This Time It REALLY Counts: Cubs 6, Brewers 4
by Al Yellon on Jul 29, 2008 8:25 AM CDT
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PrintIf last night's 6-4 Cubs win over the Brewers had been a postseason game, it would have become legendary.
The game had so many memorable elements -- three lead changes, power galore from the Brewers, clutch pitching from Cub relievers, and a suddenly-hot Alfonso Soriano helping lead the charge with a double, homer and stolen base.
Let's get this quibble out of the way right now, then -- Soriano almost embarrassed himself in the first inning when he went into a home run trot on his deep fly ball to left, only to see it come up just short of "over the wall" and had to hustle into second base, just safe. Fortunately, he scored moments later on Derrek Lee's single.
Another moment that might have been seen as a momentum-turner had the Cubs not come back and won was 3B coach Mike Quade's ill-advised decision to send D-Lee home from second on Mark DeRosa's single in the sixth with the Cubs up 2-0 and only one out. Lee, still apparently slowed from having fouled a ball off his knee a couple of innings earlier, was thrown out easily. I started to have a "Wavin' Wendell" flashback. And when J. J. Hardy and Ryan Braun homered in the last of the sixth off Ted Lilly (just about the only things Lilly did wrong last night) to tie the game, all of us had visions of the power-laden Brewers running away with the game.
But darned if it didn't happen. The Cubs got a break in the 7th when Rickie Weeks threw away a DP relay throw (on yet another Lee grounder that could have been an inning-ending DP); credit to Reed Johnson for an excellent slide that broke up the DP. An earned run scored on the FC, and another one on the error, giving the Cubs the lead back.
Which was promptly coughed up by Bob Howry, allowing a pinch-HR to Russell Branyan.
OK, so I'm not going to yell "DFA Howry!!" here. But I seriously wonder why Lou keeps putting him in these situations, when he hasn't proven he can handle lower-pressure affairs like the game in Arizona last week, and especially considering Howry's flat fastball (CSN's pitch speed meter had that one at 90 MPH) is like raw meat to a hungry power hitter like Branyan. Once again, Scott Eyre sat gathering mold in the bullpen last night. It appears Eyre's on the trading block, possibly to the Rays, Red Sox or Tigers.
You could, I am sure, feel the tension through your TV, if you were watching -- I did -- as Chad Gaudin struck out the side in the 8th inning, and then as the Cubs put together their winning rally, helped out by two key walks to Soriano and the Wonder Hamster, and then D-Lee's double slicing down the RF line, to cheers just as loud from the large Cub fan contingent at Miller Park last night -- they set a record with their 8th consecutive sellout, and of course expect to sell out the rest of the series.
Carlos Marmol looked fine last night in closing, even when he had apparently struck Gabe Kapler out to end the game, only to be forced to throw one more pitch when the umpires ruled that Geovany Soto didn't catch a pitch swung at by Kapler. That was the ruling, right? Why couldn't Soto have just tagged Kapler out? Doug Eddings, the umpire who A. J. Pierzynski snookered in the 2005 ALCS, was the 3B umpire last night. With a chance for redemption, he did nothing. Anyway, all ended well when Kapler flied to left.
Whew! What a night, and that's just the first of four, with playoff intensity, and the Cubs made a huge statement by defeating CC Sabathia. If Carlos Zambrano -- who has pitched very well in his career in Milwaukee -- can win tonight, the pitching matchups tilt into the Cubs' favor starting on Wednesday night -- I can't wait to get up there!
Final note: thanks to BCB reader Hammer, who noticed something that nobody else did -- not the rest of us, nor the players, nor the official scorer -- the umpires called a balk on Ted Lilly when Lilly had apparently picked Rickie Weeks off second base in the third inning, clearly visible when he replayed the play. The official scorer credited Weeks with a stolen base. In the end, it didn't matter, because Lilly got Hardy and Braun to end the inning with no runs scoring.
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Top Jimmy he's the one...
mornin’ daver!
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Goodie1969 says that is my new theme song....
I like it.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Great game and great win last night
I’m starting to think we need to be more selective when sending Derrek Lee to try and score.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
That was a bad send by Quade.
Especially after D. Lee fouled a ball off his shin pretty hard.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree...
...Quade has been shaky at best with his judgments over at 3rd base. Also, when Lee hit his double, Fontenot could have scored on that play, but Quade was overly conservative on that one.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
I dont like 3rd base coaches
They always make me question their calls
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions
not an easy job to judge all the factors in less than a second
and then the unpredictability of judging the accuracy of the throw and predict a hop…not like playing fantasy baseball or computer games.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
You shouldn't have to judge the throw and hop...
You should assume that it will be a good throw. Based on location of the ball when the player is approaching 3B, you should be able to reasonably judge these things. You should never send a guy under the assumption that the throw will be bad. If you’re sending the guy, you should be sending him assuming he’ll beat even a good throw. I’d always rather a more conservative 3B coach than one who gets guys regularly thrown out at the plate.
Well said...
...and the timing of it (being aggressive was also bad). If it is late in the game and you may not have another shot to score, go ahead and give it a go, but not in the middle of a game with a guy on a bum leg.
The change in momentum after that inning was palpable, and was (in my opinion) the driving force in the Brewers being pumped and scoring 3 to take the lead.
Being a 3rd base coach is a difficult job and it takes a very alert guy who also prepares before hand. I am sure Quade prepares and does his best, but he has had some bad decisions so far this year.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Would Quade necessarily...
...have known that Lee was running that badly? It’d been a few innings since he’d fouled that ball off his knee, giving the knee time to swell a bit, and Lee hadn’t really run in the time between the foul and his attempted score… Maybe Quade sent him figuring that he was running normally?
I listened to that play on the radio…just kind of cracked me up because Pat said “Lee’s rounding third!” “Here’s the throw….” “Kendal catches it on a bounce…” “and Lee is out! It wasn’t a close play…”
I’ve never experienced radio in slow motion like that before, so I knew Lee must have been really gimpy >8)
by Shawon O Meter on Jul 29, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
That was supposed...
...to read:
"Lee’s rounding third!" (Pause)
"Here’s the throw…." (Paause)
"Kendal catches it on a bounce…" (Paaause)
"and Lee is out! It wasn’t a close play…"
I’ve got that bad habit of posting with angled brackets…
by Shawon O Meter on Jul 29, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
If Quade was paying attention...
...I can’t see how he couldn’t have known Lee wasn’t running well.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Even if he was running well
He wouldn’t have scored on that play. It was hit way too hard.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
Isn't there a rule of thumb
that if the ball gets to the outfielder before the runner gets to third you hold him? Quade violated that one when he sent Lee
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
Okay, all fair enough...
Like I mentioned, I wasn’t able to see the play, only able to try to decipher how things went down from Pat’s call…
by Shawon O Meter on Jul 29, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
You're talking about a guy who put on the break hard sign to DeRosa
on a ground rule double… nearly causing a torn ACL.
Quade blows.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
It looked like Fontenot would have been out easily
but the throw home was terrible and Kendall fielded it and bobbled it about 20 feet up the line.
If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.
I dunno...
...I thought if LBR had kept running all out, he would have beaten the throw.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Quade's not doing his job
if he doesn’t know how every Cub is running, even from at bat to at bat.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
the reason the DLee send was so bad is he has to know that he has TheRiot coming up
and TheRiot has been a good contact hitter. A 3B coach has to know those things. Just a bad send with a guy running on a sore knee. Period.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
I was at the game last night - Lee looked like he was running in quick sand rounding third...
I heart the riot. (www.riotshirts.com)
by RIOTSHIRTS.com on Jul 29, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Marmol had a swagger on the mound last night...
...I havent seen since early June. You could see the confidence in his eyes and his fastball was awesome!
Welcome back Carlos, we all missed you. You couldnt have picked a better time to get your mojo back!
"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08
It was really great
to see that Marmol had confidence in his fastball in this outing. If he starts getting that over for strikes again, like he was last night, we are witnessing the return of White Castle.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
Marmol's fastball
Yes, that was nice to see, especially since he wasn’t getting any strikes called on the corners.
by John Q Freejazz on Jul 29, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Very nice to see...
The folks at Brew Crew Ball (and Cub opponents for the past month or so) were kind of licking their chops at the concept of Marmol coming in for the 9th…glad to see they might not feel the same way next time.
by Shawon O Meter on Jul 29, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
back in action
the mark of a pro… to go through that painful slump and then come back when he’s most needed.
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
I have a slightly different impression...
....I think Marmol’s swagger was a result of Soto doing something I haven’t seen him do lately—namely, get the ball back quickly to Marmol.
It seems to me that Marmol wants to work fast, and also that he’s a pitcher who does his best when he’s not “in his head.” Soto firing the ball back to Marmol last night for the first two batters almost immediately after the pitch (and sometimes as the umpire was still making the call) kept Marmol in rhythm for awhile.
But when Soto started holding the ball on some admittedly close calls (presumably to give the ump a chance to change the call), it seemed to throw Marmol off a litlte bit (maybe because Marmol got up in his own head).
So, the lesson? Throw Marmol the damn ball, Soto!
(Al – P.S. that Kapler supposed strike 3 was actually a foul ball. If Soto had caught it, as a foul tip, Kapler would have been out on a foul tip strikeout. However, it hit the ground, so it was a dead ball foul ball. The umpire got that call right.)
I noticed this, too!
When Marmol started rocking in the ninth, Soto was throwing laser beams back to him. Very cool.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
thanks guys
i am back to being a gangster.
have no worries.
no more HRs allowed. no more get me over sliders.
just the tailing goodness that you know and love!
my stuff is filthy
by carlos marmol on Jul 29, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Nice job on the first AB in the 9th, Carlos
I loved the 6 straight low-and-away fastballs, then the slider that Hall swung at. I think Hall doesn’t swing at the slider if you showed it early in the count.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jul 29, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Kapler's non-strikeout
Apparently it was fouled, and when the ball hits the ground on a foul ball it is a dead ball, so Soto couldn’t have tagged him out. I was listening to the game on the MLB feed, and Santo’s head nearly exploded.
"Don't worry, Joey. We'll go next year. They're in the World Series all the time" ---My grandfather to my sick father, October 10, 1945
That makes more sense.
Obviously, it couldn’t end on a foul if dropped. I thought Kapler had swung and missed.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
The replays showed a foul ball.
Kapler fouled it right into the ground. It hopped up into Geo’s glove and he did a good job trying to sell it, but the ball was clearly fouled. The umpires made the right call there.
As for the umpires, they had a lot of close plays last night. It appeared they got most of them right. A couple were so close that even the replays were inconclusive. The strike zone was tight but pretty consistent for the most part.
Despite what I thought of as a good showing by the umpires, the Brewers commentary could not quit talking about how the Cubs were getting every call. I really hope EI has either both broadcasts or only Len and Bob tonight. Last night was tough to listen to up to the very end when they were talking about Marmol having good stuff but questioning when his arm is going to fall off. I thought that was in pretty poor taste. Oh well.
A good win for the team. Hopefully, Z can show his new found complacency on the mound tonight and give a good performance. For all of you in Milwaukee last night keep it up. The Cubbies in the crowd were loud.
Tonight's game is on WGN.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
YEAH!!!!!!!!
and then wed. is on ESPN, so I get to watch the next two, can’t wait!!
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
3
Thursday on WGN.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
I know,
I can’t watch day games, I have to be at work, BOOOO!
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
I hate how they put a lot of the day games on WGN
And the night games on CSN. I understand their reasons, but it sucks since I don’t get CSN and work during the day.
by dr stabbingworth on Jul 29, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I hate FSN WI
Living in Madison, I’m usually forced to watch Cubs games and listen to the horrendous Brian Anderson. I’ll settle for WGN low-def over hearing his annoying calls. Last night he kept saying “A-ram-is Ramirez”. God, I hate that.
by cubbie-swagger on Jul 29, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
They make stuff up too. Saying CC was staring down Sori on his homerun as they put it “cadillac’d it out of the box”. Ok, I know Sori watches his shots but Braun is at fault for this too and they defend him.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
they kept calling it the I-94 series.
a nickname I think they hope will pick up
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 29, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Whenever I go beyond the Cheddar Curtain
and we pass that store, I go
MAAAARS CHEEEEESE CAAAAAAAAASTLEEEEE!!!!
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I always have to remark upon it as well.
My wife and I actually stopped there once, and they have some pretty nice gourmet food stuff.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
I see your Mars Cheese Castle and...
...raise you one Bong Recreation Area!
by Shawon O Meter on Jul 29, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
HA
Thats my living room thats its directing you too
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Your living room...
...has its own exit?!
Impressive…
by Shawon O Meter on Jul 29, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
NOT Exit 420?
They missed an easy one there.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I've stayed there...
...it is near East Troy, Wisconsin, which is where Alpine Valley is located. I’ll be there next weekend for the annual two-day Dave Matthews Band concert; Dave says just about every year this is his favorite place to play. It will be my 19th and 20th concert.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Nice...
I’m “only” up to 4 shows (and one Dave/Tim gig), myself.
Have fun!
by Shawon O Meter on Jul 29, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Alpine is the best!
My fave show there was The Who in ‘89. First time they performed Tommy in its entirety since ‘69. Awsome performance. I was sitting at the front of the hill facing the stage and when Entwhistle would do his amazing bass notes my chest would pound from the repercussion.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Three words that seem
incredibly incongruous next to each of the others, yet, so familar and comforting on any northbound road trip.
What about the Fatman Inn? The El Rancho Motel? Bong State Recreation Area? Those I think are on Highway 41 rather than the interstate, but I like to take that road sometimes too. They could call it the Grenn Bay Trail Series or the Milwaukee Plank Road series too, if only the Brewers had been around another 80 years or so.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
I went to college in Appleton, WI
and would drive home to Chicago frequently and always loved the sight of the Mars Cheese Castle. It always let me know I was getting close to home.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
Ah, yes.
The Bong State Recreation Area. I can’t help but wonder how many stoners have risked their young lives to stop and get their picture taken next to that sign. I know I always wanted to.
Another favorite I-94 site of mine is that stretch with all the adult book stores. I call it “Porn Row.”
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Grew up in Kenosha and...
back when The Greatfull Dead played concerts at Alpine Valley the scene around Bong was quite a sight for and impressionable youth. That campground rocked on those weekends.
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson
What a long strange trip it's been!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 29, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Memories of Alpine Valley
1) AC/DC Fly on the Wall
2) Def Leppard Hysteria
What a great time to be alive….!
"ROUS's? Rodents of Unusual Size. Don't worry, they don't exist."
http://margaritagirl11.spaces.live.com/
I believe so.
Perhaps “Final Countdown” is an appropriate song to herald as this season progresses…..
"ROUS's? Rodents of Unusual Size. Don't worry, they don't exist."
http://margaritagirl11.spaces.live.com/
Yep, I was there.
...in the front row actually. My friend and I bought tickets from a scalper. Funny thing was, we didn’t know they were front row seats when we bought them. They certainly weren’t priced that way.
Anyway, my lasting my memory from that show was at the very end, when the five members of Def Lep were taking their bows. Rick Allen started walking toward me, high-fiving people. I knew if I stuck my arm up, I’d have a chance to high-five him.
But then it occurred to me, “Oh my God, I’m about to high-five Rick Allen’s one remaining arm.” And I completely freaked out and shrunk back into the crowd.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Mike, you went to Tremper, right?
I think we talked about this before IIRC
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 29, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
El Rancho Motel
is seen in “Planes, Trains, and Automobiles” – I think it’s the place John Candy and Steve Martin check into after their car interior has been burned out. IIRC in the movie it’s supposed to be between St Louis and Chicago.
It’s actually in Gurnee (IL), just north of Fatman’s on US-41.
calling it the I-94 series
They are definately trying to have that catch on. I was purchasing a racing sausage before the game and the vendor suggested a cap with I-94 series along with two team logos on it. I passed and bought the Polish Racing Sausage. That was quite a game too!
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"--The Brain
During that stretch there was also something
like “a lot of those cubs are like that”.
Which was even more lame when you remember Braun admiring his go ahead HR in STL last week. Now that was cadillacin’
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I wish Charter carried WGN in Hi-DEF
Wrigley is beautiful in HD
I don’t mind Anderson as much as Bill Schroeder. He is painful to listen to. Of course, they are both a pleasure compared to Daron Sutton’s Chip Carey impersonations and Jim Powell’s homerism. Powell was noticeably giddy when reporting that the Cubs had Soriano AND Zambrano on the DL earlier this year. I thought that was unnecessary. Oh well, I guess it comes with the territory of being a Cub fan.
Schroeder resorts to whining a lot...
Last night he was saying that all the close plays went to the Cubs on the base paths. I thought the umps did a fine job last night. I also thought it was funny when they showed the shot of Braun talking to Branyan and Schroeder was adamant that he was talking to him about how he kept his shoulder in to hit that homerun. “That’s what he is saying to Russell.” OK, Bill unless you can read lips real well you have NO idea what they are talking about.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
It was totally ridiculous, too
because they would say all the calls were going the Cubs way while conceding the umps got the calls right. So it was like the weirdest complaint ever
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
Glad they are WGN tonight and ESPN tomorrow and GN again on Thursday
so I don’t have to listen to them… Although they did win while on FSN so if they get off to a bad start my superstition may take me back to those goons.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
Schroeder
Yes, he’s the one I meant – what a tool. I don’t mind the bias, that comes with the territory. But don’t make stuff up and stop whining about all the calls going the Cubs’ way. There were a lot of close calls, but they were all called right. Props to the officials last night.
by cubbie-swagger on Jul 29, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I like the blonde sportscaster...
Who is she?
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 29, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
bump
I think you like most of the female sportscasters “rolling my eyes”
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 29, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...
It’s a nice change of pace from Len and Bob…:)
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
that's because this umpiring team
= no Drake.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
It was dropped...
It was a foul tip that hit the ground and then went into Soto’s glove.
The replays were very clear, and ti was the right call.
visit the mindful mission
by big_lowitzki on Jul 29, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Yup, I knew it from the second it happened...
...and when the Cubs started acting like the game was over, I was like, “Oh, man. If they get away with this, we’re going to be hearing it from Brewers fans for years.” I’m kinda glad Marmol got the legit third out.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Marmol looked good
Marmol and Soriano look to be back. We need those guys. Glad to see D-Lee come through in the clutch (I know he hit another DP ball). Lilly stayed tough. Good game.
Howry should no better than to throw that pitch to Russell.
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
I was surprised Lou let Howry face Branyan.
I thought for sure he would have brought in Cotts. Especially the way Bob has been lately.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
I'm confused about the foul ball confusion
He fouled the ball into the dirts, Soto didn’t catch it…..why would he be able to tag him out? If he swings and misses, then Soto can tag him.
That's what I thought happened...
... that he did swing and miss.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
The strikeout that wasn't
I beleive Kapler foul-tipped it and geo didn’t catch the foul tip
C.C.+Feilder+Gagne=The brewers just ran out of XXXL Jerseys
Hit Gorund
He foul tipped it straight down into the ground and bounced directly up into Soto’s glove. Soto almost sold it.
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
Yes, according to the replay
the umpires made the right call. And to be totally honest, I felt that the umpires actually called last nights game very well. I don’t think they made in big mistakes.
There was one play at first...
I think it was Theriot. Looked like he was safe, but he was called out. I didn’t see the replay though. Anyone else think he was safe?
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 29, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Replay showed he was out...
by a half step. Really close though.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
Soto couldn't tag out Kapler because the batter fouled the ball into the ground.
That was the ump’s ruling and the replays backed him out, at least those shown on the Brewers’ broadcast I was watching last night on EI.
Same on the Cubs broadcast. Replays clearly showed the ball one hopped into Soto’s glove. The umps got this one right.
Thanks to all of you.
It wasn’t clear to me that Kapler had fouled the ball… at first, it looked like he had swung and missed.
Anyway… all’s well that ends well, right?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Yup!
Except poor Ronnie on the radio – I really was worried about him for a second there. He’s right – it’s never easy with these guys. How about a nice 11-0 win every now and then, just for a giggle?
"Don't worry, Joey. We'll go next year. They're in the World Series all the time" ---My grandfather to my sick father, October 10, 1945
Boy, no kidding.
A blowout would be REALLY nice. Would help everyone relax.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Oh, No!
I heard Santo say that loud and clear through the static on a radio at home when D-Lee hit that almost double play ground ball in the 7th. I sure was glad to hear Weeks threw the ball away and that the Cubs had taken the lead. “Oh, no!” is never something I like to hear come out of Ronnie’s mouth. Things turned out okay in this case.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
The game last night
certainly had a playoff feel to it. RJ said in a post game interview that while stretching before the game themany Cub fans there cheered the players and the Brewer fans booed them.
After watching Soriano’s first hit again he’s lucky he even made it to 2nd base. I wish he would stop that stupid posing.
It will seem like years before game time tonight. Hope they continue to add to their 2 game winning streak. Man this is exciting stuff guys.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
Got that sense also listening to WGN Radio last night
with the crowd noise in the background, the excitement in Pat Hughes commentary and Santo going nuts from time to time.
I can only
imagine how Santo sounded. I get a kick out of him.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
It was fabulous!
I had to rush to work and get the gameday audio going and pat and Ron were both about to stroke out. I was just paging out a 911 call when the crowd went wild when DLee came through. The second i let go of the button, I yelled oh yeah! Glad I was by myself last night.
"That guy is a gamer." said Ron Santo of Reed Johnson on 07-25-08
by love the ivy on Jul 29, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
The umps
Everybody likes to bash them when they miss a call but they had a good game last night. Looks like they got the calls right last night, the Kapler foul and the close plays at 1st.
Quade's send
was awful. I knew he was out before the throw came out of Cameron’s hand.
That said, it was great being at the game last night. Brewers fans are a good bunch, with a few giving me a good ribbing after the back-to-back homeruns.
It is SO WEIRD to go to a game where the home fans feel like they have to out-shout the visiting fans in order to not be drowned out by them.
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
hindsight is 20/20
yes it was a bad call by come-around quade, but i suspect he didn’t realize how much dlee was hurting…..they way dlee was running, i thought he seriously hurt himself…...glad it’s nothing “serious” but i bet his shin is sore this morning….yikes
Yes, but...
....Mike Cameron has a pretty fair to good arm, the ball was pretty shallow, and you had Theriot up next, as I recall—to me, strategically, with one out, you don’t send DLee with all those factors.
But, Quade has made many good calls on sending guys this season and last, so I suppose I should just shut up and enjoy the win!
valid points
i can’t help but feel for 3rd bases coaches, they rarely get the credit they deserve for good calls and get all the blame on bad ones
It's been happening lately though
2 in the Marlins series and one last night. When these one hoppers are shot out to the outfield Quade’s gotta know the guy on 3rd has a bleak chance.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
"Come-Around-Quade"
Haha…I like that…
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 29, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
OK, but
As long as it’s not “reach-around Quade”
by dr stabbingworth on Jul 29, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
D Lee is not that fast
anymore!
He does not steal, he does not beat out weak grounders, and he cannot score from 2nd on a shallow single anywhere. Dont send him again Quade.
Seriously though, he looks sluggish when he runs, maybe cuz he’s such a big dude. When Prince was coming around 3rd he had all kinds of motion going. He even had his hands a certain way, maybe to make himself more aerodynamic or something, looked like he was running the 100 meters in the olympics. It was priceless to see.
Go ahead, Z me.
I'm sorry, I just cannot picture
Prince running the 100 in the Olympics. That picture is just too funny for me.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 29, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I think you're forgetting one thing...
There was a double cheeseburger and fries on home plate. I think the MLB needs to look into this… that’s gotta be breaking some kind of rule.
I noticed lots and lots of jiggling
Perhaps he needs a Bro or a Mansserie?
by salparadise23 on Jul 29, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
AHA! I finally figured out why I recognized your name "salparadise"
I just read On The Road by Kerouac and wrote a 15 page thesis paper on it
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Correct
You win a driving lesson from Dean Moriarty.
by salparadise23 on Jul 29, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes
I did notice some flip-floppage. He may want to go with a full body cast instead
Go ahead, Z me.
What confuses me is...
...why you’re all looking that closely at Prince Fielder.
Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.
if something that big is running
you watch it. Don’t want to get stepped on.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Howry
why was Howry throwing a low fastball to a guy that can only hit low fastballs? Howry was pitching an effective inning and then just had a mental breakdown? That seems to be all it could be because it wasn’t a terrible pitch, if throw at a different time, but to Branyon, it was a terrible pitch. Howry had two strikes on him, all he needed to do was elevate the fastball a little and Branyon is more likely to have swung through the pitch.
Other than that, Lilly put up another gutsy performance. He really came through when the team needed him to pitch a good game. The bullpen looks good again (minus above) and will likely be dominant again once Wood gets back and the rest of the guys can return to their respective roles.
This is going to be a fun series and a fun second half to the season.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
And it wasn't much of a fastball either, at 90 MPH.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
very true
my biggest problem was with the location.
It looked like Howry threw it right where Soto was set up. Does Soto general choose the pitch location, as well? If so, maybe he needed to watch a little more film of Branyon as well.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
Location Location Location
I was curious about that, too…I wonder if Soto wanted it in the dirt?
"They say the big possums come out late." H. Caray
Nothing wrong with 90mph...
...if it has movement and good location, which that one didn’t.
The fact that Howry throws 90% fastballs (all between 91-94) makes it more difficult for him to be effective because the hitters can time him better. In the past, he has had exceptional location and that has allowed him to have success. Recently, he has lost that command and his fastball has flattened out. For him, this equals – getting hit hard.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
It's all because he didn't...
...take the Howry Cow shirt!!
by Shawon O Meter on Jul 29, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Wouldn't that make SWL
the Lady in the Lake (shudders slightly) ;)
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
We have THREE lefties in the pen
in Marshall, Cotts and Eyre. Why not bring one of them in in that situation? In 14 ABs this year against lefties, he doesn’t have a hit.
I know Howry has to execute and all that, and his lack of velocity is troublesome, but why no lefty?
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jul 29, 2008 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I chalk it up to a brain fart on Lou's part.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 29, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I wrote this up above...
No way Howry should have been facing Branyan. He has 2 fresh lefties in Cotts and Eyre and didn’t play the matchup. Bobby isn’t the Bobby of old. Lou needs to come to grips with this.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
And Lou isn't the Lou of old either..
still love em, but he’s had a few senior moments this year.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 29, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Take the HR out of Howry and you’re left with either “ow-y!” or “Ow! Y?!”
usually my response to him getting the call from the pen
"Look at it this way: If you're a Cubs fan, the Greatest Day of Your Life is yet to come." ~ Cubs Forever
by IvyOnTheWall on Jul 29, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Lilly last 3 games
6 inn twice, 7 inn once, 7 ER total…... His ERA has remained unchanged in all 3 games @ 4.49. Don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like that.
Go ahead, Z me.
Anyone notice...
The classless move by the Brewer fans last night, when they CHEERED the foul ball off D Lee’s leg?
Complete classless.
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
I sat next to a guy who literally started screaming with delight
when this happened. It was sick.
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
by SouthsideCub on Jul 29, 2008 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions
I heard them cheering
Prince had some class in him when he tried to get Soriano off the bag on a pickoff throw. Just kept swiping his glove at Soriano’s leg even after he was on the base.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
That's an old baseball tactic
Hard tags at 1st especially if the pitcher throws over numerous times. No problem with that.
Yeah, that's part of baseball...
along with hard slides at 2B, bowling over the catcher at the plate, brushback pitches, etc. No problem there.
Wasn't just one hard tag
He kept swiping at his feet, just looked real dumb
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
he was just playing -- no issue with that
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 29, 2008 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Well then hopefully Lee will do it back to Prince.
Since I think one nudge in any direction could knock him over.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
Knocking over someone that large would take more than a "nudge".
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Or tilt the field.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 29, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Watching him score
an Hart’s double was worth giving up the run, but only because we won the game. I wouldn’t feel this way otherwise.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
Kind of like a runawa cement truck.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 29, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Makes me even happier that Lee cut that throw off
Fielder would have killed Soto. That play would have been close.
You wonder if Lee considered that at all, and cut the throw off to save his catcher.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
Did we forget when Soto owned him earlier at home plate this year?
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
I don't think you want to be
taking blows from a runaway Prince on a regular basis.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 29, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Ask Yovani Gallardo how that works out
by dr stabbingworth on Jul 29, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
ha ha ha
Good to see the humor vibes..this morning
Humor..
did you see the last game thread when someone asked, “PLEASE tell me, how did it end”? All the funny responses had me rolling on the floor.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 29, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
He would have put Soto in the third row of the stands. The
last thing we need to do now is lose our starting catcher.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 29, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Or given him a concussion
like the one McCann suffered, and McCann was only hit by the Flyin Hawaiin, who is half the size of Fielder.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
Dude has TWO inside-the-park HR...
Ridiculous for a man that size.
just speaks to the goofy groundrules
of a lot of the stadiums in the bigs. half the time its only b/c no one knows if the ball is in play or not.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
All he has to do is say...
“look…a there’s a hotdog!”
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
Somebody commented that Fielder's at-bats are sponsored by McDonalds...
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
That's A Lot of McSalads
Isn’t he a vegetarian? Can’t be ovo-lacto ‘cause you can’t maintain girth like that without the dairy…
Dude must’ve bought the Mars Cheese Castle’s owners a yacht this year.
"They say the big possums come out late." H. Caray
Not a shining moment, no...
At first I was assuming it was for getting the strike, but the continued cheering made it clear it was due to the injury.
So true...
A satisfying win. Let’s get the next three too please!
Yep. Pathetic.
I really didn’t expect that from them…surprising…
by Shawon O Meter on Jul 29, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes
I noticed and I was outraged. It was disgusting. Cardinal fans wouldn’t have done that.
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh Timmers on Jul 29, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking that
The Cards fans would’ve appreciated the game for what it was, just a well played exciting game. And they would’ve been annoyed by the outcome, but they’re baseball fans first.
I like having them as our rivals. The Brewers haven’t reached “rivalry” status w/ me yet.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Series with the Brewers...
...these past two years seem more in line with a Cubs/Sox series than a Cubs/Cards series…a lot more anger flowing in both directions than real baseball appreciation and respect…
by Shawon O Meter on Jul 29, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, agreed.
When I think of our main rival it’s ALWAYS the Cards, situationally like the Brew Crew or Astros or something, but only if they’re in contention and we are as well.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
I dont know how many
of you had to watch it on the brewers feed last night. I dont know who there color guy is but this guy complained on every call.
When cedeno stoled third this guy was crying about the cubs getting every close call. When the replay showed that he was safe, he started saying how he just did not understand that even though the umps had gotten every call correct the cubs keep getting the close calls. If only their players would worry so much about the umps.
three things i noticed that really caught my eye -
Reed Johnson break up slide – that coud really be a momentum changer for this series
Aram – hustling in the second to beat the throw (which was not that tough) but it was good to see him hustle
why did we not send Fonty home in the 9th, he would have made that one doing cartwheels
Also, dome looks completely lost at the plate, this guy has both feet moving and swinging. It starting to look like the league has this guy figured out
Let go cubs
Yep, I really can't stand the Brewers announcers...
...why, oh why, couldn’t we get the away feed for this game…not like its a big series or anything…
I guess it was more important to have Red Sox at Angels on THREE networks (home, away and ESPN).
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
I did
I thought they did a decent job. They are Milwaukee based so they will favor the Brewers. They gave Lilly his props throughout the game.
they were very fair in regards
to our players and our guys hustle. But they whined about every close play and every check swing it was getting a little old
Let go cubs
They reminded me of the Deadbird announcers.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 29, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Completely agree
They kept complaining about every close call. It was getting really old. They could not let the Weeks ground out to start the sixth go.
My roommate is a Braves fan and we have EI. He couldnt get over how obnoxious the two were and he is impartial. That’s when I knew they were pretty bad.
My problem wasn't the complaining
it was the fact they were complaining about plays and then in the next sentence were like “oh, but the ump got it right, still don’t know how the Cubs get all the calls though.” Um. Duh. Because the calls are actually going our way. It isn’t rocket science.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
I watch them quite a bit on EI...
...and they do this against other teams in the Central…
They are really over the top homers.
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
I'd listen to Brewer announcer any day of the week as opposed to Sunday night baseball crew
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 29, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
that was a hell
of a slide by Reed.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Good hard-nosed play. Scrappy would be proud.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 29, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
sure
cept LBR or Riot woulda just bounced off. :D
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Play of the game, in many regards.
I almost fell off the couch when Weeks threw the ball away. I was all set to mourn another DLee GIDP and RJ saved the day. That guy gets it done in so many ways.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
gotta love reed
he does the little things.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
He really has
had some fantastic plays this season. I really like him a lot.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
he learned how to take a roll and hit from his Motorcycle-Riding days...
-still not sure if I want him to grow that Fu Manchu back
"Look at it this way: If you're a Cubs fan, the Greatest Day of Your Life is yet to come." ~ Cubs Forever
by IvyOnTheWall on Jul 29, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah he’s hit a lot better since shaving it off
"Look at it this way: If you're a Cubs fan, the Greatest Day of Your Life is yet to come." ~ Cubs Forever
by IvyOnTheWall on Jul 29, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
USDA confirms it was 100% Grade A Scrap
"That guy is a gamer." said Ron Santo of Reed Johnson on 07-25-08
by love the ivy on Jul 29, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I have only two words in two minutes left of break time in the internet cafe at work ..
BENCH HOWRY
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
No you dont BENCH HIM...
You get him to stay ahead of hitters and use his off speed more.
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
Needs to come inside more
Away, away, away… will get you in trouble with full counts… then the hitter can feast, feast, feast
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
FWIW...
Howry is using his slider about twice as often this year as he did last.
by John Q Freejazz on Jul 29, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
everytime
howry pitches i go and follow it on the internet, i cant watch him pitch. Is his slider breaking or just spinning.
If its spinning all he is doing is speeding up the hitters bat
Let go cubs
+1
Plus all the diddling with the glove between pitches is sooooo boring. I am sure his defenders get lax.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
I think...
...that’s more an indicator of how infrequently he used the slider last year. As far as I can tell, his command was just better last year—he may be throwing more sliders this year to compensate for his inability to consistently locate his straight fastball.
In general, his MO is to throw the 4-seamer away. It doesn’t have much movement, and when he misses over the plate, it’s a pretty easy pitch to hit, especially when all his fastballs are 91-93.
by John Q Freejazz on Jul 29, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I thoroughly enjoyed
this game. Twists, turns and the right team won. What a fun game to start this series. I think we rose to the occassion pretty well. It’s up to Z tonight to keep the Brewers bats in the dugout. Great approach to get CC out of the game but it took 124 pitches to do it and still throwing 95 MPH!! Lilly gave us a great start but was ready to walk to Milwaukee to get him out after 5 straight hits. Get this one tonight and we’ll have them doubting. This may be the key game to the series, never easy though, remember that!
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
Pretty amazing...
...how obvious the Brewers are about throwing Sabathia until his arm falls off. Rental cars get treated better than that…
by Shawon O Meter on Jul 29, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm still shocked he left him out there that long..
If he’s not careful the new pick up might not be available come sept b/c his arm might fall off.
"Go Cubs Go"
HAHAHA a mention to Hammer bout the balk?
This was the topic of discussion in the boards last night; I think Hammer spent a good 15 minutes trying to get everyone’s attention. I love it. Good shout out, Al!
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
If anyone here can cut video out of the highlight feeds...
... see if you can cut out the play where the balk was called and post it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Are we still talking about this?
If you’re going to request video, can we get Reed Johnson’s slide or something else worth watching?
by dr stabbingworth on Jul 29, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Shaking Off Soto --
Did anyone else notice?
Howry shook off Soto not once but twice before he threw the gopher ball to Branyan.
I said to my wife just before Howry threw the ball—“He probably shook off a breaking pitch so he could throw his very hittable fastball.”
Please Lou - No more Howry in close games.
If I can find a link to the St. Petersburg Times, I will put it in another post. It’s a story about the Rays releasing Gary Glover. Just substitute Howry’s name in this story and it’s like you’re reading about Howry’s recent exploits. I will try to get the link.
whats to shake off
he has basically one pitch a fastball….many time a catcher will give a sign to shake his head trying to make the batter think more than just sitting on a fastball
Let go cubs
Exactly...
...half the time a pitcher shakes a guy off, the catcher gave him the sign to do just that. Anything to make the hitter wonder what might be coming.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Here's the link...
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/baseball/rays/article745067.ece
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
Gaudin love
He comes in in the bottom of the 8th and strikes out the side with the heart of the Brewers line-up at bat. There might be some ice cold blood in those veins.
"I don't think anybody's paying attention to the Cubs." - Prince Fielder
many people (from oakland)
stated that gaudin was going to be a huge part of that trade. How right they were
Let go cubs
what a great trade that was... cheers to hendry for making that move!
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Props to Hendry for getting him
Even if Harden gets hurt, Gaudin makes that trade a big win for the Cubs
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
Agreed.
Getting Gaudin was a real coup for Hendry—he’s only 25 and can start or relieve, a great pickup, and it appears the only decent player lost was Gallagher.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Good trade for both teams.Gallaher will be a good pitcher for the A's.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 29, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions
also, Godforbid, If Harden gets hurt
Isnt Gaudin a reliable starting pitcher as well? It makes the trade worthwhile even if Harden gets hurt, and didnt Murton get sent to AAA the other day?
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions
even if harden gets hurt
you have to leave gaudin in the pen, it looks like this guy can throw everyday and seems to thrieve in clutch spots
Let go cubs
good point
The Shark could always be a starter as well
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions
The face of Piniella on the after game interview
He was as excited as a little kid after winning a little league game! Great game, well played on both sides.
The important thing is regardless of what happens the next 3 games the Cubs cannot be swept!
They also have their 3 best starters pitching while beating the Brewers best pitcher. Soriano is back offensively…back his only out was a line deflection in a top ten play for ESPN…..
Today Sheets vs Zambrano, both teams know their opponent, I suspect another game of 6-4, 6-5 when its done. That said Fukudome and Edmonds will start.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Eyre
I feel like it was about 3 to 4 weeks ago Eyre was on Waddle and Silvy and it was apparent from the coversation that Lou was really happy with how he was pitching. Things have changed quickly. Has he been that bad? I can’t remember the last time he pitched.
What a complete team win. Good starting pitching, some of the big guys stepped up, Reed with the great slide and good work by most of the bullpen.
Lets do it Cubbies
If memory serves me correctly
He didnt let up a run since last August at one point this year, but I remember saying that one day and then seeing him get rocked.
Eyre has pitched in 18 games, 11 innings pitched! He is 2-0 with a 4.91 E.R.A
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
June 26th
Eyre hasn’t pitched since then. He came off the DL on July 24th, so it’s only five games during which Lou has had no use for him.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Ask Lou
but it seems like if the Cubs are winning or the score is close, the bottom half of the bullpen (according to a ranking system known only to him) cannot get in the game.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
5 game threads, 3680 comments!!!
This has to be a record. What a game last night. I knew after the Cubs failed to get anybody in during the 6th that the Brewers would mount a little comeback. The Cubs kept battling. Lilly looked great(aside from the 6th), and CC got off easy. The Cubs could of scored 5-6 runs off him. Marmol looked very sharp. He was just missing on some of those pitches. Tonight will be the game of the year.
Yea last night was nuts
I went to Yogi’s, a good sports bar in Bloomington, IN, and I felt like I was in Wrigleyville. Not only are there fake ivy walls and 500000 TVs with every game you can think of, even in the summer in this college town the place was packed with Cubs fans… breaking into Go Cubs Go after we won, singing it to the few brewers fans in attendence. 1.50 Budweisers too! Great night…. I got the chills after we won and the place erupted
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Man, sounds like a great time
Would’ve loved to been there. I watched the game on MLB.tv on my 19 inch monitor with a tall glass of water and a nutty buddy.
Nothing wrong with that!
No matter where everybody was or what they were doing drinking eating or anything else, a Cubs fan has got to love the game they just witnessed… now I kind of want a nice cold glass of water and a nutty buddy
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
the game
what a rousing victory! the cubs have really turned on the afterburners
and the game thread: colossal. never seen anything like it
shark sighting tonight? hope it’s a cubbies blowout and we can get the kid in there in a low pressure situation and watch him mow brewboys down
Pineilla needs to share the blame with Howry
i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again before you go on a DFA witch hunt with the bullpen take a look at the how the manager is using it
With the way Howry’s been pitching he should be worked into more low leverage situations. Granted, with the way our bullpen has been tattered of late I understand needing an inning out of him yesterday and for the most part he did his job
how did he “do his job” you ask if he blew the game
well… he NEVER should’ve been left in to face Branyan who is 0-14 with 8 K’s this year against Lefties.
Where is Scott Eyre? Is he dead? Or is it in his contract that he no longer pitches for the Cubs but is simply the bullpen jester?
He should’ve been used to retire Branyan or at least force Ned Yost’s hand to use 2 players in one PH move
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 29, 2008 9:23 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Eyre has only pitched 11 innings in 18 games
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
LSA
Howry has to execute, but Lou NEEDS to play the numbers there.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jul 29, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
Letting Howry get two outs and then pulling him would’ve been a great way to build his confidence.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
I was just glad that Bobby got through that inning,
and the game was still tied.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Me too
it wasn’t a badly pitched inning, at least for the first two batters. His confidence would have been much higher leaving at that point.
One mistake pitch though, a low fastball (and a slow one at that) to a low fastball hitter.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
+1
...As soon as Branyan was announced I was thinking the same thing. Bob did his job, now go to your Loogy to counter the move.
"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08
Just another in a series of bad BP & Bench moves
I will always be in the minority but I still say the Cubs win despite Lou not because of him.
How do you not put in Cotts or Eyre to pitch to Branyan ? Maybe Jimmy was right. Lou uses Howry
deliberately to mess up so Hendry will get him another BP arm ? I mean lose a game or two but
gain Fuentes ? Ok just kidding but folks he has been doing this stuff all season.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 29, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Tough call
early on in the season he used his BP .1 IP here, .2 IP there and I know I complained. Now he seems to be obsessed with “saving his bullplen”. I can’t quite figure Lou out. Is he maybe drinking before the game now?
Go ahead, Z me.
we're in the minority together
but nothing personal against Lou, I just happen to believe every team wins in spite of their manager to some degree
That is one of my favorite arguments from the Lou-lovers though, the one that he’s “sending a message” to Jim Hendry
So let me get this straight… you’re in support of the guy intentionally not doing his best job to send a message to someone else in the organization?
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 29, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a Strawman
I’m a “Lou-lover”, but there is no way in the world he’s sending a message by putting folks on the mound he doesn’t think will succeed. And I don’t think anyone would ever seriously make that claim.
Dome-san!!
by Goat Whisperer on Jul 29, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think he would put someone on the mound that he doesn't think will succeed...
However, I do think he would continue to send someone out there, expecting that he get his job done, (i.e. Bobby Howry). That’s all I say, not a topic for today for me.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
here's your post from the thread
Lou is forcing Hendry’s hand…
by continuing to send Howry out there. Am I the only one that can see this?
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 25, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 29, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
one more... just for fun
He’s saying to Hendry,
"get me some arms down here that can do their job." Lou can’t make it any clearer. Expect Hendry to make a move by trade, and don’t be surprised if the Shark stays for a while, even after Woody comes back.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 25, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions 0 recs
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 29, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
it was made...
time and time again in the DFA Howry thread…
feel free to check it out
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 29, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
or just look above
at the great flip-flopper himself Jimmyeatworld
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 29, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
That's why I used "seriously". :)
Dome-san!!
by Goat Whisperer on Jul 29, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
It's clear we don't agree sir.
I respect your view point, and will defend your right to your view point. Likewise, I ask of you to respect my view point as well. Understand: I was not speaking literally. I was speaking figuratively. I don’t believe for a minute that Lou would send someone out there to fail. What I am saying is: I believe it is totally within the realm of possibility that, (speaking in a cause & effect way), that Lou would send a pitcher out there, (i.e. Bob Howry), to do his job, EVEN if there is a chance that by doing so, the pitcher will not succeed. Further, I believe that “forcing a GM’s hand” is a old ploy used by managers in the past. Lou is from the old school. He did it last year, and actually blew up in a press conference regarding getting players that would “do the job.” Then Barrett was jettisoned.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Sending a player out again, in pressure situations, is not only...
expecting said pitcher to get his job done, it is also a way of finding out if the pitcher can do his job. Baseball is a game of results. Evaluating if a pitcher can do his job anymore is a matter of putting him in like situations to the norm that are his job. Finding it if a pitcher “still has it”, or has lost it is not answered by putting him in “low-pressure” situations. At this point in the season, it is realistic & reasonable to expect Bob Howry to do his job as a primary RH set-up man. If he has lost it, it is important to know. Subsequently, and lastly, if Howry can no longer be counted on, and can no longer do his job; it is entirely reasonable to replace him with someone who can do his job.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
It was definitely a disappointing oversight.
By the way, congrats to Maddux on his 351 win!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
It's a bad situation
when I’m happy Howry only let in his requisite one run.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Complaining about Soriano watching the first ball is asinine
The guy made it to second base, the exact same place he would have been if he took off sprinting as soon as he hit it. Obviously, there are hundreds of players who like to watch their home runs. They are comfortable with it, their teammates (many of whom do the same thing) are comfortable with it, and fans should be. At the most, it turns maybe three doubles into singles over the course of the year.
What’s particularly annoying about those who complain about Soriano watching is that they tend to be the same people who love Theriot. The same Theriot who has the absolute worst zone rating among regular starting shortstops, has no arm, is a stunningly bad baserunner, has no power whatsoever, and is the antithesis of clutch.
I'll take a hot-hitting Soriano all day. He can stand there
at home and watch them fly out. I can’t believe any Cub fanwould complain about him the way we have struggled to score runs. I think he is about to hit another hot streak and I want to be along for the ride!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 29, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Why do you need to get all negative after such a great game
I love Theriot, and for good reason… but we dont need to get into that argument, but Im not complaining about Soriano, he played great! Im not a fan of the posing for a HR, but as long as he got a double out of it I dont care… why do you feel the need to bash a player on our team that has been a key contribution to our run support?!? Just to get into an argument?
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Sorry I couldnt help myself...and I swear I will not get into another Theriot debate but I want to say something....
Theriot made 390,000 last year, was drafted in the 3rd round, and yet we get a starting SS out of him while he bats over .300 so far all year, and he is 5th on the team in Runs scored behind fukudome, lee, ramirez and derosa, 2nd on the team in hits only 5 behind DLee, and first on the team with OBP. Yes, he doesnt have power… but not everyone on the baseball field is there to hit HRs
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
As long as he keeps hitting .310-.320...
he’s productive. His power isn’t a big problem if he’s getting on base at a .380-.390 clip. If he’s getting on base at a .350-.360 clip (which would be the case with a .280-.290 average) then he becomes a liability with his defense and his lack of power.
The “haters” were talking down about Theriot based on the idea that he could not sustain his high average. Somehow, he has sustained it this season.
Theriot isn't clutch?
His numbers Late and Close: .324/.432/.353. Still no power, but I’ll take the .432 OPB any day.
The rest of your argument I agree with, by the way.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jul 29, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
No, he's not
Look at his numbers with runners in scoring position generally (.268/.371/.664), and with two outs in particular (.258/.370/.660).
by Leon Durham on Jul 29, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
can we NOT go into
the Riot debate. Please?
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
hi jimmy!
whats up?
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Me, just barely...
Last night’s game exhausted me… then I was so amped from the win I had trouble getting to sleep… That’s ok though, I’ll have an extra cup o’ joe this morning. How are you? What’s up with you?
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Last nights game was exhausting
i can’t imagine how the guys feel. i was listenng on the radio and felt wiped out. :-p
i’m good. at the moment i’m trying to get my class schedule in order for the fall. and then i’m going to go play w/ the furbies outside. yay summer. :-)
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
What are ya studying college girl?
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Did you guys notice the overreaction by the Brewers
When CC tried to stop a liner (can’t remember who hit it) with his glove hand? I mean the ball nicked his glove, and the staff runs out to make sure he is okay. I instantly was thinking “Oh my gosh CC, are you okay? You almost had to field a ball. Whew, don’t scare us like that.” Ugh.
sometimes I dont understand why these guys cant play ball and be treated like the rest of the ballplayers
Pitchers make a ton of money for only pitching every 4 or 5 days, and yet the AL teams complain about their pitchers having to hit in the interleague matchups, and they get all freaked out when a pitcher has to field a ball. These are professional athletes, atleast they are supposed to be, so I dont understand. But yes, that was very funny, I actually noticed that myself.
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I can see it if it was his pitching hand,
but yeah, let the pitchers play baseball too. They are capable of making outstanding plays as well.
Why doesn't Lou use our lefties
in obvious lefty match up situations? I know Cotts is better against righties but why have Eyre on the roster if you are not going to use him? The only explanation is he is going to be traded.
I think Howry’s problem is he pounds the outside corner. He needs to pitch inside once in a while.
Thank God Soriano is back.
Quade needs to get better. A third base coach cannot cost a team runs. D. Lee is slow. It had nothing to do with getting a foul ball off his knee. He was thrown out over the weekend too.
The Brewer fans who cheered when Lee went down just show that they are not true baseball fans. They are classless.
Harvey the wonder hamster
Harvey, Harvey, Harvey the wonder hamster, he doesn’t bite, he doesn’t squeal, he just runs around on his hamster wheel!
Great game, and looking forward to a big performance by big Z!
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
Big Z
and the shark. wait’ll the brewboys get a load of that!
by brian custer on Jul 29, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Nice.
Especially since I’ll be going to that guy’s concert tonight.
Weird Al, not Mike Fontenot.
Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.
But Mike Fontenot's album
I am the Walrus, I am the Ninja is number one with a BULLET!
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Interesting post on Brew Crew Ball from July 11
This is a very interesting post on that other BCB (Brew Crew Ball) showing the movement and velocity changes in certain pitchers fastballs. I would be curious to see our pitchers mapped out.
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 9:48 AM CDT reply actions
I >THOUGHT<...
...I saw the home plate ump call that a balk! Didn’t really matter in the end, even if we were all mystified by Cedeno’s ‘air tag’...
Great game overall – I’m floored by the number of overflow threads needed…even Brew Crew Ball needed an overflow.
Lilly's pick off move
Lilly has caught a few people running with his move to first but than just floats the ball over to D. Lee. You would think he could get a little more pep on the ball.. I like the fact that he is catching people but than he lets them off the hook with the lollipop throw.
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
a "lillypop" throw
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
The loolipop throw sets up the pick-off.
You don’t use your best pic-off move first, you set the runner up. Which Lilly does very well.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm doing all I can.
And stop calling me Shirley.
Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.
I can't believe the Hot Dog won
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
The Chorizo always gets jobbed...
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
Must be afraid that Prince will eat him
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
I wish my lazy brother would get "Jobbed".
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
Is it just me,
Or should we be swinging at some of the 3-0 pitches that we are seeing lately. I have watched almost every game the past couple weeks. Every time there is a 3-0 count on our guys it seems to me the pitcher throws a meatball over the plate. I know that you probably arn’t in theory supposed to swing on that count. But my god i think every now and then you should if every time it is a verry hittable ball.
I'm just happy with the six walks
I don’t have any stats, but it seems like when we take pitches, we win.
Some hitters get the green light on 3-0.
But for a lot of hitters, that “meatball” would wind up being hit for a groundout.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Walks won the game for them last night,
So i don’t think it is a bad thing. Puts more pressure on the pitcher and gets his pitch counts up.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
I'm with you Al,
taking on 3-0 is usually pretty good. If it is a ball, awesome. If it is a pitcher’s strike, it is a 3-1 count, which is also very favorable for a hitter.
I loved making CC throw 130 or so pitches; lots of long at-bats.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jul 29, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I seem to remember Aramis
once saying that he doesn’t like to swing on 3-0, even though a team’s clean-up hitter is usually the only guy given the green light in that situation. He doesn’t feel comfortable in that particular count. I think that’s great. If you can afford to take in a particular count, then take, and wait for a count that you’re more comfortable in.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
well then
If thats true then that clears up my question. That was my point, that the clean up hitter should swing at it sometimes. But if he is uncomfortable in that count then I can understand.
by huskercubby on Jul 29, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe it psyches him out
knowing there’s almost definitely a strike coming.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
I think so
Once in a while I see him swing at the first pitch, but I swear the scouting reports say to pretty much throw him a meatball on the first pitch, becasue almost every time he bats, the first pitch is fat and he rarely swings.
yes it was.....
i remember it sorta caught everyone off guard…..all the sudden aramis is in the box, cordero worked quickly and next thing i know i was jumping around like an idiot
Well, I haven't heard everything he's every said
so I could be wrong. But I do seem to vaguely recall this. Maybe it was Brenly saying what Aramis told him.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Oh, I didn't mean that you were wrong,
I meant that Aramis never said he doesn’t like to swing on the 0-0 count. Sorry.
thanks
at least somebody kinda agrees. I wasn’t trying to insinuate that he should all the time. My opinion is that I think he should every now and then because we could get some more runs rather then walks.
by huskercubby on Jul 29, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah im not saying we should a lot at all
We do win games when we are patient. I think im targeting this toward Ramirez more then anything. It just seems to me that he is NEVER swinging at that pitch. And like I said, I do understand why. But man a player like him while hes in a bit of a slump you would think he would like to take a good rip at that pitch. But I agree with what you are all saying. I just think a player like him could get some more production on a 3-0 count then just a walk.
Read the response above...
... to see why Ramirez doesn’t swing at 3-0 pitches.
Also, if you will click “reply” under the post you are replying to, this will thread better.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
yeah that was my bad. I meant to post that as a reply.
I said that about ramirez before JohnM posted that Ramirez doesn’t like that count.
by huskercubby on Jul 29, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Heh...
Wife does all the sewing, huh, gwood? >8)
by Shawon O Meter on Jul 29, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Yup she does
but, while thread can be a verb when used in the sewing context,
Al turned the noun “thread”, referring to a discussion on a blog, which is a noun, into a verb. ;)
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
Today is a big game
If the Cubs win, as Al said they have pitching advantages the rest of the series and they know that they’ll be walking away from this series with at least a one game lead in the division.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 29, 2008 10:17 AM CDT reply actions
Here's hoping Z can keep himself under control
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
he's been pretty
consistent. One, maybe two games where he’s really taken it to the gatorade coolers. Otherwise, “good” Z.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
He'll be fine, I'm sure..
crosses fingers
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
I don't know why you'd be concerned...
Look at NLDS Game #1 and most of his starts this year.
Dome-san!!
by Goat Whisperer on Jul 29, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
CC's Glove
Does he wear a catcher’s mit on the mound? That thing was grossly oversized in comparions to the gloves that other pitchers use. I get that he is large man and has large appendages…but not that large. He could have caught footballs with that thing. Just a random thought…. :).
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on Jul 29, 2008 10:19 AM CDT reply actions
it's great to be back
it was bad enough having to follow the weekend games on my phone while in new orleans for a bachelor party, but coming back to be able to watch this series on the tv is a great way to recuperate.
how much does d-lee owe reed johnson for that slide? he was on top of weeks in about 2 seconds flat.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Last night's win...
really sets up the series in the Cubs advantage. To go in there against arguably their best pitcher, and win the first game gives the Cubs a mental advantage & momentum. Also, Yost spent his bullpen last night, or at least spent his “good” arms in the pen. what is he going to do the rest of the series? Especially if Sheet gets hit up tonight, and leaves early, what does Neddly-do do then? I am so glad we have Lou as our manager. Yost has become progressively worse since he started in Milwaukee. Which is a surprise b/c Yost came from working with Cox in Atlanta… I like it though.
Jimmyeatworld
Yes, Len and Bob were commenting...
...on the fact that Torres threw almost 40 pitches (IIRC). He isn’t that good to begin with, and he’s already worn down. Me likey.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Love starting off a series
and proving to the other team we can hit their closer. Feels like a huge mental edge.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Definitely!
And our man with the face did good last night! Not so much in the sixth inning – but he still put together a quality start.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
and he battled
gotta love ted. :-)
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Sorry I read that last sentence out loud
And it made me giggle like a Jr. high kid.
where's the TWSS posse? :-)
"That guy is a gamer." said Ron Santo of Reed Johnson on 07-25-08
by love the ivy on Jul 29, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Zambrano at Miller Park
10 GS, 5-5, 4.15 ERA, 60.2 IP, 54 H, 31 R, 28, ER, 26 BB, 62 K, 6 HR. However, 4 of those loses came in 2004-05, so he’s pitched much better there in the last 2 years.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
wait...
there was a balk?
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
Home plate ump
Stood up and pointed to Lilly during the play. I assume that he was not telling Lilly he was the man for picking off Weeks and that it was a balk. Len and Bob did not comment on it so I assumed I misinterpreted what I saw.
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on Jul 29, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I saw that
and whats more so did Yost. There was a shot of him shouting out to the ump about it, and he was apparently satisfied as he was smiling.
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Jul 29, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 10:49 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Oh good your here...
Project for the day!
The wonder hamster…. Go to it! My lack of photoshop skills leaves it only to my imagination.
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on Jul 29, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
well this is what I found and like to use for the wonder hampster....
Now if only santos can photoshop fontenots face onto that little guy
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Haha
Nice. I’m imagining a Fontenot/Hamster clone….
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on Jul 29, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
little dood
needs a cubs jersey.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I dont know how to photoshop, and I dont have the program to try
Here the link for the picture... someone photoshop this, I like the possibilities.
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't take my time...so sue me.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Haha
What, do you have anything better to be doing on a Tuesday at 11:00am? Thanks!
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on Jul 29, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHA
Alright alright alright…. now he just needs a cubs hat
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Mine got a little blurry when i converted in from bitmap to jpg
"Look at it this way: If you're a Cubs fan, the Greatest Day of Your Life is yet to come." ~ Cubs Forever
by IvyOnTheWall on Jul 29, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Very cool Ivy!
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on Jul 29, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I like this as well
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
what program do you use for all your little clever photoshop things
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
haha I get it...
It took a minute though
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
After reviewing the numbers vs. Sheets
It seems that DLee is our best chance at hitting Sheets well, although Ramirez has seen him the most. ” >Cubs v. Sheets
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 10:50 AM CDT reply actions
Lee is hitting .327 off Sheets
with 6 homers and 12 rbi in 51 plate appearances.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Jul 29, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Yea I know... thats pretty good, I recapped that in my fanpost a few minutes ago
Cubs. V. Sheets (This time the link shall appear!)
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, didn't notice the FanPost
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Jul 29, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
no problemo... just thought I would point it out
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
good deal
i figured i’d try and help a fellow hoosier if i could.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Jul 29, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
aaaa yes...
You a IU Hoosier, or an Indiana resident Hoosier… or both?
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
i'm of the indiana resident variety
i had to get out of here for college, and then work called me home.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Jul 29, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
you're down at IU right?
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Jul 29, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes I am
I am from the southside of Chi though, but Ive been here at IU for a bit… going on a 5th year, love it in Btown so I take classes in the summer here as well
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Bloomington is outstanding
the fiancee went there, so i’ve made it up and down kirkwood a time or two…
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Jul 29, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
The Bluebird is the best bar
on Walnut… Ive seen soo many great shows there
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
bluebird is solid.
i’ve got the sink the biz set from nick’s at the house. and as far as townie bars go, the video store isn’t too bad.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Jul 29, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
We have a sink the biz set at our apt as well
Nicks is cool, but the Vid is a waste of space… that place smells funny and weirds me out, although the bouncer used to drum for ted nugent and REO speedwagon
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
maybe it was because my options were sports or the vid.
and i didn’t feel much like dancing…
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Jul 29, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
yea Sports is outta control
Your either downstairs with all the frat guys and sorostitutes, or upstairs dancing non stop in a rap club… I like going to sports for happy hour and games only… Yogis is the best for Cubs games though for SURE.
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
ah, yogi's good, solid fun.
i need to get down to bloomington this summer.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Jul 29, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Where are you from on the Southside?
I grew up in Burnham and lived in Hegewisch too.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Well damnit, I give up
the computer is acting goofy, you get the point….
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 10:51 AM CDT reply actions
Gaudin has been terrific...
what is his contract status? It would be great to have him, Shark, Marmol and Wood closing out games for the next few years.
I believe he was on a 1 year contract with Oakland
because he was re-signed on Jan. 25 with a one year contract
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd love that.
That’s a money pen, and young to boot.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
I'm working from home.
which is relaxing, although I don’t act much different. Just means I can talk on the phone in meetings from my porcelain throne.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
It's just me and the boss in a small office.
Company corporate HQ in NY, and we work out of an office just outside Chicago. The boss & I are best friends for 20 yrs., roommates from college. I try to actually get some work done, and not be on here all day…
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
My boss
is at the other end of the hall and I can hear him coming.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
...
not gonna say it.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
ha!
me neither.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Please no and thank you so far
that is a mental image I don’t need right now.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
In the office...
Just keep in mind…that they always know where you are…the IT department that is.
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on Jul 29, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Me neither
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
I am the IT department!
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on Jul 29, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I am the office!
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
Which one?
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on Jul 29, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Knew that was coming!
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
What can I say
I’m predictable :)
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on Jul 29, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh man...
Season Five can’t come quick enough!
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
does it count as work if i'm just reading this and looking up information on tonight's game?
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Jul 29, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I would say sooo
I am actually sitting in a Media class right now ignoring the teachers obvious lecture and talking to all of you!
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
i mean, i am getting paid at the same time.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Jul 29, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
God it's a good thing there was no broadband, WiFi or cheap laptops/PDAs when I was in school
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
I'm teaching at a summer camp
So we’re doing research during lab times and I basically post on the thread/listen to the game and take breaks here and there to answer questions, lecture, and tell them to be quiet, please. :P
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
Wack a Mole Routine
Don’t know if anybody else noticed that the routine has been modified to end with the wonder hamster jumping on Z’s back and Z carrying him around like a pack mule. I like the loosiness…but not a big fan of Z having his back jumped on.
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on Jul 29, 2008 11:08 AM CDT reply actions
LBR
is probably lighter than a Gatorade barrel.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
True that but as one
who has had a series of back injuries where I can’t explain how I did it…it worries me a little given he has had back issues in the past. Just don’t want a freak injury…
"Aw, how could he (Jorge Orta) lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico." -- Harry Carey
by TheRiot Police on Jul 29, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
if z knows he's being jumped on
and fonty feels like he can get away w/ it… than i would’t worry. z’s fine!
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
agreed
and what about all those post walk off games where everyone slaps eachother on the head and jumps up and down… that concerns me more then a midget on a giants back
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
speaking of
did you see the pic in the trib of fonty standing next to derrek? he looked like the bat boy. i’ll try to find it again. it was hilarious.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's great!
It looks like Lee is sizing him up.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
LOL
Nice!
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on Jul 29, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
soo thats how I look next to tall dudes...
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jul 29, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
LBR has me beat by almost half a foot
my only solice in that is that Im female lol
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 29, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
that reminds me of every day in grade school.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Jul 29, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
You went to school with Mike Fontenot?
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
not so much.
i am mike fontenot-sized. so the patting on the head i am used to.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Jul 29, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought the obvious thing would be to say
“you went to school with D Lee”? so, I switched it up.
I’m closer to Fonty’s height (much closer) myself.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
i think it's why he's such a favorite
most folks can relate to being fontenot or theriot-sized.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Jul 29, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ahhhh
The wonder hamster!
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on Jul 29, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty sure if I was that close
to a hamster that big….I’d be turnin’ and runnin’
"ROUS's? Rodents of Unusual Size. Don't worry, they don't exist."
http://margaritagirl11.spaces.live.com/
this just killed me
well done sir, well done
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 29, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Did Harry Potter turn Fontey into a hampster?
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
yes, 5.8 about 35 miles away
it felt like high 4s low 5s by the time it got to West LA.
a long rolling earthquake. so far, so good, just bad phone service as everyone seems to be calling everyone else.
thanks for asking. :-)
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
Reminds of a post from another blog years ago
When a fan saw Lee standing next to Todd Walker and said Walker looked like Derrek’s
between inning snack.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 29, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha...love that pic...
Anyone got a pic of when Z was pounding on Fontenot’s head and he kept getting smaller?
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Too funny
There was also a picture of Z with Fonty and Z held his hand up high so Finty couldn’t reach it and Z with a huge smile on his face.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
Oh no..I missed that one..
Just the image of it makes me laugh..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Fonty looks like a hobbit next to DLee
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
The angle makes it seem
like Lee is saying, “You must be this tall to play pro ball.”
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
No Mercy Tonight!!!
“We’re not just going to shoot the bastards, we’re going to cut out their living guts and use them to grease the treads on our tanks!”
by nervousCUBlover on Jul 29, 2008 11:54 AM CDT reply actions
What movie is that quote from?
...feel I should know this
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on Jul 29, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
patton?
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Jul 29, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
That's affirm...
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
Patton silly
and you should know that :-)
by Andre Fonseca on Jul 29, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
D Lee comes through in the Clutch
Now will you guys stop harping on D. Lees supposedly unclutch hitting?
I know he almost GIDP but so what- this guy is an incredible team player.
BTW, Jim Rome radio has CC Sabathia on next hour (1-2 pm)
I’ll try to give an update after the interview. Not everyone likes Rome, granted, but he does get the interviews.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jul 29, 2008 12:35 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
on ESPN Radio?
Can’t find it on the streaming espn page
by Andre Fonseca on Jul 29, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah ESPN Radio...but I always have trouble finding it online...I'm just listening to my local broadcast
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
CC on Rome:
—“Electric” crowd, he pulled up to Miller and the parking lot was already packed with tailgaters
—Said he didn’t have his best stuff last night, went 2 strikes to a lot of guys, but couldn’t close it
—Rome asked about high pitch counts, CC said during the course of a season sometimes you just can’t get em
—Asked about staying in Milwaukee, CC focused on this year and helping the team winning
—CC says he “LOVES IT” when it comes to batting
—Rome asked bout Braun and how he admires his own work a bit too much…CC doesn’t think he admires his homers too much, “it’s just apart of the game…when you’re hitting them as far as he’s been hitting ‘em, you can admire em”.
—Rome asks bout bullpen, CC says he doesn’t try to pitch CGs because of the bullpen, but because his pitch count isn’t high enough to come out; doesn’t think there is a problem with the Brewer bullpen: “It looks solid.”
I like CC, he’s a good ballplayer, well-versed, and seems like a nice guy.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jul 29, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes, thanks, Dan
good info and much appreciated.
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
Temporary first base coach...
With Matt Sinatro serving his two-game suspension, did anyone notice that Ivan DeJesus stepped in to coach first base last night?
I vote we ship him off in a trade to the Phils for an old shortshop and some young 3rd base schmoe from Spokane…who’s with me?!
question for anyone at game last night
were there any cub fans singing go cubs go after the victory? or was it to loud to notice?
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 29, 2008 1:10 PM CDT reply actions
I was singing it..
but I was in my living room in San Diego.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
i was singing too, in minnesota...
GoCubsGo
by MinnesotaFan on Jul 29, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I was also singing it
in Minnesota, in my basement to my one month old.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
singing at last night's game
You could here some people here and there singing “Go Cubs Go” but the crowd was too noisy to have the song carry and be picked up by more people. Brewer fans, what they lack in numbers they make up for in volume. I did witness an arguement between Cub and Brewer fans that went from baseball to hockey. No punches were thrown.
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"--The Brain
NEW HARRY POTTER TRAILER COMES OUT TONIGHT!! WOOOOOOO
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
This is the gayest thing you've every posted.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
You forgot to add "Not that there is anything wrong with that."
We are an open-minded and tolerant blog, after all.
Just for that, SWL, I'm going to talk about HP all night during the game thread/s
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
which "skills"
should he be praising?
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear he's quite
the wand-handler.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Expelliarmus!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Footnote: SWL can say this, because he & I are friends, and I'm not offended
Now, if this was a troll, or if he was calling Harry Potter gay, then I’d be offended.
(sarcasm)
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
wait
Harry Potter’s not gay?
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
no.
dumbledore is.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
NO HE'S NOT! Rowling just did that to stir the pot. I refuse to believe Dumbledore is gay...
...simply because we were never told this in the book, only ex post facto, which is BULL.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
It doesn't matter to me one way or the other
DD’s love life has no affect on the plot either way.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
eh.
if you read the last book again, with the history of Dumbledor’s relationship with that one guy, it colors it slightly knowing that he’s gay.
Not a big deal.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Seemed like a professional wizardry relationship to me...
...didn’t cross my mind until J.K. said it. I think it’s silly that she felt the need to throw in a token character like that, and it had to be the ominous old-aged, wise, quiet, single chancellor of the school. Not cool in my book.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
reports are
that she specifically told the movie people they couldn’t put in a Dumbledore flash-back romance with a girl because she knew he was Gay.
Just saying.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
SLAPS drew
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
oh, Draco...
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously though...
...as a (former) special education teacher, and now a doctoral student in adolescent literacy, the Harry Potter books are unlike anything this world has ever seen. Have you ever seen bookstores around the world jam-packed with children and adults alike at midnight for the release of a book? Whether or not you like the stories (I think they are absolutely brilliant), they get people to read, and that’s what I like.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Books are good....I read the first one...some of the second...
but your having the Pottergasm over a movie trailer.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm geeked about the new trailer too
Don’t give up on the second book. It drags a bit, but the 3rd one REALLY gets the story going.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I am geeked about the trailer/movie as well
I have read all seven books twice, my wife has read all of them about 4 times. It’s kinda scary actually.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
The first two books are the worst, IMO. I really like the progression of the children into "tweens" as you keep reading...
...And what else do I have to look forward to this year? Batman is in hiding, Iron Man 2 is two years away, Wall-E found Eva, and Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince is about the only movie left.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Look...I'm a 33 year old father of 3...
I don’t have a problem reading the books to my kids (they prefer the Narnia Books anyway), but I just don’t “get” the fascination adults have with some of the story lines as the characters get older. I’m just not that interested in a story/movie involving teenage wizards.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree. I only go to the HP movies because my kids like the series.
..and have read the books, but I’m a little too busy doing adult things like working (and following the Cubs! :-)) to take an active interest in HP. When I was a teen, I had the time to care about Middle Earth and the Lord of the Rings, but not any more…..
The Golden Compass
series by Philip Pullman far outshines Potter and others (although I love them all)—it’s dark, complex, deep, highly literate and a fun fantasy romp for the whole family. Highly recommended.
I speak of the books. Haven’t seen the movie.
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
eh.
I liked them, don’t get me wrong, but I didn’t feel at all pulled into the characters the way HP did. And I thought the ending outright sucked.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not arguing the literary value of the HP series...
...but I think it is clear that HP’s success has boosted the value of both The Golden Compass AND Narnia. If HP’s movies were not so successful, I don’t think either of those series would have been green-lit into movies. They were, and now kids are being reintroduced to the novels. It’s a win-win in my book.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
My son was into the Narnia Books before HP ever came out.
just sayn’
The Golden Compass is a nice story on the surface, but I have a problem with the “theology” it conveys….especially the last couple of books.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats C.S. Lewis for you though
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
It is a bit controversial in that area, it's true
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
funny
I feel exactly the same way about the Narnia books.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
+2
Although I remember the Narnia stories getting a bit old after the third or fourth book, granted I have not read them in a while.
psyched about the movies. The first one was pretty good.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
Haven't seen
the Narnia films; honestly, I was a little worried what they’d do with the “theological” aspects of the series.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
ignore them, mostly.
Prince Caspian was MUCH better than LW&W.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Funny.....
I’d say the opposite….but PC was very good. Reepicheep was the best part. My kids are really jazzed about “The Voyage of the Dawn Treader” now, just because of him.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I am waiting for PC to come on DVD
but can’t wait to see it.
I really need to re-read the books at some point.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
It's not overdone...
in fact, it’s pretty much just like the book, that is to say, they (theological references) are not obvious unless your familiar with biblical references.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed...
Narnia does not throw faith in anyone’s face. One can read the books without even knowing they contain any theology. Personally, I love C.S. Lewis as a writer and thought the series was absolutely brilliant. Downed the Narnia books about twice a year for 10 years of my life.
Free Ronny Cedeno
the later books
get way over the top. A Horse and His Boy, oy.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Kinda like the The Amber Spyglass...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, I think the whole Golden Compass thing
is a tempest in a teapost. He’s not telling anyone to kill god. Farthest from it—he’s telling people to NOT BELIEVE IN THE FALSE CHURCH.
God should have no problem with that. Remember Baal. :D
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you
just make a Stargate reference?
If so, good for you!!
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
Stargate
AND the Old Testamant! See what I did there? :P
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure Narnia was greenlighted on the back of the LOTR movies
At least, that’s how it appeared to me. People saw that Tolkien worked pretty well and decided to give Lewis a try…I doubt HP had much to do with that decision.
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
Just watched the Compass
with the kids last week. My daughter’s big into HP (middle of the 5th book right now; she’s 8) and I’d heard the Compass series was pretty good, too. Haven’t checked out the actual Compass books yet, which is kinda sad for a guy with a master’s in lit. Can’t read’em all though….
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
it's really worth taking the time
for anything written by Pullman…
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
I'll definitely read couple;
I’m sure the wife and daughter will, too. It’s difficult keeping up with the reading list these days, what with kids/work, etc. But I’ve always got a backlog of books I’m working through.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
Random question...
But what does a Master’s in Lit get you in life, as far as career potential?
I’m an English Major preparing for graduate school, and was thinking that that would be my path.
Free Ronny Cedeno
Seriously,
the subject your degree is in doesn’t really matter for the vast majority of work out there. Sure, it’ll matter for your first “real” job, but after that it’s much more about experience, who you know, and additional certifications, etc. You can literally do just about anything with an English degree. For instance, I work in the Quality department of a major pharmaceutical company; however, I still teach college writing part-time as well. Ideally, I’d finish my Ph.D. and get a full-time, tenured teaching gig, but that’s easier said than done, especially with a family to feed, etc.
The master’s works well in that it enables me to teach at any college/university part-time without too much hassle. Beyond that, it was just for my own interests and the fact that it looks good on the ol’ CV/resume.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
The best advice
I could give would be to study whatever you want, but be sure to focus on one or two specific jobs you hope to do once you get out. And I’m talking real jobs, too, not like, “I want to be the fiction editor for the New Yorker,” or, “I’m going to publish biographies of obscure forensic anthropologists and make millions.” Those jobs are already taken, and they’re pie-in-the-sky, too. What real, everyday job could you see yourself doing? Teaching? Sales? Training? If you want to teach, a master’s or doctorate will help immensely. If not, think about law school, an MBA (if you swing that way), etc.
Just my thoughts having done it all and learned the hard way, at least in some cases.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
Many thanks...
As liberal arts majors (English, specifically) seem to have a lackluster reputation. I actually read recently that English Majors have the lowest average income 10 years out of college…can’t find the article now, however. Somewhat worrisome, although I suppose it ultimately comes down to an individual’s motivation and strengths.
I currently have a Business minor to keep that avenue somewhat open, and might stockpile Journalism classes this last semester to earn a minor in case that becomes an option. Strength in writing and a passion for reading led me to the major, and I’m just now starting to explore future careers this major could lead me to.
My school has a GTA program, which allows one to teach Freshmen comp classes and get generously rewarded when one pays the Graduate school bill. So I’ll have teaching as a potential option as well. Side question, if you remain in the thread; does it help someone to attend multiple universities for Degree, Graduate Degree, Master’s, or is staying put just as beneficial? I had an advisor tell me to look into different graduate schools and then different schools for a Master’s as well.
And law school is somewhat intriguing as well. I’m already set for the LSAT this fall, but really only signed up to see if I was offered any scholarships, assuming I did well enough.
Free Ronny Cedeno
I was an English Major
and I work in IT, and have for 13 years.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I just finished law school
and have one important piece of advice. The school you attend does matter, a lot more than I thought it would.
I finished in the top 10% at a smaller law school and had trouble finding a job, whereas other I know who attended the University of Minnesota didn’t have much of a problem, even if they were lower down in their class rank.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
I have an M.A. in English...
...and I’ve been working in editorial/publishing envrionments for, gulp, about 13 years now. You can look into advertising, marketing and just about any kind of corporate communications. There’s also technical writing. My current employer is a marketing consulting firm.
All that said, I didn’t get my M.A. with any specific career goal in mind. I just didn’t want to leave school!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
+1, Daver
Worst thing I ever did was graduate college. I was having a blast and learning a ton in many different subjects, including Finance and Anthropology (ended up minoring in those). Was the perfect “lifestyle” for me. Always wished I was enterprising enough to come up with a way to make a living/career out of going to school. I’ll take any ideas!
I didn’t have a career in mind either, and so I fell into what I do now through tech writing. It pays well enough, but it’s not exactly what I’d planned to do either.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
I hear ya, keg.
I loved the student lifestyle – I just couldn’t afford to keep paying the price of admission.
I’d say the only way to keep living the student lifestyle indefinitely is to become a professor. I wasn’t quite willing or able to take things to that extreme, though.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Still workin' on that extreme
myself, but it takes a long time and it’s a tough racket to get into. I’m 34, so I’ve still got some time, but the clock is ticking…..
Go Cubs! I gotta go home.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
Professional student here:
And probably always will be in higher ed:
B.S. = 4 years
M.S. = 2 years
PhD = 5 years (starting year 2)
Think I’ll be in higher ed just about as many years as I was in K-12
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Me, too, until recently:
BA = 6 years (fulltime every semester, switched majors 3 times, graduated with over 200 hours)
MFA = 7 years (on and off, part-time, had to get clearance from the Dean to allow me to finish because it took so damn long)
Haven’t officially begun the PhD yet.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
Thanks...
And “I didn’t want to leave school” is my feelings too. I’m not terrified of joining the “real’ world, but I actually enjoy learning and stockpiling different resume builders. I looked into a General Studies Major, but was talked out of it due to a bad reputation it has. As long as it isn’t science, I could really take every class there is and have a blast. It’s hard to start narrowing things down when so many different career paths seem enticing.
Professional student. I think I’m ready to take a trip down a less-traveled road and make it my career. Graduate when I’m about 70 and two million dollars in debt, and die.
Free Ronny Cedeno
No problem.
Professional student. I’d love that title.
I’m on Eastern time here on the other side of the lake, so I’m takin’ off in a minute. But I’ve always heard that it’s preferable to get your degrees from different places because it reflects, maybe, a more objective experience. I.e. getting all your degrees from one place looks like you got in good with the staff/administration and just sat there racking things up. To go elsewhere and meet new professors, etc. says more about you. All that said: ultimately it doesn’t matter. After you’re out of college for a year or two, nobody gives a crap what your GPA was or your degree was in. The vast majority of people I work with have science degrees. Go figure.
I got my Bachelor’s at Loyola (Go Ramblers!) and my Master’s at Western Michigan (Broncos, meh). If I ever get my PhD, I honestly don’t know where it’ll be from.
Good luck whatever you decide. Just know that you can really do whatever you want; the degree only proves you teachable and willing to play by a certain set of rules. But if you do figure out a way to stay in school and get paid to do it, bring me along with you. I’ll ove my entire family to whatever school you’re at. I’ll be your business partner. Not kidding. : )
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
The Narnia books
were some of my favorites growing up.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
Hey!
I about wet myself when the Watchmen trailer come on before Dark Knight.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
that movie is going to totally
ROCK.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I never even
heard about the graphic novel, but when I saw the trailer I was stunned. Looks really cool!
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
You must read
the graphic novel. I don’t care if you read it before or after, but you MUST READ IT.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
V for Vendetta
is amazing, too. Also by Alan Moore.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
yes
but that movie was much less well done.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I have little faith in Zach Snyder:
...his best film is a zombie remake, he does NOT have the approval of Alan Moore, and he’s from Green Bay. What else do you need, people?
Dan
PS – But don’t get me wrong, I’d be glad to see him prove me wrong…
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Well, 300 wasn't bad.
It was a faithful adaptation so if you didn’t enjoy it, your bone is to pick with Frank Miller, not Snyder.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure Miller's on record...
...as being a tad pissed off that Snyder homoeroticized the film much, much more than the novel, and that the ending was different.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
the ending was different?
I’ve read 300. I’ve seen 300. The ending wasn’t different.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Miller worked on the film as EP.
He wasn’t involved to the extent he was on Sin City but it was clearly approved by him.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
300 was nearly frame for frame.
Alan Moore doesn’t give approval for ANYTHING. 300 was a fantastic movie, and Watchmen is being made the same way. Have you SEEN the preview? It’s like a dustjacket review come to life!
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Amen.
There were scenes in 300, and even more in Sin City, that were shot-for-shot from the book. Simply amazing.
I absolutely cannot wait for Watchmen.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
is the animation for it the same?
b/c 300 made my eye go crazy.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
You mean the matted colors and such?
If so, no.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a HUGE problem with Watchmen:
And if you’ve read the novel, you’ll get my point immediately.
The story-within-the-story, Tales of the Black Freighter, will NOT be in the movie in any way, shape or form. There will be a DVD of TotBF (I don’t remember if it will be released prior to 3/6/9), with voices by 300 dude Gerard Butler, but the story cannot possibly be the same without this.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Buuuuutttt...
a) the majority of moviegoers WILL NOT have read the book before seeing it and, thus, will not be affected. Those who have can fill in the blanks themselves.
b) the DVD release is said to incorporate the Black Freighter short into the movie proper.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
And who's to make or break the success of this film?
The fanboys that DO know the comic front, back, and everything in-between. It’s a long straw Snyder self-selected for himself.
Look at the names that have been “possibly” attached to this film over the decades: Tom Cruise is a HUGE fanboy of the comic, Darren Arfonsky (now THERE’S a good director, Zach), Paul Greengrass…
I want this to succeed, I[‘m just both playing devil’s advocate, and noting how difficult and monumental of a task this adaptation will be.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
No, I understand.
However, the average moviegoer will not have read the comic. Just like the average Dark Knight viewer only knows of Michael Keaton, not Frank Miller. Bob Kane who?
The fanboys will definitely beef up the numbers with multiple viewings if they enjoy it but still, the mass amount of people who see it will be experiencing the story for the first time.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
well
I understand that. You’re talking to someone who wanted a page-by-page adaptation of the LOTR books.
But SOMETHING has to go, and the Black Freighter is easily excised. Better that than a more critical sub-plot.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
And Moore doesn't give his approval for this movie...
...because WATCHMEN is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to make into a film. Damn near impossible. I want this film to succeed, I’m just as big a fanboy of this film as the next nerd, but I do not see how it can possibly succeed on any level near that of the book.
And the trailer has two omens I did not like: First, the trailer song was a Pumpkins song from Batman & Robin – one of the worst movies ever (why the HELL would you rehash that?!) and second, the movie is gonna use Snyder’s stupid stop-action violence, like when the guy crashes through the glass window. It’s like LOOK! Something cool is going to happen, everyone pay attention!!
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
He doesn't give his approval
based, mostly, on his experience on V. He was SOOOOO soured by that that he waived all ties, and royalties, for Watchmen very early on.
Yes, he has said it was unfilmable, but any dense story takes advantages of the medium it’s in. Comics take advantage of frame layout and allowing readers to absorb what’s going on slowly, while novels allow for exposition and in-depth description. Movies lack in these but make up for it in other ways. Watchmen will not be an easy translation, obviously, but a fear of such a challenge should not prohibit its creation.
Where did you read Snyder was using 300-like slowmo for the fight scenes?
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
It sure looks like he is if you watch the trailer
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
That may be so.
I’ve only seen the trailer once and wasn’t in a proper mind to pick out everything. :D
However, that could be a convention used simply for the trailer. If it’s for the movie…well, it is what it is.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
See, I liked the movie.
Different from the novel, yes, but still a good film. V was clearly less of an anarchist than Moore intended, but far from a goodguy hero Moore claimed the Wackowski brothers turned him into. I dunno…I enjoyed it.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
WATCHMEN??
ONLY GRAPHIC NOVEL TO WIN THE HUGO AWARD FOR BEST SCI-FI NOVEL. Simply STUNNING story. One of the best pieces of literature I have ever read, bar none.
Buy it for $20, sit in a cozy chair, and get a nice glass of scotch or whisky, and read it on a lazy Saturday or Friday night. And take your time. You’ll find yourself flipping back and forth a lot. It is simply perfect.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Better than Dark Knight Returns
Better than Ronin.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
You like the Sin City books?
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
actually, I've never read them.
I liked the movie, but didn’t fall in love with it either.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
That’s the key. Rowling got kids to read, nay, LOOK FORWARD TO READING 600+ pages. That’s really awesome.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
HERMIONE!
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
swoon
how long till she’s legal?
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
SHE'S LEGAL
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
No no no
She’s a good wholesome young woman, let’s hope she doesn’t turn into Britney, Amy Winehouse, or the rest of those skanks.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
she can be a Liv Tyler/Anne Hathaway
type. That’d be fine with me.
Or the next Jennifer Connoly.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Anne Hathaway
is gorgeous.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
If she were a president, she would be Babe-raham Lincoln!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 29, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
She's gonna be a heart breaker when she grows up...
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
because she's not now?
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, she is now...
She’s only 18 though, way too young. (Unless a guy is near her age, 18-25 or so).
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Yikes.
I’m 25, and dating an 18 year old would be decidedly creepy (for me).
Half your age plus 7 shouldn’t kick in until you’re 30 or so.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
Ok,
let’s say 19-23 then… I’m not an old man yet- (getting into the 40 yr. old neighborhood). She’s waaaaay too young.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds about right.
There’s a BIG difference between a 21 year old and a 25 year old, similarly, a BIG difference between an 18 year old and a 22 year old.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
And to think someone
got all bent out of shape about how some of us girls swoon over the hunks on this team. Sigh…...
OT: Earthquake in LA about 15 minutes ago. 5. somethng on the Richter scale.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
Wow. That's important news. Actually it's 5.8 on the Richter scale...
So it is eight times more powerful than a 5.0 earthquake. Hmmm….
Some of us in San Diego felt it.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope there isnt much damage and that no one was hurt
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 29, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I said 5. something
because I didn’t catch what they said after the 5. .
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
they started out saying 5.8 but
revised it down to 5.3 later on
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
5.8 was the score
it was a long rolling quake
my office is about 35 miles away and by the time it got here, it felt more like a high 4s low 5 quake.
Can’t make phone calls right now as lines are tied up, otherwise everything is fine. I’ am trying to call my house to check on my two dogs (a mile plus away…their first quake).
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
someone, quick!
Did CC and Prince fly to LA for a quick soy burger and latte?
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
good to hear
I don’t know how you all do it, living in earthquake territory. The tiny little tremor Chicago had last whatever it was scared the bejeebus out of me.
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
when my wife & I first moved from Chicago
we had the Northridge earthquake and my wife was asking the same thing. But luckily, these things come few & far between.
In the Midwest (which I remember well), you have heat & humidity, occasional and rare tornadoes and rare major snow storms. So you take the good with the bad in each place.
Today is is late July and it will be a high in the mid 70s and no humidity. I’ll take that with an earthquake, I guess. :-)
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
Watching CNN
glad to see you all are OK and that it’s been downgraded to 5.4
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
I actually slept through the Northridge earthquake
I woke up to my parents running into my room after it was done. Everything on my shelves were on the floor and my bed was clear across the room.
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
This past winter and spring
snow storms and tornadoes were not rare in the midwest.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
Thank you for changing the subject from Harry Potter...
even if it’s not for a good thing…. :)
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
Sorry, blame SWL...
...he requested I talk about HP all…night…long. So it’s just getting started!
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
All NIGHT long is fine
I will be at the bar watching the game tonight. Knock yourselves out with the HP stuff during the game thread! :)
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
I did...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like Tek from the real world
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
Speaking of which...
...anyone see A.J.’s new do? Dyed his hair blonde…here’s a link of a HUGE picture of it, a bit graphic in the blog.
http://litterblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/j-pierzynski-unleashes-his-inner.html
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
But...but...the Brewers are playing at home tonight.
I’m sorry, I’m sorry! I couldn’t resist.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
I get all my news on BCB
Thanks, Sue. LACarl mentioned it upthread. I was concerned. Time for CNN.
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
Sorry sue, didn't mean to bring up THAT discussion again...
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
all night long
Come on and sing along!
All night long! (all night)
All night long! (all night)
All night long! (all night)
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
Nothing like someone using the word "bosom"
and normal sized in the same sentence.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Am I
the only one who thinks this is frickin’ funny as hell and they don’t quite even know why?
lol, by the way
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
Man, I wanna meet a British girl.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I see what you did there.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Where?
Is that east of Indiana?
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
BCB makes Si.com
Not sure if anyone read Albert Chen’s article on Si.com but he gave BCB some ink:
“And Monday night’s game shattered a record for number of fan posts at the popular blog, Bleed Cubbie Blue.”
Here is the whole story if you’re interested:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/albert_chen/07/29/brewers.cubs/index.html
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
Cool... I haven't left this page the whole day
So I guess I am trapped in my happy little place.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
OT--Parking help?
We’re coming in tomorrow from NC to Chicago, have tickets Thurs in Milwaukee, Sun and Mon at Wrigley. I am soooooo excited. Problem is, staying at Ambassador East and they charge huge amounts to park the rental. Any ideas about parking?
Park in a garage
and take the El, man. Public trans is the way to go to the games, imo.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
Thanks
Got to get to Milwaukee and Madison, too, though. I’m sure there are parking garages around there. Just trying to figure it out. I’m so excited about seeing three games.
Go ahead and drive up to
Wisconsin. But as long as you’re staying in the city, I’d look into the Els, busses, and cabs to get around. It’s not too expensive and pretty damn convenient when you’re not familiar with the city too much and just want to get around. Not to mention, just having to deal with all the traffic…ugh. Even when I go back downtown now, after moving to Michigan about 10 years ago, I prefer using the El/cabs mostly to get around. So much easier.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
Don't drive to the game at Miller Park...
the traffic will be terrible, and parking will be a pain as well. Plan ahead and take a train instead. You can ride in comfort, without traffic & parking headaches, and it doesn’t cost too much, (much less than driving & parking). Check it out online.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember when I was there (and this was a few years ago)..
but depending on where you are staying there are a lot of parking areas around the hotels and there are buses that run to and from the games..
"Go Cubs Go"
Have fun, kids. Don't break the furniture.
Won’t be around for tonight’s game…I turned 30 today, and I’m celebrating my final steps into terminal adulthood by going to see “Weird Al” Yankovic in concert, down in Sioux City.
I’m hoping that the team gives me a win for my birthday. If the rest of you guys want to pitch in on something for me, that’s OK too.
Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.
Happy Birthday man.
I went to college in NW IA. Where do ya live?
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Vermillion, SD.
Went to college there and never quite got out.
Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.
Ah Vermillion.
I’ve been there once about 20 years ago.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Happy Birthday man..
I’d be interested in a small concert recap about Weird Al. Always wondered what his concerts were like.
"Go Cubs Go"
It should be a blast.
I saw him 12 years ago, just a few weeks after my 18th birthday. My cousin scored us second-row tickets, and the show was amazing. Even got to shake hands with him in the big “hey everyone let’s rush the stage and shake hands with the famous guy.”
Got front row tix this time. Can’t wait.
Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.
what a great way to start your 30s!
Start out laughing and keep laughing. Happy birthday!
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
Happy birthday!!!
I really hope the Cubs win one for ya. :P
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
Happy Birthday. Weird Al is a good way to celebrate...
GoCubsGo
by MinnesotaFan on Jul 29, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Happy Birthday!!
Enjoy the concert and hope for a Cubs win.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
Done and done.
Should be a good time around this board, too.
Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.
Really hoping for a win tonight..
I had to put my dog down today so I’m really bummed about that, but I promise you that if the Cubbies can pull out a W tonight I’ll feel a little better about everything.. Go Cubbies!!
"Go Cubs Go"
it truly is unbelievable..
Figured I’d be able to handle it but man its been a tough 24 hours knowing i only had so much time with him. I brought his cubbies collar and hawkeyes tags home with me.
"Go Cubs Go"
Sorry to hear that man...
...my 2.5 year old beagle (along with my girlfriend!) is my best friend and goes just about everywhere with me. I can’t imagine losing him.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
well we have another dog, but..
he was mine. I’ve been with her for 8 months and i’ve had him for just under 2 years so it was really tough for me but it was for the best (and that is truly the hardest thing to come to). But our other dog is a big momma’s girl so i compete with that.. Some day down the road I’ll get another, but i’d love a victory tonight to cheer up the spirits
"Go Cubs Go"
Sorry to hear that...
it’s always hard when you lose a long time pet. I lost a puppy dog ten years ago & it was really tough- I still miss little Mac. Got my cats now.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sorry for your loss
I have two dogs, ones seven and the other is two and I don’t know what I would do if I lost either of them at this point.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
I'm so sorry, mkcubs21
There’s nothing more heartbreaking than the moment you have to part with your pet. He’s in a good place now. Here’s a virtual hug for you. Now the Cubs must win in honor of your dog!
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
Thank you...
and thank you everyone.. I came here first b/c i knew that talking Cubs with everyone on here would take my mind off of it. My girlfriend gives me crap some b/c i’m on here as much as I am but these are the reasons that I am. We of course have the Cubs that we talk about but we have each other for everything else to.. Thank you all again.
"Go Cubs Go"
You got it.
We Cubs fans have to stick together.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats been my favorite thing about joining here..
We have each other for everything. I always read in Al’s recaps that he meet with this person or that person before the game and it really shows that we are in this together, one of the beauties of being a cubs fan!!!
"Go Cubs Go"
there are some that disagree with my view points...
However, they are fellow Cub Fans, and that is all that matters to me.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
So sorry to hear that
We lost our BC we had for fifteen years last December. We were lucky to have him so long.
The only advice I can give you is that it will get better but the first few days are unbearable.
Awwwwww. :(
That’s just heart breaking. I’m so sorry for your loss. :(
These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"
Hopefully our Cubs can assuage some of the pain your feeling right now with an easy win tonight.
Sorry to hear the bad news.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry for your loss.
I hope the Cubs make you – and all of us – feel a whole lot better tonight (again).
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Sorry to hear
about your dog. Hope the Cubs win tonight tohelp ease your pain.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
Very sorry...
...to hear that, mk. I honestly don’t know how I’d ever manage through that if it comes down to it w/ our dog >8^S
by Shawon O Meter on Jul 29, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry to hear it.
Hopefully the Cubs get the W tonight. Sounds like you could use it.
Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.
I'm so sorry
Saying goodbye to a dog is very hard.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone notice we are at 600+ posts for the RECAP?!
Can we break our own record AGAIN tonight??
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Easily.
The volume in the threads is a testament for the millions of Cubs fans around the world.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
or the tenacity
of a few dozen crazies. :D
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 29, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think that's more like it
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
i noticed that after posting some this afternoon and checking in agin right now.
i think it’s a distinct possibility.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
I think Al may have
to post more game threads tonight than he did last night.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
With all that BCB press coverage, and all...
by Shawon O Meter on Jul 29, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubscast.com also
did a good job of plugging the site. Al gave a great interview! Check it out: episode 427
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
if it's like this in july...
how might things get in september? 6-7 threads?
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
i can only imagine if the brewers are still hanging around that last week of the season
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
I will be at the game
on 9/27 in Miller Park. I’m hoping we already have things locked up. I’m not sure I could stand the excitement of that weekend being games we must win.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
I am going to
the last game of the season on 9/28. Can’t wait, but I hope we are clear of the Brewers by then, I don’t think I would be able to stand the stress/excitement either.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
Save the stress and excitement
for a few days later… :D
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
lets not talk about it yet
i’m not ready.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be surprised.
After being mentioned in SI and The WSJ, I bet a lot of newbies join in tonight.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
It seems like this past week
ther have been quite a few newbies here and I would expect there will be more now.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
as long as they're not trollbies
the more the merrier
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
Amen to that.
It was so nice last night not to have to deal with them.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
They were around for a bit after it was 3-2 Brew, but then DLee shut em up!
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
And just imagine
the number of lurkers out there, those that read every word in every thread yet never post? Seriously, I’m here every day (from work), and depending on my workload or the conversation, I may or may not join the fray. I was reading all day today but didn’t start posting until late this afternoon. I often wonder how many more people are out there soaking it all in but staying silent. I raise my coffee mug to you all. Cheers. Go Cubs.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
Cheers, indeed!
Just started today’s posting myownself.
Lurkers: say hi! Especially if you’re a British woman… :D
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Good thought Kegler.
Lurkers? I raise my coffee mug to you. If you are a Cubs fan, then you are my friend. It’s a beautiful that we are all bound together by our love for the Cubs. (Please excuse the sentiment).
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 29, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe that should read:
To those about to post, (FIRE!), I salute you.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
i lurked for a long time
before i started posting.
and now… i’m sort of addicted to it. :-p
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 29, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
sort of???????
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 30, 2008 1:54 AM CDT up reply actions
That's true about
readers who don’t post. We have has several newbies in the past few weeks so maybe they are coming out of lurk land now. I’m usually on here quite a bit during the day too. It’s my addiction I guess.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
enjoy it tonight.
sorry i won’t be able to make it. i’ve got to plan a seating chart for my upcoming wedding, so i’ll be following it all on WGN. have fun and go cubs.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
seating charts are a bear
and wedding seating charts are exponentially more difficult. Good luck! And… congratulations!
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
I had an easy time with my wedding seating charts
“whatever you think dear”
I could easily have been mistaken for a broken record at times ;).
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
thanks.
i’d easily be able to pass off the ‘whatever you want’ if the mothers weren’t getting involved tonight as well. so i’ll need the game to keep me occupied.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Congratulations on your
upcoming marriage and we will miss you tonight.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
thanks, sue.
it’s going to be tough missing a week for the honeymoon, i know that much.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
The thing about Cub fans
is that no matter where you are (and I live in eastern North Carolina) when you see someone in a Cub hat, you’ve just met a new friend.
and i personally always end up smiling and saying something like "great hat" or "Great shirt"
when i see a cubbies logo.. just makes the day go better… a happy moment..
GoCubsGo
by MinnesotaFan on Jul 29, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
The Chicagoan of course!
Then again, he did say he was a Sox fan.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I am just
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 4:19 PM CDT reply actions
trying to get
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
this thread up over
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
800 posts before
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Al can post
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
the Pre-Game thread.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
And yes...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I AM bored
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
This thread is about to...
...collapse under its own weight. Speaking of which, let’s keep Prince Fielder in the yard tonight! And, hey, here’s hoping Gagne gets another shot on the mound!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Bored?
Clearly you’ve yet to create a mnemonic device out of the first and last initials of the Cubs rotation.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 29, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
How bout a picture of Bernie the Brewer...
...sliding into a large vat of molten lava, liike in the Terminator?
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
TWSS
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
You sir, have been served
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
clickity clickity clackity clack!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Under Armour commercial?
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
no...my prolific typing sound effects!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 29, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
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