Pregame Thread: Cubs vs. Giants, Wednesday 7/2, 9:15 CT
Chicago @ San Francisco
Barry Rozner reminds us to not panic during tough times and that:
Back in 1984, Cubs players talked often of winning day home games and having their division opponents see that on the scoreboard by the time they took the field that night, adding pressure to keep pace.
So while players sometimes complain about playing day games during the heat of the summer in Chicago, the heat of the pennant race also is a factor.
"We have a lot of confidence at home no matter what time we play," said Cubs manager Lou Piniella. "But I could see that being a part of it. It's nice to put that 'W' up there early in the day, and letting the other (teams) chase it."
The Cubs are 33-10 (.767) at home this year, their best start ever at Wrigley Field, and are 20-7 (.741) during the day.
When they get home next Tuesday, the Cubs will play 38 of their final 73 at home, including at least 24 under the sun.
Exactly. And this has been, for the most part, a cooler-than-average summer so far.
Sean Marshall will start this weekend against the Cardinals because their lineup is loaded with lefthanded hitters, and after that a decision will be made on whether he stays or goes back to Iowa.
And, more perspective: if you are worried, keep in mind that the Red Sox have now lost five straight in Tampa and are 2.5 games behind them, in danger of being swept there twice in the same season. Feel better now?
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Kevin Correia has been mostly a reliever in his career before joining the Giants' rotation fulltime this year. Lifetime against the Cubs he's allowed four runs in two innings in four relief appearances. Jim Edmonds (2-for-5, both doubles) is the only Cub who has more than two lifetime plate appearances vs. the Cubs. The Cubs did smack Correia around pretty good in this year's first spring training game on February 28; Mike Fontenot hit a three-run HR off him that day.
Ryan Dempster is coming off his worst start of the season -- he had been amazingly consistent in his previous 16 outings, so let's count that one as an aberration. His 0-6, 5.40 record in 7 career starts vs. the Giants is pretty meaningless, as all seven of those were in 2003 or before, and there's no one left on the Giants from those days. Rich Aurilia is 8-for-19 against him, but he's handled Randy Winn easily (1-for-17, 5 strikeouts).
Today's game is on cable in Chicago and in the Bay Area, on EI and at the MLB.com Mediacenter.
MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)
MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Today's first-pitch thread posts at 9:15 pm CT and, way past my bedtime, the overflow comment threads will post at 10:15 and 11:15 pm CT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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With Lincecum going tomorrow THIS is the game Cubs have to win
Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum are outstanding young pitchers. Cubs must beat up on this nomadic character on the mound tonight.
Pitching is KING. We don't add a frontline starting pitcher and a quality bullpen arm then this season will have yet another sad conclusion.
by MDBNIU on Jul 2, 2008 6:03 PM CDT 0 recs
"nomadic character"?
what does that even MEAN?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on
Jul 2, 2008 7:02 PM CDT
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Actually, I rather liked that description.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jul 2, 2008 7:02 PM CDT
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well, ok
but I still don’t know what it MEANS.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on
Jul 2, 2008 7:03 PM CDT
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I'm learning towards
journeyman.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 2, 2008 7:05 PM CDT
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Learning towards
The guy friggin sucks.
Light him up like a Christmas Tree
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Thats deep to left.....back back back HEY HEY!!! he did it attaboy Jimmy!!!!! woooooooo!!! tie game!! Thats for you Jack" Len Kasper 6/12/08
by Galvan316 on
Jul 2, 2008 7:09 PM CDT
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heh
well. or you could take that route. i was just telling drew what i thought blue mike was aiming for.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 2, 2008 7:10 PM CDT
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he moves around a lot
no·mad·ic [noh-mad-ik] –adjective
of, pertaining to, or characteristic of nomads.
no·mad [noh-mad] –noun
1. a member of a people or tribe that has no permanent abode but moves about from place to place, usually seasonally and often following a traditional route or circuit according to the state of the pasturage or food supply.
char·ac·ter [kar-ik-ter] –noun
1. the aggregate of features and traits that form the individual nature of some person or thing.
Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 26-18 (.591)
Edmonds with Cubs: .282 / .370 / .563
by joeschmitt on
Jul 2, 2008 8:30 PM CDT
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CORREIA
LIGHT EM UP
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Jul 2, 2008 6:07 PM CDT 0 recs
The rumors of your death...
were greatly exaggerated.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 2, 2008 6:08 PM CDT
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Dirty rotten shame too
Pitching is KING. We don't add a frontline starting pitcher and a quality bullpen arm then this season will have yet another sad conclusion.
by MDBNIU on
Jul 2, 2008 6:13 PM CDT
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out. of. line.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 2, 2008 6:17 PM CDT
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could be worse
....well not really. BUT, I could be misrepresenting myself as a former All MAC college baseball player which is hilariously false.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Jul 2, 2008 6:26 PM CDT
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Sigh...
