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First Pitch Thread: Cubs vs. Astros, Friday 7/18, 7:05 CT

'Bout time. PLAY BALL!!

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thirst-

-ty for a Cubs victory!

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hint, hint...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

c'mon people - I'm dying here...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hammer, Cwyers and Blue Mike walk into a bar...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this thing on?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

budweiser and chew here

only because that’s what the major leaguers do

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

....

waiting for the punch(line that is)

by tootle on Jul 18, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh boy

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like the place is empty.

what’s up with that?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 18, 2008 7:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ah... thankyou,thankyou,thankyou...

I think I’ll have a beer! ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just had some

home made sugar cookies.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet!

the cookies, I mean. Oh what the heck – you too… ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL! thanks

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok lets take a few boys

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on Jul 18, 2008 7:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

twss

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 18, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yuck

take a few guys

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

5 pitches? yeesh

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on Jul 18, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ugh...

what happened to patience?

by tootle on Jul 18, 2008 7:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn HMOs...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

over/under

10 pitches next inning?

C.C.+Feilder+Gagne=The brewers just ran out of XXXL Jerseys

by jds2 on Jul 18, 2008 7:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

just for the cubs

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by jds2 on Jul 18, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT

I hope everyone is off to see THE DARK KNIGHT. Saw it at 1201 last night, it was simply stunning. Heath. Owns. This. Movie. Make’s Jack’s Joker look like child’s play. The storylines are excellent, the acting is superb (re: Maggie > Katie), and Two-Face’s transgression is something to be in awe of.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 18, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think there's a BCB sub-plot in there just waiting to be revealed come playoffs...

The Dark Cub….

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, because "The Dark Knight"...

...references the transgression from “The White Knight” to “The Dark Knight”...don’t we always want to be the cinderella story or TWK?

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 18, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good job...

...this is the first major motion picture to be filmed in IMAX, rather than converted later to the bigger screen. The Hong Kong scenes probably benefit mostly from IMAX; it’s simply sprawling.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 18, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saw the 12:01 showing myself

The Dark Knight is incredible. You are absolutely right about Ledger completely outdoing Nicholson in the Joker department, one of the best performances ever. The Hospital exit scene? Chilling.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 18, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't remember the last time a villian...

...actually sent chills down my spine. Chigurh in No Country For Old Men, maybe. But Ledger’s Joker is both plausible AND surreal.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 18, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

over/under

number of times they show jimmys ballgame catch on the hill – 1

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

roof open?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 18, 2008 7:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nope

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thx

Houston in the summer has to be brutal…

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 18, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matsui K'd

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 18, 2008 7:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

routine catch by Dome...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Berkman

lines out to Riot.

10 pitches for Lilly.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 18, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

14 total pitches in one inning...

C.C.+Feilder+Gagne=The brewers just ran out of XXXL Jerseys

by jds2 on Jul 18, 2008 7:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hill still pitching in the minor-league game?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 18, 2008 7:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep - at least through 4.

4ip 4h, 2r, 1er, 1bb, 6k

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah.

thru 4: 1 BB/ 6 K/ 4 Hits/ 2 ER

by sackings108 on Jul 18, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not exactly driving up his pitch-count.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 18, 2008 7:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd love to

see Geo hit another in-the-park homerun. :D

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i'm just glad he's seeing some pitches

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by jds2 on Jul 18, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

can anyone explain to me why the hill in houston is named that?

don’t know how to spell it, sounds like towels hill?

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tal's Hill

tribute to Tal Smith(?) I believe.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pretty fast and loose with the term tribute

C.C.+Feilder+Gagne=The brewers just ran out of XXXL Jerseys

by jds2 on Jul 18, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, didn't know if he was still alive or not.

either way, it’s a pretty stupid tribute. still can’t believe nobody’s broke an ankle or torn an ACL yet out there.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

tribute to some writer I think

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on Jul 18, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

quick search says

ballhawk is right…..tal smith was a sports writer turn gm/president that turned around the stros

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

from the MInute Maid Park wikipedia entry...

“Fielding is a challenge there as well, due to the 90-foot wide, 30-degree incline grade, known as Tal’s Hill, for team president Tal Smith, an element taken from Crosley Field and other historic ballparks (in a bit of gallows humor, the hill is also known as the “Grassy Knoll”),”

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whatever the case

it’s a ridiculous idea and is a slippery slope for future major league parks…..whats next, sand traps and water hazards?

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

That and that stupid flag pole.

by sackings108 on Jul 18, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to agree

Never have liked the hill. Its like having wind mills out there.

by jajonez77 on Jul 18, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there is a water hazard at Tropicana Field...

a water tank full of mutant manta rays in deep right center. too bad it’s not in play…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

to play devils advocate

wrigley has the warmup mounds really close to the foul line and the’re were some older parks with pretty crazy demensions and stuff (polo grounds and the collosium) in the past

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by jds2 on Jul 18, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That brings to mind

The train tracks running through the outfield in Brewsters Millions. Damn, what a fine film LOL

by jajonez77 on Jul 18, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wasn't there a ballpark that actually had a train track very close by

and would have to stop games while the train went through because it destracted the batters

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by jds2 on Jul 18, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, Shea always seems to have low flight patterns from LaGuardia (JFK?) that play havoc with the uninitiated

and I know of a certain ballpark on the North side of Chicago that is prone to some aerial buzzing the third weekend in August…

And then there was the real “buzzing’ last year in Cleveland during the ALDS against the Yankees. Take that Joba!

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Safeco in Seattle has trains right outside the outfield fence

But they don’t stop the game. You get used to them.

by mikeinseattle on Jul 18, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

then there's the swimming pool at the BoB in Arizona, but I wouldn't exactly call that a hazard

unless you’re out there during a “boy’s night out” and you run into a bunch of girls enjoying a “girls night out” and your wife/girlfriend is watching the game on TV…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

frickin Padres blow good scoring chance in the 1st, man they suck

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on Jul 18, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good AB

But no cigar

"Lou is not talking about mechanics when he goes out to the mound,"
~Larry Rothschild

by Unrestricted View on Jul 18, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That was very nice.

I hadn’t heard he has passed until now.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it just me or does

Hunter Pence look like a guy that you would see tending the counter at a 7-11 and not a big league Baseball player? He seems a little awkward is all…

by jajonez77 on Jul 18, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

at least he lost the knee highs

that always made him look more awkward if you ask me

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice K

Guess Lilly has Pence’s number

"Lou is not talking about mechanics when he goes out to the mound,"
~Larry Rothschild

by Unrestricted View on Jul 18, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Question and an Obvervation:

1) I just turned the TV on and joined the thread. For those of you watching on WGN (I assume most of you) is the audio all screwed up? I hear a lot of hissing in the background. It sounds awful and is really annoying (I don’t think Joe Morgan is in the booth, so it can’t be that).

2) The Astros pitcher doesn’t look like he’s throwing a whole lot of off-speed stuff, and is just trying to throw it right down the pipe. We ought to be able to hit this guy hard at some point.

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 18, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sounds fine here

WGN feed, that is.

"Lou is not talking about mechanics when he goes out to the mound,"
~Larry Rothschild

by Unrestricted View on Jul 18, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2-0 stl

HGH drove in pujos and glaus

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by jds2 on Jul 18, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hgh haha

that always shuts up my cards friends…...but i have to admit, he has a CANNON

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea...

i hate how ESPN always does the Ankeil came back from being a bad pitcher story line but never talk about his HGH suspension…

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by jds2 on Jul 18, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

great sig....

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Jul 18, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i hear

more feedback from the audience, but overall nothing really different in the audio…

I was thinking the same thing after the first, that we should be able to nail this guy

by cubs2410 on Jul 18, 2008 7:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Edmonds couldn't resist the unneeded jump onto the wall could he?

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on Jul 18, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well, it looked like there wasn't enough room...

...for him to dive! ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oswalt

i think he’s the dark horse candidate that will be traded this year…...i predict to the yankees

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

greene HR

2-1 Stl

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by jds2 on Jul 18, 2008 7:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hill is out.

Final Line:

4.1 IP/ 6 K/ 3 BB

Really flaked out at the end, leaves the bases loaded for the relief pitcher.

by sackings108 on Jul 18, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he allowed 3 so far, and left with the bases loaded

so possibly 6, depending on how the relievers do.

by sackings108 on Jul 18, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and that reliever would be Phelps...

“Your mission, Mr. Phelps, should you choose to accept it…”

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fontenot

is done after his tear last week

by cubs2410 on Jul 18, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

quite possible. I don't understand why they bring up Hoffpauir and don't put him in left and DeRosa at 2nd

Unless they really think Fontenot is a better hitter than Hoffpauir. Because either way you have bad left field defense.

by sackings108 on Jul 18, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hoffpauir is a bad fielder

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 18, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just one AB

besides took more pitches than the first inning

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by jds2 on Jul 18, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it is nice to be back on a game thread

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 18, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

why does everyone sit next to ward?

anyone hear len talking about hoff and murton always being right next to ward

by cubs2410 on Jul 18, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, and Micah looked great cracking that big yawn while he was on camera.

Maybe Ward is keeping him up.

Yeah to go Riot!

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 18, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

to learn the ways of getting 2 ABs a week?

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by jds2 on Jul 18, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Based on some interactions at Cubs Convention...

Daaaaaaaryle seems to be a really cool guy.

by KatoRx on Jul 18, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There you go Riot!

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 18, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

55 walks for dome.

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ANNNND Unfortunately.

Rich Hill’s Final Line:

4.1 IP/ 6 ER/6 K/ 3 BB

by sackings108 on Jul 18, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

im not surprised

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 18, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

he won’t be back in the Bigs for a while, much less the Cubs.

"Lou is not talking about mechanics when he goes out to the mound,"
~Larry Rothschild

by Unrestricted View on Jul 18, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

thats in A ball

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

to be fair. he pitched very well until the fifth.

up until the 5th he had 6 K/ 1 BB/ 2 ER. then he loaded the bases, was taken out, and the reliever let all 3 in.

by sackings108 on Jul 18, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously Mr. Phelps chose not to accept his mission...

...and the line score self-destructed in 5 seconds….

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you look at it that way, then you might as well not make a distinction between earned and unearned runs.

which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. I get tired of seeing a pitcher let the floodgates open up after a 2 out error and the pitcher gets away scot-free w.r.t. to his ERA because of that error. I assume somewhere there is an adjusted ERA stat that somebody has figured out to track?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought he was on his way

perhaps I was hasty.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 18, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow, hard to see making an impact in the majors this year, if ever

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on Jul 18, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

GEEZE, relax folks.

he pitched pretty well minus one inning.

by sackings108 on Jul 18, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

its single A

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on Jul 18, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

All that matters

Is his strike percentage. He’s working on his stuff, not (specifically) trying to get everyone out

Zambrano viciously attacked a pair of watercoolers for the crime of being within his line of vision. It was a classic battle of man versus inanimate object.

by berselius on Jul 18, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dome better get his act together

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 18, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fukudome last 10 games

.182 with 12 K’s and only 3 walks.

"Lou is not talking about mechanics when he goes out to the mound,"
~Larry Rothschild

by Unrestricted View on Jul 18, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

think he needs to be dropped in the order

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on Jul 18, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

brenly

what? he managed in the major leagues before? i have neeeeeeever heard that before….and thus the reason i HATE him as a commentator

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree since most of them are past players or managers

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

who would you rather have?

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't mind

him at all.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually like him.

And Len Kasper is such an improvement over Chip Caray it’s sick.

by sackings108 on Jul 18, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, I

like both Len and Bob.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i always like chip.....A LOT.....but i know i'm in the minority

with that said, len has grown on me and i really like him now

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

all chip did was yell and scream. over everything. it really was annoying.

by sackings108 on Jul 18, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the weird thing is

in my group of friends we all agree that we hate brenly and wish chip and stoney was back….but on here i’m the only one that thinks that

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe you need new friends???

I KID, I KID!!! ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Bob

He seems like a real baseball guy. Tells a decent story here and there. Shows some personality. Just my opinion.

by jajonez77 on Jul 18, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just hate hearing his dbacks stories

i’m jealous and i don’t want to hear about another team winning the world series

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maddux hands the run back to the Cards

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on Jul 18, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ugh. that bites

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think perry needs to work with dome

I doubt Perry has done much with Dome this year, I think its time to step in and get his confidence back

by cubs2410 on Jul 18, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's quite possible Dome just isn't as good as we all thought.

He’s fundamentally sound, but he’s probably somewhere around a .275 hitter with 10 HR a year. Which is not worth what he’s paid.

by sackings108 on Jul 18, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Easier said than done

But he needs to lay off the breakers low and outside. The league has adjusted to him, and he needs to readjust.

"Lou is not talking about mechanics when he goes out to the mound,"
~Larry Rothschild

by Unrestricted View on Jul 18, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i like brenly

very informative and honest

by cubs2410 on Jul 18, 2008 7:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he's no cup cake either...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ewww

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he can hit

and he’s got those four All-Star apperances and the World Series championship and all…

"Lou is not talking about mechanics when he goes out to the mound,"
~Larry Rothschild

by Unrestricted View on Jul 18, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great

Pie’s fast. He can run all day. In Iowa. Maybe if he runs fast enough he can look at one of Jim Edmonds eight Gold Gloves.

