Chicago Cubs @ Florida Marlins GameThread, Aug 16, 2008 6:10 PM CDT

Pregame Thread: Cubs vs. Marlins, Saturday 8/16, 6:10 CT

by Al on Aug 16, 2008 3:30 PM CDT in Game Threads Comment 223 comments

Chicago Cubs @ Florida Marlins

Next Game

Saturday, Aug 16, 2008, 6:10 PM CDT
Dolphin Stadium

Partly cloudy with a 40-percent chance of rain. Winds blowing in from center field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 85.

Complete Coverage >

In this space, where normally you'd see some sort of comment from me about tonight's game or some other baseball-related note, I'm going to shamelessly plug my friend Will Byington's new book, "We Are Cubs Fans", which contains some of Will's great photography and also reproductions of hand-written notes Will got people to write, talking about what it means to them to be a Cubs fan.

Will's going to be on the ABC-7 Sunday Morning News tomorrow about 8:15 am -- tune in if you're in the Chicago area.

Now, on to tonight's game!

Today's Starting Pitchers


S. Marshall Cubs	vs.	A. Sanchez Marlins


2-2	W-L	1-2
3.55	ERA	4.08
33	SO	14
10	BB	7
7	HR	2
vs. Fla	--	vs. Cubs

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2008 - Sean Marshall	2-2	23	3	0	0	1	1	38.0	33	15	15	7	10	33	3.55	1.13

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2008 - Anibal Sanchez	1-2	3	3	0	0	0	0	17.2	17	9	8	2	7	14	4.08	1.36

It's hard to know what to expect from this pitching matchup. Sanchez missed more than a year after shoulder surgery and has made just three starts since returning. He had a good outing five days ago vs. St. Louis, but the Cardinals won anyway. He has never faced the Cubs. LH batters hit .400 vs. Sanchez, so Lou's going to start four of them tonight, including giving Derrek Lee the day off and starting Daryle Ward at 1B.

Sean Marshall has done a very good job in relief this season -- he's 1-0, 3.10 in 20 relief innings. In three starts he's 1-2, 4.08. He got hit pretty hard when he started two years ago in Miami, but a lot of those Marlins aren't on the team any more. Dan Uggla has gone 4-for-11 with two doubles vs. Sean; no other current Marlin has more than 8 career AB against him.

Today's game is on WGN and the Sunshine Network -- and it's after 6 pm CT, so EI will cover it. Also see the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday

Baseball-reference.com game preview

Once again, a reminder that you can find the overflow comment threads, including the first pitch thread, on the right sidebar of both the front page and any interior page in the box headed "RECENT STORIES IN GAME THREADS". Today's first pitch thread posts at 6 pm CT, and the overflow comment threads will post at 7 pm, 8 pm and 8:45 pm CT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Man I must be bored!

by Itchy on Aug 16, 2008 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

a SECOND too slow

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 16, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he's first on my screen

by cubsonWGN4ever on Aug 16, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

nobody here?

by BradB311 on Aug 16, 2008 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm here

And a huge come from behind victory last night, hopefully knocking the Marlins down a peg or two.

Let’s make it two in a row in Miami and, what, 9 road victories in a row?

by DWChaney on Aug 16, 2008 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yup it would be nine

A series win in Miami would be huge. we always struggle so bad there.

by BradB311 on Aug 16, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Last night was win #9 in a row on the road

tonight would be #10

by cubsonWGN4ever on Aug 16, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

SANCHEZ

LIGHT EM UP

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 16, 2008 3:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

657th!!!!!

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 16, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .296 21 HR 57 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Have I missed something?

Why is Marshall starting? By my count, our 5 starters include Z, Dempster, LIlly, Harden, and Marquis.

by MissouriKev on Aug 16, 2008 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The rain on Tuesday and Dempster being pushed back

….due to personal issues.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 16, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Big game for road record....Cubs could come home at or above .500

This is a big deal, the Cubs are first in runs scored in the NL, second in runs allowed; first in home record and if they can erase this one weakness it will substantiate them as a WS contender. (They are tied with wins and 2 down in the loss column to LAA for best record.)

As for Ward, like Fukudome starting out with a dink for 2 runs in Atlanta he is now beginning to hit, Ward’s HR is a big confidence boost. Hitting is so psychological and if he does in fact turn it around there are few weaknesses on this club.

Big ball game…..approaching 29 games over .500 and now 6 up in the loss column to the chaser’s, who are playing a hot LAD team.

Hope Marshall goes 5 and then Marquis goes 2 with the lead.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Aug 16, 2008 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Speaking of confidence boosts

Hitting the other teams closer is to me the biggest boost a team can get in the first game of a series. IMHO anyway.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Cubs Forever" on WGN Right Now

Also I am happy to report that ’GN changed their logo and got rid of the creepy mascara eyes. Paranoids like myself can relax!

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 16, 2008 4:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

so glad

the game is on wgn!! i think we still have the creepy mascara eyes for wgn’s logo here in new orleans

by nolacubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm here ( because the game has not started)

I miss not being able to post during games due to no functioning home computer
( a long story) but I love coming in and reading the game threads after the fact. It was
a “blast” to go through the posts about the “blast” last night. I literally try to imagine what
creative image Santoswoodenleg might be posting while I am home watching the game.

Perhaps when I scalp one of my World Series tickets ( not MINE the OTHER one) I will break down and get a computer though it is not really a money issue anyway.

I was of course broken hearted but not surprised that Maddux lost ONE TO NOTHING LAST NIGHT thanks to the wretched Padres offense but I can’t think of anyone I would rather outpitch him than Jaime Moyer. Raise your hands if you are old enough to remember their 1986 rookie season with the Cubs.

Home soon to watch tonight’s game. I trust a photo on Milton spearing the Magic Marlin
will be there tomorrow when I can go through the game thread.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 16, 2008 4:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

milton?

by nolacubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

whats lineup tonight? my guess...

soriano lf
fukudome rf
ward 1b
soto c
edmonds cf
derosa 3b
fontenot 2b
theriot ss
marshall

I say give ramirez another day and see if he can play tomorrows day game

by cubs2410 on Aug 16, 2008 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I love all the old footage of Ernie Banks on the

60 year special on WGN.

I wish I were old enough to have seen Ernie play.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

How long is the special?

I bought the “Cubs Forever” book, which is fantastic, and it includes a 40 minute DVD, though I seem to remember the TV showing to be 2 hours. Does anyone who has seen both know what the difference is between the DVD and the TV?

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The special is 2 hours long

I haven’t had a chance to get the book yet.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ok, thanks

The book is amazing, so be sure to pick one up sometime!

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've been meaning to

but haven’t had a chance to go to the bookstore.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Id love to pick you up sometime :)

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .296 21 HR 57 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I believe the book DVD only has the interviews

They could not include any game broadcast footage due to MLB licensing issues.

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Aug 16, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ah, ok

so the TV one has game footage? The DVD is just interviews

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah lots of game moments

w/ great calls from Brickhouse & Harry. Its really a blast.

I think this is the 3rd time I’ve watched it. And I still get goosebumps.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice!

I’m to young to have watched Brickhouse, and I don’t remember much of Harry, so I’ll have to catch it on the tube sometime, or get a copy from someone

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm too young to remember much of Harry as well

but Jack is so iconic. He’s incredible.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's what I've heard

1998 is the first TV/Radio stuff that I remember, which sadly was to late for both of them.

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

how old are you?

i’m 23. i remember pieces of the early 90s b/c my grandad and i listened to every game on the radio together. but by the time i was old enough to really appreciate it, harry was gone.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm 20,

The first game I remember was a Cubs-Sox game at Wrigley in 1997, which was rained out(I still wear the Cubs poncho I bought), and the earliest TV game I remember was Kerry Wood’s 20 strikeout game in 98, I got home from school and I watched the last 2 innings, as my dad told me he was doing something special.

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

thats pretty cool though

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I haven't seen either

But this is the gist of what I learned when it first came out, and I contacted WGN and the book publisher to find out what was included on the book DVD.

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Aug 16, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If anyone can share this somehow

I’ll pay for any costs like postage, etc.

I don’t suppose a 2-hour video could be uploaded…..

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Aug 16, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm surprised WGN hasn't sold a DVD version of it

I’d buy it. It’d be a great snowy offseason day thing to watch.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, me too

but they told me it’s all Bud Selig’s fault (as usual)

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Aug 16, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Isn't everything his fault?

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So it seems

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Aug 16, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thats lame

but not really surprising… letting fans enjoy the game obviously isn’t something Selig is about.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wasn't aware of any resrictions,

but yeah, it isn’t surprising. The owners don’t seem to care either, which is sad. Soon, everything will be like the No Fun League. Until I become commissioner…

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have it on DVD from a previous showing

though it was dubbed from a tape. If I can figure out how to make a copy, I can copy it for you.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Aug 16, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really?

I’d be eternally grateful if you could do that without going to too much trouble. Like I said, I’ll cover any costs!

I won’t be on here much tonight/tomorrow, but I’ll check back when I can.

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Aug 16, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Email me (look in my profile).

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Aug 16, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

DeRoMyHeroMyHero

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Aug 16, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can I ask for one as well?

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Aug 16, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

thank you!

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have rarely if ever seen such zest for the game.

One of the truly wonderful things about Ernie Banks was that he always seemed to be truly enjoying himself playing baseball. In sports, movies, TV, music, wherever, there are people who are enjoying what they do and those who don’t – and they are often easy to tell apart.

Saw #14 hit some HR’s, play first, and generally light up Wrigley decades before the lights went in, if ya get the drift…

by MN exile on Aug 16, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey guys...

…gonna be away for most of the game tonight, but I just wanted to show off my brand-spankin’ new PROJECT 3000 shirt and my two dogs. On the left is Madison, a 2.5 year old beagle with a mean howl and a love for everyone and thing, and on the right is my girlfriends 5 month old Shiz Tsu, Gus (Gus Gus from Cinderella). Have a good game to all and GO CUBS GO!

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 16, 2008 4:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

LOL

I love beagles. :-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm sold on beagles for life.

They love children young and old (key for this special education teacher), love all other dogs, and I think their howl is funny as hell.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 16, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love hounds in general. The bark/howls are fabulous.

but my heart belongs to my golden retrievers. They’re so silly. :-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The only beagle we've ever owned...

was the stupidest animal I’ve ever seen. No offense to your or your dogs….but I won’t ever own another one.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wurd.

He’s the smartest dog I’ve owned thus far, which is numero tres. Maybe it has to do with the owner, SWL?

SNAP.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 16, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's it smartass...I'm adding you to THE LIST!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So that's what MDBNIU looks like?

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 16, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I LOLed at this Chad

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 16, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The shirt looks great

on you and the dogs are cute. We will miss you tonight.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 16, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's a real nice shirt, I am glad I got one for me and dad!

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 16, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for buying the shirts!

Nice pic!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 16, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Awe

love the dogs! Can’t wait to wear my shirt in Sept when I finally get to a Cubs game. They are sharp shirts! Oh and surprisingly, you look kind of like what I would think you might look like just from discussion and no scientific way at all, lol

"That guy is a gamer." said Ron Santo of Reed Johnson on 07-25-08

by love the ivy on Aug 16, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think the shirts are real nice, actually, good quality

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 16, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope we come

out and get a large lead for Sean. Good luck tonight Sean!!!!

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 16, 2008 4:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

yay for lanky lefty sean!!

Looking at Sanchez’s splits.. he’s the type of pitcher we should light up…. but thats why they play the game I guess.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Al

Hanley Ramirez has 10 AB against him, and Josh Willingham has 9. Minor nitpick.

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

my list says hanley has 8 ABs

where are you looking??

Theres a chart at the bottom here.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That list is only for 03-07.

They have at-bats against Marshall in ’08.

Correct numbers are here:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/previews/2008/FLO200808160.shtml

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ah okay.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I got those numbers from ESPN.com's page.

Guess they hadn’t updated it.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 16, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

look

at that chest hair on young steve stone!

by nolacubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Line ups out

Soriano
Theriot
Edmonds
Ward
Fontenot
Dome
Derosa
Blanco
Marshall

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Anyone know the latest on Aramis?

When is hegoing to be back?

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .296 21 HR 57 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think he'll be fine.

No need to rush him back, he could use a day off.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he can pitch hit right now

and probably play… but we are playing well so lets give him a few days and have him ready for tuesday….. we’ll probably see cedeno at 3rd tomorrow

by cubs2410 on Aug 16, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, that makes sense with the day off on Monday.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 16, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

interesting hitting the four lefties all in a row

by cubs2410 on Aug 16, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lefties are hitting .400

off of Sanchez.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

can you say sunday lineup?

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

we're missing Lee and Ramirez, so you take Soto out too? Don't get that.

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

on the bright side

lots of great options off the bench should we get to that situation.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

True. just hope we have enough offense to say competitive. Hopefully Marsh can pitch well

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sanchez is the type of pitcher would should grind down

and light up.

I just hope Lanky Lefty can be efficent w/ his pitch count.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I do.

That way Soto plays tomorrow. He needs a day off anyway.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 16, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wouldn't it make more sense to give Soto the day off when Lee or Ramirez is in the lineup?

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not necessarily...

… you give the guy the day off when he’s ready for a day off. I see what you’re saying, but I trust in this team to get things done.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 16, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just seems harder to get things done missing 3 of your best 4 offensive players.

Hopefully it works out though.

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

3 of our 4 BEST OPS hitters are IN

.976 Edmonds
.902 Soriano
.892 Ramirez
.891 Fontenot

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 16, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ramirez isn't in, and Fontenot's OPS is in severely limited time.

Also, Edmonds’ OPS is .821, you can’t just cherry pick part of our season.

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

Especially with the Day off Monday.

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .296 21 HR 57 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 4:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Keep hauling the in the keepers Cubbies!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

That truly is

the finest use of a Photoshop filter ever. By far.

by Craig in South Bend on Aug 16, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think one of Milton holding up a WS trophy will be FAR

more impressive :)

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

True

but lets concentrate on grilling the marlins first. :-P

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Patience.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wtf is that?

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Grasshopper

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

really?

did it get into Barry’s medicine cabinet? Whoa.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

grasshopper

"That guy is a gamer." said Ron Santo of Reed Johnson on 07-25-08

by love the ivy on Aug 16, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

City Folk....LOL.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

actually born and raised in the sticks

i’ve just never seen a grasshopper before.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

trippy.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

they're all over our house right now... and we live in the northern suburbs

I really hate having to smash them, they’re quite juicy.

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Buy an Australian Bearded Dragon....

Grasshoppers are like crack for them.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes let me just run out an purchase said item right now

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Any major pet store will have them in stock...

they’re actually quite easy to have as pets….they grow up thinking they’re a dog. You can take them for walks, and they’ll come when you call them. Kinda funny to see the reaction from people when my son is out walking his.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

they're really cool.

actually a lot of fun.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well, since im leaving for school on thursday, doubt I'll have time for that.

Thanks for the suggestion though.

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Get one for your dorm room....

the chicks will dig it.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hah, okay, I'll see how that goes over with my roommates.

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hang that thing up in the Art Institute!

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 16, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Al

You’ve disappointed me sir, I was awaiting a Movie Review on the Dark Knight…WHATSUPWITHDAT?!

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 4:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Will's Book --

Al -
Great to hear about Will’s appearance on ABC. Just wish I could see it.
My daughter and Will graduated from high school together in 1996. They have remained friends over the years. When my wife and I were back in the Chicago area in late June and early July, we had a chance to visit with Will. He came to our daughter’s birthday party. She lives in Virginia now and was back to attend a wedding of a high school classmate. Will came to the birthday party and gave Laura a copy of his book.
Several weeks prior to publishing the book, my daughter had contacted me and told me about Will’s book. Will knew that I was a lifelong Cubs fan and asked Laura if I would like to contribute my comments. I did and they are in the back of the book.
After the Cubs/Giants game on July 12, my son and I met Will outside of Wrigley where he was “hawking” his book to passersby. I made sure to get a copy before I returned to Florida.
I highly recommend the book to every Cubs fan who reads and contributes to BCB. There are a lot of great comments, stories, and photos. Will has captured some great faces - a lot of them very recognizable. I really enjoyed the photo and comments from the unforgetable “Bleacher Preacher.”
My son recently told me about a book signing that Will was having at Harry Caray’s in Wrigleyville. I do not know if it is coming up or is over.
But again — Cubs fans — pick up this book. It is worth every penny.

by ceegeewow on Aug 16, 2008 4:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That weird...

~~it’s like you didnt really mean~~ any of what you just said.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmmm.

Can’t imagine why you crossed all that out. Maybe you used the wrong button.

The book signing was last night. He’ll be on ABC-7 tomorrow morning. Glad you’re in the book.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 16, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Hawk

He crushed that one. I barely remember the cubs of the Hawks days, thats why I love shows like this.

by Wad on Aug 16, 2008 4:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That play Billy Williams made to save Pappas no hitter

a webgem for the ages.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Williams' catch saved Holtzman's no-hitter, not Pappas'

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 16, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Was it?

My bad. They weren’t very clear on the special… at least audibly. They might’ve had something up on the screen to differentiate, but I didn’t see it.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We're talking different plays

I was talking about the one when the CF fell down and Williams made a great running catch to save the no hitter for Pappas.

Although the one where Williams tracked the ball into the well to save Holtzman’s was fantastic as well.

I always underrate Williams. I forget how great he is.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, I get it now.

Had forgotten about the 2nd play (the one in Pappas’).

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 17, 2008 5:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Any Home Run Predictions?

Im gonna say Jimmy Edmonds

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 5:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Daryle Ward.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1 and a Lil Wonder Hampster too

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 16, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

gotta go w/ Little Babe

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

theriot

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

seriously? i mean seriously?

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well. he's DUE

and if he doesn’t its not gonna be ME who jinxed him. but if he does it, than i’m a friggin’ genius.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not to mention pretty cute too

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

aww. galvan

aren’t you sweet. :-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

:) I mean it :)

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

:-)

Uh huh.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well...

that was a touching hallmark moment if I ever saw one.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lmao

by Blaze22 on Aug 16, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought so

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've never been able to take a compliment

character flaw.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well thats okay

Still doesnt change i mean what i said…heh

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's very noble of you to be able to admit that.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lmao

noble. now thats a new one.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

just seeing if you could take that one, since I figured you haven't gotten that one before.

Are you taking it?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

TWSS

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Aww, a little eharmony.com moment right here on BCB.

And they say this place is just for Cubs talk…

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dont see whats all "eharmony.com" about

Complimenting a beautiful woman…

I mean aren’t guys supposed to do that?

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think it's the internet aspect of it

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think it's sweet

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 16, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

now theres a loaded question

are you really giving it? b/c thats how i’ll decide on how to take it.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ahem....changing the subject...

so….did you see they found a dead bigfoot?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lmao

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah and he had a Brewers jersey on

Go figure

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

is that why it failed the DNA test?

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

awesome

i think i out euphemismed SWL. Go me!!

Really? A dead bigfoot?

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Id like to see SWL

come up with pictures of the Dead Bigfoot…

On second thought…. No i dont

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here's the actual pic

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well that's half of it anyway

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

WOW! It's so......partial!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

haha

thats awesome.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No...you out "double entendred" me...

NOBODY out euphemisms me…NOBODY.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ah my bad.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

HA!

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Marshall

since we are being optimistic

by Wad on Aug 16, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have a feeling someone is having a multihome run game

maybe Soriano…

by Blaze22 on Aug 16, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can live with that

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

BREAKING NEWS:

Tom Glavine to have possible Career ending surgery

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 5:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

torn flexor tendon

Sad to see.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he has had a great career. HOF for sure

by Blaze22 on Aug 16, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, it is.

He should have retired after last year.

That means his last TWO starts were against the Cubs.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 16, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Both losses too

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Think Maddux & Smoltz'll hang 'em up this year too?

It’d be fitting for them to all go in together.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It is looking that way.

by Blaze22 on Aug 16, 2008 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Smoltz was on Chicago radio this past week

he’s thinking about trying to come back.

Never count him out, I guess.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Glavine might try to come back

as well, unless he needs Tommy John surgery. I heard this on ESPN Radio 30 min ago

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't bet on Maddux retiring

As usual all he says he will go over it with his family at the end of the season. He is having a good year despite pathetic lack of run support. Maddux does not care if he is “back end” of the rotation starter as long as he can play and contribute. As I have posted more than a few times before his most telling comment on retirement was when he was asked in 06 and said " I don’t want to embarrass myself by any means but I would rather pitch bad than not pitch at all" Not nearly as scary as it sounds. Basically the guy LOVES to pitch, he also loves to hit, run the bases,shag balls , take batting practice ( he hit one in the stands before last nights game) sit on the bench with other pitchers and “call the game” , do childish pranks in the clubhouse etc.

The ONLY reason he retires is that his kids are getting older and he clearly would like to spend more time with them. I am hoping his wife and kids allow him to come out and play AT least one more season.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 16, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love Frank Thomas.

He’s the one White Sox that I really do think is just awesome. BTW, E-Patt is pinch running for him right now.

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

and an easy SB for patterson

He should’ve taught Theriot how to steal before he left.

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Interesting stat:

they call it the TOOTBLAN, and it’s counts the number of times a baserunner is thrown out due to his own stupidity. Here’s a link:

http://www.wrigleyville23.com/2008/08/tootblans-finally-catalogued-for.html

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Are Cedeno, Alou and Theriot 1-2-3 on that leaderboard?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not all "caught stealing"s are "stupid.

Some of the “strike out / throw out” are the batter’s (or manager’s) fault. Having said that, I agree that Theriot is not a very good baserunner. Why? Some possibilities:

1. Riot is fast, but he is not fast like Michael Bourn. Yet he has NO power, so he has to have “speed” (or at least convince his manager he has speed) to stay in the ML. That leads him to take more chances than a guy like DeRo (who might be just as fast scoring from first on a double).

2. Lou has given him enough rope with which to hang himself three times. Last year, Michael Barrett was thrown out trying to go to third on a grounder to SS. Lou hung him out to dry publicly with one of his famous tirades. Riot had made the same twice in the previous ten days. Lou’s response? “He was a bit overaggressive.” No benching or public lynching. The result? He’s done it two or three times this year. The double standard is pretty obvious. As long as Riot knows he will get away with those baserunning blunders, he will take wild chances.

3. I’m not sure who the baserunning coach even is. DeJesus? Sinatro? Dernier isn’t with the team full-time. Riot could use some help in learning how to read pickoff moves.

4. Stealing bases isn’t easy with DLee at the plate. Lee is up there to drive in runs, not to take pitches to give Riot a chance to read moves. So sometimes Riot might run without being truly prepared.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Aug 16, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lee sees plenty of pitches.

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 16, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry I missed last night's game...

I was getting score updates on my phone every few minutes, and it was hard to contain myself when I saw that DeRo had gone yard. And I was stunned when I saw 6-5 Cubs in the bottom of the 9th after seeing 5-3 most of the evening. Didn’t find out until later that Ward was the hero. Great for him! He’s got the toughest role on the team.

I will be in and out of the game thread tonight.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Aug 16, 2008 5:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Good evening all...

Due to a combination of work and travel, I’ve not watched a Cubs’ game in almost two weeks (was ready to watch the rain out game in Atlanta and was REALLY disappointed). Nonetheless, I’m here for the next two games (please don’t let tonight get rained out), and I’m ready to rock and roll

Go Cubs!

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Aug 16, 2008 5:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

So...how long have you been a Cub fan?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

51 years, and that is no joke.

I sometimes say Jack Brickhouse raised me, because I certainly heard more from him than I ever did from my old man.

I have Ernie Bank’s autograph framed and on the wall in my basement. Got it when I was 12 years old outside Wrigley.

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Aug 16, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well...I'll miss tonights game....will be at a friends pool party for his daughter's "going away to college" send-off.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

have fun swl.

:-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're not the boss of me.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that time it wasn't an order

more of a suggestion.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did you leave any pix for the game thread?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Aug 16, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Leave any? Where?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OT: Trump Tower nearing completion

The 92 Story tower in Downtown Chicago will have a significant milestone today, The final major concrete pour will take place today.

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 5:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

we're not on the corner of clark & addison

we’re on the corner of hopes and dreams. CLASSIC.
and i miss andre dawson!!!

by nolacubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I love how everyone who's a real fan

talks about WHEN it happens.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Then the hundreds of people on this site must be

Real fans….

Clearly

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

geeze I don't... I'm still to nervous for that. I sure hope to god that it does happen.

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What? The Cubs getting TO the World Series? Or the Cubs WINNING the World Series?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I used to think it would be getting to the Series.

This year, I want to win it all!!!!

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Aug 16, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This year? You didn't want them to win in......say...1991....or 2005?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've got to tell you. In past years, I'd have been content just to get to the Series.

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Aug 16, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But surely you would have wanted them to win it.

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Absolutely.

But I’ve been like the manager at the end of “The Natural”. Just once, just once, let me see the Cubs in the Series.

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Aug 16, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Either. I'll love if it happens, but I guess I'm superstitious in that I

won’t say it will happen.

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

World Series....Cubs...Win...Playoffs....

goatblackcatdurhamslegsgarveywillclarkatlantabartman!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lol, I don't believe in curses or anything like that.

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well, then why don't you believe in when?

you keep using IF.

Which is to me defeatist.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+100

Exactly,

STOP with the IF’s and start using the when’s……

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There's nothing wrong with saying if, it doesn't make you any less of a fan.

There have been plenty of fans of any team over the years that have been sure their team would make it, and been proven wrong. I want the Cubs to make it, and win it, more than anything, but nobody can be sure that they will.

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Defeatist would be to say they won't make it.

I’m optimistic that they can, but I’m not sure that they will. Make sense?

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No.

but I’m not going to argue it.

I just hate the “if”.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So it only makes sense to be 100% sure that they will, without a doubt,

make the world series? Whatever you say.

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes.

Someday. it WILL happen. I have no doubt that it WILL, to me its always a matter of when.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, I agree that someday it will.

I thought you were saying this year, for certain. Nevermind then.

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No.

I do think that this could be a good year (and frankly the sooner the better lol) but no. I just believe in “when”.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We're in agreement then.

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm here for the duration, whether it happens or not.

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on Aug 16, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

As am I. I'm just not ready to proclaim that this is the year.

by sackings108 on Aug 16, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've been a Cubs fan since 1953.

I was with my mom in a five and dime store (if some of you remember them). There were two piles of baseball caps—Cubs & Sox. She asked me if I wanted a blue or black one. I said blue and have stuck with it ever since. Actually,it was tough being Cubs fan in the ’50s. Although we lived on the north side, most of my friends were Sox fans. One could hardly blame them. Sox were the much better team.

If I recall correctly, 1957 was when the Cubs had those weird hats with pinstripes.

"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI

by sweetswinger on Aug 16, 2008 6:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Correct on the '57 caps.

As seen here:

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 17, 2008 5:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good to know

Some of my memories check out! I think the attitude was—and this reflected P.K. Wrigley’s way of doing business—if pinstripes worked for the Yankees, maybe they’d work for the Cubs. In any case, an easier solution than, say, upgrading the team’s farm system.

"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI

by sweetswinger on Aug 18, 2008 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs