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Olympics discussion thread

I didn't see one of these up yet, and hell, it only happens every four years.  Discuss what you want, but as always, try not to be rude to others for having differing opinions. 

Here are my opinions so far about these Olympics:

*Phelps has been absolutely amazing and dominant at all the events he's been in

*The Men's Olympic gymnastic team won bronze and their attitude was absolutely hilarious.  They reminded me of a group of frat guys.

*The Women's gymnastic team got silver while China got gold, it was well deserved based on performance, but I wish the US could have won to put cheating China in their place. 

*US men's basketball and softball have been absolutely dominant.  They play Greece today and look for the US to make a statement by dominating them.

*Handball is a badass sport.

 

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Really, I thought more of Eli Manning

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Aug 13, 2008 9:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If the Cubs were in the Olympics:

Who would be in what event?

My team (if this team had to play for the USA) -

Mike Fontenot – Gymnastics team – perfect height and agility

Soriano – Shot-put, discus, javelin – He can toss and stand and watch his work and not get yelled at for doing so. ;)

Reed and Jimmy – Long Jump – face forward of course they way they do in the field!

Go Cubbies and USA!!

by dlansfor on Aug 13, 2008 9:30 PM CDT   0 recs

Zambrano..

Greco Roman wrestling…old school, not this freestyle b.s.

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Aug 13, 2008 9:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice!

I thought also of boxing, he cleaned Barrett’s clock.

by dlansfor on Aug 13, 2008 9:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

everytime a fight is brought up...

i always end up thinking about how kyle farnsworth tackled that one Cincinnati guy. It was awesome.

by aznsensation on Aug 13, 2008 9:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

DeRosa

Decathalon

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by IowaCubs- on Aug 14, 2008 10:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Good call!

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 14, 2008 12:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If you want a badass sport...

Nothing against handball because it is a tough sport, but every four years I am in absolute awe of the water polo dudes. To go up and down the ‘court’, endure the high level of physical contact above and below the waterline, and all the while they’re swimming or treading water… simply amazing.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 13, 2008 9:54 PM CDT   0 recs

+1

I get winded just watching!

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 14, 2008 12:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

mine is synchro diving

Didnt know it was a sport before this last week. I am just in awe of it. Gymnastics always draws me in.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 13, 2008 9:58 PM CDT   0 recs

To each their own

I saw about two minutes of that and had couldnt take it seriously.

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 14, 2008 12:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Men's game against Greece

Greece is gonna try and bully their way to a win. The thing we have going for us is that guys like LeBron and DWade are hungry for revenge.

I cannot wait for the game.

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by nji232 on Aug 13, 2008 10:02 PM CDT   0 recs

What a blowout!

This team is so different from the last olympic team. LeBron has been dominant. Carmelo and Bosh and Wade have been real good. The youngster form a very focused team. Old guard guys, who are used to dominating without trying, need to go. Kidd is done, and Kobe is getting way too many minutes for a guy who just shoots, and not that well at that.

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 14, 2008 12:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Superior defense from Kobe...

and an assumption of heating up from outside.

Free Ronny Cedeno

by Kansas25 on Aug 16, 2008 1:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I've always been leery

One thing that gets me about some olympic sports is the judges scoring a performance. Like diving or gymnastics. How consistent is that type of scoring? I have no doubt they are qualified and know about the sport, but something has always made me nervous about that. I like the sports that have an obvious winner and loser. If Phelps out swims a guy, I can see it. If a tiny Chinese girl twirls through the air and a tiny American girl twirls through the air I can’t see what the difference is.

Can anyone clarify the way these events are scored? Possibly the history behind it?

by trefrog66 on Aug 14, 2008 12:15 AM CDT   0 recs

I know exactly what you mean

To me, these sports seem to be subjective to me as well. I’ve been following the Olympics and gymnastics caught my interest so I’ve looked up more information on it.

The way gymnastic scoring worked pre-2006 was based on a 10.0 scoring system. Every twistie thing they did was given a specific rating based on difficulty and there were special skills that all the gymnasts had to do. Basically before 2006, they were trying to get scores very close to 10 by all the judges and they were averaged for that gymnast’s score.

There was controversy at the 2004 olympics involving American Paul Hamm that led to a different scoring system. Now it is scored by using two scores combined. The first score is called the A score which is predetermined and based on how difficult the routine is. The second score is the B score which is based on execution. The B score has multiple judges and starts at a 10 and they deduct points for mistakes and bad form. Add those scores together and you get your score for the round. A score of 16 or better is usually very good.

The problem is that scoring for these events have always been very gracious to the hosting city or the home favorite. It seems to me that in these Olympics, mistakes that Chinese gymnast make aren’t deducted as much, but that’s just me.

I didn’t really know the story behind this until I looked it up because I didn’t pay attention to the Olympics before 2004, but the gymnast Kerry Strugg had one of the best Olympic moments I had ever seen. If you haven’t seen it, check out the youtube link, it almost brought a tear to my eye.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFn47a_Ny0Y

by aznsensation on Aug 14, 2008 1:15 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This video was horifically disturbing

This is what happened to that Hungarian weightlifter. He dislocated his arm, I turned away when I first saw it.

http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/k38RosXeURi3sgJkc8&related=1

by aznsensation on Aug 14, 2008 1:30 AM CDT   0 recs

Aaaahhh!

holy crap! Yuck

"That guy is a gamer." said Ron Santo of Reed Johnson on 07-25-08

by love the ivy on Aug 16, 2008 10:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wasn't too bad in regular speed...

but slo-mo…..yikes!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 16, 2008 10:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

US women gymasts were out of it before they got there

My wife knows the scoring exceptionally well; watching every move by every ‘woman’. Just as figure skating has its’ scoring woes, so does she believe gymnastics too has that issue, maybe worse; scandals aside. I don’t know much about it but what she’s told me that I can remember and keep up with her, the mistakes by Alicia on the beam and the other minor issues the other ladies had late in the competition (like stepping out during the floor exercise) would have had no impact on the final standings.

She thinks the US women didn’t stand a chance, even if they were perfect. Regardless though, I thought they and the men did well. I know I could never do 10% of that stuff they do, flying around the way they do and not only not get hurt but make it look graceful yet strong. Let’s hope Shawn can get the womens overall Gold. I know Horton struggled in the mens competition this morning.

Phelps is utterly amazing; what else can be said? It’s like he can turn it up a notch whenever he wants to; that is awesome. That 4×100 final where Lezak came back; against all teams none other than the French, was very exciting. Some of the other swimmers are doing well too. No way the US ladies were going to beat the Aussies in their 4×100 today. And they did well to hold onto the Bronze.

With all the crap going on there, from the fake fireworks to the lip-sync singing of a 9-year old to the under-age ‘women’ gymnasts, I have to wonder how these stories affect any of the athletes.

I follow the summer games fairly close (no where near as close as the winter games) but trying to keep the politics out of it and the fact the olympics are in a communist land, I think the US teams overall are doing well. And they haven’t even started track events yet.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Aug 14, 2008 7:15 AM CDT   1 recs

Which is why gymnastics is not a sport

It’s pro wrestling for chicks

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 14, 2008 9:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Huh?

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by IowaCubs- on Aug 14, 2008 10:19 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Outcomes are fixed...scoring is suspect

Pro wrestling. Might as well let the coaches throw chairs at the gymnasts.

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 14, 2008 10:21 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

are you kidding me?

1. Where do any of them come in contact with one another?
2. They do not actively participate in any staged outcome. It’s a scoring issue.
3. Have you ever tried to do any of those activities?

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Aug 14, 2008 12:36 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

1) They don’t. The pro wrestling crack was to say that gymnastics is about the story for many people, not the action. I obviously do not include your wife, who is in the know in a lot.

2) See above

3) That’s hardly the point. I probably couldn’t do a Frankensteiner without breaking my neck, but that doesn’t make pro wrestling legit.

99.999 percent of people couldn’t walk halfway across a balance beam without falling. They couldn’t hang for more than 10 seconds from the bottom of the still rings without dislocating their shoulders. That doesn’t mean we can’t be critical of the sport.

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 14, 2008 4:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

In time...

small people hate that which they cannot understand.

Free Ronny Cedeno

by Kansas25 on Aug 16, 2008 1:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Handball may be badass

But did anyone see the badmitton, WOW

If the world didn't suck we would all fall off.

by carolinacub on Aug 14, 2008 7:56 AM CDT   0 recs

i saw badminton too

i didn’t realize they play at that quick of a pace. Doubles was crazy/

by aznsensation on Aug 14, 2008 3:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

someone could easily lose an eye

never seen a a shuttlecock move that fast

"That guy is a gamer." said Ron Santo of Reed Johnson on 07-25-08

by love the ivy on Aug 16, 2008 10:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

TWSS!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 16, 2008 10:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yes

someone caught it! lol

"That guy is a gamer." said Ron Santo of Reed Johnson on 07-25-08

by love the ivy on Aug 16, 2008 10:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

approved LMAO

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 16, 2008 11:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

hey maddy!

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 16, 2008 11:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

whats up bump

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 12:11 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

watching the 400 hurdles now...

what’s up with the U.S. dude wearing shades while running? what you up to?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 17, 2008 12:15 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

not much just was reading some myspace blogs

are you just naturaly noctural? or do you work late?

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 12:17 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

is phelps on myspace too?

yep…always been a nite owl…you? or working?

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 17, 2008 12:18 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

no I clean homes...........

they won’t want me cleaning there homes while they were asleep LOL

what do you do for a living?

I have battled sleep probs most of my life.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 12:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

btw michael phelps parents are divorced .....

and he’s isnt close w/ his dad.

I just googled it.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 12:33 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ways to improve the Olympics --

http://www.cracked.com/article_16563_20-ideas-making-olympics-kick-way-more-ass.html

All I can say is — santoswood, PLEASE find this site and work your magic in the next Photoshop contest.

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 14, 2008 9:32 AM CDT   0 recs

Go All In and Enjoy The Ride.

by Jayo525 on Aug 14, 2008 9:35 AM CDT   1 recs

Perfect

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by tucsoncubsfan on Aug 14, 2008 10:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Love it!!!

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2008 11:08 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that was great.

Another way they can make the Olympics better is to add some drinking elements to some events and see who could handle the booze the best and still perform. Could you imagine a “16 year old” Chinese gymnast who weighs 60 pounds after downing a zima. It’s like watching a midget get drunk off taking shots from a thimble. :-)

by aznsensation on Aug 14, 2008 3:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You are assuming

the Chinese have a gymnast who is 16.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2008 3:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I put it in quotes

The Chinese government have a track record of trying to deceive for their advantage, no way these girls are over 16.

by aznsensation on Aug 14, 2008 3:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That is especially

noticable when you look at their 18 year old swimmers.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2008 4:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

eeeexcellent

"That guy is a gamer." said Ron Santo of Reed Johnson on 07-25-08

by love the ivy on Aug 16, 2008 10:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I never thought I'd be into the Olympics this year...

In fact, I poo-pooed them last week on this site, but I’ve got to admit that the swimming events and Shawn Johnson have me glued. Strange, but I can’t remember an Olympics that was this interesting. Maybe it’s just me getting older and more nostalgic, or maybe it’s the local angle with Johnson.

Anyone else feel this way?

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by IowaCubs- on Aug 14, 2008 10:07 AM CDT   0 recs

Tivo

I remember not being willing to stay up late to watch, but with Tivo thats not a problem. And I can fast forward thru all the blah blah blah.

Plus the US is doing so well. Phelps has been unbeatable. Gymnasts were real good. Great volleyball, softball, basketball. Been the funnest olympics in a while

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by californiachicagoan on Aug 14, 2008 12:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I am so nervous

for Shawn Johnson tonight. She is the World Champ on the beam and was fantastic on it Tues. night. She had one little miss step on her floor exercise otherwise she did well for her team. Tonight she’s on her own. I wish her the best.

Phelps is must see TV. I hope he gets the 8 gold medals he’s after.

Can’t wait for track and field to start too. I will be cheering hard for Lolo Jones to get a gold too.

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GO USA!!!!!!

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2008 11:14 AM CDT   0 recs

She's got a good chance to win it

That was a physical mistake. Alicia’s issues were mental. She seemed to be psyched out waiting so long before going on the beam. My wife swears that w/o the mistakes during the team competition late, they still would not have made up the 2.375 pts.

Don’t be surprised if Nastia makes a run at it too. What a way of redemption if both of the medal.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Aug 14, 2008 2:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I really wish the announcers would do more

To explain scoring to the rest of us. The lead guy is the biggest propagandist I’ve ever heard and is useless. The former gymnasts sound like they know what’s up, but they don’t explain it.

They should take some time, slow down a couple of routines, and really tell us what the judges see. For the average person, we just see the landing and any falls. Show us if the toes aren’t pointed, or the legs come apart, or the hands wobble, or whatever it is your wife and others in the know see.

If a gymnast did a quintuple back somersault-twist (I exaggerate) but hopped two inches on the landing, the average American would say, “Awp! She didn’t stick it! Give it to the American girl!”

As far as the waiting, hasn’t it come out that it was more NBC’s fault for wanting more commercials than anything the Chinese did?

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 14, 2008 4:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You must not be watching

the same games as me. The announcers do tell you what the ahtletes did wrong when they go over it in slow motion and tell you how much will be taken off for that error. As far as the delays it is not done by NBC. It’s the judges taking so long to score the athlete’s routines. While waiting for Alicia to do the beam NBC stayed right there.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 14, 2008 4:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not NBC...my mistake

But still TV, according to the USA gymnastics prez

Karolyi blames TV delay: Video killed the balance-beam star.

U.S. women’s gymnastics coordinator Martha Karolyi said a TV delay broke Alicia Sacramone’s concentration with the U.S. and China in a tight race for the gold medal.

Sacramone, the first gymnast in the U.S. beam rotation, twice approached the balance beam and was twice told to wait. After a delay that seemed “like five minutes” to her, she said, she finally was allowed to mount.

She failed, falling off, the beginning of a ruinous routine that opened the door for China to win gold. Why the delay? Did the Chinese try to psych her out?

No, TV needed time to adjust.

“There was a two-minute delay so [they] could get Alicia’s routine into the world feed,” USA Gymnastics president Steve Penny told the Philadelphia Daily News.

I don’t hear the announcers saying all this. Here is what I hear:

Trautwig: “The Americans will try to defeat the dirty competitors from the other dirty nations who somehow have the audacity to think they even belong on the same floor with our American princesses”

Daggett and Elfie: “Yeah! China SUCKS! USA!”

Daggett: “This is a great routine. Look at these flips. Look at the power. I don’t see what the judges can deduct here.”

Judges: 9.1

Elfie: “That’s a very strong score…”

(It is, but where did the nine-tenths go?)

Daggett: “Ooooh, there’s a mistake…” But he won’t say.
Elfie: “Yep, there it was…”
Trautwig: “You can’t make mistakes like that and expect to beat the Americans, who have lost their partners, cars, houses, dogs, pickup trucks and girlfriends, but are still in contention for the silver!”

And so on and so forth.

I kid, but I honestly don’t hear that. I hear a lot of “great routine” and then see 8.7s.

Pluto will always be a planet to me!

by DaBard on Aug 14, 2008 4:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

How 'bout that 1-2 finish?

Both girls were strong the whole time through the 4 rotations.

I think the announcers do give some insight on the going’s on but only the folks really versed in gymnastics (myself not included) will fully understand.

On the delay’s and all, I wouldn’t be surprised if the communist gov’t there has a hand in anything. They already have the world questioning them about the age of their athletes. Who knows what else can be going on there. I’m just glad to see our girls go out there and put up strong performances.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Aug 15, 2008 6:38 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I would have really

liked to see Shawn get the gold but I’m very happy they got the gold and silver. Shawn still has a chance to get a gold on Sunday and Tuesday. Very intense stuff last night.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 15, 2008 11:23 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I thought she got robbed on the beam...

…but what do I know really, right? Lukin looked like more of a champ last night and she deserved it, but it was hard to watch Shawn walk away with less than gold.

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by IowaCubs- on Aug 15, 2008 1:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree with you

on her beam scores. Hopefully she’ll bounce back Sunday and Tuesday and get two golds.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 15, 2008 5:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm most impressed

with the women who work on the beam. I couldn’t walk across that thing without falling off let alone all the acrobatics that they do on it. Simply amazing too me.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by tucsoncubsfan on Aug 14, 2008 11:52 AM CDT   0 recs

Handball?

Badass? I’m all for the ’everyone’s entitled to their own opinion,’ but as far as I’m concerned that “sport” is a joke. I laughed when I turned on the TV and there were two teams running around trying to throw a ball into a net guarded by someone in gym clothes. It’s like lacrosse without the, well cool parts. (Hitting, sticks, running, um… athleticism…)

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Aug 14, 2008 11:54 AM CDT   0 recs

The olympics bore the hell out of me!

I just can’t care about them when the Cubs are playing this type of baseball in a playoff run.

Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 14, 2008 12:31 PM CDT   0 recs

just noticed your quote

What a great skit
Call the US embassy!

"That guy is a gamer." said Ron Santo of Reed Johnson on 07-25-08

by love the ivy on Aug 16, 2008 10:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The ACTUAL answer to the question was...

Kwa Kee Sur Pee PEE Ku!

Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 17, 2008 10:49 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

bad-ass sports...

for me is in the winter games, 2 of them in fact.

1. any biathalon – cross country ski for miles, stop, slow your heart rate quickly enough to point a rifle and shoot targets accurately, then go back and ski your ass off a few more miles.

2. luge – tiny sled, huge curves, 90MPH. Only way that’s more bad-ass is if you go down head first. Talk about a rush…!

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Aug 14, 2008 12:39 PM CDT   0 recs

No argument here

just more interested in baseball.

Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 14, 2008 1:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's fine...

I get this all the time at work, especially the winter games where my interest is way higher than the summer games. Many others just don’t like it.

It’s funny that one of the guys here at work, not too many years older than me is still jaded by the ‘94 strike; still rips on baseball when we’re all at lunch. It makes me want to talk about baseball more. So what happens the other day? He starts ripping on the olympics. I told him to quit being such a grumpy old bastard. If he said he just wasn’t interested, I would have accepted it. But he chose to rip on it without any substance behind his statement of dislike.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Aug 15, 2008 6:42 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sounds like a pleasant co worker!

The olympics are great for many. Some is interesting too. I am with you though, the winter games are far more interesting to me as I snowboard and played hockey most of my life.

Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?

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