Pregame Thread: Cubs vs. Braves, Wednesday 8/13, 12:10 CT
by Al on Aug 13, 2008 9:00 AM CDT
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Chicago Cubs at Atlanta Braves, Aug 13, 2008 12:10 PM CDT
The Cubs catch a bit of a break with the rainout -- instead of Rich Harden facing Charlie Morton, Harden will face Jorge Campillo, who's thrown very well for Atlanta, in tonight's game. Instead, Morton will face Jason Marquis.
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Here's what I had about Morton in last night's pregame thread:
Charlie Morton will be making his 11th major league start tonight, and first vs. the Cubs. Most of the previous ten have been pretty bad, but five days ago threw seven shutout innings vs. Arizona, the best outing of his career. It appears from his gamelogs that if you can wait him out, you'll draw walks and score often. Sounds like a plan for the Cubs tonight.
Two years ago, Tony LaRussa left Marquis in twice to take ten-run-plus poundings. One was from the White Sox and the other was by the Braves on July 18, 2006. Marquis' other three career starts vs. his former team weren't much better, including June 9, 2007 as a Cub. His career ERA vs. Atlanta is 14.04. It can't get worse. Can it? Actually, if you can keep him away from Chipper Jones (4-for-6 vs. Marquis, 3 HR), he's pretty good against the rest of their current players.
Today's first game is on WGN, also Peachtree TV (TV channels from last night. Also see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Once again, a reminder that you can find the overflow comment threads, including the first pitch thread, on the right sidebar of both the front page and any interior page in the box headed "RECENT STORIES IN GAME THREADS".
Here's how today is going to go. The first game's first pitch thread posts at noon CT, and the overflow comment threads will post at 1:00, 2:00 and 2:45 pm CT. The pregame thread for the night game will go up probably around 4:30 pm CT, but it could be later if the first game goes long for any reason. That'll serve as the first pitch thread for game two, and the game two overflow times will be listed there. Finally, I'll recap BOTH games tomorrow morning.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Get the ball rolling, Marquis...
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 13, 2008 9:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
indeed
keep it low.
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent.
I can agonize over Marquis during the day and watch Harden tonight.
Predicted line on Marquischnick: 5 IP, 4 Earned Runs, goes 1 for 3 at the plate.
C’mon team, get the offense clicking early today.
Sorry folks, parks closed. Moose out front should have told you.
by N Oakley on Aug 13, 2008 9:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would LOVE
if Marquis could give us 7 or 8 today…If we can score some runs early, I have a feeling he might be throwing a LOT of pitches…
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 13, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ummmm.....
Sadly, the only way Marquis goes 7 or 8 is if Lou leaves him out to rot LaRussa style. IMHO.
Sorry folks, parks closed. Moose out front should have told you.
by N Oakley on Aug 13, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marquis went 6.1 against Houston last week...
and 7 twice against San Fran last month, and six in each of the others. He could very easily go 7 today against the collapsing Braves if he’s on his game. He could also just as easily get shelled. But he’s certainly capable of giving us 7 innings against a team like the Braves.
And given that Harden shouldn’t be expected to pitch deep into the game, it’d be really nice if he did to save the bullpen from having double the work.
by SouthernCub on Aug 13, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree it would be really nice if Marquis went at least into the 7th inning today
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by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oy...
The major drawback of this DH, despite the better matchup for Marquis, is that Marquis is pitching the first game of a DH… in what will likely be hot humid mid-afternoon weather = probable short start for Marquis and taxing the bullpen in the first game.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Aug 13, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Today's Atlanta weather forecast is...
This Afternoon: Partly sunny, with a high near 84. North wind around 10 mph.
Doesn’t sound too “hot and humid” to me. You worry too much.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 13, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that worrying about how long Marquis will pitch
can be classified as “worrying too much.” Marquis has averaged 5.2 innings per start over the last year.
by sackings108 on Aug 13, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forget the last year, look at the last two months.
He’s eaten up innings pretty well.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 13, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't it make more sense to look at a prolonged period of time,
where we might see real trends emerge, than to cherry pick the last month and decide he’s become an innings eater?
by sackings108 on Aug 13, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would think that recent trends (over the last month)
would be more indicative of how he might do today…
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 13, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A regression to his personal mean is much more likely
than for him to continue an unsustainable recent trend. Look, I think Marquis is fine as a number 5 starter, but to expect someone who never has gone deep into games, career wise, to start doing so consistently is a little odd.
by sackings108 on Aug 13, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think anyone expects Marquis to go 7 innings every game.
All anyone has said is that, recently, he has been going deeper into games than his career average, and that it is not out of the question for him to do so against a lineup that, sans Chipper Jones, has been struggling all year.
by Flatley on Aug 13, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saying he never has gone deep into games...
is false. The guy has a long history of going deep into games. In 2005, he went seven or more innings 15 times. In 2006, he did it 12 times. In 2007, he did it 8 times. Even this year, he’s done it five times. To EXPECT him to do it may be silly. To say it’s a reasonable possibility is not at all silly, especially against a light-hitting team like Atlanta.
by SouthernCub on Aug 13, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you, I just don't think we should expect it.
by sackings108 on Aug 13, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You shouldn't expect it from almost anyone...
Only Zambrano should be expected to throw 7 innings. Dempster has only pitched through the seventh 9 times this year, and Zambrano has only done it in 12 of 23 starts. But against a team like the Braves, it’s a reasonable possibility, even for Marquis who has only done it in about 25% of his starts the last 1.5 years.
My only real beef was with the statement that Marquis doesn’t have a history of pitching deep into games. In fact, that was pretty much his biggest value when the Cubs signed him.
by SouthernCub on Aug 13, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The good news is we finally have a well rested bullpen
That bad news is after today we won’t. I would have to think that Lou holds either Marmol or Wood out of the morning game so that we have somebody to close out tonight.
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by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 9:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Busy day for Al!
A lot of stuff going on with the double header but I know you can do it! Brewers are charging, we need to get a couple of wins in Atlanta against a not very good team. We can do that. Let’s play two today and get ‘em both then worry about tomorrow. Sounds like a plan. Go Cubs!
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on Aug 13, 2008 9:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Game on CSS (Select Areas)
Charter/Comcast Sports Southeast (CSS) will carry the Peachtree TV feed for the 12 noon central game in Georgia (outside of metro Atlanta), Tennessee, Mississippi, and Alabama. That will be in place of World Team Tennis today. Comcast is the biggest cable provider in GA, TN, AL, MS.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on Aug 13, 2008 9:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
One Game at a time
METS FALL BEFORE THEY RISE IN ‘69 Aug. 13, 1969 | The Cubs beat the Padres, the Cardinals beat the Dodgers and the Mets lose to the Astros—with the Mets falling into third place behind the Cardinals, 10 games behind the first-place Cubs. It’s the Cubs’ largest lead over the Mets in their ill-fated season.
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
by Cubster on Aug 13, 2008 9:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Prefer to Think of '84 and '89
That’s when the Cubs held on to leads over the Mets to win division titles.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on Aug 13, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hear, hear.
That ‘69 date is… well, a bad memory for those of us who lived through it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 13, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can throw that picture of the
girl Cubster uses as an avatar on the list of bad memories. (I’m sure the girl/woman is fine normally, it’s just that photo)
Sorry folks, parks closed. Moose out front should have told you.
by N Oakley on Aug 13, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately.....
Bad memories are a part of Cub’s history. I don’t recall ‘84, ‘89 or ‘03 ending well. I am just trying to keep from getting “giggly” just yet.
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
by Cubster on Aug 13, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suggested future avatars...
1. Garvey waving his fist while circling the bases
2. Will Clark singling up the middle for the Giants
I mean, if you really want to be reminded of how things ended, which is crazzzzzzzzy. Jump on the giggly train, man!!!
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by carmen_fanzone on Aug 13, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or some old Trumpet Player
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
by Cubster on Aug 13, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or this one:
I can haz ur fowl ball?
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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 13, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No habla gibberish
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
by Cubster on Aug 13, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know the feeling
People at work come up to me and say how well the Cubs are doing and I just nod my head in agreement. They always say that I sure don’t act excited and I say because of ‘69, ‘84, etc. I just can’t allow myself to get too up because I’ve been let down too many times before. I’m enjoying this season but not letting myself get to excited about it.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by tucsoncubsfan on Aug 13, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you...
You better expressed what i was trying to say. I love what the Cub’s are doing… but I have been crushed time after time. I am still holding my breath. I believe that it is “Gonna Happen”... but I am not going to get overly confident quite yet
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
by Cubster on Aug 13, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This team
Is better all the way around than the 69 and 84 team though. Not to say you shouldn’t be gun shy about stuff…but we have alot to look forward to, IMHO.
by StevenABQ on Aug 13, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better than '69 team?
Not so sure. Maybe
"We’ve still got a long ways to go, I don’t like to get giggly over things in July. But the team’s playing well, they really are. They’re playing with confidence, and it shows."
by Cubster on Aug 13, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
As sentimental as one can get about it, I think talent-wise this team is much more well rounded. The bullpen is stronger, as is the rotation. Its not to take anything away from the ‘69 team…and it may even be an unfair pitching comparison considering the changes in pitching since that time…but I think overall the team is stronger, again IMO.
by StevenABQ on Aug 13, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can someone tell me
what time the night game is tonight?
and which stations are carrying todays games? work is lame and has some weird sites restricted, like cubs.com (if they only knew how much time i spent on bcb haha)
by cubswynn on Aug 13, 2008 9:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's on the left sidebar.
I always keep that info there. But here you go:
1st game: 12:10 CDT, WGN
2nd game: 6:10 CDT, CSN+
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by Al on Aug 13, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Today
is the PERFECT situation for Sean Marshall to be used. I would love for the Cubs to have a good lead in the middle innings and for Lou to use Sean for 3-4 innings to close out the game. Then we would have a full bullpen for the night game. Would be wonderful to only use 2 pitchers this afternoon.
I know, if wishes were horses…
by Archie on Aug 13, 2008 9:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to see both Marquis and Harden go seven...
(with reasonable pitch counts for Harden, of course), and have to only use Marshall for two innings. Then, you can use the rest of the bullpen like a normal game and not overwork anyone. And you’d still have Marshall available two days later.
by SouthernCub on Aug 13, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be nice, but that's extremely unlikely.
Marquis and Harden have the shortest outings on our pitching staff.
by sackings108 on Aug 13, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say it was likely...
I’d guess probably a ~33% chance of Marquis doing it (given the opponent), and similar or maybe slightly less for Harden (due to his pitch count, not his performance). A 10% chance of it happening for both seems about right to me.
by SouthernCub on Aug 13, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marshall may have to start on Sunday.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 13, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not throw Marquis out there on 3 days rest
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by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't be serious.
It’s tough enough for Marquis on 4 days rest.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 13, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is the only starter whose arm I'm not worried about
You have to think he can squeeze out at least 4 innings. That way we don’t have to save Marshall.
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by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the Match ups today... The only draw back from this DH today
is that Harden can’t start Sunday against the Fish (who they typically have trouble against). That and DH’s usually end in a split.
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by Fishbone2 on Aug 13, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it will actually be a blessing...
With the off-day on Monday, Harden can now take an extra day and start Tuesday against the Reds at Wrigley…
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 13, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harden against the Reds sounds like a no-hitter waiting to happen
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by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And no Adam Dunn!
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 13, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its okay to say it now
Come the 8th inning Tuesday when its happening, then I will keep my mouth shut.
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by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hate the dh
too me it seems like dh’s help out the weaker of teams (this case the braves) bc it is so hard to sweep
by cubswynn on Aug 13, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
The stat’s that Al provided yesterday showed that DH’s are swept about half the time…
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 13, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm well shut my mouth
i’m really off my game today, sorry guys
by cubswynn on Aug 13, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was surprised at the stat...
It seems like they are more often than not split…Oh well…
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 13, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too...
I guess it’s 50-50 today.
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by Fishbone2 on Aug 13, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they are swept half the time
doesn’t that mean they’re split the other half?
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
by flachimesa on Aug 13, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep... Kind of a useless stat.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Aug 13, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"That's why we kick your butts in football almost half the time."
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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 13, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those are great bragging rights :)
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Aug 13, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yabbut
It’s just two games in a row. It’s hard to win both of those, two, even if they are played on different days.
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 13, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why
We may not see him today relieving Harden.
I’m somewhat confused, though. Marshall is rested, so why not throw him TODAY instead of Marquis? Then save Marquis for Sunday (when he was supposed to pitch, I think) and let Marshall relieve him (he’d probably be good to go for a few innings by then).
I’m just worried, given our recent track record in Florida, that last night’s rainout is really gonna come back to bite us.
by Chadnudj on Aug 13, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harden was supposed to pitch on Sunday
If Harden had pitched yesterday Sunday is his 5th day. So now the Fish see: Z, Demp, ?
