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Soriano needs to be disciplined

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Alfonso Soriano not running out of the batter box on what he thought was a home run today was inexcusable.   It's not the first time this garbage has happened with Soriano.   And I understand completely why Bobby Cox and the Braves might be peeved off and want to fire a fastball into Soriano's earhole the next chance they get.  

My admiration and support of Lou Piniella is unwavering.   But he has horrible blind spot with Soriano that needs to end.   What needed to happen today was for Piniella to PUBLICLY make spectacle of Soriano.   Like in the same vein as Billy Martin yanked Reggie Jackson from a game in 1977 when Reggie played a ball hit to right field on about the 50th hop.   Sweet Lou was on that team by the way.   Because obviously Soriano isn't getting the message via other means.  

If my detractors want to make this an argument of me having long-standing disdain for Soriano, then so be it.   This viewpoint of mine has nothing to do with overall opinion of Soriano.   I would say the same thing if it were Ryan Theriot who did what happened today. 

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Bruce wrote about this

http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/376

“I talked to Alfonso about it,” Lou said. “I told him that he’s one of our leaders here and there’s no need for that. He agrees and he says it won’t happen again. It’s over.”

“I apologized to him, and I apologized to my teammates,” Soriano said. “I said that’s not going to happen again, and I apologized to him.”

by John Q Freejazz on Aug 13, 2008 5:02 PM CDT   0 recs

my guess is that this will not be a problem

going down to Aram as well. Being publicly embarrassed will do much, apologizing to the team is significant, and I bet the Kangaroo Court led by DLee and Wood will be in session as well.

Not to worry MDBNIU…..I am not worried.

BTW Atlanta disciplined him also, headhunting…..

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Aug 13, 2008 5:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm pleased to hear this...

...that said this is not the first occurrence of Alfonso Soriano acting like a hotdog. So while he said all the right things today I’m not so sure he won’t do the same damned thing down the road. One thing I’ve learned about Soriano is that he needs an outlet for the showman inside him, ala Sam-ME Steroid. Maybe Soriano should dispense with the antics in the batter’s box and instead blow kisses from the dugout. I’d be more comfortable with that.

by MDBNIU on Aug 13, 2008 5:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He did flash the peace sign to Dan Uggla a few weeks ago after hitting a homer

That kind of counts as blowing a kiss. Alfonso has a lot of hot dog in him, thats just who he is. Nothing Lou does is gonna change that. Call him selfish or whatever, but the guy can play baseball and is a real good clubhouse presence.

Look at the picture on this site from Blanco’s walkoff win. Soriano is the first player out to hug Blanco.

He may do some things that will anger a lot of baseball people, but he is a great player and a great teammate. I see no harm in him showing off a little, though today’s little showing wasn’t his finest moment.

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by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 5:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Great teammate

Agreed. Soriano is a showoff, a hotdog, whatever – and I agree with the general idea that he has to run everything out at all times. Still, a lot of the showoff-ness is borne out of a genuine excitement about the game – much like Z fist-pumping after a critical strikeout.

Moreover, Soriano really gets the same amount of excitement out of his teammates successes – how many photos have we seen of Soriano running (leaping) out to high-five a teammate after their walkoff hit. I remember after particularly critical hit Cliff Floyd had last year while Soriano was on the DL, Soriano was standing on the top step of the dugout pointing and yelling at Floyd on first base, saying something like “YOU! YOU DID IT!”

He seems like the kind of guy who is happy after a win in which he goes 0-4, and down after a loss in which he goes 3-4 with 3 RBI. He plays with emotion, and that’s going to get the best of him on occasion. And as long as that emotion drives him to greatness, I don’t think that any of us will care all that much.

by D98 on Aug 13, 2008 9:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

DEROSA: How did it feel when you're sitting in Baton Rouge and it came across the ticker that Mark DeRosa had just signed to play second base with the Chicago Cubs.

