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One At A Time: Cubs 10, Diamondbacks 6

If you have been reading the "Cubs 2008 Walk Watch" box on the right sidebar since I posted it on May 18 after the Cubs had drawn seven walks and scored all four of their runs in a 4-3 victory via hitters who had walked, yesterday was a significant day.

The Cubs drew five walks in their 10-6 win over the Diamondbacks, increasing the season total to 398 -- incidentally, that number leads the major leagues -- and surpassed the entire season total in Dusty "Hackmaster" Baker's last season as manager in 2006.

With sixty-one games to go.

The Cubs are still a bit short of the pace they'd need to break the club record (650 in 1975) -- they're on pace to draw 638 walks. But the patience they showed last night helped; Kosuke Fukudome is suddenly looking better, as he did in the first half of the season, and the Cubs worked deep counts much of the night.

Fukudome, of course, wasn't the offensive star -- that note goes to Reed Johnson, who singled and doubled and then in the 8th inning, hit a grand slam that put the game out of reach even when Lou trotted Bob Howry out there again. I'm not sure what's wrong with Howry -- either he's hurt or he's done, and no matter which it is, the Cubs have a decision to make. Perhaps they could put Howry on the DL and bring up Jeff Samardzija; this Tribune article suggests the Shark might be coming up, although not for Howry, but for the still-unavailable Kerry Wood:

He would give Lou Piniella another power arm to use in front of Carlos Marmol and Bob Howry if Wood is forced onto the disabled list for the upcoming series against the Marlins and Brewers.

"With a lot of guys you might have questions about, 'How's he going to handle [the pressure]?' " Cubs assistant general manager Randy Bush said. "But with [Samardzija], you just think he'll handle it well."

In the meantime, Lou is going to have to slot Chad Gaudin ahead of Howry -- I can understand why Lou sent Howry out there with a seven-run lead, because where else are you going to find out whether the guy can still pitch or not? Unfortunately, it meant that Marmol had to throw the 9th inning on a night when he'd probably have stayed in the bullpen.

Ted Lilly looked pretty good last night -- almost better at the plate than on the mound; he had a seeing-eye RBI single, tying the game at 2, in the Cubs' three-run fifth (after they had coughed up the 1-0 lead they had on Derrek Lee's first HR in 26 games), advanced to 2nd on a groundout by Alfonso Soriano (which gave the Cubs the lead), then stole third uncontested and scored on Ryan Theriot's groundout. It wasn't his best outing of the year, but it was good enough to give him his 10th win of the year, joining Carlos Zambrano and Ryan Dempster in double figures.

Speaking of Soriano, do not underestimate the value of his return, even though he had just one hit and the RBI groundout. In Carrie Muskat's recap on the Cubs' website, Reed Johnson said:

"He makes it fun to come to work. I think everybody will say he's just a presence and a leader for us. Any time you have a guy like that out, it's tough on you."

Yeah, I know. Can't measure that on a stat sheet, etc. etc. etc. But you can't put numbers on the psychological lift every player wearing blue, red and gray last night got when they saw Soriano (who, admittedly, looked a little tentative in the field) in the starting lineup, something that also allowed Lou to shift things around and post some semblance of what's likely to be the lineup for the rest of the season. I like Fukudome hitting sixth, as he did last night, or seventh on days when Jim Edmonds is playing -- and Edmonds wasn't available last night, having a sore knee, though he probably would have sat against the LHP Doug Davis anyway.

So the Cubs come home still in first place, one game ahead of the red-hot Brewers, who have got to cool off eventually. (Right?) The Cubs' 37-12 home record will come in handy for the next 18 days, during which they will play 17 games, 13 of them at home.

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by cubsluver22 on Jul 24, 2008 8:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Homesweethome

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Jul 24, 2008 8:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Soriano

Having Soriano back completes this team. Suddenly when he comes back everybody pretty much plays to their potential. Nice to see. Good win to keep sole posession of first.

by adam316 on Jul 24, 2008 8:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess I was teetering closer to the ledge than I thought.

I didn’t realize how tense I was during the last few innings last night until the final out. Sweet relief a win.

Mostly Positives: Lots of hits (Lee, Ramirez, Fukodome, Soto, Soriano etc.), Avoid the sweep.

Time to hang tough and get back in rhythm versus a good team in the marlins and then four tough games in Sausage town.

PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!

by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 8:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

im the same way

I was watching the game with my girlfriend last night and I realized I was starting to freak out too much. That’s why I decided to simply step away from the game and let things happen on their own. Needless to say I was very happy when I turned it back on a little later and saw it was 6-3 with the bases loaded.

I think a lot of us (myself included) need to step outside of the daily grind from time to time and look at the big picture more.

---AC 00 00 00 - Believe

by mjk83 on Jul 24, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I couldn't watch that game at all.

I had it on, but just couldn’t watch. First time all season. I flipped away constantly. I did see the slam.
Turned away in the 9th. Figured I’d sleep on it and find out what happened in the AM. Didn’t need the frustration.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 24, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

I decided not to watch the game after the previous games. Maybe I should not watch the game more often.

by dr stabbingworth on Jul 24, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I was still in my "Chase Field Funk"...

...until the Cubs went up 5-3 in the eighth. Then I started thinkin’, “OK, they’ve scored five runs. That should do it against this (usually) low-scoring D’Backs team.” Fortunately, the team had a little more to show me.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone mentioned this below as well

but I remember seeing Howry warming up in the bullpen at the beginning of the 8th and thinking that our one run lead just won’t cut it. I too was in the Chase-Field Funk until the cubs had their three run lead, and was downright giddy after Reed hit the grand-salami.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 24, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great win last night

I wasn’t able to watch most the game but turned on the radio right when Lilly got the single (then the base-hit). I saw the inning where RJ got the Grand Salami, but I really can’t believe what is happening with Howry. I always thought of him as pretty reliable, but this season he is proving me wrong. Cotts looked great though. Glad to see our bats are back.

by GoCubbies34 on Jul 24, 2008 8:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That roadtrip was a nightmare

Both teams we played, played WAY better than they normally do, and the Cubs played far worse than they normally do.

Here’s hoping we take 3 of 4 from the Marlins (I think Z, Dempster AND Harden will all pitch in this series, so that’s not a stretch), and get this thing back on track.

