Overflow Thread 1: Cubs vs. Astros, Sunday 7/20, 1:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Jul 20, 2008 2:15 PM CDT
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It's a beautiful feeling
There are great firsts in a persons life.
First steps
First day of school
First kiss
First time getting busy
First (and hopefully only) wedding
First baby
But nothing in the world compares to the first time your first on a game or overflow thread!
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Jul 20, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Is there any statistical significance
in having a sabermagician post first on a team’s blog—does it increase the chances of that team winning?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Actually
Actually if a sabermatician posts first on his favorite team’s blog 1st overflow post on sundays the week the bears start training camp the team is 12-2.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Jul 20, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Bears training camp has started?
That’s bad news for the Cubs…
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Boy, that ump loves the low strike call.
Saved our bacon on Backe’s ab, though.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 20, 2008 2:23 PM CDT reply actions
where have you been cwyers
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 20, 2008 2:23 PM CDT reply actions
Haha..
that song is still in my head..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Make up call....
...close but I don’t think that’s a strike, either.
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
Ramy is really in a funk right now.
His hot streak after his last 0-28 didn’t last long…
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
LOL
Way off the plate on the Astros broadcast’s pitch tracker
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
Sounds like the wind
is blowing in Len and Bob’s microphone but there shouldn’t be any wind. Strange.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
I mentioned that Friday night.
At first, I thought that hissing noise might be Joe Morgan, but then I realized it wasn’t ESPN doing the game.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 20, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
The sound of the crowd in that garbage stadium
reminds me of going to my little brothers swim meets with a pool and enough stands for 50 people… the echoes, I know insignificant to you guys but it makes me laugh
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 20, 2008 2:25 PM CDT reply actions
I dont know I just dont like it
Its too small and odd, I dont know… its just one of those things I really dont like
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 20, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
fair enough
Just wondering cause AL in his pregame also mentioned it.
It's okay
I’ve been there it’s okay. Nothing to write home about but not bad.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Jul 20, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I think for me
They tried too hard to make it stand apart from other ball parks. Short porches and damn hill. That coupled with the windows and I am not liking it.
Demp, strikeouts are so facist.
says Crash Davis.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 20, 2008 2:31 PM CDT reply actions
Which is why those poll questions are dumb most of the time
Always one obvious answer and a few people with questionable brains wasting texts on the other answers
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
What's the best division in the NL?
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
Central won with 89%
East 8%
West 3%
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
but text messaging fees do apply
so AT&T is making some $$$ from these dumb poll questions
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
Demps cooking with gas now
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 20, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions
Complete game reachable
if all his innings are like that one
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 20, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
You know a guy owns a team when he get two of those hits in one game
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
Did I mention I hate Carlos Lee?
And did you see that little fountain of dust kicked up by the ball when it hit in center field? What have they got out there, sawdust?
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 20, 2008 2:34 PM CDT reply actions
Carlos Lee must die.
Freakin frakkin fricker!
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 20, 2008 2:34 PM CDT reply actions
yeah
those are fantastic numbers.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 20, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
My nerves could handle Howry better, but....
I suspect it’ll be Marmol.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 20, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Jermaine Dye hit in Chicago...
Hawk wants the Sox to hit a Royal with a pitch.
I really don't understand that logic
If your guy gets hit intentionally in the face… then maybe. But to bean a player intentionally because the other teams pitcher let a ball get away makes no sense.
Might be last inning for Backe....
84 pitches, bats 4th next inning…
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
Fontenot should start every year from mid-June to August 1st
Then only used off the bench
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He's definately looked better with consistent playing time...
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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 20, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree, but didn't we kinda get burned a little last August when he had to play full time?
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
Demp is a REALLY good bunter.
I’m not sure if I’ve seen him fail yet.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 20, 2008 2:42 PM CDT reply actions
Great point.
11 sacrifices. Leads the team. Next best is Lilly with only 6!
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 20, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
He should be our designated bunter
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 20, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Was just checking out the schedule..
brewers @ Cards starting a 4 gamer tomorrow. Could help us out if they split..
"Go Cubs Go"
we want them to split
four fifteen inning games.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 20, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Finally
the bats have come alive.
4-0
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
Lol
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 20, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
The Riot!!
I know what a lot of people say on this board, but you’ve got to play a guy with that batting average.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 20, 2008 2:43 PM CDT reply actions
Nice to see a little small ball
Thats what makes a good team even better.
Yeah, that run was set up by the good bunt from Dempster.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 20, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
How can you bench Theriot?
Another hit for The Riot. Add an RBI, too.
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
easily.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 20, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Could we find a doctor who could combine Theriot's hitting with Cedeno's defense we wouldn't have this debate
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
It's a game thread....
Riot bashing threads have to happen at some point….
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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 20, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
why not?
Give Cedeno some playing time, see if he can get his bat in order.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 20, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
but why take a hot bat..
out of the order.. If he cools off fine try him, but not right now..
"Go Cubs Go"
hot bat
and an empty glove.
It’s arguable, I think, whether his offensive… work (I hesitate to use the word “power” in association with Ryan Theriot) gains us more runs than his glove and/or bad baserunning costs us.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 20, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Overall I agree with you..
My point is right now you ahve to keep his bat in the lineup b/c he is getting a base. Right now he is hot and you have to find a way to keep a hot bat in the lineup. If he cools then i’d agree but right now he is swinging a hot bat.
"Go Cubs Go"
you're not listening
the bat does not overcome his baserunning blunders and poor fielding.
At least, that’s my opinion.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 20, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm listening clearly..
and i agree that hitting doesn’t make up for all of that. my point was RIGHT NOW he is getting on base quite a bit. A 13 game hit streak would indicate that. that jumps starts runs. and i personally don’t think Cedeno is a better player than Theriot. maybe defensively but after that he makes the same baserunning blunders and he doesn’t hit as much.
"Go Cubs Go"
Riot
has made many more baserunning blunders.
Of course, he gets to play.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 20, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
i'll put an end to this..
we’ll just agree to disagree and call it a day.. at least we both agree on our team.. Go Cubs!!
"Go Cubs Go"
You can't bench the Riot
As long as he keeps hitting like this, it isn’t even a question
by bluekoolaide on Jul 20, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
i believe the point was..
there is no reason not to tho.. at least not right now with the way he is hitting.
"Go Cubs Go"
no reason not to
except for his base-running and his fielding
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 20, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
and again
I’m not sure his bat makes up for the other things.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 20, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
At some point...
...a player’s fielding has to offset his hitting, right? Otherwise guys like Cliff Floyd would be playing shortstop.
The question is where you draw that line. But it IS a question.
agreed.. my only point is
right now his hitting is very good. you have to keep a hot bat in the lineup. You don’t take him out at this current time bc he is getting on base..
"Go Cubs Go"
Dude, some advice....
.....let this, yet another Riot bashing thread, just die or you’ll be going back and forth all day with the Riot haters…
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
by carmen_fanzone on Jul 20, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Would Riot be at least an average defensive 2B in your opinion?
IMO, DeRo would be at least as good of a SS as Riot. What would happen if you switch the two?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
DeRosa is really past the age where you'd want to be moving him back to shortstop...
...on anything more than an emergency basis. (He’s probably the third-best shortstop defensively on the team right now, not that that says much.)
Agreed that he won't win a GG at SS,
but neither will Theriot. I don’t think that Cedeno has shown Lou enough consistency to get a real chance.
So, what if…
Assume that we are passed the trade deadline.
Assume that Riot sprains his ankle and will miss a month.
Does Lou:
1. Play Ronny every day at SS
2. Platoon Ronny and Fonty with DeRo shifting between SS and 2B
3. Platoon Ronny and Fonty with Fonty playing SS
4. Play DeRo at SS and Fonty at 2B every day
Not great options, but do we have anyone to call up from AA and AAA that would be better?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
#4
gives you the most power at the plate, but DeRosa at SS… I dunno…
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 20, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
We have absolutely no SS depth in the minors.
Which is why we can’t afford to put Cedeno on waivers, despite what you hear around here from time to time.
2 Cajuns + 1 Canadien = 1 run!
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 20, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions
Hopefully...
Lincecum brings his good stuff today
He has really lost his patience
I wonder if the wandering MLB strikezone has him off kilter. He seems stunned by some of the strike calls lately.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 20, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
4-0 bottom of the order up the the Stros
Come on Demp!!!!
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
Is anyone else having trouble getting BCB to load, display avatars, etc.?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
+1
Come on, Demp. Tighten up on those Stros.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 20, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
The fan cam
is not kind today.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
thats what i was thinking
houston looks rough
Cuz the roof isn't open. No one is showing any skin.
Of course, now that I think about it, that could be a kindness, given that we’re playing in Houston.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 20, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Backe seems like a headcase
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
They showed him staring down the ump from the dugout before he went to the clubhouse
Then he muttered some curse at him
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
by CubsBall2202 on Jul 20, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Z has
better style.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 20, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to know
what Z was yelling to Geo last night.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
I daydream about mic'ing up the squad
Lou and umps, no announcers, just let us hear it all uncut
What doesn't destroy you makes you stranger -- The Joker
I'd love it but I'll bet some FCC regulations would be violated.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 20, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL Bob Brenly.
Saying that Hunter Spence’s legs are so skinny that it looks like rustlers stole his calves.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 20, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions
Good one
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 20, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone else remember hearing in March
that Towles was a ROY candidate, and that there were a few writers who said he would be better than Soto?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
No complete game for Demps today.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 20, 2008 2:57 PM CDT reply actions
I think this inning shows we aren't seeing a cg today.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 20, 2008 2:57 PM CDT reply actions
I think I used all of mine
On a Cubs win for today. :)
ARAM
not having a good run of things.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
I feel so much better about our team when ARam is swinging a hot bat
maybe he will get it going back in AZ.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
He seems to be doing the same thing that DLee is doing
Reaching for that low and away slider.
Maybe he needs to change his sox?
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 20, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
a few days ago,
Ron Santo said that if Aram’s hot streak ended, he’d switch his socks. hasn’t happened yet.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 20, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, his cold bat is definitely NOT affecting his glove.
Everyone slumps with the bat. Guys who don’t let it affect their defense are the guys you can rely on.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Demp is still in!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
Actually, I'm good with Marmol pitching an efficient, scoreless ninth.
Dempster getting a complete game gives me memories of Dusty Baker leaving Prior and Wood in.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 20, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
true, but he has an excellent pitch count today
What doesn't destroy you makes you stranger -- The Joker
Dempster is a different pitcher than Prior or Wood
From a style stand point.
Marmol is up in the pen.
Howry is NOT.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
Astros broadcast text poll
“Will the Astros complete the sweep?”
Results: 66% Yes, 33% No
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
What fools these mortals be!
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 20, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Fly out....
cruising….and he’ll probably come out for the 9th with 102 pitches.
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
Demp is only at
102-103 pitches. They should let him finish the game.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
I think Lou will let him try.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 20, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Great start from Dempster today.
Just what the team needed after the two first inning runs.
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Padres strand two in the 7th.
SD 3
STL 1
by GateCity, VA Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply actions
anybody see how long the Padre pitcher took to round the bases after his homer?
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
Ha! I just watched it...
...running hard until he got to 2nd, then he briskly walked the rest….lol
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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 20, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
stros
will have lee, tejada, wigginton…. Id rather stay with dempster
I think that's what'll happen.
But with a quick string if he gets a man on with less than 2 out.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 20, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
The last time Dempster pitched more innings than he has already this year...
...was 2002. I don’t know that we need to ride him THAT hard.
unless
we get another run then I go with gaudin
wow that woman in the crowd has quite the squeal
What doesn't destroy you makes you stranger -- The Joker
Maybe that was Joe Morgan?
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 20, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Lefties gettng it done today
5/11 3 runs 2 rbi
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 20, 2008 3:15 PM CDT reply actions
Wow
how many ‘off the wall’ hits have been singles or just barely doubles
Riot,
Were you watching how DeRo held at 2B on a grounder to the left side?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Fontenot continues to confound me
seems so one dimensional but he keeps coming up with BIG hits-I’m starting to understand why Lou seems to like him so much.
he doesn't have much presence
but he sure wields a big bat
What doesn't destroy you makes you stranger -- The Joker
Great time to tune in
Pat & Ron are in 7th heaven.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
Ray Durham
Ignore if this is old news, but I just saw a ticker that said the Brewers have picked up Ray Durhamd from SF.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
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