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"Enough foreplay- let's get crackin'"- Fred Garvin

by davidalanu on Jul 3, 2008 7:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

worst first post ever.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 3, 2008 7:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1 Seriously.

Wow.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh, you're just saying that

"Enough foreplay- let's get crackin'"- Fred Garvin

by davidalanu on Jul 3, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the reply option...

is your friend.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 3, 2008 7:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

better, sir?

"Enough foreplay- let's get crackin'"- Fred Garvin

by davidalanu on Jul 3, 2008 7:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Much. :P

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

atta boy!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 3, 2008 7:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on Sean

We need a ground ball for the DP here.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JK

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's missing his spots...

looks like he’s overthrowing a little.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 3, 2008 7:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sean needs to have a good fifth.

...or maybe I’ll have one!

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 3, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gah.

Why’s Ascanio up?! Isn’t potential relief in the 5th ideal Lieber territory?!

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:27 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His last outing was solid!

And he’s good for an inning or two, unlike some of these other dudes who are like a lucky batter or two at best!

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and O/T

What on EARTH is that big fist thing they are doing in San Fran?! They keep showing shots of it and I is confused.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a cast replica of Bonds hands?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 3, 2008 7:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ha ha ha.

Roids can do crazy things to the hands if that’s the case.

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When they acquired Latroy Hawkins..

...they had to remind him that wasn’t a Giants outfielder’s glove.

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 3, 2008 8:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice job to get out of it Sean!

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

psssssst...hey guys

now would be a good time to start putting some runs on the board.

by sue369 on Jul 3, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep yep!

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 3, 2008 7:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rain delay in stl

heres hoping they get a nice long wet cold night

I hear Tony La Russa may bat the Pitcher spot cleanup

by jds2 on Jul 3, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've got a delay, what pitch

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh. nope. not a ball, then.

it’s not like it’d make the batter swing at empty air. and if he did, it’s still not a strike

by Shanghai Badger on Jul 3, 2008 7:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He definitely does.

I wish someone would get a close up on that.

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know how!!!

Anyone know how to capture an image off a TV? I can rewind to that point….

by crazymountain on Jul 3, 2008 7:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i beleive you can if you try to deceive the batter

then its a ball

I hear Tony La Russa may bat the Pitcher spot cleanup

by jds2 on Jul 3, 2008 7:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes, that is true

but if you break contact with the bases empty, no harm no foul

by Shanghai Badger on Jul 3, 2008 7:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But if you break contact when you are delivering the ball.....

what he is doing is pitching from a foot in front of the rubber.

by crazymountain on Jul 3, 2008 7:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it is the way he leverages his body.

the Cubs should give the film to the umps. it is hard to see it real time, but anyone would throw harder if they can pick up their back leg before they release the ball!

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 3, 2008 7:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rule 8.01(b)

“Comment: With no runners on base, the pitcher is not required to come to a complete stop when using the Set Position. If, however, in the umpire’s judgment, a pitcher delivers the ball in a deliberate effort to catch the batter off guard, this delivery shall be deemed a quick pitch, for which the penalty is a ball. See Rule 8.05(e) Comment.”

I hear Tony La Russa may bat the Pitcher spot cleanup

by jds2 on Jul 3, 2008 7:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah, I'm not sure what it is.

But it’s def not right.

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

90th ptich

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 3, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sweet!

Lead off double by Lee! Let’s go RAMI!!!!!!!!!!

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on Jimmay!!!!

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep!

:)

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's Geo time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not having a good game is he

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 3, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Poor Soto. :(

Agreed.

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hopefully he can learn from the mistakes he made in this series

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 3, 2008 7:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it is going to be real hard to

pick up the ball in another 10 minutes when that shadow crosses home plate. It would nice to score some runs this inning. Let’s go, DeRo!!

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 3, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

terrific! :-)

BTW, I met a guy the other day who played baseball with him at Penn (college) and the guy said DeRo was a great guy in college. No surprise.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 3, 2008 7:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i live in philly

and run into fans who have followed him – a guy at the Y always asks about him

when we went to the games here, he was one of the most popular players before the game

Win.

by RavenswoodRob on Jul 3, 2008 7:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BTW, I went to Penn too

Just a question, is Harkem (sp?) College still there?

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 3, 2008 7:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sorry, don't know

I’m Chicagoan by birth and a Temple (Tyler Art) guy by education – don’t know Harkem (sp?) – been here for 20 years but I don’t get out much….

Win.

by RavenswoodRob on Jul 3, 2008 7:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it was our old stomping ground for "dates"

30+ years ago when I was in college. Not a place we went for education. :-)

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 3, 2008 8:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dEro!

I heart the riot. (www.riotshirts.com)

by RIOTSHIRTS.com on Jul 3, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let’s drive him in and tie this up

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why would you swing @ the first pitch?

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 3, 2008 7:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because he lost some brain cells.....

musta been that “stomach flu” he had…....ummm, I’m not going farther with this thought as I think y’all can follow it…....

by crazymountain on Jul 3, 2008 7:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

clearly his high baseball IQ

I hear Tony La Russa may bat the Pitcher spot cleanup

by jds2 on Jul 3, 2008 7:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They were just getting to Timmy!

DeRo hit a pitch out of the zone, he decided if they are gonna call that high stuff, he’ll just tomahawk it.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 3, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

always good when your team scores to do that

by Shanghai Badger on Jul 3, 2008 7:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Outstanding job by Sean

if he’s in any deal for CC, they’d better be able to lock him up long term.

Dome-san!!

by Goat Whisperer on Jul 3, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You don't think they would change their minds

for the right deal? I don’t know, just wonderin’...

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 3, 2008 7:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree,

unless we include Soto—and I sure hope we don’t.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 3, 2008 8:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good pitching change by Lou.

As long as Wuertz has his slider tonight.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 3, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why again didn't they start at 1pm PCT

I hear Tony La Russa may bat the Pitcher spot cleanup

by jds2 on Jul 3, 2008 7:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The game had to be a day game, per the CBA,

because the Cubs are going east by 2 TZs. 5 pm local time is the day/night cut-off. So, the game had to start before 5 pm PDT, but the Giants didn’t want a “true” day game at 1 pm PDT.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 3, 2008 7:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

stupid...

MLB’s schedule has been really bad this year it seems…ex a one team west coast road trip

I hear Tony La Russa may bat the Pitcher spot cleanup

by jds2 on Jul 3, 2008 7:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's go Cubbies! We need some runs!

Bust this game open!!!

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:51 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll second that!

That big red head needs to get into one!

by TXCubsFan on Jul 3, 2008 7:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SF - Cubs Games

Hi—just got back and (for what it’s worth) wanted to give a brief report on the 3 SF nite games I went to. A lot of Cubs fans on BART, at the ballpark, everywhere. Sat in their “view level” behind home. Good natured Giant fans overall and most didnt really seem all that upset when we took over the park at times. A wave try by SF fans last nite was disappointing, but oh well. Lots of expensive beer, garlic fries, etc.

Funny Santo story. KNBR is the Giants flagship station and sports talk radio. Before today’s game, they had a “Sound Like Santo” contest. Included some of Ronnie’s classic “oooooh no”, “gee whiz”, etc. It was poking fun, but not mean spirited and kinda fun. Many Cub fans competed but first place went to a 9-year old girl.

Three out of four would be nice.

by West Coast Diehard on Jul 3, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

7th inning

Isn’t the 7th inning our highest scoring inning? GO CUBS!

by TXCubsFan on Jul 3, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tell him what he's won, Johnny!

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 3, 2008 7:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Question.....

If a player is announced as a pinch hitter but is pulled before he bats, does that count as an “appearence” in a game?

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Jul 3, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes

I hear Tony La Russa may bat the Pitcher spot cleanup

by jds2 on Jul 3, 2008 7:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but...

not sure if it counts for an apperance if fontenot’s stats

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by jds2 on Jul 3, 2008 7:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks!

I always think of these silly questions when watching games.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Jul 3, 2008 7:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but if Cal Ripkin did that during his streak

would that game have counted as an actual appearance or game played?

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 3, 2008 7:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ignore my snark.

The official rule:

“A consecutive game playing streak shall be extended if the player plays one half inning on defense, or if he completes a time at bat by reaching base or being put out. A pinch running appearance only shall not extend the streak. If a player is ejected from a game by an umpire before he can comply with the requirements of this rule, his streak shall continue.”

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jul 3, 2008 7:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marmol is warming up in bullpen pat just said

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 3, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

3-0 Mets

2nd RBI infield single of the inning

by Shanghai Badger on Jul 3, 2008 7:56 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how long untill larussa goes to the 5th infeilder?

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by jds2 on Jul 3, 2008 7:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't bring myself to think of it as the Mets winning...

I can only think of it as the Cards losing

not “Go Mets!”, but “No Cards!”

Win.

by RavenswoodRob on Jul 3, 2008 7:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Please bring Matty home.

Don’t leave him out there.

by sue369 on Jul 3, 2008 7:59 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 8:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agree

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 3, 2008 8:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh no, not Mr. HBP :(

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:59 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This dude is a menace, he makes me nervous

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 7:59 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FDome

nice AB…productive out…love to see that rub off on the younger players

I hear Tony La Russa may bat the Pitcher spot cleanup

by jds2 on Jul 3, 2008 8:00 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

D'oh!

Stupid Yabu…

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 3, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

:(

We’ll get them next inning with Rami, Edmonds and Soto.

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope so!

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 8:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Must be saving

more runs for the last two innings. :-(

by sue369 on Jul 3, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sounds good to me

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 3, 2008 8:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

D-Lee: Mr. choke

Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak

by ARAM FOR MVP on Jul 3, 2008 8:06 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

-40

My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
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by Unique on Jul 3, 2008 8:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

-60

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 3, 2008 8:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd suggest something but Al might not like my answer

lol

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 3, 2008 8:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I figured that would make my point just as well as something Al might not like

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 3, 2008 8:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First you get the fifth.....

open wide, guzzle…...

Then you get up off the floor…...

by crazymountain on Jul 3, 2008 8:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really don't care about talking them off the ledge.

I just want to figure out what source of information is feeding people this kind of bullcrap. It’s the damnedable lies that bother me.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Jul 3, 2008 8:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh jeez. :(

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 8:07 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ugh.....

I guess Ascanio doesn’t know to let Geo have that one

by crazymountain on Jul 3, 2008 8:07 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why throw that?

Only bad things happen when you make throws like that.

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 3, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What happened with the throw?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 3, 2008 8:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Got away, runner to 3rd on the Error

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 3, 2008 8:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactamundo

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 3, 2008 8:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What up fonzie?

Except for being pissed about Carlos giving up the 3-run bomb?

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 3, 2008 8:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's go Marmol!!!!!

This is the time he kicks out of it, I can feel it.

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

isnt this what happened last night?

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 3, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Um..........

Words fail me.

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 3, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ouch

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 3, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what the hell

he’s done

"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"

by lostinthevines on Jul 3, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

okay. pull him.

seriously, wow. :(

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What's Marmol velocity?

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by Unique on Jul 3, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Terminal

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 3, 2008 8:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was low 80s

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 8:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

on his fastball that is.

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by Unique on Jul 3, 2008 8:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dont' think he threw a fastball.

3 sliders, one that missed really badly.

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 8:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He'll be back.

Just not today.

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 8:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What was wrong with today?

Or any other day for that metter? The Cards are coming fast; we can’t lose ground. Straighten your shit out or ride the pine

"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"

by lostinthevines on Jul 3, 2008 8:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He'll figure it out.

God, he’s probably as freaked about this as we are right now. He’s got to just get out and throw and make it work again.

I believe in the pitching coach staff to be able to make that happen.

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 8:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn

Glad I didnt stay in the City for this game---unless of course we make an Arizona like comback.

by West Coast Diehard on Jul 3, 2008 8:13 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

uh-oh

If Aurillia homers off you, you are in trouble

by Shanghai Badger on Jul 3, 2008 8:13 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Someone wrote last night

that he/she was now scared whenever he started to warm up. I am also officially scared whenever he appears.

by wsunick on Jul 3, 2008 8:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

arghhhh

wtf is wrong with him?

Before Edmonds: 24-16, (.600); With Edmonds: 26-18 (.591)
Edmonds with Cubs: .282 / .370 / .563

by joeschmitt on Jul 3, 2008 8:13 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JMO

There are reports that scouts are saying he’s lost something due to overuse. I read the same thing last October. Once a reliever’s arm is “dead”, it’s tough to recharge him during the season.

I’m wondering if being shut down entirely for 2-3 weeks might help him.

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by DeRoMyHero on Jul 3, 2008 8:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I've heard that

all the talk about him maybe going to the ASG has made him lose focus. We will probably never know.

by sue369 on Jul 3, 2008 8:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That may be true....

like the “dead arm” syndrome early in the year?

by crazymountain on Jul 3, 2008 8:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BB said it could be him tipping pitches...no way.

He is falling behind and becoming predictable. AND his fastball is no longer lively as he is over-throwing. His fastball flattens out. Same thing happens to Z when he over throws. Marmol is anxious and over-throwing because he can’t find the strike zone. With some intelligent help, he can work through this.

Our problem is we have a pitching coach who can not fix him!

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 3, 2008 8:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree that he (Marmol) will work through it

I just think with a better pitching coach, this problem would be solved faster.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 3, 2008 8:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The human body is not designed to...

...consistently repeating a movement or set of motions. Players get hot and players get cold. It doesn’t always mean something – it could just be a stretch where a player’s “stuff” is off, or it could just be luck. There may be nothing to fix. He’s not a pitching machine.

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by cwyers on Jul 3, 2008 8:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, he's going to get a week for the ASG anyway

Hopefully we won’t need him in StL and he can come back more fresh after the ASG

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 8:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What if it's not his delivery?

Maybe he’s got a “tell.” Someone figured him out.

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by Goodie1969 on Jul 3, 2008 8:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nah

he’s wild. He’s hitting people and missing the plate then overcompensating by throwing fat over the middle. It’s not a tell, any pitcher pitching that way would be in trouble.

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 8:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah I suppose that's true

I wish it was something easy though. Darn it all!

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by Goodie1969 on Jul 3, 2008 8:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is what we were talking about in the thread

this afternoon. He misses with two sliders so they know that the fastball is coming and then he gets it up and they blow it out of the park.
ARGH!

by wsunick on Jul 3, 2008 8:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This really comes down to the teacher.

A ton of our guys can never fix things, and I think that leads to the pitching coach..

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by ARAM FOR MVP on Jul 3, 2008 8:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm sure Dave Duncan

would have had him straightened out by now.

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by LAcarl519 on Jul 3, 2008 8:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I heard Plesac talking about it

Supposedly it is a 2 step process they are going through. I guess they fixed the mechanics, now they are going after the location. Up and over the middle I am guessing is not where they planned.

by louslovechild on Jul 3, 2008 8:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here's a question

Why was Ascanio still in to start the inning in a one-run game?

Didn’t notice right away b/c on the phone.

by Shanghai Badger on Jul 3, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed.

I’d have put lieber in there.

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 8:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

b/c Lieber is invisable to Lou?

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 3, 2008 8:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 8:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's light up this bullpen!

Rami, Edmonds and Soto, couldn’t ask for more, let’s get it done!!!

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 8:21 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Question...

Why waste Cotts in a mop-up role if he is our only LHP in the ‘pen and the Cards have a lot of LHBs?

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by DeRoMyHero on Jul 3, 2008 8:22 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Perhaps Lou will remember that Lieber exists,

and is, you know, on the roster?

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by slcathena on Jul 3, 2008 8:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he might

he likes to use the long reliever for one inning…

by Shanghai Badger on Jul 3, 2008 8:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

40,111 attendence today

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by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 3, 2008 8:24 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs