
Jul 17, 2008 1:25 PM CDT
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The answer to the unbalanced schedule is easy
Bud Selig is an idiot
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 17, 2008 11:04 AM CDT 0 recs
What's wrong with playing the teams in your division more, anyway?
I enjoy the games against the Cardinals or the Brewers. I think it’s more important to play them and really prove who deserves to win the division than to play the Nationals and Marlins 3 extra times a year.
by princefieldersdiet on
Jul 17, 2008 11:15 AM CDT
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We should be playing the same amount of even games vs each division opponent
Just like it used to be.
The way it is right now, would be the equivalent if the NFL decided to schedule the Bears vs Packers 3 times in one year, and have the Bears play the Vikings just once. That would be kind of stupid… wouldn’t it?
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on
Jul 17, 2008 11:20 AM CDT
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Yeah, I agree with you, so relax.
I think the teams should have an equal number of games home/away, I just like the unbalanced schedule in terms of playing the teams of your division more.
by princefieldersdiet on
Jul 17, 2008 11:23 AM CDT
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Well, they always used to play more division games anyway
In the 80’s, the Cubs played 18 games vs each opponent in the NL East. And then played 12 games vs each NL West team. That added up to 162.
Now, we don’t always get 18 games vs our division opponents. More often, we play less than 18… and occasionally (in the Cards case) we play 19.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on
Jul 17, 2008 11:31 AM CDT
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The difference is...
... in the NFL, all the divisions have the same number of teams. That isn’t the case in baseball, which is why you wind up with these wacky schedules.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jul 17, 2008 11:31 AM CDT
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Yes...
And we’re the only division with 6 teams. But, I still think each division in baseball should be playing the same, even number of games vs each division opponent. That should be priority #1 on the schedule making. Then, sort out the rest as evenly as possible.
Smaller divisions could be playing 18 games vs division opponents. The NL Central could be playing 16 games… then set aside your small package of interleague games… then league play.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on
Jul 17, 2008 11:42 AM CDT
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Hard to compare the football schedule to baseball...
those pansies only play once a week.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 17, 2008 12:07 PM CDT
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+1
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by wrigleyrocker12 on
Jul 17, 2008 4:14 PM CDT
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correct me if I’m wrong…but I swear that I read somewhere that an older-couple (husband and wife) employed by MLB make up the schedule each year.
again, this could be me confusing this with something else
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by IvyOnTheWall on Jul 17, 2008 11:37 AM CDT 0 recs
I thought this was the first year...
...that MLB used a computer, rather than human beings, to generate the schedule. Or did I dream this?
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by dat cubfan daver on
Jul 17, 2008 11:51 AM CDT
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Here’s a story about the couple who used to do the schedule.
I also direct you to this discussion here on BCB from April.
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by northsider on
Jul 17, 2008 11:56 AM CDT
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Right.
Thanks for posting that link. The Stephensons did a FAR better job. Hopefully, they will let this contract back out and hire someone who does it by hand again. Computers can plug in team names but don’t understand that Denver and Washington should not be on the same road trip.
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by Al on
Jul 17, 2008 1:25 PM CDT
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You'd think computers could be easily programmed to know that, though
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on
Jul 17, 2008 6:04 PM CDT
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You'd think.
But, apparently not.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jul 17, 2008 7:35 PM CDT
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Maybe we can program computers to
eliminate the DH and make all teams play the game of baseball.
Calm down.
by Kinky Reggae on
Jul 18, 2008 8:27 AM CDT
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The robots took over
Just like in the Matrix.
by SuperContext on
Jul 17, 2008 12:35 PM CDT
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It is the distant future...
...the Year 2000…the world is quite different ever since the robotic uprising of the late 90s.
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by dat cubfan daver on
Jul 17, 2008 1:29 PM CDT
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MLB=no logic.....unbalanced leagues, division and schedules
MLB must expand (but the trouble is lacking in talent) to 32 teams….16 each, one each for each league, move a NL to the AL (probably AZ or CO)...
I would add a team PR and Monteray MX….then realign to 4 divisions 4 teams each.
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by Ivy Walls on Jul 17, 2008 11:40 AM CDT 0 recs
It's no coincidence that
Bud Selig moved his Brewers to the NL… to take advantage of the Cubs fan base, generating more sell-outs in Milwaukee than they ever had before for a visiting team.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on
Jul 17, 2008 11:49 AM CDT
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While I like conspiracy theories...
the option to move to the NL was actually first offered to Kansas City. After they turned it down, it was offered to Milwaukee who took it.
by CubFan81 on
Jul 17, 2008 12:35 PM CDT
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that was a hollow offer, though
There was no question in MLB’s mind what was going to happen.
by Shanghai Badger on
Jul 17, 2008 3:53 PM CDT
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No need to add anymore teams.
Send Colorado to the AL West… and move Houston the the NL West…
30 teams… and 6 divisions of 5 teams.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on
Jul 17, 2008 11:53 AM CDT
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I don't know why they didn"t keep Houston in the West to begin with
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on
Jul 17, 2008 11:55 AM CDT
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Didn't you read? "MLB must expand".
But seriously, I like your idea.
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement. Fans like that are special." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
by northsider on
Jul 17, 2008 11:59 AM CDT
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If the Rockies moved to the AL West
They would still play a “Los Angeles” based team… the Angels, and they would still play a “Bay area” based team… the A’s. That would keep them playing in their biggest TV markets.
Then, they would get to go to Seattle and Texas.
When they play interleague… they would have some built-in yearly matchups that actually make sense… anyone of their former division rivals.
Then, the Astros could move back to their original division… the NL West
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on
Jul 17, 2008 12:06 PM CDT
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Plus...their park is taylor made for a DH.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 17, 2008 12:08 PM CDT
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If I'm ever commissioner, this will happen!
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
by northsider on
Jul 17, 2008 12:10 PM CDT
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by Bump Bailey on
Jul 17, 2008 12:12 PM CDT
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Brought to you by the great Belgian lager, Budweiser!
"It’s like they have 40,000 players on one team. Forty thousand people want to be in the dugout slapping fives. ‘Passionate’ is an understatement." -- Giants LHP Alex Hinshaw on Wrigley Field
by northsider on
Jul 17, 2008 12:14 PM CDT
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The problem with 30 teams in two leagues
Is that makes for 15 teams in each league, an odd number. Everyday would require either one team having an off day or an interleague game every day.
The whole thing would work better with 16 teams in each league each with 4 divisions of 4 teams
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by El Borto on
Jul 17, 2008 12:28 PM CDT
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Schedule interleague throughout...
And make more logical travel itineraries.
I don’t really see why all interleague games must take place during the same time. Plus, aside from the first “grand” weekend of interleague play… if they space out the interleague scheduling, they’ll get more prime games that don’t conflict with eachother.
For instance, currently, when the Yanks play the Mets… the Cubs are playing the Sox. If those series were taking place at different times, it would make for a better TV schedule.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on
Jul 17, 2008 12:40 PM CDT
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If you do that
You have 15 teams in each league, which necessitates interleague play or an offday for someone EVERY DAY
by Shanghai Badger on
Jul 17, 2008 3:55 PM CDT
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Unless there is unlimited number of interleague games
this cannot work since each league has an odd number teams. Except during interleague play, there would always be at least one team in each league not playing on a specific day; a mammoth scheduling logistics nightmare.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on
Jul 17, 2008 8:41 PM CDT
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There are already too many teams
The talent level in this league is horribly watered down. The National League absolutely sucks right now.
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by MDBNIU on
Jul 17, 2008 12:08 PM CDT
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SWL, if you ever do a version 2.0 of the See 'n Say...
...you should definitely put “The National League sucks!” on it.
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by dat cubfan daver on
Jul 17, 2008 12:18 PM CDT
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along with PITCHING IS KING! and WOOD'S ARM IS A TIMEBOMB!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 17, 2008 12:45 PM CDT
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that's "ticking timebomb"
good sir…
My timebomb TICKS.
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by drewishdrewid on
Jul 17, 2008 12:56 PM CDT
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you better hope it ticks...
because we obviously know what happens when it doesn’t.
by CubFan81 on
Jul 17, 2008 1:23 PM CDT
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it's tough to do so well
when you already have the best record in baseball.
Wait, what?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on
Jul 17, 2008 12:56 PM CDT
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Same NL that took the all star game into 15 against the ever powerful AL?
Just making sure.
Calm down.
by Kinky Reggae on
Jul 18, 2008 8:28 AM CDT
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Puerto Rico & Mexico?
Not a chance. The economy in those places won’t support a major league team. Plus, YOU try getting English-speaking ballplayers to want to live in Mexico for six months during the baseball season. (Yes, I know it’d be easier for the Spanish-speakers, and that’s not a slam on Mexico, just being realistic).
There are virtually no cities left in North America that could support major league baseball that don’t already have a team.
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by Al on
Jul 17, 2008 1:27 PM CDT
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What about Montreal?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 17, 2008 1:41 PM CDT
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You're joking, right?
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by Al on
Jul 17, 2008 1:44 PM CDT
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Or how about San Diego? They don't have a Major League team...
this year.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 17, 2008 1:52 PM CDT
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vegas?
C.C.+Feilder+Gagne=The brewers just ran out of XXXL Jerseys
by jds2 on
Jul 17, 2008 1:45 PM CDT
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actually
I’ve always kind of wondered why there’s no big-league team in Indiana. Or, for that matter, something in Utah.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on
Jul 17, 2008 1:50 PM CDT
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Salt Lake City is too small.
Indianapolis is too close to both Chicago and Cincinnati and is filled with either Cubs fans or Reds fans.
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by Al on
Jul 17, 2008 2:44 PM CDT
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Too close?
I get your point about the fans of Reds and Cubs (there’s a fair amount of Cards and Sox fans too). But, Indy to Chicago is 3.5 hours. Indy to Cinci is closer, at 2 hours. Besides, what did Washington do when the Nationals moved there? Everyone there was Oriole fans, right?
It might surprise some people, but Indianapolis is the 12th largest metro area in the nation. I think we could support a team here.
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by Bildo1805 on
Jul 17, 2008 3:01 PM CDT
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At what stadium?
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by Al on
Jul 17, 2008 4:02 PM CDT
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they're building a new football field, aren't they?
it’s a time-honored tradition.
Or, they could build up the very nice minor league stadium they have already, I guess. It’s right near the parking for the basketball arena, too.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on
Jul 17, 2008 8:49 PM CDT
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Um...
Conseco Fieldhouse is on the other side of downtown from Victory Field. That said, it’s walkable.
Maybe it’s close in Chicago terms :)
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