Didn't We Already See This Game? - Cubs 2, Diamondbacks 9
by Al on Jul 23, 2008 8:06 AM CDT
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When a game starts out like the previous day's, our catchphrase in the bleachers is, "Didn't we see this game yesterday?"
Depressingly, last night's 9-2 Cub loss to Arizona started out like Monday night's -- with the Cubs down 1-0 on a solo HR by a Diamondback hitter; this time, even earlier than Monday (first inning as opposed to fifth), but the ultimate result was the same.
Criticize all you want, but Jason Marquis did his job last night, allowing three runs in six innings. For most teams, that will keep your team in the game, and in fact, when he left for a pinch-hitter, the Cubs were down only 3-1. Even after Sean Marshall allowed two runs, the Cubs came back with one and entered the last of the 8th trailing only 5-2 -- a deficit they've overcome this season more than once.
Much as I like Kevin Hart's arm, the promise he showed last September seems to be gone -- with an ERA up to 7.91, it's time to get some more bullpen help. Perhaps one of the lefties Jim Hendry and the staff are scouting -- Ron Mahay of KC or Damaso Marte of Pittsburgh -- might be on the way before the end of this month.
One thing I was amused by in last night's telecast -- if you didn't see Bob Brenly's pregame interview with Ryan Theriot, Theriot called himself scrappy. Either he's been reading blogs, or... well, I don't know or what. Amusing, though.
But that's really not what I want to talk about here. Last night was another loss due in main part to the offense's failure -- they've scored more than two runs only once since the All-Star break. What I want to discuss is the game threads on this site getting out of control.
First, here's a little more perspective. First of all, Bank Holding Company Field in Phoenix has been a house of horrors for the Cubs ever since it opened. They're now 13-29 there (including the two playoff losses last year). Even Cub playoff teams (1998, 2-4; 2003, 1-2; 2007, 1-2) haven't played well in Arizona. Further, the Cubs still have the best record in the NL and maintain, despite the slide, a one-game lead over Milwaukee. And, if you check the right sidebar box titled "Best Starts By Cub Teams Since 1900" that I update every day, this team is 21st best through 100 games of the 109 Cub teams since 1900. That's pretty good, in my opinion... and it does NOT warrant the profanity and ledge-jumping and nastiness to other posters that I have heard about in the game threads. Most of you know that I'm not in the game threads during home games because I'm at the games, and often not there for later-evening games like last night's because I have to get up at 3:30 am to go to work.
I opened my email at 4 am today to find multiple messages from BCB readers complaining about the tone in the game threads. We are all frustrated at the play of this team right now. I've uttered a choice word or two myself -- to the TV, in the privacy of my home, or at the ballpark, but NOT to other people who feel the same frustration! I remind all of you of the words you saw when you signed up for this site:
When posting at this blog, please follow this one simple rule: Before hitting "post" to post your remarks, ask yourself: "Would I be embarrassed to say this in front of strangers who were physically present in the room with me and could respond to my face?" If the answer is "yes," then don't post. BCB encourages and welcomes all opinions, no matter how strong; however, personal attacks, vulgarity, and other uncivilized forms of expression are not welcome. Thanks.
Please. Keep the profanity down. I once wrote here, "I don't mind the occasional fuck", a statement that provided a large amount of levity, but I think you see the point. And be nice to others. We're all here for the same reason: because we love baseball and the Cubs and want to see them win. If you've followed baseball and this site long enough, you'll remember some other words I've written:
Baseball is a marathon, not a sprint.
This will turn around. Alfonso Soriano may be back tonight. Hang in there, everyone. The best is yet to come.
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Not trying to be Debbie Downer,
but I doubt I have ever seen a weaker “quality start.” That said, I don’t expect anything more from Marquis.
Looking for negatives: Marshall, Hart, DeRosa, Lee.
Positives: Fontenot’s triple (Fun to watch), Ramirez was just missing, Dward’s homer and most importantly, Theriot hit a double.
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 23, 2008 8:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I love Theriot...
he’s just so….....scrappy ya know?
Calm down.
by Kinky Reggae on Jul 23, 2008 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One more positive.
Fukudome had two hits and a walk and seemed more patient last night.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 23, 2008 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Overall..
the team looked more patient. Just couldn’t get that clutch hit. Rami is clearly pressing and I think Soto is as well.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 23, 2008 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soto
looks like he is trying to pull everything, and thus can’t touch that outside corner breaking ball. Our guys just look like they need to get back to the fundamentals for a bit to get out of this slump.
Ramirez is frustrated, and I don’t remember being able to witness his frustration before. Last night was the second night in a row that he hit a ball that I too thought was long gone, only to have it die on the warning track.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 23, 2008 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rami
looks like he is swinging so hard at everything. Brenly brought up a good point in one of the replays about how his head isn’t staying on the ball and how he is opening up his swing. I totally agree and thought the same thing, You never see a lot of emotion out of him and he slammed his helmet, threw the bat… He just needs to relax and not try to hit a 10 run homerun.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 23, 2008 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was surprised when that ball didn't make the seats...
... it sure looked like it would have off the bat.
Also, Theriot’s ground rule double would have been in the juniper bushes at Wrigley.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 23, 2008 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know that
I have ever seen Theriot hit a ball that far that didn’t have help from the wind.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 23, 2008 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the second game in a row...
..that Aramis has hit a ball on the screws and, as it left the bat, I was positive – positive – that he’d just hit one out only to see it fall lifelessly into the left fielder’s glove. Call it lame, but this is another reason I hate domed stadums. NO WIND. And, yeah, I know, that doesn’t stop the D’Bags from hittng them out.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 23, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is what confuses me...
and I may be off as I am not a major leaguer, never played for NIU, and really was better at pitching than hitting when I was younger but…
Guys like DLee and Rami, professional hitters, ought to know when they are pressing and know that the keys must be to relax, don’t over swing, and keep your eye on the ball. I feel like they are not watching the ball. They want to bust out of the slump with 2 grand slams at once.
Again, maybe there is more but I do rememebr the indtuction I always had, and this is what it included. There is no way they are “not picking up the ball well” from every pitcher they have faced so far in the second half is there?
Calm down.
by Kinky Reggae on Jul 23, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
knowing you need to relax and doiing it
are different things. professional or not, they’re human and know they’re struggling and that the team needs them.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 23, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another positive
has been Fontenot. He has been a really pleasant surprise during Soriano’s injury.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 23, 2008 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reminds me of last year
when he came up and tore the cover off the ball.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 23, 2008 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fontenot
has a 1.308 OPS since the All-Star Break, including a .923 slugging percentage. He is 5 for 13 and those five hits include 2 doubles, a triple, and a homerun. He’s had a mighty good week, unfortunately he is just about the only one.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 23, 2008 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
negatives from last night? maybe DeRosa's fielding....
but he seemed to be one of the most patient hitters last night, drew two walks and then had a double later in the game. Maybe he’s been cold as late, but i’d put him in as one of the positives from last night along with Fontenot and also add Fukodome.
by maddux1-27-07 on Jul 23, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This team needs a slap in the face, an injection of that stuff The Hulk takes, SOMETHING...
...we just look downtrodden and sluggish lately. Hopefully Soriano and his bright blue Hummer will provide that for us.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jul 23, 2008 8:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"That stuff The Hulk takes"?
Gamma radiation? If it works…
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet Bud Selig doesn't test for it
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jul 23, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to see
Lou argue with an ump as…slowly…he turns green…and his clothes rip…
Actually, no, I don’t.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it IS happening
right now.
just really, REALLY slowly. :P
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 23, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Niiiice.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one Italian sausage
at a time…
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 23, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank God
that’s not a euphemism.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there are no
italian players on the Cubs. :P
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 23, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um...Mark DeRosa?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 23, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is he Italian?
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 23, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Switch it to Cajun
and we’ve got a whole slew (sLou?) of problems.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe so, yes.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 23, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, ok then
but it’s still not a euphamism.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 23, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bottom Line...
Until the 3-4-5-6 hitters can start getting some consistency they aren’t going to win to many games. When the ALL of your mid-lineup guys are in a slump this is what you get. It can’t get much worse than the start of this 2nd half, so, it can only get better RIGHT???
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 23, 2008 8:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I laughed too
when I heard Theriot used the word “scrap” to describe his style.
Hi, Ryan! How you doing?
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on Jul 23, 2008 8:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he’s good, I work for him you know. ha :)
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 23, 2008 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't we all?!
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't suppose anyone out there has a video clip?
Man, I’d love to see that. Maybe remix it into a dance track.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 23, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marquis has done a really good job lately
Soto has been really bad.
Dome had a solid game which is a really good sign.
Aramis has been awful for a while now.
Soriano is coming back, which to me is the key.
Derrek Lee needs to figure his junk out.
Theriot continues to impress.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jul 23, 2008 8:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Theriot...
He and LBR seem to be the only ones hitting right now. Scrappiness doesn’t falter.
"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 23, 2008 8:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Lou said it best
“We’ve got time to right this thing,” Piniella said, “but we have to start hitting the ball.”
Thats the bottom line. For the Cubs to be successful and go where we want to see them they have to start hitting the ball. Please bring Sori back tonight.
by jajonez77 on Jul 23, 2008 8:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Len and Bob
were talking about how the Cubs are a station to station team that scores runs with “a walk, a knock, and then a three run homerun.” For some reason this comment surprised me. I remember earlier in the season, our guys were stealing bases, including a few double steals here and there. Maybe I missed something, but I thought we were more than a station to station team this season.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 23, 2008 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soriano has been out, Pie isn't around anymore, and Theriot isn't really allowed to steal bases anymore
So we don’t really have anymore base stealing threats right now.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jul 23, 2008 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't disagree
our team hasn’t been able to manufacture runs the way they did earlier this year. Let’s just say that I was surprised that Len and Bob’s comments surprised me (if that makes sense).
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 23, 2008 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah the whole walk, hit, homer thing I don't agree with
Its more like walk, walk, single, double
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jul 23, 2008 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right.
The Cubs do rank fifth in the NL in homers (tied with St. Louis) but that’s hardly the focus of the offense.
Another positive thing to point out: the Cubs still lead the NL in runs scored and are third (by three) for fewest runs allowed.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 23, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. now that is a positive
one of the reasons baseball season is so long is because things like ths’ll balance out overtime. we’re still a good team. we’re just not looking like it right now.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 23, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Pie,
I heard on my drive to work that Pie went down with an injury last night, but nothign else. Anyone hear specifics?
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 23, 2008 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pie...
Injured his right ankle sliding in for a double. That’s all the recap of the game mentioned of it, hopefully it’s nothing serious. I want to see him back up here soon.
"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 23, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And definitely NOT a team the relies on the Homerun.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 23, 2008 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When this team is at Wrigley
they look like they can compete against anyone in baseball. When they are on the road they look worse than mediocre. They need to find a way to win on the road. That is the key. This division is going down to the wire. Unfortunately, we are away most of September. I hope the middle of our order can get hot soon.
by mgfabc on Jul 23, 2008 8:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They are Away the last week!
4 in NY and 3 in Milwaukee…It is so mind boggling why they are so Jeckyl and Hyde!
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 23, 2008 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cubs are the best team in their division
and possibly in the NL. If they play up to their capabilities, they will win their division. If they don’t, they won’t. I hope the home fans get behind them and support them. The last thing a struggling team needs is to get “booed” at home.
by Rick B on Jul 23, 2008 8:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lee
I’m still amazed with how often D.Lee seems to GIDP. I would think at this point that Lou has to occasionally think about getting that guy at first in motion to avoid getting doubled up as he has the past 2 games and 21 times this year.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
by mjk83 on Jul 23, 2008 8:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's on pace to break the NL record (30)
and the major league record (36) isn’t out of the question at this pace.
by rlpete on Jul 23, 2008 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remembering Jim Rice
There was a year (1984?) that he set the AL record for hitting into the most double plays. Funny thing is, it really seemed to bother him. I can remember avidly watching the team in 1986 and Rice was always choking up on the bat handle, punching singles into right field. In fact he hit less than 20 HR that year if memory serves.
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 23, 2008 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rice
Has the major league record with 36 in 1984. He followed up that year with 35 in 1985. The NL record is held by two slow catchers Brad Ausmus (2002) and Ernie Lombardi (1938).
Sad we are discussing this record but this pattern is getting very disturbing.
by rlpete on Jul 23, 2008 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Interesting" For Sure
Mostly I just wanted to share a memory of mine. Although I do wonder if Lee will be as sensitive about all the DPs as Rice seemed to be and consequently morph into more of a contact guy and less an HR threat.
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 23, 2008 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Lee would hit .330 as a result...
... he might hit more doubles and drive in just as many if not more runs.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 23, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Second the Motion
He was a Cardinal, but Tommy Herr drove in 110 runs for the Redbirds in 1985 without the benefit of hitting more than 10 HR.
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 23, 2008 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still not sure why Kosuke wasn't stealing.
Would’ve at least avoided the DP, and then, who knows.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
brenly said once that derrek's gidp
issues are b/c he hits the ball so hard. no matter how quick you get the 1B runner going a ball that gets to a middle IFer that fast is going to be a dbl play
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 23, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can anyone disagree
that this has been the worst set of games, this season so far, as a fan?
They look downright listless. And EVERYTHING they hit is finding a glove. There is plenty of time to correct this, but if this drags on much longer, it could become a downward spiral.
Lilly needs to win tonight. Period.
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
by SouthsideCub on Jul 23, 2008 8:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No, he doesn't
Not unless we’re playing a Game 7 on July 23.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
by DaBard on Jul 23, 2008 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't...It has really been tough to watch.
