Pregame Thread: Cubs vs. Diamondbacks, Wednesday 7/23, 8:40 CT
Chicago @ Arizona
When Ted Lilly was last on the Bank Holding Company Field mound, this is what we saw:

I trust we won't see a repeat of either thing in that photo -- neither a Chris Young HR nor a Lilly tantrum -- tonight. Hey, Ted, some advice for you: whatever pitch you threw to Young that night -- and again in the first Cubs/D'backs meeting this year, when he homered again off you -- DON'T THROW IT AGAIN!
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Doug Davis had a bout with thyroid cancer earlier this year, but it's apparently in remission. I'm glad Davis has survived cancer. Now go beat the daylights out of him tonight! Alfonso Soriano, who will (hopefully) be in the starting lineup tonight, is 5-for-14 (.357/.400/.571) with a HR against Davis.
The kicker about that photo? Chris Young is only 1-for-6 in his career during the regular season vs. Lilly. Yes, that one hit was also a HR, hit on May 9 at Wrigley Field, the only run the D'backs scored off Lilly that day, one of Ted's best starts of the season (he struck out ten).
Today's game is on CSN Chicago and FSN Arizona, on EI and at the MLB.com Mediacenter.
MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)
MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Today's first pitch thread, as the last two nights, goes up at 8:30 pm CT, and the overflow comment threads will post at 10 pm and 11 pm CT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Hurst

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
by DTJchris on Jul 23, 2008 5:35 PM CDT 0 recs
well done sir
"Something about dopey Cubs fans just turns me on". -Not Bruce Froemming
by TheRamZamDLEE on
Jul 23, 2008 6:03 PM CDT
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thank you
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
by DTJchris on
Jul 23, 2008 6:07 PM CDT
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Classic Yellow-on-Black CA Plates
Gives the pic just the right grace note. :-)
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on
Jul 23, 2008 6:21 PM CDT
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That video clip is priceless....
..an unfortunate reminder of how foolish Theodore looked that night.
I met Chris Young at a customer event in November of 2007 and the first question I asked him was about the Ted Lilly and Rich Hill HR’s in the NLDS. (very nice guy, BTW)
I asked him if he was looking for certain pitch when hit those HR’s and he replied, “Not at all, I was going up there swinging no matter what they were throwing”
So I guess that would be my scouting report for the Cubs on CY, avoid throwing the belt high fastballs…. ;)
"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08
by JB 23 on Jul 23, 2008 5:41 PM CDT 0 recs
"avoiding belt high fastballs"
sounds like sound advice regardless of whos up and whos on the mound.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 23, 2008 6:22 PM CDT
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DAVIS
(serously) LIGHT HIM UP and HARD
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Jul 23, 2008 5:49 PM CDT 0 recs
amen!
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on
Jul 23, 2008 6:32 PM CDT
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Oh good
We always fare well against soft-tossing lefties…
by AceCubbie on Jul 23, 2008 5:56 PM CDT 0 recs
Throwing
I throw my controller just like that whenever virtual Lilly gives up a bomb in MLB the Show 07.
In the middle of a good time, Truth gave me her icy kiss. Look around, you must be joking. All that way, all that way for this -Oysterband
by Ross on Jul 23, 2008 5:57 PM CDT 0 recs
I think i've thrown my controller..
for less but yea i usually have the same reaction.
"Go Cubs Go"
by mkcubs21 on
Jul 23, 2008 6:00 PM CDT
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I'm sorry..
any highlights from last years playoffs make me cringe but I can’t help but laugh everytime I see Lilly spiking his glove. just looks so funny.
"Go Cubs Go"
by mkcubs21 on Jul 23, 2008 5:58 PM CDT 0 recs
He really does look like...
a 16-year-old girl throwing her purse after finding out someone else wore the same dress to the prom
Pluto will always be a planet to me!
by DaBard on
Jul 23, 2008 5:59 PM CDT
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he does..
but its just so funny to see him see the ball hit the bat, turn and throw the glove as hard as he threw that pitch lol.
"Go Cubs Go"
by mkcubs21 on
Jul 23, 2008 6:01 PM CDT
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glad i missed it..
I drove from LA to see game one, but went home instead of staying for game 2. It was a good choice, in retrospect.
In the middle of a good time, Truth gave me her icy kiss. Look around, you must be joking. All that way, all that way for this -Oysterband
by Ross on
Jul 23, 2008 5:59 PM CDT
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My friend threw a chair at the same time Lilly threw his glove.
Thankfully I get to laugh about both of those things now.
