PRE-Pregame Thread: Cubs vs Brewers Game 4 - Let's sweep 'em!
Yet another nice win yesterday-Demp was phenomenal, the offense scored runs, defense was good-a great win. Today, I really have a feeling that the Cubs will win today. Harden will go out and pitch yet another great game, and the Cubs will finally score some runs for him.
Note: Coincedence or no, every time I have posted a PRE-Pregame Thread, the Cubs have won. Granted, the only reason I have done it is for the Brewers series, but should I continue posting these past today? Answer in the poll below....
Hey Chicago whaddya say?
The Cubs are gonna WIN today!
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if it worked the last couple games, hopefully it will work today
by lexmarklover on Jul 31, 2008 9:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gah!!! I can't wait for this game.
I’m glad we don’t have to wait until tonight for the game. I want to sweep the Brewers so bad.
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 31, 2008 9:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dave Bush has been solid
In his last seven starts posting a 2.68 ERA.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 31, 2008 9:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and he's been much better at home all year
4-2, 2.85 ERA at home; 1-6, 6.95 ERA on the road
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jul 31, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be CRAZY at Miller Park if the Cubs swept....
One season-162 heart attacks!
by cubswgnrocks on Jul 31, 2008 10:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How good would 5 games ahead look!
n/t
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on Jul 31, 2008 10:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pretty damn good
Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.
by sue369 on Jul 31, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like buttah
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
by cubbybear on Jul 31, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we'd be
more than halfway to my 8 games up by mid-august before August even started!
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I enjoy seeing these pre-pregame threads
it gives me something to do while I wait at work for the game to start. I’m all for the continuation of the pre-pregame threads. Of course it really depends on if Al has a problem with the extra posts being up everyday.
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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 31, 2008 10:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, I dunno.
If people like them—fine. The problem is, it tends to bump the other posts down in the list pretty quickly.
Let me know what you all think.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Jul 31, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al, if there is a problem with me posting these, then please feel free to let me know.
People seem to like them, so unless you have a problem with them, then I was going to continue posting them. If you do have a problem, then I’ll stop.
One season-162 heart attacks!
by cubswgnrocks on Jul 31, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like them
on days when the game is late. For something like today—well, I’m always happy to talk Cubs baseball. Not sure it’s needed for day-games when the pre-game thread is up by 11:30 and the game starts at 1:30.
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seems like people are getting better
about posting pointless posts, or posting the same thing as somebody else so hopefully this will help with the posts getting bumped down so quickly.
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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 31, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theriot: the Cubs' best shortstop since Ernie Banks?
As Principal Skinner would say, “Prove me wrong, kids. Prove me wrong.”
by HereComesASpecialBoy on Jul 31, 2008 10:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don Kessinger
was pretty darn good in his day for the Cubs teams of the late 60’s and early 70’s
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jul 31, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, I'll prove you wrong.
Per baseballanalysts.com: Theriot’s defense costs the cubs 6 runs a season, and he gets to 81% of BIZ, which is below league average. He also is -3 runs on OOZ plays, and is well below league average in that category as well. Among the 105 MLB shortstops baseball analysts studied for 2008 (admittedly all are obviously not starters) Theriot ranked 97. 97 out of 105. Horrible.
On the offensive side, he admittedly gets on base at an impressive clip, which is extremely valuable to this team, so no complaints there. However, his SLG is a paltry .385, which is bad for any major league hitter. Also, his baserunning is simply terrible. He’s stolen 16 bases, and been caught 11 times. Absolutely pathetic, and that doesn’t even include all the mistakes he makes on the bases.
To sum it up, I’ve come around a little on Theriot, and will freely admit that his OBP is highly valuable, and an asset to the Cubs. However, when you take a look at his defense, SLG, and baserunning, I still argue that Theriot is a net negative to this team. And to say Theriot was a better player than Shawon Dunston is just wrong.
by sackings108 on Jul 31, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I'm not trying to start a flame war or big blow up or anything,
I’m simply answering the question. Obviously the bigger issue of the day is the attempted sweep of the Crew.
by sackings108 on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You answered for me.
Dunston was much better than Theriot. He played better defense, had a rocket for an arm, and hit for more power. Dunston was so good that he came up as rookie and supplanted Larry Bowa, (who we all know was no slouch at short).
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 31, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand...
As someone (I wish I could remember who) once so elegantly put it, Dunston was such a hacker that he would sometimes “swing at pickoff throws to first”. Great defensively for sure, but offensively I’d say that he’s a step down from Theriot.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Jul 31, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the floodgates are open...
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry.
When you’re comparing Theriot to Dunston, there really isn’t much of an argument.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 31, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
light the CWYERS BEACON!
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For a positive note:
Kosuke’s post all star numbers:
.289/.386/.421
Nice to see him return to productivity.
by sackings108 on Jul 31, 2008 11:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good Morning Everyone!
Lets sweep these guys!!!!!!!!!
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 17 HR 46 RBI
by Galvan316 on Jul 31, 2008 11:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BREAKING NEWS:Griffey approves trade to White Sox
One season-162 heart attacks!
by cubswgnrocks on Jul 31, 2008 11:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to 4 hours ago :)
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 17 HR 46 RBI
by Galvan316 on Jul 31, 2008 11:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fortunately there's less than 4 hours
until the deadline then all of these rumors will finally stop
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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 31, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is the most exciting part of the season
besides the last 3 weeks.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Jul 31, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I enjoy the deadline
but at the same time I’ve had enough talk about Manny and cubs fans thinking we can trade Bob Howry for Huston Street or Cedeno for Jeter(I haven’t actually seen either of these trades I’m simply exaggerating)
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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 31, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please don't trade Cedeno for Jeter!!
Jeter is quite possibly the worst defensive SS in baseball, and he hasn’t hit this year either. I’d rather have Theriot.
by sackings108 on Jul 31, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious?
Jeter the worst defensive SS in baseball?
Have you seen Theriot field shortstop?
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Jul 31, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don't think he's serious.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suck at sarcasm
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Jul 31, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the interwebs.
Sarcasm isn’t as readily apparent. Though I think on BCB the odds are in your favor if you assume a comment is sarcastic.
And, no, that wasn’t sarcastic.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need a “Sarcastic” button to highlight our comments (much like the “Quote” button we’re given). Al… can you get on that please?
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by digitalbenjamin on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I agree with you.
A lot, actually. There are alot of rumors that are surfacing around the internets just for the sake of rumors. It’s exciting to see people actually be traded, though, for me. I still can’t believe Mark Teixeira to the Angels—as if they having Hunter, Guerrero, Kotchman and Kendrick wasn’t enough.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Jul 31, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget about their version of the Wonder Hamster
Chone Figgins
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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 31, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well he's a starter isn't he?
And his power is nowhere near Fontenot’s—honestly.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Jul 31, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess you got me on both accounts
he’s a heck of a player nonetheless
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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 31, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It time take out the bats again...
and give the Brewer’s pitching staff the business. Here’s to a sweep and a 5 game lead!
My mom is in town for the next few days…I’m relegated to watching the games on the DVR after everyone is in bed :(
I’ll try and check in with all of you when I get the chance! Go Cubs!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 31, 2008 11:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You guys think the cubs are gonna make a deal?
by lexmarklover on Jul 31, 2008 11:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A lot less talk about the Cubs today
they seemed busy calling about players yesterday though
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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 31, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea especially with Griffey talk
if we do pick up a left handed bat i want david dejesus.
by lexmarklover on Jul 31, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
looks like the Cubs will stand pat.
The only move that really looks likely is Eyre getting sent somewhere for a prospect.
by sackings108 on Jul 31, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes sir, I do.
I expect it to happen this afternoon, right before the deadline. It’ll either be for a pen guy, or a LH bat for the OF. I expect Hendry to come up with something that no one is thinking of.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 31, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think a trade needs to happen
whether it’s pen or LH bat especially with the injuries to edmonds/wood
by lexmarklover on Jul 31, 2008 11:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
29 minutes and the (major) trades end
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Jul 31, 2008 11:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
29 minutes?
why 29 minutes, isn’t there sitll 3.5 hours left
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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 31, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3h29m you mean?
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeeze Louize
For some reason I thought it ended at 1 pm ET
I need to take a timeout from life
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on Jul 31, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Random stuff..
According to baseballmusings.com lineup projections, using year to date stats, the Cubs best lineup (5.664 runs per game) is:
Fukudome
Edmonds
DeRosa
Soriano
Ramirez
Soto
Lee
Pitcher
Theriot
I guess the projection agrees with Ned Yost and TLR about where to bat the pitcher.
by sackings108 on Jul 31, 2008 11:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
or, on days Z pitches
Fukudome
Edmonds
DeRosa
Soriano
Ramirez
Zambrano
Lee
Soto
Theriot
@6.055 runs per game
by sackings108 on Jul 31, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, that is SICK
how well Big Z is hitting. Doesn’t shock me to see him there, though.
*Synth intro to "Jump"*
by SouthsideCub on Jul 31, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a hunch
but I doubt we’ll see that this year.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I agree with you. just thought it was interesting.
by sackings108 on Jul 31, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, definitely.
Interesting reading at least.
And I like the 6 runs per game.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's why they play the games. :D
’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)
by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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