The only thing I can think of while watching a game at Az is the image of Lilly spiking his glove, which sets the tone for me…Last night I was so negative watching the game. I truly dislike AZ.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 23, 2008 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't agree more
The DBacks seem to have their best pitching performances and biggest hits against the Cubs. The DBacks are an average team who can’t score runs, but yet scored 9 runs last night.
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
by SouthsideCub on Jul 23, 2008 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and doug the douche davis
goes tonight. it seems he always does well against the cubs, despite being an average to below average pitcher. sure enough, you look at his career stats and his 3.39 era career against the cubs is a full run lower than his career era. he also sports a nice 1.22 whip and more k’s than innings pitched against the cubs. tonight is when we turn those stats around.
Soriano - Dome - DLee - Aramis - Soto. If that doesnt turn you on you're not human.
by kylejo on Jul 23, 2008 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like
the DBacks get up just a little more when they play the Cubs. I found that watching the 1st two series v the Brewers at Wrigley. Seemed like they were a little more intense than the Cubs.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 23, 2008 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's true
and we seem to be the cure that ails them at this time. The D Backs were SOOOOO ripe for the picking this series, losing 2 of 3 from the Dodgers, blowing a big lead in the 9th to lose that game on Sunday. We had just thundered to a 9-0 rout on Sunday and I thought we could finally get the monkey off our backs this trip into the chamber of horrors of a stadium. Randy’s performance was classic Randy, but we still had a GREAT chance to at least tie or go ahead in the 9th on Monday night and with a solid outing by Marquis on Tuesday, we’d be fine. This series is perpetuating and building on the failure of this team to win at all in AZ.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
by BigJohnAZ on Jul 23, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Said...
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 23, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Mo
Wouldn’t the corrolary be that Arizona, after losing 2 of 3 from the Dodgers, and blowing a big lead in the 9th to lose that game on Sunday, and seeing the Cubs lose 2 out of 3 at lowly Houston, were super-extra-motivated and “due” when the Cubs came to town?
“Ripe for the picking”, “momentum,” being “due”, bad mojo etc. — could all be just random malarkey. Either team has a good chance to win at the beginning of every game.
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on Jul 23, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You may be right
I don’t know, we won convincingly on Sunday coming out of our funk and they blew a “sure” win and lost the series. I ask you, does winning a game after losing 2 in a row build confidence or does blowing a seemingly won game and losing a series at home build confidence going into the next game?
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
by BigJohnAZ on Jul 23, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know
But I bet the winning percentage for both scenarios, for all teams added together throughout their combined histories, would be more or less the same. Otherwise, this sport would be way more predictable.
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on Jul 23, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that's why Vegas is in business! lol
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
by BigJohnAZ on Jul 23, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everything that has been said about AZ
I could claim about Cubs v. Padres for the last 25 years, at ANY ballpark in this town.
Let’s not just point out the Cubs failures in AZ.
And, of course this year—the Cubs had to play the Pads early in the season, when they were still competitive.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 23, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are absolutely right, Jazz Man
I totally forgot about our foibles in SD. It blows my mind that over so many years, that there are places that the Cubs, or any major league team in any sport, simply cannot buy a victory in. Houston, too. And the way that Randy Johnson simply OWNS us is incomprehensible. That of all his starts against us, he never took a loss. I don’t know how many ND’s are in there, if any. Randy may go 3 or 4 starts now and get blown out, but he always beats us.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
by BigJohnAZ on Jul 23, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to think positive
And say the Cubs will go 13-1 all-time against the Unit—but the one victory will have been worth all 13 of the losses.
Wouldn’t that be nice?
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 23, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully, that one little victory
(to quote Neil Peart) will come in this year’s post season, right?
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by BigJohnAZ on Jul 23, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oooh.
Nicely put.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It DOES Seem Like Ariz Saves Their Best For Us
Stats may indicate otherwise, and some may dismiss this as so much mythic hoo-ha, but all I know is I see what I see. Methinks Gracie and Thom Brennaman still come by and post bulletin board stuff in the DBax locker room.
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 23, 2008 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fact that Brenneman
calls the games for the DBacks makes it even worse. I shudder to think the schadenfraude he takes in watching the Cubs flail about. (Of course, this schadenfraude would exhibit itself in that completely phony baritone that Thom {what kind of asshole spells the shortened version of Thomas WITH the H?} puts on while he’s announcing)
/End rant.
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
by SouthsideCub on Jul 23, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brennaman no longer is a Diamondbacks announcer.
He now works for the Reds.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 23, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmm, yes.
A favorite among Cubs fans.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Daron Sutton
is the D-Back’s PbP man. However, their voices are similar. If you are not paying close attention, you could make that mistake, but if you watch a full 9-inning game on FSN/Arizona, I fail to see how you could not catch his name.
You might want to also blame Marty Brenneman and his wife for “Thom.” I’m not sure if an infant can be blamed for his monicker.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 23, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, you can't blame Marty & Little Thommy's mom.
They named him “Thomas”. Most people named “Thomas” use “Tom” as a shortened form, not the pretentious “Thom”.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 23, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a Radiohead fan?
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you are the best
(The Cubs still have the best record in the NL) you have to be ready to play against the other teams best every game. I would think that other teams get fired up when they know that they are playing the team with the best record.
by jajonez77 on Jul 23, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The D Backs get fired up
because there are 10,000+ Cubs fans here and that gets their fans fired up. I’m sure they hate hearing “Let’s Go Cubbies” all night in their home park, as well.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
by BigJohnAZ on Jul 23, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is normal in
pick a city: SD, LA, SF, STL, Milwaukee, etc etc. This isn’t a valid reason.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 23, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right. not having lived in those other cities
I can’t compare, but The D Back fans really hate the Cubs. I even got heckled by a Cardinals fan last night at the game. LOL
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
by BigJohnAZ on Jul 23, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Relief help
Al – any sense of when a trade for a lefty reliever might happen? KC and Pittsburg are both 12 games back and don’t look to contend any time year soon. Is the Cubs’ interest lukewarm, what with their own pitching backlog (Wuertz, Lieber, Eyre, Shark, Guzman, Hill, etc.)?
It would be awesome if you could hyperlink player names to their Yahoo or BR stats in the main article. I actually almost clicked on Ron Mahay expecting there to be a link. I’m sure it would add even more time to your “job” here at BCB to do so, though, so I understand and can look stuff up on my own initaitve.
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on Jul 23, 2008 8:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If it happens....
... I’d expect it to be close to the deadline.
If I remember, I’ll link players like that.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 23, 2008 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where's your The Dark Knight review, Al?
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jul 23, 2008 8:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Soon.
