Overflow Thread 2: Cubs vs. Marlins, Saturday 7/26, 12:05 CT
Hey, Chicago, what do you say...
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Let's get some runs!
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
by DTJchris on Jul 26, 2008 2:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marshall did a heck of a job
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
Am I the only one who thinks a Harden/Marshall combo is a good idea until mr. got to protect his
pitch count can go 7 again ?
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 26, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think you have designate a certain guy to the job.
We do need a long reliver we can rely on, and Marshall could be it
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the idea......
Though yesterday I said Marshall looked better starting…..He just needs to pitch…..he’s good
The best defense is a good offense
by kcjones on Jul 26, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think its a great idea
It has to be tough for the hitters to transition from Harden to Marshall
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
by El Borto on Jul 26, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except for coming inside on Hermedia...guy's killing inside fastballs right now
but yes, Sean did well otherwise and has been a heck on an asset to the team in any role they’ve asked him to be in. We’re in a tie game, yet again, because of the failings of the offense.
by VolPowers on Jul 26, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cotts time
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by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 2:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Put someone out there we have a little confidence in....PLEEZE
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by kcjones on Jul 26, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats why I am calling for Cotts
Who are you asking for?
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure...
guess I empathise w/ Lou
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by kcjones on Jul 26, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cotts has the best ERA in the pen
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went to write a post in the other rooom...
and came back…top of 8th over already….....better start hitting soon…or it’s going to get ….never mind
The best defense is a good offense
by kcjones on Jul 26, 2008 2:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Chicago what do you say?
The Cubs are going to score 2 runs today
by gocubs40 on Jul 26, 2008 2:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lets make that 2 MORE runs
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lets root for this to happen
"That guy is a gamer." said Ron Santo of Reed Johnson on 07-25-08
by love the ivy on Jul 26, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
flagged for trolling?
fuck you gocubs40, i am here every game.
by xene on Jul 26, 2008 2:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Rameriez hurt/hiding something?
The best defense is a good offense
by kcjones on Jul 26, 2008 2:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
His spikes stuck on the E and he looked like he slipped on that tough play..
I don’t think he’s hurt, but two odd footwork plays…
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by Gibbon Jockey on Jul 26, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon Cubbies-tear up this script-I've seen this movie already, and it sucks!
by VolPowers on Jul 26, 2008 2:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
really it was awful the first time around
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by Emelie on Jul 26, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Wood gonna be back tomorrow or not? Anybody know?
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by dtpollitt on Jul 26, 2008 2:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Marmol...better hope things don't go south early
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by Gibbon Jockey on Jul 26, 2008 2:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't think we'll be needing a closer today
Walk-off or L
For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint.
by Less is Walrond on Jul 26, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't need a closer, gonna be a walkoff if anything.
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by Gibbon Jockey on Jul 26, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if it goes 2 or more extra innings?
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by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't see
how that would require a “closer”
For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint.
by Less is Walrond on Jul 26, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't play for extras.
Not saying to burn through every player in the pen just cause, but you have to manage the game in front of you.
by cwyers on Jul 26, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amazega hits righties better this year. Cotts does not have exaggerated splits
Why is he putting in Marmol now?
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by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 2:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Small-sample platoon splits are unreliable.
by cwyers on Jul 26, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, unreliable does not mean contra-indicated though
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by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we just found a new word
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by dtpollitt on Jul 26, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Over a small sample, you are better off trusting the league average platoon split...
...for the handedness indicated than the small sample.
by cwyers on Jul 26, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marmol has little room
for error here
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by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 2:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
c'mon Carlos c'mon man you can do it
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by Emelie on Jul 26, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
SInce I dont have a life, home with broken ankle, I will be hosting chat for Brewers tonight
by louslovechild on Jul 26, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry about the ankle.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 26, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I'll join you buddy!
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by dtpollitt on Jul 26, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hung that slider
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by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Marmol
I must confess, I’m starting to feel a little anxious every time Carlos comes on
"I sail now?" - Bob Wiley
by OmahaCub on Jul 26, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Please, WhiteCastle...
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OUCH - dang the umps been getting killed today
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by Gibbon Jockey on Jul 26, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it was a little scary
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by Emelie on Jul 26, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hate to see anyone
get hurt.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 26, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't like the book that brings in closers in non-save tie game situations
And I sure as hell hope the thought of using Howry in a save situation didnt cross Lou’s mind.
by VolPowers on Jul 26, 2008 2:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what save situation?
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by Gibbon Jockey on Jul 26, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HUZZAH!!
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by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for that call ump!
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by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice!
That was needed.
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by OmahaCub on Jul 26, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Marmol got his fastball back!!!!
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on Jul 26, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sit Down!
"You put up with a few minor inconveniences when you live in a condemned building."
by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on Jul 26, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
K!
White CASTLE!
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
um
that was a filthy fb not a filthy slider. just sayin.
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by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sometimes they're filthy sliders
sometimes they’re just FAST.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cub Killer from way back
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by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get the feeling that opposing batters are told to look off close pitches from Marmol
since they move so much and wait for pitches right in the zone. They aren’t flailing like they were earlier in the season.
by Mapmaker on Jul 26, 2008 2:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
c'mon Carlos.....
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on Jul 26, 2008 2:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Marmol is scary.
He has such movement on every pitch. It could be in the guys ear or somewhere very far away. I wonder if he knows where its going to end up?
by JoeCub01 on Jul 26, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
did you see the Shark pitch yesterday?
they showed a replay of a pitch that went from LA to Chicago on the movement.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much gas was used in that transit, that's the real question
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by dtpollitt on Jul 26, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
98 mph
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Batting against him has to feel like trying to hit while standing on a treadmill
He just never seems to let the hitter’s feet stay still
by VolPowers on Jul 26, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If anybody was juicing back in the day, Luis was...
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by dtpollitt on Jul 26, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
All 130 pounds of him?
For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint.
by Less is Walrond on Jul 26, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Skinny guys get busted for it too
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give him a golf club
"You put up with a few minor inconveniences when you live in a condemned building."
by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on Jul 26, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm so excited he's got his fastball back!
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by Emelie on Jul 26, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
fungus
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by Gibbon Jockey on Jul 26, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
shit
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by Emelie on Jul 26, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No harm, no foul with that walk
"You put up with a few minor inconveniences when you live in a condemned building."
by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on Jul 26, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But it brings up Ramirez, which is bad
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
by DTJchris on Jul 26, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crap....would rather not have HanRamirez up now.....my stomach is sick again!!!!
by razzpunk on Jul 26, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
almost the same pitch Howry didn’t get yesterday.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did Howry come to the park today? Hope not!!!!
by razzpunk on Jul 26, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
jeez, Carlos is having a hella time locating the fastball
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by Gibbon Jockey on Jul 26, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he's doing better than he was
but that’s not necessarily saying much…
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1-2 on Ramirez!
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by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
one more strike one more strike
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by Emelie on Jul 26, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Crowd sounds defining
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
come on Carlos!
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by El Borto on Jul 26, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
C'MON CARLOS GET IT DONE
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by Emelie on Jul 26, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
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by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DUE UP:
Fontenot
DeRosa
Soto
LETS WALK THIS OFF, CHICAGO!!!!
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by sanantonecub on Jul 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LBR
for the win, pls.
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by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lbr?
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Jul 26, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
little babe ruth
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by Hammer on Jul 26, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
little
babe
ruth.
Santo’s nickname for him, even Lou’s used it.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Labat Blue Ribbon?
Bastard child of PBR and Canadian beer?
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by dtpollitt on Jul 26, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FO9 - wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew
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by Gibbon Jockey on Jul 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes!
Nice pitch. Good swing. Nice catch
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by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BALLS
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by dtpollitt on Jul 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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by Emelie on Jul 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
YES!
DEROSA, NICE CATCH!
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i think i just pooped a little
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by preachermancubsfan on Jul 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
classic
If this was prison I would shank you.
by brownbuddha on Jul 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is the funniest thing i have heard in a while
If this was prison I would shank you.
by brownbuddha on Jul 26, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well with all that cookie dough...
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by Emelie on Jul 26, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHA, thats great...
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by preachermancubsfan on Jul 26, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and teh WHITE bread...
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
better hide
those undies deep in the hamper. :P
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wonder Hampster
for teh win!
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by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
flagged
for making fun of Fontenot!
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by El Borto on Jul 26, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sarcasm I hope
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 26, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What ?
Oh “flagged”. I misread that at first
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's please walk-off in the bottom of 9
I wanna enjoy the rest of this gorgeous Saturday.
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by BMoney79 on Jul 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And breathe!
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
by El Borto on Jul 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Whew!!!!!!
Let’s get one run…..PLEASE!!!!
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone noticed
how pathetic this Marlins offense is? 2 runs!! And with all those power hitters…
:-P
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by Goodie1969 on Jul 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL...sure have.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 26, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phew!
Heart…in…throat.
That looked BAAADD off the bat.
by Mapmaker on Jul 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
(wipes forehead)
that was close…. I’m all for the walk off today
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by TheRamZamDLEE on Jul 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chicago, it's time to
END. THIS. GAME. NOW.
One swing of the bat is all that’s needed!!!
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by sanantonecub on Jul 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sheffield would be nice
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by Hammer on Jul 26, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reed Johnson is batting
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on Jul 26, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“people of the world – this is our moment. This is our time,
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by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Walkoff homer for Johnson
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by El Borto on Jul 26, 2008 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Work the count....be patient.....
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by Gibbon Jockey on Jul 26, 2008 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cmon, Reed
just get a hit.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fu-Man-Chu power!!
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by El Borto on Jul 26, 2008 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Reed has been hot
If this was prison I would shank you.
by brownbuddha on Jul 26, 2008 2:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Pinto
...Migeul Cabreras brother?
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"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on Jul 26, 2008 2:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he just borrowed his face after Miguel got traded
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by El Borto on Jul 26, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would really rather have Fontenot batting.
by cwyers on Jul 26, 2008 2:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lou's gotta hunch
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by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My hunch is that Reed Johnson's not much of a hitter.
by cwyers on Jul 26, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta play the righty-lefty matchup
Right?
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by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did...
the marlins bullpen get to be just lock-down perfect here all of a sudden?
by nervousCUBlover on Jul 26, 2008 2:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I will take a walkoff HPB
Loved that one earlier
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by Doggie Stalker on Jul 26, 2008 2:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DeRO?
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bay-buh BAY-BUH
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by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeezus...apparently the Marlins pen is not human....unreal.....
by razzpunk on Jul 26, 2008 2:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Finally - that f-ing ump has been screwing us all series.
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by Gibbon Jockey on Jul 26, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3-1 on DeRo
I’ll take a BB
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by BMoney79 on Jul 26, 2008 2:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yup pathetic offense all right
we lead the NL in runs AND OBP.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
STOP SLIDING IN TO 1ST!
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn slide.
Thought he was safe anyways
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
dang and now Sinatro tossed
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on Jul 26, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hate the Drake!
"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda
by Goodie1969 on Jul 26, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lou tossed!
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on Jul 26, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lou's Gone! Sinatro's Gone!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Jul 26, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Drake is a damn fool - been messing up check swings all series...
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by Gibbon Jockey on Jul 26, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bye bye Matty and Lou
Fire up the offense.
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by BMoney79 on Jul 26, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Drake wants to insert himself into games it seems
just an ass.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on Jul 26, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
guys believe in your team
they will make you proud
by lexmarklover on Jul 26, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Aw yeah!
"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda
by Goodie1969 on Jul 26, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HE WAS SAFE!!!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Jul 26, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rob Drake is a little punk!!!!!
What a terrible call!!!!!!
by razzpunk on Jul 26, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looked out
after first replay.
"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."
by BMoney79 on Jul 26, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Boy Lou's not giving up
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on Jul 26, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, toss two coaches that fast?
Thats a showboat ump
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This should spark some life
GO GO GEO SOTO!!!!!!!!!!!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
by sanantonecub on Jul 26, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
clap clap clap clap clap
"Super Nintendo, Sega Genisis...."
by TheRamZamDLEE on Jul 26, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
COME ON GEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 26, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Please win this game now
Drake is THE worst ump I’ve seen this year, that is saying a lot.
"Super Nintendo, Sega Genisis...."
by TheRamZamDLEE on Jul 26, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow Lou's coming back out!
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on Jul 26, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is lou out there again!?
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by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was a replay
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by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
steam outta both ears
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on Jul 26, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was safe.
terrible Ump. isn’t that the guy who tossed Lou in the WS game?
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yes, he has now thrown Lou out of three games in the last year and a half
"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08
by JB 23 on Jul 26, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
terrible call.
absolutely terrible.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not surprised...this ass clown ump at 1st hasn't given us 1 borderline call in 3 games
Sitting out there smug with his sunglasses on for three days-needs to be cutting grass somewhere today instead of this job.
by VolPowers on Jul 26, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he was out after the slomo
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by Gibbon Jockey on Jul 26, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate to say it
but that last camera angle made him look out.
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by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looked like it.
"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."
by BMoney79 on Jul 26, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thirded
"Super Nintendo, Sega Genisis...."
by TheRamZamDLEE on Jul 26, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The slide slowed him down just enough so the throw could beat him
The best defense is a good offense
by kcjones on Jul 26, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rob Drake now chatting with Marlins players...dick!!!
by razzpunk on Jul 26, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is why you never slide into first base
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by dtpollitt on Jul 26, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
From that first-base dugout angle
He looked out to me.
Fontenot (fon-te-no): Cajun for "scrappy"
by zambranofan on Jul 26, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the call was close enough to go either way.
and Sinatro has to be ejected for chucking his lid. But the Lou tossing seemed ridiculous
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you see Lou ask the
other ump WTF was wrong with Drake?
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 26, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A tip of my hat to you, sir
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by Gibbon Jockey on Jul 26, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is sitting there talking to Cantu and laughing
Fuck Drake. With that mullet I would say he is business in the front, party in the back, but he has no business, and he certainly is no party.
by louslovechild on Jul 26, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
End it Geo.
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Geo
Put a charge into one. Send the place into a frenzy.
"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."
by BMoney79 on Jul 26, 2008 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DVR shows ball was in the glove before the hand touched the base
I thought DeRo was safe, too, but the replay shows otherwise
Drake got it right
Now, let’s win it
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Jul 26, 2008 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he may have gotten it right...
but in my mind chatting with the marlins 1B afterwards is extremely inappropriate
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by RightFieldSucks on Jul 26, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
indeed.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he did.
they showed the replay from the first-base side. I think he was in.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who gives a shit?
This guy never gives us a break (see Lee check swing called out)
Go back to June at the Cell he threw Lou out for nothing.
He’s just looking for his 15 minutes of fame by throwing people out.
by gocubs40 on Jul 26, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BS! Sure throw Sinatro out
but Lou only went out there to defend his guy, and he gets thrown out? That is rediculous. That one umpire also made Lou come out yesterday after another boneheaded play..
2008 Cubs: Who needs nine innings, when you only need a 7th?
by Chanman25 on Jul 26, 2008 3:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yea, but you dont know what lou said
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Jul 26, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well I mean I could pretty much read his lips
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by Chanman25 on Jul 26, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
then you probably know whu he was tossed
im sure it wasnt nice
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by preachermancubsfan on Jul 26, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was tossed pretty quickly though
he didn’t really curse him out until he was thrown out
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by Chanman25 on Jul 26, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damnit!!!!!!!
"I love when they play that Go Cubs Win song."
by BMoney79 on Jul 26, 2008 3:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
AAAHHHH!!!!
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 3:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure someone already said it....
But yoy DO NOT slide into 1st base…...
What was DeRosa thinking?
The best defense is a good offense
by kcjones on Jul 26, 2008 3:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that the throw was late
and he wanted to avoid the tag.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once you cross the bag/hit the bag...tie goes to runner...stay in foul terriroty and tag doesn't matter.
The best defense is a good offense
by kcjones on Jul 26, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And not only that.....the 1st baseman
was stretched towards the SS as far he he could to catch the ball as early as possible…..
The best defense is a good offense
by kcjones on Jul 26, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I HATE it when players slide into first...
...do you see runners diving to finish a 100m race? The only possible excuse is if and when the tag is coming in and a slide would avoid it.
Dan
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by dtpollitt on Jul 26, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jerrt Hairston jr
does not approve of this message.
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by TheRamZamDLEE on Jul 26, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bob said
almost 100% of time sliding into first gets an out by the ump
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by Emelie on Jul 26, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's stupid. Plain and simple.
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by dtpollitt on Jul 26, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Never slide into first base. Hairston used to drive me crazy with that.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 26, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hairston used to keep his alarm clock
on the floor and dive out of bed to turn it off.
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by Goodie1969 on Jul 26, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think we need a change in the offense
by lexmarklover on Jul 26, 2008 3:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope
They just need to start hitting again.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 26, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh! anything but extras
This offense is non existent.
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by TheRamZamDLEE on Jul 26, 2008 3:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw scott eyre warming
That makes me more angry than Drake.
by louslovechild on Jul 26, 2008 3:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
would you rather like Howry warming up?
by cubsnlinux on Jul 26, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOOOOOOOOOO
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 26, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frankly sportsfans, Lou used a word that's a no-no with umpires
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by Gibbon Jockey on Jul 26, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he did call that guy the magic word
by VolPowers on Jul 26, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he said it was a "magic word"-ing call
and then begged him to pretty, please beg me to call you the ‘magic word”
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by Gibbon Jockey on Jul 26, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well we do know
that he didn’t go out there saying, “Hey, that was a GREAT call! How’s the wife?”
What doesn't kill you makes you stranger -- The Joker
by Emelie on Jul 26, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I personally think Lou was more out to argue the quick hook on Sinatro
and then got it himself just as quickly, and that’s what really pissed him off. Frankly, I don’t even think he argued the call at first base at all from what I could gather.
by VolPowers on Jul 26, 2008 3:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm with you there.. He tossed Matt FAST..
and that was the biggest issue. B/c after that we just started with the other umps.. Anyone else see the accidently chest bump as Lou was heading off the first time. Suspenions possible?
"Go Cubs Go"
by mkcubs21 on Jul 26, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the way he tossed Matt
very arrogant.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the arrogance of the umps these days knows no bounds..
...most of them act as if they have something to prove and want to be part of the action
"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08
by JB 23 on Jul 26, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the Drake was trying to win this league
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 26, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone else catch Lou saying "What the f*** is wrong with that guy?"
In reference to Drake, of course. I laughed.
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by Keith on Jul 26, 2008 3:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Legit question
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also...
A demonstration about what I mean about a SS with some range…
As Theriot never even gets to that ball to make a play
The best defense is a good offense
by kcjones on Jul 26, 2008 3:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
to be fair
Ramirez is the best SS in baseball.
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by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not defensively he isn't
Some people have 3 layers, like pie.
by berselius on Jul 26, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best offensive shortstop in baseball, maybe.
I’m not even sure he’s above-average defensively.
by cwyers on Jul 26, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
I’ll believe you.
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
by Reddevil on Jul 26, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've got Hanley projected to a -4 runs per season in RZR.
by cwyers on Jul 26, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm assuming this is standarized for 0 being the mean?
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by dtpollitt on Jul 26, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then -4 isn't that bad, right?
Unless +1/-1 is one full SD…
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by dtpollitt on Jul 26, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The range between best and worst, true talent...
... is about +15/-15. (There are some exceptions, like Manny Ramirez. Everyone else generally gets moved if they’re much worse than that, like Braun.)
by cwyers on Jul 26, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well then it sounds like Hanley is fairly average...
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by dtpollitt on Jul 26, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a lot of daylight between...
...”best shortstop in the game” and “four runs below average.”
by cwyers on Jul 26, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those weren't my words. I just wanted to know if he was average.
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by dtpollitt on Jul 26, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough.
He’s below the mean, technically. One STDEV is about 6 runs. FWIW.
by cwyers on Jul 26, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should point out that this isn't raw sample data.
It’s three years of data weighted and regressed to the mean.
by cwyers on Jul 26, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boy, the Marlins bullpen has been nails
No runs in the series so far? You have to think they’re due.

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