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He Can't Do It All Himself: Cubs 1, Astros 4

Carlos Zambrano homered last night, his second of the year, the fourth one he's hit in his career in Houston, and his 14th lifetime dinger, breaking Fergie Jenkins' club record for career HR by a pitcher.

And that was the sum total of the Cub offense last night as they lost their third in a row, 4-1 to the Astros. Z must have felt as if he had to do everything himself, and he was uncharacteristically wild (for this year, anyway -- the six walks he issued is a season high), probably overthrowing, getting back into bad habits from years gone by. Z acknowledges he may have lost control:

Zambrano dropped to 5-1 in 10 starts against the NL Central this season. He often seemed exasperated and [Lou] Piniella wants his fiery ace to work on controlling his emotions.

"There is no reason to show your frustrations," Piniella said. "All you can do is pick up the other team and hurt yourself. He’s a really good competitive guy, he loves to win. All that does is take away from his greatness."

Zambrano conceded that Piniella might be right.

"I wasn’t controlling myself. That’s the most important thing," he said. "You can be mad at yourself, you can be mad at the batter, but you have to stay in control."

The Cubs had plenty of chances to take the lead or even break the game open early -- they left RISP in the second, third and fifth innings (not that I'm complaining about a Z home run, but it would have been more productive with two men on in the second inning), and all seven LOB for the game were in the first five innings. Meanwhile, of Z's six walks, two of them scored as the Astros went out to a 3-0 lead by the end of the third.

And essentially, although I, and most of you probably too, followed or watched the rest of the game, we might as well have done something else with our Saturday evening.

Speaking of which, if you were watching Baseball Tonight after the Cubs game last night, the 2003 game that they were all discussing -- and I hadn't seen the "highlights" from that eventually rained-out game since then -- that was what I've called the "Typhoon Game", played on Mother's Day, May 11, 2003 (there's no boxscore or recap link because they called it, with the Cubs down 11-9, after four innings, so it wasn't official and wound up being rescheduled to September, helping to create the memorable five-game series vs. St. Louis at that time; the Cubs won four of the five, helping send them to the NL Central title). The wind and rain really were that bad, blowing balls that should have landed foul in the seats into the middle of left field. It was raining sideways and so windy that I couldn't even hold up my umbrella. Here's what I wrote about it at the time, and I stand by that five years later. That game should never have even been started -- conditions were appalling, and the Cardinals' Eli Marrero suffered a serious ankle injury, which may have been the impetus for finally calling the game. Check out Marrero's career stats -- after 2003, except for one year as a decent part-timer in Atlanta, he was never really the same player. I have to say that Eduardo Perez was pretty funny on BBTN, expressing how much he did NOT want Tony LaRussa to send him into that game!

One more TV-related event: after BBTN, I flipped on the Orioles-Tigers game on EI, which had, rather comically, gone into extra innings tied 10-10. Luke Scott hit a walkoff HR, went around the bases to his teammates awaiting him at the plate, flipped off his helmet as players now do when they do that (because otherwise it hurts when the happy team bashes you on the head!) -- and then slid into home plate. I thought that was an appalling display of showing up the other team. Wouldn't be surprised to see Scott get knocked down today by a Detroit pitcher.

This recap is just about done. What more can be said? This, for one: Chad Gaudin threw well in relief, and that's a good thing, because you can never have too many capable relief pitchers. For all the criticism he sometimes gets, and yes, he can be extremely maddening -- this team badly misses Alfonso Soriano. Including the game in which Soriano was injured (since he didn't play past the bottom of the first that day), the Cubs have treaded water at 16-16. He appears on target to return next Thursday at home vs. the Marlins (and I am going to bring our secret weapon, my son Mark, whose personal record is 8-0 this year, back to at least one, hopefully two, games in that series). Thanks to Jessica for pointing out that the Cubs catch a break the next week because they won't have to face Dan Haren or Brandon Webb in Arizona, usually a house of pain for Cub teams (they are only 13-25 in the former BOB, and that doesn't even include the two NLDS losses last year), and won't face Ricky Nolasco, Florida's best pitcher, next weekend.

Enough. Salvage one from this series and move on. It's hard for just about any team to win on the road these days -- just look at Tampa Bay, who looked horrid while losing seven in a row on the road (including being swept by the Indians at Cleveland, not a good team this year), and who have righted their ship at home. The pregame thread will be up at 11:30 am CT.

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Missed the game yesterday...

Unfortunately (or fortunately?) I really hope our offense gets back in line. This slump is no good.

by GoCubbies34 on Jul 20, 2008 8:18 AM CDT   0 recs

Please don't get mad

But, hey, I feel for ya man. I want the cubbies to win it all this year, even though I root for another team. Still, it’s your time. Go Cubs!

by TexasHeater on Jul 20, 2008 8:24 AM CDT   0 recs

Showing up the other team?