And it wouldn’t hurt, ahem, if the Brewers lost a game very now and then.

*Synth intro to "Jump"*

by SouthsideCub on Jul 24, 2008 8:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Howry

I’d tend to agree with you, it is probably time for them to cut him loose. But I know what Pinella and Howry are hoping: he’s looked this bad before, and then somehow pulls it together and runs of a several week streak of solid performances. They are clearly waiting to see signs of it, but with an ERA over 5 I think that hope is growing rather dim.

by BeltwayCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 8:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's Go Cubs!

We’re home for 13 of 17, let’s enjoy some home cooking and put a little distance between us and the Brewers/Cardinals.

by DWChaney on Jul 24, 2008 8:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cott's

Has done a nice job,

Bull pen was the strong a few months back, let hope it returns

I've been bleeding double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers

by parrotinct on Jul 24, 2008 8:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah...

I am so connected to this team, I actually let the last few losses affect my day… Silly me, with the Cub love. It feels so good to be coming off a win last night. They really played well. Fonzie made contact, although he had only one hit. D.Lee didn’t hit into a double play. Ramirez got a hit, (really should be 2 hits, but they called that one an error- tough error). Lilly pitched well, got a hit, even stole a base… Now for the Marlins… Time to fry those fish up, and serve them! I reserve special hatred for the Florida Marlins, as I’m sure many of you do… I think the Cubs should easily be able to take two of three, (at home, Marlin’s pitching not so strong this year). If I had to guess with the way they’re talking, they might bring the Shark up to sub for Kerry if he has to go on the DL. At first I thought, bad idea; but bringing him up for limited duty, with a defined role- could be beneficial to him. Depending on how he pitches, it could also be beneficial to the team. We’ll see…

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 9:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

my thoughts/hopes with Shark is..

something like what Joba was to the Yankees last year. When he came up he was lights out and just gave that bullpen/team a huge jolt. Hopefully same thing happens with Shark this year. Give them a reason to keep him in the majors

"Go Cubs Go"

by mkcubs21 on Jul 24, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he is 70% of what Joba was for the Yankees last year

Look out

Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs

by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never heard of this

“Joba” guy. I just wish the national media would give him a mention so us hicks know what’s happening in the North East.

PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!

by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts exactly...

Bringing up Shark and putting him in the pen smacks of papelbon in Boston as well in ‘06. The more I think about this, the more convinced I get that they are going to do this. It makes a lot of sense. See what ya got, before you make a trade. If he’s lights out, you got a guy for the rest of the year that you don’t have to trade anybody for.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shark....

Im happy to see Shark possibly get a chance.

Btw I cant remember who it was in one of the fanposts who said he bets anyone a beer etc he doesnt get called up before September 1st. I responded that I’d take that bet, but wanted a malt. If that person would admit to it….. I am going to look to collect on that malt. LOL

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 24, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With almost any other very young, rookie pitcher...

...I might be inclined to argue against bringing him up. But The Shark has been in big game situations before (albeit in a different sport), and I think he just might have the mental toughness to have some good outings in a late-season pennant race.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marmol

I just watched the ninth inning on mlb.tv and Marmol’s slider was looking rather White Castle-ish again last night. He really made Chad Tracy (the last out of the game) look silly on three straight sliders. Apparently Marmol just needed a little bit of rest to that he could get back on top of that pitch and have it break downward again.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 24, 2008 9:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That was the first thing I watched this morning

His slider isn’t QUITE back to the frisbee it was at the beginning of the season, but it’s getting closer. (Plesac made the best comment about Marmol’s early year slider- he said that even had Marmol told a hitter “I’m going to throw you three straight sliders” and then did it, the batter’s knees would buckle on every pitch). That said, I liked seeing Tracy on one knee after striking out, it shows how good the movement on that pitch was.

This is important because Kerry somehow developed a blister that transcends medical treatment.

*Synth intro to "Jump"*

by SouthsideCub on Jul 24, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL...

“a blister that transcends medical treatment”... I got a chuckle out of this.

"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."

by CubsBullsBears on Jul 24, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kerry Wood's entire body transcends medical treatment. The

entire medical establishment is amazed at how a minor malady like a blister can transform into a condition that can keep a professional athlete from fuctioning in any normal manner. Astounding!

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm shocked...

That something like New Skin or even crazy glue wouldn’t help this? Besides that, it’s been almost 2 weeks, it should’ve healed by now.

"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."

by CubsBullsBears on Jul 24, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the problem is that...

they thought it was healed, but it opened up again. Now it has to heal all over again.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had a blister on my thumb from playing golf

that lasted a month. Not surprised. That is after multiple times of popping it too.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not like he's had to throw a baseball

on a regular basis anytime in the past, say, 20 years.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

plz to be tellink me

if you are beink sarcastic.

What a country!

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sarcasm is my middle name!

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow...

That’s cool. How did your parents know…......

PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!

by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just lucky I guess.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You'd think...

His fingers would have callused up and been used to this. Josh Beckett used to have this problem also, maybe Kerry should give him a call… or use Alou’s remedy?

"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."

by CubsBullsBears on Jul 24, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to admit...

...I’ve had this same thought. It seems like there should be some sort of synthetic material they can cover it with that would enable him to pitch. I’ll of course defer to the medical experts on this, however.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it may be that

the blister is causing irritation of a nerve underneath. My understanding is that the skin is long since healed, but that the new skin has left exposed a nerve in the finger.

This is seriously ridiculous- it should not take three weeks to heal one blister.

*Synth intro to "Jump"*

by SouthsideCub on Jul 24, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds about right.

Sometimes it takes a while to totally heal a blister… I think they just want to be sure that when they get Kerry back, they don’t have to worry that they’ll lose him again for any part of the stretch run. They want to get another good arm in the bull pen, and to get it from a position of strength.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The synth intro to "Jump" is titled "1984"

Not to be a know it all, thought you might want to know. Fitting though, huh?

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, not to further nitpick...

...but, as I recall, “1984” was actually a separate (instrumental) track that led off the album and played just before “Jump” on that album.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are correct.

It was a separate track, that played just before “Jump”, but almost ran together with the beginning of “Jump”. I think this is why people think it is just a synth intro to “Jump”.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever it is

whenever I hear it, it gives me goose bumps. It reminds me of the excitement of watching a game in the middle of summer when I was a kid. I knew Ryno and the rest were just moments away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e-vgQSqNtA

*Synth intro to "Jump"*

by SouthsideCub on Jul 24, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It gives my goose bumps as well...