THERIOT: In all honestly, when I saw it, I really felt like punching you right in the mouth and or breaking your leg.

by EJThunder on Aug 13, 2008 9:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I didn't hear Lou making an excuse for it, which I think is the best that one can ask for...

...given that the same team hit him previously AND the hotdogging did not cost the Cubs a game. A manager has a tough job and he has to push the right buttons at the right time. Managing these egos isn’t easy. I think it would have done more harm than good for Lou to yank him or to go ape sh&* in the media afterwards. While the actions are unacceptable there are mitigating factors here—the Braves knocked him out before and it didn’t cost anything. That doesn’t make the actions acceptable but it does mean that Lou should respond with restraint.

by DudeVf11 on Aug 13, 2008 10:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Five Homeruns

For punishment he should have to hit five consecutive homers, that’ll teach him.

Honestly though, I agree that it’s maddening. Ramirez used to do this, but was likely protecting his hamstrings. If he’s going to admire a shot it better be an upper-deck or a Waveland shot, but looking at those barely homers (or lonf singles) can come back to bite you big time.

I see in the post above that he apologized. Hopefully this doesn’t happen again. Be glad that it didn’t happen at a critical time and move forward.

by WittyUserName on Aug 13, 2008 5:04 PM CDT   0 recs

IMO

They threw at him for attempting a steal up 6 runs. Thats what Hughes thought, thats what Otto though and thats what I thought.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 13, 2008 5:05 PM CDT   0 recs

Agreed

Atlanta was pissed off because of the steal attempt, hence why Bueno was gunning for Soriano.

by MDBNIU on Aug 13, 2008 5:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Old school of though

Up 6 runs after the 6th. Or is it up 6 runs in the 6th or later. Either way, Cox is old school baseball.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 13, 2008 5:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, I agree with Bobby Cox

It would piss me off too if a known flashy player on the opposition was stealing bases with the Cubs having the game well in hand against a meager and beaten up opponent.

by MDBNIU on Aug 13, 2008 5:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Im not opposed to the reaction of the Braves

.....im opposed to the location of the pitch.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 13, 2008 5:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you NEVER give up an opportunity.

The Cubs came back from being down 9-1 to win a game. You ALWAYS take your opportunities. Baseball 101.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2008 5:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Gotta agree here

Boston was up on Texas yesterday 10-0 after the first inning and then was down 15-14 at one point. My philosophy is this, when the other team stops trying to score, so will I. Until then, I’m going to keep at them.

Also remember, today that Marquis was pitching as well. He has a tendency to pitch well and then just implode. You don’t take any chances.

"Dad gum right this games gonna be played under protest. . . I guarantee this is gonna be one protest that's upheld." --Hawk Harrelson, 6/24/07

by RynoHoF on Aug 13, 2008 5:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

it that situation

you do. our best player who is having trouble staying healthy and rarely steals cause he cant run well anymore shouldnt being attempting a steal that is unless he’s tried to show them up. I agree he probably was and we dont need pitchers from a playoff team with nothing to play for, throwing fastballs at our players pie holes.

from the mouth of Uecker:

"Am I the only one who’s glad it’s only a 4-game series? If was a 9-game series, I think the Cubs would win them all."

by cubsluver22 on Aug 13, 2008 5:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

non-playoff team that is

from the mouth of Uecker:

"Am I the only one who’s glad it’s only a 4-game series? If was a 9-game series, I think the Cubs would win them all."

by cubsluver22 on Aug 13, 2008 5:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

what are you talking about?

he’s back from the DL, and his legs are finally healthy. OF COURSE we want him to steal!!!

And he’s doing REALLY well at it. Has he been CS once since coming back from the DL? I don’t think he has.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2008 9:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

are u serious

we want our star player who stays hurt because of hamstrings-stealing a base-6 runs up against a crappy team. i mean heck if we cant hold a 6 run lead against the braves then we have no business worrying about the playoffs. only I want sori doing is swinging that bat and making routine plays. stay healthy and in tune for the playoff run. nothing spectacular and no unwarranted chances.

from the mouth of Uecker:

"Am I the only one who’s glad it’s only a 4-game series? If was a 9-game series, I think the Cubs would win them all."

by cubsluver22 on Aug 13, 2008 10:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll say to you

what I’ll say to SouthernCub.

6 runs is not a huge lead. Look at what happened to the Red Sox. Look at what we did to Colorado. Stealing bases successfully builds his confidence. He needs to run. We go for EVERY scoring chance we can get. Wins are the ONLY statistic that counts.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2008 10:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

drew

what are you mlb credentials?? cause obviously you know way more than everyone here. your opinion should override everyone else’s!

yeahhhh right—-stop with your know it all snarky comments all the time. if you knew what you thought you know—you would be working for a major media outlet or in the mlb in some capacity.

if we cant hold a 6-run lead against the braves then we dont belong in the playoffs period. no way no how should our injury riddled star player being trying to steal a base in that sitiaution period.

from the mouth of Uecker:

"Am I the only one who’s glad it’s only a 4-game series? If was a 9-game series, I think the Cubs would win them all."

by cubsluver22 on Aug 14, 2008 10:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Last year, the Rockies

went deep into the playoffs.

This year, they had a 9-1 lead on us in the 9th inning, and we came back and won the game.

We should be able to beat any team on any given day — but the same holds for every other team! The 1926 Yankees lost games, there’s no reason we can’t lose games either. Six runs is NOT THAT MUCH. You always take an opportunity to score runs. Look at what happened last night — up 11-4, then suddenly, up 11-7. You think Bobby Howry is going to get released? Think again.

He’s not injury riddled.

I’m ignoring the rest of your post, as it’s irrelevant.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 15, 2008 8:26 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

obviously you just dont get it

I will make one more attempt to teach you morals of baseball.

you are right—you always take opportunities to score but you do it by station to station baseball and with the bat. You dont kick a bad team when you have them down big. If you knock em in thats fine.

There are things you just dont do up big— like stretch doubles into triples or steal bases or “gloat” on a HR etc.

Last person in the world we need stealing a base up 6 runs against a “AAA team” is bad hamstring sori.

Another example is last night after Kotsay got the cycle I read somewhere he was asked about his prior big game in which on his last AB, he needed a triple for the cycle and he had his chance to get it but “stopped” at 2nd base. They asked why didnt you go ahead and get the triple—his response was something along the line of so and so was on the mound(basically the pitcher sucked and was struggling)!! that drew is good baseball. Did Kotsay pass up an opportunity to score a run? NO!! But he exercised good baseball morals.

Karma has a way of rearing its ugly head and punishing players for things like this.

from the mouth of Uecker:

"Am I the only one who’s glad it’s only a 4-game series? If was a 9-game series, I think the Cubs would win them all."

by cubsluver22 on Aug 15, 2008 8:49 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

morals of baseball?

I think you and DeBard need to go bowling.

There’s only one statistic that matters: Wins. You do what you need to do to get those wins. A six run lead is not amazingly huge, not today.

Kotsay was a FRAKING idiot if he actually pulled up at second rather than going for a triple because he felt bad for the opposing pitcher. The Braves were LOSING TERRIBLY. You don’t go for third because you don’t want to get thrown out.

Therefore, I’m calling you out. You say you read it somewhere. I say you’re making it up. And if you’re not making it up, that makes Kotsay a BAD BASEBALL PLAYER.

That’s BAD baseball. You go for the WIN.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 15, 2008 12:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wanting him to steal bases in general is different...

wanting him to steal bases with a huge lead late in the game is an unnecessary risk.

by SouthernCub on Aug 14, 2008 10:16 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll say to you

what I said to cubsluver22.

6 runs is not a huge lead. Look at what happened to the Red Sox. Look at what we did to Colorado. Stealing bases successfully builds his confidence. He needs to run. We go for EVERY scoring chance we can get. Wins are the ONLY statistic that counts.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2008 10:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Just goes to show...

We can agree.

In today’s game, no lead is truly safe.

I didn’t see the game? They threw at Soriano’s head? Someone needs to go down hard for that.

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 13, 2008 6:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No they don't.

That kind of thinking is just stupid.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 13, 2008 6:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ha ha, you used his word.

Sorry folks, parks closed. Moose out front should have told you.

by N Oakley on Aug 14, 2008 8:49 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

we beat the Braves

in two straight games IN THE SAME DAY. Outscored them 18-2.

They went down hard, and we didn’t even have to throw the ball at anyone’s head.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2008 9:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This isn't the little leagues, Bobby

Boo hoo, Soriano hurt their feelings.

by dr stabbingworth on Aug 13, 2008 7:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Just because the Braves quit

Doesn’t mean we have to. I am so very tired of the “running up the score” nonsense.

The Braves have a surefire method of stopping Soriano from stealing. It’s called the catcher making a good throw and the 2nd baseman making a good tag.

If the Braves only want to play 6 innings and have mercy rules, I’m sure the Cubs would love the time off.

Ask no mercy, give no mercy.

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 14, 2008 10:49 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Cox was already tossed.

"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"

by HIGGY on Aug 14, 2008 8:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

don't really like that concept

when you’re up six, quit being aggressive. and if they come back and win, we’re asked why we pulled off the throttle. when atlanta is so far behind, they send in julian tavarez, we’ll quit running. that’s what i say.

by tim815 on Aug 14, 2008 8:02 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That I don't like

I can understand being annoyed at stealing with a 6 run lead. But it was a full count if I recall correctly. That’s more about staying out of the double play than it is trying to steal a base.

If they wanna brush him for posing, I understand. But for going on a 3-2 pitch, is that really kosher?

by WittyUserName on Aug 13, 2008 5:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I take back my good for Cox

if it was a 3-2 pitch. I was riding bike, after 6-1.
Sori had his hand broke against these knuckleheads.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Aug 13, 2008 5:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yea if I remember right

It was not only a full count, but also two outs…why wouldn’t he be running?

by rea5661 on Aug 13, 2008 6:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He wasn't stealing. It was a WP.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Aug 13, 2008 5:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Edmonds had a nice

look at his double that for some reason he thought was out. I am not defending Soriano, hell half the players don’t run out groundballs or foul balls. If Cox threw at Sori because of the steal attempt, good for Cox.
Looks like it was addressed, properly, not in the dugout so everyone can see it, Sori stood up and apologized. I take his word, and lets move on.
As long as the clubhouse is on board, thats all that matters to me. Lets worry about the second game of the doubleheader, and the Brewers maybe losing a game for once.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Aug 13, 2008 5:09 PM CDT   0 recs

Good for Cox

Bad for Beuno. NEVER (especially rookies making their debut and gettting hit HARD) should you throw at someones head. IMO—-thats bullshit and borderline criminal if its intentional.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 13, 2008 5:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ryan Theriot would never, ever do what Soriano did today

He can’t get that close to hitting a home run.

by Leon Durham on Aug 13, 2008 5:20 PM CDT   1 recs

WRONG

Just the other day I saw Theriot posing on a perfect bunt. He was thrown out by 65 feet——later intentionally walked in retaliation.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 13, 2008 5:22 PM CDT to parent up   1 recs

Calm down, BlueMike.

That was just Alfonso being Alfonso. It’s amazing how, after all this time, you still haven’t figured out that Soriano is the type of player with whom you take the good with the bad. (Or maybe you have figured it out and you just want something [else] to complain about. Yeah, that’s probably it.) He’s hit 262 home runs in his career thus far, and he knows when he got all of one.

Er, well, he usually knows. Sometimes he gets it wrong and ends up looking like an idiot. He apologized to Lou and my guess is, Alfonso is not going to make the same mistake again for a while. And if the Braves were retaliating for Soriano trying to steal with a six-run lead, well, that’s ridiculous. Six runs isn’t all that much. And it’s not Alfonso’s fault they suck petrified donkey balls this year.

OK, I feel better. Back to my vacation…

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2008 5:55 PM CDT   0 recs

agreed.

not a big deal, IMO.

by tal1286 on Aug 13, 2008 5:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

agree

but there’s something to be said for some forced humble pie ;-}

by Emelie on Aug 13, 2008 5:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

oh

I think he’ll be running out of the batters box for the rest of the season.

I have to wonder if he’s lost a little power. He’s posed on more than one off-the-wall shot that he thought was a sure HR.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2008 9:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

absolutely agree. also, you don’t throw at a guy when the last time you played against him, you broke his damn hand on a HBP. no matter what he does, posing, whatever. that’s just classless, and honestly, I’m not a violent person nor do I want to start a beanball-fest…but I hope Reed comes in spikes up tonight on a play at 2nd. They deserve it.

by PrincetonCubs on Aug 13, 2008 6:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Disagree

Just hit one of their guys in the butt and be done with it.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 13, 2008 6:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that works too

but then the pitcher gets ejected…as we all found out last year, umps do nothing about rough plays at 2nd during Cubs/Braves games…

by PrincetonCubs on Aug 13, 2008 6:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This is a different crew

and although I dont like Joe West he should know the Cubs are going to retaliate and the teams are warned and then its over.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 13, 2008 6:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

completely agree dat

we seem to be agreeing more and more lately…...let sori be himself, if you try to change him he isn’t going to be the allstar he is

leave him alone about the jump catches

leave him alone about not hustling

LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!!

by cubswynn on Aug 13, 2008 6:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 13, 2008 6:07 PM CDT   0 recs

Im confused

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"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 13, 2008 6:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think what MDBNIU is suggesting is

completely reactionary and short sighted. He hates Fonzi and he is letting his irrational hostility gets in the way of what is best for this club.

Thus even this bear thinks he’s ridiculous.

Lou sent his message today through the press and that should take care of it. Acting like Billy Martin will only hurt this team.

Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 13, 2008 6:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

this really frustrates me

we are playing so great this year, why do fans always have to find something to complain about…...WHY?

by cubswynn on Aug 13, 2008 6:29 PM CDT   0 recs

You have too many "..."

It’s three not six…check yourself!

:)

Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory

by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 13, 2008 6:36 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

For an ellipsis, yes.

For a “dot leader”, not necessarily.

by MN exile on Aug 13, 2008 11:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

haha

sorry when i post thoughts it’s just that, thoughts out-loud on a webpage…...hmm that seems weird…...but i, like sori, take your comments in stride and say i apologize…...........

by cubswynn on Aug 14, 2008 12:24 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I won't ..................................................

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Where’s the Ellipsis Police? Come get me coppers ..

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Aug 14, 2008 6:22 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Coppers?

What is this Dick Tracy? Who are you prune face?

by StevenABQ on Aug 14, 2008 12:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

they'll never take him alive, see?

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2008 1:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ack ack ack ack ack ack ack ack!

mobster? or…

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2008 2:36 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm never in favor of throwing at anyone.

What’s the point? Yeah, I know, to “send a message”. Send a message by playing winning baseball. And throwing at someone’s head is something that should never, ever be done.

That said, Soriano is maddening. I hate when he does stuff like that, and I thank him for apologizing and doing the right thing. This issue is done, and ought to be.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 13, 2008 6:39 PM CDT   0 recs

It's done with Sori..

but not with the Braves. Someone needs to wake up tommorrow with a baseball-sized bruise in the middle of their back.

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 13, 2008 6:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Stupid idea.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 13, 2008 6:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Why?

Are you in favor of the Cubs being used for target practice?

You stand up to a bully. You don’t cower and say, “Please don’t hurt me!”

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 13, 2008 7:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

We've had players hit

before and Lou does not retaliate. I guess Lou would rather show them by beating them. Why have your players get ejected when you need them to be on the field?

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 13, 2008 7:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs