Open Thread: Brewers vs. Astros 7/25
by louslovechild on Jul 25, 2008 7:23 PM CDT
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PrintToday was a disappointment. Instead of living in the past, let's push forward and give Harden some runs tomorrow. He may only need a couple. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Howry sucks, we can't score runs. Keep movin on I say.
No matter how much we only want to worry about our team and our team only, we can root for the Astros tonight together. Might be a little fun. Go Stros! Light em up!
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Tejada
caught stealing on a horrible call. Like, really bad.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.
Balks suck.
Didn’t get a good look at it, tho.
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by Matt Allison on Jul 25, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Who's on the hill for both teams?
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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 25, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions
I have a feeling
the Cubs-Brewers series coming up is going to be one for the ages.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.
I've got tickets for all four games
When I bought them in February, I was hoping it would be for something. This is a bit more than I bargained for. But I can’t wait to get up there. It’s gonna be fun.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 25, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
It will be fun, but not good for stress level
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
by CubsBall2202 on Jul 25, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I can handle it
This has the potential to be the biggest Cubs series since the one in September 2003 against the Cardinals. I think that might have been the best series I’ve ever seen—had the Cubs lost 4 of 5, I’d have said the same thing.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 25, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm just glad
we’ll playing them after their winning streak ends. Which it will.
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by Matt Allison on Jul 25, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
The game thread over at brew crew ball is pretty interesting.
They are spending more time talking about the Cubs than the Brewers (almost)
"There is one thing I will never believe, and that is the Sox are better than the Cubs." - Frank Chance
That's because they know there team isn't worth talking about
because just like last year they will choke the last 2 months and not make the playoffs.
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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 25, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I am going to Mondays game
When I bought the tickets, I thought it would be Z and Sabbathia, but Lilly and CC will have to do.
Were there still tickets available?
I thought all the games for next week were sold out.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 25, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Hope you didn't get raked over the coals too much
A few years back, I bought tickets for a Cubs game in February, and the best seats I could get were in the upper deck. A buddy of mine bought tickets four days before the same game and got seats six rows behind the plate, from the box office. I guess you never know.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 25, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
The Bourne Supremacy!
Now use those wheels, kid.
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Astros pitching
must really suck, because they’ve got some good hitters in that line-up.
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Oh it does
Too bad we couldnt hit it last week
by louslovechild on Jul 25, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
High splitter
Obviously not part of Carlos’ “Hot Zone”.
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2 down
Let’s go, Miggy.
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jeebus
same pitch Lee chased.
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Crap
I do not feel good about this. AT ALL. Parra is good. Better than I thought coming into this season.
OT: Who do you think the Cubs are looking at to platoon with Fuke. As AL mentioned in his recap?
Derosa
is key because he can play anywhere and give guys like Theriot, Rami, and Dome a day off. Ward has looked bad as a pinch-hitter, but would fare better with a start now and then. Blanco needs to spell Soto once a week also, IMO; kid has never had this much worked heaped on him.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.
by Matt Allison on Jul 25, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Fifth inning, 1-0
Relax. Not saying the Astros will win, but … you already get way to stressed about Cubs games. Are you going to get way too stressed out about Brewers games, too?
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 25, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I am always stressed about the Cubs
In the winter it is like I am on Prozac
by louslovechild on Jul 25, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha! In the winter I'm more of a basket case
because I can’t wait until spring training. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 25, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
That starts for me in late Jan or Feb I guess
In November and December, people wonder why I am so calm and laid back all of the time. It is pretty funny
by louslovechild on Jul 25, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
The winters lately have been long and cold
Now that the Illinois high school basketball tournament has gone from two classes to four, it’s not nearly as fun as it used to be. That would bridge me over until spring training started.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 25, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
As far as trades,
I was hoping they’d grab Randy Winn last year; I think he would be great off the bench for the Cubs in the stretch.
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by Matt Allison on Jul 25, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree
Forgot about him. He would be nice. Switch hitter. Plays good Defense.
by louslovechild on Jul 25, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
How is Jake Fox doing
I know he’s been hitting a lot of HRs in the minors, not sure what is average looks like. Could he be an in house solution to play RF against lefties.
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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 25, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
whoa.
Those stats for Parra are sick. I wasn’t aware he was performing like that.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.
"Rodriguez pitching a dandy tonight," Uecker says
So I guess he does it to other teams, too.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 25, 2008 8:32 PM CDT reply actions
He is a good pitcher
He has great off speed stuff. Parra seems just one better tonight. So far.
by louslovechild on Jul 25, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Watching this game
I can already sense how tough next week’s series is going to be. The Brewers are a really good team. The Cubs are going to have to throw them out of this rhythm they get in. Cubs hitters are going to have to be crazy patient to have any hope of getting into the Brewer BP. That might mean called 3rd strikes, but that’s the way it goes. They also should consider pitching the Brewers hitters inside. A lot. A ton. In the very first game. Get inside their heads and throw them off balance from the very beginning. It’s going to be tough.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.
I'd be happy with a 2-2 split
Maybe win the middle two games. Nice if you could sneak out a win in the getaway game.
Although CC is due for a loss. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 25, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubs
are going to have to go at it like it’s a war. The two teams are so evenly matched that they’ll need any outside advantage they can manufacture.
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by Matt Allison on Jul 25, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
You bring up an interesting point
Are they evenly matched?
While we wait for the Astros to wake up, lets compare. Pitchers first
CC vs. Z – Brew
Sheets vs. Harden – Push
Demp vs. Parra – Push
Lilly vs. Suppan – Cubs
Bullpen – Cubs
by louslovechild on Jul 25, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
That's about right, I think
Offense—I’d say it’s about a push.
Bench—Cubs have Ward, Cedeno, Fontenot, etc. Brewers have Kapler, Counsell, etc. Pretty even there.
The Cubs have Lou and the Crew has Yost. That might be the tiebreaker.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 25, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Offense as of late is not a push.
They better show up for next week’s series
by louslovechild on Jul 25, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
As of late, you're right
As of early, Cubs by far.
I think what we’re basically saying is that it’s anybody’s series.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 25, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
True
Cubs hit well in Miller. Should be ok series for us. I am going on Monday. Seeing CC pitch should be interesting.
by louslovechild on Jul 25, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm excited about that
Just to watch CC pitch. Never seen him live before.
I’m counting on the usual high number of Cubs fans being at Wrigley North. A few years ago, the White Sox played at home at the same time the Cubs played in Milwaukee, a day game. Sox drew about 19,000. So more Cubs fans drove 90 miles on a beautiful day to watch a game than the Sox could muster in their own park. Typical. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 25, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
It should be cool
That game scares the crap out of me though. But you never know. We rocked him when Neifi and Macias were playing, so you never know.
by louslovechild on Jul 25, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
True enough
Lilly isn’t exactly cottage cheese himself.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 25, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
No he isnt but, the Brew Crew loves hitting off him
It should be fun. We are sending our best up against there best.
Lilly vs CC
Z vs. Sheets
Parra vs. Demp
Suppan vs. Harden
by louslovechild on Jul 25, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Out at home.
jeez.
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Astros
aren’t playing smart in this game. ugh.
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Pitch counts
after 6 completed:
Wandy 100
Parra 88
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Sh*tty Brewer D comes in handy.
Pitching change. Parra out.
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Astros better tie it here
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
Loretta PHing
Wandy also out.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.
Loretta sac fly, tie game, 1st and 3rd 1 out
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
That exploding
pitch speed graphic FSN has is annoying.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.
Matsui sac fly, 2-1 stros
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
Yes. 2-1 Stros.
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3-1 astros, berkman rbi single
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
I'll take it. 3-1.
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I will also take it until.....
we look at the really weak link of the Astros. The bullpen. We just need to get to the ninth. I like Valverde.
Astros
should be winning this like 6-1.
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The 8th is huge
Whoever goes out there has Weeks, Hardy and Braun (Mr Showboat). Valverde in the 9th is a little easier to take.
He is gonna take one to the melon one of these days
I just hope I get to see it. He is an amazing player. Hands down. But he seems to know it more than anyone.
by louslovechild on Jul 25, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
He's an amazing hitter...
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 25, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait 'til the next Cardinals series
I suspect TLR will be headhunting that day.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 25, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Boy, Braun is getting quite the reputation
He had some showboating problems last year, didn’t he? He’s a great player (at least offensively), but he needs to tone it down a little and remember he isn’t a grizzled veteran.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 25, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Say what you will about our Cubs
but I’d rather be us than the Rays. Don’t look now, but here come the Yankees! Ugh.
"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda
Yeah boy.
Rays will probably get overtaken by the Yankees & the Red Sox.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 25, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Sweetest three words in the English language
In play, out(s)
"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda
My name is Prince
and I am jumpy!
"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda
With apologies to Long John Baldry,
it ain’t easy for any team in the ninth, is it?
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 25, 2008 9:57 PM CDT reply actions
Just back from Phillies-Braves game
If you want to talk about fans ready to jump off the ledge, it’s Phillies fans.
After McCann’s grand slam in the 9th off Lidge, most of the fans in the park left.
One strike!
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 25, 2008 10:02 PM CDT reply actions
Go Crazy!!!
"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda
Later bud
"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda
I'm digging your new tag line bro.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 25, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
And for all the jerks on the Cubs game thread
who had this game in the Brewers’ hip pocket at 5 p.m., I say:
You were wrong. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 25, 2008 10:04 PM CDT reply actions
as we have to say in the securities business:
“Prior performance is not indicative of future results.”
You think that should read “Prior’s…”?
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
Please, don't remind me
Every time I think the Cubs are going through some tough stuff, I think of the Prior/Wood Watch and I feel a lot better.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 25, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
I am so pissed. Harden’s first game was a 12 Sat game, so I didnt get to see it. Second start I had to work late. Tomorrow, another 12 Sat game.
by louslovechild on Jul 25, 2008 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Brewers lose!!!!!
Never thought I’d cheer for an “L” flag
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 25, 2008 10:04 PM CDT reply actions
Still in 1st!!!!!!!!!!
YES!!!
Oh and all the people calling into Philadelphia sports talk radio want to get rid of Chase Utley. Think the Cubs can use him?
Jason Kendall?
Yea that the guy you want hitting down by 2 with a man on and two out in the bottom of the 9th.
Ned Yost will win this division for us
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
Oh, You Ain't Seen Nuthin' Yet
Wait until they hit a real rough patch and Ned starts overmanaging.
Eat More Katsui
WHERE WAS THE GUY THEY CALL THE MUSCLE
BRANYAN I THINK
by louslovechild on Jul 25, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
We gave him 7 runs last time at Wrigley
then the bullpen happened…
"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda
Hart is gone and Marmol brain-farted.
I think neither will happen if we spot him 7 tomorrow.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
Quite so
Plus Harden is philthy! I have much confidence…
"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda
I know
I am just talking about our overall offensive funk as of late.
OT: Do you think a Brewers Loss gets the Cubs pumped? It gets me pumped, but I am just a silly fan.
by louslovechild on Jul 25, 2008 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure it doesn't hurt
Of course if I had to play at noon tomorrow I’d probably be sawing logs right now instead of following the game. Then again, I’m older than Edmonds…
"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda
Speaking of Edmonds
He looked really hobbled today. I would like to see him in there for the Tues game vs. Sheets and the Crew
by louslovechild on Jul 25, 2008 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I like him in there on most days
I didn’t see much of the game today, but I imagine that knee is bothering him still. Luckily we have a sparky alternate in Reed who brings other intangibles to the table.
"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda
The problem is...
... you can’t play Reed Johnson for long periods of time vs. RHP… he’ll eventually stop hitting them.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Let's hope some new trends can begin with this Brewers loss
Hopefully the Cubs can fire up the clutch hitting machine (which I think will solve the bullpen problems) and the Brewers will now come back to earth, especially when we show up on Monday!
We have to make our own luck!
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
This is good news
but the Cubs need to take care of their business. Get those darn bats going and it will be hard to stop the Cubs.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
cards/stros
am i really pulling for the cards and astros this week?????someone pinch me please.the cubs need to start hitting soon and consistenly.cant keep wasting quality starts from the pitchers with no run support. hell cc is 4-0 already and harden cant get a win.when the brewers grab 1st place we can hopefully run them down like last year.
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