Mini-review: Outstanding.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 23, 2008 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to see it tonight
and I can’t wait
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 23, 2008 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seen it twice so far, got tickets to go Friday @ IMAX
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jul 23, 2008 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please post
somewhere the IMAX difference specific to this film. Saw it in the regular theater and was amazed. Wish I didn’t purchase that drink going in, but amazed.
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 23, 2008 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will do, I'll let you know, Oak
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jul 23, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
critics think Dark Knight
will help IMAX finally break through
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on Jul 23, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh...
...I think it’s already broken through. It’s not for every film, or every movie-goer. First off, the film is cumbersome (I think it’s about the thickness of a cassette tape, IIRC), requires modifications to most camera equipment, and expensive. And secondly, I don’t think movies like “Zohan” or “The Hottie and the Naughtie” are meant for IMAX.
I’ve seen a Matrix movie, the most recent Harry Potter film, and soon to be TDK in IMAX, and it’s friggin GREAT. I love the feeling of “falling” into the picture frame, but for some, that’s too much.
IMAX is one of the few productions in film that will keep me from saying “Ahhhh, screw it, I’ll wait for Blu-ray.” It’s well worth the $14.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jul 23, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You may be right
about the tape/film being larger but the cameras for sure are larger. Saw them on WGN morning news last week. Anyway, here’s some info from IMAX website.
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on Jul 23, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only skimmed the article
but they were just talking about becoming a much more popular choice of movie venue now that a big hit like DK is drawing them in.
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on Jul 23, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Hottie And The Nottie...
um…aahhh….i had a joke somewhere, but i lost it…
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 23, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How bout "Paris Hilton is a _________"
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jul 23, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For some reason
Cartman’s “Kyle’s Mom’s a Bitch” some comes to mind…
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Saw Fantasia 2000 in IMAX
Excellent stuff!
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 23, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't heard one person
say that the movie is anything less than outstanding.
by adam316 on Jul 23, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was...
less than outstanding. There. Now you’ve seen it.
In reality, it’s by far the greatest comic book movie ever. Though that may change next March when Watchmen releases.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm scared for Watchmen...
...Zach Snyder’s best film is a remake of a zombie movie. I REALLY want this movie to not suck.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jul 23, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely agreed.
But the trailer before Dark Knight looked godlike.
And, hey, regardless of Alan Moore’s opinion, I liked the V for Vendetta film.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Side note on TDK...no spoilers...
...I’ve purchased the soundtrack, and it is the best soundtrack I’ve ever heard besides that of Braveheart. TDK soundtrack is done by Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard – so I think it’s pretty safe to say these guys are gonna be remembered during Oscar and Grammy season. The music for The Joker is awesome; tracks like “Agent of Chaos”, “Aggressive Expansion”, and “Like a Dog Chasing Cars” are great.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jul 23, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will definitely keep that in mind.
I’ve always liked dark and foreboding music like that. There’s some great stuff on John William’s Revenge of the Sith soundtrack.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wish Terry Gilliam Was Still Directing It
ah well, I’m sure Zach will still do a good job.
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 23, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gilliam!
He and Lynch, my two personal faves. Excellent directors.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
by Kegler on Jul 23, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed They Are!
Permit me to add Kubrick, the Coen Brothers, Lasse Hallstrom, and Alexander Payne to my short list. And Sturges, Capra, and Wilder if we’re going all the way back.
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 23, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna throw in
Christopher Nolan and David Fincher as well.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All good, indeed.
Kubrick and the Coens for sure. What has Fincher done? Don’t know if I’m familiar with him.
Others that I think are Very Good: Wes Anderson, Solondz, Woody Allen.
Nothing quite like a well-made film.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
by Kegler on Jul 23, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Se7en, Fight Club, Zodiac...
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by dtpollitt on Jul 23, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah...
haven’t seen Zodiac, but Se7en isn’t a film you forget, and I Fight Club surprised me. Nice work.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
by Kegler on Jul 23, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fincher Also Directed Alien 3
Maybe not the best of the set but still some nifty stuff here and there. He’s very good!
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by CaliCub on Jul 23, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Loved Zodiac
Mark Ruffalo deserves much higher recognition
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on Jul 23, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget..
Paul Thomas Anderson. Another good director. Boogie Nights, Magnolia, There Will Be Blood..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 23, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ledger eats up the screen
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on Jul 23, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
During his first few scenes
I was literally wringing my hands together. This, finally, was the Joker my dad used to describe to me from the comics. The Killing Joke Joker.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just want to say for the first time
F*ck!!
by adam316 on Jul 23, 2008 8:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it the Tone or the Language
that folks are not liking. Language and Tone are two completely different things. Language you can police, tone you really can’t.
I undestand policing the language but if folks are just expressing their opinions without the language I am not sure folks really have right to report them to anybody. Sure you can disagree with their tones but you have to respect their opinion no matter how far left or right it is.
A lot of times folks on the game threads and other fanposts are trying to bait folks into arguments by questioning their fanhood, loyalty. Every fan is different…please don’t make these threads become communist
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on Jul 23, 2008 8:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's both, actually, in my opinion.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 23, 2008 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Al is
wanting to or trying to police the Game Threads, they way I took it, he is basically just asking folks to respect each other. There really isn’t much of a reason to call people names or insult them.
by adam316 on Jul 23, 2008 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's exactly what I'm asking.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 23, 2008 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay then
The Positive Posters have to respect the Negative Posters and vice versa…Language not withstanding. That is all I am trying to say
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on Jul 23, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can be negative about the game situation..
.... without personally attacking other posters and while keeping the profanity to a minimum.
That’s all I’m asking.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 23, 2008 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Believe me Al, there are lots of negative posters about the game, and they get attacked
by everyone else, even if they just express their frustration in a normal way. They are told to get out, make their own game thread, etc.
by sackings108 on Jul 23, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then everyone has to simply stop the personal attacks.
Period.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 23, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
I don’t care if they attack me. It’s when they attack the players that it bothers me.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 23, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, this is what bugs me the most, too.
I don’t get on a ton of game threads, but, when I do and see the vicious, personal attacks on Cubs players, it’s just disturbing and annoying. I know the players can’t “hear” the remarks, but that doesn’t stop the overall atmosphere from getting, well, hateful. And, of course, the posters making these remarks make them over and over and over again.
I guess my personal request to all you “negative” posters out there is: How ‘bout criticizing the play, not the player. Criticize the bad at-bat, not the batter. And if you have to criticize a player, just have some respect for the guy. I mean, he’s on our side, remember?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 23, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wholeheartedly agree
and would extend that courtesy to most of the opposing players, too.
For example, a previous poster mentions “doug the douche davis.”
Is that really necessary? Did I miss something? Isn’t this the guy who had thyroid cancer surgery and is now cancer-free?
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Jul 23, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we need to define attack the players
Cause I know that I have seen you lay into Theriot many times. I am not a Theriot apologist either…even though my screen name would apply that so this is not an attack on your or your character..
I am in total agreement that personal attacks on them or their families are uncalled for but if the attacks are based on sound baseball fundamentals, theories, statistics then those are fair games
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on Jul 23, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, I completely agree with you.
calling Riot a hitter with low power, that’s fine. Calling Soriano a mediocre fielder. Calling DeRosa a great player who presses when it’s clutch.
Calling Jim Edmonds a F@ggot should be right out.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 23, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what?
I always thought Edmonds is porkish-looking as well.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Jul 23, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree Drew.
No call for that at all. It’s disgusting.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 23, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al doesn't want this to turn into
the Angels blog. There, profanity is just about encouraged. When I suggested (during the 2005 playoffs) that using the F-Word in every other sentence regarding losses to the White Sox isn’t exactly the classiest thing to do, the blogger banned me. I suggested that people of all ages read his blog, and that even though I tend to believe in free speech, restraint might be worthwhile.
After he banned me, he wrote me an e-mail yelling at me. (“It’s MY blog and I’ll do what I want!”) Class act, over there.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 23, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some of the other sites are quite amusing
I wonder if any of the others have as many game thread overflows as we do. This site gets a lot of traffic
by Mapmaker on Jul 23, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think BCB gets the most traffic, actually.
by princefieldersdiet on Jul 23, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have we surpassed Atheltic Nation?
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When they changed this site over
to the new SBN and the guys from SBN were in here to help us the first night I asked if this site had the most posters during a game and they said by far.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 23, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was it the Toronto site?
When the Cubs played the Jays, there was just one guy by himself commenting the whole game. That was sad. Funny but sad.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 23, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do remember
someone saying something about the guy but I don’t remember which site he was on. That was sad.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 23, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's funny stuff
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Jul 23, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i think that was the jays blog
what a sad, strange thread that was
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 23, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go us!
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
great recap...
agree, marquis did his job last night with a quality start. the hitting will come back and at least the starting pitching is keeping us in these ball games. I’d be more concerned about the team’s success for the remainder of the season if the bats were quiet in these games AND we were getting blown out at the same time. The 9-2 end result was not a game we weren’t in, it just got ugly at the end.
The team WILL rebound once SORI comes back and the lineup returns to where each player is in a more comfortable role. The team did what they needed to do during SORI’s absence and that’s tread water…
GO CUBS!!
by cubbiefanTN on Jul 23, 2008 8:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"The Occassional F###"
To tell the truth, that was one reason I first came to this site. BCB seems the most reasonable and level-headed in its tone – not too sunshine and rainbows and not too smug and jaded. It still is that way, the recent Game Thread squabbles nothwithstanding. Still I will try to watch my language and lose the “I’m a better fan than you” attitude at the door.
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 23, 2008 8:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jim Edmonds
Was he acting like a pouting little kid last night? I don’t know for sure what I was seeing, but when he threw the bat at the last strike, then caught a lazy fly ball basket-style, I seemed to get the impression that he was pissed about something and basically not giving much effort at all, like he just gave up on the game.
by adam316 on Jul 23, 2008 8:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Apparently He hurt is knee
Not sure if that’s why he looked like he didn’t care because he physically couldn’t go anymore or what.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 23, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It appeared to me that he wasn't happy...
about the strike zone. Probably none too happy that the bats are struggling right now either. I doubt he gave up.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 23, 2008 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to think he would give up either
but like I said, I couldn’t tell what I was seeing, it just appeared that he was making it obvious that he was putting in minimal effort.
by adam316 on Jul 23, 2008 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His knee was sore.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 23, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really!!!
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 23, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His knee is painful.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 23, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've had a personal experience with it?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 23, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he got fooled by the change up
tried to adjust the bat speed and the bat flew out of his hands.
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Jul 23, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CUBS WILL WIN CENTRAL DIVISION
Baseball season is underway
Well you’d better get ready for a brand new day
Hey Chicago, what do you say?
The Cubs are gonna win today
They’re singing
Go Cubs Go!
Go Cubs Go!
Hey Chicago, what do you say?
The Cubs are gonna win today
Go Cubs Go!
Go Cubs Go!
Hey Chicago, what do you say?
The Cubs are gonna win today
They’ve got the power
They’ve got the speed
To be the best in the National League
Well this is the year
And the Cubs are real
So come on down to Wrigley Field
We’re singing
Go Cubs Go!
Go Cubs Go!
Hey Chicago, what do you say?
The Cubs are gonna win today
Go Cubs Go!
Go Cubs Go!
Hey Chicago, what do you say?
The Cubs are gonna win today
Baseball time is here again
You can catch it all on WGN
So stamp your feet and clap your hands
Chicago Cubs have got the greatest fans
by Cubster on Jul 23, 2008 8:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A Pleasant Tune, Although....
I would still prefer “Sweet Home Chicago” by the Blues Brothers as our victory song.
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 23, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chicago's own Ralph Covert -
In Little League I played right field
‘Cause no-one my age could hit the ball there
And my best friend led the team in hits
And I was lucky if I got to bat
Hitless through my childhood years
My baseball dreams all disappeared, but…
I always wished that I could be a Cubby
Wrigley Field, summer afternoon
In the top of the ninth I’d catch a long fly
To save the game like I could never do
And maybe someday I can be a Cubby
Even only for a day or two
I’ll sit on the bench, ‘cause that’s where I play the best
But my heart will be beating Cubby blue
But I always wished that I could be a Cubby
Wrigley Field, summer afternoon
From the bleachers to the stands
Every woman child and man
Will stand and sing with voices loud and true
And maybe someday we can watch the Cubbies
Win the World Series once again
Bases loaded in the ninth, I’ll step up to the plate
And hit the ball to Waveland Avenue
To win one for the Cubby blue
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 23, 2008 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stuff
It was good to see Fukudome have a nice game. CF in Chase Field is where baseballs go to die, how many well hit balls have ended up as outs this series out there?
Brenly seems to be right on with Aramis’s issues with his head flying all over the place, do you guys think that he would never point out that issue to a coach or Ramirez because of his position as broadcaster? I would think the Cubs actual coaches would have already noticed this but it seems to be consistently the problem.
Soriano can’t come back soon enough, maybe his presence alone will give the team a little morale boost. Watching the game last night I felt like the Cubs had about a 1% chance of hitting a hr, you can see the confidence is drained from everyone.
Lets do it Cubbies
by slocs55 on Jul 23, 2008 8:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure the coaches have noticed
It’s up to Ramirez to fix it though.
by rlpete on Jul 23, 2008 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to bow out of BCB for the forseeable future
Unfortunately, there are a half dozen or so dissenters to my posting on this sight. At least I think there are because one poster, Drewish, has taken on multiple personalities as psychotic means of gang tackling. Oh well, when the storyline becomes poster v. poster as opposed to intelligent debate about the Cubs by diehards and other interested parties? Well then it is time to remove the distraction. I’m the distraction.
Cubs should be fine. Three best teams in the NL happen to all sit in the NL Central. It will work out. Hendry has a move up his sleeve I suspect. And yes, the reentry of the guess hitting hack should prove an energizing bolt. Key right now is for Derrek Lee to stop playing like a 40 year old and for Aramis Ramirez to get going again. Key also is for Geovany Soto and Kosuke to adjust to the adjustments NL pitchers have made against them. I’m worried about Soto because he looks gassed on top of being befuddled with how he is being pitched. Kosuke will figure it out. Too good of a professional hitter not to.
Bye now.
Rich Harden Fever, Catch It !!!!!!!!!!
by MDBNIU on Jul 23, 2008 8:55 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Later....
But you do realize you simply took the easy way out, right?
by adam316 on Jul 23, 2008 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Don't Know ...
that he exactly took the easy way out … i mean what is he supposed to do ?? i think he’s just saying he’s taking a break for a while … not a problem, except i have to agree with him … i put up a post the other day about possibly hitting SORI deeper in the line-up and Drewish (or whatever his name is) really let me have it …
I’m sure he’s got great reasons and obviously a great passion for the Cubbies (as we all do) ... but he made me feel bad for even posting my thoughts …
I don’t get a chance to post/write that often … but i’m working on a fanpost about the pitching situation … we’ll see what happens …
Let’s get one tonight … GO CUBBIES !!!
"Ryno for President 08"
by ClarkFan44 on Jul 23, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Passion
Every one on this site is passionate about the Cubs. Otherwise… you would not waste your time on this site. :) A lot of people are felling frustration right now and are expressing it. That is the American way. We just all need to keep the faith as we have most of our lives. If the Cubs are to slump (which most teams do) this is the time to do it. We have a very tough schedule in September. That is when we need to be at our best. Losing in Arizona is not the end of the world. We will get back to the friendly confines and have our selves some fish fry!!
by Cubster on Jul 23, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sucks.
I gotta say, I’ve come around on your thoughts the last few weeks. I don’t always agree with you, but I think you’ve made decent points, and it’s fun to hear what non-like-minded folks think about the Cubs too.
That said, I think the problem people have with you is when you make a point, you make the same point 5-6 times in the thread. Then, when defending the point, it just escalates, mostly because of who people think you are (BlueMike) and some past performance from earlier in the year (pointing to the fact that you “know more about baseball”). I’m sorry if this seems I’m calling you out, but you kind of just called yourself out as a distraction, and I’m using you as an example, MDBNIU. We all get into our individual pissing matches, myself included.
I think we’d get along a lot better if we didn’t even have “handles” attached to our posts. Not advocating for that, but what I’m advocating for is to act as if you don’t see the “handle” attached to a post. Some made-up nickname shouldn’t be the focus of any of our posts…it should be the thoughts inside the post.
OK, getting off my MLK soapbox now, but I hope you stay around, I hope everyone stays around, and I hope everyone can tweak their posting a little to make this a nicer place for intelligent discussion.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Jul 23, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*"you" in the third paragraph is the "understood you", not "MDBNIU".
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Jul 23, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta say
I don’t agree with a lot of what you have said MDBNIU. However, this is what gets me coming back to this site. If we all agreed all of the time and showed our passion in the same way this wouldn’t be half the site it is. Hope you come back to piss me off even more in the near future :)
by jajonez77 on Jul 23, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll be back.
He’s probably watching right now, suppressing the urge to post something. He’s not that bad, he’s just the one that gets picked on here.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 23, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll be back.
Just when you least expect him….
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 23, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am the type of person
who values everyone’s opinion, including MDBNIU’s. He does have knowledge and and insight into the game that other’s don’t. since he played the game at a higher level than many. The only problem I have ever had with him is how he expressed those opinions. It’s constantly “I’m right, you’re wrong,” “I know everything, you know nothing”, etc. If he expressed his opinion and backed it with more than “I was a two year started at NIU, so I know more than you,” there would be little problem, IMO.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 23, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with his "played baseball at NIU" story is that the numbers don't jive
NIU’s baseball program was disbanded from 1983-90. He claims he played from 1981-83.
He once wrote, “Program was disbanded after my junior season. I graduated from NIU in 1985.” Again, the last year NIU had a baseball before disbandment was 1982.
He claims he was a “two year starter at 2nd base” and All-MAC his junior year. NIU never had a second baseman win All-MAC honors until Jordin Hood did it in 2007.
Here’s a list:
All-MAC
1974 John Graziano, OF (2nd)
1975 John Graziano, OF (1st); Herb Blackburn, C (HM); Mike Chapman, SS (HM); Chuck Mytich, P (HM)
1976 John Graziano, 1B (1st); Mark Agnew, C (HM); Mike Avallone, P (HM); Chris Bourjos, OF (HM)
1977 Mike Avallone, P (1st)
1979 Jeff Sevenich, 3B (2nd)
1980 Alvin Maynard, OF (1st); Mark Boothe, 1B (2nd); Jeff Sevenich, OF (2nd)
1982 Mark Boothe, 1B (2nd); Seth Richmond, OF (2nd); Al Wallace, 3B (2nd)
2001 Noel Danielson, OF (2nd)
2002 John Brock, DH (2nd)
2003 Scott Simon, DH (2nd); Mark Skrukrud, P (2nd)
2004 Joe Piekarz, P (1st); Zach Minor, P (2nd); Greg Larsen, SS (2nd)
2005 Jeremy Busch, OF (1st)
2006 Matt German, P (1st); Brian Toner, OF (1st)
2007 Matt German, P (1st); Jesse Seykora, 3B (2nd); Jordin Hood, 2B (2nd)
Now, if MDBNIU is Mark Boothe, that may be passable, but Mark was a 1B.
He also claimed that his name was on a list of All-Time Letter Winners for NIU Baseball.
But the list “has a couple of errors and omissions” and went on about some pitcher/3rd baseman named Dave McWhorter with whom he played that was All-MAC and drafted by the Pittsburg Pirates.
Well, no one named McWhorter has ever been All-MAC nor drafted by the Pirates or any other team. There was a NIU pitcher named Art Ray drafted by the Pirates in 1979.
NIU Huskies Draftees in the MLB (1979-1982)
1982 9 Pat Griffin, P Oakland Athletics
1981 21 Chuck Kolotka, P Oakland Athletics
1980 16 Thomas Roen, P California Angels
1980 43 Robert Spurlin, C San Francisco Giants
1979 9 Art Ray, P Pittsburgh Pirates
Draft Picks who came from Northern Illinois University (IL)
MDBNIU, you are a marketing genius. What other poster gets this much blog attention?
I will admit that some of your points are honesty spot on. The Rich Harden push was awesome.
And before you think I spent too much time on this, I really didn’t. It was fun. If any of it is inaccurate, please respond in a civilized manner. I will rescind if found in error.
I’m hoping you’ll return because you add color to this blog.
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Jul 23, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that's some good journalism
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
by DTJchris on Jul 23, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if he is Mark Boothe?
And his middle initial is D. Wouldn’t that explain the MDB in his name?
by adam316 on Jul 23, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So he's the guy who shot Lincoln?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 23, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he is
then we shouldn’t be listening to him at all, because he can’t tell the difference between first and second base.
Talk about baseball smarts.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 23, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Boothe was a 1B
MDBNIU claims he was an All-MAC second baseman.
I have no reason to believe that MDBNIU did not play college baseball at NIU until he started embellishing his stories with inconsistencies.
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Jul 23, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey guys, Im going to start an MDBNIU fanpost
Hold on…....
by adam316 on Jul 23, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad to see this isn't getting out of control or anything.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 23, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
stay on target
stay on target!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 23, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he was Mark Boothe
until he said he was a second baseman. Plus, Mark Boothe played from 1979-82. MDBNIU said he played from 81-83.
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Jul 23, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OOOOOOO
I’m tellin mama! And by mama, I mean Al. All seriousness though, I tried this once and Al had it deleted before I had a chance to say WTF.
Calm down.
by Kinky Reggae on Jul 23, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you actually tried to start a fanpost
with the topic being MDBNIU? That’s funny, I was only joking about doing that.
by adam316 on Jul 23, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang, and I thought I was a BlueMike obsessive.
Seriously, though, if MDBNIU is serious about leaving BCB, it would be nice if he just finally revealed himself before he disappeared into the ether.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 23, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obsession
is the wellspring of genius and madness.
Nice job, though.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa -
His Rich Harden push was awesome. Most of the board liked the idea of Harden, it was the endless “at all costs,” and give up any and all prospects to secure Harden that raised eyebrows.
Harden is excellent and welcome to Chicago, but with his history, “at all costs” was not the approach. Hendry paid a healthy price, but Veal, Vitters, the Shark, Pie and others are still in the system.
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 23, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't go, we need somebody who actually says the truth once in a while.
by princefieldersdiet on Jul 23, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So everyone else on the site is a liar?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 23, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, but he says what he thinks about the team, and doesn't back down from it.
more what I meant.
by princefieldersdiet on Jul 23, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, I see what you mean...
...but sometimes admitting when you’re wrong is the best way to build your credibility.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 23, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...the rest of us never do that.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 23, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's too bad
You’re far and away the most entertaining poster on this site. That said, I do understand why you’re leaving.
by cubsbak on Jul 23, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goodbye for now, MDBNIU...
...but I don’t believe this for a second. You’ll be back – either as MDBNIU or Mike_NIU_guy or CubbieMikey or someone or another. I find it rather odd that you’re just now getting sensitive to all the criticism of your posts. Here’s an idea: Why not fix your attitude instead of running away all sullen and whiny.
See, folks, BlueMike here is a classic example of how NOT to present yourself to an online community. Don’t come in all arrogant, pretentious, patronizing and condescending. Don’t come to teach people things – come here to learn, to question and to share. And, hey, have a sense of humor – it really helps! Because, if you depict yourself as BlueMike has, you’re going to attract scorn and, eventually, no one will take you seriously.
See ya when I see ya, guy. You’ve played the part of the villain well – now you’re just playing the part of the victim.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 23, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude.
Did you not read?
Getting personal on posts is exactly what is making this a not fun place.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Jul 23, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The personal attack notwithstanding,
he is right about how not to present yourself to an online community.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 23, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
davers been here longer than all of us, and dealt w/ most of Mike's crap.
He probably has more to say on the subject than we do.
by princefieldersdiet on Jul 23, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But what's the point in saying it?
It’s only fueling the flames of an “I’m right, your wrong” argument.
Arguments of perception of one’s correctness can never be resolved.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Jul 23, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well apparently Mike is gone, so there's no argument to be had.
They both got in a last word on the subject, and now we can move on.
by princefieldersdiet on Jul 23, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
I’m not arguing, just making my closing statements on a very amusing character who I may or may not miss, depending on what kind of mood I’m in.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 23, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, terrible grammar today.
“you’re wrong”
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Jul 23, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
Daver, Drewish and SWL all struggled with BM/MBDNIU stating a single opinion, repeatedly, and only backing it up with his baseball experience.
It wasn’t the opinion, it was the delivery, tone, dismissing of other opinions and arguments.
That said, he’s come and gone too many times to track.
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 23, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhhh
the ol “davers been here longer than all of us” defense.
Typical.
Calm down.
by Kinky Reggae on Jul 23, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you saying there's no applicable legal precedent?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 23, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be willing to cite
Daver v. KOW.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We settled that one off site...
...and I’m not at liberty to disclose the terms.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 23, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't trying to get personal...
...I was trying to be honest. I mean, come on, he’s been the villain of BCB for some time now. I’m not saying he’s evil in real life – I have no idea what he’s like in real life. But, time and time again, he cultivated that role here with his attitude and lack of sense of humor. (Repetition is his forte.)
At some point, you just have to call certain people on their behavior. That’s all I’m doing. I wish him the best, I really do. It’s just a pity he couldn’t learn from his mistakes.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 23, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get what you were trying to do.
But I dunno…I was hoping with Al’s post today, we could maybe move on. I think we’ve all (myself included) done our fair share of calling him out.
Hopefully someday (maybe still today!) we can dig our collective heel in the dirt and stop the last word getting and personal attacks.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Jul 23, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, now your doing the last word bit. just move on.
by princefieldersdiet on Jul 23, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, not what I intended.
I was intending to let Daver know that I wasn’t personally attacking him and was trying to cushion what he maybe took as harsh from me.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Jul 23, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I have to say is
you were only “gang tackled” when it was very apparent in your posts that you were talking/writing down to people, which happened quite often.
It’s like Rasheed Wallace, he has developed a reputation for being a jerk and therefore he isn’t given the benefit of the doubt. Have your own opinions and tell people you think they are wrong but be respectful in the way you express your ideas.
Until next time MDBNIU, God Speed.
Lets do it Cubbies
by slocs55 on Jul 23, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you just don't like it
when you’re proved wrong, or called on it when you say something utterly dumb.
Bye.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 23, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
smooth
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 23, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BlueMike
reaped what he sowed. He’ll be back, as NIU-College-Ball-Player or BMSP#34, or something. People like him don’t walk out in a huff and actually go away, they pretend to walk out in a huff and then eavesdrop, muttering in outraged whispers about how terribly their being treated.
Which is too bad, because if he never set foot here again, I’d be good with that.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 23, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel the same way.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 23, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You Can Leave In A Huff
If that’s too soon, you can leave in a minute and a huff.
-Groucho, “Duck Soup”
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 23, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont go. Honestly. You know you love it.
Plus who is going to stir ‘the drink”
See ya soon though, this isnt the first time youve proclaimed this. GO CUBS. We can agree on that.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Jul 23, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a slump- that's all.
It happens to all hitters. It just sucks when so many slump at the same time. The good news is that the guys who are slumping mainly- Dome, Soto, DLee, Rami are all bonafide quality hitters who prior to this were not playing above their heads and are now coming to earth. They will all hit well again and at the same time for periods at a time just like earlier in the season.
D. Lee’s groundball rate is up- last time I checked it was about 47%- add to that the increased men on base this year and you get DPs like mad. He hit into 12 DPs in the second half of last season, which was a very high rate compared to his career numbers. I remember him saying something last season about not hitting the ball in the air as a response to his power outage early last year. He does worry me- but he is a professional hitter who should figure it out.
"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher
by The Lip on Jul 23, 2008 8:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pie...
Do you think we see him soon (if his injury last night wasn’t serious), or not until September? He’s been hitting better in AAA lately and his energy and speed could inject some life back into our offense.
"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 23, 2008 9:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably not until September
Outfield is pretty full with Sori coming back, RJ, Ed, Dome. Especially when DeRo can spot start.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 23, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeRo hasn't looked like much of an OF lately.
Perhaps he could spell D. Lee occasionally. That guy needs a mental break. Just go home for a while.
by D98 on Jul 23, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the word is, he just hurt his ankle in Triple A.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 23, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am going to change the Cubs Mojo...
I will be placing a wager for the Diamondbacks to win tonight. The gambling gods never let me win a wager so – there you have it – the Cubs will win tonight.
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
by HIGGY on Jul 23, 2008 9:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
In 10 years, maybe there’ll be a way for us to pass the hat on a group BCB wager on the Diamondbacks.
I have pretty crappy luck too.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Jul 23, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone send me money by Paypal
and I’ll be glad to place a wager on the groups’s behalf at the bookies down the street!
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on Jul 23, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you bet the Cubs to lose the WS, too?
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mahay
would be a great add. I’m in KC and see him pitch often. Solid lefty.
"Let's not get giggly." - Lou
by tdubcub on Jul 23, 2008 9:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My brother-in-law faced Mahay
in high school, and said that Mahay’s curve ball was the reason he would never get to the bigs. He saw it three times- the first two resulted in my brother-in-law on his seat while the ball dropped in for a strike, and the third a wild flailing at strike three.
That said- Mahay is a solid lefty, and his numbers against rightys are good, as well.
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
by SouthsideCub on Jul 23, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't even given up a run since June 27
I’m sure KC is willing to move him. Get it done Hendry.
"Let's not get giggly." - Lou
by tdubcub on Jul 23, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, FWIW...
... a few trivia bits about Mahay:
- He is a converted outfielder
- He was a replacement player during the strike of 94-95 (I think he’s the last active player who was a replacement player)
- This would be his second go around with the Cubs. He pitched fairly well in 17 appearances in 2001, then badly in 2002, then was released.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 23, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'd be ok, but I think our bullpen can survive.
As long as we’re talking KC, I’d rather have one of their fine young outfielders. Edmonds and Johnson may not be back next year, and the jury is still out on Pie.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 23, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't you get the memo?
Apparently KC thinks they are either in it, or they have just decided they are possibly buyers rather than sellers. That was what I read though. Right after the memo on my TPS reports.
Calm down.
by Kinky Reggae on Jul 23, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they're still riding high
on sweeping the Cards during IP.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 23, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roster Moves?
So with Fonzie coming back, and Lieber coming off the DL (Sunday?), does that mean Hart and Hoff back down? Where does that leave Eyre?
Noticed that Leiber had a 3 inning stint with the A ball team, and Eyre with 1 inning pitched for the same team. Are they shopping Leiber as a spot starter in a possible trade? Some type of decision has to be made b/n Lieber and Eyre it looks like, unless they’re sending Marshall back to AAA, too.
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
by carmen_fanzone on Jul 23, 2008 9:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hart and Hoff
both looked terrible last night. I’m fine with either or both.
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 23, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lieber...
... is ELIGIBLE to come off the DL. Just because the 15 days are up doesn’t mean he’s ready to come back.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 23, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right...
...but how long does a team typically have to make that decision once a player comes off the DL? (I’m asking because I don’t know the answer). More “rehab starts”? We can’t really stretch this out too much longer (maybe the trading deadline?), can we?
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
by carmen_fanzone on Jul 23, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that once they start a rehab assignment
they have 30 days….
If a player feels that the team is jerking him around and he is ready to come off the DL he can always contact the players union.
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on Jul 23, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
F I S H
Just when you think things could not be worse….... The Marlins come to town this week
end….. I watch this team a lot. They are going to be real tough. Young scrappy team
with depth that they haven’t had in recent years.
by nimblenikelfoos on Jul 23, 2008 9:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's worry about the Napkins...
when they get to Wrigley. In the meantime, let’s remember that with the Cubs going through a team slump, it can’t get much worse. So really, there is nowhere to look but up. Lou won’t let this go on much longer, and the team will respond like they did last year. Fonzie should be, (I hope), back tonight, and the slump has to end some time. It’s a good thing that the boys got off to a good start. They’ll right the ship, they’ll be okay.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 23, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better the slump
happens now than in Sept.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 23, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
100% agreed
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 23, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like Al says, its a marathon not a sprint. Keep looking at the big/long picture
The Cubs still have the 2nd best W/L percentage. That hasn’t changed much. We have some great players this year, and a really good team overall. It’s easy to get down after games like the last two but it’s a long season. Let’s not lose track of that. The best is yet to come.
GoCubsGo
by MinnesotaFan on Jul 23, 2008 9:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate that saying.
People always said that about Dusty’s managerial style, too – when he’d bench 2 position players every day in order to “keep everyone fresh” for the stretch run that never arrived. I still have no idea how he got Jose Macias into 112 games in 2005, but there it is.
Every year we’d hear “it’s only May! It’s a marathon, not a sprint…”, then “it’s not even the ASB”, then “wait until the trade deadline…”, then “well, wait until next year.”
I much prefer Lou’s managerial style – win every game you can, right now. Carpe Diem. At the end of the season, wins in May & June count just as much as wins in September.
As much as these recent losses hurt, it’s nothing compared to the Dusty years, when we’d lose games because of our own counter-productive in-game strategies and “keepin’ em fresh” lineups.
by D98 on Jul 23, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
While "WIN NOW"...
... a la Lou is a fine idea, one must remember that it IS a marathon, not a sprint, and even good teams go through tough stretches.
That’s all this is, one of those. That’s what I mean when I say that phrase, not the Dusty meaning.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 23, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's definitely a marathon, but ...
I suspect Lou managed a lot of those earlier games with a sense of urgency because he wanted a cushion when, as would inevitably happen, the Cubs hit a rough patch. Better to have had a 4.5-game lead in the division when it came than, say, a one- or two-game lead.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 23, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs