Astros get Wolf
by pageian on Jul 22, 2008 4:15 PM CDT
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My first reaction was to rofl, I guess this is the Astros response to Milwaukee getting Sabathia and the Cubs getting Harden and Gaudin. Um, Really Ed Wade?
Sabathia..........Harden.................................................................Wolf??????????
Someone needs to tell Ed Wade that the Astros ship sailed long ago and that any moves he makes at this point is akin to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Someone needs to tell Ed Wade that the Astros shouldn't be trying to compete with the Joneses when you're so far away from being a Jones yourself you can barely see them. I'm left wondering where the 'Stros are going to be in two years? They didn't have a great farm system to begin with and now Wade has gutted it for the likes of Miguel Tejada and Randy Wolf among others. Where are those guys going to be in two years? Where are the prospects he traded going to be in two years? If Mr. Wade was smart he'd stop being the Anti-Beane and start trying to stockpile some good, young talent to the organization and stop adding aging players who are on the down hill side of their careers.
Anyway, nothing personal against Randy Wolf. He's descent enough I suppose. He's not going to do a damn thing for the Astros playoff chances though this year and I suspect anyone who's paying attention knows that. Oh well, maybe before it's all said and done Wolf will administer a beating to Ed Wade, ala Shawn Chacon. Might as well get some entertainment from this after all.
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Didn't Wade ever hear of the story about
...the boy who cried Wolf? Not a happy ending.
by zevkalman on Jul 22, 2008 4:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Really hard to figure this one out
Which team is stupider? At least the Padres are saving money. But that doesn’t say much, as they are headed for a 99-loss season. Wolf was pretty ineffective in his past few starts. His trade value dimished. Perhaps only the Astros are dumb enough to want him. This may be a way for the Astros stay out of last place, with Oswalt out.
Outside of that, this is a senseless deal.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 22, 2008 4:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Someone on Crawfish Boxes brought up the point that Wolf may end up being a Type B free agent. What’s the rule for type B’s, one sandwich pick? If so maybe the ‘Stros will get something better than Chad Reineke for the $2.5 million that they’re going to throw down the Randy Wolf drain the rest of the year, although with Wade calling the shots I wouldn’t bet on it.
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by pageian on Jul 22, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Offering him arbitration is a little risky though
He could end up accepting.
by Wreckard on Jul 22, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
Didn’t think of that. I suppose they could do worse if he accepted, it’s not like their rotation is stocked right now anyway. Heck, Wolf is probably their #3 right now.
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by pageian on Jul 22, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can bet
when a team makes a move that’s hard to figure out and doesn’t really make sense that a GM like Wade or Bavasi is involved. Remember a few years ago when the M’s were treading water at the break but weren’t technically out of the race and Bill Bavasi started trading prospects for aging backups in an obviously futile attempt to make the playoffs? That’s what Wade is doing here. His reasoning doesn’t have to be based in reality. Despite the fact that Reineke isn’t really a prospect, he’s adding payroll at a point when he should be trying to reduce payroll, he’s adding mediocre vets when he should be trying to deal them. Essentially he doesn’t know what he’s doing, so I guess that’s why.
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by pageian on Jul 22, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reineke is a prospect.
He’s sixth in KG’s rankings of Astros prospects, ninth in BA’s, 11th in Sickle’s. That averages out to between 8-9.
Okay, sure, that says as much about the sorry state of the Astros’ farm system as anything else. But a hemopheliac is the sort of person who can least stand some needless bleeding.
by cwyers on Jul 22, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would have made sense LAST year.
Then they could have had Wolf and Lamb on the same team.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jul 22, 2008 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Aw, man. That would've been awesome!
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 22, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Pittsburgh Pirates once had Moose, Lamb and Veale.
No, really. Check their 1971 roster.
And the Cubs once had a battery of Trout and Lake. I love this stuff.
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by Al on Jul 22, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next year the Cubs can sign Wolf and Lamb
and bring Veal up from the minors with Chad Fox
We would practically have our own Zoo.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jul 22, 2008 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a link...
...to a fanpost over at the Crawfish Boxes discussing the trade. I’m not sure how widely trafficked that site is, but it might be fun to gauge ‘Stros fans reactions. Of the two comments up already, one user seems to be looking at Wolf as major league roster filler.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 22, 2008 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why would they do that?
They’re not even in the run for the postseason.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 22, 2008 4:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
why oh why
am I working a regular job for the federal govt when I know i’m smarter than clowns like wade. I dont get it. this is almost as bad as the pirates trading for matt morris last year.
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by cubsluver22 on Jul 22, 2008 4:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
It’s too bad really because guys like Ed Wade are the last of a dying bread. There won’t be so many stupid GM’s around much longer, at least not nearly as many as there used to be. Dave Littlefield, Bill Bavasi, Ed Wade, Allard Baird. Who are some other? Syd Thrift comes to mind. Those guys are actually pretty cool to have in the game as long as they aren’t associated with the Cubs.
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by pageian on Jul 22, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Dying bread".
That describes Ed Wade perfectly.
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by Al on Jul 22, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Oswalt's injury is more severe than originally thought...
...and they don’t have a starter in the minors?
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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 22, 2008 5:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if so
you go out and sign a FA mop up pitcher. you dont giveup what remaining minor leaguers you have left for randy wolf. but hey what do I know. its time like these i appreciate the heck outta jim hendry and what he does for us.
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by cubsluver22 on Jul 22, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Renieke
was a starter. Not a very good one but it’s not like good or bad is really going to matter from here on out for Houston. I can’t believe that the tiny bit of goodwill that Houston is going to get from it’s fans for trying to win is going to be worth the $2+ million that they are going to pay Wolf. This is a terrible use of resources for a team that’s not going to win anything.
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by pageian on Jul 22, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wolf has an ERA of 6.63 away from Petco
I truly feel sorry for the Astros organization.
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by DTJchris on Jul 22, 2008 5:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't feel sorry
for the Astros at all, I’ve never liked them. Even though they’re our direct competitors my dislike of them is deeper than it probably should be, more irrational. That said, I can’t understand why they hired Wade in the first place. McLane must not be a very good business man because if he were good he would have known better than to hire an unqualified friend to run his business. It’s nice to see this kind of incompetence in Houston but it’s baffling why it’s there in the first place, I guess you’ve got to blame McLane first.
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by pageian on Jul 22, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like them either, don't get me wrong
They may be one of my least favorite teams in baseball. But it is still sad to watch a once respectable organization be completely gutted and destroyed. Not in a, “oh, I really hope they can do good,” sort of way, but in a, “oh, that is one of the most depressing things I have ever seen,” sort of way.
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by DTJchris on Jul 22, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ed Wade is the worst baseball executive in the league
Well, maybe second worst next to Ned Colletti. But at any rate we won’t have to worry about Houston very much longer because Wade is in the process of driving that franchise into the stone age. He is terrible in all dimensions of front office operation.
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by MDBNIU on Jul 22, 2008 11:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If you read between the lines in the linked article
even Wolf thinks it’s a stupid trade.
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by JohnM on Jul 23, 2008 6:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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