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What A Difference An Inning Makes: Cubs 9, Marlins 6

When Mike Jacobs' second homer of the day (and yes, it was definitely a HR, the umpires got it right -- it hit off the concrete facing behind the basket, above the yellow line) left the Yard in the third inning, making the score 5-0 Marlins and you could hear the sound of anguished wrist-slitting all over Wrigleyville, I was contemplating how I'd write up a recap of what appeared to be the makings of another mess of a game, and was thinking I'd write a couple of sentences and shut the computer down -- if I even could; when I left my house my cable was completely out and I had no TV, phone or internet service.

About two hours later, Jeff Samardzija had his first major league save and the Cubs had a come-from-behind 9-6 win over the Marlins, not a moment too soon, and that, combined with the Astros' 11-6 win over the Brewers (and when Houston's seven-run fifth inning was posted on the Wrigley Field scoreboard, a huge cheer rippled through the crowd of 41,017), put the Cubs back in first place by a game, awaiting the four-game showdown with the Brewers in Milwaukee starting tomorrow.

Dave said to me when Samardzija came into the game in the 8th and started mowing down Marlins hitters, "He could do for the Cubs what Bobby Jenks did for the 2005 White Sox", and I think that's an apt comparison -- although Jenks, of course, became the closer, and Samardzija won't (unless some really strange things happen). But the Shark could take over a key setup role and it's clear already that Lou trusts him in a game situation. Today, Samardzija seemed more in control of himself -- wasn't overthrowing, the fastest pitch I saw on the ballpark speed meter was 95, and he threw strikes again (16 in 25 pitches). The game ended on a throwback play, Jim Edmonds laying flat-out like he was ten years younger, and catching Jorge Cantu's line drive into the left-center field gap. (Did you ever think you'd hear a standing ovation like that one for Jim Edmonds? At Wrigley Field? Told you this was one special season.)

The game began to turn when Alfonso Soriano tied it with a three-run homer in the fourth. And even though Jason Marquis coughed it right back with a HR allowed to Dan Uggla -- the eighth hit in the series by the Marlins -- give credit to Marquis for eating up innings again. He managed to finish six innings on a warm, though not too humid, afternoon, saving most of the bullpen. And in that sixth inning, we were sitting in LF shaking our heads at Ryan Theriot again, as he just didn't quite have the range or arm to throw out Hanley Ramirez on a grounder to deep short. But then, Theriot followed that with a diving stop and flip on Jeremy Hermida's ball that looked like it was going up the middle, and Mark DeRosa nearly turned it into the slickest DP of the year (WEB GEM!). When Cantu hit into a DP to end the inning, it seemed to energize the Cubs, though it took them one more inning to break through against Mark Hendrickson.

Derrek Lee homered to tie the game. But the key plays came later, when Hendrickson threw a wild pitch while pinch-hitter Daryle Ward was at bat. That prompted Fredi Gonzalez to order Ward intentionally walked (how many times have you seen a pinch-intentional walk?), loading the bases for the Wonder Hamster.

I still can't figure out how a guy that small hits the ball that far. I said to my son Mark (now with a 9-1 record), "You're almost as tall as Fontenot!" (He is, too: 5-2, at almost 13.) His double over Josh Willingham's head cleared the bases and won the game. And though it had no effect on the final score, Fontenot's heads-up baserunning play on Soriano's subsequent grounder to third prolonged the inning for one more batter.

Must-win? No. But "important win"? Definitely, and it'll put the Cubs in a good frame of mind for the series starting tomorrow night (can you figure out the Astros? They take two of three from the Cubs at home, two of three from the Brewers in Milwaukee, and in between get swept by the Pirates).

Finally, a little musical interlude, prompted by watching Scott Eyre get up ... and sit down ... and get up ... and sit down ... at least that many times in the bullpen today, without getting into the game. In fact, since being activated on Wednesday, Eyre has warmed up every day without ever getting into a game, even the 12-inning game yesterday. So with apologies to the Kingston Trio, here is "Scotty Never Got To Play":

Let me tell you the story
Of a man named Scotty
On this and every day
He put on his uniform,
Went out to the bullpen
But he never got to play

Scotty got the call
From the man in the dugout
So he threw a few baseballs
But when he thought he'd go in,
"Sit on down, Scotty!"
Scotty couldn't get in the game

Chorus:
Did he ever return,
No he never returned
And his fate is still unlearned
He may sit forever
On that bullpen bench
He's the man who never returned.
We deserve a few laughs, don't we? On to Milwaukee. I'll be there Wednesday and Thursday.

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Good win

Gonna be a fun next 4 days

by MillsChC on Jul 27, 2008 5:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I have a feeling

that this series is going to rival the 5 gamer against St. Louis a few years back.

It’s gonna be intense

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 27, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking the same thing...

... that this is probably the biggest single series against a division rival since that one (in 2003).

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al,

anybody, (scouts), ooking at Marquis today?

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not that I've heard of.

And if they were, they might not have been that impressed…

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

He was serviceable today, though, no?

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He ate up six innings, which helped a lot...

... rested the bullpen. That IS of value to a team.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly!

He’s got value and Cubs fans should be happy with him.

At least we don’t have to run Paul Kilgus (?) or Steve Wilson out there every 5th day.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kilgus and WIlson

Kilgus was never good. Wilson was decent as a reliever but should never have been a starter. They had a lot of holes in their rotation and that’s why we got stuck with him starting. Things got so bad in the early 90s that even Paul Assenmacher started a game. And I think Mitch WIlliams started a few as well. Those guys definitely belonged in the pen.

Marquis is a better starter than Kilgus and Wilson – definitely.

"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979

by danimal15 on Jul 27, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was saying exactly the same thing

to a Cardinals-fan friend of mine yesterday. Easily the biggest series since the 2003 Cardinals series, perhaps the greatest series I’ve ever seen. (And had the Cubs lost 4 of 5 and everything else happened as it did, I would have said exactly the same thing.)

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 27, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I ran errands

with the Cubs down 6-5. Not because I was giving up but because I wanted to change the mojo.

Does this mean I can’t watch another Cub game this year? I hope not.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Jul 27, 2008 5:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I did the same thing.

When Jacobs hit his second HR I left and went out w/ the dogs. We played in the sprinkler. I came in to get something to drink/check the score just as Riot GIDP.

So I went back out. At least it worked! :-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

funny I did the same...

...we went to the lake with my son and our dog.

A pretty cool experience, I was following the game via my Blackberry and it showed two outs in the 9th…a second later and we actually heard Wrigley erupt (must have been Jimmy Ballgames catch) from the Waveland golf course and then a very faint rendition of Go Cubs Go!

I was pretty jealous that I wasnt there!

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Jul 27, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, you could hear the crowd from that far away?

That’s almost a mile. Amazing.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

when Fontenot got that double

the CAMERA shook.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was LOUD, all right.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

in my living room too. :P

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We appreciate the sacrifice you made today.

Since most of the guys seem to have their stroke back now, I would highly encourage you to watch the next four games.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 27, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I went for a walk when we were down 5-0

Came back and it was 6-5. Tempted to not watch the rest, but thank goodness I did!

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 27, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Game thread

As I mentioned in the game thread i was at a bridal shower this afternoon and when I went to the bathroom I passed the bar and saw it was 5-0 and said a few choice words, Went back to party. Rode home with someone who hates sports so I respected her not wanting the game on. walked into the house just in time to hear Pat call the Fontenot double.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 27, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turd is the new first!

:-P

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So that's where our offense went...

Soriano has returned, it appears, and just in time for this series. Fontenot continues to defy Lou to sit him on the bench. Samardzija looks like the real deal. All in all, a great Sunday afternoon, and a nice mood-lightener to start the week. Bring on the Suds!

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 5:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This happened to Soriano the last time he went on the DL.

Came back slowly, then suddenly got hot and carried the Cubs through an entire homestand.

It couldn’t have come at a better time.

Fontenot is useful—but I don’t think he can play every day. If Lou picks his spots well he can be a very productive bench player.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

I would like to think that Lou is going to be really creative, though, in finding ways to get Fontenot’s bat in that lineup whenever he can. He has a penchant for riding the hot horse.

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im there Tuesday... sorry I wont get a chance to meet you.

btw I listen to the cubcast podcast and Al you were mention on Fridays episode

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's the best podcast IMHO

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

the podcasts are informative, but they make me laugh. They seem like they’d be fun guys to hang out with.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, which podcast is this? And how did it slip by me?

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I picked them up off of iTunes

but you can also find them at cubcast.com. I tried other cubs podcasts and found them frat party juvenile. This one is fun, knowledgeable, and well produced.

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you tell me official name of it? I'm on the iTunes podcast site, but there are about two dozen to choose from

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean the Len and Bob cast, or the Cubscast?

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I download it on my computer.... so I go to the website

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cubcast

I found Len & Bob’s cast to be disappointing … I like cubcast because it’s 30 minutes+, L&B is like 5 minutes. I listen to cubcast in the gym and it’s a perfect fit

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cubscast guys emailed me last week...

... and asked me if I’d do a short interview for their podcast… they’re cool guys and I like their site.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

can't wait to hear it ... a good fit between you and the boys

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little subdued

since the third, more hyper dude, went AWOL and now there’s only two hosts temporarily. I ‘ve been listening since the beginning and enjoy it though.

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Jul 27, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what I like about it is that you can tell they are all friends

so listening to them is interesting, but kinda funny how they kinda pick on each a bit.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly and not in that frat boy south park kind of way either

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats exactly what I meant 180 degrees they seem like guys I'd watch a game with

not to mention one of them took off a cast for comic con. cant get much more anti- frat boy than that. :)

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hello Madtown!

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dells right?

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Baraboo

but I teach in the Dells

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give my regards to Devil's Lake

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Jul 28, 2008 5:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, He is not a everyday player

But he does bring those qualities to help a team win. He can be a PH, PR or take the place of some that needs a day off. He can be that “X factor” that a team needs to win.

by jajonez77 on Jul 27, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

While he didn’t do anything today Im glad Edmonds is back.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 27, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't do anything?

How about that game-ending catch?

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

made me jump up and down!

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

guess dive

face-planting fielder!

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

We’ll take it!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its interesting how much LESS

irritating that is now that he’s a Cub. :-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Food outranked BCB

i was starving.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got some Rico's pizza at the office.

But I’m going to go home soon and feed the girls. Big week ahead, gonna try to get a $2 million month in August.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The rotation looks great for this 4 game set:

Lilly vs Sabathia
Zambrano vs Sheets
Dempster vs Parra
Harden vs TBA

If there’s a better 1-4 in baseball, I don’t know who they are. Is this the biggest series of the year? I think so, at least so far, based solely on the momentum one team will have coming out of it.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 5:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I would say biggest series of the year so far

So its great that the Cubs go into it after winning against a good young team [Marlins] in come-from-behind fashion. While the Brewers, on the other hand, lost to a bad old team [Astros]. Its going to be a great series and hopefully the Cubs have broken out of their offensive funk.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 27, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It very easily could have been an Astros sweep

Remember the Brewers needed a late comeback to win Saturday.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 27, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the fact that CC has had 3 straight complete games--it can't last forever.

This first game will really set the tone for the whole series. If we can somehow find a way to win game #1 with Lilly going against their “rental-stud” (and we are without Woody), that sets us up very well for the rest of the series, with Z, Dempster and Harden throwing the last three and Woody likely back for the last two games (hopefully).

If on the other hand, CC throws another 8+ inning shut down game, the young Suds have the mo-mo going into the last three games of this series. My guess is we really have a chance to crush the spirit of the BrewCrew tomorrow. LET”S DO IT!!

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 27, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The way I look at it

First game - advantage Brewers
Fourth game - advantage Cubs
Second and third games—tossups

I’ll be happy if the Cubs went 2-2.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 27, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. That is why I say

that if we can somehow or another find a way for Lilly to beat CC, that would be a huge letdown for the young BrewCrew. A first game loss will be much tougher on them than the Cubs.

I think the Brewers expect to win with CC throwing against our #3 /4 starter.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 27, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cubs have faced CC once in his career.

June 21, 2006 at Cleveland. That was a putrid Cubs team, but they beat the living daylights out of CC.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

True, this is a very different Cub team. But right there is proof that CC can be hit, and hit hard.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember the Tribe's defense didn't give CC any help.

Not sure if the defensive misplays showed up on the box score, but it definitely affected the game.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Jul 27, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take a split, too...

The Brewers have been playing great baseball even prior to acquiring CC, holding ground against them ain their park to me is a victory for the Cubs. For whatever reason our pen has had some implosion problems v. the Brewers so I am not down about having to rely on Shark for a bigger role right now.

by DudeVf11 on Jul 27, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I give the Cubs an

advantage in game 4. I sure hope Harden can beat TBA ;).

If Harden is pitching like he did Saturday, Lou will leave him in longer for this series.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 28, 2008 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought this too, but then I looked at his pitch counts in his four games with the Brewers:

6 IP, 97 pitches
9 IP, 122
9 IP, 110
9 IP, 106

He’s only given up 5 ER, 7 BB, 20 H, and 31 Ks.

Now, those pitch counts might be high for say, Harden, but Sabathia’s thrown 100+ pitches in 18 of 22 appearances this year. The guy’s a horse. Hopefully it wears him down in the long-run, but he’s sure as hell used to going deep.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's the Brewers' version of Zambrano

And Harden is the Cubs’ version of Sheets.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 27, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am much more worried about how sharp Z will be after throwing 125 in his last start. :-(

I just hope he is staying with his shoulder exercises.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 27, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like our chances

Sabathia is coming off of 2 or 3 complete games? At some point that is going to catch up to them. I understand the rental pitcher mentality. But, they may need him in late Aug. and Sept.

by jajonez77 on Jul 27, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 complete games, IIRC

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since Suppan pitched today

and won’t pitch in the series…who gets the TBA slot? Unless Yost scraps his plan already and uses McClung at home, looks as though it may be Bush.

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Bush was pitching that day

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Jul 27, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess

you’re right! Dan had TBA in there, so I didn’t check first.

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I checked the Brewers' website for probables, and they had "TBA" in that slot

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Check Bush's home splits

brewfan2 told us earlier in the week how he and McClung are now in a home/road platoon based on their splits.

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Jul 27, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I believe you, I was just going off the official website.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, I didn't mean that

Just explaining what I understood from earlier discussions of the Brewers’ revolving number 5 starter slot.

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Jul 27, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Yost sticks with the platoon

Bush will pitch Thursday. He’s starting home games in the fifth slot, and McClung is starting road games in the fifth slot.

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen anything like that before.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 27, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's a roster for the rest of the year.

Zambrano
Harden
Lilly
Dempster
Marshall

Lieber (or someone else)
Cotts
Eyre (or someone else)
Gaudin
Marmol
Shark
Woody

Blanco
Soto
Lee
DeRosa
Theriot
Ramirez
Soriano
Edmonds
Johnson
Fukudome
Cedeno
Fontenot
Ward

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 5:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And do what with Howry and Marqius?

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DFA both.

Try to trade them, if not, release them.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I strongly believe

that is retarded.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just wait and see...

Howry is as good as gone. If the Cubs can find anyone to take any of Marquis ‘09 money, he will be gone.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marquis is fine where he is at.

Howry won’t be DFA-ed.

It has been a rough week but it isn’t smart to just cut these guys with having a clear way to make the team better.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there are those who would argue

that DFA-ing Howry ALREADY makes the team better.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To replace him with who?

Wertz? Hart? Piggy?

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look at the roster above...

The Shark replaces Howry.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Liber is hurt and too old to pitch.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are kidding right?

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LIber is hurt? I missed this...

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's on the DL

for some kind of foot thing.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nothing to support that.

all we know is that he’s barely been ALLOWED to pitch.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactamundo drew...

This guy doesn’t understand roster construction.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

More likely

You’re reacting emotionally to Howry playing badly as opposed to taking a real look at the talent on the team.

Suggest changes but you should be able to show how the team gets better with said changes more than just “I want him off the team.”

That is just childish.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not even going to reply to you anymore.

Why? You don’t understand roster construction. You also don’t know me. I do not react emotionally to the roster. Howry is clearly finished. There are many ways that replacing both Howry & Marquis makes the team better. Number one, it gets another lefty in the rotation. Do you not understand the value of left handers? Number two, you replace Howry with the Shark. I don’t just want anyone off the team. I want pitchers in the rotation & the bull pen who can get the job done. Simple.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

smart idea jimmy

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually female but regardless

my point still the same

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

man!

Woman!
I’m sorry, I thought you were a man.
You could call me Dennis.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

never noticed how sue and i drool over geo?

thats normally the only hint.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we're an open-minded community

you could be a guy and still drool over Geo.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marshall in the Pen is more

valuable with all of these starters getting way to high to pitch counts.

Marquis is a good 5th starter.

Howry is an issues but he’s better than other options as of right now.

And answer this question honestly. When Jimmy Ballgame was sucking in May did you say he was done?

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a lot of us did

but while his offense was not good at the start, his D was pretty on.

All Howry does is pitch. No one expects him to hit. There’s nothing he can do when he’s not pitching to balance his performance out. I dunno if I’d DFA or trade him, but I’d sure love it if he could replace Scott Eyre on the “do-not-use” list. Scotty could use the work, and Howry is best left sitting pine for the foreseeable future.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It only took 30 minutes

for Marquis to go from “above-average” in your estimation to just “good.” Shall we all check back in another 1/2 hr?

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are right

a more accurate assessment of Marquis is above average.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll answer honestly.

I thought it was a shrewd move by Hendry. You can ask Drew & Goodie on here, (both on now). I thought it was such a good idea that I took a beating here on BCB, because I immediately thought it was a better, smarter option that Pie at that point.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll vouch for the Edmonds love

expressed by Jimmyeatworld. He was verbally slapped about but held firm.

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had to eat my words on the whole Edmonds thing

I thought he was done for sure. Guess that is why I one of the reasons I am not a GM.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then I'll give you credit on Edmonds

But I still think Marquis is unappreciated and undervalued.

Howry sucks. I agree. But he’s going to have to work as the “just in case of emergency” guy simply because we don’t have other options. Liber is gone…the shark is untrusted…Cotts and Eyre both suck as much as Howry.

I look at him as a necessary evil right now.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have multiple times atoned for this...

I even have offered to bring muffins to the next fan club meeting. :)

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Shark is already trusted.

The Shark isn’t going anywhere. Did you listen to Lou in the post game, he practically said so. We have plenty of options, which I have pointed out to you again and again.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

barblett bob never came back.. so no malt for me :(

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Malt Cup!

When are you going to be at Wrigley next?

I know I bet Al as well…

Hit me up at bobkrausejr@aol.com.

by BartlettBob on Jul 27, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome that you're "paying" up

Very honorable!

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Jul 27, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

I doubt I will make it this year, but thank you. :)

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But the odds

the shark could

A.) turn into Carlos Marmol
B.) turn into Kevin Hart

If A.) happens great then we have solved our pen problem

If B.) happens then it’s sad and then we are still in search of a back up plan.

If you DFA Howry then we have no back up plan.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

have you watched the two times Jeff Spellcheck has pitched?

There’s no way he turns into Kevin Hart.

Hopefully, he turns into Kerry Wood of 2003, without the injuries.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope your right

but are you willing to bet everything on that fact and doesn’t it make sense to at least keep a back up plan around just in case we are wrong about Shark?

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

to me

Marshall is that back-up plan, not Bobby Howry.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou will never use Marshall that way

He wants guys who throw fastballs and attack the strikezone.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's already used Marshall that way

who came in after Marmol blew that game in the 9th?

Marshall.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right

And not only that, since he is a long man he was able to go 2 strong innings until we pulled out the win. And although we can’t say for sure, Howry more than likely would have handed us a loss.

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Howry

certainly wouldn’t have been able to go two.

I’m not sure I can remember the last time Howry came in and DIDN’T give up a run.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree...

...Lou likes power arms late in the game and Marshall does not fit the bill. Him being a lefty is also an issue, since most the hitters hit from the right side.

There is no way they DFA Howry, and I also don’t think they have given up on him, but as of now, the spot is Jeff S’s to lose.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jul 28, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a Notre Dame man...

and big fan of the Shark, I think we can’t get too crazy yet about him. He’s pitched four innings. The league hasn’t even worked out how to pitch him yet.

I want him to succeed as much as anyone, but let’s not get too crazy yet.

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 27, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tell that to Lou.

He was actually tickled shitless talking about Jeff in his post game PC.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 27, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought

I heard Bob or Len list the split finger pitch as one of Jeff SpellCheck’s pitches. Is that true? If so, is that wise? I thought that the split finger pitch puts a lot more stress on the arm, and leads to more injuries, then say a changeup.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 28, 2008 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,

and I could get killed in a car wreck on the way home tonight. Life is uncertain. However, the Shark has not shown any indications since he was drafted that he will be nothing but a great ML pitcher. Howry is finished, (it hurts to type that, I’m a Howry guy), he is not a back up plan- he’s a primary RH set-up man who can no longer do his job.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with your assessment

except he’s got more upside than any other reliever on the team not named shark.

Trust me. Keep this guy around. Kick him off if the playoff roster if we get that far.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you think Bobby Howry

has a bigger upside than Marshal or Marmol?

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should have been more clear

Biggest up side for the third slot in the pen.

And yes he’s got more upside than marshall.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

I don’t see how.

But, ok.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd take Marshall over Howry ANY day

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 27, 2008 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Jeff Spellcheck

can be consistent, he’s a hell of a better setup man than Howry was even last year, much less this year.

But don’t we have room on the roster anyway? We gave four players to the As and got two back, doesn’t that leave two spots on the 25 man roster?

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know, the other 29 teams aren't blind.

Who in their right mind would take onthe money marquis is owned? I believe he is due $10 million next year!

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Jul 27, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE!

Do not use “retarded” again. Thank you.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Al

I was about to say something, but you beat me to it.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jul 27, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it is silly to DFA both of those guys right now...

...a lot of a key opponents need relief. Marquis is a NUMBER FIVE STARTER. And he has done what he is supposed to in that slot – eat up innings, and keep us in the game. Marshall gives us depth in that position if we have an injury. And Howry, although imploding, I am still not convinced DFA-ing him is a smart move, considering someone like the Brewers or Mets could pick him up (I don’t know the rules for this, however).

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Erye may never pitch for Lou ever again

but for some reason he keeps running Howry out there.

If you want to DFA anyone it would be Erye.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suspect Eyre may be gone when Wood comes back.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you might be right.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Lou

is going to go with Cotts and Marshall as the lefties in the pen? Wouldn’t that suggest that Marquis isn’t going anywhere, b/c who else would join Cotts as a lefty in the pen?

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 28, 2008 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great point about Marquis

He is an above average 5th starter. Just leave him be.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And if we DFA him, don't we have to still pay his $21 million dollar salary?

I’m convinced that the guys that (would) fill in for Marquis are necessary for depth, especially considering how some guys can and have been injured in the past or this year – Wood, Marmol’s overuse, Harden, even Zambrano. DFA-ing Marquis gives us one less guy to call up from the minors. Keep Marquis where he is, let him eat up innings for the last 58 games, and we can worry about what to do with him come playoffs.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If a player is DFA'd.

The team has 10 days to either trade him, send him down, or release him. If the Cubs can get anyone to take any of Marquis ‘09 money, he’s gone. Marquis is not needed for depth. Marmol has been “over used” b/c Howry can no longer do his job.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not $21 million.

It’s about $11 million—what’s left of this year, plus about $9m for next.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not an above average 5th starter.

Marquis is a serviceable 5th starter. However, he is resistant to coaching. Lou wants another lefty in the rotation. Additionally, the Cubs want to get out from under some of his contract. Call it retarded all you want. It is likely to happen.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou wants a lot of things

but the best place for Marquis is in the rotation.

Leave Marshall where he’s at in the pen.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Lou might go to a Harden/Marshall combo

When Harden pitches, he comes out in the fifth or sixth and Marshall goes the rest of the way (or at least tries to).

Marquis isn’t great, but he’s a fifth starter. For the most part, I think he’s pitched like one.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 27, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's pitched well for a 5th starter

and I like the harden/marshall combo idea

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently it gives a team two different looks

Harden with the right-handed heat, Marshall with the lefty curve.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 27, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How would you feel about this:

Harden goes 6, you bring in Cotts for the seventh. In the eigth, you bring in Marmol, Gaudin, or the Shark. Then you bring in Woody to close.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it mean you know

you burn the bullpen every five days. Other teams would know that too. They’d work even harder to drive up the other starters’ pitch-counts, knowing that the pen is gassed. Cotts, Marmol, Gaudin and Woody are the most used relievers. Lou doesn’t like to go to the other guys…

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's right.

I was trying to show another way besides Harden/Marshall. You can’t do Harden/Marshall every five days either. Of course on other days you have to use the bull pen in different ways. I think Lou will use the other pitchers down there when he can count on them to do their job. Eyre is a speciaity lefty, he will only get match-up work the rest of the year.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if he gets any at all.

I’d love to see Lou use the bullpen this way.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it will only be a couple of weeks...

until Lou, Hendry & Larry get the bull pen straightened out. I firmly believe that based on Lou’s past that this will happen, and Lou will be able to count on the ‘pen to do their job, and use it accordingly.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm

What about skipping every 3rd or 4th Harden start by using Sean? That way, Harden stays fresher, and you still get Marshall in?

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jul 27, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't disagree...

...and the Cubs are not going to fail to make the playoffs because of anything Marquis does or doesn’t do. If this club struggles in the last 50 games, it will be because the top 3 pitchers and pen really struggle.

The bats will be ok and will score enouph runs to win their share of games. As always, how this turns out will be dependent on how the pitching performs over 9 innings.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jul 28, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marquis had two pitches to the same guy that came within 6 inches of being long doubles

instead of home runs. Sh^t happens. He still got us through 6 innings today in spite of the fact that he couldn’t keep the ball down. With the wind blowing in, he gives up 2-3 runs max, as those same balls are likely caught.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 27, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, ok

but the wind wasn’t blowing in. It seemed like in the first half of the season, ALL of those balls that would normally be hit for doubles were going out on Marquis. Baseball is a game on inches, and Marquis always seems to come up just a bit short. We won in spite of him, not because of him.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't kid yourself though, he still stayed focused to give the team six innings

and his two long at bats, including the walk before the Soriano 3 run homer was a key to the game. He helped with his bat.

At least he kept his head in the game. That walk was a critical play that allowed Soriano to hit that homer and he wore the pitcher down with long at bats. He was one of the few hitters who had long at bats today.

At least he did something right!!

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 27, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great point!

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did.

I don’t hate Marquis, However, there is a difference between logically assessing a team’s roster and what the players bring to the table, (roster), and just taking what you get. At times, yes, Marquis pitches very well. Like vs. SF a couple of weeks ago, he was consistently ahead in the count, kept the ball down, trusted his stuff and threw strikes. Other times this year, he has just plain stunk, tried to be too fine with his pitches, didn’t pitch to contact & didn’t spot his fastball. The point is that Marquis is inconsistent.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not necessarily a Marquis supporter here, but . . .

isn’t that the definition of a fifth starter, inconsistent? I mean, many teams would love it if their fifth starter had a .500 record at the end of the season. Marquis has games where he is untouchable and then there are games like yesterday where he is average, and then there are the real stinkers.

My problem isn’t necessarily with Marquis, as frustrating as he is. My problem is that we have Marshall on our team, who could do Marquis’ job for a lot less money. I can’t say for sure that Marshall would be better than Marquis, but he couldn’t be any worse. Plus Marshall is a lefty

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 28, 2008 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked the way

Lou brings Marshall in after Harden, its a great tactic to keep opposing teams off balance if Harden has to get taken out early

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 27, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There were a lot of positives to take from today

The first would be the Shark. What can you say? I said it in the game thread. He has that swagger that says “Hit this.” Marmol and the Shark will couple to setup Wood to be a very formidable 1-2 and 3.

Second, the offense. I hope Sori coming back and filling his role helps everyone come out of their funk. This team when it comes to offense is going to come around. They are too good to stay in a slump.

It was a fun, fun game to watch! And it should be a fun, fun series to watch in Milwaukee.

by jajonez77 on Jul 27, 2008 5:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

man

what a relief today’s game was. were still in 1st and the real test comes this week. onward to the brew crew.

Dear SBnation, We need our own server here at BCB seeing how its became very slow due to enormous amounts of traffic. P.S. Impeach Bud Selig!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jul 27, 2008 5:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice reverse jinx btw - it worked

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Jul 27, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but next time just let the rest of us know that and we wont think your a troll... just supersitious

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

I got the superstition part when he said “maybe that will do it.”

And it did!

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Jul 27, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank you

we needed this game bad.

Dear SBnation, We need our own server here at BCB seeing how its became very slow due to enormous amounts of traffic. P.S. Impeach Bud Selig!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jul 27, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the shark

samardzija is now tied with mariano rivera in career two innings saves. how about that!

by brian custer on Jul 27, 2008 5:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That can't be right.

Mariano Rivera has only ONE two inning save in his entire career?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No...

it’s 11 that Rivera has. They had a graphic on TBS today when talking about Gossage.

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rivera has 11

it was on today’s game. Hoffman has 7

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 27, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

Well, ten to go for the Shark.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yes...

“Must-win? No. But “important win”? Definitely”
I couldn’t agree more….it felt like this game was a tide turner.
When I saw your “must win” phrase though I wondered to myself…how many games have you posted in the game thread as “must win” this year?
Hardly any? Any at all?
Last year it seemed like there was a “must win” game every couple of weeks…..maybe this is that special season after all if they deliver the “must win” before you have to call for it….
Onwards to Milwaukee….

by kiwibob on Jul 27, 2008 6:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

are you from/in New Zealand?

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes...

I certainly am…from Auckland…but I’m just about to move to Sydney…

by kiwibob on Jul 27, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beautiful country with wonderful people

have yet to travel there. Close family friends were New Zealanders so I learned a lot about the country. Gorgeous landscape with well grounded people. Hope to get there sooner rather than later.

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 28, 2008 5:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what I want

Rich Harden to get his first win as a Cub this week.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Indeed

And we already can pencil in 10 K’s, if the trends mean anything. I look forward to Braun’s reaction to the filthiness that is Rich Harden. :)

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d rather have 6k’s and 7 1/3 innings

" I played in college, albeit a small one, but darn it I still played and you didn't, so that qualifies me as an baseball expert allowing me to complaing about the Cubs as I see fit"

by Reed's Johnson on Jul 27, 2008 6:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

" I played in college, albeit a small one, but darn it I still played and you didn't, so that qualifies me as an baseball expert allowing me to complaing about the Cubs as I see fit"

by Reed's Johnson on Jul 27, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love that movie!!

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DERREK LEE HAS A DERREK LEE BOBBLEHEAD!!!

in his locker on CSN you could see it behind him, hilarious

by Canseco's Roid Party on Jul 27, 2008 6:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

very funny!

Wouldn’t you love to have your own bobblehead on your desk? (Actually, it’s pretty easy to do)

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember hearing Torii Hunter say one time

that he liked to play MLB video games to see how he would do. I guess there are only 750 guys who will ever have that feeling.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 27, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually that would totally creep me out personally

But iI bet that is funny to see

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can try it out

here! I did it and it’s actually kinda funny.

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was incredibly funny to see... that was pretty easy

althought to actually have it made, bit creepy.

Now sending it to the a friend option…. genius I just have to decide who I want to scare LOL

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Brewers were ripe for an upset vs. the Strohs

They had just come off a very good road trip (OK, GREAT roadtrip) and an emotional 4 game sweep of the Cardinals in new Busch. They have the midweek four gamer with the Cubs and Houston came in for the middle games between those two HUGe series for the Brewers- much like Baltimore did in between the Cubs/Sox games.

So they were ripe. RIPE I say!

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (#13031 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list...)

by Zeke on Jul 27, 2008 6:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

...and due.

So “dew” they were wet!

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (#13031 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list...)

by Zeke on Jul 27, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree look below

Hopefully Brew Traib is runng out of Oat’s

April Cubs 17 – 9 Brew 14-12
May Cubs 18- 11 Brew 13- 16
June Cubs 15 – 12 Brew 16 – 10
July Cubs 11 – 11 Brew 15 – 7 to date

get 3 out of 4 and Cubs get 4 months over 500 + a 3 game lead.

I've been bleeding double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers

by parrotinct on Jul 27, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MIlwaukee

According to Milwaukee radio the Cubs should not even bother to show up tomorrow and Tuesday. Fans saying this is one thing but the professional sportscasters said this.

I agree the Brewers have the advantage tomorrow but Zambrano and Sheets are a tossup.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 27, 2008 6:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe that...

...what all the Chicago media was saying about the Marlin’s chances in games 6 and 7 in 03.

There is a reason they actually play the games.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jul 28, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is so true..................

I mentioned this last night I believe in the Brewer thread…...

That Madison sports radio yesterday morning had this thing about how the teams stack up. It was quite informative, until the guy got to the fans. Just totally ripped Cub fans. I thought funny I’ve lived in Madison going on 9 years and in the last month I’ve seen more Brewer stuff than I ever have before. For the most part they are totally arrogant about it.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to agree

listening to madison sports radio talk about the Brewers they are arrogant and take every opportunity to put down the Cubs. I actually listen to the Homer out of Milwaukee. He can be what the name says, but is more realistic and constructive with his commentary.

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's too bad... I thought they'd be classier than that.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have never

been a fan of Mike Heller. Just seems to be very arrogant and snotty. The other guy came from work on the Dan Patrick Show when it was on ESPN, so you know he has some bias.

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Point.

I shouldnt be surprised, when your a bandwagoner… random hate can make up for lack of knowledge.

Same w/ most of the Brewers fans that come here. The decent respectable ones arent going to waste their time doing that.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd just like to say something to all the Fontenot haters

Please find something heavy and beat yourself in the head with it…repeatedly.

Thank you.

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Jul 27, 2008 6:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Could you be any more of a jerk about it?

Jeebus.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 27, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Fontenot haters on this day

Everyone’s enjoying his performance. No need for bats, just raise a toast!!!

by Cajuncub on Jul 27, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could have been a much bigger jerk about it, yes

I did say “Thank you” after all

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Jul 27, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

totally uncalled for dude.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 27, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

I mean, seriously, DaBard—what is with you? BE NICE TO PEOPLE! That’s a simple request and one that will make life here much nicer.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to ask...what happened to the "fire Al" post yesterday....

and are you planning to but a country house with all the money you make from this site?

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Jul 27, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What idiot

posted “Fire Al?”

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

let it lie

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't

on a thread yesterday. Just curious.

It also pisses me off to no end that someone would possibly even think that, considering the work Al puts into this site.

I look at the other sites within our division, and they do not compare to BCB. They are sloppy, not quickly updated, and nowhere near has comprehensive and fan friendly.

From one Cub fan in the dairy state, you do a hell of a job Al!

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

Much appreciated.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i tried to...

post a response in the opposite direction that that guy went….
i think i understand why it is gone….just leave it alone i guess…i probably shouldnt have posted that

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 27, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"...You want me on this site. You need me on this site..."

Al, not sure if you went through that whole fanpost but if you did, I hope my A Few Good Men scene adaptation towards the end made you laugh. You know me – always trying to find the funny bone in every dark cloud….

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 28, 2008 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I didn't.

That thing had no business being here at all. I know you were just trying to help, but had I seen it when it went up, it would have been deleted immediately.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 28, 2008 4:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

please accept my sincerest apologies then.

I guess this is another example of the dangers of three dimensional thought being presented on a two dimensional platform. Sometimes how it was ‘intended’ isn’t much of a defense.

Please feel free to delete my above comment then and these responses if it’s better to nip it in the bud. Again, I’m really sorry and I’ll try to think more before I post next time.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 28, 2008 5:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aw shucks ballhawk

three dimensions! three dimensions! Al’s saying he would have deleted the diary “had I seen it when it went up”, not your comment. He said he knew you were trying to help.

I liked the speech and appreciated the direction you tried to steer the discussion.

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Jul 28, 2008 5:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we fired Al - - -

BCB would cease to be a self -perpetuating autocracy.
It might become an anarcho-syndicalist commune, where we would take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer week by week. :)

by slide on Jul 27, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

lol. Help! Help! I’m being oppressed!!! You all saw her oppressing me, right?

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 28, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

who was a Fontenot hater?

he’s a great off-the-bench player. Give him as many pinch-hit opportunities and spot starts as possible.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont remember much bashing of Captain Sneaky Power around here...

....although its not so sneaky anymore

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Jul 27, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, I don't think we can call him `

a Ninja anymore…

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Used to see it all the time

And you’ll see it again the first time he fails.

Fans suck that way.

But I was too harsh. Fontenot haters really shouldn’t beat themselves with something heavy.

Sticking their head in their desk drawers and slamming it once or twice should suffice.

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Jul 27, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dood

what is your problem, anyway?

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't hate, just flag...;-)

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Jul 27, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe he's doesnt realize the Cubs are in first?

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

go get a hug from someone dude

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Jul 27, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's confused with the O's... he means Theriot

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah really

The guy is been as valuable as anyone on this team. He really has been the offensive spark for July.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Jul 27, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Without

him and The Riot, Cubs would be in a bigger funk.

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HOF inductions...

just didn’t want to let today go by without saying that I hope this is the last year that there is a ceremony in Cooperstown that does not include our beloved #10.

Here’s hoping that Ron Santo can stay happy and healthy and go into Cooperstown next year with a WS ring on his finger too!

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 27, 2008 7:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1,000,000

...that would be incredible and one helll of way to go in for Ronnie!

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Jul 27, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LSA

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want

to be in Cooperstown when Ron gets in. He is simply the best!

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I felt so bad for him today.....

He made a comment on the radio about how unfortuate it was that Leo didnt make to the hall of fame until after he was gone.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im so there

I am so there when Ron gets in. Originally I was boycotting until he did but had to go for Ryno.

Luckily I have a friend who lives near there to stay with so going is not a big hit money wise.

I am going for Santo and Dawson if they get in. Maybe we’ll see both in 09!

What a way to cap off this season!

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 27, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BBTN just showed the standings in the NL Central..

..as they began a preview of this weeks series, and they had the Cubs in second place;

Milwaukee 60 44
Cubs 60 44

How do you make mistakes like that? Clowns….

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Jul 27, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe they

didn’t get the web-update?

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BBTN

has fallen for the Brewers like a high school crush.

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they were ....

... showing the standings BEFORE today’s games.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al

The general ticket request thread, or whatever it’s called, says it’s closed for posting. Can you open it, or start another thread for us?

by kanderber on Jul 27, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Will re-open comments.

Thanks for mentioning it. If comments get closed in ANY of the ticket threads, email me—I may not see a post here if it gets buried.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who came up with "Jimmy Ballgame"

for Edmonds? Where does it come from?

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 27, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe that the Cardinal fans referred to him

..as Jimmy Baseball when he was in St. Louis and I think he may have become Jimmy Ballgame somewhat sarcastically on this site early on as a Cub.

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Jul 27, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al

Will be at the 3 game set against the Bucs. like to drop by and say hello. My tickets are not in the bleachers, can I still get out to the bleachers? Haven’t been to Wrigley since 1997, so I am not sure of the logistics.
Anyways, will try to stop by.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Jul 27, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You can't get to the bleachers from the other seats.

However, if you email me your seat location I’ll try to stop by your seat before one of the games.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What to do?

Big Z vs Sheets or the Peoria game? Guess Ill be at Wrigley with the headphones on.

Im pretty excited for that game.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll be at Wrigley for the Peoria game, too.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wood

It would be good if he makes his rehab there.

Also is it going to be on TV?

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 27, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No TV.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about radio?

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Jul 27, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You'll have to check the websites of the Chiefs and Cougars.

The Cougars do have a local Chicago-area radio affiliate, so you may be able to hear it over the air. Not sure if either team streams their games.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 28, 2008 4:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most minor-league games

are streamed via milb.com, just like the major league games are.

The difference is that minor league radio broadcasts are free, although you do have to register with milb.com.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Jul 28, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aisle 14 row 9

RIGHT BEHIND THE DUGOUT. I am really excited to go.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be in the bleachers as usual.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How come I didnt see bleacher seats available?

Also—-why didnt you change it up and sit in the concourse?

You will have a chance to use the 383 sticker!

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bleachers WERE available...

... when this game first went on sale in May. They sold out pretty fast.

I thought about sitting in the box seats, but decided to go with the regular spot.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up