Count that as my first and last response to you.
Pitching is KING. We don't add a frontline starting pitcher and a quality bullpen arm then this season will have yet another sad conclusion.
by MDBNIU on
Jul 2, 2008 6:28 PM CDT
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It ain't the first...
and funny enough…it’s not the fist time you’ve even told him that…so we all doubt it will be the last.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 2, 2008 6:29 PM CDT
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Just another case of his....
......(well insert many different words_
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Jul 2, 2008 6:30 PM CDT
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Would you like me to prove it?
In respect to Al, I wont.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Jul 2, 2008 6:29 PM CDT
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entertainment
MDBNIU brings some entertainment to the board….it gets boring having everyone with the same opinion. Sure most of his opinions are wrong but he has a right to be wrong :)
by jeff_pico on
Jul 2, 2008 6:32 PM CDT
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ha.....
You’re right….he’s the Eddie Haskell of the board
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Jul 2, 2008 6:33 PM CDT
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No, I'd love for you to prove that I didn't play b-ball at NIU in the early 80's
Because that would be a might revelation to myself. What was I doing those three years when I thought I was playing for Walt Owens at NIU in the early 80’s?
Pitching is KING. We don't add a frontline starting pitcher and a quality bullpen arm then this season will have yet another sad conclusion.
by MDBNIU on
Jul 2, 2008 6:38 PM CDT
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please see post above---or ill do it for it
“Sigh…
Count that as my first and last response to you”
The lying never stops…..
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Jul 2, 2008 6:41 PM CDT
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He's was just giving you a warning...
the last time he told you that.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 2, 2008 6:43 PM CDT
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and the answer to what was your rhetorical question is
.......drinking (and heavily)
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Jul 2, 2008 6:42 PM CDT
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NIU
I don’t know why do we have any reason to believe MDBNIU didn’t pitch at NIU? Sure he’s shown trollish behavoir and never seems to happy when the Cubs win, only when the losses support his theories that most of the players suck lol
by jeff_pico on
Jul 2, 2008 6:45 PM CDT
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Sigh..
Freshman year - utility infielder
Sophomore year - 2nd baseman
Junior year—2nd baseman
Program was disbanded after my junior season. I graduated from NIU in 1985. NIU baseball was resurrected once again in the 90’s.
Pitching is KING. We don't add a frontline starting pitcher and a quality bullpen arm then this season will have yet another sad conclusion.
by MDBNIU on
Jul 2, 2008 6:48 PM CDT
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You were that bad?
The had to disband the entire program? Ouch.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 2, 2008 6:53 PM CDT
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the equipment manager lost his job.....
TEAR
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Jul 2, 2008 6:55 PM CDT
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Is this going to turn out to be
A MDBNIU vs Hammer panty tussle fight?
Because we have already seen those before….
BORING
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Thats deep to left.....back back back HEY HEY!!! he did it attaboy Jimmy!!!!! woooooooo!!! tie game!! Thats for you Jack" Len Kasper 6/12/08
by Galvan316 on
Jul 2, 2008 6:56 PM CDT
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ha....ask and you shall receive
(receive=I before E except after C)
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Jul 2, 2008 6:57 PM CDT
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reading is fundamental
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 2, 2008 6:58 PM CDT
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Question
The only question I have for MDBNIU is what Cubs player DOES he like? Whats been his all time happiest moment as a Cubs fan?
by jeff_pico on
Jul 2, 2008 6:59 PM CDT
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Everything you need to know..
can be found here.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 2, 2008 7:00 PM CDT
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Answers
Favorite all time .. Bill Buckner
Current top favorite … Mark DeRosa
Players I like … Aramis Ramirez (best run producer the Cubs have had since Andre Dawson), Ryan Theriot, Derrek Lee, Geovany Soto, Jim Edmonds, Reed Johnson, Kosuke Fukudome, Ryan Dempster, Ted Lilly, Carlos Zambrano, Sean Gallagher, Kerry Wood, Carlos Marmol, Neal Cotts.
Pitching is KING. We don't add a frontline starting pitcher and a quality bullpen arm then this season will have yet another sad conclusion.
by MDBNIU on
Jul 2, 2008 7:02 PM CDT
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Neal Cotts?
One question…
Why?
