Chicago Cubs @ Florida Marlins GameThread, Aug 16, 2008 6:10 PM CDT

Pregame Thread: Cubs vs. Marlins, Saturday 8/16, 6:10 CT

by Al on Aug 16, 2008 3:30 PM CDT in Game Threads

Chicago Cubs @ Florida Marlins

Next Game

Saturday, Aug 16, 2008, 6:10 PM CDT
Dolphin Stadium

Partly cloudy with a 40-percent chance of rain. Winds blowing in from center field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 85.

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In this space, where normally you'd see some sort of comment from me about tonight's game or some other baseball-related note, I'm going to shamelessly plug my friend Will Byington's new book, "We Are Cubs Fans", which contains some of Will's great photography and also reproductions of hand-written notes Will got people to write, talking about what it means to them to be a Cubs fan.

Will's going to be on the ABC-7 Sunday Morning News tomorrow about 8:15 am -- tune in if you're in the Chicago area.

Now, on to tonight's game!

Today's Starting Pitchers


S. Marshall Cubs	vs.	A. Sanchez Marlins


2-2	W-L	1-2
3.55	ERA	4.08
33	SO	14
10	BB	7
7	HR	2
vs. Fla	--	vs. Cubs

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2008 - Sean Marshall	2-2	23	3	0	0	1	1	38.0	33	15	15	7	10	33	3.55	1.13

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2008 - Anibal Sanchez	1-2	3	3	0	0	0	0	17.2	17	9	8	2	7	14	4.08	1.36

It's hard to know what to expect from this pitching matchup. Sanchez missed more than a year after shoulder surgery and has made just three starts since returning. He had a good outing five days ago vs. St. Louis, but the Cardinals won anyway. He has never faced the Cubs. LH batters hit .400 vs. Sanchez, so Lou's going to start four of them tonight, including giving Derrek Lee the day off and starting Daryle Ward at 1B.

Sean Marshall has done a very good job in relief this season -- he's 1-0, 3.10 in 20 relief innings. In three starts he's 1-2, 4.08. He got hit pretty hard when he started two years ago in Miami, but a lot of those Marlins aren't on the team any more. Dan Uggla has gone 4-for-11 with two doubles vs. Sean; no other current Marlin has more than 8 career AB against him.

Today's game is on WGN and the Sunshine Network -- and it's after 6 pm CT, so EI will cover it. Also see the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday

Baseball-reference.com game preview

Once again, a reminder that you can find the overflow comment threads, including the first pitch thread, on the right sidebar of both the front page and any interior page in the box headed "RECENT STORIES IN GAME THREADS". Today's first pitch thread posts at 6 pm CT, and the overflow comment threads will post at 7 pm, 8 pm and 8:45 pm CT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Man I must be bored!

by Itchy on Aug 16, 2008 3:38 PM CDT 0 recs

a SECOND too slow

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 16, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up 0 recs

he's first on my screen

by cubsonWGN4ever on Aug 16, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up 0 recs

nobody here?

by BradB311 on Aug 16, 2008 3:48 PM CDT 0 recs

I'm here

And a huge come from behind victory last night, hopefully knocking the Marlins down a peg or two.

Let’s make it two in a row in Miami and, what, 9 road victories in a row?

by DWChaney on Aug 16, 2008 3:52 PM CDT 0 recs

Yup it would be nine

A series win in Miami would be huge. we always struggle so bad there.

by BradB311 on Aug 16, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up 0 recs

Last night was win #9 in a row on the road

tonight would be #10

by cubsonWGN4ever on Aug 16, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up 0 recs

SANCHEZ

LIGHT EM UP

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 16, 2008 3:54 PM CDT 0 recs

657th!!!!!

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 16, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up 0 recs

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .296 21 HR 57 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up 0 recs

Have I missed something?

Why is Marshall starting? By my count, our 5 starters include Z, Dempster, LIlly, Harden, and Marquis.

by MissouriKev on Aug 16, 2008 3:55 PM CDT 0 recs

The rain on Tuesday and Dempster being pushed back

….due to personal issues.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Aug 16, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up 0 recs

Big game for road record....Cubs could come home at or above .500

This is a big deal, the Cubs are first in runs scored in the NL, second in runs allowed; first in home record and if they can erase this one weakness it will substantiate them as a WS contender. (They are tied with wins and 2 down in the loss column to LAA for best record.)

As for Ward, like Fukudome starting out with a dink for 2 runs in Atlanta he is now beginning to hit, Ward’s HR is a big confidence boost. Hitting is so psychological and if he does in fact turn it around there are few weaknesses on this club.

Big ball game…..approaching 29 games over .500 and now 6 up in the loss column to the chaser’s, who are playing a hot LAD team.

Hope Marshall goes 5 and then Marquis goes 2 with the lead.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Aug 16, 2008 4:07 PM CDT 0 recs

Speaking of confidence boosts

Hitting the other teams closer is to me the biggest boost a team can get in the first game of a series. IMHO anyway.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up 0 recs

"Cubs Forever" on WGN Right Now

Also I am happy to report that ’GN changed their logo and got rid of the creepy mascara eyes. Paranoids like myself can relax!

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 16, 2008 4:12 PM CDT 0 recs

so glad

the game is on wgn!! i think we still have the creepy mascara eyes for wgn’s logo here in new orleans

by nolacubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:14 PM CDT 0 recs

I'm here ( because the game has not started)

I miss not being able to post during games due to no functioning home computer
( a long story) but I love coming in and reading the game threads after the fact. It was
a “blast” to go through the posts about the “blast” last night. I literally try to imagine what
creative image Santoswoodenleg might be posting while I am home watching the game.

Perhaps when I scalp one of my World Series tickets ( not MINE the OTHER one) I will break down and get a computer though it is not really a money issue anyway.

I was of course broken hearted but not surprised that Maddux lost ONE TO NOTHING LAST NIGHT thanks to the wretched Padres offense but I can’t think of anyone I would rather outpitch him than Jaime Moyer. Raise your hands if you are old enough to remember their 1986 rookie season with the Cubs.

Home soon to watch tonight’s game. I trust a photo on Milton spearing the Magic Marlin
will be there tomorrow when I can go through the game thread.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 16, 2008 4:15 PM CDT 0 recs

milton?

by nolacubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up 0 recs

whats lineup tonight? my guess...

soriano lf
fukudome rf
ward 1b
soto c
edmonds cf
derosa 3b
fontenot 2b
theriot ss
marshall

I say give ramirez another day and see if he can play tomorrows day game

by cubs2410 on Aug 16, 2008 4:18 PM CDT 0 recs

I love all the old footage of Ernie Banks on the

60 year special on WGN.

I wish I were old enough to have seen Ernie play.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:20 PM CDT 0 recs

How long is the special?

I bought the “Cubs Forever” book, which is fantastic, and it includes a 40 minute DVD, though I seem to remember the TV showing to be 2 hours. Does anyone who has seen both know what the difference is between the DVD and the TV?

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up 0 recs

The special is 2 hours long

I haven’t had a chance to get the book yet.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up 0 recs

ok, thanks

The book is amazing, so be sure to pick one up sometime!

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up 0 recs

I've been meaning to

but haven’t had a chance to go to the bookstore.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up 0 recs

Id love to pick you up sometime :)

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .296 21 HR 57 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 16, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up 0 recs

I believe the book DVD only has the interviews

They could not include any game broadcast footage due to MLB licensing issues.

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Aug 16, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up 0 recs

ah, ok

so the TV one has game footage? The DVD is just interviews

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up 0 recs

yeah lots of game moments

w/ great calls from Brickhouse & Harry. Its really a blast.

I think this is the 3rd time I’ve watched it. And I still get goosebumps.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up 0 recs

Nice!

I’m to young to have watched Brickhouse, and I don’t remember much of Harry, so I’ll have to catch it on the tube sometime, or get a copy from someone

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up 0 recs

I'm too young to remember much of Harry as well

but Jack is so iconic. He’s incredible.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up 0 recs

That's what I've heard

1998 is the first TV/Radio stuff that I remember, which sadly was to late for both of them.

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up 0 recs

how old are you?

i’m 23. i remember pieces of the early 90s b/c my grandad and i listened to every game on the radio together. but by the time i was old enough to really appreciate it, harry was gone.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up 0 recs

I'm 20,

The first game I remember was a Cubs-Sox game at Wrigley in 1997, which was rained out(I still wear the Cubs poncho I bought), and the earliest TV game I remember was Kerry Wood’s 20 strikeout game in 98, I got home from school and I watched the last 2 innings, as my dad told me he was doing something special.

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up 0 recs

thats pretty cool though

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up 0 recs

I haven't seen either

But this is the gist of what I learned when it first came out, and I contacted WGN and the book publisher to find out what was included on the book DVD.

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Aug 16, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up 0 recs

If anyone can share this somehow

I’ll pay for any costs like postage, etc.

I don’t suppose a 2-hour video could be uploaded…..

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Aug 16, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up 0 recs

I'm surprised WGN hasn't sold a DVD version of it

I’d buy it. It’d be a great snowy offseason day thing to watch.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up 0 recs

Yes, me too

but they told me it’s all Bud Selig’s fault (as usual)

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Aug 16, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up 0 recs

Isn't everything his fault?

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up 0 recs

So it seems

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Aug 16, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up 0 recs

Thats lame

but not really surprising… letting fans enjoy the game obviously isn’t something Selig is about.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up 0 recs

I wasn't aware of any resrictions,

but yeah, it isn’t surprising. The owners don’t seem to care either, which is sad. Soon, everything will be like the No Fun League. Until I become commissioner…

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up 0 recs

I have it on DVD from a previous showing

though it was dubbed from a tape. If I can figure out how to make a copy, I can copy it for you.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Aug 16, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up 0 recs

Really?

I’d be eternally grateful if you could do that without going to too much trouble. Like I said, I’ll cover any costs!

I won’t be on here much tonight/tomorrow, but I’ll check back when I can.

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Aug 16, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up 0 recs

Email me (look in my profile).

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Aug 16, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up 0 recs

DeRoMyHeroMyHero

My next sig line quote will also be from Lou Piniella, and the first word will be either "Look", or "Listen", followed by a comma.

by JohnM on Aug 16, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up 0 recs

Can I ask for one as well?

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up 0 recs

Yes.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Aug 16, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up 0 recs

thank you!

by stadiumguru on Aug 16, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up 0 recs

I have rarely if ever seen such zest for the game.

One of the truly wonderful things about Ernie Banks was that he always seemed to be truly enjoying himself playing baseball. In sports, movies, TV, music, wherever, there are people who are enjoying what they do and those who don’t – and they are often easy to tell apart.

Saw #14 hit some HR’s, play first, and generally light up Wrigley decades before the lights went in, if ya get the drift…

by MN exile on Aug 16, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up 0 recs

Hey guys...

…gonna be away for most of the game tonight, but I just wanted to show off my brand-spankin’ new PROJECT 3000 shirt and my two dogs. On the left is Madison, a 2.5 year old beagle with a mean howl and a love for everyone and thing, and on the right is my girlfriends 5 month old Shiz Tsu, Gus (Gus Gus from Cinderella). Have a good game to all and GO CUBS GO!

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 16, 2008 4:24 PM CDT 0 recs

LOL

I love beagles. :-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up 0 recs

I'm sold on beagles for life.

They love children young and old (key for this special education teacher), love all other dogs, and I think their howl is funny as hell.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 16, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up 0 recs

I love hounds in general. The bark/howls are fabulous.

but my heart belongs to my golden retrievers. They’re so silly. :-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 16, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up 0 recs

The only beagle we've ever owned...

was the stupidest animal I’ve ever seen. No offense to your or your dogs….but I won’t ever own another one.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up 0 recs

Wurd.

He’s the smartest dog I’ve owned thus far, which is numero tres. Maybe it has to do with the owner, SWL?

SNAP.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 16, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up 0 recs

That's it smartass...I'm adding you to THE LIST!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 16, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up 0 recs

So that's what MDBNIU looks like?

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 16, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up 0 recs

I LOLed at this Chad

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 16, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up 0 recs

The shirt looks great

on you and the dogs are cute. We will miss you tonight.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 16, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up 0 recs

It's a real nice shirt, I am glad I got one for me and dad!

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 16, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up 0 recs

Thanks for buying the shirts!

Nice pic!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 16, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up 0 recs

Awe

love the dogs! Can’t wait to wear my shirt in Sept when I finally get to a Cubs game. They are sharp shirts! Oh and surprisingly, you look kind of like what I would think you might look like just from discussion and no scientific way at all, lol

"That guy is a gamer." said Ron Santo of Reed Johnson on 07-25-08

by love the ivy on Aug 16, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up 0 recs