"Lou is not talking about mechanics when he goes out to the mound,"
~Larry Rothschild

by Unrestricted View on Jul 18, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The statement was: Edmonds didn't run too fast to get to that ball.

Whatever your talking about has nothing to do with anything. Nobody is saying that Pie has/will have a better career, or that he’s even better right now. All I said was that he’s faster than Edmonds. You’re really building a strawman.

by sackings108 on Jul 18, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Edmonds is 38...

...and won’t be winning any more Gold Gloves. He’s not a good center fielder anymore, and the fact that he can still hit shouldn’t make it impossible to mention that fact.

by cwyers on Jul 18, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

in regards to the above conversation

how on Earth do you support HIll this much, when he hasnt been able to show he has the mentality to remain in the bigs, yea he did good last year, look before that (He was extremely inconsistent according to memory, i look up the numbers if necessary) and look now, he cant even pitch in the minors… I dont care if its one inning, it lost them the game didnt it… but somehow you hate Theriot who has proven pretty much the exact opposite, how do you come to these conclusions… honestly

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 18, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill and Theriot are extremely different cases.

And liking one/disliking the other is not exclusive. Rich Hill has legit talent, as showcased all last year, and he dominated many teams last year. Ryan Theriot, on the other hand, is good at getting on base, but horrible at everything else. I’m not sure why you want to bring this up, or how the two are related.

by sackings108 on Jul 18, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

reed and ryan talking.

too much scrappyness in one place.

by sackings108 on Jul 18, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

DLee has had 2 AB and swung at the first pitch both times.

I love the man, but maybe he thinks that he HAS to swing at the first pitch?

Admittedly, in his first AB, he really hit the ball well, and just hit it right at someone.

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 18, 2008 7:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just tuned in

Seems like our boys aren’t making Moehler work very hard.

"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI

by sweetswinger on Jul 18, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope, they really aren't.

At least Lilly seems to have his good stuff tonight though.

by jajonez77 on Jul 18, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No kidding.

I’m trying to watch and make dinner. Usually, I miss an ab or two while I’m doing something. Tonight, I’m missing whole innings!

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 18, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Usually I miss an ab or six when I'm doing sit-ups...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too

when i’m doing 12oz curls

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you do sit ups often during games?

or are we talking curls?

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

welll......

I sit-up to go get another beer. Does that count?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good news bad news

good news is lilly tearing through the lineup…..bad news we won’t get into the stros bullpen at this pace

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 8:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

not much patience

moehler is throwing strikes, give him credit, but were hitting the ball right at people, we need to be patient and wait for their pitch

by cubs2410 on Jul 18, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Correction about Hill:

only 5 of the runs were earned. Not much better, but still.

by sackings108 on Jul 18, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

As a reminder...

...minor league fields are very poorly maintained, as are minor league defenses. View this like a rehab start. Process is more important than results.

by cwyers on Jul 18, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"Lou is not talking about mechanics when he goes out to the mound,"
~Larry Rothschild

by Unrestricted View on Jul 18, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

tws.... nah

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not sure

saw it on the scoreboard at minutemaid when edmonds was catching the last out

by cubs2410 on Jul 18, 2008 8:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

11 more games against the astros

we HAVE to take advantage of that…..hopefully they will be sellers

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 8:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you Houston

For making those Crawford Boxes

"Lou is not talking about mechanics when he goes out to the mound,"
~Larry Rothschild

by Unrestricted View on Jul 18, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WOOHOO 1-0

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

jimmy!

time to call my dad and tell him to stop hating

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

belteddddddddddd

goneeeeeeeeee

Dear SBnation, We need our own server here at BCB seeing how its became very slow due to enormous amounts of traffic. P.S. Impeach Bud Selig!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jul 18, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No WGN here (upstate NY)

Following on Gameday while watching “In the Heat of the Night” on TCM w/ my wife. Great movie, which I haven’t seen for years.Better than having to watch Dome swing, I gather.

"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI

by sweetswinger on Jul 18, 2008 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

6 hr

edmonds has against moehler

by cubs2410 on Jul 18, 2008 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

clearly married life hasn't affected his power...

(wait for it…)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

twss

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ding! ding! ding!

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I spend way too much time here lol

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're glad you do!

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

awww ty

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yw

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you also

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

with a nice slide.

"Lou is not talking about mechanics when he goes out to the mound,"
~Larry Rothschild

by Unrestricted View on Jul 18, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fonty!

just barely a double

"I'm like the tide baby: I come and go as I please." --Johnny Drama

by cubs2234 on Jul 18, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fonty almost

made a homer and then almost got out.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ha! new nickname for Fonty

“Stealth Bomber”

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

twss

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 18, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO @ cocknfire

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm so confused

but i’ll smile and nod like i know what you all are talking about

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, I'll tell you for real

That’s What She Said. A running joke picked up from the Office

by cocknfire on Jul 18, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

psst...cubswynn

it’s an acronym for “that’s what she said”

by sackings108 on Jul 18, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

too funny - your comment is a prime candidate for a twss

especially for all the lincoln park trixies here in chicago

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 18, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or twyhss

“giggles evilly”

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

altho once in a while we get creative with them

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny story

So I thought back on opening day of tickets onsale in Feb. that I had bought tickets for Aug.1. This morning I go to look at my tickets to see what seats I had, and find out that I didnt buy Aug 1 but bought next Friday July 25th, whew I am glad I looked today… I would have been pissed If I had looked afterwards

by cubs2410 on Jul 18, 2008 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kosuke

This’d be a great time to break out of it.

"Lou is not talking about mechanics when he goes out to the mound,"
~Larry Rothschild

by Unrestricted View on Jul 18, 2008 8:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Come Bob and Len.....

Ryan is just SCRAPPY!!

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 18, 2008 8:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BB to Riot

Could have been intentional?

"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI

by sweetswinger on Jul 18, 2008 8:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Looks like Kosuke is taking his eye off the ball while he's swinging....

Of course, if I knew what I was doing, I’d be in MLB as opposed to hanging out on here typing away!

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 18, 2008 8:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Edmond's new bride

Wonder if she’s in the crowd. I’m looking for a girl w/ a nice tooth.

Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.

by Jayo525 on Jul 18, 2008 8:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

or

hair on her lip

by cubs2410 on Jul 18, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

twss

haha i love it…...and the office

how would i describe myself…..3 words…..hard working, alpha-male, jackhammer

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

important rule... you c ant twss yourself

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At the risk of sounding totally ignorant....

which is easy for me to do, what does TWSS mean?

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 18, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

read up a few posts

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

duh

you don’t know…...what a loser (read above posts)

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWSS = that's what she said

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 18, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yw

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWsueS

Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.

by Jayo525 on Jul 18, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we might be the only females in here tonight.

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think so too.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wasn't! i promise!

it sounds like to me it’s like when a guy gives himself a nickname he automatically is called sheet stain

by cubswynn on Jul 18, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have any of you guys seen the BBC Office?

It’s great. I actually prefer it to the US one.

by sackings108 on Jul 18, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

whose this joba.... is he a starting pitcher????????

lol

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, he is now

he started the year as a reliever but than moved to the rotation. In fact, it was such an important move, ESPN had a 48 hour around the clock Joba watch in effect. I’m surprised you didn’t know, it was one of those, “where were you when you first heard…” kind of things.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 18, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's actually already in the hall of fame.

ESPN lobbied them to make an exception.

by sackings108 on Jul 18, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the Hall of Fame

what a travesty! There needs to be a Hall of Joba

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 18, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was sarcasm on my part.

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, yes indeed

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 18, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well he said he was surprised I didnt know.

so I wasnt sure if it came thro or not “shrugs”

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

amen !

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 18, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fukudome's stats by place in batting order

1 – .260 avg.
2 – .133 (Yikes)
4 – .273
5 – .316

I think he needs to move back down in the order.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 18, 2008 8:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, please.

Last I remember we were doing just fine w/ him at 5 and Theriot at 2.

Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.

by Jayo525 on Jul 18, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Riot

That’s my choice. I know, the haters will rip, but we were doing just fine with Sori-Riot as the 1-2

by cocknfire on Jul 18, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I won't rip

I’ll just say that I think that a guy w/ Theriot’s skills is better suited to bat 8th, and turn the lineup over.

by sackings108 on Jul 18, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't be opposed to RJ there

I think it’s more important to get Dome comfortable. Worry about who’s No. 2 then

by cocknfire on Jul 18, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my only prob with that.... the number of cub dps seems to go up**

*note I am not a sabermagician so I dont have stats to support that lol

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My prob w/ that is

Who should be blamed for that? The man who gets on first. Or the one who hits into the DP? B/C isn’t Dome just as likely to get on base? Or at least should be.

Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.

by Jayo525 on Jul 18, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like it

Theriot at the top of the order. He gets on base, does little things, hits to the right side of the field, it good in my opinion.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 18, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

5 K's for Lilly

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 18, 2008 8:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Overflow up

here

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 18, 2008 8:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

new thread guys...

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 18, 2008 8:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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