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Overflow Thread 1: Cubs vs. Cardinals, Friday 7/4, 7:15 CT

Must. Win. Today.

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Let's pad the lead.

Keep up the great work, Carlos!

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 4, 2008 8:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Question:

You a Jazz fan? If so that makes 4. :P

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Boo! -1

Don’t knock my Jazz!!!!

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW, why didn't they change their name when they moved?

I’m sorry, but the last thing that comes to my mind when I think about Utah is jazz ;)

by cocknfire on Jul 4, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol.

I hate the Lakers more than any team except the Cards.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I cant hate anyone as much as the Cards

But the Lakers and Boston fans are tied for second

by BradB311 on Jul 4, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point

I’m not really much of an NBA fan. Living in ATL will do that to you

by cocknfire on Jul 4, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Winning tradition

I think. That and LA-kers kind of works. Kind of.

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by Josh Timmers on Jul 4, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

No clue.

They moved the year I was born.

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

They didn't change the name

because they had a whole ton of merchandise with “Jazz” on it that they didn’t want to throw away.

Seriously.

The business of the NBA was a lot different back then than it is now.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 4, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

That makes sense, actually

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

the Jazz are huge here. They have the loudest croud in the NBA

by BradB311 on Jul 4, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

you, me, cubbiegirl, and I'm guessing UTCubs. ;)

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah.

Well, 3 then.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jazz? Jazz?

there was a Doctor Jazz on Montrose. Jazz Record Mart? New Orleans Jazz, them I remember, but out side of that. . . ;-p

Baseball is too much of a sport to be a business and too much of a business to be a sport.
William Wrigley Jr

by bubbamike the one and only on Jul 4, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

that whopping 300

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Is it too much to ask

to ask the boys to run up Looper’s pitch count?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Nope, I don't think it's possible to ask too much this year.

;)

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's already @ 90

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

That Brenly-ism was not too bright

Yeah, Bob, pitch count means ya need to try and pitch less pitches. Genius.

by Unrestricted View on Jul 4, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

LMAO HE’S KINDA TODAYS HARRY!

by UTCUBS on Jul 4, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply actions  

The sausage dog?

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's cute. :)

My parents have a golden lab who’s running around here like a maniac as I cheer. :P

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

We have always

had German Shorthairs for my husband. He loves to hunt.

by sue369 on Jul 4, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

BUT IN HARRYS DEFENSE HE WAS DRUNK LOVED THAT GUY

by UTCUBS on Jul 4, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Harry was the man

He wished me a happy 11th birthday on WGN at my first cubs game

by BradB311 on Jul 4, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1 RIGHT ON MY DAD GOT A PIC WITH HIM A S/T

by UTCUBS on Jul 4, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awwww.

AWESOME!

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I have it on video tape. It was awesome. Nobody made a game as exciting as Harry

by BradB311 on Jul 4, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

just friendly fyi

watch the caps lock, and try to use the reply button. it flows better. :-)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honesty compels me to admit

that Z looks awesome tonight, and I was just hoping for good. Glad I was wrong.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed.

I’m so glad to have him back!!!

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

i love me some z

:-)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

74

labour-free pitches so far…two more innings…please?

I'm not a religious man, but I pray for Carlos Marmol's arm...and psyche.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 4, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

That was a nice shot by DLee.

Bring him in Rami!!!

Slump busting time!!!

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

I love hearing the "Let's Go Cubbies!!" chant in another ballpark besides Wrigley

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. - Dave Barry

by Barkman on Jul 4, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

ME TOO!

Wrigley Field West, baby!

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

no.

no it wasn’t.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sadly, I must report

that the high socks are not helping Ramy at all.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions  

somethin about the Nine Inch Nails

being around long enough that you’d think they’d at least me 10 or 11 in. somethin to that effect

by BradB311 on Jul 4, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

that is bad. wow

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Peoria's up 6-3

on their way to 11 in a row.

Smokies lost, D-Cubs lost. I-Cubs are tied.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 4, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

I love that Ryno's team is doing well. :)

It makes me smile every day.

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Geo time!!!

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

They might pitch around Geo to pitch to DeRo...

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep.

Make em pay Dero, make em pay!

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

DeRo

has looked pretty awkward against Looper, so it’s probably a good call…til DeRo goes YARD!

I hope.

I'm not a religious man, but I pray for Carlos Marmol's arm...and psyche.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 4, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

DeRo is 1-11 vs. Looper...

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why is Looper smiling all the time?

man, I hate the Cardinals

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. - Dave Barry

by Barkman on Jul 4, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

really

I’m glad I’m not the only one weirded out by his constant, enormous grin

by Caheisey on Jul 4, 2008 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soto BB

First and second, two out

by cocknfire on Jul 4, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh man. :(

Geo is slow.

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

twss

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

I guess “Speedy” won’t be his nickname.

by Unrestricted View on Jul 4, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep.

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ladies don't poop

they are above elimination.

Baseball is too much of a sport to be a business and too much of a business to be a sport.
William Wrigley Jr

by bubbamike the one and only on Jul 4, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

But it's my

signature saying. and I am a lady. :P

by sue369 on Jul 4, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

bad call Geo

looks like a nail biter tonight!!!

I'm not a religious man, but I pray for Carlos Marmol's arm...and psyche.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 4, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

what else do you expect?

it is a CUBS game! :)

The 100th time has GOT to be a charm...

by cubswgnrocks on Jul 4, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

well he hasn't even attempted a sb this season

so safe bet he is SLOW

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one really scared to see the other Carlos tonight?

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. - Dave Barry

by Barkman on Jul 4, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Nope.

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not scared

Just concerned that all that pitching earlier this year wore him out a bit

by cocknfire on Jul 4, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

be surprised to see Marmol if it's still 2-0

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

i’d bet for howry instead

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Howry could go 2 innings and then Wood closes..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 4, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rami should have let that one go

AFter the 4-3 one batter earlier, Pujols is on w/one out

by cocknfire on Jul 4, 2008 8:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Crazy

Where’s Yosh when ya need him.

by Unrestricted View on Jul 4, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

looked like it was staying

fair…hopefully he bares down on Ankiel, who has hit the ball hard a couple times.

I'm not a religious man, but I pray for Carlos Marmol's arm...and psyche.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 4, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm.....

Maybe Ramy needs a day off. New baby + 8 hour flight + 4 hour time change = tired ballplayer.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Aram should have made that out.

"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Jul 4, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply actions  

trouble brewing...

walk to Ankiel…let’s go, Z!!!

I'm not a religious man, but I pray for Carlos Marmol's arm...and psyche.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 4, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I call

Glaus 6-4-3 DP

I'm not a religious man, but I pray for Carlos Marmol's arm...and psyche.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 4, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

just say no to bad innings.

by ballstitch on Jul 4, 2008 8:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Ken Rosenthal

is saying that the Dodgers have jumped into the Sabathia sweepstakes. If they’re willing to deal Kemp, this could get interesting.

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by Josh Timmers on Jul 4, 2008 8:56 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd rather that

than Milwuakee.

I'm not a religious man, but I pray for Carlos Marmol's arm...and psyche.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 4, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rather them than MIL

Buster Olney practically drools all over himself talkinga bout CC to MIL

by cocknfire on Jul 4, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes he is

although Rosenthal isn’t reporting on Kemp. I’m just taking the earlier pronouncement that Kemp is available and making a guess.

Rosenthal is saying they want to deal Andy LaRoche, but they might have to deal LaRoche to Pittsburgh for, get this, Jack Wilson.

As if Pittsburgh doesn’t have enough of the LaRoche kids.

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by Josh Timmers on Jul 4, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it will make you feel better,

the Cubs are leading 2-0.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

They need a SS more than a SP.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

They have a shortstop.

What they need is the ability to rationally analyze the talent on hand.

by cwyers on Jul 4, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you thinking Nomar? Berroa? Hu?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

They're talking about sending Hu too

for CC. But again, Rosenthal says they want Jack Wilson, and they need to send some prospects that way.

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by Josh Timmers on Jul 4, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO

He sure spent a lot on Furcal, though

by cocknfire on Jul 4, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

he likes “gritty veterans.” He spent an awful lot of money on Juan Pierre and Andruw Jones.

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by Josh Timmers on Jul 4, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not nearly as bad as Zito.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Except no one anticipated Zito's slide

You could see Andruw’s coming a mile away. He already sucked when they shelled out that money.

The Zito deal was bad, but there were a lot of teams that were in the running to look like fools on that one.

by cocknfire on Jul 4, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think everyone anticipated Zito's slide.

People just underestimated how quickly it was coming. It was pretty obvious that he wasn’t the same pitcher he was a few years ago.

by cwyers on Jul 4, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

I think both you and I predicted it on this board.

Zito hasn’t been a great pitcher since 2002 and had been getting worse every year after that.

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by Josh Timmers on Jul 4, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

And people tend to seriously underestimate just how much of a pitcher’s park the Coliseum is. It’s as bad as Petco.

by cwyers on Jul 4, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Remember,

Andruw is, at the very least, a great defensive CF, unlike Pierre. Admittedly, defense-only guys aren’t worth $18M, but it’s only 2 years. Even if Zito were decent, 8 years is a long time for a SP.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pierre's an underrated defensive CFer.

Jones is a symptom of a deeper organizational dysfunction more than anything else. The Zito contract is just stupid on stilts.

by cwyers on Jul 4, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Except that he can't throw as well as I can.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw

Bengie Molina score from first on a single hit to Juan Pierr in center. Watching Pierre roll the ball toward home plate and Molina crawl in the same direction was fascinating.

(I’m kidding. But he’s got a terrible arm.)

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by Josh Timmers on Jul 4, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but he's got range.

You can’t make a throw on a ball you can’t even get to. You can hide an arm like his out in center or left.

by cwyers on Jul 4, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depends on the range and the arm...

...as well as the position. But generally speaking, true talent level for a throwing arm for an outfielder is +/- 5 runs from the average. True talent level for fielding (catching the ball, basically) is +/- 15 runs. So range, especially in CF, is more important. In RF, there’s a certain bare minimum arm strength you have to posses.

by cwyers on Jul 4, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Twins had a bounty of CFers...

...with Jones and Hunter. They went ahead and basically wrecked Jones’ career by moving him to a corner. He was a really good CFer, defensively and offensively.

by cwyers on Jul 4, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

He actually

was a pretty good defensive CF for us last season.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 4, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you classify DeRo

as having adequate RF arm strength?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure he does.

He can play third base, if nothing else. Don’t have Excel at work, or I’d check the ratings.

by cwyers on Jul 4, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

His defense is down a bit too

And, at some point, you’ve got to hit as an outfielder, and every team in the majors know that if you throw it down and away, Jones will keep hacking

by cocknfire on Jul 4, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's currently hitting .206.

That’s why they traded for Berroa. Can they afford to be that patient when the west is so winnable?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

The West is so winnable every year.

And it’s that attitude that makes them shell out buckets of money on pure crap in free agency. How in the world a team with Kemp and Ethier ends up with Pierre and Jones baffles the crap out of me.

by cwyers on Jul 4, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sebathia

would make a big difference in the West. The west Sucks

by BradB311 on Jul 4, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats stupid

(not you) but the dogders don’t need pitching. they can’t score.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow...

Interesting that..

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 4, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pop out

2 down…one more, baby.

I'm not a religious man, but I pray for Carlos Marmol's arm...and psyche.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 4, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Let him go one more

he hasn’t laboured at all…come on, Lou! The bullpen blows these days!

I'm not a religious man, but I pray for Carlos Marmol's arm...and psyche.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 4, 2008 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

how about some insurance runs

so Z can sit and we can relax. He’s got pretty good stuff tonight but no reason to push him comin off the DL

by BradB311 on Jul 4, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's official...

Z is done for the night…guess it’s the right call…as long as they win.

I'm not a religious man, but I pray for Carlos Marmol's arm...and psyche.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

What are you talking about?

He’s at the plate…

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go Yard Z!

Get your own insurance if the boys won’t help you out.

I'm not a religious man, but I pray for Carlos Marmol's arm...and psyche.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Howry up in Cubs bullpen

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Z grounds out

Will Feisty let him pitch?

by cocknfire on Jul 4, 2008 9:03 PM CDT reply actions  

doubt it...but we'll see

Lou is old school

I'm not a religious man, but I pray for Carlos Marmol's arm...and psyche.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

no way.

85-90 was the pitch count for the night. I assume Howry will be in.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 4, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the bottom of the order, though.

He can handle that.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

You'd think a shoulder

is not the thing to mess around with. Being a pitcher and all.

by Unrestricted View on Jul 4, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

who is this guy singing the stretch/

i ddn’t catch the name

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions  

he called the cubs/cards rivilary

which was cool.

and it wasn’t bad overal.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

you’re feeling fiesty tonight, huh? you’re usually the non-sarcastic one!

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I need to try harder, then

I’m shy in real life, but sarcastic

by cocknfire on Jul 4, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

hehe

:-)

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

your lucky sb isnt here tonight :)

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

cwyers

Where do you rank Lillibridge on your SS meter?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 9:07 PM CDT reply actions  

He's having an off season at AAA.

His trade value is probably down. Would I want him? Sure.

by cwyers on Jul 4, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's blocked by Escobar. They also have Hernandez behind him.

I wonder what Frank Wren thinks his value is right now.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sending Francouer down...

...tells me the Braves are close to throwing in the towel. They’ll probably be sellers, not buyers.

by cwyers on Jul 4, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

60% of their projected rotation is on the DL, 20% was...

There injury list has made the Cubs’ look trivial.

They haven’t been able to sit Francoeur (even though he’s been hurt all year), and give him a chance to work in the cage, because their OF has been so banged up. Now, the problem is so bad they had to send him down. Kotsay still isn’t healthy.

Bobby Cox is a fighter, but even he knows that being swept at home by the Phils is pretty much it—especially since the WC will probably come from the Central.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I used to cover a couple Braves game every now and then when our beat reporter needed a day off

It was astonishing to see how many silver linings Cox can find

Guy gives up seven runs—“I thought he was gonna throw a no-hitter with that stuff. They just got ahold of a few of em.”

by cocknfire on Jul 4, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even if Cox refuses to give up...

...Wren and Schuerholtz aren’t going to trade away young players for rentals to indulge him. They know this isn’t their year.

by cwyers on Jul 4, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Cox is a former GM.

He knows not to do something stupid in their current position.

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by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

They can't re-sign him

Boras is his agent and the Braves don’t have the money

Could keep him for the draft picks, I guess…

by cocknfire on Jul 4, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just guessin'...

No. I think they still feel they have a shot to sign him. If they trade him, he won’t come back.

Even though he’s a Boras guy, his wife is from Atlanta and he went to Ga. Tech. If the Braves can come close to the Yankees’ offer, he might stay.

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by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would be stunned if Tex is in Atlanta next year

Absolutely floored

They hate to break their budget, and re-signing Tex would force them to

by cocknfire on Jul 4, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Nats

want him bad and the Yankees probably do too.

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by Josh Timmers on Jul 4, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's 2!!!

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

With all those leftys..

why did TLR use a righty PH?

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by Bump Bailey on Jul 4, 2008 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Because DUI is smarter tha ANYONE ELSE IN THE GAME

He thinks on a plane above the game.

He has created a new game to take baseball’s place.

Only he and Buzz Bissinger know the secrets of the new game.

by cocknfire on Jul 4, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL..

Buzz and TRL…now that’s a tag team…

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by Bump Bailey on Jul 4, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

120 pitches for

looper. wow

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

F7

And Howry has a 1-2-3 inning

by cocknfire on Jul 4, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

that makes me happy

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by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

me too

atta boy, bobby!

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Flyout to left

Nice work Howry!

I’d love some insurance runs here…

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Geico!

we need you!

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good job Howry

We need him to get going. Otherwise, the Cubs will need another setupman.

by Geo4MVP on Jul 4, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Bottom 8

will be interesting…I’m guessing Howry stays in, but there are a lot of leftys coming up, and Ryan Ludwick lurks on the bench.

How bout a few runs so it’s not an issue?

I'm not a religious man, but I pray for Carlos Marmol's arm...and psyche.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Why in the world does Chris Siegfried

get paid to play professional baseball?

(OK, I know I’m the only person here who even knows who he is, unless Oneri Flieta is reading. If so: HI ONERI!)

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by Josh Timmers on Jul 4, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply actions  

A sight for DeRo's sore eyes...

A Looper-less mound.

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by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 9:13 PM CDT reply actions  

did he look bad against looper?

i know he didn’t do much, but did he look bad?

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

First 2 ABs he did, 1-12 career...

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by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Josh

How is Alex Maestri doing?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 9:13 PM CDT reply actions  

He's been promoted

to AA and has gotten two starts. He’s giving up home runs but the rest of his peripherals are good. The ERA is bad but the K:BB ratio is great.

But it’s also a really small sample size; both for good and bad.

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by Josh Timmers on Jul 4, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for keeping up with the guys down there.

I appreciate your reports.

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by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maestri

is someone I’m really proud of as he was an unknown guy I saw here in Boise two years ago and said that guy might be something. To see him actually become a prospect gives me great pride. Now I’m just worried we’re going to trade him. :-)

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by Josh Timmers on Jul 4, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would you call him a "B level" prospect?

Or is it too early to say?

I wonder if the Cubs will let him play in the WBC. He might have DeRo as a teammate if they do.

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by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pat just almost caused Ron more heart probs

He said cubs can be up by 5 1/2 if they sweep. but he thinks the cards were looking to take over first if they swept

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by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:14 PM CDT reply actions  

lol

ron almost gagged on that. he was like “ugh. don’t say that!”

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

DON'T JINX IT!!!!!

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah that was painful

I was just telling my dad how great he is at the plate. D’oh.

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty much.

I was raving about his patience at the plate…

Nice to see DLee back in form though. :)

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

ARam flies to center

Time for the 8th and Feisty’s decision

by cocknfire on Jul 4, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply actions  

At least he hit it far in the air this time.

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

It wasn't bad, middle of center.

But thankfully not another bloopy grounder.

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT: i love america

but damn… these fireworks are DRIVING me crazy

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply actions  

I was just thinking exactly that

Im just happy that hearing them is all Im doing :)

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

me too

i’m in my room with the window shut. so its muffled.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

again me also... although im in my livingroom

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay Howry.

Keep it up.

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 9:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Koyie Hill

just went deep.

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by Josh Timmers on Jul 4, 2008 9:22 PM CDT reply actions  

TWSS?

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like seeing Pujols

when he isn’t the tying run.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Pat just agreed w/ you

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pie

just singled home Patterson and then Micah Hoffpauir went deep. 8-3 I-Cubs.

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by Josh Timmers on Jul 4, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Micah homered

last Sat. too. Glad to see Pie is hitting.

by sue369 on Jul 4, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sue

what have i told you about your foul language

by BradB311 on Jul 4, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

You must be

new here. You’ll get use to it. :D

by sue369 on Jul 4, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

I’ll let it slide i guess

by BradB311 on Jul 4, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Trust me that's

nothing compared to what you would be reading from the ledge jumpers if we were behind.

by sue369 on Jul 4, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pujols HR right by the pole.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

I think it hit the pole

like it matters. Not sure if I like the Cotts/Ankiel matchup.

We’ll soon find out.

by Unrestricted View on Jul 4, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

The net.

But still.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

And ESPN rejoices

“We can show an Albert Pujols highlight!!!!”

by cocknfire on Jul 4, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't you know Its the

All Yankee/BoSox for ESPN this weekend

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

whose comingin Kerry?

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Cotts

to face Ankiel…I’m ready to poop myself

I'm not a religious man, but I pray for Carlos Marmol's arm...and psyche.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

TMI

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

just a little lol

by UTCUBS on Jul 4, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

more TMI

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

lmao

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

A-Ram

Should take some batting practice against Marmol?

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by sweetswinger on Jul 4, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

no Marquis

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't put him in this game.

I’ve been a fan of keeping him in the running, but not going to lie, I would have either gone Cotts or Woody here.

These are the saddest of possible words: "Tinker to Evers to Chance"

by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

Marmol needs to get his head straight again

by cocknfire on Jul 4, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

can we stop calling it a foul pole?

the pole is fair… why do they keep calling it foul? gah

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 9:30 PM CDT reply actions  

why do they call it ovaltine? the jar is round!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 4, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Got him!

I'm not a religious man, but I pray for Carlos Marmol's arm...and psyche.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

YAY COTTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by slcathena on Jul 4, 2008 9:30 PM CDT reply actions  

big C?

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, everyone on three. One, two, three...

GEICO!!!!

I'm not a religious man, but I pray for Carlos Marmol's arm...and psyche.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions  

This Game

IMO will be a measure what kind of team these Cubs really are.

"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI

by sweetswinger on Jul 4, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Old School Coors Game

13-12 Marlins in the 6th.

I'm not a religious man, but I pray for Carlos Marmol's arm...and psyche.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Cotts still scares me

Dont Know if your getting 05 Cotts or 06 Cotts

by cubbierc on Jul 4, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

I am agreeing w/ you

I’ll be happy if I could think of him as Big C

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed just thought i would start something

by UTCUBS on Jul 4, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just want to say...

This has been a great thread tonight…

Maximum baseball, minimum bitching. Thanks, everyone!

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 4, 2008 9:33 PM CDT reply actions  

it has been pretty nice

quiet too.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 4, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

not really anything to bitch about

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

approved for cleverness

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

so far there has been nothing to bitch about

hence the nice thread..

””done back peddling for now”“

"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 4, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's all because

it’s my first game thread in over a year. :-)

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8 lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 4, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Someone must have missed an extra point.

"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI

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