That ‘84 year was great. What a joy they were to watch every day. I wish they would play that at the ballpark or on the telecasts…

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That poor goose...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My how funny typos can be...

I’m making an appt. today for my goose at the vet.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's A Little Known Fact

cue Cliff Claven….

Talkin’ about instrumentals and opening tracks – the famous instrumental that they played during Bulls player introductions is called “Sirius” by the Alan Parsons Project, and if you let it play out on the album it segues right into “Eye In The Sky”.

Eat More Katsui

by CaliCub on Jul 24, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree.

Tracy looked ridiculously overmatched in that AB.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wewt!

I had to go to sleep last night early; we’re exhausted going through my wife’s recovery.

But! When I went to sleep, it was 4-3, Lilly was settling in, and the DBacks weren’t doing much. I figured “they got a better than 50% chance of winning this one, to win the season series!”

And I was right!

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 9:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I said I hoped

you would wake up to a Cubs victory. Reed’s GS was just awesome. He’s one of my favorites on this team.

Hope Laura is feeling better each day.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 24, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

W

This win was huge, yes HUGE. Although it is still early, this win was huge. If we lost, all of us would be flipping out because we would be tied in first with the brewers. White Sox fans would be laughing at us, and it would begin to feel like a typical cubs year. But, NO! WE DID NOT GET SWEPT!
Soriano’s return was crucial to this teams confidence. There are people on this site that will complain about him, and I will myself sometimes, but there is obviously no question how this club feels when he is in the lineup. Suddenly the lineup is balanced, energized, confident….... motto for the season as always: WE WILL BE JUST FINE! I need a picture to represent that statement…. I want to key it in as the Cubs motto of 08. We got the team, so we shouldnt worry, although that is easier said then done. GO CUBS! CHEERS!

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 24, 2008 9:09 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WOW!

Man! Things are getting good. The Brewers are showing everybody how bad they want to win. The Cards just won’t give up, and the Cubs… are fighting everyone and everything to stay on top. Get ready to see some good baseball folks!

I just wish… every time I read the trade rumors, I don’t see the Cubs named anywhere. I hope they are out trying to get some bullpen help. We need some.

by TheHawkRules on Jul 24, 2008 9:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lee and Lilly

What happened to the batter helping the pitcher get some time to rest after running the bases? After Lilly scored his run on the Theriot groundout, it seemed like Lee made the final out before Lilly had even sat down in the dugout. Lee take any time coming to the plate or take a pitch.

Of course, Lilly then walked the first batter in the next inning and then gave up the Jackson triple. I wonder if Lee had helped him catch a little break whether he would have even given up that run.

by rlpete on Jul 24, 2008 9:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Grrr

It was supposed to say that Lee didn’t take any time coming to the plate or take a pitch.

by rlpete on Jul 24, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I knew what you meant

I do that all the time with my posts. Leave whole phrases, making sound disjointed….

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 24, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good insight.

I agree and it shows DLee might not have had his head in the game. Umps are trying to speed the game up, but there is no doubt that Lee could go slower, take pitches (two strikes), etc…

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 24, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great recap, Al

and I want to say I had so much fun in the threads last night, I was literally laughing my arse off at the jocularity and merriment that was had by all. Thanks everyone! My wife kept coming into my home office wondering what the hell I was laughing at all night!

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Jul 24, 2008 9:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

mine kept telling me to shut up and go to sleep. Luckily the thread was fun.

PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!

by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was fun in the threads

last night. Let’s hope the next four games are just as much fun.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 24, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The little kid hit by Lilly's ball

is going to come back to Wrigley on his 8th birthday (apparently in the next few weeks) and toss out the first ball. His father wants to surprise him with the trip and has to figure out how to get him to practice pitching.

Good news all around. Cubs win (ohthankgoodness), Cubs are back to form, and a little boy is about to have an experience of a lifetime.

Life doesn’t get any better than that.

What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker

by Emelie on Jul 24, 2008 9:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Excellent news on the kid.

If he reads this site (or wherever you heard the info) it won’t be much of a surprise, though.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 24, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was broadcast on WBEZ

so, if it leaks I’ll blame them :)

What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker

by Emelie on Jul 24, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Consider he's 7 years old...

I’m guessing he doesn’t read this site.

by kanderber on Jul 24, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully...

He doesn’t read the game threads, not suitable for minors.

"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."

by CubsBullsBears on Jul 24, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm really glad to hear...

...the Cubs are making this happen. Very cool move.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great news!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 24, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a great birthday

present for him. I hope it’s a game that either WGN or CSN cover so we will get to see him throw the ifrst pitch.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 24, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al...

Soriano actually had a double not a single… just sayin’.

"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."

by CubsBullsBears on Jul 24, 2008 9:42 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 24, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al, Soriano batted twice in an inning?

”...advanced to 2nd on a groundout by Alfonso Soriano (which gave the Cubs the lead), then stole third uncontested and scored on Alfonso Soriano’s groundout.”

No big deal, just thought I’d point it out. My eyes did a bit of a double take for a second.

Also, I believe Soriano had a double, not a single.

All in all, I got a great feeling watching the game last night. It felt like watching the offense hum earlier in the season. Lee, Ramirez, and Soto all ended Oh-fers. Fukudome, and the entire team for that matter, looked super patient and worked a ton of deep counts. And there were productive outs, like the Soriano RBI groundout.

Marmol looks to be getting back. He still didn’t look dominating, but he looked pretty good. He needs to prove he can throw the fastball for strikes and he’ll be untouchable again. Howry looks like toast right now. Hopefully his 2nd half is as good as it historically is, but he aint foolin’ anyone right now. Gaudin should be the RHP setup guy in place of Howry right now.

Good win, and this lineup I think is going to feast in the next couple of weeks and put some serious ground between the Cubs and 2nd place.

by WittyUserName on Jul 24, 2008 9:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Shoot.

Of course, the second groundout was Theriot’s. I’ll fix it.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 24, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that's been Marmol's problem

for most of the year, locating that fastball. Batters seem to wait him out cause they know it too. The Tracy ab he missed with a fastball then made him look silly on three straight sliders. Marmol really meant business last night though, he had that angry look, he slammed the rosin bag down and was pretty pumped when he got the final out. If he can throw the heater for strikes look out.

"Something about dopey Cubs fans just turns me on". -Not Bruce Froemming

by TheRamZamDLEE on Jul 24, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I noticed his body language, too.

It was cool seeing him fired up like that.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope we don't see AZ till Spring Training 2008

I want 3 of 4 from the fish, at least, I’m greedy.

Getting ahead of myself but I really hope this team gets jacked up for this Milwaukee series next week. It would be nice to send them the message that they are still 2nd tier in the NL Central by taking 3 of 4. I think it will be a good gauge to see if this team is going to tighten up when the pressure is elevated.

Let’s start rolling again!

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on Jul 24, 2008 10:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe that they won't be ready for the Brewers.

The Cubs know the meaning of the upcoming series. But they cannot look past the Marlins, who are also a good team.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 24, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should have phrased it a little different,

I just want them to play loose.

Lets do it Cubbies

by slocs55 on Jul 24, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

look past the marlins?

i can’t remember the last two meaningful series we did that…....

by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else catch this glaring inaccuracy...

...in today’s Sun-Times? Gordon Wittenmyer writes:

And with Milwaukee finishing off a sweep of St. Louis for its seventh consecutive win, the outburst couldn’t have been more timely.

Gordo, dude. Get off Twitter and fact check your articles. There’s still a game left in that series.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the curse

of the four-game series.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps Gordo has psychic powers that allow him to see that the Brew Crew will

finish off the Deadbirds and effectively end their season! Gordo the Magnificent sees all and know all.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For better or worse, with Sheets pitching tonight...

...he may very well turn out to be right.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have been watching those games and the Cards look gassed

The Brewers are definitely re-energized. Their confidence is pretty high right now. I foresee a sweep. Or Sheets getting hurt and a Cards win.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A lot of us thought...

... that the Cardinals couldn’t keep up the pace all year. Let them start to fall off the face of the Earth…

... after beating the Brewers tonight.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 24, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no need to root against the brewers

when they’re playing the Cards. Remember its a 3 team race likely for TWO spots, so if the Cards continue to slide its still a good thing.

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right, but...

... presuming the Cubs win tonight, a St. Louis win would be just fine with me.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 24, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the Brewers have done their damage...

...it’s time for them to add to their loss column.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you Al.

Let’s get the Brewers another game behind the Cubs.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the Brewers do Sweep,

I think a new DUI mug shot of LaPussa is in order.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, it's not.

What’s the point of that? Can’t we just discuss baseball on its own terms without attacking the other teams’ players and managers?

Yes, LaRussa has a DUI. That’s not a good thing. Has NOTHING to do with what’s happening on the field.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 24, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry...

Just trying to have a little fun. Wasn’t meant to be taken seriously.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for understanding.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 24, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cards have been living a charmed life for about a month.

You can’t convince me that that pitching staff can keep up with the Cubs and Brewers for 162 games. It was bound to come crashing down and now may be the time.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Many thoughts, walking, Fukudome, Soriano and Samardzija

First let us simply put to bed that a walk is as good as a hit, but sometimes a walk is better than a hit. Dusty Baker is a baseball idiot when he stated he didn’t like walks for they clogged the bases…..walks escalate the pressure as invariably it effects umpire’s calls, catcher’s signs, pitcher’s choices and batting situations. Cubs tie or exceed their 1975 record and they will be in the WS.

Soriano; the record is clear, this team wins with Soriano in the lineup and is an average team without him. That would be the same with DLee, A Ramirez and possibly G Soto as well. They have played almost half 47 games without Soriano in the lineup (you could add 2 games in which he was hurt, Cubs won both those games), they are 24-23 when Soriano is on the IR and 35-19 when he is not.

Soriano as Piniella stated in the interview sets up the Cubs offense. Not only an immediate offensive force when leading off, Soriano is a force when the lineup turns over being a run producer. What this does is allow Piniella work the edges of his lineup and bench, which is a Cubs strength.

Fukudome, I think Fukudome showed fatigue and with Soriano back and Fontenot playing effective in the lineup I think playing DeRosa in RF more would do well making him more productive. The same goes for Ramirez who probably shouldn’t be dieting while playing.

Samardzija, I thought all along he would have an impact on the Cubs chances. If Howry needs to find what is troubling him, my guess is he is hurt for I have not seen his good slider for a while, even last year it was only a show piece.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Jul 24, 2008 10:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Can we all agree that the "clogging up the bases" statement by

Dusty was perhaps the most inane statement ever made by a manager? We are all dumber for having to endure him many insipid platitudes. I would be happier if I never heard that statement again.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Reds...

... are tied for 4th in the NL with 384 walks. Must be driving Dusty nuts.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 24, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

kind of goes to show

players dictate performance a lot more than managers….

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hasn't helped the Reds win, though.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 24, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

once again

players dictate performance a lot more than managers….

when Dusty had good players he won (2003 with the Cubs, all those years in SF)

now he has a mediocre roster and its performing in a mediocre way

same thing has happened with Lou throughout his career….

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because Dusty is screwing up one of the only duties he has with the offense

The lineup.

The Reds average .097 BB/PA. Their lineup last night was Bruce .073, Keppinger .070, Griffey .146, Phillips .060. Three of the first four hitters take walks at below the team rate.

Meanwhile, the top walkers and where they hit? Dunn (5th), Ross (8th), Griffey (3rd), Hatteberg(7th), Encarnacion (6th).

"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."

by californiachicagoan on Jul 24, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

to that point

the reason we didn’t draw walks when Dusty was around was because we didn’t have players on the roster who typically drew walks. Some of that is Dusty’s fault but some of it is the front office’s as well.

The reason Lou’s teams are drawing more walks than Dusty’s has a lot to do with Fukudome, DeRosa, Soto. a different set of players Dusty never had

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The question, of course, becomes...

... did Dusty go out and ask Hendry to get players who played “his” way? Maybe over time he’d do this with the Reds, too.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 24, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fair question

but in my opinion you’re not a very good front office if you don’t have an overall philosophy that you’re hiring to try to execute.

The front offices job is to mold the organization with the best possible players to win

The managers job is to get the most out of the players he’s given

If you’re letting the manager influence the decisions on players then you’re not really taking responsibility for your job

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And THAT Is My Lone Criticism of Hendry

He lets the manager influence his decisions. Call it not taking responsibility for your job, or call it being too nice of a guy, or call it macaroni. But that’s how I see it. Thank goodness a competent skipper finally came aboard to work with Hendry…and let’s not discount the ouster of MacPhail, which resulted in the loosening of the purse strings.

Eat More Katsui

by CaliCub on Jul 24, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Managers HAVE to influence some personnel decisions...

... otherwise why hire any specific person?

But I think Hendry gave Baker too much control. That’s not the case with Piniella, I think they decide together.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 24, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they have influence over game management

you’re hiring the person to “manage” not to decide personnel

and ideally you’re trying to hire someone who has a philosophy that is in line with the organizations

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, that's not necessarily true.

Modern managers DO have input into team personnel. Would you take a job like that where your boss said, “Here’s the 25 guys I want. Now go win with them!”

Doesn’t work that way.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 24, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

A manager that likes to run will not want 8 Paul Konerkos on the basepaths.

PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!

by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

again

if you had 8 paul konerkos on the team you probably shouldn’t be hiring a manager that likes to run…

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

extreme example - granted.

PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!

by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we're talking about varying levels of input

do managers have input on the personnel? Sure they have some. But the majority of the input is on a periphery basis. They might suggest some bench players they’re comfortable using or some relief pitchers they’ve had success with in the past, but they’re not dictating the entire 25 man roster and nor should they be

Think about it.

A manager has a chance to watch players outside of his own team how many times a year? Maybe 10 games for non-divisional opponents and 16 or 17 for divisional opponents. Would you want someone making decisions for the roster on 10 game samples???

On top of that managers don’t get a chance to pay attention to minor league games at all outside of getting the updates from the head minor league guys.

The managers job is to manage the people he has. The front office’s job is to give the manager the best talent it can possibly find.

On top of that I’m arguing that a good front office will align the type of talent they’re looking to find with the type of manager who likes working with that type of talent.

How hard is that to understand?

Now, will the front office ask for a manager’s opinion of a player before going out and getting them? ABSOLUTELY

But is the front office sitting there waiting for the manager to generate ideas for who they should target? God… i hope not.

I didn’t say anywhere above that a manager doesn’t have input, I’m just saying the manager’s input should be a SMALL SMALL piece of the information put into making a decision because managers for the most part don’t get a chance to sit back and evaluate players all across the league. They’re down in the bunkers on a day to day basis grinding through a season with their own guys, how the heck could they follow every other player in baseball.

THat’s the front office’s job! And that’s why the front office shouldn’t concern themselves too much with what a manager thinks/wants. Furthermore a good front office should be hiring someone who’s philosophies are in line with their own so that the “input” a manager gives aligns with the philosophies of the organization as a whole

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm maybe I'm just confused

but why is this bothering you so much? The manager and front office need to have a good working relationship and should be on the same page… but i’m not seeing WHY this should be making you so “ranty”.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

girl just left you an offline message

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 24, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm ranty

by nature….

i have some pretty strong opinions

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a tendency to be as well

but… i’m not getting WHY on this matter.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i guess

because of the way the conversation started.

I feel like there are a couple things that drive me nuts on this site:

1) The Lou = God, Dusty = Devil mantras that we get where any time we win now is because of Lou and when we lost before it was because of Dusty (but when we won with Dusty it was in spite of him)

the general idea that managers have a HUGE impact on the overall results as opposed to recognizing the difference in talent on the field between when Dusty was managing in ‘06 and Lou in ‘07/’08, and that talent and front offices in general decide championships a lot more than managers do

2) the anti-ESPN sentiment

3) the Pie/Rich Hill is a huge bust sentiment

4) the anti Michael Barrett sentiment

5) booing

and the beginning of this convo hit on one of my nerves so it probably carried over from there. (the rantiness)

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree

The front office has to get guys that will fit well with the rest of the team. This includes the manager and his style of play. You dont sign speed guys for a team managed by someone who doesnt like steals. You dont sign platoon type players if the manager believes in playing guys every day, etc.

A front office absolutely should consult with the manager in player acquisition.

"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."

by californiachicagoan on Jul 24, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree to disagree

i think your sentiment is correct

“You dont sign speed guys for a team managed by someone who doesnt like steals.”

I agree with that.

But if you as a front office don’t believe in developing speed or believe in the impact of speed on the bases, then you shouldn’t hire a manager who wants to run all day and night.

You see where i’m coming from?

I think Hendry goes about by hiring the best guy available, not necessarily the guy that matches the organizations philosophy and then adapts the front office’s philosophy to the manager. I think that’s a weakness that can make your front offices abilities dependent on the quality of manager you have.

I’m under the belief you have an overall philosophy and then hire all the way down in line with that philosophy. Scouts, managers, hitting coaches, and of course players, etc, should all be in line with the organizations overall philosophy toward development, approach, etc

All the pieces should fit the overall plan

Not find the best piece and then try to make all the other pieces fit around it, I think that way of management creates inconsistency (which we’ve seen time and time again with the Cubs…)

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well..the manager is hired by front office..

So in essence..there is a circular relationship between organizational philosophy<==>manager<==>Team. So if the organizational philosophy is to build a team in a certain way then they will hire a manager who shares the same ideas and then will draft players/trade for players who can execute this.

by cubsnlinux on Jul 24, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's how

they should operate

i’m suggesting Hendry hasn’t operated that way in the past because Baker and Pineilla clearly have differences in their approaches, enough differences that you’d suggest 1 organization with 1 common philosophy would be unlikely to hire both of those men

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can just see him in team meetings saying stuff like - "Why don't you

dudes swing the bats?”

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um I think Lou's statement

That Soriano was a superstar and fans expected to see him play explaining why he
would NOT pull Sori for defensive reasons in late innings with a small lead is right up there
with “walks clog the bases”. I did notice that AFTER the game in which Sori dropped the easy fly
with two out in the 9th costing the Cubs a game he did in fact pull him a few times but I found the
idea that he would OPENLY state he would give Soriano special superstar treatment to appease the fans ( and like Dusty he was not kidding) extremely offensive.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 24, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Started Suspecting Dusty

when he made his proclamation that “black people handle the heat and humidity better than white people”. Shortly after that, he let Prior keep pitching after falling over Marcus Giles and landing on his shoulder, and then I knew he was an idiot. “Walks clog the bases” was the icing on the cake.

Eat More Katsui

by CaliCub on Jul 24, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a fact that darker skinned people historically

handle the heat better than lighter skinned people. It has to do with melanin. There is a reason, that some people are black and some people are white, (beyond the whims & variances of any creator). The closer a race of people lives to the equator, the darker their skin is. This is due to the fact that they genetically evolved that way, due to their environment; close to the equator, where it’s hotter. Another misconception is that black people don’t tan or burn. They do. Black people, (or darker skinned people), are genetically predisposed to function in hot weather. White people are not genetically predisposed to function in hot weather.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Stand Corrected

The mark of a message board’s character is when it’s participants admit being wrong, and I admit to it in this instance.

Eat More Katsui

by CaliCub on Jul 24, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and

that was what was wrong with MDBNIU

by tootle on Jul 24, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Liked The Guy's Passion

Not that he didn’t have his faults but his heart seemed in the right place. He just needs a little polish.

Eat More Katsui

by CaliCub on Jul 24, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish the media that roasted Dusty

for saying that would have done a little research, and realized that they were wrong.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't like Dusty

and still reference his “clogging” regularly, but I agree with you Jimmy. The media could have researched it; however, our society has such issues with discussing ANYTHING too important that I think the media’s reaction was just that: a reaction to a “celebrity” actually saying something about, gasp!, race! Rather than analyze or discuss the matter at hand, they point to it and simply say, “Tsk, tsk, Dusty. You should know not to mention race. Ever.” It’s a sorry state we’re in concerning “important” matters such as these.

But all will be remedied and peace, love, and understanding will prevail when the Cubs finally win it all. Just you wait.

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Jul 24, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm waiting with you.

Dusty is not a popular manager. However, he is a learned individual. It cracked me up, and at the same time infuriated me, when the media took Dusty to task for that comment about race, (especially white members of the media).

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But you're not allowed...

to ever make distinctions between races or sexes. You can’t say one race or sex is inherently better at something than another. Unless it’s picking out curtains….Aborigine Females are the best at that hands down.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, gay black men are the best at picking out curtains.

(Not that there’s anything wrong with that…)

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you went there....

and your there alone…I’m not following you.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys

are both cracking me up.

You’re right though, SWL. It’s taboo to speak of anything or making any such distinctions anymore, and that certainly doesn’t help foster greater understanding between races, sexes, classes, countries, etc.

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Jul 24, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Besides,

the truth of the matter is I’d pretty much let any gay man decorate my home. Those dudes have style, man. Not kidding. You watched HGTV lately, or Style Network? And don’t tell me you guys haven’t; if yer married, you know who Nicey and Finola are. Hells yeah.

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Jul 24, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My gay black friend

is always wanting to re-decorate my house. My gay black friend sounds like a bad sitcom title.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not as good as my gay MUSLIM friend...

yeah…it blows my mind too. And he’s a hilarious guy.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's write a film treatment.

We’ll have your gay Muslim friend & my gay, black, Jehovah Witness friend as the main characters trying to live in a small, all white, (and Catholic), midwestern town.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my best friend is an albino lesbian

she lives in amish country

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now we got another character.

Amish country might work better than Catholic…

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh

Ok, here we go. Everyone know the band Pork Tornado? They’re kind of a rock/r&B/country outfit with a liberal bent and a great sense of humor. They have a song that is basically this, repeated over and over again:

“I want a fat, black, poor, and handicapped, old single mother lesbian with a high IQ for president.”

Offensive to some….I’m only the messenger. And besides, it’s a great song.

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Jul 24, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ramirez isn't dieting.

You want to play DeRo more in RF? Not a good idea in Wrigley. RF in Wrigley is extremely hard to play defensively. Dome has played defense in RF very well. Now if you want them to use DeRo in RF every now and then to give Dome a rest, (like once a week). I agree with that.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, the only mitigating factor here...

...is that, according to an article in today’s Trib (I can’t seem to find a link online), Jim Edmonds is undergoing testing today to see just how seriously his left knee is injured. So, if Jimbo Ballgame goes on the DL, the Cubs may have no choice but to platoon Dome and Johnson in center and play DeRo in right.

And that would mean LBR will likely get more time at second base – which reminds me, could Ronnie Cedeno have looked ANY WORSE at the plate last night. Where have you gone, 1Dec? Cubs Nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Co co ca choo Mrs. Robinson...

RC could look worse. He has before. I hope he gets it together.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I honestly don't see how he could look worse.

Three pitches. One called strike. Two high fast balls, both swung on and missed. Bing, bam, boom. AB over. The man has Corey Patterson Disease.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Goo Goo Ga Joob

I am the walrus.

Eat More Katsui

by CaliCub on Jul 24, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

V.I. Lenin.

"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman

by Bildo1805 on Jul 24, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this would be another situation

in which (if he were healthy) calling up Pie for a 2 week stint wouldn’t be a bad idea and let him play against mediocre RH’s. I know the offense has been a big issue of late so infusing Pie’s bat would likely only make things worse, but it would be another shot to see if any of the adjustments he’s made can work at the big league level

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 24, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about not agreed?

Here’s hoping for the best with Edmonds but if not, I’ll take Fontenot inserted into the lineup – with DeRosa and Fukudome shifting – than another look at Felix Pie. I’ve seen that show, and I’m happy to wait until September call-ups to see it again.

by Damen Jackson on Jul 24, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you won't see it again in September

because everyone would be healthy and playing….

so you either get a sneak peak at it now, or wait until spring training next year and we’re again in the same boat as last year without the safety net of an “option”

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, because there's no way...

that the fastest guy and best defensive outfielder in the organization wouldn’t make the epxanded roster.

And there’s no such thing as no safety net. See Reed Johnson. The Cubs have money and prospects, so they can find a solution if need be. Personally though, I hope that they quietly go about finding a long-term veteran solution anyway, but that’s just me.

by Damen Jackson on Jul 24, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he'd make the roster

but he wouldn’t play….. because we’re assuming Edmonds would be healthy again by then and Pie wouldn’t play if Edmonds were healthy

are you following yet?

And who exactly do you recommend as a veteran CF long term solution?

As for money and prospects, our salary commitments stay the same/moderately increase next year without adding any players, and we’re at 118 million now:

Zambrano +2.75 Million
Ramirez +1.65 Million
Soriano +3 Million
Lilly +5 Million
Edmonds -.140 Million
Fukudome +5.5 Million
Dempster -5.5 Million
Marquis +3.4 Million
DeRosa +.8 Million
Harden +2.5 Million
Wood -4.2 Million
Howry -4 Million
Eyre -3.8 Million
Lieber -3.5 Million
R. Johnson -1.2 Million
Ward -1.1 Million

Total = -1.34 Million

The reason I say our payroll may moderately increase is this figure is without arbitration eligible players who will likely see boosts that result in a few million swinging the other way. So basically we’ll be at about the same point we are now with 8 less roster spots filled (Wood, Howry, Eyre, Johnson, Ward, Edmonds, Lieber, Dempster)

So how much more money do we have? We won’t know until we know who the new owners are, but to assume we can just “buy” anyone to fill gaps is asinine and shows a lack of understanding for our current commitments.

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I forgot who I was talking to...

The answer to the question is that I don’t . Yet. And more importantly that’s besides the point, so I won’t even begin to get into the economics of the 2009 Cubs four months before even they do. And to be frank, you taking my comments and turning into the suggestion that I said that we can “buy anyone” is what’s asinine.

As for Pie, there will be opportunities in September for him to play; one would expect pinch-running, some pinch-hit, and an occasional start or two – especially to rest old legs like Edmonds. I’ve no appetite for two weeks of Pie right now, and I’d be a bit surprised if Lou does either.

by Damen Jackson on Jul 24, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

you might need to remember to bring some actual facts to the keyboard when responding to one of my posts….

its a pain in the “bleep” i know

how does pinch-running, pinch-hitting, and playing once or twice a week give us ANY idea of how much better Pie is equipped to play at the major league level?

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And yeah,

I meant would make the expanded roster.

by Damen Jackson on Jul 24, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

right

but making the roster isnt the same as playing

i think we’ve already established Felix is fully capable of getting himself into a major league uniform and sitting on the bench for 9 innings. In terms of his development I dont think he has anything left to prove in that regard

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

has he worn ALL THREE

jerseys? Pinstriped, blue AND Grey?

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmmm...

you’re right he probably needs more time in the Greys

lets get him up here and get that uni fitted

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guess-dressing hack!

Too many holes in his uniform!

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice work!

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Jul 24, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do the Cubs have prospects?

And, if so, which ones would garner a long-term veteran solution? And exactly who would that long-term solution be?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about agreed?

I dig ED. I am so happy that he has contributed to the team so far, and I hope his knee is going to be ok. At the same time, if he goes on the DL, bringing up Pie for a cup of coffee is the best option. Why? It adds an element that this team needs, speed. Pie is excellent defensively. DeRo is starting to become exposed in the OF. Fontenot is not an everyday player. DeRo really needs more time in the IF, at 2nd, subbing for Rami & D. Lee. Here’s hoping ED will be back soon, hitting HR’s against the Brewers bull pen.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pete's SAKE.

If Edmonds goes back on the DL BRING UP PIE!!!!

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I think we just hit every hot-button topic in this post.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shhhhhhhh. He hit a double Tues.

PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!

by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about calling up Pie if Edmonds goes on the DL?

"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."

by californiachicagoan on Jul 24, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't Pie Dinged Up?

Something about an ankle or foot injury the other night…

Eat More Katsui

by CaliCub on Jul 24, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read that he did have an AB last night

"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."

by californiachicagoan on Jul 24, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great news after losing the first two in AZ

Remember, even though that dome sucks for the Cubs, we still took the series, 4-2. Now let’s get some payback on the Marlins for the agony they put us through last September

by Mapmaker on Jul 24, 2008 10:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Also Great News:

RJ got rid of the Village People stache!

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sigh

I liked the stache…

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was kind of hilarious BUT

he looked like he worked in a different industry. bow-chicka-bow-bow…

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm kinda glad he lost it.

It was kinda freakin’ me out.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're freakin' out, man ;)

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 24, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Lou and Jim work well together...

I think you need to put a few heads together to figure everything out.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou always talks about what a great

working relationship he and Hendry have. I think that’s the way it should be.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it safe to say that

Lilly was scrappy on the base paths last night?

Lilly showed me a lot last night. Not great but good enough.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 10:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lilly was SMART

on the basepaths. That’s all I care about.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always love it

when the pitcher steals a base. Loved it when Maddux did it, loved watching Lilly do it last night.

It was funny seeing Rami cracking up in the dugout when Lilly stole third too.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 24, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The stolen base was outstanding.

But he looked like a scared little rabbit when he scored.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 24, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You beat me to it...

Was going to say that. Hilarious!!!

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark

by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He and Bill Murray, seperated at birth.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha!

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just got here

and still, best line from daver ever. i was still giggling about it during the game. :-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maddux stole a base about 10 days ago

becoming at age 42 the oldest pitcher to steal a base and it is because he is smart because
he sure is slow.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 24, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I remember his quote.

He said something like, “I’m the oldest pitcher to steal a base…and lose.” Man, is it a shame he can’t get some run support.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is getting a little more acerbic lately ( I don't blame him)

After getting a no decision yesterday ( victim of an error, bad Padre base running and leaving with the lead only to see the next guy serve up a gopher ball on HIS FIRST pitch
to lose the lead) making it basically 2 plus months since a win, he said something to the effect that he was pitching GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN ( which he is, no one with an ERA of
roughly 4.00 in that period should have ZERO wins in 14 starts)

For Maddux fans here is a funny bit in today’s Onion

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/report_greg_maddux_can

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 24, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

all the more reason

for him to come play for a contender. Like us.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dodgers or he stays put

Would be a very good fit and Dodgers pitching in struggling so they should
DO it. Towers HAD to give him away, heck given the screw ups ( hitting AND fielding) behind Maddux I think San Diego should pick up part of the salary but that they will not do.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 24, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he was peeved at himself for letting Young steal third

Of course he got revenge on that later on as well.

"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."

by californiachicagoan on Jul 24, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not sure what that means. Is it somethign R rated or something new at KFC?

PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!

by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

kobe likes to play with a full passion bucket, just ask him

and start listening to the dan patrick show…..inside joke

by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hard to tell from the Comcast telecast

(and since I didn’t see much) didn’t it look as if Johnson’s slam WAS interfered with? Unless—it hit the top of the wall, the yellow line….I almost flipped over to FSN AZ but then I’d have to hear Mark Grace, and who would want to subject onself to that…

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 24, 2008 10:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

FSN AZ slow-mo

Showed a fan help the ball over the fence

Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs

by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like it would have hit the yellow line...

and been out for a HR anyway… Cubs deserved a break anyway…

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I was wondering about that.

I agree that the ball appeared to hit the top (flat) surface of the outfield wall. So does that count as a home run or a ground rule double?

And RJ’s slam only further deepened the mystery of accursed Chase Field for me. Leaving the bat, the ball appeared to be on its way to becoming a bases-clearing double (or at least one that would score two runs). All of the sudden, the dern thing just glides over (or, uh, onto) the fence! I nearly fell off the couch. I just can’t seem to judge where any ball in that park is going to end up. (OK, except for Snyder’s home run off Howry. I was pretty sure that was gone the minute the ball left the bat.)

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it hits the top flat, yellow line surface,

it’s a HR. Yes, that ballpark is a mystery wrapped in a riddle. I don’t know what it is. Sumthin’ ain’t right though…

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, cool.

So then D’Backs fans have nothin’ to bitch about – and I have no doubt some of them are bitchin’ right about now.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice to see that Third-Market

Chicago TV can’t have the same production capacity as Phoenix. Guess that’s the type of replay that MLB wants—which would have taken the slam away. Who knows what would have happened after that…

But the Cubs hadn’t had a break in weeks….

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 24, 2008 10:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I know...

They were showing a replay from like the home plate camera or something, from that distance you couldn’t even see the ball.

"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."

by CubsBullsBears on Jul 24, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if it had been off the wall

it still would have scored several runs, no?

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

right, but if the fan hadn't ended up with it

and it had bounced off the wall, below the yellow line—it scores at LEAST three, no?

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it

would be a bases clearing double when he hit it. Who knew Reed had such oppo power?

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 24, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"...the red-hot Brewers, who have got to cool off..."

likewise, the cold, lifeless Cubs Road Team must heat up, especially at home now. Like someone mentioned above, it’s time for some payback against the Marlins, but they could be formidable, taking 3 out 4 against the Dodgers in LA before the AS break.

by JFCubFan on Jul 24, 2008 10:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

But, then again -- yellow line HR

so I don’t know, and I guess the point is moot, anyway

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 24, 2008 10:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lovin' the upbeat dialogue this mornin'

BCB is one big happy family again. Here’s hoping that Big Z is in a like frame of mind this evening.

by Cajuncub on Jul 24, 2008 10:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I expect a big game from Z tonight. He kind of sucked last time

out and I think he may want to prove that he is the ace of this staff.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did we lose Blue Mike?

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suspect he may return - in some mutated form.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That made my skin crawl.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 24, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

mutated mike

What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker

by Emelie on Jul 24, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

speaking of making skin crawl

:shudder:

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

GAWD Emelie.

I’m laughing so hard I can’t see the picture any more…and that’s a good thing.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 24, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about Michaelangelo Azurri?

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i've been having a hard time

dealing with the loss of BlueMike

not much eating or sleeping….

maybe i am dehydrated

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The grieving process is a painful one for all of us.

But we will emerge smarter, stronger and, gosh darn it, people will like us.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your wrong.

This is what happens when adults leave the room.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool it, Shecky Green!

The day I care about your grieving process acumen is the day the earth falls off its rotational axis!

(Damnit, I miss him.)

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as I've said

he’ll be back. He’s just on the 15 day DL.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Either that...

...or he optioned himself to Triple A. Somewhere in Iowa, there’s a Cubs blogger going, “Who the hell is this guy and why does he keep repeating the same comments over and over?”

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Iowa put up point checks

at the borders. He will be denied entrance.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 24, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oooh

the Fugitive

PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!

by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bull s..............

guessing he already had a new screen name in tryouts before the resignation.

betting it’s drewish. very counter intuitive.

PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!

by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now that would be

a film-worthy plot twist. I like it. Good thinking, Oak. Drewish did seem to materialize and be the perfect foil for BM, didn’t he? : )

"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Jul 24, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need a "Best Of MDBNIU" fanpost.

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 24, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we need a counter

and also, an over-under in… MDBNIU: The RETURN. Part Eleventy-Killion.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure if this has already been mentioned

The Score just reported that Levin was also cut from the bidding for the Cubs

Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs

by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 11:05 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What happened to “Deep Pockets” Levin?

by WashUBearCub on Jul 24, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lets hope this link works

http://www.reuters.com/article/ousivMolt/idUSN2328665720080724

He bid under a billion dollars

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by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Won't be an alum for another year of two

But good to know there are more Tiger fans around

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by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way - Alumnus means you only attended not graduated. The minute

you stepped into your first class, you became an alumnus. You will become a Mizzou graduate in a year or two.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where'd you learn that? College?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I didn't know that

Also who said I ever stepped into class

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by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you creep to class like a phantom?

10 BCB Points up for grabs to whoever gets the hip-hop reference.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot I was talking about Mizzou. I attended the University of

Michigan and we never, ever skipped a class, honest.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Calc Prof questioned me a few times about missing his class...

but I wouldn’t say I was “missing” it Bob.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cue Al....

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not good news.

If Levin doesn’t get the team, I hope Mark Cuban does. I know he’ll make a fool of himself a few times, but he wants to win, and he’ll spend what it takes. Most billionaires are just focused on the bottom line of their investment. I’d rather have an owner who regards the team as his toy than who’s just looking for a quick profit.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 24, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A bit more on the ownership situation from Steve Stone

Just talked about it on again the Score. Said that highest bidder won’t win by default (which we already knew).

Talked about how a first-time owner or somebody who “disrupt” other owners. Basically tried to dismiss Cuban’s chances.

None of this may be new info but do with it what you will

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by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 11:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You can't trust what Stony says...

He’s got an axe to grind. He hasn’t been able to get into ownership, or management in MLB for a long, long time. No one will touch him, or give him an opportunity. There is a reason for that. Stony used to be humble and informative, know he’s a know it all that is more concerned with being right, than being good.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs