Glass Half Full: Cubs 3, Giants 8

a) A glass half empty
b) A glass half full
c) When is it going to spill?
a) A glass half empty b) A glass half full c) When is it going to spill?
That's an old Cub fan joke, and maybe it isn't that funny, especially after another bad-looking loss, 8-3 to the Giants, but if you're getting that "sky is falling" feeling this morning, think about this: You could be a Brewers fan, having just watched your team blow a five-run ninth inning lead to the Diamondbacks and lose 6-5 when three Milwaukee relievers faced seven Arizona hitters in the 9th and got none of them out.
Or, you could be a Cardinals fan, having just watched your team get blown out 11-1 by a mediocre Mets team (remember? the team the Cubs beat 7-1 and 8-1 in Chicago in April?) and having Tony LaRussa treat one of his kid starters, Mitchell Boggs, like he did Jason Marquis two years ago and leave him on the mound for six innings to take an 10-hit, 6-walk, 11-run pounding.
Feel better now? Since Carlos Zambrano walked off the mound in Tampa on June 18, making all of us cringe as he called the coaching and training staff out to look at his right shoulder, the Cubs are 6-8. Yet, they have lost exactly one game of their division lead since that date, and tonight Z takes the mound in St. Louis in a matchup of the teams with the two best records in the National League, in a series the Cubs really have to win, if for no other reason than to actually prove to themselves that they can win a series on the road -- they haven't since the series I attended in Toronto three weekends ago.
They should have won the series in San Francisco instead of splitting it -- especially after scoring three runs off Tim Lincecum, a run total he's allowed only six times in his 18 starts this year. Sean Gallagher had one bad inning, the second, in which he allowed all four of his runs, and the last one scored when Geovany Soto dropped a Ray Durham popup that allowed the fourth (unearned) run to score. In fairness, the wind was howling pretty good yesterday and that took the ball from foul to fair territory, away from Geovany. Still, if he catches it, Mark DeRosa's two-run double in the sixth would have tied the game instead of just making it 4-3 and then who knows?
What I do know is that Jose Ascanio is likely headed back to Iowa today when Z is activated (and Gallagher's headed to the bullpen). Despite having a good arm, Ascanio has had a penchant for helping turn close games into blowouts. He did it last Sunday at the Cell when he allowed a two-run HR by Jim Thome that turned a 3-1 deficit into a virtually insurmountable 5-1 lead, and again yesterday when he misplayed Omar Vizquel's bunt. Vizquel is an excellent bunter, but the one in the 7th yesterday might have been turned into a double play with a better-fielding pitcher. At the very least it should have resulted in an out; Lou had very little patience with his bullpen yesterday, pulling Ascanio right after that and then yanking his replacement, Carlos Marmol, after Marmol threw exactly three pitches to Rich Aurilia, the third of which was deposited in the LF bleachers to make the score 7-3, effectively ending the game.
You want to worry about Marmol? Go ahead, because so am I (and so is Lou). Including his meltdown in Tampa on June 19, Marmol in his last seven appearances has pitched five innings, allowed five hits, seven walks and three HR for ten earned runs and an 18.00 ERA. I don't know what's wrong with him; if he's hurt he needs to get to the DL, and if he's not, something has to be turned around quickly because the Cubs can't win games without him.
The shadows at Phone Holding Company Park weren't a factor till about the seventh inning; at game time the entire field was still in bright sunshine, but that didn't help the Cubs hit Tim Lincecum that well. He still struck out eight in his six innings.
So while you might think things are collapsing, take heart. Z returns tonight. Alfonso Soriano's going to start hitting off a tee tonight, in anticipation of a rehab assignment and possibly a return by next weekend. The Cubs still have the third-best record in baseball, behind the Rays and Angels, and maintain a 2.5 game division lead.
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I am really worried about Marmol
awful game. Glad we got that out of our system before St. Louis.
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
by Emelie on
Jul 4, 2008 8:13 AM CDT
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Half Full
Always have been always will.
Marmol: IMO, his control obviously right now is horrendus, and when he falls behind in the count, which is about 80% of the time, his strikes are belt high. The last two homeruns to Durham and Aurila both belt or just a tad higher. If he is physically fine, what do you do? Hell you still have to run him out there. Sending him down to me is not an option. I agree he is a huge part of the Cubs success.
Lets have a good weekend, Ramy is back, and Reed Johnson, who is vital for this team is back. Any Idea if “Z” is on any type of pitch count?
Go Cubs!
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by Grockcubs on
Jul 4, 2008 8:25 AM CDT
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Article linked by Al said...
85-90 pitch limit for Z.
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by carmen_fanzone on
Jul 4, 2008 9:03 AM CDT
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Thanks
did not read the link
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on
Jul 4, 2008 12:45 PM CDT
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That's kind of why I put those links there...
... because putting the whole text in the post makes the posts really, really long.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jul 4, 2008 1:05 PM CDT
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Didn't get to watch.............
............the game yesterday, but it looks like Cotts pitched well. Especially with Eyre out, his performance is going to be critical.
The Cubs have to face the Cards so-called three best pitchers. Frankly they’re all back end guys, but they’ve managed to perform so far. That said, Looper and Wellemeyer were both hammered their last times out, and perhaps that pattern can continue.
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by tville on
Jul 4, 2008 8:56 AM CDT
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I also say Half Full
(And probably teeming with icky micro-organisms, if you look closely enough.)
Heck, we aren’t even to the ASB yet, and it seems like every series brings out terms like “must-win” and “season-defining.” I hearken back to Al’s wise reminder that our Boys in Blue are still the most patient team in baseball. Can we as fans say the same for ourselves?
Many games to come vs. the Cards and Brewers, many opportunities to control our fortunes.
“Fill ‘er up!”
"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse
by Goodie1969 on
Jul 4, 2008 8:57 AM CDT
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Spoiled
I think we got a little spoiled by the way they played for 2 1/2 months that this 2 weeks gets magnified.
Go Cubs
by cubstoseriesby100 on
Jul 4, 2008 12:01 PM CDT
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Always half full.....that said ESPN reporting CC about to go to Milwaukee
Cubs would do well making that deal for Burkett that is probably available and if Toronto is correct they want a SS in return, plus probably two players in replacement to the supplemental draft. Cedeno is the target of course so if the Cubs are going to step up to the plate they probably will need to deal something of value like Marshall and two prospects.
Then the Cubs can go ahead and trade for Vizquel later in the month as they will need a SS back up for certain.
Marmol has lost a bit of confidence. He needs a good all star break.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on
Jul 4, 2008 9:05 AM CDT
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Vizquel?
You can’t be serious. The man simply cannot hit any more. He is 41 years old. Why do you have a fixation on him?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jul 4, 2008 9:33 AM CDT
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Not for the hitting....
..... but for the late inning glove work.
Santo Forever!
by BeerCub on
Jul 4, 2008 9:34 AM CDT
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Still. Not. Worth. It.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jul 4, 2008 9:37 AM CDT
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Besides Vizquel's woeful hitting...
... go look at his fielding numbers. His range factor is way down. He’s done. I can’t imagine why the Giants are still putting him out there every day.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jul 4, 2008 9:38 AM CDT
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Looks Like Bowa At the End
I hate seeing good or great shortstops decline at the end of their careers. Vizquel should get a lot of Hall of Fame votes, but he’s only a shadow of his former self. Bowa couldn’t hit at all at the end of his career. Bowa’s range was shrinking, when Dunston joined the Cubs. Bowa was overshadowed by the flashiness of Ozzie Smith at SS. Bowa had some of the surest hands of any SS I have ever seen.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on
Jul 4, 2008 9:47 AM CDT
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Bowa could at least hit about .240...
... which is what he did for his last couple of years with the Cubs. Vizquel isn’t doing that. He’s done.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jul 4, 2008 12:00 PM CDT
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Al's Magic
He proclaimed Jim Edmonds “done” and alakazam! So now, if we get Vizquel, Omar will revert to his vintage Indians form! Thanks Al! :-)
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by CaliCub on
Jul 4, 2008 1:37 PM CDT
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Once again, John Burkett is retired. AJ Burnett is his name.
If you wish to be taken seriously, at a minimum you should be able to correctly identify the players involved and spell their names correctly.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Jul 4, 2008 10:16 AM CDT
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John Burkett? Maybe he's thinking of
Johnny Burnette?
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on
Jul 4, 2008 3:53 PM CDT
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Likely not.
IvyWalls doesn’t strike me as a big rockabilly fan!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Jul 4, 2008 3:55 PM CDT
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No trade proposals for Gene Vincent or Carl Perkins then?
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on
Jul 4, 2008 3:59 PM CDT
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Where do you see this? Not on ESPN.com
Devin Hester, you are rediculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on
Jul 4, 2008 12:06 PM CDT
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Yeah. Link please?
I don’t see it either. Strangely I can’t find any rumors about Burkett, Sabo, or even Valdes.
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by northsider on
Jul 4, 2008 12:07 PM CDT
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He's probably talking about Buster Olney's report.
Which was, of course, far from definitive.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jul 4, 2008 12:10 PM CDT
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Do you have some sort of problem with being unable to spell Burnett properly, my god
Everytime you post it it says Burkett but people continually tell you it is Burnett
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
by CubsBall2202 on
Jul 4, 2008 12:26 PM CDT
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There's a guy on the Cardinal's site that mentions "Cows" or "Moo" in every single post.
Drives them crazy over there…lol.
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by Bump Bailey on
Jul 4, 2008 12:29 PM CDT
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He did the same
thing with Edmonds name. When I see his posts I usually ignore them.
by sue369 on
Jul 4, 2008 1:45 PM CDT
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Well the frankenpitcher
Burkett isn’t available. Maybe we could get Burnett but is he an improvement over what we have. But I have to realize that you have inside information that never pans out.
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by bubbamike the one and only on
Jul 4, 2008 12:45 PM CDT
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I say half full
and realize that this stretch on the schedule even before the injuries was going to be really tough anyway. If we take 2 of 3 this weekend, I say mission accomplished. Use the ASB to recharge and evaluate our weaknesses to make the 2nd half a strong one.
Couldn’t watch the game yesterday, but when I saw the score on the crawl I figured Gallagher just didn’t have it.
Hard to believe that the Cards are pretty dominant on the road and we just can’t get it going. As well as we pound teams at Wrigley, you would think that some of that would carry over on our away games, but it’s far and few between. We don’t have to be a juggernaut on the road, but if we don’t have home field advantage in the playoffs, it’s gonna be extra tough to win each series.
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by BigJohnAZ on
Jul 4, 2008 9:06 AM CDT
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My only fear tonight...
...is Z is too pumped up and tries to overthrow. Breathe in, breathe out, Z.
Marmol is a big concern. He’s, obviously, not getting any better. We’ll need someone to step up (Cotts?), if this continues.
And you could see the Aurillia HR was demoralizing to the team last night. You could see a collective shoulder slump by the team after that.
But, hey, what’s past is past. Let’s get the bats going this weekend and win at least 2 of 3!
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by carmen_fanzone on
Jul 4, 2008 9:08 AM CDT
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I agree on Z tonight
he’s seen us suck for 2 weeks and he’ll try to win 3 games tonight. Hope our coaches can get him to relax and be the Z we all love to watch when he’s in (somewhat) control. I don’t want him TOO calm out there, need him to be a little fired up lol
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by BigJohnAZ on
Jul 4, 2008 9:17 AM CDT
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Z Is For Zoloft
Which I hope that he takes
So the Cubs sweep St.. Louis
For Heavenly Sakes!
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by CaliCub on
Jul 4, 2008 1:39 PM CDT
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I'm less worried about Z on the mound
and more worried he’ll do something stupid w/ a bat in his hand.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 4, 2008 1:59 PM CDT
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Our short term perception...
of the team can change quickly if Z pitches well and the Cubs are able to take 2 of 3 this weekend. I say half full.
This is one of hopefully only 2 or 3 tough times in the season, the Cubs are still 2.5 up and finally everyone is getting healthly. The only thing I am actually concerned about is Marmol, I think he will turn it around but without him being himself the bullpen becomes very average.
Lets do it Cubbies
by slocs55 on
Jul 4, 2008 9:10 AM CDT
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The real question:
Is whether the glass is filling up or leaking. While at first glance we all may say it’s leaking, when you look at all 162 games, this is hopefully just a blip. All teams go through spells when they don’t hit, don’t pitch as well as other times. Becoming healthy will go a long way to starting to fill that glass back up. This team will bounce back and I hope the Cardinals are the potion to get us going. Winning 2 of 3 would be huge. With 28 home games and 22 road games until the end of August we need to position ourselves for September with some cushion.
BTW, we need to keep CC from going to Milwaukee!
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on
Jul 4, 2008 9:11 AM CDT
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How ...
do we keep CC from going to Milwaukee?
If It Takes Forever ....
by wrigley1 on
Jul 4, 2008 9:23 AM CDT
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Get him ourselves
I know, we don’t have enough. That’s why Hendry needs some magic!
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on
Jul 4, 2008 9:29 AM CDT
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With the pundits saying...
... CC is all but a Brewer, Hendry has to talk to Mark Shapiro and say, “What will it take to get him to us instead of Milwaukee?”
If the cost is not too high, the Cubs have to do it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jul 4, 2008 9:34 AM CDT
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Milwaukee's problem all year
has not been starting pitching. It is innings 6-9. They have lost 19 games when they had the lead, so unless CC is going to pitch 10-12 complete games, he will not solve their problems. Mike Maddux has done a great job taking mediocre guys and turning them into decent starters, but management has given him a crappy back end of the bullpen (Gag-me, Torres) and they had to release Turn-blow.
So if they sign CC, I don’t see how it resolves the Suds real problem this year. It seems they are jsus desperate to have the Cubs not sign him AND they want CC for next year as they are unlikely to sign Sheets next year.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on
Jul 4, 2008 10:52 AM CDT
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Al
Remember all the same pundits who say CC is going to the Brewers were saying Brian Roberts was definitely coming to the Cubs.
Go Cubs
by cubstoseriesby100 on
Jul 4, 2008 11:59 AM CDT
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100% agreed
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on
Jul 4, 2008 12:20 PM CDT
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We can only hope Milwaukee decides that neither LaPorta nor Gamel are worth a rent-a-player
If either is included, nobody else can top the Brewers’ offer. Since they’d get 2 comp picks after losing CC in the off-season anyway, I don’t see why they wouldn’t go for it.
by ohboy on
Jul 4, 2008 9:35 AM CDT
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Half Full
And I think this mini-slump is coming at exactly the right time (a few weeks before the trade deadline) so that it exposes what the Cubs’ real needs are and Hendry goes out and does something. Had they cruised along, there might have been a tendency to not get a certain player and opt for something else.
I think another reliever is a must. I’d go after Brian Fuentes. Now that Marmol has come back to earth the team needs Wood insurance now more than ever, and I’d rather Howry stay as one of the effective set up guys instead of moving him. Obtaining Fuentes serves many purposes- another lefty, because let’s face it. we hold our breath when Cots goes out there and Eyre hasn’t stayed unjury free; he’s a very good set up guy and confuses both righties and lefties with that delievery; and he’s got closer experience in the event that’s needed. I’d rate Fuentes the number one priority. Look at all the games lately that the Cubs led or were close, like yesterday, and then boom!
Spitballing here- is Vizquel worth Cedeno? I think so. If this was covered elsewhere in the last few days I apologize, but I don’t think Cedeno’s head will ever completely be in the game. I’d love to be as physically gifted as him, but the other day, rather than toss to the second baseman for a double playrelay, he ran to the base and lost the out at first, thereby extending the Giants’ inning. It seems he is now making up new ways to mentaly mess up.
Since I live in Long Beach, the Angels have quite the logjam in the infield, still. Macier Izturis will likely never play regularly for them, and he’d be a great everyday shortstop for someone. The guy also plays third and second as if he was born there, and playing under Scioscia, mental mistakes just don’t happen. I’d love to see him in Wrigley, but I don’t know what the Cubs have the Angels would want.
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by BeerCub on
Jul 4, 2008 9:25 AM CDT
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The Cubs have expressed interest in Fuentes.
He has had two major meltdowns in the last week. I’d be leery.
And once again—Omar Vizquel? Please. He’s done. And that’s done in the sense of REALLY done, not Jim Edmonds “done”. Vizquel is hitting .159/.231/.182 in a not-small-sample-size 132 at-bats. If you want a black hole in the lineup every time you trot him out there, then trade for him.
Stay away. FAR away.
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by Al on
Jul 4, 2008 9:36 AM CDT
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Okay then...
... what else? What with all the kvetching about Theriot, who I personally don’t think is all that bad, but I’ll grant could be better, what happens at short? Do you really want to rely on Cedeno in a crucial moment? I think the guy has rocks in his head that will never go away. If we could put Theriot’s head on Cedeno’s body, we’d have an all-star for years, but of course, science hasn’t progressed that far. Just ask Ted Williams.
As for Fuentes, does two bad outings render a guy with an overall solid history not wrth pursuing?
Santo Forever!
by BeerCub on
Jul 4, 2008 9:42 AM CDT
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Renteria?
Detroit may decide not to pick up his 2009 option, and they would want a younger guy to play SS? So would Hendry and Lou give enough weight to experience and a history of better fielding to do a Theriot-Edgar swap? Not that I’m advocating it – just lookin’ for your thoughts.
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by CaliCub on
Jul 4, 2008 1:43 PM CDT
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After Renteria's actions last year when we played the Braves...
....he’s the last guy I’d want on this team.
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by carmen_fanzone on
Jul 4, 2008 2:56 PM CDT
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Glass More Than Half Full; Get AJ
The Cubs are still in first place after losing 7 out of 10. Had the Cardinals won 7 out of their 10, I would not be so optimistic. The Cubs still have the best team in the division. I’m confident the Cubs will get another quality starter. If the Cubs can’t get CC, try AJ. He could really help the club. Yes, AJ has a history of injury problems. No, Burnett hasn’t had the career of Sabathia. AJ would be a good fourth starter for the Cubs. While Marquis has had some good games such as his last start in San Francisco, I trust Burnett to be more consistent than Marquis.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on
Jul 4, 2008 9:40 AM CDT
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It's half a glass of water.
We just went through the toughest portion of our schedule, without Zambrano and Soriano. Not to mention no Reed Johnson, Daryl Ward(for a time), Ramirez missed three games, Marmol is in a slump and we are still in first place.
by Imtrejo on
Jul 4, 2008 9:41 AM CDT
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...and a month with a lot of road games.
Looking at the schedule a month ago, I think any of us would have been pleased to know the Cubs would maintain a 2.5-game lead in the division on July 4th.
by ChipSet on
Jul 4, 2008 9:46 AM CDT
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From June 2 to yesterday
which was the “tough stretch” they had to get through, they went 15-14. Actually I guess the Cardinals series is the last part of this tough stretch, so if they can win one, they will have treaded water at 500 during it. Not great, but by no means a disaster either.
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on
Jul 4, 2008 10:18 AM CDT
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I just have something to get off my cheest...
Why didn’t Trammel bring in Eyre to face Thome in the last game at the Cell? Eyre seemed to be ready in the pen, the game was still within reach, and we would of had a lefty/lefty matchup.
Instead he leaves in Ascanio, Thome hits a 2-R HR, and then the game is out of reach. In the top of the 9th, if you remember, the Cubs had a double (I think Soto) and had guys on 2nd and 3rd. Now a single wouldn’t matter as much.
It was just something that I’ve been thinking about since then and it feels good to get it off of my chest.
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on
Jul 4, 2008 9:41 AM CDT
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Mike Murphy Dissected This
on his show the other day so you have a like-chested compatriot out there.
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by CaliCub on
Jul 4, 2008 1:44 PM CDT
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OT- Francouer Sent to Double A
Not worthy of its own diary here, but the Braves sent him down to work on his hitting. Holy moly.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/07/04/bc.bbn.braves.francoeur.ap/index.html
Felix Pie, you think you got troubles…...
Santo Forever!
by BeerCub on
Jul 4, 2008 10:15 AM CDT
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Apparently it IS worth its own diary. lol
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on
Jul 4, 2008 12:06 PM CDT
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Wow... that's crazy.
I guess those Sports Illustrated covers really do have mysterious voodoo.

I guess is answer is “NO.”
by ElvisCole on
Jul 4, 2008 2:38 PM CDT
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Was Marmol on the cover?
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on
Jul 4, 2008 2:55 PM CDT
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Ascanio was fine
He gave up a bloop hit and wasn’t able to make a great play on a bunt. No reason to take him out.
by kanderber on
Jul 4, 2008 10:29 AM CDT
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It's a numbers game.
Somebody has to leave to make room for Zambrano. He’s the most expendable.
by cwyers on
Jul 4, 2008 10:30 AM CDT
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Agreed.
I was talking about yesterday’s game. I didn’t see any reason to take him out of the game at that point. Lou sometimes has an itchy trigger finger though.
by kanderber on
Jul 4, 2008 11:35 AM CDT
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With runners on base...
... Marmol has been excellent this year. He failed yesterday. If he succeeded, we’d all be talking about how “Marmol is back”.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jul 4, 2008 12:02 PM CDT
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It's probably just a bump in the road for Marmol...
All players go through cold spells during a long season. I mean, seriously, did anyone really expect him to be totally lights out all season long? Everyone has their ups and downs, Marmol included.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Jul 4, 2008 12:26 PM CDT
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I sure hope you're right.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jul 4, 2008 1:05 PM CDT
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He Might Be Overthrowing
the slider and then having to come in with a strike’s strike…or so it looks from out here on the Left Coast. Hopefully it’s a fixable case of the yips and Carlos can regain his early season form.
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by CaliCub on
Jul 4, 2008 1:46 PM CDT
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The fact that he was so unstoppable early
has magnified this slump.
Has anyone checked his velocity? It looked close/same as before to me, but I don’t know for sure.
I think he’s in a bit of a slump and his confidence is prolly shaken. One good inning and he’ll be back… or at least I hope that.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 4, 2008 2:04 PM CDT
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Hoping For The Same
Had he pitched a clean 7th inning on Wed night, I think he gets back on track already.
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by CaliCub on
Jul 4, 2008 2:08 PM CDT
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Right.
But there wasn’t a reason to take Ascanio out. He gave up a bloop hit over Theriot’s head, and then misplayed a bunt. It’s not like he was getting hit hard and should’ve been taken out. It was a dumb move to take him out and bring Marmol in, who has really been struggling. And it didn’t work.
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Jul 4, 2008 3:15 PM CDT
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The Mets are a great ballclub.
Jose Reyes and Keith Hernandez (now a broadcaster for them) are getting into fights on planes.
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Jul 4, 2008 10:32 AM CDT
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At least Kent Mercker and Steve Stone--oh, wait
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
by JohnM on
Jul 4, 2008 10:38 AM CDT
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Hah!
What’s really funny, though, is that Reyes is having the best season of his career on offense.
by cwyers on
Jul 4, 2008 10:39 AM CDT
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Why did Hernandez think he was showing up Delgado
instead of just being pissed at himself?
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Jul 4, 2008 10:44 AM CDT
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Maybe Reyes said, "no play for Mr Grey" to him.
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by LAcarl519 on
Jul 4, 2008 10:58 AM CDT
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KH Is A Schmuck
Great fielder and hitter for average but the personality of a oily rag. So it’s not that surprising to me.
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by CaliCub on
Jul 4, 2008 1:47 PM CDT
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Didn't Kramer get in a fight with KH
at baseball camp on Seinfeld?
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by LAcarl519 on
Jul 4, 2008 2:53 PM CDT
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I think that was Mickey Mantle...
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Jul 4, 2008 3:00 PM CDT
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Correct
Kramer plunked Joe Pepitone, and a brawl ensued in which he punched the Mick. Elaine briefly dated KH,
who had allegedly spit on Kramer and Newman after a Mets’ loss (the real culprit turned out to be Roger McDowell). Sad that I remember all this, but there it is.
"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse
by Goodie1969 on
Jul 4, 2008 3:24 PM CDT
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there you go...
I seemed to recall some run in between Kramer and KH.
Your recall of Seinfeld is amazing.
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Jul 4, 2008 3:27 PM CDT
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Thanks!
It’s of little use to me most of the time but occasionally it comes in handy.
"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse
by Goodie1969 on
Jul 4, 2008 3:32 PM CDT
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"That was one magic loogy!"
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
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Jul 4, 2008 5:29 PM CDT
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Do I want the Brewers to get CC? No.
But it is not necessarily the end of the world. Let’s not forget that everyone said the Mets were going to the World series when they got Santana. Remember, starters only play once every 5 days.
by Rick B on
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very well said..
Good pitching always triumphs Good Offense..but I don’t understand the complete fixation on CC. I don’t like him going to MIL one bit because it would be one additional weapon in the enemy’s hands. Having said that CC is not going to pitch everyday and as such it would not make sense to sell the farm to get him. I will not be surprised to know that Hendry’s focus is not on CC but on a tier below is level.
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And if they gut their farm system
to do it, it’s not a bad thing if they don’t win it all this year.
It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.
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Jul 4, 2008 6:01 PM CDT
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The Cubs have to play well against their division.
They need to have a winning record against the Cards and Brewers. The season starts tonight! It’s time to let LaRussa know his five minutes is up.
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I'm in the (more than) half full camp
if we can get through this 32 game stretch (23 on the road) at close to .500 with as many injuries as we have had—and with D(GIDP)Lee in a funk in the early part, and ARam in a funk now (0-21), I think we will all be happy to just move on. We have lots of games at Wrigley in July.
The fact that we will get through this 32 game stretch with virtually no contribution from Marmol will be amazing. I will say again that the Cubs need a good pitching coach who can work with players and fix problems. Larry Rothschild is no Dave Duncan. But he is not even 50% as good. We are at a HUGE disadvantage in this one position in our coaching. I have said this for three years.
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by LAcarl519 on
Jul 4, 2008 11:07 AM CDT
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The glass is twice as big as it should be
This team is probably the best home team in baseball, and that’s led us to where we are at this point in the season. The starters get deep into the game, the hitters convert runners in scoring position, and the bullpen holds leads. Unfortunately, once they leave Wrigley, the opposite happens far too often for a team of this depth, flexibility, and talent. They know they can win at home, they’re hoping they can win on the road. Once they learn that they’re a good baseball team, and it doesn’t matter where you play, then we’ll all get the championship we covet.
by VolPowers on
Jul 4, 2008 11:18 AM CDT
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Where the Cubs are concerned I tend to be
glass half empty. Although I try to be optomistic. The one thing I truly believe is without Marmol we can not win. Our bullpen, other than Wood and an improving Howry, is awful. Until recently I would cringe every time someone other than Marmol came in. Obiviously so did Lou that is why Marmol was at the risk of being overused. We need him to revert back to his old self, otherwise we are in big trouble.
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Jul 4, 2008 11:49 AM CDT
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though we all agree that Marmol is a concern
I expect Gallagher to be very effective as a 1+ inning guy out of the pen. His problems have typically (until yesterday) been the second time through the order. In short stints, he will be more aggressive, versus when he is a starter and thinking that he has to go 6+ and 90-100 pitches.
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by LAcarl519 on
Jul 4, 2008 12:07 PM CDT
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Overreacting
While I don’t login to BCB worried I will find notices from Al he heard from family members of regulars that they have jumped off the Sears Tower like I do on other sites with the overreacting we have to realize that every team goes through tough stretches,
The team has had a tough stretch. They may have spoiled us somewhat in the early going this season but I think even the 27 Yankees probably had a few bad weeks.
I judge the quality of a team based on 2 1/2 months not 2 weeks.
All the pundits saying the Brewers are going to get CC are the same people that every time they turn on the Cubs are surprised Brian Roberts is not playing 2nd base.
Most predicted Zambrano and Ramirez would go elsewhere. Last time I checked they are both still here.
Go Cubs
by cubstoseriesby100 on
Jul 4, 2008 11:55 AM CDT
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Cardinals
Here I am again forgetting something until after I hit post.
We’re hearing how great the Cardinals are. They were 3.5 games behind us when we started this rough stretch and now they’re 2.5 back. we hear on and on how they didn’t have Pujols. Well he’s been back for awhile while we didn’t have Soriano, Zambrano and Johnson.
Go Cubs
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Jul 4, 2008 11:58 AM CDT
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Kudos to Cubbies and Cards!
The Cubs have had a very, very good season so far. But I think the point on the Cardinals is that virtually everyone wrote them off, and IIRC especially here.
So for a team that no one expected to be in contention to be a mere 2.5 games back is noteworthy. And when you factor in all the injuries they’ve had, well how can you not tip your cap to them and acknowledge what they’ve done so far.
by DrCrawdad on
Jul 4, 2008 12:23 PM CDT
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Both Taking Advantage of A Weak NL
Cubs with their reborn offense and the Cards with their “we’re all in it together” varsity mentality.
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by CaliCub on
Jul 4, 2008 1:49 PM CDT
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I'm a glass half full person.
If Marmol has to have issues now is the time to have them. Get them taken care of and come back after the break ready to play. Hope the second half of the season keeps this team this team healthier.
I just hope Z doesn’t come out wound tighter than an 8 day clock tonight. Just go with it Z and you’ll be fine.
by sue369 on
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+1
I’d love to see Z go six innings with about 80-90 pitches. Then Howry could go 1, possibly 2 innings, then Wood comes in for the save. I’m excited. Can’t wait till tonight. Go Cubs!!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on
Jul 4, 2008 12:34 PM CDT
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Sabathia
I watched the game Sabathia pitched against the Sox because of all the talk. He looked awful.
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by cubstoseriesby100 on
Jul 4, 2008 12:05 PM CDT
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The sox offense can do that to a lot of pitchers quite honestly
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
by CubsBall2202 on
Jul 4, 2008 12:30 PM CDT
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White Sox are a solid ballclub with a solid lineup
Pitching is KING. We don't add a frontline starting pitcher and a quality bullpen arm then this season will have yet another sad conclusion.
by MDBNIU on
Jul 4, 2008 12:40 PM CDT
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Awful?
Sabathia’s line was hardly “awful”. 8 IP, 7 H, 4 ER, 5 K, 2 HR. Not his best and no doubt the Indians would have preferred a perfect game, but not all that bad.
I agree with “CubsBall2202” and “MDBIU.”
by DrCrawdad on
Jul 4, 2008 1:49 PM CDT
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Agreed
For one of his worst starts in two months (against a potent offense), that’s not too shabby. And he generally rests the bullpen pretty nicely, too, when he pitches.
by John Q Freejazz on
Jul 4, 2008 2:07 PM CDT
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Who is MDBIU?
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
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Rotation is mediocre, the bullpen very average
That is my summation of things. Cubs are going to have to make a big move or two to add to this pitching staff. Especially with Milwaukee apparently on the cusp to acquire CC Sabathia. THIS is the year for the Cubs. We are a veteran ballclub with a host of key players in the zenith of their careers. The opportunity to win will never be better than it is right now. Hendry needs to pull out ALL THE STOPS.
Pitching is KING. We don't add a frontline starting pitcher and a quality bullpen arm then this season will have yet another sad conclusion.
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Compared to most teams, I'd say better than average.
Last I checked the Cubs were in the top 5 in ERA and BA against.
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by Bump Bailey on
Jul 4, 2008 1:00 PM CDT
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Don't trouble Blue Mike with the facts.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07
by gary varsho on
Jul 4, 2008 1:05 PM CDT
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I think we should
all just ignore his posts. He just repeats the same thing over and over and over.
by sue369 on
Jul 4, 2008 1:51 PM CDT
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that's been my vote since day 1
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
by Emelie on
Jul 4, 2008 2:36 PM CDT
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true
but you’ll get everyone to agree to that.. people have too much fun harping on him.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Jul 4, 2008 2:45 PM CDT
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marmol
is he tired,or is he injured????this is what happens when you use this guy in 12-6 games.lou went to the well once to often and now is paying for it.
by NOMAR on
Jul 4, 2008 1:59 PM CDT
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Put it on the board, HALF FULL!
The Cubbies have some concerns, but which team doesn’t?
It’s July 3rd and the Cubbies are in first place. Half full.
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A Couple More Thoughts
1) A while back I offered this strategy for beating the Cards – “you have to out-Cardinal them”. In other words, the Cubs need to avoid the serious errors in the field and have good at-bats and basically not beat themselves. That seems to be the Cards’ formula for success, so I feel if the Cubs can combine solid fundamentals with the pure talent they have then they’ll maintain first place.
2) Since it seems pretty likely that CC is going to Milwaukee, the Cubs’ best option might be to fortify their bench and bullpen and strive for a stronger overall team as they head into the dog days. Maybe they even add a Maddux-Wolf-Padilla caliber starter as well. I’ve always believed that teams win championships, so the more well-rounded you are the better.
3) Please, everyone have a safe and sane day today! Enjoy yourselves but use good sense.
4) I lost one of my dogs last night to congestive heart failure. The doctor said there was no suffering at the end, thank goodness. My wife and I have no children so our pets are our “kids”. BCB has helped take my mind off things, so I want to thank Al and everyone here.
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by CaliCub on
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Sorry to hear to hear about your dog.
I’m glad there was no sufffering for it at the end. I hope the Cubs can get a win tonight and help with some of your pain.
by sue369 on
Jul 4, 2008 2:08 PM CDT
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I'm so sorry to hear about your dog
my dog’s like my kid as well, and can’t imagine losing her. God bless.
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Sorry about the dog
Always hard to loss a beloved pet. Check out your local pound. Lots of dogs needing a good home.
Pitching is KING. We don't add a frontline starting pitcher and a quality bullpen arm then this season will have yet another sad conclusion.
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I am so sorry to hear about your dog.
We put our first border collie down 18 months ago (he too had congestive heart failure), but his ashes are in the den with us and so he still enjoys the Cub games with me and my two new border collies.
For my wife and I, the dogs are our kids too!
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by LAcarl519 on
Jul 4, 2008 2:32 PM CDT
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I'm so sorry
there’s nothing harder than losing one of our furry companions. My heart goes out to you, CaliCub.
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
by Emelie on
Jul 4, 2008 2:38 PM CDT
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Sorry for your loss, CaliCub
No matter how gradual or sudden it happens, I know it hurts just as much. God be with you.
"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse
by Goodie1969 on
Jul 4, 2008 3:46 PM CDT
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Half full, now. Was half empty when I woke up.
After a really loooooong 4-day work week, the last thing I needed last night was a Cubs loss. But, Al’s recaps often help me step off the ledge and this one really did the trick. Thanks Al. I have a good feeling about this weekend. Scarlos Z. coming back will be the shot in the arm the Cubs need to get back to winning baseball. “Say hello to my little friend, Cardinals fans!” LOL.
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Jul 4, 2008 2:29 PM CDT
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Me and my wife are getting DirecTV
when we move into our first house together on the 14th. Any suggestions on it? I’m getting the sports pack along with my DVR. The people who have it, do you like it?
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by Unique on
Jul 4, 2008 2:29 PM CDT
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I believe the HD baseball package is a premium
to the basic baseball package, but well worth it. Baseball in HD is addictive. I am not sure you need to pay the premium if you are in Chicago as you may get Comcast and WGN in HD anyway. But if you are outside Chicago, like I am, it is the only way to see the vast majority of the Cub games in HD.
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by LAcarl519 on
Jul 4, 2008 2:35 PM CDT
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I moved from Chicago 2 years ago,
and I now reside in North Carolina. I’m holding off on getting the HD package. I’m getting a new TV next month (It was due).
With the Sports Pack though, I see that I will get ComCast Chicago. So now I’ll be able to catch most if not all of the games! Right?!
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by Unique on
Jul 4, 2008 2:39 PM CDT
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Not unless you buy the MLB EI package
comcast chicago will be blacked out during games. You can’t get over on the cable company (or the satellite company)
by LT on
Jul 4, 2008 2:42 PM CDT
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Why would it be
blacked out? I get CSN and watch all of the Cubs games they carry.
by sue369 on
Jul 4, 2008 2:44 PM CDT
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It's called a monopoly
MLB does it because they can. Buy the full baseball package or you get squat.
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by LAcarl519 on
Jul 4, 2008 2:48 PM CDT
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And even then you can't get 100% of the games...
Living in NC he will be blacked out when the Cubs play the Braves…
by LT on
Jul 4, 2008 2:53 PM CDT
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Because it's outside of the designated broadcast territory for the Cubs.
by cwyers on
Jul 4, 2008 2:48 PM CDT
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That freaking sucks.
Well that has ruined my whole day. Thanks MLB.
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by Unique on
Jul 4, 2008 2:49 PM CDT
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So if a guy in Seattle
gets CSN and watches that channel all the time (not just games) through DirecTV he still has to have the MLB package?
by sue369 on
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Yes.
But he can watch the Mariners on Fox Sports Net on cable. No free TV for Mariners anymore here. Everythings on FSN.
Baseball is too much of a sport to be a business and too much of a business to be a sport.
William Wrigley Jr
by bubbamike the one and only on
Jul 4, 2008 3:14 PM CDT
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I'm not sure he
watches them. He’s a Cubs and WS fan.
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Cubs AND White Sox?
Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager
by northsider on
Jul 4, 2008 3:56 PM CDT
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It happens.
Baseball is too much of a sport to be a business and too much of a business to be a sport.
William Wrigley Jr
by bubbamike the one and only on
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Yeah I know.
He wasn’t the person I thougt he was and it’s not because of his WS fandom either.
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Jul 4, 2008 4:42 PM CDT
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Well no one is
who we thought they were or who we wished they would be. Sad but we are all just fallible people.
Hey do I know you, I’m in Seattle and I’m a Cubs and used to be a Sox fan until I ran into other Sox fans who made me sick, shellfish need not respond.
Baseball is too much of a sport to be a business and too much of a business to be a sport.
William Wrigley Jr
by bubbamike the one and only on
Jul 4, 2008 4:47 PM CDT
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No I don't know you. :D
This guy still is fans of both.
by sue369 on
Jul 4, 2008 7:16 PM CDT
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Wow
that sucks. I might as well cancel the Sports Pack.
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by Unique on
Jul 4, 2008 2:46 PM CDT
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Check with them first.
Find out if that is true. I know people in Seattle who have DirecTV and have the sports package and are not blacked out.
by sue369 on
Jul 4, 2008 2:49 PM CDT
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Ok.
I have family in Virginia and they get the games with the package, but I dunno. Maybe they bought the EI package. I’m not sure.
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by Unique on
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Ok, thanks.
Now my day has went from great to disappointing. LOL. It’ll all cure if the Cubs win and DirecTV will carry my games.
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by Unique on
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Do a search on here...
I believe Al or someone else did a fanpost listing all the broadcast territories for different states and teams.
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by Bump Bailey on
Jul 4, 2008 3:09 PM CDT
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They would be blacked out from watching the cubs on CSN
unless they have MLB EI. If you are out of the Cubs “territory” you will be blacked out if you have only the sports tier.
by LT on
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We enjoy getting
CSN. When you get HD that is one of the HD stations. We did get the HD package and there are so many HD stations. Very nice to have.
by sue369 on
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The general sports package (w/Comcast)
will not give you the baseball games unless you buy the MLB package too. The games will be blocked unless you buy the MLB package. You have to buy it all. Alll you will get on Comcast is local track meets, horse racing and high school sports…throughout America!! What a deal.
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by LAcarl519 on
Jul 4, 2008 2:43 PM CDT
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way to support your fans, mlb
sheesh.
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Never Thought I'd Say This
but the abject greed of Selig and owners is worse than that of the players and agents. Careful not to kill that golden goose, Bud.
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by CaliCub on
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Only true if you live out of market.
Illinois, Iowa, Indiana and parts of Ohio get Cubs games.
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We have it and like it
a lot. Whenever I’ve called customer service it has been great. We get all the sports channels and several movie channels. The only thing they don’t offer is WGN in HD. I don’t know why either. Hope you like it.
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Off to enjoy the day!
hope everyone has a good 4th. please. stay safe!
go cubs!
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Same here...
Time to fire up the old Weber and grill some animal flesh. I should be back here to enjoy a Cubs victory with everyone. Then I can shoot off some fireworks to celebrate the win. Have fun and stay safe!
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
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Marmol
This may sound crazy, but assuming that there’s nothing physically wrong with Marmol, why not reverse his and Kerry Wood’s roles for a few games? i.e.bring in Wood for the 7th and/or 8th and then use Marmol as the closer. A save or two would really restore Marmol’s confidence. And if he were to continue in his funk and blow the game, we wouldn’t be any worse off than if he’d blown it in the 7th & 8th. In any case, without Marmol, Cubs are toast. He’s really the one constant in our second half sucess last year and first half this year.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
by sweetswinger on
Jul 4, 2008 3:00 PM CDT
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no help from Pirates today.
Brewers leading 9-1 in 8th. I think they will hold this lead.
If we win, we don’t have to look down.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on
Jul 4, 2008 3:46 PM CDT
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I hate to be "that" guy that says it, but, well, Al...
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
by NittanyCub on
Jul 4, 2008 4:06 PM CDT
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