Outnumbered: Cubs 7, Brewers 2
by Al on Jul 31, 2008 8:16 AM CDT
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MILWAUKEE -- We had 'em outnumbered at Miller Park last night, or nearly so.
At least it felt as if there were more Cubs fans than Brewers fans last night during the Cubs' 7-2 win over Milwaukee, the team's fourth victory in a row, moving their division lead back to a more comfortable four games and matching the season high by getting to 20 games over .500.
The Cubs were on base seemingly everywhere, all night long. In fact, they could have scored far more than the seven runs they did; they had 23 baserunners (14 hits, 8 walks and Reed Johnson reaching on a dropped third strike); fifteen of them were left on base and Ryan Theriot was caught stealing, which accounts for the seven runs.
That caught stealing was just about the only thing Theriot did wrong last night. He made a couple of nice plays in the field and had three hits and three RBI, including what was probably the biggest Cub hit of the game, a triple into the right-center field gap that Corey Hart got a really bad read on that drove in two runs in the Cubs' three-run sixth, the inning that broke open what had been a pretty good pitchers' duel between Ryan Dempster and Manny Parra up to that point.
Dempster, as he has been in virtually all his starts this year, was outstanding, mixing up his pitches well and making really only one mistake -- throwing a wild pitch with Ray Durham on third base in the first inning, allowing the Brewers to score the only run they'd get until Prince Fielder homered off Neal Cotts for a consolation run in the 9th. Other than that, Dempster allowed only four other hits, and two of them were extra-base rockets by Parra, who isn't really known as a hitter (he was hitting .179 coming into last night's game).
If Dempster keeps this up he'll get some Cy Young consideration -- and no, I don't think that's hype. Only three pitchers -- Brandon Webb, Edinson Volquez and Aaron Cook -- have won more games; Dempster ranks sixth in ERA, eighth in strikeouts, and has the fifth-lowest WHIP of any NL pitcher currently qualified (with 108 innings or more). Of course, Carlos Zambrano is among the leaders in those categories as well and both Dempster and Z should get Cy Young votes. I wasn't one of those who thought the Dempster-back-to-starter experiment was going to work, but now, exactly two-thirds of the way through this so-far wonderful season, it has been an unqualified success, and is one of the reasons this team has played so well.
In addition to Johnson and Dempster, Alfonso Soriano was one of the "stars of the game" last night, with three hits and a stolen base; he appears to be running well, perhaps for the first time since that first injury with the Cubs on April 17 of last year. The forced rest for his legs for six weeks while his broken finger healed was apparently a very good thing; Soriano stole third base last night (foolishly, I thought at the time, as ball four was being delivered to Derrek Lee, but he made it) and seemed to be running the bases much better the other four times he was on, five times on base in all via three hits and two walks; the Cubs drew eight walks and forced five Brewer pitchers to throw 190 pitches.
I ran into BCB reader hoppy91 in the Metavante Club, where I went to eat before the game. That's amazing -- naming rights sold off for a team's club eating area -- up to this year it was called the ".300 Club"; there are tons of ads all over Miller Park. I counted, in addition to the ribbon board and other "moving" ads, thirty different fixed ads in the outfield. Anyway, hoppy99 is in Milwaukee for this series from Manitoba, Canada, and made it on ESPN's telecast wearing the BCB shirt. Also had a talk with BCB reader Shanghai Badger, who stopped by my seat in section 225 before last night's game.
As noted above, the crowd seemed to be more than half Cubs fans; maybe that was because I was looking for them or maybe because Brewer fans had little to cheer about last night; starting after the 7th inning, the place started to empty out and after the Cubs' two-run 9th that put the game away, virtually everyone left was wearing Cubs blue. Loud cheers erupted on the ramps exiting the park; I doubt any of us could have imagined that the first three games of this series would go so well.
Only one discordant note -- Kerry Wood was going to throw a simulated game yesterday, but didn't and is not "close" to returning. And if you read Lou Piniella's typically cryptic quotes in that link, you'll be even more confused:
"Initially, they had talked about a simulated game, bringing a few hitters here, and let him get some work in with a pad on his finger," Cubs manager Lou Piniella said. "That didn't happen, because he's really not close to coming back, so why risk it?"
Not close?
"When I say 'not close,' it's not imminently close," Piniella said.
Fortunately, the rest of the bullpen has picked up the slack; Chad Gaudin, who threw another scoreless inning last night, has been excellent and can step right in to an 8th inning setup role, which is where he pitched last night. Both Jeff Samardzija and Carlos Marmol got last night off and so are available today.
Rich Harden, who has pitched extremely well in his three starts as a Cub without a victory to his own credit yet, goes today. He has struck out ten in each of the three games -- 30 in all in 17.1 innings, with only eight hits and eight walks allowed for an ERA of 1.04 and a WHIP of 0.92. Some SABR research has found that only one pitcher -- Jake Peavy from April 25-May 11, 2007 -- has struck out ten or more in four straight starts in the last four years (both Randy Johnson and Johan Santana did this in 2004). But more importantly, let's get Harden a win. The pregame thread will be up at 11:30 CT.
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by Trey2317 on Jul 31, 2008 8:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Door closes at 1:00pm for a 'strategy session'.....
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by iluvryno on Jul 31, 2008 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MrCubsfan and I have an appointment
with the Miller brothers. could be a long meeting – might take all afternoon.
Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!
by Ihatethecards on Jul 31, 2008 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually have a sales call...
...at a Des Moines bar. It’s a legit sales call that my boss knows about, but it might take a while.
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by IowaCubs- on Jul 31, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a big deal
but all the recaps I read said that Wood did NOT throw a sim game (in fact it says so in your quote box).
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Jul 31, 2008 8:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That was how I understood it as well
That Kerry Wood did not throw a simulated game.
by adam316 on Jul 31, 2008 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I misread the article...
... missed the words “did not”. I’ll fix the post.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 31, 2008 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Won't do a fanpost on this
(don’t want Josh77 to tell me it’s not worthy), but if you’re inside Harden’s head this morning…what are you hearing?
1) They’ve scored a bunch of runs the last few games, I’ll get 2
2) No way the Brewers let us sweep
3) We beat their ‘new ringer….they’ll really want to beat the Cubs ‘new ringer’
4) I could be the luckiest unluckiest guy in the world right now
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by iluvryno on Jul 31, 2008 8:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a big league pitcher, so I don't know...
...but it seems to me that someone in Harden’s situation the last few games can’t do much else to control whether or not he gets the W. Beyond giving up 2 or 3 ER, striking out everyone in sight, and being down right filthy, what else can he do? I doubt he’s thinking “I’m way too unlucky” or “They’re only gonna get me two runs of support this afternooon”.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jul 31, 2008 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can do something else
Pitch more innings.
The reason Kerry Wood never got more than 14 wins in any season as a starter was that he couldn’t consistently go deep into games because of high pitch counts.
That aside, Harden has of course been lights out. If he remains healthy he elevates this rotation to a whole other level.
by Luis on Jul 31, 2008 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's wrong about Wood.
As I noted the other day, in 2002 Wood left seven games in the 7th inning or later with the lead; he could have had 19 wins that year if not for the Cubs’ bad bullpen.
Harden would have had a win already if the bullpen hadn’t blown the first game he pitched here. TEAM wins are what’s important.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 31, 2008 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, we agree, mostly
Team wins are what’s important, although personal wins give pitchers confidence (remember Matt Clement’s very bad luck in the beginning of 2004? I think it did affect him mentally and the team seemed to press more offensively when he started).
Your comments about Wood are right, but I don’t agree with your overall assessment. Yes, a better bullpen would have gotten him more personal wins, but the reality was that he had very high pitch counts the majority of his starts and had to be at the mercy of the bullpen.
by Luis on Jul 31, 2008 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
This is about the value of “pitcher confidence” vs “team wins”? I think this is a no-brainer.
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by dtpollitt on Jul 31, 2008 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geez
You are not interpreting my words correctly. Team wins are what matter, but personal wins bring about more confidence and peace of mind, which in turn result in even more team wins. Ok?
by Luis on Jul 31, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personal wins also
Bring more dollars to the paycheck. Never forget that.
It would be nice if GMs and Owners said, “Yeah, but you had team wins,” but the fact is, W-L is still the hammer owners will drop on a pitcher when they don’t want to pay him.
And the Cubs GOT Hardin knowing that he might not make it past the 5th or 6th in a lot of games.
Pluto will always be a planet to me!
by DaBard on Jul 31, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But...
... remember, I said he went into or past the SEVENTH inning several times, only to have the bullpen blow leads. So your statement that he wasn’t getting deep into games isn’t correct.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 31, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you have the stats handy?
Pitching into the seventh can mean only 6IP which is not a lot, or it can mean going into the 9th and pitching 8+ innings. Big difference. Plus, it would be interesting to see how he ranked in terms of IP per start.
by Luis on Jul 31, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go here...
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/gamelog?statsId=5982&year=2002
I’ll give a brief synopsis: Wood pitched six games of at least 7IP and two runs or less and didn’t get the win (sometimes got the loss). He had another three starts in which he pitched at least 7IP, gave up only three runs, and didn’t get the win.
Wood was 12th in the NL in IP in 2002, and most of those guys ahead of him threw 2-3 more starts. So going deep into games was NOT the reason he didn’t win more than 12 games in 2002.
by SouthernCub on Jul 31, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the info
I’m trying to find a site that ranks the players for innings pitched per start but have had no luck. ESPN doesn’t have it even in the expanded zone.
Perhaps you guys are right. I’ll reserve my final judgment until I have the info for this stat. It’s my opinion that Wood pitched less innings per start than other guys who had comparable ERA (most guys don’t pitch a lot of innings because they suck).
by Luis on Jul 31, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wood pitched as many innings per start...
as almost anyone in the NL that year. That’s why I gave you the rankings of IP and clarified with the fact that most of the guys with more innings also had more starts. Wood had 213.2 IP in 33 starts (6.47 IP/G). Guys ahead of him included:
Ortiz: 214/33 (6.48)
Hernandez: 216/33 (6.55)
Sheets: 216/34 (6.35)
Millwood: 217/34 (6.38)
Nomo: 220/34 (6.47)
Perez: 222.1/32 (6.95)
Glavine: 224.1/36 (6.24)
Vazquez: 230/34 (6.76)
Only the top 4 in IP and Vazquez and Perez had significantly more IP per start. Wood was as good or better in IP/start than all but six pitchers in the NL that year. So as I said, Wood’s lack of wins had nothing to do with not being able to pitch as deep into games as most starters.
by SouthernCub on Jul 31, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh.
This is just being greedy. We know the guy’s history. He’s thrown 17+ IP in 3 games, which isn’t bad by any standard. I’ll take his 5 or 6 innings NOW to have him for 7 or 8 LATER.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jul 31, 2008 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heck
we have the Shark AND White Castle in the pen and available. Let Harden go 6, Marshal can pitch the 7th, Shark can pitch the 8th, and Marmol can close it out.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd let Marshall go two.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
I’m good with that too.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2008 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or
Cubs go up 8 in the first half of the game, Harden gets lifted after 5 and Sean Marshall gets a 4 inning save.
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on Jul 31, 2008 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They way the last two games have gone
that wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BCBers are brimming with confidence!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 31, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A confident Cub fan in August.
Whodathunkit?
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Feels strange.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 31, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually....
It’s Still July
Kasey
See the Cubs 2008 schedule (with TV schedule & game-by-game results) at http://ignarski.tripod.com/sched2008.html
by kaseyi on Jul 31, 2008 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not in Auckland, New Zealand.
Besides, even if the Cubs are blown out 37 – -3 I’d say we’ll all still be pretty confident.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will be pleased
if we win this game, but I’m not going to be crushed if we don’t.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your In NZ???
I must have missed that. My sister lives in Havelock North.
Kasey
See the Cubs 2008 schedule (with TV schedule & game-by-game results) at http://ignarski.tripod.com/sched2008.html
by kaseyi on Jul 31, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for using common sense.
I also agree “Fanposts” are way out of hand. They really should have a compelling subject that leads to a long thread of responses. They shouldn’t be ‘throwaway’ thoughts. All we could do here is ‘+1.’ There’s nothing wrong with that. The fan posts turn over too quickly—so what’s the reason to write something thoughtful if only 10 people get a chance to see it?
This fits perfectly in a pre-game thread.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 31, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's get Harden a win today!!!
I have a feeling Lou will be resting a lot of players. May be interesting lineup.
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
by Cubster on Jul 31, 2008 8:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Lou let's up here
sweeping the Brewers, at Miller, when coming in cold and only 1 game up would be too much of a momentum builder.
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by iluvryno on Jul 31, 2008 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For one thing...
... Soto’s back in the lineup today after resting last night.
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by Al on Jul 31, 2008 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the girls are happy about that!
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
by Emelie on Jul 31, 2008 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what about the guys?
I can man crush too, and I’m totally comfortable with myself saying that.
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by IowaCubs- on Jul 31, 2008 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the bigger the fan club, the better ;-D
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
by Emelie on Jul 31, 2008 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soto does some serious eyebrow waxing
Very metro.
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
by SouthsideCub on Jul 31, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I much prefer Soto's eyebrows
to Edmonds eye liner
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
by Emelie on Jul 31, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soto wears
eyeliner too. At least in the off season he does.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 31, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good morning everyone!!!
It’s a great day, Cubs going for 5 wins in a row, and a 4-game sweep of the Brew Crew!!! Da DaDada ta- I’m lovin’ it!
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 31, 2008 8:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just gave you a high five...
...with Big Mac special sauce on my hand.
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by IowaCubs- on Jul 31, 2008 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Morning Jimmy.
Hope it’s another great day for the Cubs.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 31, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I admit...
...I haven’t taken Dempster very “seriously” this year. I thought his first have was a pleasant surprise, and it was nice to see him working his butt off for the transition. Now I think it’s quite clear he’s more than quite worthy of serious Cy discussion.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jul 31, 2008 8:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I was telling a friend of mine last night that even with the first half Dempster had, I still got worried everytime he took the mound. Not anymore!! Dempster is putting together a season that no one could have expected he would.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 31, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes...
let’s get Harden a win, the way he’s been pitching, he most certainly deserves it. I am giddy this am with the way we have handed it to the brewers. Go Cubs!
You ARE freaking out MAN!
by crw89 on Jul 31, 2008 8:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not only do we need to get him a win
we need to score double digit runs to make up for the shortcomings previously
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 31, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for that!
You ARE freaking out MAN!
by crw89 on Jul 31, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will trade Rich Harden strikeouts for more innings pitched today
How about we get 7IP and 7K’s today.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jul 31, 2008 8:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And fewer runs allowed than the Cubs score.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 31, 2008 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll trade Harden's regular season innings
for more post-season innings every day. The Cubs are handling him well.
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on Jul 31, 2008 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or... how about the bullpen and offense
Does their freaking jobs for once when he pitches.
Pluto will always be a planet to me!
by DaBard on Jul 31, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I just hope the bats don’t go cold today. They’ve been on fire lately.
by McRipper on Jul 31, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have travelled nicely!
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 31, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed they have!
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
by Emelie on Jul 31, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade Deadline Predictions for the Cubs??
My prediction for the Cubs Trade Deadline:
Nothing.
I think we might need another bullpen arm, and if we add anything, I hope that’s what we’re after. Will Ohman anyone?
Anyone else have any thoughts?
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by IowaCubs- on Jul 31, 2008 8:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Channelling MDBNIU...
As I feel like I’ve posted this many times in the last few days…
RON MAHAY!
“Get ‘er done, Jimbo”
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Jul 31, 2008 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I'm being too greedy...
LaTroy Hawkins was DFA’d by the Yankees… Could be a cheap alternative, but I’m not sure who we’d replace on the roster to make room for him.
Maybe I’ll just sit back and listen today instead of playing GM.
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by IowaCubs- on Jul 31, 2008 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No thanks to LaToya.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 31, 2008 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read that the Astros have already picked up LaTroy
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Jul 31, 2008 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't he just traded to the Astros?
Or was that a rumor?
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on Jul 31, 2008 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
Factual. For a Low-A prospect.
Why does Houston continue to take on salary? The mind boggles.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Jul 31, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huston's movements
make no sense at all. They should be selling right now
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 31, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you remember LaTroy Hawkins?
I’m not sure he wants to come back, even if he is from Gary.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jul 31, 2008 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Traded to the Astros yesterday
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jul 31, 2008 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. No. And NO to LaTroy
I’d rather have a root canal with no anesthesia than have him back to skulk around Wrigley
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
by cubnational on Jul 31, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 31, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good lord no
Hawkins was bust here and he’ll be a bust wherever he goes.
He has the toughness of a wet paper towel and is about as smart.
If Hendry goes after Hawkins, you know he hates Lou and is trying to give him a stroke.
Pluto will always be a planet to me!
by DaBard on Jul 31, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he won't.
Hawkins is an Astro. This is good news for the Cubs, since they’ll be able to face him next week.
I just don’t understand Ed Wade and his moves—he did them as if the Astros are contending, which they are not.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 31, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
how much influence Drayton McLane is having over these moves. Though I don’t think Ed Wade is a good GM, I could see McLane insisting they could make a run like they used to back in years of the Killer B’s.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jul 31, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
David DeJesus
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on Jul 31, 2008 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great Sig DGU, but I am pretty confident you got Darren Baker by a long shot!
"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08
by JB 23 on Jul 31, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure that, if nothing else...
He knows not to stray into the path of a MLB player hauling ashes for home plate… :)
by Slim1256 on Jul 31, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh no.
Darren Baker has done things on the field of play that I will never even approach doing. I’d be a horrible bat boy, always distracted by the game, and an even worse human shield in press conferences.
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on Jul 31, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Human shield...
Brilliant.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2008 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scott Downs
The author of this post is not a certified scout, doctor, agent, statistician, manager, or journalist, nor was he ever a very good player, though he tried very hard to be like Ryne Sandberg and was about as scappy as it gets (in T-ball). Any opinion expressed above should in no way be confused with fact, truth, or reality and is hereby qualified in the following ways: 1) The author does not know as much about baseball as Lou Piniella. 2) The author does not know as much about baseball as Jim Hendry. 3) The author does not know as much about baseball as either Dusty or Darren Baker.
by DGU on Jul 31, 2008 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last night on the Idiot network Buster Olney actually
said that Ohman was one of the hottest properties out there. I just about fell off my chair.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 31, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take him...
over Eyre, Pignatello, etc. He’s a funny dude.
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
by IowaCubs- on Jul 31, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think the team would welcome him back
after he hung the trainers out to try last year
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 31, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely not...
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 31, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My prediction?
Pain…
(for the rest of the National League, as the Cubs run away in August with a ton of home games)
by Chadnudj on Jul 31, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
classic line from Rocky 28 or something??????
The brewers, the brewers are no challange, but we will be happy to beat up on them for a while
Let go cubs
by cubsfaninkc on Jul 31, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Brewers are no challenge????
Um, the Cubs are 5-4 against them. Not exactly dominant. Four days ago, the Cubs were looking at the very real possibility of being a game out and facing Sabathia and Sheets. I highly doubt you would have posted something like that then.
Enjoy the ride, but try to maintain perspective.
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 31, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yabbut...
... all four of the losses were in April, when the Cubs weren’t playing as well as they are now. Plus, one of them was a spectacular blown save by Wood. The Cubs could easily be 6-3 or 7-2 vs. Milwaukee.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 31, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wood had help with that blown save, btw
Two catchable fly balls didn’t get caught
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 31, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
never mind . . . my reading comprehension error.
missed the rocky bit
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 31, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They shoulda NEVER came back
We gotta lotta mo’
by JCD on Jul 31, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the Rocky III reference...
Except Clubber lost that fight… :(
Pluto will always be a planet to me!
by DaBard on Jul 31, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Attention anyone in Europe
Note that (ESPN-owned) NASN will be airing the NEXT THREE Cubs games live starting today. If you don’t have NASN yet but you have a digital satellite dish and decoder, or subscribe to a digital cable service, you may be able to subscribe to it before today’s game. NASN is also available to the US armed forces on base via Cablecom.
To anyone on vacation in Europe: various bars and hotels also subscribe to the channel.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Jul 31, 2008 8:35 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Will be watching.
Just about to cycle home from work :)
by Stan Cox on Jul 31, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I too am heading home from work
but in a less eco-friendly manner.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Jul 31, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the info..
I hope all our Cub fan servicemen and vacationers get to see the games!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 31, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Usually we get a Cubs game maybe once a month
this is a real bonanza.
(Of course I watch all the other day games on the computer – but it’s not quite the same…)
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Jul 31, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al... Tells us again how we can get a BCB shirt
I saw it last night in the first inning on National TV. Looked good.
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
by Cubster on Jul 31, 2008 8:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Strange Cargo
HERE ONLINE Or at the store in person.
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on Jul 31, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for the linkage.
Reminder, $8 from every shirt purchase goes to Derrek Lee’s Project 3000. Have already sent almost $500 to them on behalf of BCB.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 31, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Day Game! Day Game!
the way baseball should be played. Ahhhhh…
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2008 8:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1111111111111111111111
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Jul 31, 2008 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my productivity, which was already low
is sinking to new depths today, i believe.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jul 31, 2008 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here here.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Day game in a park with a big slide that a fat mascot slides down.
-1
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Jul 31, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jimmay!
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes yes yes!
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
by Emelie on Jul 31, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll hava
what she’s having.
Wait! I am! DAY GAME BASEBALL!
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2008 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's fitting
that in one game we could:
-get Rich Harden his first well-deserved win
-get to 21 games over .500 for the first time all season
-sweep the Brewers in Miller Park and put them 5 games back
And even if that happens, we’ll still be behind Favre, Manny, and God knows whatever else on SportsCenter.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 8:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
fly under the radar
big deal. wait for the spotlight that is october.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jul 31, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
It’s just ridiculous the amount of coverage they get. It’s like turning a child’s storybook into a 1000-page novel.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those two stories ahve gone to the absurd
even for ESPN. Although you must admit, for Green Bay to offer Brett $20M to sit on his ass in Mississippi, is pretty interesting. Stupid, but interesting.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 31, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'll take $20 million to leave indianapolis
and sit on my hind quarters in mississippi and ride around on a snapper lawnmower
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jul 31, 2008 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The cheeseheads never cease to amaze.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 31, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would you leave our fair city????
Potholes! Victory Field! The Pacers!
Ok, so one of those things is good.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Jul 31, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which one?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 31, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm scratching my head, too.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Victory Field is great.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Jul 31, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right
if i lived on the near east side, then i’d take the $20 million
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jul 31, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Might be worth not being the 20th murder in 20 days.
Or whatever we’re up to now.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Jul 31, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i stopped keeping track
at 17 in 14 days. whereabouts in the city are you?
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jul 31, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grew up on the east side, then lived on the west side for 3 years.
I’ve lived 40 minutes west for 2 months now…I still claim Indianapolis though. Wouldn’t you?
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Jul 31, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
definitely.
since there’s not much else to claim, unless you want to associate with plainfield or brownsburg. personally, as an elitist cathedral graduate, i wouldn’t.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jul 31, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha...
I forgot you’re Jake Fox’s classmate.
I went to Greenfield-Central, I believe a couple of my HS buddies had a hand in beating you all when you were #1 or #2 in the state back in 2001 or so.
Ah, glory days.
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Jul 31, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, i'm sure
i played travel ball with a couple guys from GC – they were good guys. yeah, they knocked us off in the regular season in 2001, then we beat them in the regional final that year when we won state.
good times.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jul 31, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would make a snide harry potter comment...
but those are good books. yes, i agree, ESPN is annoying. it’s why i don’t watch as much as i did when i was younger.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jul 31, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not kid's books....
...Harry Potter is just plain-old great LITERATURE. Don’t make me transfigure you into a teacup.
by Chadnudj on Jul 31, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
please don't.
i enjoy the books. even with the last name of potter, i haven’t found it in my heart to hate the series.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jul 31, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did someone say...
...Harry Potter?!
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jul 31, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
Championship rings aren’t bigger or shinier because ESPN covers the team.
Pluto will always be a planet to me!
by DaBard on Jul 31, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget the X Games!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 31, 2008 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never gonna happen
I mean Harden could throw a complete perfect came on 70 pitches an Favre and Manny
are STILL gonna be the top Sports Center stories
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 31, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heard Rick Sutcliffe say about Kerry on ESPN cast ..
last night that he felt Wood wasn’t anywhere close to coming back after shaking his hand yesterday, apparently, he looked at the blister and knew intuitively what he saw
.. and Sutcliffe, after Gammons, is about the only guy I think I’d put any stock into what he says there on that looney bin network ..
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
by cubnational on Jul 31, 2008 9:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
big mistake
this experiment is not worth a single Cubs loss.
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on Jul 31, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, this:
“He threw with a protective pad on [the index finger] for a while and it felt OK,” Piniella said. “Then he took it off and tried to throw without it, and he couldn’t.”
is Not Good. Marmol’s the primary closer, but if he threw three games in a row, and we needed a closer, I’d feel VERY comfortable throwing the Shark out there.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto.
We’re fortunate that our backups would become immediate closers on any number of clubs.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As an ND alum, I love the Shark, but he can't be relied on to be the closer.
He’s pitched all of five innings in MLB so far. He’s got great stuff, great charisma and confidence, ie, all the tools to be a good MLB pitcher.
The one thing he doesn’t have is experience. I think it’s great he’s done what he’s done, but it’s going to be a while I think we can be confident with him.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 31, 2008 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the confidence will come with innings.
With Woody out for the forseeable future it’s good to get Shark into ninth-inning situations with the team up four runs or so. If today goes like the last two games I would love to see him in the ninth again. If things go bad Lou’s always got Marmol to come in.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, this move is temporary.
When Wood comes back Samardzija goes back to setting up.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 31, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Innings there, too.
Plus a safety net.
Good news all around.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree too.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 31, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
says lou
“Why not?” Piniella said Monday.
by brian custer on Jul 31, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN Rumor
Lohse on the trading block? Pretty bold move I would say.
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on Jul 31, 2008 9:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bold, but could make sense for them...
if they can get a bat and a bullpen arm for Lohse and prospect(s), it could work. They probably won’t resign Lohse in the offseason anyway. And getting Carpenter and (eventually) Wainright back means they have some flexibility in the rotation, assuming they’re confident in Wellemeyer, Looper, and Pineiro.
I have trouble seeing how a contender would be willing to trade an MLB ready bat and a bullpen arm for Lohse though. Seems like they’d want to keep MLB assets for the playoff push. Of course the Tigers and Yankees swapped MLB assets, so who knows?
by SouthernCub on Jul 31, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus Lohse
doesn’t have a track record for being this good. I think the Cardinals just want to get rid of him while his stock is high because its got no where to go but down. He hasn’t been an above-average pitcher before, and certainly never this good.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/lohseky01.shtml
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 31, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ascension unto glory
Samardzija’s ascension to the Cubs is the quickest for a Cubs pitcher since Mark Prior was called up in 2002 after only nine minor league starts.
by brian custer on Jul 31, 2008 9:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone else get a little nervous when
you here the Shark and Prior in the same reference?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 31, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gallows
humor. i love it. c’mon lighten up. these are happy days! we are the envy of all of baseball
by brian custer on Jul 31, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All baseball outside of Anaheim.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we'll take 'em
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Al, I was in 227
What a great game !!! Was that a called 3rd strike on Johnson in the 1st which Lee scored? I’m not sure how to put that I my score card. Will you post yours?
It was pretty incredible the amount of Cub fans in attendance. I wish we could work out a deal to treat the Brewer fans to some fun when they play us here - I know that sounds crazy - but everyone up there was super nice to us and chided us with fun. We watched Tues’ game at Mo’s Irish Pub and there was a rumor the team was going to show up. No luck at 11:30 when we left. We heard that Lou was tearing it up at Rock Bottom Monday night.
by coral on Jul 31, 2008 9:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It was a swinging strike.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 31, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK - OT, but...
CBS Sportsline reporting Junior Griffey going to the White Sox…
Discuss. :)
by Slim1256 on Jul 31, 2008 9:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Feeling verklempt
Talk amongst yourselves
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
by Cubster on Jul 31, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, 3 RF'ers and 2 DHs walk into a bar...
"This is the kind of thing … that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose." Marty Brennaman
by Bildo1805 on Jul 31, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strange...
Where does he play? The Sox have Thome and Konerko, so he can’t DH. They have Dye and Quentin at the corner OF spots. Do they think he can still play CF? Even so, is he an upgrade over Swisher? Are they going to platoon Swisher and Konerko at 1B?
Seems odd, collecting corner OF and playing them in CF.
by SouthernCub on Jul 31, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've always felt that any trade involving Junior...
would really be anti-climactic. There was so much discussion about it… but I just don’t see him as being an impact player any more.
Don’t get me wrong – I respect the guy. I just don’t see him being a difference maker any more.
by Slim1256 on Jul 31, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It just gives them a collection of guys...
who can hit HR but don’t do much else right now, along with Swisher and Konerko.
by SouthernCub on Jul 31, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same with Maddux
But Junior might help an AL team as a DH.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 31, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless the rumor is accurate...
that he’s been traded to the White Sox (who already have a DH who is much better than Griffey).
by SouthernCub on Jul 31, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Jul 31, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There has been a BlueMike sighting on the Griffey to White Sox fanpost!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 31, 2008 9:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
bustle bustle bustle
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's the sound of indifference?
Oh, yes, that’s it.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Morning!
Smells like a sweep day! It’s probably been covered already but did anyone see the guy in the BCB shirt on ESPN in the top of the 1st?
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on Jul 31, 2008 9:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rumor has it
that it was a cut-away shot to a UPS…no USPS…no FedEX guy in Florida with a box of shirts!
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Jul 31, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We should do a fanpost about this.
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on Jul 31, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about 12 fanposts about it? Like during ST?
hehe…
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Jul 31, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take it this has been covered
Fine…. I shall leave…
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on Jul 31, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only 3.5 hours till baseball...
...makes the work day go SO much faster…
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Jul 31, 2008 9:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That was my thought this morning.
Tread water this morning, lunch at noon, follow the game on BCB like a manic stockbroker at 1, off work at 4. Sounds good to me.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Make sure
you allow ample time for potty breaks
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on Jul 31, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seventh inning stretch.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you bring the Empty Miller Case?
or did you leave it in it’s resting place?
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 31, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theriot
can you imagine how high his slugging would be if he had Hart playing the right field more often. On consecutive days, Hart played a typical theriot single into triples.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 31, 2008 9:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He was just overcome by the sheer scrappiness.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 31, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't argue with facts
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Jul 31, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
brilliant!
Let's hope these bats travel well to Milwaukee -- Lou
by Emelie on Jul 31, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's a very scratchy jaggedy environment.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Another sabermagician!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you would think a ned yost-coached team
wouldn’t do things like turn singles into triples and ground outs into errors.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jul 31, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do I detect sarcasm?
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, i'd never be sarcastic.
ok, that’s sacrasm, too. crap.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jul 31, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think last night's triple was at least a double.
It found the gap. No RF was getting to that in time to hold Theriot to a single.
I can’t say anything about the one from Tuesday though, because I can’t remember the play very well.
by SouthernCub on Jul 31, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tuesday's play was worse
yesterday’s was probably a legit double, but hart has taken some awful angles this series.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jul 31, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still say it was the scrappiness that got him.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 31, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or corey didn't think scrappiness
could cause a ball to scoot so fast on the grass there.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jul 31, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scrappiness is kryptonite to bad OFers.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As they say - scrappy is as scrappy does!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 31, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sat in Sec 101 last night, right behind the Cubs bullpen..
..pretty cool watching the players interact with each other and watch the game.
I told Scott Eyre everyone missed him and got a smirk in return. Looks like the Shark is quite the talker, jabbing away with anyone who would listen to him. Cotts seemed pretty irritated he didn’t get into the game in the 8th when Gaudin went in. He was warm and ready.
Watching Marmol warm up in the 9th was great too, love hearing his fastball pop in the glove.
Amazing how many Cubs fans were there, I almost felt bad for the Brewers fans by the end of the night.
"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08
by JB 23 on Jul 31, 2008 9:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Felt sad for the lone '82 AL Champ Banner
Kept showing it on TV. It looked lonesome by itself on the giant backwall.
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
by Cubster on Jul 31, 2008 9:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just like they show our 1908 flag every commercial bump.
It’s been 100 years! Did you know that? If not, the announcers are there to inform you of such.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1908 is a WS flag
We have many pennent flags
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
by Cubster on Jul 31, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but not since 1982...
nor since the 1940s actually.
It’d be nice to change that this year.
by SouthernCub on Jul 31, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Many pennant flags
but none since 1945.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Caught Stealing
To Theriot’s credit… his caught stealing was on a pitch out…
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Jul 31, 2008 9:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And on Kendall's only good throw of the game.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to believe..
that Kendall leads the league in throwing out runners..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 31, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brewer series exposing Brewer's BIGGEST weakness----defense
Game 1 Cubs tied the game on an errand throw by Weeks, (yes the Johnson slide) but Fielder was unable to move and block the throw…..
Game 2 Ryan Braun in LF making a bad play on a single that would have scored 1 but led to three runs where Fukudome got a triple.
Game 3: First Fielder couldn’t hold a close play at 1B allowing Soriano to score with 2 outs on a wild pitch. Then Hart misplay’s a double into a triple allowing 2 runs to score (Ramirez from 1st and Theriot to bag another triple and score later).
These plays took out their starters which they need because their bullpen is suspect. Brewers will contend for the WC, maybe down to the final day with StL & Philly (and FL if they get Manny, which BTW will hurt both NYM & Philly more), but they are weak with the glove and give up too many outs.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jul 31, 2008 9:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW: A Win today and it puts the Brewers & Cards down 5 in the loss column with 53 remaining
These are big deals since once August begins you look at the loss column….Either way Cubs picked up 2 games in Milwaukee this week, possibly 4!
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jul 31, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoops. loss column
I shouldn’t post during meetings
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 31, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forget the goffy BB math.....look at the loss column from here on out!
especially during meetings that you are bored stiff and BLA BLA BLA
I used to think of Charlie Brown’s teacher’s voice sometimes when the execs spoke to hear themselves talk.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jul 31, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh-oh
now I’m going to hear that voice the rest of the meeting….
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 31, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hear you go
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jul 31, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
think about going to the game
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jul 31, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wah Wah, Wah Wah Wah Wah
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 31, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leaving for a four day camping trip in the mountains....
No TV, no cell phone coverage (can’t even check the Blackberry for scores).
I moved here (Denver) from the Chicago area to live near the mountains. I’ve never felt so reluctant to leave as I do today. You guys will have to make up for my absence in terms of fandom (somehow, I think you can do it).
Talk to you all when I get back on Sunday.
Go Cubs! Sweep the Brewers!
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 31, 2008 9:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
where you heading?
Down here in CO Springs…...this is a good year for summer camping in the Rockies, little rain, of course a perfect environment for fires…..
Last year I took the family to Mueller State Park at 10,000 feet and we had snow, hail and cold rain in mid-July….girls couldn’t stand it——I loved it, waking up with the temps around 32 and making coffee on an open fire…...
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jul 31, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, going to be in south central Wyoming.
I’m going to an amateur astronomy star party. We’ll be about 50 miles west of Laramie, up in the Snowy Range, at about 9,100 feet in altitude. Dark skies, no light pollution.
Outside of no ability to follow the Cubs, it’ll be marvelous.
If you go see the Rockies some time, let me know. Maybe we can meet up and wear our BCB shirts.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jul 31, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm
going to a ranch just west of Laramie starting on the 11th, so I won’t be able to follow the games either, but at least there will be internet so I can check the score each morning.
"Very adroit in the outfield." - Lou, on Dome
by gwood on Jul 31, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good for both of you.....as for light pollution
my wife’s family has a vacation retreat up near Woodland Park, it used to be out there, we could see the glow from CO Springs and Denver…..now it is basically a ex-urban suburb…..we have to go west of South Park to get out of the lights.
Both of you enjoy yourselves….we are going camping in September…..
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jul 31, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Be happy for the Milwaukee roof with the oncoming T-Storms
They are calling it Mesa-clusters in Minn and heady straight for Milw-Chi in the PM!
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jul 31, 2008 9:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Beautiful Day here...
Weatherman said those storms would be very late tonight here or early tomorrow. But when has a weatherman been 100% right?
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 31, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, in the Milwaukee area the ESPN cast was blacked out,
So I had to listen to the FSN WI guys again. It’s like watching a stand up comedy routine. A Cubs fan made a nice grab on a foul ball. And the guys in the both got overly excited and said, “it must have been a Brewers fan. When it’s hit to the Cubs they just get in the way.” followed by Schroeder who said, “or drop it.” HILARIOUS!!! Buddy have you been watching the past 3 games. Also, said a lot of the Cubs hits this series have been little flares, not sound hits. To top it off… They went over the Cubs bats the past 3 games saying 40 some odd hits,19 runs, with only 1 homerun. I think they were envious of that because the Brewers rely on the Hr. That seems to be the only way they score a lot of runs.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 31, 2008 9:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard they were reduced to making Bartman jokes last night
I LOVE when other teams announcers and fans are reduced to making jokes about that kind of stuff. It means that we are kicking some serious ass.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jul 31, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were borderline unprofessional...
I am not overly sensitive about anything but I was trying to remember any sports cast I’ve watched where the announcers picked on the oppositions fans as much as they did. It was almost as if they were fed up with the game and turned their attention to something that made them feel good.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 31, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best was listening to the 9th inning in Game One and Uecker's description to Lee's double
“The pitch”.......silence with cheers in the background…..more silence…..then “Soriano scores” in a sad resignation,....more silence….”Derrick Lee lined a double, Cubs up 5-4, Fontenot held at 3rd”.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jul 31, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uecker is on the radio?
I wonder if I could pick that up in Chicago?
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 31, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds a lot like little Thom Brenneman in Cincy
We take over their stadium, it pisses them off to no end and when we kick their butts on the field, they are reduced to taking cheap shots.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jul 31, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally... It would be miserable for me if the games went the other direction.
I swear the first game of the series, Brian Anderson was calling it like it was the 7th game of the World Series. Which got really old in like, the bottom of the first. I’m sure people think Len and Bob are annoying too but at least they call a professional game. I’ve never heard them take cheap shots at fans or other organizations players.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 31, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be miserable, too
but I’m not paid to announce the game. Even biased home team announcer’s don’t have to get petty. You’d never hear Len Kasper, in the midst of the Cubs being blown out, take shots at, say, Brewer fans or ridicule their playoff futility. It’s a small thing to do and I’m proud as hell that our guys are above that.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell
We have uber-homer Santo in our booth and even he doesn’t take shots at other teams’ fans, not even the Mets fans. Some of these guys must lead very small lives.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
by Kegler on Jul 31, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which Suck,s because all the Brewers fans are watching
and getting this bad perspective from these guys. Adds more fuel to the fire.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 31, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pat Hughes
You also never, ever hear Pat Hughes clam up and not describe the action if something goes massively against the Cubs.
by rgonzale on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed.
Pat only misses calls when Ronny’s talking in his ear.
“Yes, mm-hmm. What? Oh, of course. That’s quite a story, Ron. To catch you up fans, a huge triple by Derrek Lee followed up a walk by Ramirez. Unfortunately, Edmonds popped up to end the inning. We’ll be right back.”
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
good call!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Jul 31, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brewer announcers
Living in Wisconsin, I hear those clowns a lot and they are essentially cheerleaders first. Not quite like Santo wearing their hearts on their sleeves, but trying to drum up fan interest in what they perceive to be a product worthy of more attention. Schroeder doesn’t like the Cubs and downgrades everything they do, but I don’t have a real problem with it as a Brewers announcer. He just loses credibility when he says things like he did on Monday about Cubs hitters watching balls out of the box while Braun does that constantly.
The only saving grace is that Anderson is far better and much less annoying thatn Daron Sutton, now stationed in Arizona.
Who needs a stinkin' tag line? What are they for anyway?
by krummy12 on Jul 31, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard on the Soriano homer the other night
One of them talk about how we have some guys who “will Caddilac around the bases” when they know they hit one out.
I found that very funny.
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was the exact comment... Also stated CC
stared down Sori after the homerun. Which was a complete fabrication.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 31, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And while Santo does indeed wear his fandom on his sleeve
he’s a Cub fan, not an opponent hater. Very big difference.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
indeed
he puts responsibility where it goes. When the Cubs screw up, he calls it.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
19 runs with 1 HR.
That’s fundamental baseball and I’ll take it any day.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was been a good week hasn't it!?
Hopefully, Rich will get his first W and turn it into a great one.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Jul 31, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arthur Grandpa Rhodes going Fishin
Funny part of this article are his comments on being ejected last night and about the ump:
“You’ve got to make your calls out there,” said Rhodes, who’s been the subject of trade rumors. “I’m out there making good pitches, the ball’s going over the plate, you should call it. But I have no comment over that.”Like SWL, he’s told us before, he doesn’t repeat himself.
Go ahead, Z me.
by tony412 on Jul 31, 2008 10:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sutcliffe having Man-love for Piniella
And he is correct in how Piniella is a master in using his bench, especially a versatile productive second set of players. Cubs rested Soto and Blanco comes through throwing out runners and getting a double. He discussed Reed Johnson and Cedeno (who got a pinch hit).
He then said that the Brewers ran into the Cubs who have better talent and didn’t approach their offense well allowing Dempster to throw pitchers’s pitch where the Brewers are free swinging while the Cubs were patient.
Cubs got 8 walks to Dempster’s ONE (what was described as a veiled intentional walk to Fielder), Cubs also got 15 hits…..and put pressure on the Brewers every inning.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jul 31, 2008 10:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree 100%
Yet after every game someone complains about Lou’s bullpen use. It might not be how I would do it but the results speak for themselves.
by rlpete on Jul 31, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So who rests today?
I’d give Lee the day off and get Ward some work.
"I don't think anybody's paying attention to the Cubs." - Prince Fielder
by jasoniniowa on Jul 31, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Lou has to smell blood in the water and won't do that.
Rest him against PIT. You’ve seen vividly how much defense means in the first three games of the series.
Dome-san!!
by Goat Whisperer on Jul 31, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But don't you see even if there is blood in the water the bench contributes to the kill
Ward would be a good insert against a weaker RHP, possibly rest Theriot as well and play Cedeno. They will produce.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jul 31, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ward would be a good insert to get D. Lee some rest...
but not today. I don’t think Lou wants to have suspect defense at 1st base against your closest division rival. Especially with a chance to sweep the Brewers.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good post.
I think the overlooked in the series in the midst of our fantastic pitching and our bats coming alive is the patience the team has shown. The Cubs are beginning to look like the patient team we saw during the first half. It truly is a case of a team firing on all cylinders (in the face of Rami and Dome still not hitting to their potential and losing our closer).
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question (sorta OT)
Is the plan with Samardzija still for him to eventually start? I’d love to see this rotation come out of spring training next year:
Zambrano
Harden
Lilly
Dempster
Shark/Marshall
Or are they going to just focus on using him in relief roles?
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by jasoniniowa on Jul 31, 2008 10:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure Demp will be a part of the plan....he's going to get a LOT of offers this offseason.
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by NotSure on Jul 31, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we'll lose him for sure
which makes me very sad
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by Emelie on Jul 31, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll have to give us
one crazy discount if we will keep him
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by gwood on Jul 31, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry
Cuban will pay up!
Dome-san!!
by Goat Whisperer on Jul 31, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
on that note, i wouldn't be surprised to see Cuban try to land
CC Sabathia to make a “big splash”. its not like he can’t afford it (assuming he becomes the owner, which is still a long shot)
by philadelphiacub on Jul 31, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't be sad.
Sure, Demp will get tons of offers. Hendry is a great GM, and this bodes well for retaining players. Many players have given the Cubs a discount to stay in Chicago with Cubs. Demp is a loyal guy, and I can easily see him being offered an incentive laden big, competitive deal. I also can see Demp being loyal and taking it. Demp has been through a lot since he came to the Cubs, and the Cubs have had his back in everything. No matter what team offers what money, I see Demp coming back. I’d almost bet on it.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 31, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Demp does seem like a very loyal guy
and the Cubs have done right by him in a lot of ways.
I really hope he stays, because, not only is he really pitching well, he seems like a fantastic guy to have around the clubhouse.
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by gwood on Jul 31, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Assuming he is still around
one thing Hendry has been good at is signing Cubs free agents. People thought Z and Ramirez were likely gone too.
My only concern is that their offers were what I considered reasonable for age and quality. Dempster may get a crazy Schmidt Zito-like offer that is well above what he is worth. In that case, Hendry may have to let him go.
by rlpete on Jul 31, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he'll get a crazy offer like that off of one great year.
Also, with the success that Hendry has had in his tenure as GM, any new owner would be a fool to let him go.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 31, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus I think he likes being a Cub and will be reasonable in negotiating.
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by Fishbone2 on Jul 31, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
we hold onto him. I think it’s more likely Lilly would go than Demp. He LOVES playing here.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we