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Chicago Cubs at St. Louis Cardinals, Jul 5, 2008 2:55 PM CDT



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Chicago Cubs
@ St. Louis Cardinals

Saturday, Jul 5, 2008, 2:55 PM CDT
Busch Stadium

Ted Lilly vs Kyle Lohse

Clear. Winds blowing from left to right field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 85.

Complete Coverage >


The weather's going to be great in St. Louis. The even better news, for those of you who aren't scheduled to get this game on the Fox-TV channel in your area, is the weather forecast for New York City:'
This Afternoon: A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Some of the storms could produce heavy rain. Cloudy, with a high near 79. Calm wind. Chance of precipitation is 50%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.

Why is this good? Because the Yankees/Red Sox game is Fox's only other game today. If that game is rain-delayed or rained out, Fox will have to send the Cubs and Cardinals to the entire country (except for NYC and Boston).

So do your rain dance for New York!

Lineup, courtesy of Bruce Miles:

Theriot, SS Fukudome, RF Lee, 1B Ramirez, 3B Edmonds, CF Soto, C DeRosa, LF Fontenot, 2B Lilly, P

Today's Starting Pitchers
Ted Lilly
T. Lilly
Cubs
vs. Kyle Lohse
K. Lohse
Cardinals
9-5 W-L 10-2
4.56 ERA 3.67
100 SO 50
38 BB 26
18 HR 7
vs. StL -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Ted Lilly 9-5 18 18 0 0 0 0 106.2 101 57 54 18 38 100 4.56 1.30


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Kyle Lohse 10-2 18 18 0 0 0 0 105.1 108 46 43 7 26 50 3.67 1.27

Ted Lilly threw seven strong innings against the Cardinals on May 3 in St. Louis, and won, the only game the Cubs won in that series. A repeat performance today would be great. Kyle Lohse was the losing pitcher that afternoon, and the Cubs beat him up pretty good, including a three-run HR from Mike Fontenot (obviously, this is why Li'l Mikey is getting the start today). Otherwise, Mark DeRosa also hits Lohse well (6-for-13, a HR), and is in LF today.

As noted above, today's game is on Fox. At posting time there was no available link on the Fox Sports site showing how many markets were carrying this game, but since Fox's other game today is Yankees/Red Sox, I'm guessing it's not many outside the Midwest. For other games today see the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2008 version)

Baseball-reference.com game preview

Today's first pitch thread will post just before the actual first pitch, at 2:45 pm CT. The overflow comment threads will post at 4:00 pm and 5:00 pm CT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Go Cubs !!

"I don’t believe that things go your way," said Lou Piniella, the Cubs manager.
"I believe you make things go your way."

by Basman on Jul 5, 2008 12:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

With Soriano supposedly taking BP today, things are starting to look really good.

Hopefully he goes down to AAA and gets the junk out of his system, comes up here and gets white hot the rest of the way.

Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs

by nji232 on Jul 5, 2008 12:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

When is he supposed to b back??

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 5, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Tribune hinted that he might not be back in the big leagues till right after the All-Star break.

So his first major league at-bats will most likely be the All-Star game itself

Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs

by nji232 on Jul 5, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

It’d be nice if he could face MLB pitching without having it count for anything. Unless you count the World Series.
Thanks Bud!

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 5, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the world series hasn’t counted since 1973! lol.

"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella

by anormal on Jul 5, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good news? Lou isn't recklessly comitted to running Johnson...

...onto the field day after day against RHP.

Bad news? Mike Fontenot.

by cwyers on Jul 5, 2008 12:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Usually I also hate Fontenot in the lineup, I'll give him a pass right now because of his SF heroics.

That being said my opinion can turn .

Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs

by nji232 on Jul 5, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs

by nji232 on Jul 5, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Fontenot can do to Lohse what he did the last time he faced him...

... you’ll forgive his mediocre fielding.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 5, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus, it puts DeRo in LF -- not one of his better spots --

especially with a fly ball P on the mound.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 5, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you were talking yesterday about

SS that you covet. Do you have a top 5?

by BradB311 on Jul 5, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D'ya mean overall, or guys that are available?

I’d take Troy Tulowitczki in a heartbeat, but he’s not available.

by cwyers on Jul 5, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As far as what's available...

...here’s a short list. The Jays also have McDonald and Scutaro – I’d ask about them as well, if it were me. No on Lugo and Vizquel (they really suck) and no on Alex Gonzales and Christian Guzman (not available).

by cwyers on Jul 5, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like seeing

Lou getting Dome acclimated to hitting second in preparation for Sori’s return. This is where those Riot singles will come in handy.

I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.

by neverAcquiesce on Jul 5, 2008 12:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So far, in July...

...Theriot is hitting .154/.267/.154. When am I going to start hearing people asking about a rest day for Theriot every at-bat, like they do for Lee and Fukudome?

by cwyers on Jul 5, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rest Theriot

and make my man Cwyers happy by acquiring Khalil!

Eat More Katsui

by CaliCub on Jul 5, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

it’s been 4 games, after he hit over 300 in each of April, May and June.

by cubsfan25 on Jul 5, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here we go...

Let’s look at OPS cwyers, that’s a great idea, the guy’s PHYSICALLY limited.

You’d rather have John McDonald? If we look at any offensive category, when’s he hit well?

I understand he’s one of the best defensively, and that’s why he has a job, but give Theriot a break.

by serbianking33 on Jul 5, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...what, is there a quota system now for guys who can't hit for power?

Yes, I’d rather have McDonald. Or Scutaro. Or Eckstein. Or Crosby. Or Greene. Or Wilson.

by cwyers on Jul 5, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well,

I guess you have good reason.

by serbianking33 on Jul 5, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yet

Theriot numbers including OPS is alot better then all of those guys right now. Umm hitting for average and getting OBP is good to you know.

by cubsfan25 on Jul 5, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to cwyers

you have to be able to ops at .850 before you’re any good, no matter how big you are.

by serbianking33 on Jul 5, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So is defense...

...and season to date Theriot is the worst qualified shortstop defensively by RZR or ZR.

by cwyers on Jul 5, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

were talking about Theriot hitting, and now lets bring in the defensivly stats? It’s almost like ok well people are making a good case that Theriot is hitting good, what else can I say bad about him ? I’m sure RZR or ZR are bad, but I have seen many people call those stats flawed. I will admit I never have been a big reader on defensive stats, so I couldn’t tell you if they were or not.

by cubsfan25 on Jul 5, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we're talking about

Theriot PLAYING.

As in he’s a starting shortstop on arguably the best team in MLB, and a lot of us cannot figure out why.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 5, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's good

ask him to hit behind a runner, or bunt and see what happens

by serbianking33 on Jul 5, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

Now you’re just going overboard. I watched the whole Sox game yesterday, not only did Uribe make two huge mental gaffes in the field (which ok, maybe Theriot would’ve done the same) but he looked absolutely LOST at the plate. And if Theriot continues to hit .157 all of July, then we can talk. I don’t get it, but EVERY pre-game thread now has to have its own Theriot bashing session even when the previous post has nothing to do w/ him. A lot of this seems unwarranted to me.

Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.

by Jayo525 on Jul 5, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He hasn't hit well for

power since April. But he’s still getting on base a ton, and I’m fine with that. Almost every hitter in our line-up can hit the ball out of the park besides Theriot. I’m fine with having a singles hitter who gets on base a good amount in our line-up. You putting down Theriot is getting about annoying as someone else comments about Soriano and Rich Harden IMO. Just let it go we know you don’t think he’s a very good player. That doesn’t change the fact he’s having a good year, even though you keep mentioning everything he’s not doing well.

by cubsfan25 on Jul 5, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, well, everything he's not doing well...

...is hitting the ball, fielding the ball or running the bases. All that’s left is pitching, and I bet hes not very good at that, either.

by cwyers on Jul 5, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean

hitting the well for power right? He’s hitting the ball you can’t say he’s not hitting. Plus Theriot has ran the bases MUCH better in the last month, his high CS rate is from April and early May when Lou tried to make him a 40-50 SB type hitter. Your bashing of Theriot getting really really silly, I never once seen someone call a guy a bad hitter when he his hitting over 306 with a 386 OBP, thats just insane. Umm yeah thats hitting, like it or not. Hitting for power isn’t just hitting you know that right?

by cubsfan25 on Jul 5, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how are you judging how he runs the bases?

if its sb success rate, then that’s not a very good way to judge the way he “runs the bases”

i hope you’re using something different.

by serbianking33 on Jul 5, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cwyers

is a very smart poster, and one of the better posters on this board IMO. But the one thing I really disagree with is his nonstop ways of putting Theriot down. It’s almost like MIBNIU has hijacked his screen name and is bringing up Theriot always and putting him down but in a much smarter way. We all know you don’t like the guy, but you don’t have to keep talking about how bad you think he is, especially when he’s not as bad as he’s trying to make him sound.

by cubsfan25 on Jul 5, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he's bashing or being over the top...

...he just wants someone better in that role. I don’t necessarily agree or disagree with him, but it’s a free board…

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 5, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

it’s because I don’t read this board everyday. But it seems like at least a few times a week I see him making some type of negative comments towards Theriot. I know it’s a free board, but saying negative things about a player over and over again gets a little old. Especially when it’s pretty much the same type of comments, and nothing has changed in the last month or so. Plus I think Cwyers is a smart poster who knows his stuff, so it kinda bothers me that he acts MDBNIU with this Theriot stuff.

by cubsfan25 on Jul 5, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is a smart poster

read his blog, it will make someone’s head spin.

but we cannot find a better starter. i dont disagree with finding a defensive minded shortstop to back him up when we deal cedeno for other pieces, i think that’s a great idea bc theriot doesnt field all that well.

by serbianking33 on Jul 5, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

getting a defensive specialist for the bench at SS is a good idea. In a big game or playoff game removing Theriot late in the game for defense isn’t a bad idea. But getting most of the playing time and Theriot hitting the way he has this season he’s a fine at SS. Adding a SS is towards the buttom of things this team needs IMO.

by cubsfan25 on Jul 5, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just wonder....

...if management is really even thinking about replacing Theriot in the late innings. I mean, Cedeno would be doing it NOW if they thought that way, wouldn’t he?

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 5, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't read his comments then...easy enough

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 5, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

well like I said I like reading most of his stuff, I will just have to close my eyes the next time I see him bring up Theriot. I don’t mean to pick on the guy, and like I said I love most of his post. It’s just really getting on my nerves, to continue to read negative comments about Theriot over and over again. Like for example bringing up Theriot July stats after 13 AB’s is just picking on the guy IMO.

by cubsfan25 on Jul 5, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm for resting Theriot

five days a week.

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by Josh77 on Jul 5, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

word

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 5, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 5, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So far, in July...

there’s been 4 games played.

by serbianking33 on Jul 5, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay then.

Theriot, May 1st through today: .299/.382/.327

Theriot, past two seasons: .289/.358/.377

Theriot, career: .286/.356/.373

There is a lot more evidence that Theriot is bad at hitting baseballs then there is evidence that he’s good at hitting baseballs.

by cwyers on Jul 5, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you want

a shortstop that’s about 6’2’’ 210, used to pitch in highschool that throws 96 mph from the infield, a 25-30 home run power guy with great bat speed and a .900 OPS. Oh, and he doesn’t ever boot a ball…EVER.

Well, who wouldn’t like that? But, with the team that we have, and with the limited ability to aquire pieces, we should be OK with Theriot at short. I’ve read what you guys have been saying for the past two weeks about how “he sucks.” But honestly, let’s look towards other parts of our club.

You keep mentioning Theriot’s physical limitations and then complaining that his SLG will never reach .400

by serbianking33 on Jul 5, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lets just

no longer look at batting average or OBP and just focus on OPS from now on? Of course OPS is important, but when is hitting 300 and getting OBP at a 380 rate a bad hitter? This is just insane, and not worth my time talking about anymore.

by cubsfan25 on Jul 5, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OPS includes OBP.

It is more complete than OBP when looking at a ballplayer. OPS+ or linear weights are more complete still.

by cwyers on Jul 5, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand that

but the only thing that makes Theriot a subpar hitter is the lack of power, the batting average and OPS are very strong. For a SS I’m fine with two of three of them.

by cubsfan25 on Jul 5, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ya know...

...my feeling is Theriot is gonna stay the SS for a few reasons:

-We are winning
-He’s scrappy, and no matter how you quantify it, scrappiness is encouraged by fans and coaches alike
—His OBP is still decent

And finally, what’s our other option? Cedeno?

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 5, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would say

386 is a little better then decent, and thats with him doing bad the last few days. He’s most likely to bring his numbers up again like he did in the last three months. On teams filled with power hitters, most teams like to have a good average hitting good OBP guy who has some speed on the roster. This is the kind of player White Sox fans call in to talk radio shows and say their line-up needs.

by cubsfan25 on Jul 5, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right

his obp is pretty good, but i think we’ll see him start to slip in the 8 spot. In the 2 spot, he will see fastballs, and that’s attributed to his high batting average, but he’s been VERY patient.

the one thing about white sox fans is that they live for scrappy, when that’s not always the best route. I see where cwyers is coming from, but we have no other choice. Our middle infielders are bad defensively, (i’ll keep cedeno out of that) but we have to do what we can with what we have. constantly bashing theriot and bringing up khalil greene and other shortstops (Who arent going to come here) is not the greatest fight to pick. especially when we need a starter and a few relievers.

by serbianking33 on Jul 5, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im fine

with Theriot at SS. Sure I wish he played better defense and hit for more power. But I also understand that you aren’t going to have a hitter who plays great defense or hits for really good power at every postion. If Theriot can be a asset to the team by hitting for average and getting OBP alot I’m happy especially if he’s hitting 8th.

by cubsfan25 on Jul 5, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's the link

for Fox’s coverage.

http://awfulannouncing.blogspot.com/2008/07/your-mlb-announcing-schedule-for.html

Thank God the game is on the Wisconsin Fox stations.

Let’s do it today!

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 5, 2008 12:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn

Sox Yanks in Utah. Bring on the rain

by BradB311 on Jul 5, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I HATE THE SOX AND THE YANKS!

No Cubbies here in Minneapolis, damn it!

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Jul 5, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's talking TV Coverage....

Nobody cares about your fantasy league team

by carmen_fanzone on Jul 5, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know,

I was saying not showing the Cubs in MN makes no sense.

by sue369 on Jul 5, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"If that game is rain-delayed or rained out, Fox will have to send the Cubs and Cardinals to the entire country (except for NYC and Boston)."

Why “except for NYC and Boston”? Assuming a rain-out, why wouldn’t those markets see the Cubs/Cards game as well?

I guess I shouldn’t be surprised at anything having to do with MLB, Fox, and blackout/coverage restrictions, but it just seems unusually asinine that the NYC and Boston folks would see alternate Fox programming (3 hours of Prison Break?) instead of another game.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 5, 2008 12:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Love the quote

you can’t have enough from “Major League.”

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jul 5, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They would get the Cubs/Cards...

.... during a rain delay.

But after a rain delay, the home markets would go back to the Sox/Yanks game. The rest of the country - to keep the commercial rotation in sync, if for no other reason - would probably stay with the Cubs/Cardinals, depending on how long the delay is.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 5, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just Called DirecTV

and asked “Why is my receiver not allowing me to get Fox Sports Espanol when I bought both the Sports Pack AND Extra Innings?”. The poor rep had to explain that FSE is being blacked out by MLB today.

BURN IN HELL, BUD SELIG!!!!!

Eat More Katsui

by CaliCub on Jul 5, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In CA?

WTF???

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 5, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they must have realized

that someone might be able to watch something other than sox/yanks

by BradB311 on Jul 5, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's probably wrong.

I think you have to have the Spanish language package to get Fox Sports en Español. I don’t think it’s part of the sports package.

The game is supposed to be shown this afternoon, acccording to their website. Do you currently receive that channel?

by Fraggin Judge on Jul 5, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Verdad

Pero en Seattle no tango. Qué Lastima

Baseball is too much of a sport to be a business and too much of a business to be a sport.
William Wrigley Jr

by bubbamike the one and only on Jul 5, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lohse has only had two season over .500...and I don't know what the hell he's doing this year that's so special...

...let’s get to him early.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 5, 2008 12:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

keeping the ball in the park...

...and not walking people. much easier to pitch around hits then walks and hits.

by serbianking33 on Jul 5, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The magic of Dave Duncan at work again

He’s turned so many nags into thoroughbreds that it’s not funny. Lohse appears to be his latest prize pupil. Seriously if you are a sucky major league pitcher with a quality arm wouldn’t you beg, borrow and plead to get traded to St. Louis and let Duncan be your pitching coach.

Pitching is KING. We don't add a frontline starting pitcher and a quality bullpen arm then this season will have yet another sad conclusion.

by MDBNIU on Jul 5, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duncan is something to be marveled at, I don't know how he does it...

...year in and year out, he gets career-years from his starters…

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 5, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We've got a guy in Mesa who is "over the" Hill

what can we get in return?

We know Rothschild can do $*it with him. Which has been my point for 3 years when it comes to our worthless pitching coach. :-(

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 5, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm getting Boston-NYY on Fox

Can I see this on MLB.tv?

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 5, 2008 12:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This shit is getting so fucking old.

I’ve never bought a product that I’ve haven’t been able to use (on certain days) until the MLB came into play. MLB is so damn stupid.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 5, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, im not a big soccer fan but I have a friend who bought the MLS equivilant to MLb.tv.

They had such a broad definition of “National Games” that I think he would of been able to see 15% of the games or something like that.
Just to show that MLB is stupid and unfair, but that one other league is equally dumb.

Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs

by nji232 on Jul 5, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

An umbrella?

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 5, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I stand corrected

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 5, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 5, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hee hee hee

but the spirit of Nittany’s post is spot-on.

Eat More Katsui

by CaliCub on Jul 5, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit.

Please let it rain!!!! (In New York that is)

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by Unique on Jul 5, 2008 1:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ryan Theriot

Theriot owns the highest batting average on the team and is second among the regulars in OBP. Yet some in the peanut gallery want to howl and scream that he should be benched in favor of Ronny Cedeno and his three brain cells. Lovely stuff.

Pitching is KING. We don't add a frontline starting pitcher and a quality bullpen arm then this season will have yet another sad conclusion.

by MDBNIU on Jul 5, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I

would prefer it. Ronny Cedeno has made great strides. He still makes mistakes, but I think he’s got much greater potential.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 5, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a headcase

that’s very streaky. he’s good defensively.

great strides? we’ll he cant screw up on the bases when he’s not on base. .211/.268/.237 in the past month.

by serbianking33 on Jul 5, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he barely

gets to play.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 5, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen

Ronny Cedeno generally sucks. He had a nice 6 week stretch during part-time duty that resulted in members of the peanut gallery going nutty and proclimating that the Cubs had Hanley Ramirez .v2 right under their nose. It’s comical really.

Pitching is KING. We don't add a frontline starting pitcher and a quality bullpen arm then this season will have yet another sad conclusion.

by MDBNIU on Jul 5, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what he had

was a chance to actually play for a sustained amount of time, and showed that he could produce.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 5, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Theriot is batting. Therefore. he's the regular SS.

Defensively and running the bases, he’s not making any mistakes that Ronny wouldn’t make. So there’s no downside to playing Theriot.

by Fraggin Judge on Jul 5, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about Mr (or Mrs) Outside Hire?

Realistically we aren’t gonna make a change at SS anytime soon, unless Theriot really struggles for a prolonged period. I think he is just scrappy enough where we can reevaluate SS after the season is over.

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by nji232 on Jul 5, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou likes Theriot, and that is good enough for me

Theriot is an overachiever that brings a spark to this team. He is well liked and plays his tail off. If Sweet Lou is fine with him as everyday shortstop then it is good enough for me. Because my eyes support Lou’s faith. Besides, last time I checked I’m pretty sure the Cubs didn’t have Derek Jeter or Jimmy Rollins lying around in waste.

Pitching is KING. We don't add a frontline starting pitcher and a quality bullpen arm then this season will have yet another sad conclusion.

by MDBNIU on Jul 5, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou likes Soriano.

Lou likes Woody.

Interesting.

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 5, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can have Jeter

the Yankees best shortstop is playing third and I’d take him in a heartbeat.

