First Pitch Thread: Cubs vs. Cardinals, Sunday 7/6, 2:15 CT
by Al Yellon on Jul 6, 2008 2:15 PM CDT
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It's good she didn't say first
Sue - unlike 90% of the people on the board - doesn’t strive for attention
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Lee isn't an All-Star this year
DUBYU-TEE-EFF
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Its funny bc he was featured in every Fox ASG commercial this year. Guess Fox messed up again.
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Not sure I love this lineup..
R. Johnson CF 0-1
R. Theriot SS 0-0
D. Lee 1B 0-0
A. Ramirez 3B 0-0
G. Soto C 0-0
M. DeRosa RF 0-0
M. Murton LF 0-0
M. Fontenot 2B 0-0
S. Marshall
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Jeez, at least let him throw a pitch
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
Yep
At this point in time, I am hopeful about marshall.
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
Big curve seems to be working so far
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"
by lostinthevines on Jul 6, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
That's no fun...
We are Cub fans after all..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
+1
But I’d be just as worried or more worried if it was Marquis.
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Up 1-2 on someone named "Joe Mather"
No confirmation if that is his real name.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
2-2 -- crosses up the catcher
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
I just noticed Rich Harden didn't get in the ASG
I know he missed most of April, but that’s a freakin shame. He’s pitching great right now
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
I'm gonna go ahead and think MLB didn't foresee the future
Silliness aside, he’s only given up 3 runs, 1 unearned, in 5 innings. Not that bad
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
And no White Sox pitchers...
Surprised Danks or Floyd didn’t make it..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
That's a crime.
And no Dye, but Creded made it. .263 w/ 16 errors. What a crock.
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"
by lostinthevines on Jul 6, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
16 ERRORS!!!
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"
by lostinthevines on Jul 6, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Mark Grace thinks we should give him the Gold Glove ringht now!
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
Dye still might make it..
with the last player voting thing….but I doubt it..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Ah, one of THOSE strike zones
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
Sit down you HGH freak
“For realsies”
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
LOL
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
Ankiel doesn't see so well...
With the needle jammed in his butt
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
Marshall has that sinker working
Whew
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Edmonds would have caught that
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
He plays shallow
He would have gotten to it.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
But... not every HGH freak
is as easy to retire as Ankiel
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
Only because he plays shallow center
That would have been a triple if it got over his head, knowing the way he runs like my grandma runs now.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Wellemeyer!
LIGHT IM UP!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
I freakin' hate the MLB!!!!!! AAAAHHH
I have absolutely no way of watching the game yesterday, but today they give me the game on TBS AND MLB.TV
THIS SHIT IS FRUSTRATING!!!!!!
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I so hate Ankiel. Freaking HGH
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
Ramy is back!
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Little Leaguers know to make that tag
I love him too…but c’mon
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
half of our guys have been going half way this year on flies like that
and not advancing. It just keeps happening.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
We can't get frustrated these first few innings because once Wellemeyer's pitch count gets above 50 we will start taking BP
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1-0 Cubs
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
thank you HGH!
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
He was too busy thinking how awesome he was, being on HGH and all
totally blanked out with that ball
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
MORE WINE!
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
he's two HRs off
his career high.
At the all-star break.
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 6, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep...thought it might have been my satellite
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
the bad audio
is on both my hd and non hd comcast channels…
"I’ll try to do anything to win a game." - My Man....BIG Z
Yeah.
DirecTV was telling me that I hadn’t ordered the HD CSN feed, which was simply not true, though. I… corrected them, sir.
Thank god it's fixed!
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jul 6, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Molina likes it thru his 5-hole alot.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Edmonds was in lineup this morning but pulled
due to thumb injury on play at the plate yesterday.
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
TBS...I'm in ATL, so only option
I do kind of like the Caray-Martinez tandem. At least it’s better than Miller-Morgan
MLB.TV seems to have the Cardinals feed
so I have roughly synched up WGN AM via MLB Audio.
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
OT: Not sure how many people here like tennis, but the Men's final is on NBC and it is pretty damn good right now
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Tennis, while I believe it is an actual sport and very competitive,
should be an only-girls sport in history.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
= Federer and Nadal
Cancel it out.
"I think Hendry still has a few years to serve on his 'grand larceny' sentence before he can shop in Pittsburgh again" - ballhawk
Fukudome?
Did I miss something – why isn’t the All-Star playing?
Couldn't
He rest against Cincy or SF next week? Just seems weird to have him out of a game we really need. Oh well.
I'm sorry, is this Game 7
If it’s not, we don’t “really need it” to the point of not giving days off.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
With the day off tomorrow...
Lou is thinking KoFu gets two days.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
I hear ya
Just caught me by surprise. I trust Lou!!
Big Z looked like he wanted to do something goofy behind Dempster
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OT: found my cell phone antenna
went online this morning to order a new one, went to grab my credit card and it tumbled out of my purse. I think the cat enjoys punking me.
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
How good would Sean be if he had about 5 more mph on his fastball?
I still sometimes he can’t believe he’s such a soft-tosser for a guy who’s 6’7” (wait for it….)
I never want that name mentioned again
He’s a lousy piece of whale filth
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
did you see the piece where he tried to back pedal?
said he was only joking. Sure, Joe.
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
Selig and the Fox Sports execs
were NOT amused.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
joking about what?
that interview where he said baseball was lame?
''Listen, losing Soriano is no box of chocolates.'' ~Lou Piniella
he didn't say it was lame
but he said he preferred The Bachelorette. Same difference, I suppose.
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
So does my girlfriend
She’s not getting paid a great deal to promote baseball.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
Wellemeyer is leaving a lot of pitches belt high today...
I hope the Cubs hitters are noticing this..
That's what you do
With one out and a runner on first.
by Unrestricted View on Jul 6, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
he only has 38 of 92 hits
to opposite field
by Unrestricted View on Jul 6, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Surprised teams don't use a shift on him..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
That's what I'm thinking.
The only issue with that would be the chance that he bunts down the third base line.
If nothing else..
have the 2b play deeper and the rf play shallow..
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
A Thome or Griffey shift for a RH hitter would be freaking hilarious
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if he slides the ball would likely have been caught
and he could’ve been called out
by cubsonWGN4ever on Jul 6, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice!
Hi y’all.. Thought I’d join you here for a while.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
OK everyone.
Sit up straight and face the front of the classroom!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I refuse
to quit chewing my gum or reading comic books!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
Hey, you there!
Watch it or you’ll go to detention!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Wow!
You’re going to force us to stay here and shoot the breeze about the Cubs?
Some penalty!
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
I thought you'd like that sort of punishment.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
A-RAM!
Think of how stupid the average person is, and remember, half of them are stupider than that!
Slowly adding it on...
...until the lead is insurmountable!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!
Wellemeyer has been hittable for most of his natural life.
I think it’s the stretch where he wasn’t hittable that’s the fluke.
Perhipherals regress to the mean, just not as much as BABIP.
You can get lucky on defense-independent stats too, it’s just not as common.
sure, but we’re looking at a ~100IP 2008 sample size and a progession that began last year. you can be as skeptical as you prefer, of course. i don’t think he’s lights-out, but his improvement over past performance seems clear to me on both eyes and stats.
FIP > ERA, OBP > AVG
100 IP isn't as big of a sample as you think...
...and we don’t have an 100 IP sample, we have a 335 IP sample of his career.
You can look at the regression rates for components here, if you like. (MGL, the guy who wrote that, used to do consulting for the Cardinals.)
i think you’re being a bit presumptuous and argumentative. i didn’t state how big i think a 100IP sample to be, and i have only implied that wellemeyer is more hittable now than he was earlier in the year, due to elbow issues, and that he has shown improvement over the last two years. if you want to dispute that, be my guest, but i think you’re paddling upstream. i haven’t made any predictions about the future.
FIP > ERA, OBP > AVG
We are gonna start really getting to him now, his elbow won't hold up much longer
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Is it just me?
Or does Wellemeyer have freakishly wide shoulders?
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
yes he does
Z used to call him “shoulders”
by TheRamZamDLEE on Jul 6, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
He needs them
to fit his name on the back of his jersey.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Do we know if Wood is availible today?
Not sure what his pitch count has been the last two days
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Let's win 10-0 and then we won't need him.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
You're watching TENNIS!?!?!?!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
This match goes down as one of the great battles of all time
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I'm impressed by Marshall so far.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
Marshall's pitching because the Cardinals don't hit lefties well.
But I’m sure some scouts are watching him, too.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Hasn't looked great last couple of starts
You know Feisty … only takes a couple games to land in his doghouse
Gallagher's been dropped from the rotation.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
that's a good question to ponder
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: Due date (8-11-08)!
You've gotta be a pretty MF to roam center field for the St. Louis Cardinals
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. - Dave Barry
Yeah, like Andy Van Slyke was for all those years.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
According to Baseball-Reference...
...Theriot has 30 hits to the opposite field, 14 pulled, 53 up the middle. Hrm.
What are you thinking?
That he actually DOES spray his hits around and you’re surprised?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
He doesn't spray his hits around; the spray chart is pretty heavy to the right-hand side.
I’m curious as to what the discrepancy between TBS’s numbers and B-Ref’s. B-Ref uses the Project Scoresheet zones; I presume TBS is using some other zone alignment.
If you look at his fly balls...
...Theriot really can’t hit the ball in the air to left field. My hit chart only has home games, but I’m counting only flyout to left. (Yep – one.)
I think you could probably get away with using the wishbone shift on him, and bring the left fielder WAY in to cut off anything he hits to the third base side.
Do you think he'd make adjustments in that case?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I'd think it would.
Not a terrible idea.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
If you can hit the ball there, it's a hit more often.
Harder for the SS and 2Bman to cover the ball there.
so all things being equal, you might say that TheRiot prefers "to take it up the middlle."
...as opposed to pulling it. :-)
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
It's hard to believe that Pujols has been around for 8 years...
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
FYI
Brewers leading Pirates 10-6, bottom 5
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
given Marshall's history of the 2 out
rally (after he retires the first two easily), it always scares you with him.
Go Sean! Keep up the good work!
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
My main problem with Fontenot is that he always hits the ball in the air
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because he isn't strong enough to actually hit the ball far enough most of the time
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Seems liek a pull hitter
would like to see him push the ball to left
Or on the ground...
He has decent wheels.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
I want to really like fontenot – but he has fell in love with the long ball. Makes me wonder if he will have a place on the team if we make moves down the stretch???
Lou has a mancrush on him
He’s a lock to stay on the team all season.
DeRo’s more likely to go than Fontenot.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Ugh.
If this keeps up I’m going to have to start defending Mike Fontenot. Please don’t make me do this. Please.
Opinions on Fontenot seem to swing too far.
Last year when he was hot he was wildly overrated, and this year he’s starting to become (oh lord I can’t believe I’m going to say this) underrated by Cubs fans.
Colin,
I’m making you manager of the Cubs for one week. You inherit the current personnel. (i.e., Sori’s on the DL). The Cubs will face 5 RHPs and 2 LHPs during the week. You are in the middle of a stretch with no off-days.
What is your “regular” starting lineup.
Who is your SS?
How many starts does Fontenot get?
Who plays in the OF?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
We'll start with vs. LHP.
This is off the cuff – haven’t used a lineup simulator or anything.
RF Dome
2B DeRosa
1B Lee
3B Ramirez
C Soto
LF Murton
CF Johnson
SS Cedeno
Pitcher
that works for me
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
by drewishdrewid on Jul 6, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty fair off-the-cuff lineups, I think.
I assume you would put DeRo at 2B in place of Fontenot when Sori returns?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
that red haired-red beard kid in the stands is distracting... lol
We never give up -- Aramis Ramirez
NICE curveball today, Sean.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
FYI
1st overflow thread will be up in about five minutes.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Sean
has his sh!t together today so far. Let’s keep it up!
"We expect to win. We go out to win. So we're just living up to our own expectations." Derrek Lee, 5/29/08
Just curious...
...but is every flyball in Chip Caray’s world a “pop-up”? I long to see a pop-up go over the wall.
In the middle of a good time, Truth gave me her icy kiss. Look around, you must be joking. All that way, all that way for this -Oysterband
Nice!
Bases loaded!!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Overflow thread up.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
We screwed the pooch that inning. Hopefull LaRussa sends him out there for another inning
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