Chicago Cubs @ Atlanta Braves GameThread, Aug 13, 2008 6:15 PM CDT

Open Thread: Cubs vs. Braves, Wednesday 8/13 (Game Two), 6:15 CT

by Al on Aug 13, 2008 4:30 PM CDT in Game Threads

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Chicago Cubs
@ Atlanta Braves

Wednesday, Aug 13, 2008, 6:15 PM CDT
Turner Field

Rich Harden vs Jorge Campillo

Clear. Winds blowing in from right field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 75.

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Nice win this afternoon -- now let's keep it going and get the Cubs' first doubleheader sweep since the division-clinching sweep of the Pirates on September 27, 2003.

This thread will serve as the first-pitch thread as well as the pregame thread for game two; the schedule for the overflow threads is below. I'll post a more complete recap of both doubleheader games tomorrow morning.

Rich Harden, who was originally supposed to start last night and is instead starting this game, thus won't be able to start on short rest Sunday in Florida; instead, Lou will have choices:

The Cubs may wait to see who they need in the Atlanta series before picking a starter for Sunday.

"I can't bring Harden back on short rest, but I can bring Marquis back possibly," Piniella said Wednesday. "By him pitching the day game, it gives him a little longer time. If not, we'll either pitch [Jeff] Samardzija or pitch [Sean] Marshall."

Samardzija, of course, started in the minors but hasn't gone more than two innings since his recall. Harden, then, would likely go again on Tuesday against the Reds at home. But that's getting ahead of ourselves.

Today's Starting Pitchers


R. Harden Cubs	vs.	J. Campillo Braves


6-2	W-L	7-4
2.27	ERA	2.83
139	SO	81
40	BB	21
10	HR	10
vs. Atl	--	vs. Cubs

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2008 - Rich Harden	1-1	5	5	0	0	0	0	30.0	22	8	7	5	9	47	2.10	1.03

Again, a reminder that these numbers are Harden's with the Cubs only; his full-season numbers are in the pitcher box above.

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2008 - Jorge Campillo	7-4	30	16	1	0	0	0	114.1	100	40	36	10	21	81	2.83	1.06

The Braves must like Jorge Campillo a lot; they originally signed him in 1996, but released him a year later. He bounced around the Mariners' chain for a long time and pitched in eight games for them from 2005-2007 with little success. This year, forced into Atlanta's rotation by injuries, he's done quite well. He has never faced the Cubs.

Again, since I wrote about Harden in the thread for last night's rained-out game, here's a repeat of that for this one:

Rich Harden faced the Braves in interleague play on May 17 in Atlanta and got a win. He allowed four hits in seven innings, all singles, walked one and struck out eight. One of those hits was by Mark Teixeira, who's no longer on the team. Casey Kotchman, who was acquired for Teixeira, is 3-for-12 (all singles) vs. Harden (from Kotchman's days with the Angels while Harden was in the AL).

Tonight's game can be found on CSN Plus (CLTV in Chicago; check your cable system if you're not in the city), and on SportSouth, and BOTH feeds are on EI. Also see the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday

Baseball-reference.com game preview

Once again, a reminder that you can find the overflow comment threads, including the first pitch thread, on the right sidebar of both the front page and any interior page in the box headed "RECENT STORIES IN GAME THREADS". As noted above, this thread will serve as both the pregame and first pitch thread, since it's being posted near 5 pm CT, and the overflow comment threads will post at 6:45, 7:45 and 8:30 pm CT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Let's make this a sweep!

Go get em Harden!

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 13, 2008 4:30 PM CDT 0 recs

Comment!

by bms on Aug 13, 2008 4:32 PM CDT 0 recs

Dear Cubs Offense,

Please score more runs than Rich Harden allows. This shouldn’t be that difficult.

Thank You.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2008 4:32 PM CDT 0 recs

Hey, you can’t do that. You don’t run this place….

Sorry folks, parks closed. Moose out front should have told you.

by N Oakley on Aug 13, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up 0 recs

I most certainly do....and I run it with an

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up 0 recs

Little red x?

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 13, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up 0 recs

Coupled with an adult joke, that would hurt.

Sorry folks, parks closed. Moose out front should have told you.

by N Oakley on Aug 13, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up 0 recs

I think we shoudl score

more runs than Rich Harden Ks.

And less than 10 Ks is unacceptable!

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up 0 recs

dear cubs offense

please take some pitches. three braves pitchers went over fiddy tosses in game one. use up bobby cox’ options.

by tim815 on Aug 13, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up 0 recs

I sure do hope the offense keeps it in high gear tonight

Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs

by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 4:34 PM CDT 0 recs

Wasn't there an old rule

that excess runs in a doubleheader can be banked for use in the second game?

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 13, 2008 4:36 PM CDT 0 recs

baseball grew up. this ain't grandpa's game

Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs

by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up 0 recs

the mound isnt 83 feet anymore...

Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 13, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up 0 recs

but GLOVES are still for sissies!

Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.

by IowaCubs- on Aug 13, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up 0 recs

and baseball was way better

when the batter got to call for where he wanted the pitch

soriano, “inside corner, thigh high.”

by tim815 on Aug 13, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up 0 recs

TWSS

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up 0 recs

Not, "At my face, please."

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 13, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up 0 recs

I'm calling

a technical balk!

Umps 1, Cubs 0, Braves 0

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up 0 recs

I'm kicking dirt on you and screaming loudly!!!

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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 13, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up 0 recs

Is that technical dirt or real dirt?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 13, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up 0 recs

Virtual Dirt

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 13, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up 0 recs

I'm calling

a virtual technical groundskeeper

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

Lawnmower Man?

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 13, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

Pierce Brosnan

call for you on the white courtesy phone.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up 0 recs

Very nice!

+1 for the clever reference!

by jdb-44 on Aug 13, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up 0 recs

about time this thread opened

the last one’s been over for, what, half an hour?

heh

by tim815 on Aug 13, 2008 4:36 PM CDT 0 recs

it's been SO LONG

since there was baseball!!!!!

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up 0 recs

Yeah, after two days off, this is like a weekend bender

Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.

by IowaCubs- on Aug 13, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up 0 recs

Except we'll remember it in the morning.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 13, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up 0 recs

speak for yourself!!!!

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 13, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up 0 recs

quick!

someone drive around in a car out the top of the moon-roof without their shirts!

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up 0 recs

Where is the girl power when you need it?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up 0 recs

sue?

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

you rang?

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 13, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up 0 recs

scroll up, please

we have need of your services.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up 0 recs

WHEW

Luckily, I only had 33 minutes of work to do the entire day.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 13, 2008 4:39 PM CDT 0 recs

Poor bastard.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 13, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up 0 recs

(sarcasm)

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 13, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up 0 recs

Oh, I'm aware.

make/art

by neverAcquiesce on Aug 13, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up 0 recs

A Porn Director's day is grueling sometimes.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up 0 recs

bow chikka wow wow

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up 0 recs

Oh jeesh. Do I have to show you again…

Sorry folks, parks closed. Moose out front should have told you.

by N Oakley on Aug 13, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up 0 recs

Today was "Bring Your Grandparents to Work Day"...so, you can imagine the excitement in the air around the office

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 13, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up 0 recs

excitement = legs?

Sorry folks, parks closed. Moose out front should have told you.

by N Oakley on Aug 13, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up 0 recs

I'm jealous

My head’s about to explode from spending this week (and counting) developing a presentation. No Cubs! I can’t tell you how painful it is to miss day games… but as long as we’re winning, I’m a happy camper.

by Emelie on Aug 13, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up 0 recs

so did i miss anything significant in the first game?

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 13, 2008 4:46 PM CDT 0 recs

Atlanta pitcher got tossed for throwing at Soriano

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 13, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up 0 recs

who was thrown at for posing.

Sorry folks, parks closed. Moose out front should have told you.

by N Oakley on Aug 13, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up 0 recs

why were they playing beanball?

still angry from last year when he “showed them up” after hitting 3 hrs in a game?

cox lives up to his name!!

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 13, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up 0 recs

Soriano hit a shot, posed, but it was not a HR

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 13, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up 0 recs

well, im glad sori

didnt retaliate…that the reason he spent 5 weeks or so on the DL earlier. that is bush league crap…

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 13, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up 0 recs

Cox wasn't there

he got tossed earlier

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 13, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up 0 recs

he may have called it from his office

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 13, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up 0 recs

im sure he did...

gotta make there meaningless baseball exciting somehow

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 13, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up 0 recs

My take on this

I give credit to Adam Calderelli for pointing out that this all goes back to `07 vs. Braves. Bear with my fuzzy recall. Feel free to correct/fill in my blanks:
2007
1. Soriano hits 3 homers in 1 game in Atlanta.
2. Braves retaliate with HBP.
3. Lilly retaliates next game, gets ejected in first inning.
4. Hit batsman (forgot name) delivers forearm smash to Mike Fontenot on play at 2nd.

2008:
5. Braves drill Soriano in Wrigley, bust his hand.
6. Soriano hot dogs drive off wall at Atlanta.
7. Braves throw at his head.

TBC…

by thermal54 on Aug 14, 2008 7:31 AM CDT up 0 recs

That was Edgar Renteria who stuck his fist in Fontenot's face as he slid into the bag

However, there is a disconnect in this chain of events: number 4 and number 5 were both the Braves doing something to the Cubs. Actually, I don’t remember if number 5 was on purpose – maybe it wasn’t but rekindled all of this.

Finally, the thing that started all this last year was so much that Soriano hit 3 homers, I think it was that he cadillaced it on all three.

Interesting that Lilly is the starting pitcher today. Adds a bit of drama, since he’s the one pitcher involved who might still hold a grudge from last year…..

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Aug 14, 2008 7:42 AM CDT up 0 recs