Baseball is too much of a sport to be a business and too much of a business to be a sport.
William Wrigley Jr

by bubbamike the one and only on Jul 5, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt

It’s more fair to compare Theriot to what our current other options are, rather than what the rest of the NL shortstops are doing. Unless we are planning to trade for a shortstop, we have what we have. Name one team that has the best defense in their league at every position.

"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse

by Goodie1969 on Jul 5, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right. And there are other priorities to trade for.

I’m happy with one of the batting leaders in the league playing SS for us.

by Fraggin Judge on Jul 5, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what do you care about

stats?

"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08

by drewishdrewid on Jul 5, 2008 1:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Random posting plea...

if you use links in your post, can you please try to remember to check the box that says “Open in New Window?” I know it’s an extra step and I wish this were the default so you wouldn’t have to worry about it.

My reasoning: If the link opens up in the same window, when you return back to BCB, you lose your place w.r.t. to all the new (unread) comments). Either they all become read, so you have to scroll through the entire thread to try and find what you’ve missed, or it reverts back to an earlier iteration, so you have to refresh, at which point everything becomes read and you still have to go back through the entire thread.

At least that’s been my experience – is that true for others?

I know I can (and should) right-click on the link and thus control its destiny, but I don’t always remember to do that.

Also, are there reasons why opening in the same window is a good thing?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 5, 2008 1:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks for the tip

I hadn’t noticed a check box and will try to remember it next time I link. I agree, navigating back to BCB and then trying to relocate posting position is a pain in the butt.

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 5, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

this has been bugging me as well, to the point where i just hover my mouse and see if it says ”...in a new window” at the end just to be sure.

Alan Trammell: Assistant (to the) Manager

by northsider on Jul 5, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+2

Just to be sure, I’ll always right click and click Open in New Tab.

Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.

by Jayo525 on Jul 5, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always middle click and go to a new tab

anyway. Thats why sometimes I forget to hit the new window box, b/c I forget that nont everyone does that.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 5, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably the only "good" reason

for having a new link NOT open a new window is because some people have “pop-ups disabled” in their browsers. However, such people (I have been one in the past) get pretty used to right-clicking, which is the work-around.

Anyway, I agree that it would be handy to have “new window” be the default setting, for the same reasons you cite.

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 5, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have asked for this myself.

ALL the links I put in posts and comments are “open in new window”. There are some at SBN who don’t like this and that’s why it’s not given at an option. I’m going to keep pushing for this.

In the meantime you can always right-click on a link and either open in a new tab (if you have a tabbed browser) or in a new window using the context menu.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 5, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al, did you notice the last two days..

on the homepage it says Cardinals at St. Louis?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 5, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hadn't noticed that.

I’ll send that to the bugreport address.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 5, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just looked at this again.

It says “vs. Cardinals at St. Louis”. That’s correct. Where are you seeing the mistake?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 5, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My bad...perhaps I didn't read the first line...

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Jul 5, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, it's inconvenient sometimes when you have a lot of other programs going on.

I think they should have the option already clicked, instead of the annoyance of having to click the option every time you post a link.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 5, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the only reason to NOT open in a new window would be game threads, and jumping from one to another

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 5, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea!

Having a judge on your side when you make a plea is always a good thing… ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 5, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you.

That bugs the hell out of me when I lose track of where I was.

by sue369 on Jul 5, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When pointing to

a new overflow then I prefer to open in the same window. Otherwise a different window is good.

Baseball is too much of a sport to be a business and too much of a business to be a sport.
William Wrigley Jr

by bubbamike the one and only on Jul 5, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want RAIN ( but no thunderstorms)

I would LOVE to watch the game here in NYC. It is gloomy outside and already
rained for an hour around noon. Thunderstorms are bad though as they may well
knock out my dish so I can’t see it ( I could go to the local Red Sox bar as they will
have to show it) so C’mon rain.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 5, 2008 1:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My theory?

Was typing for a long time before PCs and got used to having to hit a “return” key after 10 words or so, or else risk running into the margin. Muscle memory isn’t just for Rich Hill.

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 5, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's it

I am ancient and never really got used to this. It was worse from my home computer which
is now dead. Will try to work on it but old habits die hard

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 5, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I met you and you are not ancient

And I’m not ancient (I keep telling myself) for figuring out what puzzled young northsider….

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 5, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How old are you?

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 5, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Up until last year, there was still an MLB player or two my age. Not this year, I don’t think. So by MLB player standards, I guess that does make me ancient!

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 5, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't seem that old

I’m guessing you’re 10-15 years younger than my dad.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 5, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, NittanyCub

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 5, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

But I graduated the same year as a younger retiree, Roger Clemens….only I don’t pitch.

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 5, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A woman never admits her age

but for a few years I would admit to being older than Greg Maddux
but younger than BOTH Francos ( Julio & John not the SNL “Franco”)
Alas I have now lost both Francos.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 5, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you forgot Generalissimo Franco

and you are most certainly younger than him.

Last report: Still dead.

We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez

by Emelie on Jul 5, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I applied the same standard to myself...

I always took heart in the fact the Julio Franco was still swinging the bat in the big leagues, but with his retirement, alas – I am older than all the active major leaguers…

Another game I played when asked how old I am is to respond with a player’s name who wore the jersey of my age, usually a Cleveland Brown. Seemed like fun when the answer was Greg Pruitt; not so much fun when it was Mike Pruitt… ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jul 5, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just doubled checked

and Jamie Moyer is two months younger than me.

:-(

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 6, 2008 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

She isn't old

but she deals with old movies all the time. She is Kino to set the Criterion of film entertainment.

Baseball is too much of a sport to be a business and too much of a business to be a sport.
William Wrigley Jr

by bubbamike the one and only on Jul 5, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Al said that even then

the Cubs/Cards will be blacked out in NY and BOS. I don’t get why, but he’s the TV dude.

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 5, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's the explanation again.

The home markets of the teams (NYC and Boston) get the game no matter what. So say there’s a rain delay there. In that case the entire country gets Cubs/Cardinals. But once the rain delay ends the home markets go back to the game involving their teams. The rest of the country probably would stick with Cubs/Cardinals at that point.

A total rainout in NYC would solve this problem today.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 5, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got it

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 5, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The World Ain't Flat Anymore

This whole notion of “territorial rights” went out with the geocentric theory of the universe. With the interconnectivity of society as brought on by high-speed communication and transportation, regional boundaries and “team markets” are nothing but fallacies.

ALL teams can claim ANY territory to be their sphere of interest, and as such blackout rules should be summarily banished to the scrap heap.

Eat More Katsui

by CaliCub on Jul 5, 2008 1:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

EXTREMELY loud, sustained applause.

The territorial rights thing dates back to the 1970’s, long before satellite and cable TV became universal, and even before Al Gore invented the Internets (JOKE!).

It needs to go. Yesterday.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 5, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tell that to people like Peter Angelos ....

.... who will fight to the Supreme Court their right to product territorial right. Case in point, the only reason the Nationals are playing in the nation’s capitol these days is because Bud the Dud Selig and the other owners sent a crapload of money Angelos’ way to keep him from taking them to court.

Diehard: All right, Hendry, let's see how you improve the ballclub mid-season.
Hendry: What coordinates, sir?
Diehard: [annoyed] Coordinates?
Hendry: Yes, sir, they determine where the the ballclub is...
Diehard: Soldier, the Cubs have spent a lot of money teaching you to fire off a trade. Now set and fire.

by MDBNIU on Jul 5, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Angelos Would Be Better Served

to improve the on-field product instead of spouting legalese jibberish and making idle threats. Get with the times, Pete, and broaden your team’s appeal by, oh I don’t know, BUTTING OUT AND LETTING BASEBALL PEOPLE RUN THE ORIOLES!

Eat More Katsui

by CaliCub on Jul 5, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Word.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Jul 5, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah! The old philosophical conundrum.

The way things should be and the way they currently are.

Unfortunately, blackouts seem to make sense only to the stations that want to keep your eyes glued to their signal. As long as they are willing to pay for that exclusivity there will always be a Bud Selig willing to grant it to them and pocket the extra fee. The viewers? They’ll have their eye sockets glued to the TV set, they seem to think. Pathetic.

by Fraggin Judge on Jul 5, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm checking out Accuweather

they’re saying it’s a 53% chance of rain in New York for the next three hours. I’m not sure if it’d be enough though—only 5 inches of it.

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 5, 2008 2:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

0.05 " is what I meant

"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk

by NittanyCub on Jul 5, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're pulling up the tarp

in NYC. That sucks. I hate the Yanks, the Red Sox, MLB and most of all I hate Fox.
Scum of the earth!

Baseball is too much of a sport to be a business and too much of a business to be a sport.
William Wrigley Jr

by bubbamike the one and only on Jul 5, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair

To be fair it was the same thing when NBC had the package in the 80s.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 5, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Irrelevant.

The contract terms are far different, and the media landscape is far different.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 5, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weather in NYC

I’m about 2 miles from Yankee Stadium. It’s cloudy but not raining at the moment. I’ll update if that changes.

by John Q Freejazz on Jul 5, 2008 2:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Theriot or an alternative

How much of a batting average downgrade are people willing to accept to upgrade defensively at SS?

There’s people who don’t put value on the act of getting on first base so batting around 300 with a 390 OBA sucks to them but you need people on base. Lee had 106 RBIS in 2005 because nobody was on base ahead of him,.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 5, 2008 2:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Right.

Theriot was on base for Soriano to drive him in. That gave us a few victories.

by Fraggin Judge on Jul 5, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

He was on base early this season for Lee, Ramirez and Fukudome to drive him in,

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 5, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TV

I don’t know why FOX doesn’t use FX on days like this. One game on Fox the second game on FX.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 5, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That would make too much sense.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 5, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because Fox paid to grant their affiliates exclusivity...

Regardless of whether the viewers are screwed or not. Pathetic.

by Fraggin Judge on Jul 5, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

When you have Bud Selig and Fox as the major players in something it’s a wonder they can manage to get games on TV period.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 5, 2008 2:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Listening to Ron's pregame with Lou

They just called Fontenot “little babe ruth”.

said that Soriano only bats lead off once, once the lineup turns over, its nice to have that “pop” there.

Said they need a good game out of Lilly and that they are pleased w/ how Howry is starting to preform.

Talked about how good the pen will be once Marmol gets it back.

Nothing earthshattering, just passing it along.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 5, 2008 2:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I call Fontenot "Little Todd Walker"

but that’s just me.

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 5, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they laughed so hard i had to include it

ron cracked himself up with it.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 5, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou also finally admitted

that he’d rather have Sori get an extra AB than Riot.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 5, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well who wouldn't?

really? “theriot’s a fine player, but you need thump” or something very similar from Lou.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 5, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is all a conspiracy

Fox, Selig and Todd Stroger/Rod Blagoevich/Rich Daley are in a conspiracy to give us one reason to be happy to live in Chicago or Cook County while they tax us to pieces.

For those that don’t live here Cook Countians now pay the highest sales tax in the US. On top of that we have property taxes at one of the highest rates and we pay state income tax. Also gas, cigarettes and liquor tax rates are top tier.

There’s a reason why everyone who lives anywhere near the Cook county border drives a few miles to save tons of money.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 5, 2008 2:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I look for Edmonds to

have a better game today. Need a great game from Lilly too. Maybe Aramis will hav the hot hand today.

by sue369 on Jul 5, 2008 2:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess the high socks last night

didn’t jinx the slump for him.

''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella

by JohnM on Jul 5, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm hoping rami

busts out tonight.

i dont think edmonds is going to light the world on fire this series, they know him too well.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 5, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Am I remembering right?

I posted above that it was the same under CBS and NBC control on Saturday. Am I completely correct totally wrong or somewhere in between.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 5, 2008 2:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm.....

I received good news and bad news…

Bad news: Our Fox station is showing Sox-Yanks (and we’re an NL city!)
Good news: Our Fox Spanish station is showing Cubs-Cards
Good news: Yo hablo espanol.
Bad news: I don’t get the Fox Spanish station in my building.

Looks like Gameday Audio for me… (at least they don’t black that out)

I’ll need some descriptions from those of you who can see the game.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Jul 5, 2008 2:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thats one thing thats handy about the game threads

but remember those of us on gameday audio end up a few minutes behind. So if you dont want to kow the future… :-p

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jul 5, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For your pleasure and convenience...

the first pitch thread is now up. (does NOT open in new window!)

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 5, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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