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Thats deep to left.....back back back HEY HEY!!! he did it attaboy Jimmy!!!!! woooooooo!!! tie game!! Thats for you Jack" Len Kasper 6/12/08
by Galvan316 on
Jul 2, 2008 7:03 PM CDT
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He's a battler
Every player I like doesn’t have to be great. On the reverse side I hate Alfonso Soriano, yet legitimate argument can be made over the wondrous nature of his statistics printed on the backs of bubblegum cards.
Pitching is KING. We don't add a frontline starting pitcher and a quality bullpen arm then this season will have yet another sad conclusion.
by MDBNIU on
Jul 2, 2008 7:06 PM CDT
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Sir
I dont know you very well, Im still new to this site well relatively new I’d say.
But that was probably the stupidest answer I have ever gotten to a baseball question ever.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Thats deep to left.....back back back HEY HEY!!! he did it attaboy Jimmy!!!!! woooooooo!!! tie game!! Thats for you Jack" Len Kasper 6/12/08
by Galvan316 on
Jul 2, 2008 7:07 PM CDT
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FTW!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on
Jul 2, 2008 7:13 PM CDT
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For
The
Win
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on
Jul 2, 2008 7:17 PM CDT
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learnt something new
actually, much like we turned Cedeno into ONEDEC!, I thought FTW was the opposite of WTF…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on
Jul 2, 2008 7:22 PM CDT
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Or...F*** the World!
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on
Jul 2, 2008 8:21 PM CDT
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Google is your friend...
but it means: For the Win
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 2, 2008 7:17 PM CDT
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too lazy to google
i checked the BCB ditctionary. sorry for the stupid question.
by BradB311 on
Jul 2, 2008 7:18 PM CDT
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okay well firefox is your friend
ya highlight it and then right click and it says “search google for” whatever it was you’ve highlited.. pop goes new tab and you have ANSWERS.
lol
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 2, 2008 7:19 PM CDT
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well i guess
i learn somethin new everyday. I’m at work with an old version of IE
by BradB311 on
Jul 2, 2008 7:21 PM CDT
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yuck
i can’t do IE.
i’m sorry if that came off as all smartassy. Didn’t mean for it to.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 2, 2008 7:23 PM CDT
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However,
Firefox has more security issues than IE, Opera, and Safari combined. Just sayin..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Jul 2, 2008 7:54 PM CDT
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i've been using it for almost 3 years
and have yet to have any problems.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 2, 2008 7:56 PM CDT
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It's probably not that big of a deal...
but I use my credit card online quite a bit, so I just like to be extra careful.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Jul 2, 2008 8:06 PM CDT
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Ah. Yeah. I don't shop online
:-)
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 2, 2008 8:08 PM CDT
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Because people love ripping on him
it gets pretty tiring, to say the least. I don’t agree with all his takes, but I’m usually with him on how he rates pitchers.
I'm not a religious man, but I pray for Carlos Marmol's arm.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on
Jul 2, 2008 6:58 PM CDT
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How about when he wishes one of us were dead?
How’s that opinon grab you?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 2, 2008 6:59 PM CDT
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boo.
bum. piss.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on
Jul 2, 2008 7:02 PM CDT
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although
the rumor of my work blocking BCB, fantasy and another Cubs site all in 1 day remain true. I have found myself staring at the computer screen more than once.
UGGGGGGGGG
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Jul 2, 2008 6:28 PM CDT
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Wow, the unlucky triad..
My sympathies to you, sir.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on
Jul 2, 2008 7:22 PM CDT
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Its (honestly) worse
....than getting the opposite of a raise
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Jul 2, 2008 7:23 PM CDT
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he lives!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on
Jul 2, 2008 7:01 PM CDT
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Ed Farmer refrences have no place here.
:)
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Thats deep to left.....back back back HEY HEY!!! he did it attaboy Jimmy!!!!! woooooooo!!! tie game!! Thats for you Jack" Len Kasper 6/12/08
by Galvan316 on
Jul 2, 2008 7:05 PM CDT
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HE LIVES!
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 2, 2008 7:10 PM CDT
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Yes he does
Work blocked the site…..its like Office Space, they are doing everything in their power to make me quit….....
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Jul 2, 2008 7:15 PM CDT
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Poor Hammer.
you’ve been missed. hope things get better.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT
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Yet like OfficeSpace
They should be giving you a huge raise?
Not enough flair maybe?
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Thats deep to left.....back back back HEY HEY!!! he did it attaboy Jimmy!!!!! woooooooo!!! tie game!! Thats for you Jack" Len Kasper 6/12/08
by Galvan316 on
Jul 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT
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I need to get either
an unpronounceable name or a name that resembles a former star.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Jul 2, 2008 7:22 PM CDT
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You need to get a proxy server at work.
Just sayin’.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jul 2, 2008 8:09 PM CDT
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