Disagree. You don’t want the other team to celebrate?

Don’t allow the man to score.

I hope Luke Scott breaks the arm of whichever pitcher throws at him.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!

by DaBard on Jul 20, 2008 8:32 AM CDT   0 recs

Agreed.

If he did it on a non-walk-off that would be one thing, but the whole team is already out there celebrating.

by jolietconvict on Jul 20, 2008 8:43 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's true. BUT...

... sliding into the plate when you don’t have to? That’s showing the other team up. Jump up and down—absolutely.

We’ll see if Scott gets brushed back. I’m betting he does.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 20, 2008 10:35 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed

I think there’s a high-and-tight pitch in Scott’s future. Detriot is probably frustrated anyway, seeing as how they scored 6 in the first and just gave that game again.

Yesterday was a bad Chicago baseball day: Along with the Cubs losing and STL and MIL winnnig, the Sox got spanked and the Twins won big. The Twins are a mere half-game back, and Liriano looks to be ready to go.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermatrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jul 20, 2008 10:38 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

"Again" = "away"

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermatrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jul 20, 2008 10:38 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And I hope he charges the mound with his bat

And breaks the pitcher’s pitching hand.

I’m sick and tired of a bunch of unwritten rules being enforced by lethal weapons. Time for hitters to retaliate with deadly force.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!

by DaBard on Jul 20, 2008 1:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

So you're against unwritten rules being enforced by lethal weapons...

... and your solution is for someone to smash a pitching hand with a bat.

Grow up.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 20, 2008 7:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No, I'm for an eye for an eye

If a pitcher can unleash a 90-mph fastball in the vicinity of someone’s head for a perceived slight, then I don’t see why hitters can’t retaliate in kind.

Say someone strikes out the side with the bases loaded in a one-run game in the 9th. And the pitcher jumps off the mound in celebration. By your logic, the hitter could then be expected to charge the mound the next game.

It’s juvenile for pitchers to behave this way when they are in possession of potentially career- or life-ending weapons. And if that’s how it’s going to be, let’s at least even up the sides.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!

by DaBard on Jul 20, 2008 8:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

sliding at home

on a walk off deserves one up and in….go read the unwritten rules of baseball…..

I'm a reader not a poster, but I'm also a poster so don't get any ideas.

by cozmotaylor123 on Jul 20, 2008 8:44 AM CDT   0 recs

Um..
read the unwritten rules

If they are “unwritten” how would one go about reading them?

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Jul 20, 2008 9:18 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes

Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!

by DaBard on Jul 20, 2008 9:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Risk Management? That's gold, Jerry! Gold!

George: I tell ya, I am hooked on these books on tape.

Man: Oh, tell me about it. These things have ruined me for Braille.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 20, 2008 10:33 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

sigh

a bit of a dispirited game, that one. I realize these guys are often forced to play in all kinds of weird conditions, whether it be blinding rain or the juice box. Even so, the sooner we’re out of that place the better. Looking at the lattice work shadows in OF made my head hurt.

Let’s beat ‘em up today.

What doesn't destroy you makes you stranger -- The Joker

by Emelie on Jul 20, 2008 9:00 AM CDT   0 recs

+1

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 20, 2008 12:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think when last place teams

celebrate a win like that, they look foolish. But It seems the norm lately. Alot of players don’t show respect to the game or their opponents. I wish Valverde would come up to the plate just once.

by Rick B on Jul 20, 2008 9:01 AM CDT   0 recs

+1

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 20, 2008 10:00 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

BOOOO Emotions!!!!!

Booooo having fun!!!!!!!

Players should be disciplined for celebrating like college and pro football!!!!!!!! Those leagues obviously understand how to run themselves. Baseball needs to fall in line and demand their players don’t show any emotion at all.

by Tackle Box on Jul 20, 2008 11:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm drawing solace from the fact that...

...overall, the Cubs’ pitching has still been fairly solid. Lilly pitched well on Friday and, though Big Z obviously wasn’t in top form last night, he still came within a run of a quality start. I thought Gaudin looked very solid as well. As Lou has been wont to say, you can’t expect to win baseball games scoring only one run.

Another potential break the Cubs may be catching today: The Brewers face Tiny Tim. And the Cards are sending rookie Jamie Garcia (his first major league start) against the Madres’ Baek.

I’ll probably be monitoring most, if not all, of this one on my phone. So may the Baseball Godz grant me many bars and the Cubs many runs. Go get ‘em, Demp!

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 20, 2008 9:53 AM CDT   0 recs

Be nice to stop the skid and

to finally have Demp win on the road so we can hopefully stop hearing about his “road woes”.

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on Jul 20, 2008 10:21 AM CDT   0 recs

I remember that Mothers day game.

I took my wife and daughter to that game.(2 of the other people I sit with were not going to the game so I got their tickets) All the way up there, my wife was wondering if the game was going to happen. When we got there, the wind was blowing a gale. It was the strongest wind I ever remembered at the park, and during the game balls were just flying out the park. When the game was delayed, we waited out the entire rain delay and only went home after they officially called it. When we got home, we found out one of our trees had been blown down and it scrapped my neighbors house. It was the beggining of the end of the good relationship with him. WHile it barely scrapped his house, it did ding up his gutter (not badly), but he put up a big stink about it. Since it was a healthy tree the insurance company called it an act of God and didn’t pay for repairs. I offered to go half with him since it was my tree, but he rejected my offer. After that, he barely talked with me anymore. All he did was straighten out the gutter himself and complain about everything until the day he moved about a year and a half ago.

See the Cubs 2008 schedule (with TV schedule & game-by-game results) at http://ignarski.tripod.com/sched2008.html

by kaseyi on Jul 20, 2008 10:37 AM CDT   0 recs

Responsibility for the "Typhoon Game"

I thought that before a game starts in questionable weather, the decision about whether to play or cancel was strictly that of the home team’s organization, and only once play has started that the umpires control when play stops or a game is called. Am I mistaken? I know Bruce Froemming is a Cub-hater and a jerk, but can it really be pinned on him?

by ChipSet on Jul 20, 2008 11:02 AM CDT   0 recs

It was once the game had started.

Virtually the entire game was played in a driving rainstorm. Yes, Cub management isn’t totally blameless—they should never have started that game. But once it did and the rain got harder, Froemming should have called a delay long before he did.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 20, 2008 11:06 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

But honestly the Cubs are more to blame for this

...since the game should not have been started. Once it does start, I don’t see umpires calling a game after a half-inning unless the weather takes a dramtic turn for the worse.

by ChipSet on Jul 20, 2008 11:11 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You weren't there that day, I assume.

It did. That’s absolutely the worst conditions I have ever seen baseball played in at Wrigley Field.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 20, 2008 11:15 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nope - not that day

though it sounded like conditions were really bad before the game even started.

I did freeze in the UD Reserves on Mothers Day a couple of years ago… you’d think we’d be having decent weather in May, but that’s Chicaga for ya.

by ChipSet on Jul 20, 2008 11:19 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I've written about games on Mother's Day before...

... seems the weather’s always crappy that day when the Cubs are home. Was this year, too, but the rain held off long enough for them to sweep the D-backs.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 20, 2008 11:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

As lethargic as the Cubs have looked

we have lost one game in our lead over the last ten games (5-5 while the chasers are 6-4). As I see it, the pitching seems solid and it seems Hendry needs to focus on a bat, if anything is going to get done between now and the end of the month. If we are going to exhibit any weakness, let’s have them come out NOW, while something can be done about it.

I still like our chances and I have confidence that Lou will solve this road funk. It seems that we lack the timely hits and make more bone-headed plays on the road (Theriot on the bases last night)? Are they pressing? Possibly.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 20, 2008 11:08 AM CDT   0 recs

Harden vs Sabathia

Does it bug anyone else that while we’re still waiting for Harden’s second Cubs start, Sabathia is already 3-0 with the Brewers, with 24 IP? (Not to mention 5 ER, 24 K)? After all, Sabathia’s been with Milwaukee a day longer than Harden’s been with the Cubs.

by ChipSet on Jul 20, 2008 11:15 AM CDT   0 recs

No.

It was the way their starts happened to fall in the rotation, the All-Star break (the Brewers chose to have Sabathia start the last game before the break and the first game after) and the desire to make sure Harden was rested.

By the time the season ends the difference will likely be one start.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 20, 2008 11:18 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed.

The Cubs may be putting Harden on a shoulder strengthening program similar to the one that Z is on, but why discuss that publicly? This is a long war. The rest around the AS break may be to get him prepped for the home stretch.

As many of us keep discussing, I don’t think the pitching is the issue. It seems we need more consistent bats on the road (timely hitting). Let’s hope that begins TODAY!

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 20, 2008 11:38 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

True dat

and of course the team needs to think long-term (as in remainder of the season). Let’s hope the tortoise beats the hare.

by ChipSet on Jul 20, 2008 1:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I am going to my first Cubs game of the season July 29th

Im not very good at figuring out starting pitchers a couple weeks in advance anyways much less w/ Harden not going every 5 days. Could anyone give an idea of who might be starting for the Cubs that day? Extra good karma points if you could also give me a heads up on who the Brewers starting pitcher might be.

thanks!

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 20, 2008 11:26 AM CDT   0 recs

That would be Jessica's job.

She’s real good at that kind of thing.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 20, 2008 7:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

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