Sweet! -- Cubs 2, Cardinals 1
by Al
on Jul 5, 2008 8:00 AM CDT
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It was really considerate of the city of St. Louis to shoot off fireworks for the Cubs' 2-1 win over the Cardinals, wasn't it?
Just as Kerry Wood was finishing off the victory, the grand finale of the downtown St. Louis 4th of July fireworks show splashed across the sky -- you could hear the "booms" loudly on TV, so I can only imagine how loud they must have been at Busch Stadium. For more firsthand information from St. Louis, see 08Cubs' FanPost, containing a short recap and photos from an excellent lower box seat (how'd you score that one, anyway?).
Everything went right last night... yes, everything. Carlos Zambrano threw six solid innings, going 87 pitches (Lou had said he'd be limited to 85-90, and despite batting in the top of the 7th and having a rather animated discussion with Lou in the dugout, Z was lifted to start the 7th) and allowing two walks and four singles, two of which were infield dribblers. Z was apparently "livid" (a quote from an article whose online link I cannot find right now) when they told him he was going on the DL, because he felt he didn't need the two weeks off. The team treaded water (losing one game off its division lead) during that time, but clearly, Z is fine, and he has pitched some of his best games in St. Louis. Last night was no exception, and his ninth win of the season keeps him in the running for an All-Star spot. He seemed focused and not too over-the-top; he threw strikes and wasn't trying to make up for the two weeks off all in one night.
Bob Howry, Neal Cotts and Kerry Wood all did their jobs last night -- I was especially pleased with Howry, even though he gave up the solo HR to Albert Pujols, because he got five outs on sixteen pitches. If Howry can throw this way every time out, there will be less pressure on Carlos Marmol. Cotts did the job he was asked to do -- retire one lefthanded hitter, Rick Ankiel.
One of the reasons I really enjoy watching Wood pitch is that he works quickly. He'll get the ball back and be ready to throw right away, and that keeps fielders ready, keeps the pace of the game at HIS pace, and I think is one of the many reasons he's been so successful. The WGN speed meter had him at 96-97 MPH. Second in the NL in saves, Wood should also be an All-Star selection. We'll find out on Sunday. Incidentally, and maybe this sounds like a homer comment, but Troy Glaus' histrionics when he was called out on strikes by plate umpire Ted Barrett seemed a little over the top and I'm surprised he wasn't ejected. The pitches were close, but on TV at least, appeared to be strikes.
The Cub offense wasn't great yesterday, but the two solo HR by Kosuke Fukudome (who had a terrific at-bat before slicing the ball into the RF seats) and Geovany Soto (who had three hits and nearly hit two HR off Braden Looper) were enough. Say, do you do this? If the Cubs lose, I switch the TV off right after the last out. When they win, I'll leave it on for a while to savor it.
Finally, a tip o' the BCB cap to Cardinals fans, who gave Jim Edmonds a long, warm standing ovation on his first at-bat last night. This is, I think, what distinguishes the Cub/Cardinal rivalry from, say, the Yankee/Red Sox rivalry. For me, at least, it is a healthy respect for the other team and for the long rivalry between the two teams -- and there really is nothing better than a pennant race between the Cubs and Cardinals (especially when the Cubs come out on top). Did Red Sox fans welcome Johnny Damon back in Yankee pinstripes? I doubt it. Those people seem to really hate each other. I'd like to think Cubs and Cardinals fans are better than that.
That said, nice win. Go get 'em again today.
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uh where is everyrone
Its been almost 10 minutes and no one has jumped on to yell FIRST or anything.
by ballstitch on Jul 5, 2008 8:17 AM CDT 0 recs
still asleep maybe
I loved how you could hear the Cubs fan last night!
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on
Jul 5, 2008 10:39 AM CDT
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The Cardinal Fans Were Classy
to recognize Jimmy the way they did, and I have no problem with him doffing his helmet as a show of appreciation. That said, check the game threads on Viva El Birdos to see the dark underbelly of said fans. The Glaus at-bat did not go unnoticed, shall we say? Heh heh.
I have utter and complete confidence in Wood after watching him pitch under what can only be described as unusual circumstances last night. I thought he would be well-suited to the closer’s role, but I did not envision the dominance he has shown.
A great start to the series. Now let’s win one of these things on the road for once, shall we boys?
"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse
by Goodie1969 on Jul 5, 2008 8:21 AM CDT 0 recs
+1
I hated Jim Edmonds as much as any player in baseball but a good friend, a Cardinal fan, told me you’ll love him if he starts hitting. Well, not exactly love, but I’m warming to him. It was extremely nice what happened to Edmonds last night, I would guess even he was surprised. Now that is over, I expect big things today!
As far as the strikeout on Glaus. I think home plate umpire Barrett did one better than throw him out. He called him out on that low outside corner after Glaus showed him up. Much classier move by an umpire than to take off his mask, stare him down and invite a showdown. Just send the message that if you show me up I’ll give the benefit of the doubt to the pitcher.
Awesome game, let’s get today’s win too!
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on
Jul 5, 2008 8:55 AM CDT
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I kinda got that feeling too
After Woody got that first call on the corner (when Glaus began heading to first) I noticed some choice words coming from Mr. Glaus. As Bob Costas used to say, “A Lip-Reader’s Delight!” Woody showed some real stones going back there, and I agree totally that Barrett sent a message to Glaus there. Seems like LaRussa got the message too, because he didn’t even argue.
"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse
by Goodie1969 on
Jul 5, 2008 9:16 AM CDT
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Good to Cubs back in form
We operated as a tight, efficient team last night. Dome’s homer in the first set the tone and gave Z room to relax a bit. Soto sure has the stuff and I hope that he equals or betters Billy Williams rookie year. And Kerry’s eagle eyes as he’s preparing his pitch? Fearsome!
It’s going to be a great series and I can’t wait to join the fun for (finally!) this afternoon’s game.
Go Cubs!
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
by Emelie on Jul 5, 2008 8:28 AM CDT 0 recs
I turn the channel or turn the tv off within seconds of a loss
and leave it on for postgame comments when they win too. It is also nice to watch sportscenter or listen to the radio scores when they win. I don’t really let losses get me down, I just pay less attention. Great game last night, go get em today!
by LT on Jul 5, 2008 8:37 AM CDT 0 recs
Savoring the victory
Not only do I leave the TV on, but I make sure to get up early to watch the highlights on Sportscenter the next morning. When the Cubs lose, I tend to avoid ESPN, sports websites, etc.
by KWFaris on Jul 5, 2008 8:38 AM CDT 0 recs
How Did I Get the Seat?
That’s what the Cardinals fan next to me wanted to know! (Online right at the onsale, actually.)
Al, you’re right about the different nature of this rivalry. But I can never remember taking so much ribbing in a road city without even having a jersey or over-the-top Cubs gear on as I did yesterday, even in St. Louis. By sheer reflex, I stood up when Glaus struck out and motioned him energetically toward the dugout steps. A few seconds later, I wondered whether that might have led to a brawl at a Yankees-Red Sox game.
Anyway, here’s another photo – of D Lee making a catch closeby on Glaus’s foulout. I’ll post a couple more in my fanpost as well.
Let’s go Ted Lilly!
by 08Cubs on Jul 5, 2008 8:40 AM CDT 0 recs
thanks for the pix
you’ve got a good eye and really captured the game well.
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
by Emelie on
Jul 5, 2008 8:44 AM CDT
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great pics.
can’t wait until you post more of them!!
"We have a pretty strong belief that we are going to win those types of games. It's our confidence. "--Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on
Jul 5, 2008 10:47 AM CDT
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Yes, you do that to a home team player in Boston or NY
And fans would immediately tell you to sit down and shut up.
Great pictures, BTW.
by Fraggin Judge on
Jul 5, 2008 11:15 AM CDT
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Something about the Cardinals brings out the best
in the Cubs. Even in the musty-Dusty days, we seem to play alert and good ball against these RedBirds (think ‘06).
I do think a strong series this weekend might just do the trick to kick-start our “road-confidence,” but let’s just start with a good game by Lilly tonight.
GO CUBS!!
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on Jul 5, 2008 8:52 AM CDT 0 recs
Great Game last night.....
Z was awsome. My wife loved the shots of Z, Lou and Larry arguing about him coming out of the game…My worst worry was that I would run out of pause time on the DVR because the fireworks show we viewed from the ‘upper deck’ of our yard was late…..but it was, as always, spectacular!! Kerry looks so intense, yet relaxed when the game is on the line….
Today, I get cartoon Cubs, as our Fox station is showing Yanks – RedSox….grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I hope everyone had a great 4th!!
by crazymountain on Jul 5, 2008 8:53 AM CDT 0 recs
Glaus shouldn't have been surprised....
The way he reacted to that 2nd strike was showing up the umpire. The next pitch was at exactly the same place. Did he really expect the umpire to call THAT one a ball after his theatrics? Really surprising from a veteran major leaguer, but then again, I know nothing about Troy Glaus.
Nice outing by the pen. Howry pitched great and at least had Pujols up in the perfect situation-—nobody on. Great strikeout by Cotts. I have to believe he’s gotta come through the 2nd half if Marmol continues to struggle. Wood was lights out. That hit by Molina was a fluke—-both of his hits were.
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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 5, 2008 8:54 AM CDT 0 recs
From a Cards fan...
I think the biggest problem for the Cards fans was how the ump had a beef to pick with Glaus. If an umpire feels that he has to prove himself by making another bad call (strike three) to teach Glaus a lesson, that is just ridiculous. Toss Glaus if you don’t like what he did, but a strike is a strike, and should never change.
by NorseKaiser on
Jul 5, 2008 1:13 PM CDT
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A reminder about Damon
When he returned to Fenway Red-Sox fans dropped dollar bills onto him in the outfield. I also think they chanted “sell-out”. Could be wrong about the chant though…
by ak123 on Jul 5, 2008 9:03 AM CDT 0 recs
Another reminder...
Damon was a free agent and signed with the Yankees. Edmonds was traded to another team and we picked him up off the scrap heap.
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by carmen_fanzone on
Jul 5, 2008 9:42 AM CDT
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good point
Boston also had an offer on the table to Damon. I think the Difference was like 3 mil. I’d call him a sell out too if I was a BoSox fan. Imagine Ramirez signing a free agent deal with the Cards when we had a comperable offer on the table.
by BradB311 on
Jul 5, 2008 10:01 AM CDT
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The dollar bills
were in Texas when A-Rod made his return as a Yankee. Damon received a loud standing ovation in his first at bat at Fenway as a Yankee, and has been loudly booed ever since.
For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint.
by Less is Walrond on
Jul 5, 2008 10:06 AM CDT
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Sign At Fenway
When Damon first returned as a Yankee:
“Looks Like Jesus, Acts Like Judas, Throws Like Mary”.
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by CaliCub on
Jul 5, 2008 10:31 AM CDT
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Damon
I think Damon left Boston because the Red Sox offered him a three-year while the Yankees offered hin four-years at a comparable salary.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
by sweetswinger on
Jul 5, 2008 10:57 AM CDT
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No, you're right. They still call him "Johnny Demon."
The difference is not only the hate between those two teams. As carmen_fanzone pointed out, Edmonds was traded while Damon left as a free agent.
by Fraggin Judge on
Jul 5, 2008 11:17 AM CDT
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True enough.
Still, Damon was a key part of a Red Sox championship team. You’d think they would have cut him a little slack for that, as they did with Derek Lowe.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jul 5, 2008 11:33 AM CDT
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True enough.
Still, Damon was a key part of a Red Sox championship team. You’d think they would have cut him a little slack for that, as they did with Derek Lowe.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jul 5, 2008 11:34 AM CDT
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With a Cubs win and Brewers win,
the Cards will find themselves in a virtual tie after today. I know the Cards won’t go away easily but this could signal the start of a new chase with the Brewers hot on our heels and the Cardinals chasing them. Somehow I would rather have the Brewers start losing because they really bug me with their lineup. I guess we just have to take care of our business and not worry about the rest.
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on Jul 5, 2008 9:24 AM CDT 0 recs
Let's focus on the Cardinals this weekend... and take of that first.
I was dreaming of a sweep last night… that would be HUGE.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on
Jul 5, 2008 9:30 AM CDT
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Agreed. We can't control what the Suds do.
Let’s just get the Lilly game in the win column and really put the pressure on these RedBirds.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on
Jul 5, 2008 11:12 AM CDT
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Just take care of business and let the rest fall where it falls. If the cubs start worrying about the brewers, wild card, etc, that’s when you start losing. Just focus on today(tonight for me), win and then worry about the rest later. Nice to see the bullpen was able to make 2 runs hold up. Don’t like howry giving up a run in such a close game, but at least the damage was one run.
by nmcubsfan on Jul 5, 2008 9:31 AM CDT 0 recs
If the Cubs lose, I switch the TV off right after the last out. When they win, I’ll leave it on for a while to savor it.
Ditto. I don’t even watch Baseball Tonight or listen to Cubscast on days when the Cubs lose.
Waste no tears on me. I didn't come along too early. I was right on time. - Buck O'Neil
by gewurztraminer on Jul 5, 2008 9:35 AM CDT 0 recs
I also turn the TV off immediately when the Cubs lose, sometimes before the end of the game I’ve had enough. But when they when I watch everything. I get so disappointed when the games aren’t on WGN and they don’t show the fans singing. Really love that 10th inning.
by mlern on Jul 5, 2008 9:40 AM CDT 0 recs
check out ...
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/ reacp. He says that the reason that the Cards lost was because of an inconsistent strike zone. Do any of you agree?
Great win last night… let’s do it again today!
The 100th time has GOT to be a charm...
by cubswgnrocks on Jul 5, 2008 9:42 AM CDT 0 recs
I read some of that earlier
What a long post to say they were robbed by the ump. Sounds like sour grapes to me.
by LT on
Jul 5, 2008 9:43 AM CDT
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That poster...
badly needs an editor.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
by DaBard on
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No
I didn’t watch the whole game but to say it was the “worst umpire performance ever” (paraphrased) based on two ABs with a questionable strike zone is silly. I wasn’t paying attention to the balls called on 1-2 and 2-2 to Soto so I can’t comment on those, but to be honest, the two pitches to Glaus were definitely balls. They didn’t appear to be strikes and weren’t strikes so I dunno what Al is talking about there. Soto set up on the outside corner and reached out to catch the pitch. Glaus had a legitimate beef (although at least the 2nd pitch was consistent so he shouldn’t have been surprised). But that surely didn’t cost them the game.
by grifdog on
Jul 5, 2008 9:50 AM CDT
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Same thing about leaving the TV on after wins
and doing something, anything, else after a loss. I’m even less inclined to watch ANY replays, save catching a Cardinal or Brewer score.
I’d be interested to see the ratings drop for the 10th Inning Show after a loss as opposed to a win.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on Jul 5, 2008 10:14 AM CDT 0 recs
Cardinal fan here
I am not one to say the ump EVER cost a team a game. I don’t even care that Glaus struck out. There is no way to know if he would have scored or not. The only problem I have is with the Soto at bat. If those pitches were strikes to Glaus then the definitely were to Soto. And the one thing I do know is that did make a difference. If Glaus is out on strikes the Soto is as well. NO HOMERUN = TIE GAME.
The good news is there is a lot of baseball left to go, most important, todays game.
Best of luck to you guys at the BCB, but I think our redbirds are going to even this series up (that way I don’t have to see any cubs fans carrying brooms when I go to the game on Sunday).
by hoofhearted-pujols on Jul 5, 2008 10:16 AM CDT 0 recs
I think you just said
that the ump cost you the game, no matter what you said in your first sentence.
But it’s a ridiculous argument anyway.
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by Josh77 on
Jul 5, 2008 10:22 AM CDT
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I said the ump made a bad call, that's it
One run wasn’t going to win that game, so we still needed to find another way. Last time I check 1-1 can’t win a game. We still can’t know the outcome. Knowing our bullpen the cubs still would have a an excellent chance to win. Not trying to piss anybody off, but if it was the other way around I bet this blog would have some complaints about the umpire.
by hoofhearted-pujols on
Jul 5, 2008 10:28 AM CDT
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Yes, we probably would be upset.
But I’d be more upset the team didn’t do something with the other 26 outs at their disposal.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on
Jul 5, 2008 10:30 AM CDT
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agree
We have to find another way to win. I tip my hat to the cubs for the win. Soto got a chance and took full advantage of it. That is how you win close games. If we were going to win we had to take advantage of the cubs one mistake. We got a break when Theriot missed the ball on the botched hit and run. with one out and our #2 and #3 hitter up we HAVE to find a way to score him to beat good teams/good pitching.
by hoofhearted-pujols on
Jul 5, 2008 10:40 AM CDT
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Leaving runners in scoring position on the bags always is a killer.
Especially in a one-run game. Trust me, we’ve had our share this year.
I think one of the standout moments was Z going after Pujols with a man on second, first open, and two outs. That was an incredibly gutsy call that paid off.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on
Jul 5, 2008 10:49 AM CDT
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yeah
That is a big decision. Funny thing is, watching Z pitch against us the past few years I have a feeling Lou could have told him to walk him and Z pitch to him anyway. That is the sign of a winner. He wants to show his best stuff in the most important situations. I just wish our winner (Pujols) would have came out on top.
by hoofhearted-pujols on
Jul 5, 2008 10:56 AM CDT
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Cards Role Players
It’s amazing how you guys find these role players from Skip Schumacher to Joe McEwing year after year. Who’s heard of these guys? Why don’t they continue to do as well when they move onto another club? Does LaRussa have a degree in the dark arts or what?
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by CaliCub on
Jul 5, 2008 10:59 AM CDT
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Darth LaRu.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on
Jul 5, 2008 11:02 AM CDT
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HAHAHA
aided by the Grand Moff Duncan.
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by CaliCub on
Jul 5, 2008 11:03 AM CDT
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It is a good job by LaRussa
But you have to admit, nobody thought Soto would be anything close to what he is. Talk about a career minor leaguer who figured it out last year and now has erupted at the big league leve.
by hoofhearted-pujols on
Jul 5, 2008 11:03 AM CDT
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He came in on fire late last year
and has just continued. He definitely deserves the All Star bid and may nab ROTY.
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on
Jul 5, 2008 11:07 AM CDT
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Not so surprising about Soto...
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by carmen_fanzone on
Jul 5, 2008 11:17 AM CDT
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Player of the year at AAA in his league.
And a huge September in the majors, earning playing time.
by Fraggin Judge on
Jul 5, 2008 11:20 AM CDT
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And, with Soto
his catching and handling of the staff here has been nothing short of remarkable. His hitting is a great bonus.
by crazymountain on
Jul 5, 2008 11:21 AM CDT
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No Kidding....
And the cast offs that Duncan turns into great pitchers…...I think Duncan should go to the HOF. What he does (and has done for about 25 years) with pitchers is the stuff of legend. I wish we had him.
by crazymountain on
Jul 5, 2008 11:19 AM CDT
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No kidding.
If Lou ordered Carlos to unintentionally intentionally walk him, Z would flirt as much as possible with the corners. It’s funny, because no matter how much Pujols scares me anytime he steps in the box, I feel so confident with Zambrano in there.
Here’s hoping a ton of brooms greet you on Sunday. ;)
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on
Jul 5, 2008 11:01 AM CDT
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OUCH
Nothing would be worse then seeing a bunch of blue shirts with brooms on Sunday. Of course if we win on Sunday there would be a lot of broke broomsticks laying around the stadium. But, I would feel alot better winning 2 of 3. I wish we were seeing Marquis instead of Lilly!!
by hoofhearted-pujols on
Jul 5, 2008 11:19 AM CDT
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That makes one of us.
:D
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on
Jul 5, 2008 11:20 AM CDT
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I wish we were seeing Marquis also.....
pitching in this series…..AS A CARDINAL!!!!!
by crazymountain on
Jul 5, 2008 11:23 AM CDT
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+trade
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by neverAcquiesce on
Jul 5, 2008 11:24 AM CDT
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trade okay
you can have adam kennedy and Chris Duncan for Marquis and 5 ash bats. (NO maple bats please, we can’t afford any more injured players)
by hoofhearted-pujols on
Jul 5, 2008 11:25 AM CDT
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Just wanted to say...
... thanks to you, hoofhearted, for coming here and having some GOOD discussions about this rivalry and about these games without it degenerating.
This is what I mean when I say this is a great rivalry with respect on both sides.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Jul 5, 2008 11:38 AM CDT
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The other thing to consider is
how Howry would have pitched Pujols with a 1-0 lead? A non intentional walk might have been in order instead of going after him.
by LT on
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+1
I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other til we go away.
by neverAcquiesce on
Jul 5, 2008 11:08 AM CDT
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Redbird fan: let me tell you how many games we have had awful calls
at first go against us that have cost the Cubs a run in tight games. $*it happens. Good teams will fight through it, even if they lose games on bad calls, they will bounce back.
I do agree that ump strike zones have been getting more inconsistent, not less. Very frustrating for hitters.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
by LAcarl519 on
Jul 5, 2008 11:21 AM CDT
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+1
Well said. I’d also be upset that the batter was not protecting that outside corner in that count, especially given the call the umpire had made mere moments before.
"Whoo, boy! Next time around, bring me back my stomach!" -Jack Brickhouse
by Goodie1969 on
Jul 5, 2008 10:51 AM CDT
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You need to understand
it is a ridiculous argument when you make it and a valid one when we make it.;-P.
Here’s the scoop, if you score enough runs, take advantage of all your opportunities then you don’t have to worry about close calls. Good teams win the close ones. I hope the Cubs sweep, but I know that the Cards are a better team than they appear on paper and they have a good manager. I look forward to a good series.
When I go to a Cubs-Cards game I enjoy the friendly rivalry with the Cards fans. Most of them are good people.
Baseball is too much of a sport to be a business and too much of a business to be a sport.
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by bubbamike the one and only on
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The problem is, you're calling balls and strikes off a TV screen.
Because of parallax, you don’t have an accurate view of the strike zone, and so you really don’t know if those were balls or strikes.
by cwyers on
Jul 5, 2008 10:23 AM CDT
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the t.v. angle doesn't move
I don’t care if it was a ball or strike, but the pitches to Soto and Glaus were in the same spot. So it can’t be a ball to one and a strike to the other.
by hoofhearted-pujols on
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Looking at Gameday, the pitches to Soto were a bit lower than the pitches to Glaus.
And they were right around the knees of the animated figure, so a little bit of height could make a difference as to whether they were out of the zone.
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