PRE-Pregame Thread: Cubs vs Brewers Game 4 - Let's sweep 'em!

by cubswgnrocks on Jul 31, 2008 9:48 AM CDT

Yet another nice win yesterday-Demp was phenomenal, the offense scored runs, defense was good-a great win. Today, I really have a feeling that the Cubs will win today. Harden will go out and pitch yet another great game, and the Cubs will finally score some runs for him.

Note: Coincedence or no, every time I have posted a PRE-Pregame Thread, the Cubs have won. Granted, the only reason I have done it is for the Brewers series, but should I continue posting these past today? Answer in the poll below....

Hey Chicago whaddya say?

The Cubs are gonna WIN today!

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if it worked the last couple games, hopefully it will work today

by lexmarklover on Jul 31, 2008 9:50 AM CDT reply actions

Gah!!! I can't wait for this game.

I’m glad we don’t have to wait until tonight for the game. I want to sweep the Brewers so bad.

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 31, 2008 9:53 AM CDT reply actions

Dave Bush has been solid

In his last seven starts posting a 2.68 ERA.

"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti

by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 31, 2008 9:56 AM CDT reply actions

and he's been much better at home all year

4-2, 2.85 ERA at home; 1-6, 6.95 ERA on the road

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Jul 31, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions

It would be CRAZY at Miller Park if the Cubs swept....

One season-162 heart attacks!

by cubswgnrocks on Jul 31, 2008 10:08 AM CDT reply actions

How good would 5 games ahead look!

n/t

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Jul 31, 2008 10:10 AM CDT reply actions

Pretty damn good

Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden. Now that's a pair of Aces.

by sue369 on Jul 31, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions

Like buttah

"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente

by cubbybear on Jul 31, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions

we'd be

more than halfway to my 8 games up by mid-august before August even started!

’’If somebody had told me we were going to lose Soriano for eight weeks, lose [Carlos] Zambrano and Kerry Wood for a couple of weeks apiece, and then at the same time lose [Reed] Johnson, and then when we played the American League not have a DH [then-injured Daryle Ward], and be in first place by two games, I’d tell you we were pretty fortunate.’’ Lou Piniella (7/23/08)

by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions

I enjoy seeing these pre-pregame threads

it gives me something to do while I wait at work for the game to start. I’m all for the continuation of the pre-pregame threads. Of course it really depends on if Al has a problem with the extra posts being up everyday.

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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 31, 2008 10:19 AM CDT reply actions

Well, I dunno.

If people like them—fine. The problem is, it tends to bump the other posts down in the list pretty quickly.

Let me know what you all think.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jul 31, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions

Al, if there is a problem with me posting these, then please feel free to let me know.

People seem to like them, so unless you have a problem with them, then I was going to continue posting them. If you do have a problem, then I’ll stop.

One season-162 heart attacks!

by cubswgnrocks on Jul 31, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions

I like them

on days when the game is late. For something like today—well, I’m always happy to talk Cubs baseball. Not sure it’s needed for day-games when the pre-game thread is up by 11:30 and the game starts at 1:30.

by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions

It seems like people are getting better

about posting pointless posts, or posting the same thing as somebody else so hopefully this will help with the posts getting bumped down so quickly.

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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 31, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions

Theriot: the Cubs' best shortstop since Ernie Banks?

As Principal Skinner would say, “Prove me wrong, kids. Prove me wrong.”

by HereComesASpecialBoy on Jul 31, 2008 10:21 AM CDT reply actions

Don Kessinger

was pretty darn good in his day for the Cubs teams of the late 60’s and early 70’s

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Jul 31, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions

Ok, I'll prove you wrong.

Per baseballanalysts.com: Theriot’s defense costs the cubs 6 runs a season, and he gets to 81% of BIZ, which is below league average. He also is -3 runs on OOZ plays, and is well below league average in that category as well. Among the 105 MLB shortstops baseball analysts studied for 2008 (admittedly all are obviously not starters) Theriot ranked 97. 97 out of 105. Horrible.

On the offensive side, he admittedly gets on base at an impressive clip, which is extremely valuable to this team, so no complaints there. However, his SLG is a paltry .385, which is bad for any major league hitter. Also, his baserunning is simply terrible. He’s stolen 16 bases, and been caught 11 times. Absolutely pathetic, and that doesn’t even include all the mistakes he makes on the bases.

To sum it up, I’ve come around a little on Theriot, and will freely admit that his OBP is highly valuable, and an asset to the Cubs. However, when you take a look at his defense, SLG, and baserunning, I still argue that Theriot is a net negative to this team. And to say Theriot was a better player than Shawon Dunston is just wrong.

by sackings108 on Jul 31, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions

Also, I'm not trying to start a flame war or big blow up or anything,

I’m simply answering the question. Obviously the bigger issue of the day is the attempted sweep of the Crew.

by sackings108 on Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions

You answered for me.

Dunston was much better than Theriot. He played better defense, had a rocket for an arm, and hit for more power. Dunston was so good that he came up as rookie and supplanted Larry Bowa, (who we all know was no slouch at short).

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by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 31, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions

On the other hand...

As someone (I wish I could remember who) once so elegantly put it, Dunston was such a hacker that he would sometimes “swing at pickoff throws to first”. Great defensively for sure, but offensively I’d say that he’s a step down from Theriot.

"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman

by hip2bsquare on Jul 31, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions

And the floodgates are open...

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions

Don't worry.

When you’re comparing Theriot to Dunston, there really isn’t much of an argument.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 31, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions

light the CWYERS BEACON!

by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions

For a positive note:

Kosuke’s post all star numbers:

.289/.386/.421

Nice to see him return to productivity.

by sackings108 on Jul 31, 2008 11:00 AM CDT reply actions

Good Morning Everyone!

Lets sweep these guys!!!!!!!!!

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 17 HR 46 RBI

by Galvan316 on Jul 31, 2008 11:03 AM CDT reply actions

BREAKING NEWS:Griffey approves trade to White Sox

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080731&content_id=3230331&vkey=trade2008&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

One season-162 heart attacks!

by cubswgnrocks on Jul 31, 2008 11:07 AM CDT reply actions

little late bud.

by sackings108 on Jul 31, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions

Welcome to 4 hours ago :)

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .284 17 HR 46 RBI

by Galvan316 on Jul 31, 2008 11:09 AM CDT reply actions

Fortunately there's less than 4 hours

until the deadline then all of these rumors will finally stop

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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 31, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions

I think this is the most exciting part of the season

besides the last 3 weeks.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 31, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions

I enjoy the deadline

but at the same time I’ve had enough talk about Manny and cubs fans thinking we can trade Bob Howry for Huston Street or Cedeno for Jeter(I haven’t actually seen either of these trades I’m simply exaggerating)

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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 31, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions

Please don't trade Cedeno for Jeter!!

Jeter is quite possibly the worst defensive SS in baseball, and he hasn’t hit this year either. I’d rather have Theriot.

by sackings108 on Jul 31, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions

Are you serious?

Jeter the worst defensive SS in baseball?

Have you seen Theriot field shortstop?

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 31, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions

Yeah, I don't think he's serious.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions

I suck at sarcasm

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 31, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions

It's the interwebs.

Sarcasm isn’t as readily apparent. Though I think on BCB the odds are in your favor if you assume a comment is sarcastic.

And, no, that wasn’t sarcastic.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jul 31, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions

We need a “Sarcastic” button to highlight our comments (much like the “Quote” button we’re given). Al… can you get on that please?

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by digitalbenjamin on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah, I agree with you.

A lot, actually. There are alot of rumors that are surfacing around the internets just for the sake of rumors. It’s exciting to see people actually be traded, though, for me. I still can’t believe Mark Teixeira to the Angels—as if they having Hunter, Guerrero, Kotchman and Kendrick wasn’t enough.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 31, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions

Don't forget about their version of the Wonder Hamster

Chone Figgins

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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 31, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions

Well he's a starter isn't he?

And his power is nowhere near Fontenot’s—honestly.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 31, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions

I guess you got me on both accounts

he’s a heck of a player nonetheless

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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 31, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions

It time take out the bats again...

and give the Brewer’s pitching staff the business. Here’s to a sweep and a 5 game lead!

My mom is in town for the next few days…I’m relegated to watching the games on the DVR after everyone is in bed :(

I’ll try and check in with all of you when I get the chance! Go Cubs!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 31, 2008 11:20 AM CDT reply actions

You guys think the cubs are gonna make a deal?

by lexmarklover on Jul 31, 2008 11:21 AM CDT reply actions

A lot less talk about the Cubs today

they seemed busy calling about players yesterday though

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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 31, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions

yea especially with Griffey talk

if we do pick up a left handed bat i want david dejesus.

by lexmarklover on Jul 31, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions

looks like the Cubs will stand pat.

The only move that really looks likely is Eyre getting sent somewhere for a prospect.

by sackings108 on Jul 31, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions

Yes sir, I do.

I expect it to happen this afternoon, right before the deadline. It’ll either be for a pen guy, or a LH bat for the OF. I expect Hendry to come up with something that no one is thinking of.

Jimmyeatworld

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 31, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions