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I remember watching the baseball ESPN crew in 90's for the wednesday's games and really liking them, especially Gary Thorne. I don't think he's mentioned amongst the great commentators but he was one of my favorites. His calls during HRs (at the wall, Goodbye, Home run!!) were electrifying. I also saw him do NHL games and even though I don't follow hockey I thought he was great there to.

Any other guys who are great but aren't usually mentioned as being of the best?

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Thorne is a good hockey announcer.

I don’t really care for him on baseball. His pacing and cadence aren’t that good for baseball, though they suit a hockey game well.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jul 29, 2008 10:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Anyone looks good if you compare them to Hawk or Joe Morgan or Steve Phillips.

On a related note…I about threw my pillow at the TV last night after the game when I switched to ESPN and Buck Showalter was saying something to the effect of

“The Cubs might have won tonight but I’m still taking Millwaukee…CC had a great performance tonight keeping them in the game and they seem to have a lot better clubhouse chemistry than the Cubs.” – hmm…ok well I can see you taking Millwaukee maybe but I’d say the Cubs chemistry is pretty strong as well.

"Look at it this way: If you're a Cubs fan, the Greatest Day of Your Life is yet to come." ~ Cubs Forever

by IvyOnTheWall on Jul 29, 2008 11:10 AM CDT reply actions  

I heard that too

and I’m with you all the way. Buck doesn’t know squat.

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Jul 29, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Was Showalter Confused?

I believe he has mistaken this Cubs team for the 2004 squad in evaluating team chemistry.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jul 29, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Although Buck went to my alma mater...

...I must differ with his clubhouse chemistry comment.

First of all, clubhouse chemistry is vastly overated. Second, Buck is not exactly know for inducing the greatest “chemistry” on the clubs he has managed.

Milwaukee has a legit shot at the division, but if they win, it won’t be because of chemistry.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jul 29, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Buck Did Go to Miss State

I graduated from State. I’m not disappointed that he did not replace Ron Polk. I’m surprised that John Cohen got the job. I wanted Tommy Raffo to get promoted, and so did Polk.

This Cubs team has good chemistry. I don’t see any malcontents on this team. Zambrano has learned to control his emotions. Soriano is not a prima donna.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Jul 29, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Polk is a classy dude...

...I last played for him over 20 years ago, and I still get a birthday card, Christmas card and anniversary card from him each year. All of them are hand written and they mention my wife and kids by name.

The guy is one of a kind.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jul 29, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

On Sunday night

when they showed the pitching match-ups for the series, with us throwing Lilly, Z, Dempster, and Harden, Karl Ravech actually said that it lines up perfectly for the Brewers. One of the best 4-man rotations I’ve seen, and he gives the advantage to the Brewers.

by WartburgCub on Jul 29, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Showalter is right

Perceived chemistry is much more important than, say, team defense or or a bullpen.

Formerly NO100

by jerry morales rules on Jul 29, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Best?

Well, I gotta actually go with Len and Bob. I mean, at first, I didn’t love the guys, but now they’ve gotten into a groove—at this point, they BRING a LOT to every game, both in terms of insight and entertainment, and do so in a way that (while definitely slighted towards the Cubs) avoids too-much eggregious homer-ism.

In a totally selfish way, I’m hoping Brenly never gets offered a managerial job, just because I love listening to Brenly explain the game to Len, and Len call the action.

by Chadnudj on Jul 29, 2008 11:30 AM CDT reply actions  

I really enjoy

Len and Bob as well. As a kid, I used to listen to Ernie Harwell calling tigers games. I miss him alot.

by KZ Cubs Fan on Jul 29, 2008 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Brenly has gotten better the longer he's been in the booth...

seems to be more comfortable to be critical at times. I’ve grown to like his analysis. Len on the other hand, while good with the flow of the game and the banter with brenly, that pubescent voice crack during every big moment irritates me beyond measure.

The Red Sox tv guys, Remy and Orsillo are hysterical – as are the Giants guys.

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by Gibbon Jockey on Jul 29, 2008 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Kruk and Kuip

are great on the Giants broadcasts—they’re also pretty pro-Cub which makes them easier to listen to Of course, Krukow came up through the Cubs farm system and Kuiper is from Racine. They cheer for the Giants over the Cubs, of course, but you can tell they’re pulling for us when it doesn’t hurt the interests of the Giants.

I very much enjoy George Grande on the Reds broadcasts. The hellspawn they have doing the other half of the Reds games, not so much.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh Timmers on Jul 29, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hands down, Vin Scully...he's the play-by-play AND the color man...

...when Cubs play Dodgers I look for the west coast feed. He’s a walking encyclopedia of baseball history.

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Jul 29, 2008 11:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Get EI

Than you can listen to him every night. It is like you go back in time 50 years to what classic
baseball announcing should be.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 29, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, have it...but I'm usually watching the Cubs, and it's hard to stay up until 1 AM on the East Coast

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Jul 29, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

So I show up late for work

I am on the East Coast too and I am so addicted to baseball I would watch Rangers Vs
Mariners at 1.30 AM if it were the last game on.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 29, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wish I could do that...ahh, responsibility.

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Jul 29, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glad someone

agrees with me. Although boring isn’t my #1 criticism of Scully.

Still, he’s better than a lot of morons out there.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh Timmers on Jul 29, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Listen to Scully as I catch a fair amount of Dodger games living out here, but...

I respectfully disagree . I apologize if this is disrespectful to a legend, which I do consider him, but for me, the man makes baseball painful. His broadcasts are not interesting and are very dry. I would really like to see another in the booth, but I’m sure that would be met with extreme opinion.

by socalicubsfan on Jul 29, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, no offense taken...

...I don’t listen to him every day, I might change my opinion if that was the case. A second person might improve the broadcast.

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Jul 30, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I love Scully too. To me, that is the way that baseball should sound.

by slumpbuster17 on Jul 29, 2008 12:24 PM CDT reply actions  

i really dislike brenly, in case you didn't know

my favorite duo was chip and stoney…....i don’t know how anyone can say brenly knows more about baseball than stoney

by cubswynn on Jul 29, 2008 12:48 PM CDT reply actions  

chip?

what about his grandpa?

by nathew on Jul 29, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well..

I’m sure here that goes without saying. As the post says “Any other guys who are great but aren’t usually mentioned as being of the best?

by pickupman21 on Jul 29, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like them too...

I remember when Chip and Stoney left and Len and Bob came in, I just wasnt happy them two left. You know they both loved the Cubs and were just as excited as we were when the Cubs would win. Over the years I have grown to like Len and Bob. They are both good baseball guys and are genuine fans of the Cubs. I think in the first year maybe two they were just annoucers but now they are fans first and announcers second. As far as Len’s voice changes, I think it shows how excited he really is and he does have a good home run call. He mixes it up a little. Chip was always the same..Swung and belted.. it was great with his voice but always the same. Bob brings a great baseball mind to the booth. He wasnt the greatest player or manager but knows the ins and outs and gives he opinion with truth and is now not affraid to say if something wasnt either done right or the most effective. Altho I dont think he would ever question Lou’s or any other managers choices. He knows things are much different in the dug out then in the booth.

by pickupman21 on Jul 29, 2008 1:13 PM CDT reply actions  

i know what you're saying with len

i have finally come around on him, i really do like him…...i think the turning point was the aramis walkoff last year

by cubswynn on Jul 29, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like

the guy from the Mariners. “He Gone.” I notice lots of other announcers using that catch phrase.

by nks6911 on Jul 29, 2008 1:17 PM CDT reply actions  

One ESPN guy I like is

Orel Hershiser. He was a pitcher and a pitching coach. I like his comments and analysis on the pitchers in the game.

He was also one of my favorite non-Cub players when he played. It didn’t hurt that he helped me win a fantasy league during his great 1988 season. That was 20 years ago. I am getting old.

by rlpete on Jul 29, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions  

what ? no votes for Hawk Harrelson?

I live in LA and have become a bit of a Dodgers fan (except when they play the Cubs) because of Vin Scully. He’s one of the last of generation and getting up there in years, so I’m savoring it while I can.

"We're thinner than people think we are."- Lou Pinella

by tedinSoCal on Jul 29, 2008 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed...I always forget he does baseball...I'm so used to him on Inside the NFL highlights

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Jul 29, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kalas has slowed down some.

I heard him on EI earlier this year and was surprised at how old he sounded.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jul 29, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has slowed down

He missed 10 days this month because of surgery to repair a detached retina.

by PhillyCub on Jul 29, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know this is the "best" announcers...

but one guy I absolutely loathe listening to is Joe Buck, no matter the sport he is terrible.

As with the previous posters, I enjoy Scully, and maybe I was too young and I’m mistaken, but didn’t Al Michaels do baseball in the mid-late 80s?...Having fuzzy memories of that, but I enjoy anything Michaels does.

by jbertram on Jul 29, 2008 3:53 PM CDT reply actions  

He did...

He was also the play by play voice on “Hardball III” on the Sega Genesis / PC. It seems silly, but I think that’s the last “baseball” he has ever called.

"Whoever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" - Frank Chance

by STLCubFan on Jul 29, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd really like...

to hear what Jon Miller could do without the anchor that is Joe Morgan.

But I’m a Steve Stone guy through and through. There were few things more enjoyable in baseball than watching Stoney predict a pitch and then see it come true.

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Jul 29, 2008 4:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Very few things? Really?

Have you ever watched a game. Stoney is an arrogant ass. Hated him with the Cubs and hate him still. He first guess all the time ALL THE TIME—-the more he does it the more times he will be correct. Simple math.

IMO—-You can take Steve Stone and Dan Bernstein and fire them from anything to do with sports. They suck

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 29, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have a first-guesser

Than a second-guesser. Steve Stone pulled no punches. He was brutal and honest and the players hated it. I’m glad most of them are gone.

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Jul 29, 2008 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with ya

n/t

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jul 29, 2008 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great topic...

...I tend to lean towards the more traditional type play by play guys, but like a color guy that is knowledgable and has a bit of a sense of humor.

Also, I think there is a big difference between doing play by play on the radio and TV, as the radio guy has a much tougher job. I think Pat does a great job on the radio and I also liked Vince Lloyd a lot back in the day. Brenly is also growing on me because he knows what he is talking about, and I like his dry sense of humor.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jul 29, 2008 4:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Luis, if you have "Extra Innings"

Gary Thorne is the lead TV announcer for Orioles baseball on MASN. (Mid Atlantic Sports Network)

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 29, 2008 7:37 PM CDT reply actions  

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