How many wins will it take?
As Al mentioned in his game recap, there are a mere 61 games left on the schedule. Hard to believe. It breaks down like this:
32 at Wrigley - 6 against St. Louis, 3 against Milwaukee
29 on the dreaded road - 3 against St. Louis, 7 against Milwaukee
So, my question for my fellow nail-biting, stressed out Cub fanatics: How many wins will it take to win the division? My call is 37 makes it a no-brainer, while 32 makes it a dog fight.
Your thoughts?
Thanks!
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The real answer to this, it's too early to tell.
Example: in 2003, after 101 games, the Cubs were one game under .500 (yes, that’s right, look it up!) at 50-51, and 5.5 games out of first place. The Astros were first, 56-46, and the Cardinals second, 52-49.
I refrain from making any solid predictions this early (and yes, it’s still early). However, I will say that the Cubs are currently playing .584 ball (59-42). If they continue that pace the rest of the year, they will go 36-25 in their last 61 games.
That’d be 95 wins. Will that be enough? Only time will tell.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It is too early to tell
But I think 95 wins will be suitable. The Brewers can’t play like this for the rest of the season, they’ll have to slow down eventually.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 24, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
95 wins...
While it may or may not be enough to win the division (Milwaukee is charging and may still be making moves, so who knows where they’ll end up), it should certainly be enough to may the playoffs. Either St Louis would have to go 39-20 to get to 96 wins or both the Phillies or Mets would have to go 42-19 to get there. Anything else would be completely unrealistic.
While winning the division would be nice, I’d just as soon see one of the Cards and Brewers fade back from contention. That would make making the playoffs an easier path.
by SouthernCub on Jul 24, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh...
“make,” not “may” at the end of the first sentence.
by SouthernCub on Jul 24, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Home-Road Record Prediction
I’m going to be optimistic about the Cubs road record the rest of the way. I say the Cubs will go 16-13 on the road, and that they will post a 20-12 record at home. That would make for a record of 36-25 the rest of the way for an overall record of 95-67. That will be good enough to win the division. The Cubs haven’t done too badly at Miller Park over the years.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on Jul 24, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
93 is my guess
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Jul 24, 2008 11:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What's the point?
Seriously. These “wins” your talking about are months away. At the rate of posted fanpost’s around here, this will be off the main page in 45 minutes. Let’s discuss the wins that we have RIGHT NOW. Speculating on wins we don’t have yet seems very silly to me.
My .02
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 11:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thought it might be fun
to speculate. After all, isn’t that what we do here? Ad nauseum? It just kind of struck me when I read the recap that there were only 61 games left.
Demp and Rich: proof that people that live in igloos and say "eh" can contibute!
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 24, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn't mean it
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Jul 24, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yay!!!
the pink hat guy is my father
by joeschmitt on Jul 24, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both of you knock it off.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Killjoy!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jokes aren't funny when you repeat them 16,592 times.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 24, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We still have about 16,583 more to go then!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's what makes it funny
if you don’t want cliches around here, fine, i’ll stop. the “whats the point” posts work so well (for me – really, it cracks me up every time i post it) because it works for every single topic that is forward-looking, very similarly to the “i work for” posts
the pink hat guy is my father
by joeschmitt on Jul 24, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Cubs could cement a playoff spot over the next 39 games, then the division will be determined
Cubs play 26 of their next 39 games at home where they are playing over .750 ball. In addition Soriano has returned during this stretch where the Cub are 35-19 (.648) when he is in the lineup. These two team facts are related to the question of projecting the outcome.
The only issue that is key is the status of Wood’s finger. I wonder if it got infected, otherwise a blister will heal, he might have to call Alou for a Dominican remedy…..(REMEMBER). I also recall that someone said soaking their hand in a pickle jar was a remedy also, sniff sniff
Cubs also have Harden who even though has been hard luck a dominant starting pitcher should keep them at the pace they have been…..so I will state that they will play .650 + ball and win 26 out of 39 games…..giving them a 9/05 record of 85 wins at that point.
Then going down the stretch the Cubs play 15 of 21 on the road….finishing 12-9…..97 wins will win the division, 95 will mean the wild card or division playoff with the Brewers. Cardinals will also be there…..I had picked 99 wins at the break….
So in conclusion I am saying they win 27 out 30 and 13 out 21 or 40 out 61 down this stretch…..655 ball with Soriano and Harden.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jul 24, 2008 11:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes yes I do Remember... interesting you say that
From May, 2004 Slate published an article,“Why Athletes Pee on Their Hands”, that included a comment about Kerry Wood in regards to his
Alou, one of the few major leaguers who doesn’t wear gloves while batting, is backed up by Yankees catcher Jorge Posada, who says, “You don’t want to shake my hand during spring training.” Even Cubs hurler Kerry Wood mentioned on a local radio show that he’s tried the technique to remedy blisters on his pitching hand (though he wryly added that there’s also a well-known clubhouse cure for headaches: “crapping in your hat”
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 24, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
arr
in regards to his…. urine cure
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 24, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even at 31-30.
we end up 90-72. How many years would we take 90 wins? Now I don’t think 90 is acceptable after the start we had this year, but 90 will probably win the wild card. The Brewers are 58-43, which means to get 91 wins they have to go 33-28 (54%), which is extremely doable. Now the Cubs I expect to win 22 of 32 (68.7%) at home which gets us to 81 wins; with 29 road games, every win over 12 (which puts us to 93 wins) means the Brewers have little room for error. Can we go 34-27 (55.7%)? I think it’s much more realistic to think we can get that 35 or 36 more so 96 wins is probably tops. For the Brewers to win 97, they have to play very well in August when they have only 10 home games and 6 of 17 road games on west coast. We have a good set of home games and off days to stay rested down the stretch. To me, we’ll boost our lead then it’s hang on. I’ll take Pinella over Yost down the stretch. I will never, ever be easy!
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on Jul 24, 2008 1:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
IMO, its not about win total
Counting wins like an accountant is the wrong way to speculate. When it comes to the last 60 games we’ll start to see if the Cubs have the ability to play in the clutch (a la 1998 & 2003 – playoff performance excluded) or if they wilt under the glare (see ‘69 & ‘04).
Counting wins IMO isn’t nearly as important as observing how the team responds to pressure situations. And we’ll certainly encounter them more frequently as September draws to a close.
This is partly why I think the sabermagicians can never fully capture the game with a statistical formula. Game-induced and playoff-race-induced stress makes ballplayers react in funny ways. Some shine and some choke.
Here’s to praying we’ll be better in the clutch than StL & Mil.
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
by Reddevil on Jul 24, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Being a smart ass
the answer would be one more than the 2nd place team.
Realistically, I like your first number. Right, you had 37 with 61 left, of course that was before last night’s win, so now it’s 36. They have 60 so that’d be 96 and would get them 30 games over; should do it with my preseason prediction of winning the division by 5 games.
Oh, BTW the team’s home record right now….. 38-12. That is a winning percentage close to the record-setting 1906 team. That teams ENTIRE season was .763 and they’re home percentage now is .760
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Jul 25, 2008 7:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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