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by nji232 on
Jul 23, 2008 6:02 PM CDT
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We probably want the Cardinals to win tonight
But again we need to take care of our stuff.
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by nji232 on Jul 23, 2008 5:59 PM CDT 0 recs
either we need to win..
b/c otherwise we are tied for first with whichever team wins.
"Go Cubs Go"
by mkcubs21 on
Jul 23, 2008 6:01 PM CDT
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sorry thats suppose to be either way we need to win.
"Go Cubs Go"
by mkcubs21 on
Jul 23, 2008 6:02 PM CDT
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The Cards are two back right?
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by nji232 on
Jul 23, 2008 6:03 PM CDT
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anyone else feel a bit dirty cheering for the Cards?
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on
Jul 23, 2008 6:04 PM CDT
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Who's "cheering" for them?
I’m more concerned about us winning than anyone else losing.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 23, 2008 6:05 PM CDT
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True the Cards/Brewers are very much a secondary concern overall tonight.
but I will probably listen to the first hour of the Cards/Brewers game since the Cubs game isn’t until 8:40.
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on
Jul 23, 2008 6:11 PM CDT
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Hey they did help us last September by beating the Brewers
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by nji232 on
Jul 23, 2008 6:05 PM CDT
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you're right my bad..
well the point stands we still need a win lol
"Go Cubs Go"
by mkcubs21 on
Jul 23, 2008 6:05 PM CDT
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The five year recovery rate
for most thyroid cancers is 90%, thank goodness, so Davis should be OK.
I remember Lilly throwing his glove down and thought it to be out of character. Fortunately, he hasn’t had a repeat (has he?) since then.
Whatever the Cubs do tonight they must do one thing and one thing only: WIN
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on Jul 23, 2008 6:03 PM CDT 0 recs
Now he jumps up and down when he thinks he messed up
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by nji232 on
Jul 23, 2008 6:03 PM CDT
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or start sobbing and runs into the dugout
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
by DTJchris on Jul 23, 2008 6:04 PM CDT 0 recs
oops, that was a reply to nji232
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
by DTJchris on
Jul 23, 2008 6:06 PM CDT
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I'll never forger the Lilly glove slam
He was sooo solid last year, that was out of character to say the least. Even Lou said he never seen a pitcher do that before. That left an awful taste in my mouth for the entire offseason.
"Something about dopey Cubs fans just turns me on". -Not Bruce Froemming
by TheRamZamDLEE on Jul 23, 2008 6:08 PM CDT 0 recs
The glove slam was that big of a deal to you?
That’s what you tasted the entire offseason? Not like…say…getting run out of the playoffs because our offense forgot they had to score to win games?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 23, 2008 6:11 PM CDT
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Well that is what comes to mind
1st when I think of that awful post season. Obviously that coupled with getting bounced and looking like chumps in the process was what left that vinegaresque taste in my mouth.
"Something about dopey Cubs fans just turns me on". -Not Bruce Froemming
by TheRamZamDLEE on
Jul 23, 2008 6:14 PM CDT
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At First I Thought The Glove Slam Was Stupid
My initial reaction was “great, way to look like a Little Leaguer out there, Ted”. But y’know what…I would probably have done the same thing in that situation. Which is why I’d make a lousy professional athlete – I’d always be getting upset like that if I screwed up and slam my glove, destroy the water cooler, etc..
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on
Jul 23, 2008 6:18 PM CDT
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Agreed - not sure what the big deal was
In the heat of the moment, Lilly realized he threw a bad pitch and reacted. Hitters throw their helmets all the time…I just don’t see what it really matters or was terribly noteworthy. It was just a way to express momentary frustration. There are obviously a host of problems with how the team played against AZ last October, but that doesn’t really measure up in my view.
by ethicsmax on
Jul 23, 2008 6:16 PM CDT
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It's the image, I just can't shake it
I just see it and have nightmares of from last years post season. Damn animated gif’s
"Something about dopey Cubs fans just turns me on". -Not Bruce Froemming
by TheRamZamDLEE on
Jul 23, 2008 6:20 PM CDT
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the glove slam
is pretty iconic.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on
Jul 23, 2008 6:34 PM CDT
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Well...when I saw it in Al's gamethread i was like...
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As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 23, 2008 6:35 PM CDT
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wow... he gives a great eye
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on
Jul 23, 2008 6:38 PM CDT
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remarkably calm around here today, no?
wonder if AL is working overtime deleting crazy fanposts or something
Edmonds-o-Meter discontinued
by joeschmitt on Jul 23, 2008 6:28 PM CDT 0 recs
i think we've just gotten some distance between
us and yesterday’s game. thats one of my favorite things about baseball: theres another game tomorrow. losses sting but they don’t linger and drive you nuts waiting for sunday again.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 23, 2008 6:30 PM CDT
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i figured all the nutjobs / brewers trolls would be out today
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by joeschmitt on
Jul 23, 2008 6:33 PM CDT
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They won't pop out of their knuckerholes...
until we’re losing the game.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 23, 2008 6:34 PM CDT
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oh. they will be
if the brewers win. or if we don’t play well again. but not yet.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 23, 2008 6:34 PM CDT
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then it's time to play
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on
Jul 23, 2008 6:36 PM CDT
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It's a shame they dont have those things for former bosses or boyfriends LOL
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on
Jul 23, 2008 7:40 PM CDT
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Time to change the talk away from last year's playoff series that I choose to ignore.
The Fonz is gonna be back tonight!
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by nji232 on Jul 23, 2008 6:28 PM CDT 0 recs
confirmed?
or hope?
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on
Jul 23, 2008 6:34 PM CDT
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Hope, although the Sun-times pretty much said he was gonna be back.
I have been hoping since Monday tho
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by nji232 on
Jul 23, 2008 6:36 PM CDT
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its confirmed
i’m hoping.
lol. no news yet that i’ve seen.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 23, 2008 6:36 PM CDT
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Bruce Miles says...
Ayyyyy!!!!! I’m back, Cunningham!
"I don't want hope. Hope is killing me. My dream is to become hopeless. When you're hopeless you don't care. And when you don't care, that indifference makes you attractive." ~George Costanza
by Goodie1969 on
Jul 23, 2008 6:51 PM CDT
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nice try...we'll call it a foul tip...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 23, 2008 6:53 PM CDT
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That is just...creepy.
"I don't want hope. Hope is killing me. My dream is to become hopeless. When you're hopeless you don't care. And when you don't care, that indifference makes you attractive." ~George Costanza
by Goodie1969 on
Jul 23, 2008 6:54 PM CDT
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thats SWL's speciality
funny & random w/ a nice dose of creepy.
he’s a master.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 23, 2008 6:55 PM CDT
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I humbly prostrate myself!
"I don't want hope. Hope is killing me. My dream is to become hopeless. When you're hopeless you don't care. And when you don't care, that indifference makes you attractive." ~George Costanza
by Goodie1969 on
Jul 23, 2008 6:56 PM CDT
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Also don't forget to have your yearly prostrate exam when your done!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 23, 2008 6:58 PM CDT
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See: random, funny and a dash of creepy.
Although… the definition of “dash” seems to vary.
:shudder:
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 23, 2008 6:59 PM CDT
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that look on that guys face is a big heap of creepy.
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
by carmen_fanzone on
Jul 23, 2008 7:03 PM CDT
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is it time to start the old debate ---
is this is a must better win game?
Edmonds-o-Meter discontinued
by joeschmitt on Jul 23, 2008 6:32 PM CDT 0 recs
Yeah because sole possesion of first place could be on the line
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by nji232 on
Jul 23, 2008 6:33 PM CDT
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they BETTER win
just for their own mental health. Well at least mine. This whole “can’t score on the road” thing is driving me nuts.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 23, 2008 6:35 PM CDT
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See above
must
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on
Jul 23, 2008 6:37 PM CDT
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twitter is down for maintanice
no updates avail from wittenmyer. :sigh:
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 23, 2008 6:37 PM CDT 0 recs
Help us Bruce Miles you're our only hope!
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by nji232 on
Jul 23, 2008 6:39 PM CDT
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good link job china!
For those lazy/busy:
Soriano & Eyre activated, Hart & Hoff optioned back to Iowa
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 23, 2008 6:51 PM CDT
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (in my best Ron Santo voice)
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by nji232 on
Jul 23, 2008 6:52 PM CDT
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Helps the bullpen most def
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by carmen_fanzone on
Jul 23, 2008 7:01 PM CDT
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As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 23, 2008 6:53 PM CDT
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w00t!
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on
Jul 23, 2008 7:00 PM CDT
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Over/under on the Soriano k's
before the angst from Cubdom begins?
I’m setting it at 2. Whatcha think?
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 23, 2008 6:57 PM CDT 0 recs
+1
and two groundouts.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on
Jul 23, 2008 6:58 PM CDT
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I'm gonna say...
the jumpers will show if he k’s in his first ab




