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What A Difference An Inning Makes: Cubs 9, Marlins 6

When Mike Jacobs' second homer of the day (and yes, it was definitely a HR, the umpires got it right -- it hit off the concrete facing behind the basket, above the yellow line) left the Yard in the third inning, making the score 5-0 Marlins and you could hear the sound of anguished wrist-slitting all over Wrigleyville, I was contemplating how I'd write up a recap of what appeared to be the makings of another mess of a game, and was thinking I'd write a couple of sentences and shut the computer down -- if I even could; when I left my house my cable was completely out and I had no TV, phone or internet service.

About two hours later, Jeff Samardzija had his first major league save and the Cubs had a come-from-behind 9-6 win over the Marlins, not a moment too soon, and that, combined with the Astros' 11-6 win over the Brewers (and when Houston's seven-run fifth inning was posted on the Wrigley Field scoreboard, a huge cheer rippled through the crowd of 41,017), put the Cubs back in first place by a game, awaiting the four-game showdown with the Brewers in Milwaukee starting tomorrow.

Dave said to me when Samardzija came into the game in the 8th and started mowing down Marlins hitters, "He could do for the Cubs what Bobby Jenks did for the 2005 White Sox", and I think that's an apt comparison -- although Jenks, of course, became the closer, and Samardzija won't (unless some really strange things happen). But the Shark could take over a key setup role and it's clear already that Lou trusts him in a game situation. Today, Samardzija seemed more in control of himself -- wasn't overthrowing, the fastest pitch I saw on the ballpark speed meter was 95, and he threw strikes again (16 in 25 pitches). The game ended on a throwback play, Jim Edmonds laying flat-out like he was ten years younger, and catching Jorge Cantu's line drive into the left-center field gap. (Did you ever think you'd hear a standing ovation like that one for Jim Edmonds? At Wrigley Field? Told you this was one special season.)

The game began to turn when Alfonso Soriano tied it with a three-run homer in the fourth. And even though Jason Marquis coughed it right back with a HR allowed to Dan Uggla -- the eighth hit in the series by the Marlins -- give credit to Marquis for eating up innings again. He managed to finish six innings on a warm, though not too humid, afternoon, saving most of the bullpen. And in that sixth inning, we were sitting in LF shaking our heads at Ryan Theriot again, as he just didn't quite have the range or arm to throw out Hanley Ramirez on a grounder to deep short. But then, Theriot followed that with a diving stop and flip on Jeremy Hermida's ball that looked like it was going up the middle, and Mark DeRosa nearly turned it into the slickest DP of the year (WEB GEM!). When Cantu hit into a DP to end the inning, it seemed to energize the Cubs, though it took them one more inning to break through against Mark Hendrickson.

Derrek Lee homered to tie the game. But the key plays came later, when Hendrickson threw a wild pitch while pinch-hitter Daryle Ward was at bat. That prompted Fredi Gonzalez to order Ward intentionally walked (how many times have you seen a pinch-intentional walk?), loading the bases for the Wonder Hamster.

I still can't figure out how a guy that small hits the ball that far. I said to my son Mark (now with a 9-1 record), "You're almost as tall as Fontenot!" (He is, too: 5-2, at almost 13.) His double over Josh Willingham's head cleared the bases and won the game. And though it had no effect on the final score, Fontenot's heads-up baserunning play on Soriano's subsequent grounder to third prolonged the inning for one more batter.

Must-win? No. But "important win"? Definitely, and it'll put the Cubs in a good frame of mind for the series starting tomorrow night (can you figure out the Astros? They take two of three from the Cubs at home, two of three from the Brewers in Milwaukee, and in between get swept by the Pirates).

Finally, a little musical interlude, prompted by watching Scott Eyre get up ... and sit down ... and get up ... and sit down ... at least that many times in the bullpen today, without getting into the game. In fact, since being activated on Wednesday, Eyre has warmed up every day without ever getting into a game, even the 12-inning game yesterday. So with apologies to the Kingston Trio, here is "Scotty Never Got To Play":

Let me tell you the story
Of a man named Scotty
On this and every day
He put on his uniform,
Went out to the bullpen
But he never got to play

Scotty got the call
From the man in the dugout
So he threw a few baseballs
But when he thought he'd go in,
"Sit on down, Scotty!"
Scotty couldn't get in the game

Chorus:
Did he ever return,
No he never returned
And his fate is still unlearned
He may sit forever
On that bullpen bench
He's the man who never returned.
We deserve a few laughs, don't we? On to Milwaukee. I'll be there Wednesday and Thursday.

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Good win

Gonna be a fun next 4 days

by MillsChC on Jul 27, 2008 5:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I have a feeling

that this series is going to rival the 5 gamer against St. Louis a few years back.

It’s gonna be intense

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 27, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking the same thing...

... that this is probably the biggest single series against a division rival since that one (in 2003).

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al,

anybody, (scouts), ooking at Marquis today?

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not that I've heard of.

And if they were, they might not have been that impressed…

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

He was serviceable today, though, no?

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He ate up six innings, which helped a lot...

... rested the bullpen. That IS of value to a team.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly!

He’s got value and Cubs fans should be happy with him.

At least we don’t have to run Paul Kilgus (?) or Steve Wilson out there every 5th day.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kilgus and WIlson

Kilgus was never good. Wilson was decent as a reliever but should never have been a starter. They had a lot of holes in their rotation and that’s why we got stuck with him starting. Things got so bad in the early 90s that even Paul Assenmacher started a game. And I think Mitch WIlliams started a few as well. Those guys definitely belonged in the pen.

Marquis is a better starter than Kilgus and Wilson – definitely.

"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979

by danimal15 on Jul 27, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was saying exactly the same thing

to a Cardinals-fan friend of mine yesterday. Easily the biggest series since the 2003 Cardinals series, perhaps the greatest series I’ve ever seen. (And had the Cubs lost 4 of 5 and everything else happened as it did, I would have said exactly the same thing.)

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 27, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I ran errands

with the Cubs down 6-5. Not because I was giving up but because I wanted to change the mojo.

Does this mean I can’t watch another Cub game this year? I hope not.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Jul 27, 2008 5:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I did the same thing.

When Jacobs hit his second HR I left and went out w/ the dogs. We played in the sprinkler. I came in to get something to drink/check the score just as Riot GIDP.

So I went back out. At least it worked! :-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

funny I did the same...

...we went to the lake with my son and our dog.

A pretty cool experience, I was following the game via my Blackberry and it showed two outs in the 9th…a second later and we actually heard Wrigley erupt (must have been Jimmy Ballgames catch) from the Waveland golf course and then a very faint rendition of Go Cubs Go!

I was pretty jealous that I wasnt there!

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Jul 27, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, you could hear the crowd from that far away?

That’s almost a mile. Amazing.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

when Fontenot got that double

the CAMERA shook.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was LOUD, all right.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

in my living room too. :P

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We appreciate the sacrifice you made today.

Since most of the guys seem to have their stroke back now, I would highly encourage you to watch the next four games.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 27, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I went for a walk when we were down 5-0

Came back and it was 6-5. Tempted to not watch the rest, but thank goodness I did!

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 27, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Game thread

As I mentioned in the game thread i was at a bridal shower this afternoon and when I went to the bathroom I passed the bar and saw it was 5-0 and said a few choice words, Went back to party. Rode home with someone who hates sports so I respected her not wanting the game on. walked into the house just in time to hear Pat call the Fontenot double.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 27, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turd is the new first!

:-P

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So that's where our offense went...

Soriano has returned, it appears, and just in time for this series. Fontenot continues to defy Lou to sit him on the bench. Samardzija looks like the real deal. All in all, a great Sunday afternoon, and a nice mood-lightener to start the week. Bring on the Suds!

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 5:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This happened to Soriano the last time he went on the DL.

Came back slowly, then suddenly got hot and carried the Cubs through an entire homestand.

It couldn’t have come at a better time.

Fontenot is useful—but I don’t think he can play every day. If Lou picks his spots well he can be a very productive bench player.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

I would like to think that Lou is going to be really creative, though, in finding ways to get Fontenot’s bat in that lineup whenever he can. He has a penchant for riding the hot horse.

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im there Tuesday... sorry I wont get a chance to meet you.

btw I listen to the cubcast podcast and Al you were mention on Fridays episode

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's the best podcast IMHO

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

the podcasts are informative, but they make me laugh. They seem like they’d be fun guys to hang out with.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, which podcast is this? And how did it slip by me?

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I picked them up off of iTunes

but you can also find them at cubcast.com. I tried other cubs podcasts and found them frat party juvenile. This one is fun, knowledgeable, and well produced.

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you tell me official name of it? I'm on the iTunes podcast site, but there are about two dozen to choose from

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean the Len and Bob cast, or the Cubscast?

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I download it on my computer.... so I go to the website

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cubcast

I found Len & Bob’s cast to be disappointing … I like cubcast because it’s 30 minutes+, L&B is like 5 minutes. I listen to cubcast in the gym and it’s a perfect fit

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cubscast guys emailed me last week...

... and asked me if I’d do a short interview for their podcast… they’re cool guys and I like their site.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

can't wait to hear it ... a good fit between you and the boys

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little subdued

since the third, more hyper dude, went AWOL and now there’s only two hosts temporarily. I ‘ve been listening since the beginning and enjoy it though.

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Jul 27, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what I like about it is that you can tell they are all friends

so listening to them is interesting, but kinda funny how they kinda pick on each a bit.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly and not in that frat boy south park kind of way either

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats exactly what I meant 180 degrees they seem like guys I'd watch a game with

not to mention one of them took off a cast for comic con. cant get much more anti- frat boy than that. :)

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hello Madtown!

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dells right?

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Baraboo

but I teach in the Dells

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give my regards to Devil's Lake

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by JohnM on Jul 28, 2008 5:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, He is not a everyday player

But he does bring those qualities to help a team win. He can be a PH, PR or take the place of some that needs a day off. He can be that “X factor” that a team needs to win.

by jajonez77 on Jul 27, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

While he didn’t do anything today Im glad Edmonds is back.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 27, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't do anything?

How about that game-ending catch?

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

made me jump up and down!

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

guess dive

face-planting fielder!

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

We’ll take it!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its interesting how much LESS

irritating that is now that he’s a Cub. :-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Food outranked BCB

i was starving.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got some Rico's pizza at the office.

But I’m going to go home soon and feed the girls. Big week ahead, gonna try to get a $2 million month in August.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The rotation looks great for this 4 game set:

Lilly vs Sabathia
Zambrano vs Sheets
Dempster vs Parra
Harden vs TBA

If there’s a better 1-4 in baseball, I don’t know who they are. Is this the biggest series of the year? I think so, at least so far, based solely on the momentum one team will have coming out of it.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 5:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I would say biggest series of the year so far

So its great that the Cubs go into it after winning against a good young team [Marlins] in come-from-behind fashion. While the Brewers, on the other hand, lost to a bad old team [Astros]. Its going to be a great series and hopefully the Cubs have broken out of their offensive funk.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 27, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It very easily could have been an Astros sweep

Remember the Brewers needed a late comeback to win Saturday.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 27, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the fact that CC has had 3 straight complete games--it can't last forever.

This first game will really set the tone for the whole series. If we can somehow find a way to win game #1 with Lilly going against their “rental-stud” (and we are without Woody), that sets us up very well for the rest of the series, with Z, Dempster and Harden throwing the last three and Woody likely back for the last two games (hopefully).

If on the other hand, CC throws another 8+ inning shut down game, the young Suds have the mo-mo going into the last three games of this series. My guess is we really have a chance to crush the spirit of the BrewCrew tomorrow. LET”S DO IT!!

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 27, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The way I look at it

First game - advantage Brewers
Fourth game - advantage Cubs
Second and third games—tossups

I’ll be happy if the Cubs went 2-2.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 27, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. That is why I say

that if we can somehow or another find a way for Lilly to beat CC, that would be a huge letdown for the young BrewCrew. A first game loss will be much tougher on them than the Cubs.

I think the Brewers expect to win with CC throwing against our #3 /4 starter.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 27, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cubs have faced CC once in his career.

June 21, 2006 at Cleveland. That was a putrid Cubs team, but they beat the living daylights out of CC.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

True, this is a very different Cub team. But right there is proof that CC can be hit, and hit hard.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember the Tribe's defense didn't give CC any help.

Not sure if the defensive misplays showed up on the box score, but it definitely affected the game.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Jul 27, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take a split, too...

The Brewers have been playing great baseball even prior to acquiring CC, holding ground against them ain their park to me is a victory for the Cubs. For whatever reason our pen has had some implosion problems v. the Brewers so I am not down about having to rely on Shark for a bigger role right now.

by DudeVf11 on Jul 27, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I give the Cubs an

advantage in game 4. I sure hope Harden can beat TBA ;).

If Harden is pitching like he did Saturday, Lou will leave him in longer for this series.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 28, 2008 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought this too, but then I looked at his pitch counts in his four games with the Brewers:

6 IP, 97 pitches
9 IP, 122
9 IP, 110
9 IP, 106

He’s only given up 5 ER, 7 BB, 20 H, and 31 Ks.

Now, those pitch counts might be high for say, Harden, but Sabathia’s thrown 100+ pitches in 18 of 22 appearances this year. The guy’s a horse. Hopefully it wears him down in the long-run, but he’s sure as hell used to going deep.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's the Brewers' version of Zambrano

And Harden is the Cubs’ version of Sheets.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 27, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am much more worried about how sharp Z will be after throwing 125 in his last start. :-(

I just hope he is staying with his shoulder exercises.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 27, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like our chances

Sabathia is coming off of 2 or 3 complete games? At some point that is going to catch up to them. I understand the rental pitcher mentality. But, they may need him in late Aug. and Sept.

by jajonez77 on Jul 27, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 complete games, IIRC

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since Suppan pitched today

and won’t pitch in the series…who gets the TBA slot? Unless Yost scraps his plan already and uses McClung at home, looks as though it may be Bush.

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Bush was pitching that day

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Jul 27, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess

you’re right! Dan had TBA in there, so I didn’t check first.

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I checked the Brewers' website for probables, and they had "TBA" in that slot

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Check Bush's home splits

brewfan2 told us earlier in the week how he and McClung are now in a home/road platoon based on their splits.

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Jul 27, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I believe you, I was just going off the official website.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, I didn't mean that

Just explaining what I understood from earlier discussions of the Brewers’ revolving number 5 starter slot.

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Jul 27, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Yost sticks with the platoon

Bush will pitch Thursday. He’s starting home games in the fifth slot, and McClung is starting road games in the fifth slot.

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen anything like that before.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 27, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's a roster for the rest of the year.

Zambrano
Harden
Lilly
Dempster
Marshall

Lieber (or someone else)
Cotts
Eyre (or someone else)
Gaudin
Marmol
Shark
Woody

Blanco
Soto
Lee
DeRosa
Theriot
Ramirez
Soriano
Edmonds
Johnson
Fukudome
Cedeno
Fontenot
Ward

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 5:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And do what with Howry and Marqius?

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DFA both.

Try to trade them, if not, release them.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I strongly believe

that is retarded.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just wait and see...

Howry is as good as gone. If the Cubs can find anyone to take any of Marquis ‘09 money, he will be gone.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marquis is fine where he is at.

Howry won’t be DFA-ed.

It has been a rough week but it isn’t smart to just cut these guys with having a clear way to make the team better.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there are those who would argue

that DFA-ing Howry ALREADY makes the team better.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To replace him with who?

Wertz? Hart? Piggy?

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look at the roster above...

The Shark replaces Howry.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Liber is hurt and too old to pitch.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are kidding right?

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LIber is hurt? I missed this...

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's on the DL

for some kind of foot thing.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nothing to support that.

all we know is that he’s barely been ALLOWED to pitch.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactamundo drew...

This guy doesn’t understand roster construction.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

More likely

You’re reacting emotionally to Howry playing badly as opposed to taking a real look at the talent on the team.

Suggest changes but you should be able to show how the team gets better with said changes more than just “I want him off the team.”

That is just childish.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not even going to reply to you anymore.

Why? You don’t understand roster construction. You also don’t know me. I do not react emotionally to the roster. Howry is clearly finished. There are many ways that replacing both Howry & Marquis makes the team better. Number one, it gets another lefty in the rotation. Do you not understand the value of left handers? Number two, you replace Howry with the Shark. I don’t just want anyone off the team. I want pitchers in the rotation & the bull pen who can get the job done. Simple.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

smart idea jimmy

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually female but regardless

my point still the same

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

man!

Woman!
I’m sorry, I thought you were a man.
You could call me Dennis.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

never noticed how sue and i drool over geo?

thats normally the only hint.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we're an open-minded community

you could be a guy and still drool over Geo.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marshall in the Pen is more

valuable with all of these starters getting way to high to pitch counts.

Marquis is a good 5th starter.

Howry is an issues but he’s better than other options as of right now.

And answer this question honestly. When Jimmy Ballgame was sucking in May did you say he was done?

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a lot of us did

but while his offense was not good at the start, his D was pretty on.

All Howry does is pitch. No one expects him to hit. There’s nothing he can do when he’s not pitching to balance his performance out. I dunno if I’d DFA or trade him, but I’d sure love it if he could replace Scott Eyre on the “do-not-use” list. Scotty could use the work, and Howry is best left sitting pine for the foreseeable future.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It only took 30 minutes

for Marquis to go from “above-average” in your estimation to just “good.” Shall we all check back in another 1/2 hr?

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are right

a more accurate assessment of Marquis is above average.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll answer honestly.

I thought it was a shrewd move by Hendry. You can ask Drew & Goodie on here, (both on now). I thought it was such a good idea that I took a beating here on BCB, because I immediately thought it was a better, smarter option that Pie at that point.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll vouch for the Edmonds love

expressed by Jimmyeatworld. He was verbally slapped about but held firm.

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had to eat my words on the whole Edmonds thing

I thought he was done for sure. Guess that is why I one of the reasons I am not a GM.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then I'll give you credit on Edmonds

But I still think Marquis is unappreciated and undervalued.

Howry sucks. I agree. But he’s going to have to work as the “just in case of emergency” guy simply because we don’t have other options. Liber is gone…the shark is untrusted…Cotts and Eyre both suck as much as Howry.

I look at him as a necessary evil right now.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have multiple times atoned for this...

I even have offered to bring muffins to the next fan club meeting. :)

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Shark is already trusted.

The Shark isn’t going anywhere. Did you listen to Lou in the post game, he practically said so. We have plenty of options, which I have pointed out to you again and again.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

barblett bob never came back.. so no malt for me :(

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Malt Cup!

When are you going to be at Wrigley next?

I know I bet Al as well…

Hit me up at bobkrausejr@aol.com.

by BartlettBob on Jul 27, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome that you're "paying" up

Very honorable!

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Jul 27, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

I doubt I will make it this year, but thank you. :)

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But the odds

the shark could

A.) turn into Carlos Marmol
B.) turn into Kevin Hart

If A.) happens great then we have solved our pen problem

If B.) happens then it’s sad and then we are still in search of a back up plan.

If you DFA Howry then we have no back up plan.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

have you watched the two times Jeff Spellcheck has pitched?

There’s no way he turns into Kevin Hart.

Hopefully, he turns into Kerry Wood of 2003, without the injuries.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope your right

but are you willing to bet everything on that fact and doesn’t it make sense to at least keep a back up plan around just in case we are wrong about Shark?

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

to me

Marshall is that back-up plan, not Bobby Howry.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou will never use Marshall that way

He wants guys who throw fastballs and attack the strikezone.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's already used Marshall that way

who came in after Marmol blew that game in the 9th?

Marshall.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right

And not only that, since he is a long man he was able to go 2 strong innings until we pulled out the win. And although we can’t say for sure, Howry more than likely would have handed us a loss.

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Howry

certainly wouldn’t have been able to go two.

I’m not sure I can remember the last time Howry came in and DIDN’T give up a run.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree...

...Lou likes power arms late in the game and Marshall does not fit the bill. Him being a lefty is also an issue, since most the hitters hit from the right side.

There is no way they DFA Howry, and I also don’t think they have given up on him, but as of now, the spot is Jeff S’s to lose.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jul 28, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a Notre Dame man...

and big fan of the Shark, I think we can’t get too crazy yet about him. He’s pitched four innings. The league hasn’t even worked out how to pitch him yet.

I want him to succeed as much as anyone, but let’s not get too crazy yet.

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 27, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tell that to Lou.

He was actually tickled shitless talking about Jeff in his post game PC.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 27, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought

I heard Bob or Len list the split finger pitch as one of Jeff SpellCheck’s pitches. Is that true? If so, is that wise? I thought that the split finger pitch puts a lot more stress on the arm, and leads to more injuries, then say a changeup.

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 28, 2008 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,

and I could get killed in a car wreck on the way home tonight. Life is uncertain. However, the Shark has not shown any indications since he was drafted that he will be nothing but a great ML pitcher. Howry is finished, (it hurts to type that, I’m a Howry guy), he is not a back up plan- he’s a primary RH set-up man who can no longer do his job.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with your assessment

except he’s got more upside than any other reliever on the team not named shark.

Trust me. Keep this guy around. Kick him off if the playoff roster if we get that far.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you think Bobby Howry

has a bigger upside than Marshal or Marmol?

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should have been more clear

Biggest up side for the third slot in the pen.

And yes he’s got more upside than marshall.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

I don’t see how.

But, ok.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd take Marshall over Howry ANY day

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 27, 2008 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Jeff Spellcheck

can be consistent, he’s a hell of a better setup man than Howry was even last year, much less this year.

But don’t we have room on the roster anyway? We gave four players to the As and got two back, doesn’t that leave two spots on the 25 man roster?

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know, the other 29 teams aren't blind.

Who in their right mind would take onthe money marquis is owned? I believe he is due $10 million next year!

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Jul 27, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE!

Do not use “retarded” again. Thank you.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Al

I was about to say something, but you beat me to it.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jul 27, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it is silly to DFA both of those guys right now...

...a lot of a key opponents need relief. Marquis is a NUMBER FIVE STARTER. And he has done what he is supposed to in that slot – eat up innings, and keep us in the game. Marshall gives us depth in that position if we have an injury. And Howry, although imploding, I am still not convinced DFA-ing him is a smart move, considering someone like the Brewers or Mets could pick him up (I don’t know the rules for this, however).

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Erye may never pitch for Lou ever again

but for some reason he keeps running Howry out there.

If you want to DFA anyone it would be Erye.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suspect Eyre may be gone when Wood comes back.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you might be right.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Lou

is going to go with Cotts and Marshall as the lefties in the pen? Wouldn’t that suggest that Marquis isn’t going anywhere, b/c who else would join Cotts as a lefty in the pen?

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 28, 2008 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great point about Marquis

He is an above average 5th starter. Just leave him be.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And if we DFA him, don't we have to still pay his $21 million dollar salary?

I’m convinced that the guys that (would) fill in for Marquis are necessary for depth, especially considering how some guys can and have been injured in the past or this year – Wood, Marmol’s overuse, Harden, even Zambrano. DFA-ing Marquis gives us one less guy to call up from the minors. Keep Marquis where he is, let him eat up innings for the last 58 games, and we can worry about what to do with him come playoffs.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 27, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If a player is DFA'd.

The team has 10 days to either trade him, send him down, or release him. If the Cubs can get anyone to take any of Marquis ‘09 money, he’s gone. Marquis is not needed for depth. Marmol has been “over used” b/c Howry can no longer do his job.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not $21 million.

It’s about $11 million—what’s left of this year, plus about $9m for next.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not an above average 5th starter.

Marquis is a serviceable 5th starter. However, he is resistant to coaching. Lou wants another lefty in the rotation. Additionally, the Cubs want to get out from under some of his contract. Call it retarded all you want. It is likely to happen.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou wants a lot of things

but the best place for Marquis is in the rotation.

Leave Marshall where he’s at in the pen.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Lou might go to a Harden/Marshall combo

When Harden pitches, he comes out in the fifth or sixth and Marshall goes the rest of the way (or at least tries to).

Marquis isn’t great, but he’s a fifth starter. For the most part, I think he’s pitched like one.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 27, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's pitched well for a 5th starter

and I like the harden/marshall combo idea

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently it gives a team two different looks

Harden with the right-handed heat, Marshall with the lefty curve.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 27, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How would you feel about this:

Harden goes 6, you bring in Cotts for the seventh. In the eigth, you bring in Marmol, Gaudin, or the Shark. Then you bring in Woody to close.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it mean you know

you burn the bullpen every five days. Other teams would know that too. They’d work even harder to drive up the other starters’ pitch-counts, knowing that the pen is gassed. Cotts, Marmol, Gaudin and Woody are the most used relievers. Lou doesn’t like to go to the other guys…

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's right.

I was trying to show another way besides Harden/Marshall. You can’t do Harden/Marshall every five days either. Of course on other days you have to use the bull pen in different ways. I think Lou will use the other pitchers down there when he can count on them to do their job. Eyre is a speciaity lefty, he will only get match-up work the rest of the year.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if he gets any at all.

I’d love to see Lou use the bullpen this way.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it will only be a couple of weeks...

until Lou, Hendry & Larry get the bull pen straightened out. I firmly believe that based on Lou’s past that this will happen, and Lou will be able to count on the ‘pen to do their job, and use it accordingly.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm

What about skipping every 3rd or 4th Harden start by using Sean? That way, Harden stays fresher, and you still get Marshall in?

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jul 27, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't disagree...

...and the Cubs are not going to fail to make the playoffs because of anything Marquis does or doesn’t do. If this club struggles in the last 50 games, it will be because the top 3 pitchers and pen really struggle.

The bats will be ok and will score enouph runs to win their share of games. As always, how this turns out will be dependent on how the pitching performs over 9 innings.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jul 28, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marquis had two pitches to the same guy that came within 6 inches of being long doubles

instead of home runs. Sh^t happens. He still got us through 6 innings today in spite of the fact that he couldn’t keep the ball down. With the wind blowing in, he gives up 2-3 runs max, as those same balls are likely caught.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 27, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, ok

but the wind wasn’t blowing in. It seemed like in the first half of the season, ALL of those balls that would normally be hit for doubles were going out on Marquis. Baseball is a game on inches, and Marquis always seems to come up just a bit short. We won in spite of him, not because of him.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't kid yourself though, he still stayed focused to give the team six innings

and his two long at bats, including the walk before the Soriano 3 run homer was a key to the game. He helped with his bat.

At least he kept his head in the game. That walk was a critical play that allowed Soriano to hit that homer and he wore the pitcher down with long at bats. He was one of the few hitters who had long at bats today.

At least he did something right!!

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 27, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great point!

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did.

I don’t hate Marquis, However, there is a difference between logically assessing a team’s roster and what the players bring to the table, (roster), and just taking what you get. At times, yes, Marquis pitches very well. Like vs. SF a couple of weeks ago, he was consistently ahead in the count, kept the ball down, trusted his stuff and threw strikes. Other times this year, he has just plain stunk, tried to be too fine with his pitches, didn’t pitch to contact & didn’t spot his fastball. The point is that Marquis is inconsistent.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not necessarily a Marquis supporter here, but . . .

isn’t that the definition of a fifth starter, inconsistent? I mean, many teams would love it if their fifth starter had a .500 record at the end of the season. Marquis has games where he is untouchable and then there are games like yesterday where he is average, and then there are the real stinkers.

My problem isn’t necessarily with Marquis, as frustrating as he is. My problem is that we have Marshall on our team, who could do Marquis’ job for a lot less money. I can’t say for sure that Marshall would be better than Marquis, but he couldn’t be any worse. Plus Marshall is a lefty

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 28, 2008 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked the way

Lou brings Marshall in after Harden, its a great tactic to keep opposing teams off balance if Harden has to get taken out early

"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome

by gwood on Jul 27, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There were a lot of positives to take from today

The first would be the Shark. What can you say? I said it in the game thread. He has that swagger that says “Hit this.” Marmol and the Shark will couple to setup Wood to be a very formidable 1-2 and 3.

Second, the offense. I hope Sori coming back and filling his role helps everyone come out of their funk. This team when it comes to offense is going to come around. They are too good to stay in a slump.

It was a fun, fun game to watch! And it should be a fun, fun series to watch in Milwaukee.

by jajonez77 on Jul 27, 2008 5:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

man

what a relief today’s game was. were still in 1st and the real test comes this week. onward to the brew crew.

Dear SBnation, We need our own server here at BCB seeing how its became very slow due to enormous amounts of traffic. P.S. Impeach Bud Selig!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jul 27, 2008 5:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice reverse jinx btw - it worked

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Jul 27, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but next time just let the rest of us know that and we wont think your a troll... just supersitious

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

I got the superstition part when he said “maybe that will do it.”

And it did!

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Jul 27, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank you

we needed this game bad.

Dear SBnation, We need our own server here at BCB seeing how its became very slow due to enormous amounts of traffic. P.S. Impeach Bud Selig!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jul 27, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the shark

samardzija is now tied with mariano rivera in career two innings saves. how about that!

by brian custer on Jul 27, 2008 5:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That can't be right.

Mariano Rivera has only ONE two inning save in his entire career?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No...

it’s 11 that Rivera has. They had a graphic on TBS today when talking about Gossage.

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rivera has 11

it was on today’s game. Hoffman has 7

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 27, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

Well, ten to go for the Shark.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yes...

“Must-win? No. But “important win”? Definitely”
I couldn’t agree more….it felt like this game was a tide turner.
When I saw your “must win” phrase though I wondered to myself…how many games have you posted in the game thread as “must win” this year?
Hardly any? Any at all?
Last year it seemed like there was a “must win” game every couple of weeks…..maybe this is that special season after all if they deliver the “must win” before you have to call for it….
Onwards to Milwaukee….

by kiwibob on Jul 27, 2008 6:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

are you from/in New Zealand?

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes...

I certainly am…from Auckland…but I’m just about to move to Sydney…

by kiwibob on Jul 27, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beautiful country with wonderful people

have yet to travel there. Close family friends were New Zealanders so I learned a lot about the country. Gorgeous landscape with well grounded people. Hope to get there sooner rather than later.

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 28, 2008 5:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what I want

Rich Harden to get his first win as a Cub this week.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Indeed

And we already can pencil in 10 K’s, if the trends mean anything. I look forward to Braun’s reaction to the filthiness that is Rich Harden. :)

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d rather have 6k’s and 7 1/3 innings

" I played in college, albeit a small one, but darn it I still played and you didn't, so that qualifies me as an baseball expert allowing me to complaing about the Cubs as I see fit"

by Reed's Johnson on Jul 27, 2008 6:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

" I played in college, albeit a small one, but darn it I still played and you didn't, so that qualifies me as an baseball expert allowing me to complaing about the Cubs as I see fit"

by Reed's Johnson on Jul 27, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love that movie!!

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DERREK LEE HAS A DERREK LEE BOBBLEHEAD!!!

in his locker on CSN you could see it behind him, hilarious

by Canseco's Roid Party on Jul 27, 2008 6:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

very funny!

Wouldn’t you love to have your own bobblehead on your desk? (Actually, it’s pretty easy to do)

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember hearing Torii Hunter say one time

that he liked to play MLB video games to see how he would do. I guess there are only 750 guys who will ever have that feeling.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 27, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually that would totally creep me out personally

But iI bet that is funny to see

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can try it out

here! I did it and it’s actually kinda funny.

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was incredibly funny to see... that was pretty easy

althought to actually have it made, bit creepy.

Now sending it to the a friend option…. genius I just have to decide who I want to scare LOL

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Brewers were ripe for an upset vs. the Strohs

They had just come off a very good road trip (OK, GREAT roadtrip) and an emotional 4 game sweep of the Cardinals in new Busch. They have the midweek four gamer with the Cubs and Houston came in for the middle games between those two HUGe series for the Brewers- much like Baltimore did in between the Cubs/Sox games.

So they were ripe. RIPE I say!

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (#13031 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list...)

by Zeke on Jul 27, 2008 6:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

...and due.

So “dew” they were wet!

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (#13031 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list...)

by Zeke on Jul 27, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree look below

Hopefully Brew Traib is runng out of Oat’s

April Cubs 17 – 9 Brew 14-12
May Cubs 18- 11 Brew 13- 16
June Cubs 15 – 12 Brew 16 – 10
July Cubs 11 – 11 Brew 15 – 7 to date

get 3 out of 4 and Cubs get 4 months over 500 + a 3 game lead.

I've been bleeding double blue Cubbies & NY Rangers

by parrotinct on Jul 27, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MIlwaukee

According to Milwaukee radio the Cubs should not even bother to show up tomorrow and Tuesday. Fans saying this is one thing but the professional sportscasters said this.

I agree the Brewers have the advantage tomorrow but Zambrano and Sheets are a tossup.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 27, 2008 6:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe that...

...what all the Chicago media was saying about the Marlin’s chances in games 6 and 7 in 03.

There is a reason they actually play the games.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jul 28, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is so true..................

I mentioned this last night I believe in the Brewer thread…...

That Madison sports radio yesterday morning had this thing about how the teams stack up. It was quite informative, until the guy got to the fans. Just totally ripped Cub fans. I thought funny I’ve lived in Madison going on 9 years and in the last month I’ve seen more Brewer stuff than I ever have before. For the most part they are totally arrogant about it.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to agree

listening to madison sports radio talk about the Brewers they are arrogant and take every opportunity to put down the Cubs. I actually listen to the Homer out of Milwaukee. He can be what the name says, but is more realistic and constructive with his commentary.

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's too bad... I thought they'd be classier than that.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have never

been a fan of Mike Heller. Just seems to be very arrogant and snotty. The other guy came from work on the Dan Patrick Show when it was on ESPN, so you know he has some bias.

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Point.

I shouldnt be surprised, when your a bandwagoner… random hate can make up for lack of knowledge.

Same w/ most of the Brewers fans that come here. The decent respectable ones arent going to waste their time doing that.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd just like to say something to all the Fontenot haters

Please find something heavy and beat yourself in the head with it…repeatedly.

Thank you.

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Jul 27, 2008 6:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Could you be any more of a jerk about it?

Jeebus.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 27, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Fontenot haters on this day

Everyone’s enjoying his performance. No need for bats, just raise a toast!!!

by Cajuncub on Jul 27, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could have been a much bigger jerk about it, yes

I did say “Thank you” after all

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Jul 27, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

totally uncalled for dude.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 27, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

I mean, seriously, DaBard—what is with you? BE NICE TO PEOPLE! That’s a simple request and one that will make life here much nicer.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to ask...what happened to the "fire Al" post yesterday....

and are you planning to but a country house with all the money you make from this site?

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Jul 27, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What idiot

posted “Fire Al?”

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

let it lie

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't

on a thread yesterday. Just curious.

It also pisses me off to no end that someone would possibly even think that, considering the work Al puts into this site.

I look at the other sites within our division, and they do not compare to BCB. They are sloppy, not quickly updated, and nowhere near has comprehensive and fan friendly.

From one Cub fan in the dairy state, you do a hell of a job Al!

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

Much appreciated.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i tried to...

post a response in the opposite direction that that guy went….
i think i understand why it is gone….just leave it alone i guess…i probably shouldnt have posted that

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 27, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"...You want me on this site. You need me on this site..."

Al, not sure if you went through that whole fanpost but if you did, I hope my A Few Good Men scene adaptation towards the end made you laugh. You know me – always trying to find the funny bone in every dark cloud….

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 28, 2008 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I didn't.

That thing had no business being here at all. I know you were just trying to help, but had I seen it when it went up, it would have been deleted immediately.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 28, 2008 4:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

please accept my sincerest apologies then.

I guess this is another example of the dangers of three dimensional thought being presented on a two dimensional platform. Sometimes how it was ‘intended’ isn’t much of a defense.

Please feel free to delete my above comment then and these responses if it’s better to nip it in the bud. Again, I’m really sorry and I’ll try to think more before I post next time.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 28, 2008 5:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aw shucks ballhawk

three dimensions! three dimensions! Al’s saying he would have deleted the diary “had I seen it when it went up”, not your comment. He said he knew you were trying to help.

I liked the speech and appreciated the direction you tried to steer the discussion.

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Jul 28, 2008 5:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we fired Al - - -

BCB would cease to be a self -perpetuating autocracy.
It might become an anarcho-syndicalist commune, where we would take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer week by week. :)

by slide on Jul 27, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

lol. Help! Help! I’m being oppressed!!! You all saw her oppressing me, right?

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 28, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

who was a Fontenot hater?

he’s a great off-the-bench player. Give him as many pinch-hit opportunities and spot starts as possible.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont remember much bashing of Captain Sneaky Power around here...

....although its not so sneaky anymore

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Jul 27, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, I don't think we can call him `

a Ninja anymore…

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Used to see it all the time

And you’ll see it again the first time he fails.

Fans suck that way.

But I was too harsh. Fontenot haters really shouldn’t beat themselves with something heavy.

Sticking their head in their desk drawers and slamming it once or twice should suffice.

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Jul 27, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dood

what is your problem, anyway?

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't hate, just flag...;-)

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Jul 27, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe he's doesnt realize the Cubs are in first?

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

go get a hug from someone dude

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Jul 27, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's confused with the O's... he means Theriot

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 27, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah really

The guy is been as valuable as anyone on this team. He really has been the offensive spark for July.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Jul 27, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Without

him and The Riot, Cubs would be in a bigger funk.

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HOF inductions...

just didn’t want to let today go by without saying that I hope this is the last year that there is a ceremony in Cooperstown that does not include our beloved #10.

Here’s hoping that Ron Santo can stay happy and healthy and go into Cooperstown next year with a WS ring on his finger too!

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 27, 2008 7:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1,000,000

...that would be incredible and one helll of way to go in for Ronnie!

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Jul 27, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LSA

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want

to be in Cooperstown when Ron gets in. He is simply the best!

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I felt so bad for him today.....

He made a comment on the radio about how unfortuate it was that Leo didnt make to the hall of fame until after he was gone.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im so there

I am so there when Ron gets in. Originally I was boycotting until he did but had to go for Ryno.

Luckily I have a friend who lives near there to stay with so going is not a big hit money wise.

I am going for Santo and Dawson if they get in. Maybe we’ll see both in 09!

What a way to cap off this season!

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 27, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BBTN just showed the standings in the NL Central..

..as they began a preview of this weeks series, and they had the Cubs in second place;

Milwaukee 60 44
Cubs 60 44

How do you make mistakes like that? Clowns….

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Jul 27, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe they

didn’t get the web-update?

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BBTN

has fallen for the Brewers like a high school crush.

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they were ....

... showing the standings BEFORE today’s games.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al

The general ticket request thread, or whatever it’s called, says it’s closed for posting. Can you open it, or start another thread for us?

by kanderber on Jul 27, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Will re-open comments.

Thanks for mentioning it. If comments get closed in ANY of the ticket threads, email me—I may not see a post here if it gets buried.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who came up with "Jimmy Ballgame"

for Edmonds? Where does it come from?

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 27, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe that the Cardinal fans referred to him

..as Jimmy Baseball when he was in St. Louis and I think he may have become Jimmy Ballgame somewhat sarcastically on this site early on as a Cub.

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Jul 27, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al

Will be at the 3 game set against the Bucs. like to drop by and say hello. My tickets are not in the bleachers, can I still get out to the bleachers? Haven’t been to Wrigley since 1997, so I am not sure of the logistics.
Anyways, will try to stop by.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Jul 27, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You can't get to the bleachers from the other seats.

However, if you email me your seat location I’ll try to stop by your seat before one of the games.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What to do?

Big Z vs Sheets or the Peoria game? Guess Ill be at Wrigley with the headphones on.

Im pretty excited for that game.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll be at Wrigley for the Peoria game, too.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wood

It would be good if he makes his rehab there.

Also is it going to be on TV?

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 27, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No TV.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about radio?

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Jul 27, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You'll have to check the websites of the Chiefs and Cougars.

The Cougars do have a local Chicago-area radio affiliate, so you may be able to hear it over the air. Not sure if either team streams their games.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 28, 2008 4:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most minor-league games

are streamed via milb.com, just like the major league games are.

The difference is that minor league radio broadcasts are free, although you do have to register with milb.com.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Jul 28, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aisle 14 row 9

RIGHT BEHIND THE DUGOUT. I am really excited to go.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be in the bleachers as usual.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How come I didnt see bleacher seats available?

Also—-why didnt you change it up and sit in the concourse?

You will have a chance to use the 383 sticker!

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bleachers WERE available...

... when this game first went on sale in May. They sold out pretty fast.

I thought about sitting in the box seats, but decided to go with the regular spot.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good man.

Hope it brings a Cubs W.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In former Cubs news...

EPat started in LF today for the A’s. 0-3 with 2 walks. Matt Murton was optioned to AAA.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 27, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What's wrong with Murton.

He proved that he could always hit. Ah well.

My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!

by Unique on Jul 27, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Always" hit?

He was 3-for-30 with one double for the A’s. They gave him a chance to play and he didn’t hit, so they sent him down.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was being alittle sarcastic.

But this is his worst season as a pro.

My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!

by Unique on Jul 27, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man, have to feel a little bit bad for Murton...

...I have to believe he was looking forward to some MLB playing time in Oakland. I wonder if he’s going to make it in MLB…

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Jul 27, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He got the playing time...

...he just went 3-30 when given that playing time.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 27, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and

what if they deal Street to the Cubs?

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

then the circle would be complete!

join us, Matt Murton, and we can rule baseball forever!

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Lou agrees with you.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 28, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow.

I really thought Murton would do well if he could play every day.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

9 to 6.

Wasn’t the score to the NLCS, game 7?

Payback—well not quite.

And I’m hype about Jeff Samardzija.

My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!

by Unique on Jul 27, 2008 7:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Three cheers

Three cheers for old Notre Dame
bring down the echos cheering her name
Senda volley cheer on high
Shake down the thunder from the sky

Whether the odds be great or small
Old Notre Dame will win over all
While our loyal sons are marching onward to victory!

Big time Notre Dame on my Dad’s side. It’s my 3rd favorite after my alma matter, Northwestern, my husband’s Illinois.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 27, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This FSU fan get get behind the Irish

as long as they keep producing guys like Jeff Spellcheck (love that nickname, by the way)

I can’t wait for college football, even if it means another 7-6 season…

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jul 27, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I cannot root for the Irish...

....but I can root for a Cub.

Still, I’m laying yesterday’s victory at the feet of Pat Fitzgerald, Northwestern’s football coach, College Football Hall of Famer, 7th Inning Stretch Singer, and the man who will lead NU to Pasadena (or at least someplace warm for a bowl game) this season!

Go Cats!

(As an aside, if any of you in the Chicago area enjoy college football but don’t have a team, or live too far away from your team, I HIGHLY encourage you to get Northwestern tickets. Season tickets for 7 games are just $228, and 3-game and single-game tickets are on-sale now. There isn’t a bad seat in the house, you see Big Ten football teams, and can even get there on the El. Best deal in sports in Chicago)

by Chadnudj on Jul 28, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the shark

here’s an interesting article from the local newspaper
http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080727/SPORTS13/807270378

by brian custer on Jul 27, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN gamecast had photos of the shark

and the caption said jeff samardja former “penn state wide out” what a bunch of durfs there at espn

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 27, 2008 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HA!!

Figures, for the alphabet network.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Jul 27, 2008 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The shark

How good was he really as a wide receiver?

I do recall hearing he might have gone late 1st round in the draft ironically some people were predicting the Bears would pick him.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 27, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Shark

could have easily gone to play pro FB & been a very good WR. He was excellent in college, fearless, fast & smart.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

Thanks.

I think the Bears need him too.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 27, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we need a qb

and OLine… and a proven running back.

:sigh: Could be a long winter.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can

have Favre and the yearly will he or wont he retire headache.

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Favre is overrated.

We need a QB who doesn’t turn the ball over.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

details details

:)

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And we've already got that headache

i just wish he’d go away.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and to think

the packers wanted to draft him. whew!

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

too true

I can add that to my Wisconsin disappoint sport list.

Although believe it or not I guess on of my aunts think farve is in the right. my sister called me yesterday and told me how she had to bite her tongue.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a shareholder said the other day

“He retired. Get over it!”

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing can helps the Bears Offense.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i like the bears...

but when your highlight to look forward to is your kick returner, you got problems

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 27, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

From what I remember...

low first round/early second quality. Easily a solid contributor on most teams.

by Damen Jackson on Jul 27, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huge series, its key for us to at least split against sheets/sabathia duo

Because we definetely have the edge wednesday and thursday

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on Jul 27, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Game 1 and 2

Game 1 advantage brewers game 2 is a wash,

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 27, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs

have the advantage for games 3 and 4.

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And you can take those preseries "advantages" and throw them right out the window.

Who’d have thought the Astros would take 2 of 3 from Milwaukee IN MILWAUKEE?

That’s why they play the games.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"They play to win the game"

CC should be fun to watch. LIGHT EM UP.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

Hammer is channeling Herm Edwards. LOL

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When

did this turn into a football blog?

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When the Shark became a Cub

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

also Lou seemed to be raving about the Shark

in the postgame interview.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

its hard not to rave about him

he was fabulous.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

new guy...

for the ladies to crush on, eh??

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 27, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

I still can’t get over how cute Harden is. Boy looks good in blue!

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 28, 2008 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harden is really adorable.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 28, 2008 6:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Between Harden, Shark and Geo we have a trio of boys to swoon over. :D

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 28, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

meh. gnarly hair

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 28, 2008 6:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was. He left

no doubt that they had found the arm they were looking for.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 27, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

training camp

turns me into a football head. i can’t help it.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just

not ready for it yet. and i am a diehard packer fan.

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice.

So whats going in Packerland lately? I kid I kid.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, you've been indundated w/ packer talk since march

i bet with the whole “is he really done” stuff. i don’t blame you for not being ready.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

I am actually more tired of the talk. Just play the games!

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope Aaron Rodgers has a good year

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto.

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well. I personally hope he flops

:-P

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Be nice

:)

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was.

Madison knows how much I LOVE the green bay packers.

I can’t even TYPE that w/ a straight face.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats ok....

cubbiegirl can talk all the smack she wants and it’s still all good.

She understands that my loyalty will always be split.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same here

my relatives always wondered where my parents messed up.

My dad’s side was all Braves/Brewers fans. (I even went to game 4 of the 82 World Series) My mom is from the South side, so her side is all White Sox fans.

My explanation is that when I fell in loove with baseball, the Cubs were on every day, so I became a fan. And everytime I have to listen to a johnny come lately Brewers fan, my love for the Cubs only grows stronger. :)

Go Pack!!!!!!!!

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im the only Cub fan in my family

But growing up the brewers were in the AL and Cubs NL so it didnt matter.

Had I decided to be a Bears fan…. I think my dad would have sat me down. LOL

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1 I hate football

Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou

by Emelie on Jul 28, 2008 6:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

but let’s take 3 of 4 at Wrigley Field North and be on our way into August!

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am going to the very last game of the season in MIL

I hope it is meaningless. (in a good way)

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will

be there too! Go Cubs!!!!!!!!

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

buy me a footlong brat!!!

This gives me a chance to stop at the Brat Stop and buy some cheese.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will be coming from the north

but I would love to go to Brat Stop.

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm flying up from Florida

hoping the Cubs have clinched by then, but I told my daughter we have to be there just in case it goes down to the wire.

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Jul 27, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wont be...

I learned an important lesson this year… dont let matter of the heart overwhelm your good judgement when buying baseball tickets :(

next year I will have more than one set :)

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be there

for the Sat. game and I hope it’s meaningless in a good way too.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 27, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the shark

the exalted mariano rivera has only one (1) career two inning save. same as samardzija does. you can look it up

by brian custer on Jul 27, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

As noted up the thread...

.... this isn’t correct. Rivera has 11 two inning saves, not 1.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 27, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw 11 too.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

baseball-reference.com

is way over my head. where are you seeing this??

http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/riverma01.shtml

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TBS

had a graphic on their telecast today that showed Gossage, Sutter, Rivera and Hoffman in a comparison of how closers are different today than used to be.

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh. I was blacked out on TBS

but i can’t even make heads or tails of BR.com to see if he’s right.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

that’s one of those stats they get from Stats, Inc.

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or someone hit 1 instead of 11 somehow, somewhere

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Jul 27, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

mariano rivera

Goose Gossage had 125 of his 310 career saves (40.3%) of two innings or more. Rivera has 345 of his career total of one inning or less, and only one of more than two innings. Gossage, Sutter and Dan Quisenberry actually had more two inning saves than of one inning.

by brian custer on Jul 27, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Youre wrong.

Or the numbers on the TV were wrong. Someones wrong.

Link?

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"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

brian custer is correct....

..I just did a game finder on BR for Rivera, and he has one 2 inning save in his career. Amazing.

Ironic part, it was the first save of his career on 8/23/96!

Clink the link below, then click the results button to see his saves by game, by IP

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/pgl_finder.cgi?n1=riverma01&year=#

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by JB 23 on Jul 27, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

VN

you are the man Custer

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"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only subscribers see the entire report of the Baseball-Reference Play Index (PI)

A non-subscriber sees only one game.

Rivera recorded 11 saves while pitching 2 or more innings.

Cnt Date Tm Opp GmReslt App,Dec IP
1 1996-08-14 NYY @CHW W 3-1 8-9f ,S 2
2 1996-08-23 NYY OAK W 5-3 7-9f ,S 2.1
3 1999-08-06 NYY @SEA W 11-8 8-9f ,S 2
4 2000-06-04 NYY @ATL W 7-6 8-9f ,S 2
5 2000-09-23 NYY DET W 13-8 8-9f ,S 2
6 2001-08-01 NYY TEX W 9-7 8-9f ,S 2
7 2003-06-28 NYY @NYM W 9-8 8-9f ,S 2
8 2003-07-11 NYY @TOR W 8-5 8-9f ,S 2
9 2005-07-10 NYY CLE W 9-4 8-9f ,S 2
10 2006-06-20 NYY @PHI W 9-7 8-9f ,S 2
11 2006-07-16 NYY CHW W 6-4 8-9f ,S 2

Games found: 11

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by flachimesa on Jul 27, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you!

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by Al on Jul 28, 2008 4:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems to be an error somewhere...

This article…

Says one two inning prior to 2008.

However, this article....

says he had two two inning saves in 2006.

He also has numerous two-inning postseason saves.

Seems like there is a disconnect somewhere…

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When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Jul 27, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I loved Gossage's comments on Dick Allen...

...a truly amazing player and one that was treated pretty harshly by the media and fans. The guy was incredible.

by DudeVf11 on Jul 27, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Richie Allen...

...put up numbers when they meant something and was probably one of the top 5 players in the game for a 5-7 year stretch. I know he had some quirky attitude issues, but man the guy could play.

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by MPH73 on Jul 28, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright my fellow Cub fans...

Time to get outta here. Gotta feed the girls, and get some sleep. Have a great night everybody & I’ll see ya here tomorrow for a Cubs win over the hated Brewers.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 27, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

night jimmy!

cya later!

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pet the cats for me!

Woobie misses ya…

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by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time for

ice road truckers. i will get a link on the rivera thing later. i am pretty sure i am right

by brian custer on Jul 27, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's definitely 11 games

see above

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Jul 27, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we ever get healthy this is how I see our team:

Starters:
Zambrano
Harden
Dempster
Lilly
Marquis

Pen
Closer: Woody
Set up: Marmol
Set up: Shark
Mid Set up:Gaudin
Only in an emergency: Howry
LOOGY Eyre (or Cotts)
Long relief: Marshall

Catchers
1. Soto
2. Hank White

1B
1. Lee
2. Ward

2b
1. DeRosa
2.Fontenot

ss
1. Theriot
2. Cedeno

3b
1. Ramirez

OF
1. Soriano
2. Edmonds
3. Fukudome
4. Johnson

The only up grade I would like to see would be to the pen. If we could unload and upgrade Howry and move shark and Gaudin down in the pen then I would be much more happy.

The O looks solid and unless you can get a serious upgrade over Ward. I don’t see a lot of ways to help improve the Offense.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Alright...

I gotta go. Been sitting here too long and there’s things to do to get the boys steeled for the night. Peace out!!!!!

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 27, 2008 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

bye.

:-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

GREAT NEWS GREAT NEWS GREAT NEWS

Joe Morgan in unavailable tonight.

BAD NEWS BAD NEWS BAD NEWS
Steve Phillips and Orel Hershiser are replacing him.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

why the late start tonight?

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rain

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im guessing all they did during the delay was discuss the Yanks/BoSox

Atleast the audience was interested in Yanks/Bosox. As opposed to a rain delay in like Chicago.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they actually were running baseball tonight

which I believe is a great show. On games that the Cubs have a W

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no cable

was seriously pondering getting it for a few months…. only to discover the NLCS is on Fox this year.

Happy I discovered that before I got cable or I would have been one very upset girl!!!

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't like Phillips, but I'd rather have Orel than Joe Morgan.

Steve Phillips on his computer use as Mets GM, "I played solitaire on my computer in my office."

by Tate491 on Jul 27, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed (and I am agreeing a lot here)

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"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phillips is at least tolerable.

but Orel is my favorite anaylist on ESPN. He’s a pitching nerd and he breaks it down well enough for me to get it. :-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 27, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pitching nerd. Well said.

Also in his club—Greg Maddux (I hope he becomes a pitching coach)

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"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

specifically

our pitching coach.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Jul 27, 2008 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather have rectal than Joe Morgan

...someone had to say it!!

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 27, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anybody agree with me

that now that Fontenot has become our best Left-Handed pinch-hitter there is no real reason for Ward on this team? I don’t want to be one of the many people in here who want to DFA half the team but it does make since to me to get Hoffpauir up here-he is the same type of player as Ward except young and not broken like Ward appears to be.

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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 27, 2008 8:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think with their individual skill sets

they are both a benefit to the team. Ward is so great at working at bats.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he's the best pinch hitter

depending on the situation.

If you just need a hit. He’s your guy (as long as Edmonds isn’t resting that day).

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ageed----they are both a positive for this team IMO

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't get rid of Ward

there’s room for both of them on the team.

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you guys think that David Ortiz

has a personal barber to keep the beard hes got looking good?

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 8:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well I doubt he stops in at random barber shops

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cubs should trade for Manny

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 8:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Send the Sox

Fukudome, Veal and the shark for Man Ram.

That could be fun.

LOL

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think our definitions of "fun"

are a bit different. But I appreciate the laugh. LOL

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 28, 2008 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And then the RF is ...

... Soriano?

Soriano is RF would be fun to watch.

by DrCrawdad on Jul 28, 2008 7:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's not a lot

I can say that hasn’t already been said. Today was the perfect combination of youth and verteran play. I haven’t been this excited during a game for quite a while.

I just hope they keep the momentum from this game going in Milwaukee.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 27, 2008 8:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

best poster ever

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 27, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You brighten my day.

Thank you.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 27, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was suppose to appear as a reply....

thanks Sue… had you not said that I won’t have been thinking about getting pictures posted

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to

have to get a photobucket account to load my pics in when I go to Milwaukee in Sept. Look forward to seeing your pics. Hope you get to see a win Tues. night.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 27, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never posted pics to the web w/ my sisters camera...

maybe tomorrow I should play around with that and try so Wednesday I know how to do it.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 27, 2008 8:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So after yesterday I told myself I would take a day away from the Cubs

I went to the beach, had a good time and didn’t check the score until 7pm. Figures I miss one of the better comebacks of the season.
Probably a good thing though since I saw we were down 5-0 at one point.

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by nji232 on Jul 27, 2008 9:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They are replaying it on CSN at 1:00 AM I believe

It’s worth watching from the 4th inning on…

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." ~Master Yoda

by Goodie1969 on Jul 27, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like a good night to fire up the MLB.tv replay

Also when Alfonso hit his homer, it looked like he flashed the peace sign at Dan Uggla. Was I seeing things?

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by nji232 on Jul 27, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't put it past Alfonso

See his moonwalk last year.

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by nji232 on Jul 27, 2008 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he did something

but I thought it was more of a wave/acknowledgment to the fans in RF where he hit the ball.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 28, 2008 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Missed the whole game - almost

Caught the last inning on the radio. I had a softball doubleheader (playoffs) that I couldn’t miss. But my wife and older son went – they were in section 26, row five – club box. They had a great view of all the action and had a fantastic time.

"Hey hey, kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, May 17, 1979

by danimal15 on Jul 27, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

this is nitpicky

cause i know sometimes it works to our advantage, but, why is there a basket in CF? there are no seats out there so it really isnt needed. anyone know?

of course, it didnt seem out of place when fontenot hit one into it recently, but jacobs’ first homer today clearly illustrated why that section of basket is evil and unneccessary.

good thing it didnt matter in the end.

by circuitclout on Jul 27, 2008 10:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's a good question.

When the basket was originally put in, there wasn’t a basket in CF. I can’t remember exactly when they did put it there, but it wasn’t there at least during the 1970’s.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 28, 2008 4:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't normally like to cherrypick, but

Does anyone else not understand why Lou had Edmonds bunt with no outs with DeRo and Dome coming up after him? With the way he’s been hitting lately, I really don’t understand why he’d be bunting. After Dome’s popup, that out seemed to have a good chance at taking away the comeback (and then of course Wonder Hampster hit the double and it all worked out fine, but still, that seemed like a pretty dumb move to me).

by rea5661 on Jul 27, 2008 11:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That was Jimmy Ballgames bright idea.

No way Lou tells him to do that,

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 27, 2008 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And if it'd come in from the bench

Rami would’ve been running.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 28, 2008 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

O thanks

I didn’t actually see it, so I just assumed Lou called it in. Wonder what Jimmy was thinking.

by rea5661 on Jul 28, 2008 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was thinking he hadn't gotten a hit a while and he could catch the

defense sleeping.

In all honesty if had bunted down the third base line it would have been a easy hit.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 28, 2008 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but

In his entire career (which has been pretty long) he’s succesfully sac bunted a grand total of 10 times

by rea5661 on Jul 28, 2008 2:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

in 24 sacrifice bunt attempts, 10 went for sacrifices, 3 for hits

He is also 10 for 22 (.455) when bunting for hits (not sacrificing), once with an RBI.

Most of his successful bunts for hits were to the 3B side.

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Jul 28, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's my take on the upcoming series against the Brewers,

If the Cubs split the series, that’s ok, because they will leave Milwaukee with a one game lead.

If they win 3 of 4 (4 of 4 is unrealistic) they will leave Milwaukee being in the drivers seat, and in the Brewers head.

If they lose 3 or 4 (or lose 4 straight) then they will have put themselves in a terrible hole, a hole they may never get out of. Although, making the wildcard is just as good IMO than winning the division. My only worry is that if they do lose 3 of 4, or get swept, they will lose all self-confidence and tumble all the way down to 3rd place.

So, this series will not determine the winner of the division, but it will tell us who has momentum on their side going down the stretch.

Don't blow it boys!

by Mr W on Jul 28, 2008 12:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm most interested to see

the first two games. The Cub Offense has been bad lately and I want to see how they react to two very good pitchers in a high stress situation. I think that will tell us more about what will happen down the stretch than anything else.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 28, 2008 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little hyperbole, Ken?

A “terrible hole they may never get out of”? Are you serious? It would be, what, two or three games? With 50-something games left, including six against the Brewers?

I don’t want the Cubs to lose, either, but that’s a pretty damn stupid thing to write.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 28, 2008 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gee Bruce...I think you need to take a pepto bismol

Dude was making a statement and did use the word “may.”

I thought what he had to say wasn’t rude or off key. Your response to on the other hand is a different matter all together.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 28, 2008 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A ridiculous statement deserves a ridiculous response

Not the first time he’s been the prophet of doom.

Conversely, even if the Cubs win 3 of 4 or sweep, I don’t think that puts them in the drivers’ seat, either. You saw how quickly a 5.5-game lead evaporated over the past two weeks.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 28, 2008 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was my take on the matter,

my OPINION. Opinions are opinions they aren’t dumb or smart, just opinions. That’s tthe problem with you Not Bruce, your opinion is the only one that counts – or “smart” or “realistic.” You are one arrogant prig.

Don't blow it boys!

by Mr W on Jul 28, 2008 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And in my opinion, I think your opinion is asinine

I guess it’s OK to spew any malarkey that comes into your noggin and just by saying “well, it’s my opinion,” that makes it impervious to criticism.

If you can make a logical argument that isn’t laced with emotion and patently false claims, I can respect opinions with which I don’t necessarily agree. Your post doesn’t pass the smell test, but just by saying “it’s my opinion,” you expect to get a free pass on it. Bullfeathers.

You are one goofy, sad, pathetic dude. But that’s my opinion.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 28, 2008 2:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I flagged you,

I asked Al if your juvenile and arrogant behavior was ok by him. We shall see.
Oh, and by the way this statement, “If you can make a logical argument that isn’t laced with emotion and patently false claims,” places you in the category of a know nothing. An opinion is not an argument. An argument has logical claims and backs them up with evidence. If I was making an argument that would be different, but I was not.
The only thing more pathetic than your ignorance is your ego.

Don't blow it boys!

by Mr W on Jul 28, 2008 2:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now I'm really cowering in fear

My opinion: You’re a frigging freak. Not to mention an idiot of a baseball fan.

Maybe you should work on some cogent “opinions” instead of Chicken Little-type proclamations all the time.

But like I said, that’s my opinion. And according to you, opinions are beyond criticism.

Jeez, you must be a barrel of laughs in your real life. Speaking of which, why don’t you get one?

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 28, 2008 3:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flagged!

Don't blow it boys!

by Mr W on Jul 28, 2008 3:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

All right, both of you knock it off.

This started as a reasonable exchange. But then it got personal. Stop the personal attacks. Thank you.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 28, 2008 4:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and thanks for admitting

what you post defies logic and evidence. Just as I suspected.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 28, 2008 3:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm thrilled with today's win, BUT...

I’m not with you, Al, on giving Jason Marquis any credit for “eating up innings.” Frankly, I think he needs to yank his head out of his butt and start finding some corners. Otherwise I don’t want him eating up any innings. He was plain awful today, consistently put us in positions to lose, and if history is any indication today was a preview of what we’ll be getting in the coming months.

Meanwhile, a cabal has formed insisting that Bobby Howry “must go” (even though history indicates he’ll only get better in the coming months).

I, for one, am warming to the idea of sending Marquis to the pen, DFA or trading him, and getting Marshall back in the rotation.

"I don't know what I'm talking about, and I'm pretty sure you don't either." -David Letterman to Bill O'Reilly

by hipster17 on Jul 28, 2008 12:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok DFA Marqius

Who takes marshalls spot in the pen?

Who pitches if one of our starters go down?

Who shouldn’t make DFA recommendations while angry?

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 28, 2008 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

overall marquis has been pitching well for us lately

look at his last 10 starts or so…..everyone is allowed to have bad games, not to mention he is the 5th starter…..do you really expect the cubs to have a z, harden, dempster everyday?

by cubswynn on Jul 28, 2008 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just saying...

I would feel more confident in our chances of winning with Marshall in that fifth slot than Marquis. And yes I think it’s totally reasonable to expect strong pitchers at every point of the rotation. That’s because we have the arms to warrant it this year.

In his starts since June (9 starts) he had the luxury of facing SF twice, LA and SD. Only the Nats have scored fewer runs than those teams.

"I don't know what I'm talking about, and I'm pretty sure you don't either." -David Letterman to Bill O'Reilly

by hipster17 on Jul 28, 2008 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed, but what a good problem to have

“hmm who of these two good starters should we use for our 5th rotation spot?”

Marshall will have some big spot to fill on our team some where down the stretch. Marquis’ll make everyone made and continue to keep us in games.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 28, 2008 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

More true words have not been spoken on this thread.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 28, 2008 1:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"History" says...

... that Bob Howry gets better long before August. This time, I think that flat fastball has to go.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 28, 2008 4:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, with Eyre back the lefty issue is somewhat less critical...

And don’t we want to keep the Shark anyway when Woody’s back?

I don’t have all the answers relative to DFA, or many of them even, but my point is Marquis is becoming a liability in the rotation.

"I don't know what I'm talking about, and I'm pretty sure you don't either." -David Letterman to Bill O'Reilly

by hipster17 on Jul 28, 2008 12:16 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Marquis has pitch well for a 5th starter.

He take the ball every five days and keeps the Cubs close.

In reality he only gave up 3 bad pitches today and when the wind is blowing out they = homeruns.

But he didn’t lose his cool. He kept the Marlins down for 2 of the next 3 innings which is all you can ask from a fifth stater.

Marshall makes more sense in the pen and is a good back up plan if one of our starters go out.

I wish the Brewer's an everlasting misery and pain, so naturally I put them in Milwaukee.

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 28, 2008 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guess we see things differently

The great thing about getting Harden and Gaudin is we can have great stuff across all five starters without losing the long-relief value that someone like Marshall brings. Maybe I’m in the minority, but I like our chances with Marshall starting vs. Marquis.

It would hurt not having a strong lefty available for long relief, but the benefit outweighs the cost IMO.

"I don't know what I'm talking about, and I'm pretty sure you don't either." -David Letterman to Bill O'Reilly

by hipster17 on Jul 28, 2008 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Marquis is a lifetime .500+ pitchers (.525), throwing on average 200+ innings a year, and holding his own as a 5th starter.

It seems that we, as fans, are always looking to replace Marquis, but with whom?

How quickly we forget that Marshall “stunk up the joint” by our standards in his first start (June 24 against the O’s), threw decent in a loss to the ChiSox in his 2nd start, and beat the Cards in a decent effort in his 3rd start.

No matter who the Cubs throw out as their 5th starter, they have to keep us in games and let the offense put the numbers on the board.

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Jul 28, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eyre isn't "back"...

... because Lou refuses to use him.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 28, 2008 4:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cuban news

This article from Crain’s Chicago Business quotes (anonymous, unfortunately) sources in MLB and “close to the sale” that indicate that it would be very unlikely that MLB would reject Mark Cuban as an owner for the Cubs.

I don’t know how I feel about it yet, but it certainly sounds like Mark Cuban has the best chance of being the next owner of the Cubs. They do quote one guy who has no connection to the sale or MLB saying “I think if he [Cuban] wants it, he will get it.”

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Jul 28, 2008 3:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There's nothing in that article...

... that’s new beyond what we have all heard in the last week. It’s a summary, and speculation on the writers’ part.

Cuban is high-profile. The others aren’t. My personal opinion: that’s not a good thing. I don’t want the owner to be the focus, and I believe Cuban would be if he won the bidding.

Get me someone, or a group, that does what it takes to win and sits in the background otherwise.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 28, 2008 4:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

here's the way i look at it

first of all, what are you doing up at 2:42 Al? i’m impressed…..

second of all the thing that i like about cuban is we know he will do what it takes to win. the other two bidders are too much of a mystery. will the spend the money it takes to win? maybe, maybe not. thats the part i don’t like, but cuban would be a sure thing.

i agree cuban will crave the spotlight, maybe it’ll be a good thing and the focus will be off the 100 year thing

by cubswynn on Jul 28, 2008 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I couldnt agree with you more

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 28, 2008 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure if any

of you watch CTL on CSN week nights but K.C. Johnson who covers the Bulls was on one night last week. They talked about Cuban buying the Cubs and KC was asked if it would be a good deal. He said he has been around Cuban quite a bit and that he is nothing like he was when he first bought the Mavericks. KC thought it would be great for the Cubs and their fans if Cuban bought them. Maybe Mark has learned what is and is not accepted as an owner of a sports team. Since I’m not from the Chicago area I’m not familiar with all the prospective buyers like some of you are so I have no one to compare Cuban with.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 28, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

what was new in that article is the people saying Cuban wouldn’t be blocked by MLB.

The rest is all old news, I admit.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Jul 28, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree...

...the author did have some sources saying that Cuban would have a legit chance, but we don’t know whether those sources really have the inside take on this thing.

One thing is for sure, with Zell selling the team, MLB owners will be faced with his will/desire to sell his asset to the hghest bidder, and I don’t believe they have dealt with this specific circumstance before.

This is going to get very interesting before it is over, because I doubt anyone outbids Cuban

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jul 28, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love, Love, Love the Shark Man

Mark my words… future Hall of Famer as Closer

by Cubster on Jul 28, 2008 8:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No need to mark your words

I’m sure BCB will still be here in 2035, or whatever year he is inducted (as per your prediction). Just bookmark this URL and you can point it out to everyone then.

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Jul 28, 2008 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cubs

are trying to make him a starter. He’s just relieving right now because that’s where the need is.

But you can still believe his future is in the pen. Others do.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Jul 28, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I betcha a malt cup he's not (j/k)

I like him, too. He’s exciting to watch.

BTW, yesterday was his first save as a professional. Does anyone know if he ever saved a game in college? And can he hit? I read an article yesterday that claims he’s a better CF than a pitcher (comparisons to Ankiel).

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Jul 28, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

IBB
how many times have you seen a pinch-intentional walk?

Well…. being that Daryl Ward alone had 7 IBB’s while pinch hitting last year, and he has two this year, I would say that we see it a decent amount.

by big_lowitzki on Jul 28, 2008 8:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's been done over 4000 times since 1956

Ward has been intentionally walked as PH 12 times in his career.

Gotta love Baseball-Reference.com.

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Jul 28, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pitchers

Lou has this thing about having all power pitchers in his bullpen. I think a “funky” reliever (sidearm, submarine, changeup, etc.) type would compliment the hard throwers. When we change pitchers, all of them throw basically the same type speeds. It would be nice to have a few different looks from our guys to confuse the opposition. Thoughts?

"It's a funny old world. Man's lucky if he gets out of it alive." W.C. Fields

by KedzieKid on Jul 28, 2008 9:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It will be critical that the Cubs take some pitches tonight

Sabathia throws that sweeping low slider that guys chase. While pitch count doesn’t seem to apply to Sabathia, being patient and taking some of those might lead to a mistake.

I would prefer not to see Fukudome bat against him, that’s exactly the pitch that baffles him.

by Mapmaker on Jul 28, 2008 10:24 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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