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Aug 13, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the record...
...I really like having the Minor League reports on the front page. Josh puts so much hard work into them, and I think the added exposure is nice. I sometimes miss out on them because I don’t think to check them, or just miss them, so now hopefully everyone (including myself) will be able to enjoy them everyday…
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 13, 2008 9:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Got to have a plus .500 road trip against these teams
Milwaukee in my estimation is going to land a playoff spot along with the Cubs. Question becomes which one of us wins the division. Cubs have the unkinder schedule the rest of the way out. But that’s OK.
Jason Marquis has done the job this year. Hopefully both he and Rich Harden are good for 6 innings each today.
I’m guessing that Sean Marshall will be groomed to start Sunday’s games ???
by MDBNIU on Aug 13, 2008 10:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I still think Marquis on 3 days rest
We need Marshall to be able to throw some innings today as insurance for Rich Harden. Not to mention saving him for a start shortens up the bullpen, which will be taxed with 6 games in the next 5 days.
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by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Harden on so much rest
and a weak Braves lineup, maybe he can keep his pitch-count low and put in his longest outing of the year…Just a little mid-week optimism…
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 13, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be a huge boost
But I really don’t expect Harden to go much for than 5 innings in any of his starts.
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by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We might see a pitcher swap within a few days
If the bullpen does get a heavy workout the next few days we might see the Cubs swap out somebody for Jon Lieber. Or maybe Michael Wuertz. Keep in mind that rosters expand September 1st.
by MDBNIU on Aug 13, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for one of them coming back up
Who would we send down?
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by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Props for your Harden talk back in May
I am new to BCB this year…just wanted to mention that I remember one poster being adamant about Harden being the guy we need and most everyone saying he’s too injury-prone, etc. Of course CC is lights-out too but you really nailed it with your support of this guy. He has the kind of stuff that can shut down playoff teams. Bravo!
""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone
by kentmeister on Aug 13, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh my....
Yes, MBDNIU ranted on acquiring Harden, but advocated emptying the farm to acquire. I don’t recall anyone against Harden, but recall most everyone against spending the level MBDNIU was willing to spend.
All that said, I love the acquisition and have no buyers remorse over the cost.
Sorry folks, parks closed. Moose out front should have told you.
by N Oakley on Aug 13, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep, Hendry did fine
I loved Murton when he came up but he’s lost his mojo (thanks, Dusty). E-Patt is no loss either so I was quite pleased w/ the deal. Gallagher we’ll wait and see but even if he’s great it would be worth it to win this year!
""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone
by kentmeister on Aug 13, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh boy
Geez kentmeister. Would you also be interested in purchasing a race horse? I’m thinking MBDNIU could sell race horses.
by StevenABQ on Aug 13, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just a new guy
it’s all good! Don’t know what the history is w/ this guy and everyone else, but since I also tend to be somewhat critical by nature I think it’s a good idea to acknowledge it when someone puts himself out there and turns out to be right. :-)
""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone
by kentmeister on Aug 13, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear ya
Hey man, this is the first year I’ve worked up the courage to post here. Last year I just crept around. But you point is well stated, and taken.
by StevenABQ on Aug 13, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cool
now let’s fly that W flag TWICE today!
""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone
by kentmeister on Aug 13, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also started as lurker for quite a while last season.....
to now planning a Madison bcb outing. What a difference a year makes.
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 13, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I noticed the outing plans
If I lived anywhere near there I would be all over it, sounds like a cool deal, nice work.
by StevenABQ on Aug 13, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, he was half right...
He was willing to trade the entire organization for a guy who has spent almost as much time on the DL as Mark Prior. If he’d suggested the package we wound up sending, I don’t think he’d have caught nearly as much flack.
And remember – nobody disagreed with him on Harden’s talent. His talent is among the top 5 or so pitchers in baseball – when he’s healthy. The disagreement came upon Harden’s injury risk and the amount of prospects he was willing to trade for that injury risk.
by SouthernCub on Aug 13, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When was the last time...
the Cubs sweept a DH? I remember them swepting the pirates to clinch in ‘03, but other then that it seems like they always split them.
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
by MerlinDog on Aug 13, 2008 10:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering the same thing!
seems like I can count on my fingers the times they’ve swept a DH. But at least we’re the deepest team in the league so we can run quality guys out there in both games
""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone
by kentmeister on Aug 13, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i remember that day too
what a great day….if my memory serves me correctly, didn’t we win the second game of the series on a double play?
by cubswynn on Aug 13, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes we did
One of the things that stick out in my mind is the Baeball Tonight highlight showing Ron Santo standing up in the booth cheering.
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
by MerlinDog on Aug 13, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The division clinching game, the 2nd game of that DH...
... was indeed ended with a double play.
And that is also the last time the Cubs swept a doubleheader.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 13, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The division clinching game, the 2nd game of that DH...
... was indeed ended with a double play.
And that is also the last time the Cubs swept a doubleheader.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Aug 13, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now let's see how good you really are Al
name the double play combination…...
by cubswynn on Aug 13, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reply fast and
don’t check the scorecard.
Sorry folks, parks closed. Moose out front should have told you.
by N Oakley on Aug 13, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's do this!!!!
Good luck today Jason Marquis!!!
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
by sue369 on Aug 13, 2008 10:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think tihe key today is getting the bats going
Other than the Milwaukee series, we’ve struggled scoring runs on the road.
by Mapmaker on Aug 13, 2008 10:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubs need to start manufacturing runs...
Cubs have to get back to executing and manufacturing runs. It’s all well and good to mash, but there are times when scoring runs becomes difficult because the team is tired, in a slump, facing great pitching, whatever. ESPECIALLY come playoff time the ability to manufacture runs is supremely important. I would like to see the Cubs work on becoming more proficient in this department over the next few weeks. In the playoffs we might face the likes of Brandon Webb, Danny Haren, the Big Unit, Ben Sheets, CC Sabathia, Johan Santana, Cole Hamels…you don’t wait around for the 3 run homer that will never come against the likes of pitchers like that.
by MDBNIU on Aug 13, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, other than Sori and Jimmy Ballgame,
there hasn’t been a lot of mashing in the Cubs lineup. D-Lee and Rami have not been hitting home runs at thier normal clip. Geo an DeRo have provided some extra pop, but overall the team hasn’t been scoring only via the HR.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 13, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course they haven't.
This has been one of the better Cub teams I’ve seen in terms of manufacturing runs. Mike just enjoys setting up strawmen to have something to rant about.
by sackings108 on Aug 13, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate strawmen. Where's my lighter?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 13, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well no Ronny Woo Woo, that's incorrect
Cubs have become much less sound in playing “small ball” the past two months. And yes playing small ball becomes instrumental in the playoffs when you typically go up against the best starting pitchers in the game.
by MDBNIU on Aug 13, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stat me then, all knowing genius. Support your claims.
by sackings108 on Aug 13, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're instigating...
You’re trying to bait MDB into a rant here…
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by bobby h on Aug 13, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No he's not.
It’s fair to ask BM to support his claims. Unfortunately he never does and sackings knows this.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
by sue369 on Aug 13, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they haven't?
we beat St. Louis without the long ball.
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Per Suntimes:
Same lineup as Tuesday for 1st game of DH.
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by Fishbone2 on Aug 13, 2008 10:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So Dome second and Riot 8th?
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by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yessir.
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by Fishbone2 on Aug 13, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then its time for Dome to step it up
Between Soriano and Lee is where every Cub hitter prolly wants to be. Fastball city.
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by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one who thinks Derrek Lee is vastly overrated?
by sackings108 on Aug 13, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about some positive GOOD karma today!
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by Fishbone2 on Aug 13, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying he isn't good, because he is a very good major league hitter.
But I really believe he’s been riding his amazing 2005 year for a while now. I mean look around baseball, and you’ll find many 1B better than Lee, at least in terms of hitting, and yet many Cub fans act like Lee is an offensive star, when he simply isn’t. Just my opinion, of course.
by sackings108 on Aug 13, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is the best defensive first baseman in the game
His offense is overrated a little by a lot of people. He is a 25 homer guy who will give you 90-100 RBI if given the opportunities. He is also gonna hit .300. He isn’t a superstar, but he is a star.
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by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he is very good defensively.
But a quick search of baseballanalysts.com, specifically their defensive metric, rates Lee as the 7th best defensive 1B in the NL, adding 7.2 runs a year. He’s behind Berkman, Votto, Pujols, Helton, Texiera, and James Loney. I think you may be reaching a bit.
by sackings108 on Aug 13, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soriano is the offensive star.
I love Lee he’s a Cub. In the NL other than Pujols I would take him because he is a complete player.
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by Fishbone2 on Aug 13, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take Lee... Sorry.
Offensively he is better. All around I would take Lee.
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by Fishbone2 on Aug 13, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Berkman has been better defensively than Lee this year.
by sackings108 on Aug 13, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, let's look at some stats then.
First, a crude one, fielding percentage.
Lee-.992
Berkman-.996
How about plays on balls in fielding zone
Lee’s Balls in Zone- 134, Plays-107
Berkman’s BIZ-148, Plays, 129
Berkman has been better.
by sackings108 on Aug 13, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Listen... This whole overrated argument is Moot.
He’s a Cub. He’s a good ballplayer. I root for Lee, I even like Lee as the Cubs first baseman. He has some flaws but all players do. He’s what they got and I like cheering for him. Sorry.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Aug 13, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geeze, relax. I like cheering for him as well, and I'm glad the Cubs have him.
I just am always surprised by how most Cub fans act as if he’s an elite hitter, because he isn’t. He is a good hitter, and a very good defensive player, and certainly a big contributor to the Cub offense.
by sackings108 on Aug 13, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm fine...I just think I recall having this same debate
with either you or someone else 2 weeks ago.
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by Fishbone2 on Aug 13, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only difference
in their fielding percentage is the 4 extra errors that Lee has been charged with…Other than those 4 errors (scored subjectively) their FP would be identical, since FP = PO+A / PO+A+E…but I think it’s really a round-about argument….Too many independent factors to take into consideration to use a single season FP or Zone Rating to determine who is a better fielder…Especially when Berkman has consistently played OF his whole career…
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 13, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Berkman doesn't have to deal with Theriot and ARam's crap throws all season
DLee saves those two a lot of errors over the course of the season.
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by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting that
a 1B (more than any other defensive position) is routinely in a spot where another player’s defensive performance effects HIS directly (if that makes sense…) First basemen have to deal with the entire infield, and make up for their mistakes…
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 13, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're looking at Errors...
Errors aren’t a good stat to show whether someone is “good” defensively or not.
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by Fishbone2 on Aug 13, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No matter what you look at...
Berkman has not been better defensively than D. Lee this year. Let’s stop bagging on a .290 hitter with a gold glove.
Jimmyeatworld
by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 13, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially for a firstbaseman.
You have to look at the number of errors he saves for the other infielders.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 13, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you call
“better defensively” – his ability to get back in the dugout during a lightning storm.
by StevenABQ on Aug 13, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great bat, but hids glove is not in D-Lee's class.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 13, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Lee
And I can’t think of anyone else I’d like to have scooping balls out of the dirt from Rami. And really in terms of the Top 5 NL 1B, his numbers are fairly comparable. And where he is lacking he more than makes up for it with his glove.
by StevenABQ on Aug 13, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that his wrist injury has caused
some long time negative results. He doesn’t seem to drive the ball like he did before the injury. Balls that he hit into the right-center gap are now weak fly balls to right. They still don’t pitch him inside so the opportunities to drive the ball to left are few. He seems to try to pull outside pitches with runners on which result in grounders to short and double plays.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 13, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
And I think one of the unstated points here is his leadership and professionalism. Living near Philly, many think that Jimmy Rollins is having his “issues” in part because there is no team leader. Charlie Manuel, certainly not, but there are no players who would take him aside and tell him to grow up. Guys like Lee contribute to a culture in which those things don’t happen (and Lou P of course). Can’t prove any of this, just speculation.
""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone
by kentmeister on Aug 13, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lee was the first one in the clubhouse breaking up the Z-Barrett fight last year
He also was the one who called a team meeting early last year when Jacque Jones was pissed Dusty was gone. He let Jacque vent his problems and then they that problem went away.
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by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't want
to piss him off! good points.
""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone
by kentmeister on Aug 13, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that Derek is the
last person that would complain about any long-term effects from his injury, but his drop-off seems to coincide with that event.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 13, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm, OT, but pretty...interesting?
Chad Johnson to change last name to ‘Ocho Cinco’ ???
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 13, 2008 10:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Awesome. The No Fun League will prolly throw a fit. but there will be nothing they can do about it.
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by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like ocho cinco
only because he’s on my team…...if he wasn’t i’d think he was a tool
by cubswynn on Aug 13, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guy obviously isn't getting enough publicity....
Nobody cares about your fantasy league team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 13, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
even though he can be a distraction and a pain in the ass...
..you’ve at least got to give him some serious humor points.
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by bobby h on Aug 13, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dang my dish network just crashed...
hope it comes on before gametime
by Blaze22 on Aug 13, 2008 11:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Could the Shark be Sunday's starter?
http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/374
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by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 11:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
Maybe more likely than Marshall, depending how today goes. I guess the Braves have a fairly left-focused lineup so Lou may want to use Marshall throughout this series.
My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.
by JohnM on Aug 13, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see the Cubs sweeping today.
Our club is deeper than any NL club I’ve seen in a while, and that should pay off in a DH. Of course that doesnt help with the first game with all our normal starters. Gotta win the first one.
Looking for Ward and Fonty to come up big in Game 2
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."
by californiachicagoan on Aug 13, 2008 11:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why on earth would Ward play in game 2?
DLee should be able to play both games.
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by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gameday Audio
Anyone else subscribe? There appears to be no link to Game 1 . . . rather annoying.
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 13, 2008 11:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just about to post that
Extreme anoyance. I’m relying on MLB.TV here…
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by JohnM on Aug 13, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shang, can't you pick up GN?
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by Fishbone2 on Aug 13, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not inside the office, no. Too much concrete and steel.
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 13, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have the same problem BUT
Post a radio near the window and use wireless headphones.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Aug 13, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good idea, but I'm at least 200 feet from a window
And would have to use someone’s office. Usually gameday works just fine; I’ve only had a handful of problems.
I’d prefer a radio, of course, because of the delay . . . .
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 13, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Supertation doesn't extend beyond US borders, I don't think
nor does WGN AM’s signal….
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by JohnM on Aug 13, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in Milwaukee at the moment
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 13, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you smell cheese?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I usually look at it first
If there’s no mold, it’s ok to eat
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 13, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like he said, US borders.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 13, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Careful....
Fishbone, Madison, Berselius, mondello and a host of others are in WI.
Of course, if you exclude Milwaukee from the U.S. and include the rest of the state, I’m ok with that.
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 13, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, If we can't pick on our buddies north of
the border, who can we pick on?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 13, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
;-)
Don’t worry, I didn’t take it seriously
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 13, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Besides, Fishbone is my buddy. Like Al Czervek and Judge Smails!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 13, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that's the worst hat I've ever seen.
Wonder if you get a free bowl of soup when you buy a hat like that…Looks good on you though!
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by Fishbone2 on Aug 13, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on Wang, it's a parking lot!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 13, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wang is an underrated character...Hilarious!
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
by Fishbone2 on Aug 13, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tell ya ...... golf courses and cemetaries are
the biggests wastes of real estate in the world!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 13, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cub Fan Diaspora represents
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by JohnM on Aug 13, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Click on the other game with a link and then switch over the the Cubs game
That works for me most of the time when the direct link isn’t posted.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 13, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't get AM in
our office building either..and I sit by a window….any suggestions?
I'm a reader not a poster, but I'm also a poster so don't get any ideas.
by cozmotaylor123 on Aug 13, 2008 11:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is there roof access?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't jump!
just follow pbp here.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel
by Blue W on Aug 13, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you have an AM antenna?
Where are you—in a downtown area?
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 13, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like
You should invest in XM. I never miss a game during the week, sure beats MLB Game Day. And its really cheap.
by StevenABQ on Aug 13, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, guess I'll have to go out to lunch
So I can hear SOME of the game . . .
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 13, 2008 12:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you normally out to lunch when a Cubs game is on?????
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 13, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Did anyone see our men's swimming relay team destroy everyone last night?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2008 12:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So. Freaking. Awesome.
I mean…5 seconds? Are you kidding me?
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 13, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We rule in the pool!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 13, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we continue to dominate like this in men's swimming...
the IOC will figure out a way to change the rules to “help” the rest of the world.
Maybe everyone else will get a 3 second head start and our swimmers will be required to wear tap shoes.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the fly
Phelps’ goggles filled witih water and he couldn’t see…no big deal
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 13, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We 'Mericans
swim gooder than anybody else.
I've told you a million times never to exaggerate!!
by pscrblazer on Aug 13, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally awesome!!
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
by sue369 on Aug 13, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CHICAGO CUBS BASEBALL
is ON THE AIR!
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2008 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Overflow is up...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
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