One At A Time: Cubs 10, Diamondbacks 6
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 8:30 AM CDT
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If you have been reading the "Cubs 2008 Walk Watch" box on the right sidebar since I posted it on May 18 after the Cubs had drawn seven walks and scored all four of their runs in a 4-3 victory via hitters who had walked, yesterday was a significant day.
The Cubs drew five walks in their 10-6 win over the Diamondbacks, increasing the season total to 398 -- incidentally, that number leads the major leagues -- and surpassed the entire season total in Dusty "Hackmaster" Baker's last season as manager in 2006.
With sixty-one games to go.
The Cubs are still a bit short of the pace they'd need to break the club record (650 in 1975) -- they're on pace to draw 638 walks. But the patience they showed last night helped; Kosuke Fukudome is suddenly looking better, as he did in the first half of the season, and the Cubs worked deep counts much of the night.
Fukudome, of course, wasn't the offensive star -- that note goes to Reed Johnson, who singled and doubled and then in the 8th inning, hit a grand slam that put the game out of reach even when Lou trotted Bob Howry out there again. I'm not sure what's wrong with Howry -- either he's hurt or he's done, and no matter which it is, the Cubs have a decision to make. Perhaps they could put Howry on the DL and bring up Jeff Samardzija; this Tribune article suggests the Shark might be coming up, although not for Howry, but for the still-unavailable Kerry Wood:
He would give Lou Piniella another power arm to use in front of Carlos Marmol and Bob Howry if Wood is forced onto the disabled list for the upcoming series against the Marlins and Brewers.
"With a lot of guys you might have questions about, 'How's he going to handle [the pressure]?' " Cubs assistant general manager Randy Bush said. "But with [Samardzija], you just think he'll handle it well."
In the meantime, Lou is going to have to slot Chad Gaudin ahead of Howry -- I can understand why Lou sent Howry out there with a seven-run lead, because where else are you going to find out whether the guy can still pitch or not? Unfortunately, it meant that Marmol had to throw the 9th inning on a night when he'd probably have stayed in the bullpen.
Ted Lilly looked pretty good last night -- almost better at the plate than on the mound; he had a seeing-eye RBI single, tying the game at 2, in the Cubs' three-run fifth (after they had coughed up the 1-0 lead they had on Derrek Lee's first HR in 26 games), advanced to 2nd on a groundout by Alfonso Soriano (which gave the Cubs the lead), then stole third uncontested and scored on Ryan Theriot's groundout. It wasn't his best outing of the year, but it was good enough to give him his 10th win of the year, joining Carlos Zambrano and Ryan Dempster in double figures.
Speaking of Soriano, do not underestimate the value of his return, even though he had just one hit and the RBI groundout. In Carrie Muskat's recap on the Cubs' website, Reed Johnson said:
"He makes it fun to come to work. I think everybody will say he's just a presence and a leader for us. Any time you have a guy like that out, it's tough on you."
Yeah, I know. Can't measure that on a stat sheet, etc. etc. etc. But you can't put numbers on the psychological lift every player wearing blue, red and gray last night got when they saw Soriano (who, admittedly, looked a little tentative in the field) in the starting lineup, something that also allowed Lou to shift things around and post some semblance of what's likely to be the lineup for the rest of the season. I like Fukudome hitting sixth, as he did last night, or seventh on days when Jim Edmonds is playing -- and Edmonds wasn't available last night, having a sore knee, though he probably would have sat against the LHP Doug Davis anyway.
So the Cubs come home still in first place, one game ahead of the red-hot Brewers, who have got to cool off eventually. (Right?) The Cubs' 37-12 home record will come in handy for the next 18 days, during which they will play 17 games, 13 of them at home.
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by cubsluver22 on Jul 24, 2008 8:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Homesweethome
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on Jul 24, 2008 8:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Soriano
Having Soriano back completes this team. Suddenly when he comes back everybody pretty much plays to their potential. Nice to see. Good win to keep sole posession of first.
by adam316 on Jul 24, 2008 8:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess I was teetering closer to the ledge than I thought.
I didn’t realize how tense I was during the last few innings last night until the final out. Sweet relief a win.
Mostly Positives: Lots of hits (Lee, Ramirez, Fukodome, Soto, Soriano etc.), Avoid the sweep.
Time to hang tough and get back in rhythm versus a good team in the marlins and then four tough games in Sausage town.
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 8:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
im the same way
I was watching the game with my girlfriend last night and I realized I was starting to freak out too much. That’s why I decided to simply step away from the game and let things happen on their own. Needless to say I was very happy when I turned it back on a little later and saw it was 6-3 with the bases loaded.
I think a lot of us (myself included) need to step outside of the daily grind from time to time and look at the big picture more.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
by mjk83 on Jul 24, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't watch that game at all.
I had it on, but just couldn’t watch. First time all season. I flipped away constantly. I did see the slam.
Turned away in the 9th. Figured I’d sleep on it and find out what happened in the AM. Didn’t need the frustration.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 24, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too
I decided not to watch the game after the previous games. Maybe I should not watch the game more often.
by dr stabbingworth on Jul 24, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I was still in my "Chase Field Funk"...
...until the Cubs went up 5-3 in the eighth. Then I started thinkin’, “OK, they’ve scored five runs. That should do it against this (usually) low-scoring D’Backs team.” Fortunately, the team had a little more to show me.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone mentioned this below as well
but I remember seeing Howry warming up in the bullpen at the beginning of the 8th and thinking that our one run lead just won’t cut it. I too was in the Chase-Field Funk until the cubs had their three run lead, and was downright giddy after Reed hit the grand-salami.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 24, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great win last night
I wasn’t able to watch most the game but turned on the radio right when Lilly got the single (then the base-hit). I saw the inning where RJ got the Grand Salami, but I really can’t believe what is happening with Howry. I always thought of him as pretty reliable, but this season he is proving me wrong. Cotts looked great though. Glad to see our bats are back.
by GoCubbies34 on Jul 24, 2008 8:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That roadtrip was a nightmare
Both teams we played, played WAY better than they normally do, and the Cubs played far worse than they normally do.
Here’s hoping we take 3 of 4 from the Marlins (I think Z, Dempster AND Harden will all pitch in this series, so that’s not a stretch), and get this thing back on track.
And it wouldn’t hurt, ahem, if the Brewers lost a game very now and then.
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
by SouthsideCub on Jul 24, 2008 8:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Howry
I’d tend to agree with you, it is probably time for them to cut him loose. But I know what Pinella and Howry are hoping: he’s looked this bad before, and then somehow pulls it together and runs of a several week streak of solid performances. They are clearly waiting to see signs of it, but with an ERA over 5 I think that hope is growing rather dim.
by BeltwayCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 8:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's Go Cubs!
We’re home for 13 of 17, let’s enjoy some home cooking and put a little distance between us and the Brewers/Cardinals.
by DWChaney on Jul 24, 2008 8:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cott's
Has done a nice job,
Bull pen was the strong a few months back, let hope it returns
I've been bleeding double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers
by parrotinct on Jul 24, 2008 8:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah...
I am so connected to this team, I actually let the last few losses affect my day… Silly me, with the Cub love. It feels so good to be coming off a win last night. They really played well. Fonzie made contact, although he had only one hit. D.Lee didn’t hit into a double play. Ramirez got a hit, (really should be 2 hits, but they called that one an error- tough error). Lilly pitched well, got a hit, even stole a base… Now for the Marlins… Time to fry those fish up, and serve them! I reserve special hatred for the Florida Marlins, as I’m sure many of you do… I think the Cubs should easily be able to take two of three, (at home, Marlin’s pitching not so strong this year). If I had to guess with the way they’re talking, they might bring the Shark up to sub for Kerry if he has to go on the DL. At first I thought, bad idea; but bringing him up for limited duty, with a defined role- could be beneficial to him. Depending on how he pitches, it could also be beneficial to the team. We’ll see…
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 9:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
my thoughts/hopes with Shark is..
something like what Joba was to the Yankees last year. When he came up he was lights out and just gave that bullpen/team a huge jolt. Hopefully same thing happens with Shark this year. Give them a reason to keep him in the majors
"Go Cubs Go"
by mkcubs21 on Jul 24, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he is 70% of what Joba was for the Yankees last year
Look out
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never heard of this
“Joba” guy. I just wish the national media would give him a mention so us hicks know what’s happening in the North East.
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB Shop demands you buy this
Only then can us hicks understand the power of Joba
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly...
Bringing up Shark and putting him in the pen smacks of papelbon in Boston as well in ‘06. The more I think about this, the more convinced I get that they are going to do this. It makes a lot of sense. See what ya got, before you make a trade. If he’s lights out, you got a guy for the rest of the year that you don’t have to trade anybody for.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shark....
Im happy to see Shark possibly get a chance.
Btw I cant remember who it was in one of the fanposts who said he bets anyone a beer etc he doesnt get called up before September 1st. I responded that I’d take that bet, but wanted a malt. If that person would admit to it….. I am going to look to collect on that malt. LOL
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 24, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With almost any other very young, rookie pitcher...
...I might be inclined to argue against bringing him up. But The Shark has been in big game situations before (albeit in a different sport), and I think he just might have the mental toughness to have some good outings in a late-season pennant race.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marmol
I just watched the ninth inning on mlb.tv and Marmol’s slider was looking rather White Castle-ish again last night. He really made Chad Tracy (the last out of the game) look silly on three straight sliders. Apparently Marmol just needed a little bit of rest to that he could get back on top of that pitch and have it break downward again.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 24, 2008 9:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That was the first thing I watched this morning
His slider isn’t QUITE back to the frisbee it was at the beginning of the season, but it’s getting closer. (Plesac made the best comment about Marmol’s early year slider- he said that even had Marmol told a hitter “I’m going to throw you three straight sliders” and then did it, the batter’s knees would buckle on every pitch). That said, I liked seeing Tracy on one knee after striking out, it shows how good the movement on that pitch was.
This is important because Kerry somehow developed a blister that transcends medical treatment.
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
by SouthsideCub on Jul 24, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL...
“a blister that transcends medical treatment”... I got a chuckle out of this.
"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 24, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kerry Wood's entire body transcends medical treatment. The
entire medical establishment is amazed at how a minor malady like a blister can transform into a condition that can keep a professional athlete from fuctioning in any normal manner. Astounding!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm shocked...
That something like New Skin or even crazy glue wouldn’t help this? Besides that, it’s been almost 2 weeks, it should’ve healed by now.
"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 24, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the problem is that...
they thought it was healed, but it opened up again. Now it has to heal all over again.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had a blister on my thumb from playing golf
that lasted a month. Not surprised. That is after multiple times of popping it too.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not like he's had to throw a baseball
on a regular basis anytime in the past, say, 20 years.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
plz to be tellink me
if you are beink sarcastic.
What a country!
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sarcasm is my middle name!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
That’s cool. How did your parents know…......
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just lucky I guess.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'd think...
His fingers would have callused up and been used to this. Josh Beckett used to have this problem also, maybe Kerry should give him a call… or use Alou’s remedy?
"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 24, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to admit...
...I’ve had this same thought. It seems like there should be some sort of synthetic material they can cover it with that would enable him to pitch. I’ll of course defer to the medical experts on this, however.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it may be that
the blister is causing irritation of a nerve underneath. My understanding is that the skin is long since healed, but that the new skin has left exposed a nerve in the finger.
This is seriously ridiculous- it should not take three weeks to heal one blister.
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
by SouthsideCub on Jul 24, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds about right.
Sometimes it takes a while to totally heal a blister… I think they just want to be sure that when they get Kerry back, they don’t have to worry that they’ll lose him again for any part of the stretch run. They want to get another good arm in the bull pen, and to get it from a position of strength.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The synth intro to "Jump" is titled "1984"
Not to be a know it all, thought you might want to know. Fitting though, huh?
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, not to further nitpick...
...but, as I recall, “1984” was actually a separate (instrumental) track that led off the album and played just before “Jump” on that album.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are correct.
It was a separate track, that played just before “Jump”, but almost ran together with the beginning of “Jump”. I think this is why people think it is just a synth intro to “Jump”.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever it is
whenever I hear it, it gives me goose bumps. It reminds me of the excitement of watching a game in the middle of summer when I was a kid. I knew Ryno and the rest were just moments away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e-vgQSqNtA
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
by SouthsideCub on Jul 24, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It gives my goose bumps as well...
That ‘84 year was great. What a joy they were to watch every day. I wish they would play that at the ballpark or on the telecasts…
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That poor goose...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My how funny typos can be...
I’m making an appt. today for my goose at the vet.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Consider a veterinarian's care.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's A Little Known Fact
cue Cliff Claven….
Talkin’ about instrumentals and opening tracks – the famous instrumental that they played during Bulls player introductions is called “Sirius” by the Alan Parsons Project, and if you let it play out on the album it segues right into “Eye In The Sky”.
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 24, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree.
Tracy looked ridiculously overmatched in that AB.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wewt!
I had to go to sleep last night early; we’re exhausted going through my wife’s recovery.
But! When I went to sleep, it was 4-3, Lilly was settling in, and the DBacks weren’t doing much. I figured “they got a better than 50% chance of winning this one, to win the season series!”
And I was right!
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 9:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I said I hoped
you would wake up to a Cubs victory. Reed’s GS was just awesome. He’s one of my favorites on this team.
Hope Laura is feeling better each day.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 24, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
W
This win was huge, yes HUGE. Although it is still early, this win was huge. If we lost, all of us would be flipping out because we would be tied in first with the brewers. White Sox fans would be laughing at us, and it would begin to feel like a typical cubs year. But, NO! WE DID NOT GET SWEPT! 
Soriano’s return was crucial to this teams confidence. There are people on this site that will complain about him, and I will myself sometimes, but there is obviously no question how this club feels when he is in the lineup. Suddenly the lineup is balanced, energized, confident….... motto for the season as always: WE WILL BE JUST FINE! I need a picture to represent that statement…. I want to key it in as the Cubs motto of 08. We got the team, so we shouldnt worry, although that is easier said then done. GO CUBS! CHEERS!
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 24, 2008 9:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW!
Man! Things are getting good. The Brewers are showing everybody how bad they want to win. The Cards just won’t give up, and the Cubs… are fighting everyone and everything to stay on top. Get ready to see some good baseball folks!
I just wish… every time I read the trade rumors, I don’t see the Cubs named anywhere. I hope they are out trying to get some bullpen help. We need some.
by TheHawkRules on Jul 24, 2008 9:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lee and Lilly
What happened to the batter helping the pitcher get some time to rest after running the bases? After Lilly scored his run on the Theriot groundout, it seemed like Lee made the final out before Lilly had even sat down in the dugout. Lee take any time coming to the plate or take a pitch.
Of course, Lilly then walked the first batter in the next inning and then gave up the Jackson triple. I wonder if Lee had helped him catch a little break whether he would have even given up that run.
by rlpete on Jul 24, 2008 9:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Grrr
It was supposed to say that Lee didn’t take any time coming to the plate or take a pitch.
by rlpete on Jul 24, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew what you meant
I do that all the time with my posts. Leave whole phrases, making sound disjointed….
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on Jul 24, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good insight.
I agree and it shows DLee might not have had his head in the game. Umps are trying to speed the game up, but there is no doubt that Lee could go slower, take pitches (two strikes), etc…
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on Jul 24, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great recap, Al
and I want to say I had so much fun in the threads last night, I was literally laughing my arse off at the jocularity and merriment that was had by all. Thanks everyone! My wife kept coming into my home office wondering what the hell I was laughing at all night!
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
by BigJohnAZ on Jul 24, 2008 9:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
mine kept telling me to shut up and go to sleep. Luckily the thread was fun.
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was fun in the threads
last night. Let’s hope the next four games are just as much fun.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 24, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The little kid hit by Lilly's ball
is going to come back to Wrigley on his 8th birthday (apparently in the next few weeks) and toss out the first ball. His father wants to surprise him with the trip and has to figure out how to get him to practice pitching.
Good news all around. Cubs win (ohthankgoodness), Cubs are back to form, and a little boy is about to have an experience of a lifetime.
Life doesn’t get any better than that.
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on Jul 24, 2008 9:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent news on the kid.
If he reads this site (or wherever you heard the info) it won’t be much of a surprise, though.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was broadcast on WBEZ
so, if it leaks I’ll blame them :)
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on Jul 24, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Consider he's 7 years old...
I’m guessing he doesn’t read this site.
by kanderber on Jul 24, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully...
He doesn’t read the game threads, not suitable for minors.
"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 24, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm really glad to hear...
...the Cubs are making this happen. Very cool move.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great news!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 24, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a great birthday
present for him. I hope it’s a game that either WGN or CSN cover so we will get to see him throw the ifrst pitch.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 24, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al...
Soriano actually had a double not a single… just sayin’.
"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 24, 2008 9:42 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Al, Soriano batted twice in an inning?
”...advanced to 2nd on a groundout by Alfonso Soriano (which gave the Cubs the lead), then stole third uncontested and scored on Alfonso Soriano’s groundout.”
No big deal, just thought I’d point it out. My eyes did a bit of a double take for a second.
Also, I believe Soriano had a double, not a single.
All in all, I got a great feeling watching the game last night. It felt like watching the offense hum earlier in the season. Lee, Ramirez, and Soto all ended Oh-fers. Fukudome, and the entire team for that matter, looked super patient and worked a ton of deep counts. And there were productive outs, like the Soriano RBI groundout.
Marmol looks to be getting back. He still didn’t look dominating, but he looked pretty good. He needs to prove he can throw the fastball for strikes and he’ll be untouchable again. Howry looks like toast right now. Hopefully his 2nd half is as good as it historically is, but he aint foolin’ anyone right now. Gaudin should be the RHP setup guy in place of Howry right now.
Good win, and this lineup I think is going to feast in the next couple of weeks and put some serious ground between the Cubs and 2nd place.
by WittyUserName on Jul 24, 2008 9:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that's been Marmol's problem
for most of the year, locating that fastball. Batters seem to wait him out cause they know it too. The Tracy ab he missed with a fastball then made him look silly on three straight sliders. Marmol really meant business last night though, he had that angry look, he slammed the rosin bag down and was pretty pumped when he got the final out. If he can throw the heater for strikes look out.
"Something about dopey Cubs fans just turns me on". -Not Bruce Froemming
by TheRamZamDLEE on Jul 24, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I noticed his body language, too.
It was cool seeing him fired up like that.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope we don't see AZ till Spring Training 2008
I want 3 of 4 from the fish, at least, I’m greedy.
Getting ahead of myself but I really hope this team gets jacked up for this Milwaukee series next week. It would be nice to send them the message that they are still 2nd tier in the NL Central by taking 3 of 4. I think it will be a good gauge to see if this team is going to tighten up when the pressure is elevated.
Let’s start rolling again!
Lets do it Cubbies
by slocs55 on Jul 24, 2008 10:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe that they won't be ready for the Brewers.
The Cubs know the meaning of the upcoming series. But they cannot look past the Marlins, who are also a good team.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should have phrased it a little different,
I just want them to play loose.
Lets do it Cubbies
by slocs55 on Jul 24, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
look past the marlins?
i can’t remember the last two meaningful series we did that…....
by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else catch this glaring inaccuracy...
...in today’s Sun-Times? Gordon Wittenmyer writes:
And with Milwaukee finishing off a sweep of St. Louis for its seventh consecutive win, the outburst couldn’t have been more timely.
Gordo, dude. Get off Twitter and fact check your articles. There’s still a game left in that series.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the curse
of the four-game series.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps Gordo has psychic powers that allow him to see that the Brew Crew will
finish off the Deadbirds and effectively end their season! Gordo the Magnificent sees all and know all.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For better or worse, with Sheets pitching tonight...
...he may very well turn out to be right.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have been watching those games and the Cards look gassed
The Brewers are definitely re-energized. Their confidence is pretty high right now. I foresee a sweep. Or Sheets getting hurt and a Cards win.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of us thought...
... that the Cardinals couldn’t keep up the pace all year. Let them start to fall off the face of the Earth…
... after beating the Brewers tonight.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no need to root against the brewers
when they’re playing the Cards. Remember its a 3 team race likely for TWO spots, so if the Cards continue to slide its still a good thing.
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, but...
... presuming the Cubs win tonight, a St. Louis win would be just fine with me.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the Brewers have done their damage...
...it’s time for them to add to their loss column.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you Al.
Let’s get the Brewers another game behind the Cubs.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Brewers do Sweep,
I think a new DUI mug shot of LaPussa is in order.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it's not.
What’s the point of that? Can’t we just discuss baseball on its own terms without attacking the other teams’ players and managers?
Yes, LaRussa has a DUI. That’s not a good thing. Has NOTHING to do with what’s happening on the field.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry...
Just trying to have a little fun. Wasn’t meant to be taken seriously.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for understanding.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cards have been living a charmed life for about a month.
You can’t convince me that that pitching staff can keep up with the Cubs and Brewers for 162 games. It was bound to come crashing down and now may be the time.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Many thoughts, walking, Fukudome, Soriano and Samardzija
First let us simply put to bed that a walk is as good as a hit, but sometimes a walk is better than a hit. Dusty Baker is a baseball idiot when he stated he didn’t like walks for they clogged the bases…..walks escalate the pressure as invariably it effects umpire’s calls, catcher’s signs, pitcher’s choices and batting situations. Cubs tie or exceed their 1975 record and they will be in the WS.
Soriano; the record is clear, this team wins with Soriano in the lineup and is an average team without him. That would be the same with DLee, A Ramirez and possibly G Soto as well. They have played almost half 47 games without Soriano in the lineup (you could add 2 games in which he was hurt, Cubs won both those games), they are 24-23 when Soriano is on the IR and 35-19 when he is not.
Soriano as Piniella stated in the interview sets up the Cubs offense. Not only an immediate offensive force when leading off, Soriano is a force when the lineup turns over being a run producer. What this does is allow Piniella work the edges of his lineup and bench, which is a Cubs strength.
Fukudome, I think Fukudome showed fatigue and with Soriano back and Fontenot playing effective in the lineup I think playing DeRosa in RF more would do well making him more productive. The same goes for Ramirez who probably shouldn’t be dieting while playing.
Samardzija, I thought all along he would have an impact on the Cubs chances. If Howry needs to find what is troubling him, my guess is he is hurt for I have not seen his good slider for a while, even last year it was only a show piece.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jul 24, 2008 10:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we all agree that the "clogging up the bases" statement by
Dusty was perhaps the most inane statement ever made by a manager? We are all dumber for having to endure him many insipid platitudes. I would be happier if I never heard that statement again.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Reds...
... are tied for 4th in the NL with 384 walks. Must be driving Dusty nuts.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kind of goes to show
players dictate performance a lot more than managers….
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hasn't helped the Reds win, though.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
once again
players dictate performance a lot more than managers….
when Dusty had good players he won (2003 with the Cubs, all those years in SF)
now he has a mediocre roster and its performing in a mediocre way
same thing has happened with Lou throughout his career….
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Dusty is screwing up one of the only duties he has with the offense
The lineup.
The Reds average .097 BB/PA. Their lineup last night was Bruce .073, Keppinger .070, Griffey .146, Phillips .060. Three of the first four hitters take walks at below the team rate.
Meanwhile, the top walkers and where they hit? Dunn (5th), Ross (8th), Griffey (3rd), Hatteberg(7th), Encarnacion (6th).
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 24, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
to that point
the reason we didn’t draw walks when Dusty was around was because we didn’t have players on the roster who typically drew walks. Some of that is Dusty’s fault but some of it is the front office’s as well.
The reason Lou’s teams are drawing more walks than Dusty’s has a lot to do with Fukudome, DeRosa, Soto. a different set of players Dusty never had
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The question, of course, becomes...
... did Dusty go out and ask Hendry to get players who played “his” way? Maybe over time he’d do this with the Reds, too.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair question
but in my opinion you’re not a very good front office if you don’t have an overall philosophy that you’re hiring to try to execute.
The front offices job is to mold the organization with the best possible players to win
The managers job is to get the most out of the players he’s given
If you’re letting the manager influence the decisions on players then you’re not really taking responsibility for your job
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And THAT Is My Lone Criticism of Hendry
He lets the manager influence his decisions. Call it not taking responsibility for your job, or call it being too nice of a guy, or call it macaroni. But that’s how I see it. Thank goodness a competent skipper finally came aboard to work with Hendry…and let’s not discount the ouster of MacPhail, which resulted in the loosening of the purse strings.
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 24, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Managers HAVE to influence some personnel decisions...
... otherwise why hire any specific person?
But I think Hendry gave Baker too much control. That’s not the case with Piniella, I think they decide together.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they have influence over game management
you’re hiring the person to “manage” not to decide personnel
and ideally you’re trying to hire someone who has a philosophy that is in line with the organizations
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, that's not necessarily true.
Modern managers DO have input into team personnel. Would you take a job like that where your boss said, “Here’s the 25 guys I want. Now go win with them!”
Doesn’t work that way.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
A manager that likes to run will not want 8 Paul Konerkos on the basepaths.
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
again
if you had 8 paul konerkos on the team you probably shouldn’t be hiring a manager that likes to run…
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
extreme example - granted.
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we're talking about varying levels of input
do managers have input on the personnel? Sure they have some. But the majority of the input is on a periphery basis. They might suggest some bench players they’re comfortable using or some relief pitchers they’ve had success with in the past, but they’re not dictating the entire 25 man roster and nor should they be
Think about it.
A manager has a chance to watch players outside of his own team how many times a year? Maybe 10 games for non-divisional opponents and 16 or 17 for divisional opponents. Would you want someone making decisions for the roster on 10 game samples???
On top of that managers don’t get a chance to pay attention to minor league games at all outside of getting the updates from the head minor league guys.
The managers job is to manage the people he has. The front office’s job is to give the manager the best talent it can possibly find.
On top of that I’m arguing that a good front office will align the type of talent they’re looking to find with the type of manager who likes working with that type of talent.
How hard is that to understand?
Now, will the front office ask for a manager’s opinion of a player before going out and getting them? ABSOLUTELY
But is the front office sitting there waiting for the manager to generate ideas for who they should target? God… i hope not.
I didn’t say anywhere above that a manager doesn’t have input, I’m just saying the manager’s input should be a SMALL SMALL piece of the information put into making a decision because managers for the most part don’t get a chance to sit back and evaluate players all across the league. They’re down in the bunkers on a day to day basis grinding through a season with their own guys, how the heck could they follow every other player in baseball.
THat’s the front office’s job! And that’s why the front office shouldn’t concern themselves too much with what a manager thinks/wants. Furthermore a good front office should be hiring someone who’s philosophies are in line with their own so that the “input” a manager gives aligns with the philosophies of the organization as a whole
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm maybe I'm just confused
but why is this bothering you so much? The manager and front office need to have a good working relationship and should be on the same page… but i’m not seeing WHY this should be making you so “ranty”.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
girl just left you an offline message
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 24, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm ranty
by nature….
i have some pretty strong opinions
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a tendency to be as well
but… i’m not getting WHY on this matter.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i guess
because of the way the conversation started.
I feel like there are a couple things that drive me nuts on this site:
1) The Lou = God, Dusty = Devil mantras that we get where any time we win now is because of Lou and when we lost before it was because of Dusty (but when we won with Dusty it was in spite of him)
the general idea that managers have a HUGE impact on the overall results as opposed to recognizing the difference in talent on the field between when Dusty was managing in ‘06 and Lou in ‘07/’08, and that talent and front offices in general decide championships a lot more than managers do
2) the anti-ESPN sentiment
3) the Pie/Rich Hill is a huge bust sentiment
4) the anti Michael Barrett sentiment
5) booing
and the beginning of this convo hit on one of my nerves so it probably carried over from there. (the rantiness)
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
The front office has to get guys that will fit well with the rest of the team. This includes the manager and his style of play. You dont sign speed guys for a team managed by someone who doesnt like steals. You dont sign platoon type players if the manager believes in playing guys every day, etc.
A front office absolutely should consult with the manager in player acquisition.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 24, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree to disagree
i think your sentiment is correct
“You dont sign speed guys for a team managed by someone who doesnt like steals.”
I agree with that.
But if you as a front office don’t believe in developing speed or believe in the impact of speed on the bases, then you shouldn’t hire a manager who wants to run all day and night.
You see where i’m coming from?
I think Hendry goes about by hiring the best guy available, not necessarily the guy that matches the organizations philosophy and then adapts the front office’s philosophy to the manager. I think that’s a weakness that can make your front offices abilities dependent on the quality of manager you have.
I’m under the belief you have an overall philosophy and then hire all the way down in line with that philosophy. Scouts, managers, hitting coaches, and of course players, etc, should all be in line with the organizations overall philosophy toward development, approach, etc
All the pieces should fit the overall plan
Not find the best piece and then try to make all the other pieces fit around it, I think that way of management creates inconsistency (which we’ve seen time and time again with the Cubs…)
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well..the manager is hired by front office..
So in essence..there is a circular relationship between organizational philosophy<==>manager<==>Team. So if the organizational philosophy is to build a team in a certain way then they will hire a manager who shares the same ideas and then will draft players/trade for players who can execute this.
by cubsnlinux on Jul 24, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's how
they should operate
i’m suggesting Hendry hasn’t operated that way in the past because Baker and Pineilla clearly have differences in their approaches, enough differences that you’d suggest 1 organization with 1 common philosophy would be unlikely to hire both of those men
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they trade Adam Dunn that will solve Dusty's problem
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can just see him in team meetings saying stuff like - "Why don't you
dudes swing the bats?”
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um I think Lou's statement
That Soriano was a superstar and fans expected to see him play explaining why he
would NOT pull Sori for defensive reasons in late innings with a small lead is right up there
with “walks clog the bases”. I did notice that AFTER the game in which Sori dropped the easy fly
with two out in the 9th costing the Cubs a game he did in fact pull him a few times but I found the
idea that he would OPENLY state he would give Soriano special superstar treatment to appease the fans ( and like Dusty he was not kidding) extremely offensive.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 24, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Started Suspecting Dusty
when he made his proclamation that “black people handle the heat and humidity better than white people”. Shortly after that, he let Prior keep pitching after falling over Marcus Giles and landing on his shoulder, and then I knew he was an idiot. “Walks clog the bases” was the icing on the cake.
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 24, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a fact that darker skinned people historically
handle the heat better than lighter skinned people. It has to do with melanin. There is a reason, that some people are black and some people are white, (beyond the whims & variances of any creator). The closer a race of people lives to the equator, the darker their skin is. This is due to the fact that they genetically evolved that way, due to their environment; close to the equator, where it’s hotter. Another misconception is that black people don’t tan or burn. They do. Black people, (or darker skinned people), are genetically predisposed to function in hot weather. White people are not genetically predisposed to function in hot weather.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Stand Corrected
The mark of a message board’s character is when it’s participants admit being wrong, and I admit to it in this instance.
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 24, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and
that was what was wrong with MDBNIU
by tootle on Jul 24, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactamundo.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Liked The Guy's Passion
Not that he didn’t have his faults but his heart seemed in the right place. He just needs a little polish.
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 24, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish the media that roasted Dusty
for saying that would have done a little research, and realized that they were wrong.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like Dusty
and still reference his “clogging” regularly, but I agree with you Jimmy. The media could have researched it; however, our society has such issues with discussing ANYTHING too important that I think the media’s reaction was just that: a reaction to a “celebrity” actually saying something about, gasp!, race! Rather than analyze or discuss the matter at hand, they point to it and simply say, “Tsk, tsk, Dusty. You should know not to mention race. Ever.” It’s a sorry state we’re in concerning “important” matters such as these.
But all will be remedied and peace, love, and understanding will prevail when the Cubs finally win it all. Just you wait.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
by Kegler on Jul 24, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm waiting with you.
Dusty is not a popular manager. However, he is a learned individual. It cracked me up, and at the same time infuriated me, when the media took Dusty to task for that comment about race, (especially white members of the media).
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But you're not allowed...
to ever make distinctions between races or sexes. You can’t say one race or sex is inherently better at something than another. Unless it’s picking out curtains….Aborigine Females are the best at that hands down.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, gay black men are the best at picking out curtains.
(Not that there’s anything wrong with that…)
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you went there....
and your there alone…I’m not following you.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys
are both cracking me up.
You’re right though, SWL. It’s taboo to speak of anything or making any such distinctions anymore, and that certainly doesn’t help foster greater understanding between races, sexes, classes, countries, etc.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
by Kegler on Jul 24, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a joke Legs...
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Besides,
the truth of the matter is I’d pretty much let any gay man decorate my home. Those dudes have style, man. Not kidding. You watched HGTV lately, or Style Network? And don’t tell me you guys haven’t; if yer married, you know who Nicey and Finola are. Hells yeah.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
by Kegler on Jul 24, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My gay black friend
is always wanting to re-decorate my house. My gay black friend sounds like a bad sitcom title.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not as good as my gay MUSLIM friend...
yeah…it blows my mind too. And he’s a hilarious guy.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's write a film treatment.
We’ll have your gay Muslim friend & my gay, black, Jehovah Witness friend as the main characters trying to live in a small, all white, (and Catholic), midwestern town.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my best friend is an albino lesbian
she lives in amish country
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now we got another character.
Amish country might work better than Catholic…
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
Ok, here we go. Everyone know the band Pork Tornado? They’re kind of a rock/r&B/country outfit with a liberal bent and a great sense of humor. They have a song that is basically this, repeated over and over again:
“I want a fat, black, poor, and handicapped, old single mother lesbian with a high IQ for president.”
Offensive to some….I’m only the messenger. And besides, it’s a great song.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
by Kegler on Jul 24, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ramirez isn't dieting.
You want to play DeRo more in RF? Not a good idea in Wrigley. RF in Wrigley is extremely hard to play defensively. Dome has played defense in RF very well. Now if you want them to use DeRo in RF every now and then to give Dome a rest, (like once a week). I agree with that.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the only mitigating factor here...
...is that, according to an article in today’s Trib (I can’t seem to find a link online), Jim Edmonds is undergoing testing today to see just how seriously his left knee is injured. So, if Jimbo Ballgame goes on the DL, the Cubs may have no choice but to platoon Dome and Johnson in center and play DeRo in right.
And that would mean LBR will likely get more time at second base – which reminds me, could Ronnie Cedeno have looked ANY WORSE at the plate last night. Where have you gone, 1Dec? Cubs Nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Co co ca choo Mrs. Robinson...
RC could look worse. He has before. I hope he gets it together.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly don't see how he could look worse.
Three pitches. One called strike. Two high fast balls, both swung on and missed. Bing, bam, boom. AB over. The man has Corey Patterson Disease.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goo Goo Ga Joob
I am the walrus.
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 24, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
V.I. Lenin.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Jul 24, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this would be another situation
in which (if he were healthy) calling up Pie for a 2 week stint wouldn’t be a bad idea and let him play against mediocre RH’s. I know the offense has been a big issue of late so infusing Pie’s bat would likely only make things worse, but it would be another shot to see if any of the adjustments he’s made can work at the big league level
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about not agreed?
Here’s hoping for the best with Edmonds but if not, I’ll take Fontenot inserted into the lineup – with DeRosa and Fukudome shifting – than another look at Felix Pie. I’ve seen that show, and I’m happy to wait until September call-ups to see it again.
by Damen Jackson on Jul 24, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you won't see it again in September
because everyone would be healthy and playing….
so you either get a sneak peak at it now, or wait until spring training next year and we’re again in the same boat as last year without the safety net of an “option”
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, because there's no way...
that the fastest guy and best defensive outfielder in the organization wouldn’t make the epxanded roster.
And there’s no such thing as no safety net. See Reed Johnson. The Cubs have money and prospects, so they can find a solution if need be. Personally though, I hope that they quietly go about finding a long-term veteran solution anyway, but that’s just me.
by Damen Jackson on Jul 24, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he'd make the roster
but he wouldn’t play….. because we’re assuming Edmonds would be healthy again by then and Pie wouldn’t play if Edmonds were healthy
are you following yet?
And who exactly do you recommend as a veteran CF long term solution?
As for money and prospects, our salary commitments stay the same/moderately increase next year without adding any players, and we’re at 118 million now:
Zambrano +2.75 Million
Ramirez +1.65 Million
Soriano +3 Million
Lilly +5 Million
Edmonds -.140 Million
Fukudome +5.5 Million
Dempster -5.5 Million
Marquis +3.4 Million
DeRosa +.8 Million
Harden +2.5 Million
Wood -4.2 Million
Howry -4 Million
Eyre -3.8 Million
Lieber -3.5 Million
R. Johnson -1.2 Million
Ward -1.1 Million
Total = -1.34 Million
The reason I say our payroll may moderately increase is this figure is without arbitration eligible players who will likely see boosts that result in a few million swinging the other way. So basically we’ll be at about the same point we are now with 8 less roster spots filled (Wood, Howry, Eyre, Johnson, Ward, Edmonds, Lieber, Dempster)
So how much more money do we have? We won’t know until we know who the new owners are, but to assume we can just “buy” anyone to fill gaps is asinine and shows a lack of understanding for our current commitments.
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I forgot who I was talking to...
The answer to the question is that I don’t . Yet. And more importantly that’s besides the point, so I won’t even begin to get into the economics of the 2009 Cubs four months before even they do. And to be frank, you taking my comments and turning into the suggestion that I said that we can “buy anyone” is what’s asinine.
As for Pie, there will be opportunities in September for him to play; one would expect pinch-running, some pinch-hit, and an occasional start or two – especially to rest old legs like Edmonds. I’ve no appetite for two weeks of Pie right now, and I’d be a bit surprised if Lou does either.
by Damen Jackson on Jul 24, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
you might need to remember to bring some actual facts to the keyboard when responding to one of my posts….
its a pain in the “bleep” i know
how does pinch-running, pinch-hitting, and playing once or twice a week give us ANY idea of how much better Pie is equipped to play at the major league level?
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And yeah,
I meant would make the expanded roster.
by Damen Jackson on Jul 24, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right
but making the roster isnt the same as playing
i think we’ve already established Felix is fully capable of getting himself into a major league uniform and sitting on the bench for 9 innings. In terms of his development I dont think he has anything left to prove in that regard
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
has he worn ALL THREE
jerseys? Pinstriped, blue AND Grey?
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm...
you’re right he probably needs more time in the Greys
lets get him up here and get that uni fitted
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guess-dressing hack!
Too many holes in his uniform!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice work!
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
by Kegler on Jul 24, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do the Cubs have prospects?
And, if so, which ones would garner a long-term veteran solution? And exactly who would that long-term solution be?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about agreed?
I dig ED. I am so happy that he has contributed to the team so far, and I hope his knee is going to be ok. At the same time, if he goes on the DL, bringing up Pie for a cup of coffee is the best option. Why? It adds an element that this team needs, speed. Pie is excellent defensively. DeRo is starting to become exposed in the OF. Fontenot is not an everyday player. DeRo really needs more time in the IF, at 2nd, subbing for Rami & D. Lee. Here’s hoping ED will be back soon, hitting HR’s against the Brewers bull pen.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pete's SAKE.
If Edmonds goes back on the DL BRING UP PIE!!!!
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I think we just hit every hot-button topic in this post.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How 'bout that Ryan Theriot!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shhhhhhhh. He hit a double Tues.
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about calling up Pie if Edmonds goes on the DL?
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 24, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Pie Dinged Up?
Something about an ankle or foot injury the other night…
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 24, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read that he did have an AB last night
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 24, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great news after losing the first two in AZ
Remember, even though that dome sucks for the Cubs, we still took the series, 4-2. Now let’s get some payback on the Marlins for the agony they put us through last September
by Mapmaker on Jul 24, 2008 10:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Also Great News:
RJ got rid of the Village People stache!
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sigh
I liked the stache…
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was kind of hilarious BUT
he looked like he worked in a different industry. bow-chicka-bow-bow…
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm kinda glad he lost it.
It was kinda freakin’ me out.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're freakin' out, man ;)
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 24, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Lou and Jim work well together...
I think you need to put a few heads together to figure everything out.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lou always talks about what a great
working relationship he and Hendry have. I think that’s the way it should be.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it safe to say that
Lilly was scrappy on the base paths last night?
Lilly showed me a lot last night. Not great but good enough.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 10:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lilly was SMART
on the basepaths. That’s all I care about.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always love it
when the pitcher steals a base. Loved it when Maddux did it, loved watching Lilly do it last night.
It was funny seeing Rami cracking up in the dugout when Lilly stole third too.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 24, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The stolen base was outstanding.
But he looked like a scared little rabbit when he scored.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's just his face.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You beat me to it...
Was going to say that. Hilarious!!!
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He and Bill Murray, seperated at birth.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha!
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was waitin' for you to notice that!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just got here
and still, best line from daver ever. i was still giggling about it during the game. :-)
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maddux stole a base about 10 days ago
becoming at age 42 the oldest pitcher to steal a base and it is because he is smart because
he sure is slow.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 24, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I remember his quote.
He said something like, “I’m the oldest pitcher to steal a base…and lose.” Man, is it a shame he can’t get some run support.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is getting a little more acerbic lately ( I don't blame him)
After getting a no decision yesterday ( victim of an error, bad Padre base running and leaving with the lead only to see the next guy serve up a gopher ball on HIS FIRST pitch
to lose the lead) making it basically 2 plus months since a win, he said something to the effect that he was pitching GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN ( which he is, no one with an ERA of
roughly 4.00 in that period should have ZERO wins in 14 starts)
For Maddux fans here is a funny bit in today’s Onion
http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/report_greg_maddux_can
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 24, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
all the more reason
for him to come play for a contender. Like us.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dodgers or he stays put
Would be a very good fit and Dodgers pitching in struggling so they should
DO it. Towers HAD to give him away, heck given the screw ups ( hitting AND fielding) behind Maddux I think San Diego should pick up part of the salary but that they will not do.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 24, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was peeved at himself for letting Young steal third
Of course he got revenge on that later on as well.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 24, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was playing with a full passion bucket last night
by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure what that means. Is it somethign R rated or something new at KFC?
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kobe likes to play with a full passion bucket, just ask him
and start listening to the dan patrick show…..inside joke
by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to tell from the Comcast telecast
(and since I didn’t see much) didn’t it look as if Johnson’s slam WAS interfered with? Unless—it hit the top of the wall, the yellow line….I almost flipped over to FSN AZ but then I’d have to hear Mark Grace, and who would want to subject onself to that…
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 24, 2008 10:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
FSN AZ slow-mo
Showed a fan help the ball over the fence
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like it would have hit the yellow line...
and been out for a HR anyway… Cubs deserved a break anyway…
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I was wondering about that.
I agree that the ball appeared to hit the top (flat) surface of the outfield wall. So does that count as a home run or a ground rule double?
And RJ’s slam only further deepened the mystery of accursed Chase Field for me. Leaving the bat, the ball appeared to be on its way to becoming a bases-clearing double (or at least one that would score two runs). All of the sudden, the dern thing just glides over (or, uh, onto) the fence! I nearly fell off the couch. I just can’t seem to judge where any ball in that park is going to end up. (OK, except for Snyder’s home run off Howry. I was pretty sure that was gone the minute the ball left the bat.)
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it hits the top flat, yellow line surface,
it’s a HR. Yes, that ballpark is a mystery wrapped in a riddle. I don’t know what it is. Sumthin’ ain’t right though…
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, cool.
So then D’Backs fans have nothin’ to bitch about – and I have no doubt some of them are bitchin’ right about now.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see that Third-Market
Chicago TV can’t have the same production capacity as Phoenix. Guess that’s the type of replay that MLB wants—which would have taken the slam away. Who knows what would have happened after that…
But the Cubs hadn’t had a break in weeks….
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 24, 2008 10:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I know...
They were showing a replay from like the home plate camera or something, from that distance you couldn’t even see the ball.
"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 24, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if it had been off the wall
it still would have scored several runs, no?
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, a fan wound up with the ball --
So, a GR drouble. 2 runs, not 4.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 24, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right, but if the fan hadn't ended up with it
and it had bounced off the wall, below the yellow line—it scores at LEAST three, no?
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it
would be a bases clearing double when he hit it. Who knew Reed had such oppo power?
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 24, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"...the red-hot Brewers, who have got to cool off..."
likewise, the cold, lifeless Cubs Road Team must heat up, especially at home now. Like someone mentioned above, it’s time for some payback against the Marlins, but they could be formidable, taking 3 out 4 against the Dodgers in LA before the AS break.
by JFCubFan on Jul 24, 2008 10:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But, then again -- yellow line HR
so I don’t know, and I guess the point is moot, anyway
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 24, 2008 10:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lovin' the upbeat dialogue this mornin'
BCB is one big happy family again. Here’s hoping that Big Z is in a like frame of mind this evening.
by Cajuncub on Jul 24, 2008 10:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I expect a big game from Z tonight. He kind of sucked last time
out and I think he may want to prove that he is the ace of this staff.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Call it Day One in the post-MDBNIU world.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did we lose Blue Mike?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, as of yesterday, he resigned from the site.
Here’s a link to the post.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suspect he may return - in some mutated form.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That made my skin crawl.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 24, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mutated mike
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on Jul 24, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of making skin crawl
:shudder:
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GAWD Emelie.
I’m laughing so hard I can’t see the picture any more…and that’s a good thing.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 24, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
guess on the next name?
I’m going with AguaMiguel
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why did Agua come to mind?
damn’t i meant AzulMiguel…
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about Michaelangelo Azurri?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Feeling dehydrated?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've been having a hard time
dealing with the loss of BlueMike
not much eating or sleeping….
maybe i am dehydrated
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The grieving process is a painful one for all of us.
But we will emerge smarter, stronger and, gosh darn it, people will like us.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your wrong.
This is what happens when adults leave the room.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool it, Shecky Green!
The day I care about your grieving process acumen is the day the earth falls off its rotational axis!
(Damnit, I miss him.)
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as I've said
he’ll be back. He’s just on the 15 day DL.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either that...
...or he optioned himself to Triple A. Somewhere in Iowa, there’s a Cubs blogger going, “Who the hell is this guy and why does he keep repeating the same comments over and over?”
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Iowa put up point checks
at the borders. He will be denied entrance.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 24, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bull s..............
guessing he already had a new screen name in tryouts before the resignation.
betting it’s drewish. very counter intuitive.
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that would be
a film-worthy plot twist. I like it. Good thinking, Oak. Drewish did seem to materialize and be the perfect foil for BM, didn’t he? : )
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
by Kegler on Jul 24, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need a "Best Of MDBNIU" fanpost.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 24, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we need a counter
and also, an over-under in… MDBNIU: The RETURN. Part Eleventy-Killion.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure if this has already been mentioned
The Score just reported that Levin was also cut from the bidding for the Cubs
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 11:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What happened to “Deep Pockets” Levin?
by WashUBearCub on Jul 24, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets hope this link works
http://www.reuters.com/article/ousivMolt/idUSN2328665720080724
He bid under a billion dollars
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A fatal mistake!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That crazy that it takes a BILLION dollars to just make it into round two
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by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another Mizzou alum on this site?
Awesome!
by kanderber on Jul 24, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Won't be an alum for another year of two
But good to know there are more Tiger fans around
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by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way - Alumnus means you only attended not graduated. The minute
you stepped into your first class, you became an alumnus. You will become a Mizzou graduate in a year or two.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where'd you learn that? College?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I didn't know that
Also who said I ever stepped into class
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by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you creep to class like a phantom?
10 BCB Points up for grabs to whoever gets the hip-hop reference.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
10 BCB Points awarded to the House of JCD.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who's the man with the master plan?
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, that'd be
RUN’S HOUSE!
You tellin’ me someone ripped of DJ Run?
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
by Kegler on Jul 24, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ain't nuthin' but a G Thang baby...
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot I was talking about Mizzou. I attended the University of
Michigan and we never, ever skipped a class, honest.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Calc Prof questioned me a few times about missing his class...
but I wouldn’t say I was “missing” it Bob.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cue Al....
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not good news.
If Levin doesn’t get the team, I hope Mark Cuban does. I know he’ll make a fool of himself a few times, but he wants to win, and he’ll spend what it takes. Most billionaires are just focused on the bottom line of their investment. I’d rather have an owner who regards the team as his toy than who’s just looking for a quick profit.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jul 24, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A bit more on the ownership situation from Steve Stone
Just talked about it on again the Score. Said that highest bidder won’t win by default (which we already knew).
Talked about how a first-time owner or somebody who “disrupt” other owners. Basically tried to dismiss Cuban’s chances.
None of this may be new info but do with it what you will
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by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 11:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And we all know how Stoney is always right on the money with his predictions/scoops.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't trust what Stony says...
He’s got an axe to grind. He hasn’t been able to get into ownership, or management in MLB for a long, long time. No one will touch him, or give him an opportunity. There is a reason for that. Stony used to be humble and informative, know he’s a know it all that is more concerned with being right, than being good.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just saying what he said
The whole time he sounded like he just wanted to burst out and say GO BREWERS.
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by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steve Stone should always remember this:
The Cubs were the first & only organization to offer him a chance to announce. They buttered his bread first. He probably is rooting for the Brewers.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think also Stone has tried to buy the Cubs in the past
Though he isn’t involved at all this time.
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by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He tried to put together a group
with the intention of buying any team, not the Cubs. The Cubs weren’t for sale (and weren’t likely to be anytime soon) when he did this. The problem is that Stone doesn’t have anywhere near the money to buy a team, so what he was trying to do was find some rich billionaire who would buy the team and let him run it as team president. He’d have a small minority stake, but he’d still control the operations of the team.
He didn’t get far with that plan.
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh77 on Jul 24, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok thanks for clearing that up
Sounds like the kind of thing Stone would do
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by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whats with all the stoney hate?
who wouldn’t be pissed at an organization that fired bc you were doing your job…...wood and prior were being babies at the time and were the downfall of him and chip
by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aside From Hendry, It's A Different Front Office
Maybe someone could tell Stoney this, followed by “let it go”.
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 24, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stone wasn't fired.
He left. He tried to interject himself as announcer into the Cubs clubhouse, where he does not belong. Likewise, Chip wasn’t fired, he left. Chip was good with descriptions and his broadcast voice, but really didn’t know much about baseball. The fact is they tried to interject into the Cubs clubhouse, then denied that they did, and made it a point of contention the rest of year. Not good, not classy. I don’t hate Stony, I just know his history, and no longer trust him, or his motives.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair
Chip wasn’t fired, but his contract was up and the Tribune offered him a pay cut for his next contract.
Maybe not technically a firing, but they certainly told him “We really don’t want you around here anymore.” Chip got the hint.
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh77 on Jul 24, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fired....forced out
i believe they were asked to leave or be fired…...i don’t think any of us have “inside” information so i think it’s all a lot of hearsay
by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't totally dismiss Cuban's chances on Stoney's word. Zell is a real wild card
and he might just take the owner’s on if Cuban opens up his checkbook and tries to blow everyone away. Zell wants cash and may try to run roughshod over the other ownes to try and get as much as he can.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not for or against Mark Cuban...
But tell me again why he’d be a bad owner for this team? Seems like he has deep pockets, a passion for winning, and would be VERY fan friendly. Granted he’s not from Chicago, but he’s not from Dallas either and he’s turned that franchise into a contender almost every year.
"Remember each day this year, where you were, what you were doing, who you were with, how you felt as the Cubs win their way through it. Because if this does turn out to be the promised land we have all been waiting for, you will want to remember, savor, cherish every moment..."
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 24, 2008 11:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree I don't think he would be bad...
He seems as though he has a commitment to winning and is passionate and serious about his team. Hopefully teams!
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The anti-Cuban camp (Al) would probably tell you...
that their fear is based on the opinion that Cuban is a ego-driven owner that loves to be in the spotlight and would get too involved in the day to day running of the club, thereby interfering with the basic decision-making that the “baseball people” should be doing. They think he’s gonna be a guy that thinks HE is more important than the team.
Funny thing, the last owner that was thought of that way had a pretty good run a few years ago (4 WS in 5 years), and his son looks to be a bigger jackass than he ever was.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know that the last owner to think that way was Steinbrenner
Didn’t he buy the yankees before Turner bought the braves?
by tootle on Jul 24, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ted hasn't really meddled directly with his GM or manager the way George has...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did in the 1970s
to the point where he actually named himself manager of the team one day.
By the 1980s, Turner was much more hands off.
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh77 on Jul 24, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And they were not very good in the 70's...
Turner stepped out of the way and THEN they began to build a winning organization.
George was just as bad…if not worse…and the Yankees were winning during his early years with a dry spell in the 80’s, and then the dynasty of the 90’s.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ted just fooled around a bit for fun
He never got involved in any real decisions other than approving budget etc
He has of course not been involved since the Time/Warner debacle
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 24, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Cuban's presence has caused some over-hyped reactions on both sides.
He seems like he would be a descent enough owner even with all of his associated baggage. I don’t know if Zell and Reinsdorf have a past or would tangle in the future but Zell strikes me as the type of person that would not let a guy like Reinsdorf slow him down.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where is Cuban from?
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 24, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pittsburgh Area
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Originally?
He was born and raised in the Pittsburgh area. He lives in Dallas now. His closest Chicago connection would be that he attended Indiana University. That’s as close to Chicago as he’s ever lived.
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh77 on Jul 24, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know where Cuban lives now?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Austin, TX
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Jul 24, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually, just north of Austin
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Jul 24, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I'm wrong
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Jul 24, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
um. okay
so is he not in austin or what?
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, technically, Dallas is north of Austin
but I misunderstood my friend who lives in Texas somewhere near the neighborhood where Cuban lives. She said Preston Hollow in North Dallas. All I heard through my bad cell phone connection was Austin and North.
“Can you hear me now?”
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Jul 24, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was just confused by the
“whoops i’m wrong” and then … nothing.
:-)
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Preston Hollow in North Dallas
a very swank neighborhood
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Jul 24, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
An overhead shot of Mark Cuban's house in Preston Hollow
on Deloache Ave
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Jul 24, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
jeebus
that… is an obscene amount of house.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the 8th most expensive home in Dallas
Spoiler alert: home addresses listed
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Jul 24, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't tell Mark...his ego will force him to add another story and a new wing.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he could add a baseball diamond...
...and the Cubs could have their spring training games there.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i bet if you had his money, you'd have an ego to
it comes with the territory, i don’t hold it against him
plus part of his ego means not being a loser, which translates to being a great owner
by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the pool house is the size of the Field Museum
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on Jul 24, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just found out
I’m going to the game tonight and sitting in the bleechers. Al I’ll try and stop over and introduce myself.
YAHOOOOOO!
Lets do it Cubbies
by slocs55 on Jul 24, 2008 11:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Big Mistake Being Made
After reading these comments…... everyone seems to be looking ahead to the Brewers
assuming the Cubs will sweep or take 3 out of 4 from the Marlins…......
I think the Marlins are the more dangerous team…. and we may be happy with a split…
by nimblenikelfoos on Jul 24, 2008 11:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, I don't think the Marlins...
...are a MORE dangerous team. But they’re not to be taken lightly, that’s for sure. One need only look back at last year’s results against them to see that.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More dangerous than the Brewers?
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah...we can beat these young kids easily.
I mean, don’t you remember how easily we won those 3 games in 03? This series will be a piece of cake. No prob-lemmo. Walk in the park. Mailing it in. Like falling off a log. We have our Big Three going for us to boot. Zambrano, Prior Dempster, Wood Harden!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
in other words
What’s the point? Seriously. The Brewers series is a week aaway. At the rate of posted comments around here, this will be off the main page in 45 minutes. Let’s discuss the games actually happening on Thursday or Friday. Speculating on the games a week away seems very silly to me.
My .02
the pink hat guy is my father
by joeschmitt on Jul 24, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who are you working for today ?
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 24, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
check below
the pink hat guy is my father
by joeschmitt on Jul 24, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've certainly thrown around...
...a lot of spare change today. (.02 cents at a time, to be exact.) Who do you work for, Mark Cuban?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um. this was sort of amusing the first time
but now its tired and irritating. can we NOT do this please?
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
every next series is "dangerous"
at this point in the season.
i doubt the boys in blue are looking past the Fish, but we as fans can.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sori's return prompts me to ask this question...
We all know that Sori can have maddeningly cold streaks in which he does nothing but K, but he can also get hot and carry a team. The team looked better offensively last night even though Sori’s statistical contribution was minimal. RJ also commented on the energy he brought.
That got me to thinking (dangerous, I know)...
Which one Cubs position player can the team least afford to lose? Arguments can be made for many of the guys, but I’m interested in everyone’s opinion on the matter. (Remember also that we don’t have a lot of ML ready position players in the minors right now.)
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jul 24, 2008 12:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DeRosa
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
word
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soto
remember how different this offense was last year with Rob Bowen, etc behind the plate?
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It stunk, but was better than
Barrett.
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
check month by month
it was basically the same all year until Sept
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?team=CHC&year=2007
Month OPS+
April/March 96
May 94
June 105
July 86
August 93
Sept/Oct 121
something must’ve happened in September….
oh right some guy named Soto caught half the games
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barrett was traded June 20th
so the offense actually was better with him around…. until Soto was given PT
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmmm.
You are correct, the stats bear this out. What was I remembering? Was there a run of wins with Koyie catching after the trade?
With Bowen only having 31 at bats, hard to blame anything on him.
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As poorly as Koyie hit...
... the Cubs went 17-8 in games he started.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you.
That is what I was remembering (poorly).
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it also coincided
with a streak with an incredibly favorable schedule, which people tend to forget as well
TEX
CHW
COL
MIL
WAS
PIT
HOU
SF
at the time MIL was really the only “above average” team the Cubs played directly after the Barrett trade
Barrett was the scapegoat for a lot of problems and unnecessarily so
the pitching staff had a better ERA when pitching to Barrett than Kendall and the offense was better, but most will point to the turnaround of the Cubs season with the Barrett trade when it had a lot more to do with some luck turning around and a more favorable 2nd half schedule
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but we have a good backup in Hank
there is no spare derosa lying around.
unfortunately.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you find some spare DeRosa will you send him over to my house?
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on Jul 24, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only after i finish with him
bow chicka bow wow
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can I get in line after you?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jul 24, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure.
:-)
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeRo does seem important,
but the way that Lou moves him, it really amounts to replacing [anyone] with Fontenot/Cedeno. That is fine vs. RHP, but not so fine against LHP.
The one guy that DeRo (probably, though he’d try) can’t replace is Soto. If we lose Soto, it’s Blanco, Hill, and Closser…. Yikes! And there aren’t any good catchers on the block right now.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jul 24, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
i got a warning from BCB to “stop policing fanpost” —how very meta
the pink hat guy is my father
by joeschmitt on Jul 24, 2008 12:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is your last warning.
Stop posting that same statement over and over. We know, you don’t like multiple FanPosts and things being repeated. Enough.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait...how come you never game MDBNIU an ultimatum like that Al?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, let's see.
I only banned him four times. Was that enough?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He got so used to it, he’s self-banning now?
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would call it...
...preemptive self-banning.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You banned him for repeating himself? I thought is was for abusing other posters.
Cause he’s been a broken record ever since he cam back as MDBNIU, and I don’t ever recall you publicly calling him out for it. And Joe-Joe is only cracking wise, MDBNIU actually meant it every time he told us Pitching is KING, Pie is a BUST, and Rich Hill is a 2 pitch pitcher.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude
i am making fun of the fanpost police. i think everyone should be able to post whatever they want subject to being deleted by you
the pink hat guy is my father
by joeschmitt on Jul 24, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, then get a new shtick
this whole “my .02” stuff. booring
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and stop saying that you work for everybody...
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about his repeated statement
that “I work for X (who is trying to buy the Cubs) and you losers know nothing about him.” statement that he’s been repeating over and over?
You’ve been a lot more patient that I would have been.
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh77 on Jul 24, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can be patient...
I work for Jim Edmonds, Jim Hendry & Jimmy Osmond. All this at the same time that I’m on tour with my band Jimmyeatworld. It’s a grueling schedule, but when you know everything, it helps…
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I work for Mark Cuban
So I am really getting a kick out of most of these replies.
Some of you guys are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about.
But trust me…. You don’t.
I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you don’t know what you are talking about.
This is how bad info gets passed around.
If you dont know about the topic….Don’t make yourself sound like you do.
‘Cuz some BCBers belive anything they hear.
the pink hat guy is my father
by joeschmitt on Jul 24, 2008 12:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow - that post sounds eerily familiar.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 24, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe-Joe...you commented last night about Benny Mardones and "Into the Night"....
this one is better….it’s more….Complete.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOLWTFBBQ??!?!
the pink hat guy is my father
by joeschmitt on Jul 24, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was either the worst song I've ever heard...
...or the most brillant piece of music ever recorded. I can’t quite decide.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'll have to listen to their other songs before you make any judgements.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude,
you work for everybody. I work for Jim Edmonds, Jim Hendry, & Jimmy Osmond. All of them agree, Jimmyeatworld is a great band, which of course I agree with, b/c I am jimmyeatworld.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha Ha
This sounds just like the character Kirsten Wiig plays on SNL:
“I AM Mark Cuban, okayyy”
"I have not failed. I have merely identified seven hundred twenty three ideas that didn't work"
by redivycubs on Jul 24, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Getting The Joke
Please explain it to this dolt so I can appreciate it.
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 24, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Joe always claims to work for someone.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crikey, you DO work for Mark Cuban!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Samardzija as Pinch Runner
As an NFL caliber wide receiver, he would have to be the fastest guy on the Cubs. Might Lou use him as a pinch runner in those late inning situations where we really need a base stolen? Or as a pitcher, is he too valuable to risk injury?
by capitolcub on Jul 24, 2008 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Lou would use him,
he has used Marquis to do it before.
Lets do it Cubbies
by slocs55 on Jul 24, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or a defensive replacement corner outfielder...
he can run, throw AND catch.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've never thought about that
very interesting point…..time for someone to do some research on his 40 splits
by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4.62 40
according to SI
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/players/7370.html
although a scouting website has it at 4.50
by capitolcub on Jul 24, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4.62 isnt exactly great for a WR
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jul 24, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's really good
for a pitcher. Maybe that’s why he made the position switch.
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh77 on Jul 24, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
does he get up to speed fast enough?
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two tickets for tomorrows game
I know this is not the ticket exchange diary, I have two tickets $45 each Aisle 434 Row 4 Seat 9+10. If your interested e-mail me at i.m.trejo (at) excite (dot) com. We will have to work out a meet or pick up.
by Imtrejo on Jul 24, 2008 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hello All
This is my first Official Post.
I have been lurking here for about 4 months. I really wanted to open an account but with the Cubs playing such great ball I didn’t want to get on and Jinx them. But with the Cubs losing 5 out of 7 I thought I might get on and see if it might change their luck.
I have enjoyed reading all of you and it is nice to have to opportunity to interact on this blog, but if the Cubs start to suck I will close my account immediately to insure that my presents on this blog does not upset the baseball gods.
As for tonight. I am worried about Z. The offense has been crappy lately and I’m afraid Z will press and when he is pressing his stuff will zip out of the strike zone or be left up in the strike zone.
If any cubs read this blog [I’m looking at you Mark DeRosa] would you please slip a xanax in his pot of coffee tonight?
Go Cubs!!!
I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 24, 2008 1:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Um, welcome aboard.
What’s the story behind your user name?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greetings :-)
I think Z and the offense will be OK tonight. The hitters’ home splits are very favorable and that in turn will keep Z in check. Like Lou says, let’s take things one game at a time, one pitch at a time, one at-bat at a time…
Eat More Katsui
by CaliCub on Jul 24, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're account plays no part in this teams success or failure...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine pays interest.
Only 2 or 3%, but it’s beer money.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Grandfather didn't believe in organized religion
Yet every Sunday he would show up in church.
I asked him why he would rail against the church 6 days a week then come Sunday he would attend church.
He responded, “Just in case I’m wrong.”
I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 24, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
very nice.
always good to hedge your bets. smart man your grandfather.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on Jul 24, 2008 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bizzare....
Your “presents” have no bearing on wins or losses.
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
by carmen_fanzone on Jul 24, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
reply button, schmeply button...
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
by carmen_fanzone on Jul 24, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love posts w/o context
where exactly was this supposed to go?
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm extremely worried about Howry
I really don’t get him at all. I hope Samardzija does get called up, because I believe he could be a much better option than Howry. Gaudin has done a good job, along with Cotts. Cotts is basically a right handed reliever—which makes the activation of Scott Eyre that much more important.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
by Unique on Jul 24, 2008 2:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ted Lilly fan club recap:
Of course, Ted wasn’t content with “only” stealing a base and winning the game while preserving the Cubs lead in the NL Central (will someone please put together a CC Sabithia voodoo doll? Or, at the very least, send him some a couple of deep dish pizzas so he can throw on some weight Bartolo Colon style?). Ted stole the hearts of several Arizona fans as well who quickly took off their #50 Chad Qualls jerseys and, with a few dots of the Sharpie (official pen of the Ted Lilly Fan Club) and quick needle work, became instant #30 Ted Lilly Fans.
r/TheTedLillyFanClub/3/344623325/ted-lilly-steals-base-hearts-in-10-6.html” target=”new”>Link
I love that place
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 2:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
When did you get here?
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a lil while ago
whats up?
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not much,
Boss is in St. Louis, I’m trying to get some work done. I’ll probably stay late and work.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
:-)
yay for the office to yourself, huh?
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
It is nice. A little lonely. If I had a dog instead of cats, I would have brought the dog to keep me company.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd never get any work done
my dog is too much fun. :-)
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd have to force myself.
I’m going to get a dog within the next 6 months or so. Time to add to the zoo.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ginger, my golden retriever, has the attention span
of a 2 year old w/ ADHD.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoops
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, wow.
I just noticed you quoted me in your sig line. Thanks!
It’s weird, too, because I was just about to suggest that the folks over at the The Ted Lilly Fan Club make that their tagline. Something like:
The Ted Lilly Fan Club
It’s just his face.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i did it yesterday
:-) seriously. best line ever.
the TLFC cracks me up. They’re a trip.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was happy to have
Soriano back with the team last night and evidently they were happy to have him back too. Nice to see some of the guys who have been slumping get some hits. I’d love to see a 4 game sweep over the Marlins but will be happy with 2/3 ro 3/4.
Will be nice to have a normal start time tonight.
GO CUBS!!!!
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 24, 2008 2:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
with all that is going on with iowa football
it’s nice to know some things are getting back to normal
by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened?
Ferentz finally move on?
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mishandling of another run-in with the law
nothing more than a bad black eye, captain kirk will still be the coach but he needs to get back to his 10 win seasons quickly bc these iowans are getting restless
by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good 'ol Hayden Fry.
He sure set the bar high for Hawkeye football.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
we can also thank him for the opposing team’s locker room for being pink haha
by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You old enough to remember when Hayden first took over?
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a bad thing wynn...
He was reviled in his first year, then beat Michigan & Purdue the next year, and changed 30 yrs. of Hawkeye FB futility into what it is today.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just because i wasn't born when he started
doesn’t mean i’m not privy to his legacy….......too bad he didn’t quit when he should have
by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying that...
All Iowans know the legacy of Hayden Fry. The problem was that he had great assistant coaches, and delegated to them. Then all of his assistants and former players started getting big jobs and winning. Hayden probably should have left a couple of years before he did. Think of it though, Alvarez, Stoops, Snyder… I wasn’t trying to come down on ya wynn, I like my Iowan friend- I miss the homestead.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didn't think you were
it’s all good…...thats young person talk for, no feelings hurt
by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I made up all good.
I’m not that old.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
next you're gonna say you made up
the internet or the question mark
by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah,
Everybody knows Al Gore invented the internet…
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aww. Poor Jimmy
feelin old, buddy?
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was my Dad's suggestion to Hayden...
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A little bit.
But my youthful mind and energy keep me young.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someday you'll get old too.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am. I got to
meet Hayden. He was very nice to us.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 24, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hayden was the best.
Now the real test for you… Who is Bump Elliot? I’ve got another one if you get this one right.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i got caught up on work
so this isn’t googled…...
but bump was the ad at iowa responsible for hiring the likes of c vivian, dan gable, fry, lute, etc….what’s next?
by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we can get that first win tonight against the Marlins,
I will expect to take 3 of 4 from them.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
by Unique on Jul 24, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone else the brewers are over using cc?
by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 3:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's what I'm hoping.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am hoping for that too but
His pitch counts haven’t been outrageous though…He had a CG on 106 pitches last night. That’s not bad.c
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MIL will not be able to sign CC after this season, so they are riding him hard..
at least that’s how I drive my rental car..
by cubsnlinux on Jul 24, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its also in CC's interest too
he’s gonna get paid after this year.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
provided he still has
two usable arms.
PC load letter!?!? - What the f*** does that mean!?!?!
by N Oakley on Jul 24, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
prior still got a deal from the padres
i’m not worried
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's gonna make over 20 million.
So he’s probably going to the Yankees.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
by Unique on Jul 24, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yankees or royals....
as long as it’s in that other league
by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Royals will not pay him that much.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
by Unique on Jul 24, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do they dry him off before putting him away?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just gonna say...
...cubsnlinux forgot the “and put him away wet” part of that line.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yah i was thinking that last night
which could cause some tension between he and the rest of the ballclub…...they are thinking about the here and now, while he ultimately has his entire career to consider
by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't think so.
But I could careless.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
by Unique on Jul 24, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what's the deal with the shark, is he gettin called up or is just speculation at this point?
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
by CubsBall2202 on Jul 24, 2008 3:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Speculation for the most part.
But he should get called up tonight or tomorrow if Wood is still unavaliable.
Although, I wish Howry was unavaliable.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
by Unique on Jul 24, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he might be today
didn’t that inning take almost 30 pitches last night?
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
But I’m hoping they DL Howry. He’s been the worst reliever on the team for 3/4ths of the season.
Maybe they can DL them both and call up Ceda and Samardzija.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
by Unique on Jul 24, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the problem with howry is that
if he’s not getting that low outside corner call… he’s pretty useless.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
and the fact that he keeps throwing pitches right down the middle. He doesn’t have the stuff to get away with that—not many do.
I’m thinking he’s done.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
by Unique on Jul 24, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suggested Trade
Jays need a Shortstop and pitching.
We need a power arm in the pen and have proved we know how to move starters into relievers.
What about:
Ronny Cedeno and Donald Veal (or Marshall)
For
A.J. Burnett
We then move him to the pen to give Lou the power arm he is looking for.
Just an idea.
I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 24, 2008 3:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No.
Stay away from A.J. Burnett.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
by Unique on Jul 24, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why? Injury Concerns?
If used right he would get less use in the pen.
I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 24, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First, he's making too much to be an a reliever
Second, we have guys in our system that will probably put up numbers similar to what A.J. Burnett will put up.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
by Unique on Jul 24, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too much money?
Something tells me Moneybags Zell doesn’t care because every game the Cubs win he makes another 20 million on the sale of the cubs.
This year is the year we move all in.
I would agree the numbers will be the same but Burnett brings to the table two very good things. First he’s the kind of pitcher Lou love and would trust in tight ball games. Second, at times the guy can be unhittible. Third he’s insurance if Mr. Harder goes down.
I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 24, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The evidence is building.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you might be right about this SWL...
Similar style.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep I see it too.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 24, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cubs won't do it.
And Donnie Veal’s stock is down.
Moneybags Zell?
Okay…..
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
by Unique on Jul 24, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we don't
have guys in our system that can strike out over a batter/inning at the major league level
we don’t.
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jose Ceda.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
by Unique on Jul 24, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ascanio was really good
when he was up earlier
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's still a year away
plus he had a few game where he got rocked in the bigs, was sent down and got crushed in AAA. Tells me his head isn’t on straight quite yet.
I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 24, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or that he had a bad stretch
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jose Ceda vs. AJ Burnett
Ceda 2008 K/9 = 9.5
Burnett 2008 K/9 = 9.0
do i have to go into the differences between high A/AA and the pitching in the AL East?
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh
but you’re lumping together Ceda’s time in Daytona as a starter (where he was told to work on secondary pitches) with his time in Tennesse as a reliever, where his K/9 is 11.78.
Now I’m not saying that Ceda is ready to come up and blow away major league hitters—there’s a lot more to pitching that just a K/9 rate and Burnett, if healthy, would be a better major league pitcher at this time.
But what you said was that the Cubs don’t have a pitcher in the system that can strike out a batter an inning, and that’s wrong.
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh77 on Jul 24, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at the major league level
the exact quote:
“have guys in our system that can strike out over a batter/inning at the major league level”
at the major league level is a PRETTY IMPORTANT part to leave out….
seriously we’re going to compare Burnett who’s striking out a batter/inning not only at the major league level but AS A STARTER IN THE AL EAST
to a guy striking out like 1.3/inning as a reliever in the southern league
seriously??? We’re going down this path?
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love Burnett
and i love that price
but making a trade like that assuming Burnett would transition ok to the pen would be awfully risky
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i HATE the mid season bull pen trade
i can’t think of 2 that’ve worked out.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could be going out on a limb here...
...but, from what I’ve heard/read about Burnett’s personality, I don’t think he’d take kindly to being put in the bullpen.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of like Marquis?
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, yeah.
Just like that.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah... That won't fly with Lou.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 24, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What have you read?
I know what I have seen.
Burnett is essentially a two-pitch pitcher, continuing to rely on a four-seam fastball and occasionally a curve.
Looks like a good pen man to me.
I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 24, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew you'd come back MDBNIU...
I just knew it!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am truly, honestly, 100%...
...hand on the bible, swear on my mother not MDBNIU or Blue Mike.
Nor will I ever yell at you or that dartmouth dude. I also love sue and think what he said to Sue last year was way way way way way way way way out of line.
I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 24, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hm. Either you were less than truthful earlier and have been around
way longer…. or you just let the cat out of the bag.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I read about what happened in some comments last week some time.
It think it was in a fan post.
Honest I’m not MDBNIU.
I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 24, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exacerbate
1. to increase the severity, bitterness, or violence of (disease, ill feeling, etc.); aggravate.
2. to embitter the feelings of (a person); irritate; exasperate.
Use in a sentence:
MDBNIU used to exacerbate most people on this blog.
exacerbate
I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 24, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I believe he used to exasperate everyone on this blog.
However, since dictionary.com has defined the two as synonyms, I guess you pass.
/p.s. learned something new today.
by jbau on Jul 24, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quicker test...
answer this question…
Give us your opinion of Felix Pie’s chances of becoming a viable ML CF’er.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's in the bigs next year
but for his defense not his bat. It might take 2 years for the bat to catch up or it might never happened ever. His career numbers will be better that patterson’s though
I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 24, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will retract my accusation...
for the short-term.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
quick test
what is your impression of Tyler Colvin?
Rich Hill?
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really like what Josh77 has writen about him
I think this kid has a great deal of heart to try to change the way he hits to increase his OBP. Great sign, but still to early to tell.
I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 24, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rich Hill?
I’m rooting for him.
I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 24, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BlueMike
could never make that admission
i’m sold
for now
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you have a talent
as impressive as the photoshop skills
fantastic
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you seen his tattoos?
The guy’s got an attitude. I don’t have time to look around for sources to cite at the moment, but I’ve got to believe that he would never go for a trade that wouldn’t put him in the starting rotation. It’s just not how he rolls. He would consider a bullpen stint a demotion.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tattoos?
Really?
So what do you make of the fact that Theriot has a butterfly on his back (j/k).
You might be right, but he also is frustrated with the Jays because of their lack of winning.
Who knows he might just want to win?
I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 24, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, after the Cubs picked up Jim Edmonds...
...I swore I’d say “that’ll never happen” again. Anything’s possible in this crazy game. I just have a hard time picturing the Cubs picking up A.J. Burnett and putting him in the bullpen. It would be great if it happened.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome back, buddy.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah. that was a real long hiatus
:sigh:
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do that and the team's only backup SS is the guy who backs up everyone else.
As talented as I think DeRo is, he cannot play two positions at the same time. We have absolutely no MI depth at Iowa. You can’t trade Cedeno unless you get Eckstein or McDonald back, and both of them are too expensive to be a backup.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jul 24, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is an excellent point
Something tell me though we should move Cedeno soon. We could throw in another pitcher or two to get a vet back up in to get Eckstein.
But with Fonty, Theriot, and eckstein all on one team the shear amount of scrappiness my rip a hole in the space-time continuum and the earth would be sucked into a large blackhole.
That would be bad.
A lot to ponder for Jim Hendry.
I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 24, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thought of all that "scrap" on our team
made me feel a lil ill.
I’m not particularly worried about our pitching, i think it’ll restabilize soon.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at it this way...
It takes three scrappy, undersized MIers to equal one DeRo!
I remember seeing a picture of the Braves MIers one time: Furcal (5’9”), Giles (5’8”), Jesse Garcia (5’6”) and DeRo (6’1”). DeRo and the dwarfs….
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jul 24, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
wow. thats… a lot of not so tall guys standing in a row.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eckstein?
Really? He’s got no arm & his hitting has trailed off for the last few years. A pitcher & Cedeno for Eckstein? No.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too, but...
This would be a little different.
Burnett would be shortening his inning and hopefully get stronger unlike most bullpen guys who go from crap teams only playing every 4 days to a real race being forced to pitch every other day.
I this is just crazy enough to work.
I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 24, 2008 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone else see the pitching matchups with the upcoming brewers series
as a cubs fan, you gotta like them
by cubswynn on Jul 24, 2008 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like them too
But it would have been fun to see Big Z vs the big lefty hamburger.
I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 24, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now THERE is a home run derby worth watching
woah
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon everybody!
Pre-Game thread is up, join us!!
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 24, 2008 4:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
heres the link for anyone lazy
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 24, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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