Pregame Thread: Cubs vs. Marlins, Sunday 8/17, 12:10 CT
Chicago Cubs @ Florida Marlins
According to the Tribune, Kerry Wood, Carlos Marmol and Jeff Samardzija did a photo shoot yesterday for a Sports Illustrated feature on the Cubs bullpen. We ask only one thing: don't put this on the cover! That link also talks about whether Carlos Zambrano's focus on his hitting is affecting his pitching. Z says no, and I agree, but I will repeat what I said in the recap: I thought it was the wrong choice to send him up to bat for Bob Howry last night. Z does need to focus on pitching right now, not hitting.
Onward. There's a game to be won this afternoon. Note the weather forecast above: hot and sticky.
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Chris Volstad threw six decent innings against the Cubs at Wrigley Field on July 26, but was long gone before the Marlins won that game in the 12th inning. Aramis Ramirez homered off Volstad that day -- the only HR he has allowed in 38.2 innings so far this year. A-Ram pinch-hit last night, so hopefully he'll be able to start today.
Ryan Dempster was a Marlin for 4 1/2 seasons and won 14 games for them in 2000 and 15 in 2001, making the All-Star team in 2000. He has never started a game against them in Miami. During his career he has been tormented by Luis Gonzalez (11-for-19, 2 doubles, 2 HR, 5 walks), so look for Gonzalez to possibly get a start today. Unlike other Cub starters, Dempster has handled Hanley Ramirez pretty well (1-for-6). He started vs. Florida on July 25 at Wrigley Field, and like Volstad threw six good innings, but was not involved in the decision (a 3-2 Cub loss).
Today's game is on WGN again, so with the FSN Florida (EI) coverage, it should be available nationally. Also, the Brewers/Dodgers game is on TBS this afternoon at 3 pm CT. For the rest of today's TV games see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
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Discuss amongst yourselves.
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i imagine we'll use most of the
varsity starters today
by tim815 on Aug 17, 2008 10:33 AM CDT 0 recs
Good. I was on varsity.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on
Aug 17, 2008 11:31 AM CDT
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those left field dodgers fans are useless
kapler goes into the third row to catch a homerun and the fans didn’t decapitate him
by tim815 on Aug 17, 2008 10:35 AM CDT 0 recs
Just watched the replay
Kapler made a hell of a catch. When he caught the ball, his glove was a full foot above the nearest fans. He protected the ball by bringing the glove in. There’s little that the fans could have done to get the ball away.
by Shanghai Badger on
Aug 17, 2008 10:40 AM CDT
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he has to bring it out of the stands
someone should have……ummmmm….made that more difficult.
by tim815 on
Aug 17, 2008 10:44 AM CDT
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Yes, but again, he protected the ball
Unless you’re suggesting assaulting the guy, I don’t see what they could have done.
by Shanghai Badger on
Aug 17, 2008 10:50 AM CDT
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Can you post the link?
Didn;t catch it.
Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?
by Kinky Reggae on
Aug 17, 2008 10:52 AM CDT
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Somewhat OT
I don’t like that MLB doesn’t allow highlights to go on other sites like YouTube. If people are watching your “product”, don’t you want it as widely available as possible? I mean, sometimes I want to watch some old Bo Jackson clips or something…and I can’t.
Rant over.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on
Aug 17, 2008 11:42 AM CDT
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this is the same business
that tells us we can only watch one MLB game on a saturday afternoon, even if you buy their EI package.
I feel your pain. It all does seem like cutting off your nose to spite your face on the part of mlb.
by DWChaney on
Aug 17, 2008 11:54 AM CDT
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And that catch was awesome
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on
Aug 17, 2008 11:42 AM CDT
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That's what he was suggesting.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
by sue369 on
Aug 17, 2008 11:51 AM CDT
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low walls helped
but man, that was spectacular. There was leather being flashed all over the OF last night, three other nice brewer catches – one Corey Hart play that was a clumsy version of Reed’s dive into the wall. I still think the Endy CHavez catch in the World Series takes the cake, but Kapler’s grab was close.
by Harry Pavlidis on
Aug 17, 2008 11:50 AM CDT
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two fans in front row _stay seated_
one that goes up tries to catch the ball with his hat
that punk yankee fan jeffrey maier would tried at least
by tim815 on
Aug 17, 2008 12:03 PM CDT
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Every year
that seems to be the case. I think out of all of the teams in the majors, the Marlins are the most annoying just because of how pesky they are.
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 17, 2008 10:40 AM CDT 0 recs
I also hope
the the guys are not on the cover of SI but do look forward to reading the article.
Looking for a win today.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
by sue369 on Aug 17, 2008 10:42 AM CDT 0 recs
That SI link is broken for me...anyone else?
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on
Aug 17, 2008 11:32 AM CDT
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Shoot.
That’s not supposed to be a SI link… it’s supposed to be a chicagosports.com link talking about the SI shoot. I’ll fix it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Aug 17, 2008 11:33 AM CDT
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Fixed.
You should be able to read the link now.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Aug 17, 2008 11:34 AM CDT
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Al...my father and I got tickets last night...
…for that last home series, against the Cards. Bleachers Friday and nosebleeds Saturday. First trip to Wrigley in years. I’ll contact you later today – we would both like to meet up with you, sit together, hang out, whatever. I’m looking forward to a very special weekend.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on
Aug 17, 2008 11:35 AM CDT
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Email me.
Would love to have you sit with us for the Friday game. That should indeed be a great weekend of baseball.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Aug 17, 2008 11:37 AM CDT
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I think we're safe
I think some skinny superhuman kid from Baltimore will be on the cover.
"You get one extra flare a week -- just one -- a gork, a ground ball with eyes, a dying quail -- just one more dying quail a week and you're in Yankee Stadium!"
-- Crash Davis
by mlf on
Aug 17, 2008 12:09 PM CDT
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ENOUGH WIT SI!
I want no focus on this team, I want no ESPN coverage, I want the world to let these Cubs do what they are doing and only discuss once it is all over (with what we want to happen).
Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?
by Kinky Reggae on Aug 17, 2008 10:44 AM CDT 0 recs
Well
I’m a reasonable man. I can make that exception.
Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?
by Kinky Reggae on
Aug 17, 2008 10:47 AM CDT
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but only cuz the fellas consider her
their little sister
by tim815 on
Aug 17, 2008 11:03 AM CDT
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I think
that the Cubs getting no coverage is highly unlikely at this point. I say, enough with curses.
by Craig in South Bend on
Aug 17, 2008 10:45 AM CDT
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The worst part about having a good Cubs team and/or making the playoffs?
Fox/ESPN discussing the Cubs as if our essence consists solely of curses, 1908, and “Lovable Losers”. I can’t STAND that type of coverage.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on
Aug 17, 2008 11:33 AM CDT
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Agreed...
That’s really lazy sports journalism
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
by Reddevil on
Aug 17, 2008 11:34 AM CDT
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LSA
It’s ridiculous. I wish I could figure out a way to get them to stop.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Aug 17, 2008 11:34 AM CDT
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As far as Fox goes
I don’t think it will ever stop. They are the epitome of lazy journalism and out and out hackery. ESPN, on the other hand, is more about entertainment, so they’re sold on the fact that curse talk and blah blah blah will sell viewers as well.
by Craig in South Bend on
Aug 17, 2008 11:43 AM CDT
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Let us win big today!
Let us win, and hope the Dodgers beat the Brewers and even more hope that the Reds and Volquez somehow someway stop the Cardinals. We better be on this upcoming week, look at St. Louis schedule, they won’t lose again for another 10 games.
by graceunderpressure on Aug 17, 2008 11:11 AM CDT 0 recs
Cards Schedule
Talk about a relaxing rest of the month! At least they play Brewers for 2 games. Regardless thats going to help us one way or another…
by ak123 on
Aug 17, 2008 11:22 AM CDT
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Why is Howry not in the SI picture ?
I am shocked his is not considered a bullpen ace. Ok Ok he pitched a scoreless inning last night. FYI Eyre pitched 2/3rds of scoreless inning for the Phillies last night.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 17, 2008 11:38 AM CDT 0 recs
Oh, you and your Scott Eyre love.
Hope we light him up in two weeks.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Aug 17, 2008 11:44 AM CDT
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I have soft spot for "stevie"
because he was funny, very nice guy ( not that Howry isn’t I just know that much about him)
who wore his autographed Maddux Jersey when he came to Chicago to sign his contract but
honestly I do NOT hate Howry. I think it is hard to tell which one was really worse except that
Lou’s constant faith in Howry and the fact that he basically NEVER liked Eyre disturbs me. Oh
Yes Howry “throws strikes” but that makes no difference if those strikes sail over the bleachers..
Sadly I would like to see Howry traded or discover arm fatigue and Wuertz brought up.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on
Aug 17, 2008 12:02 PM CDT
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Gammons suggests
Has this been mentioned?
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
by Reddevil on Aug 17, 2008 11:41 AM CDT 0 recs
Yeah was in this fanpost...
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on
Aug 17, 2008 11:43 AM CDT
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Saw that
and read it earlier in the week. It’s an interesting argument, but it will never, EVER happen. I’d bet the house on it.
by Craig in South Bend on
Aug 17, 2008 11:44 AM CDT
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He will get some lower-place votes, though.
Could finish in the top 10.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on
Aug 17, 2008 11:44 AM CDT
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That says more
about how the award is inaccurately named.
Its not about the player’s value to his team, but how gaudy the numbers are.
Soto’s value is better than top 10 in my biased opinion.
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
by Reddevil on
Aug 17, 2008 11:46 AM CDT
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Lets hope
He deserves some recognition for how well he’s played this year, and how well he’s handled the pitching staff.
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 17, 2008 11:47 AM CDT 0 recs
Weird
Reply didn’t allow me to reply to the post above.
by Craig in South Bend on
Aug 17, 2008 11:47 AM CDT
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LINEUPS
Cubs:
AB R H RBI BB SO AVG
A Soriano LF
R Theriot SS
D Lee 1B
A Ramirez 3B
K Fukudome RF
G Soto C
M Fontenot 2B
R Johnson CF
R Dempster P
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
by Reddevil on Aug 17, 2008 11:51 AM CDT 0 recs
Fla
H Ramirez SS
L Gonzalez LF
J Cantu 3B
M Jacobs 1B
D Uggla 2B
J Hermida RF
C Ross CF
J Baker C
C Volstad P
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
by Reddevil on
Aug 17, 2008 11:52 AM CDT
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delay?
raining there? 1230 CT game time now
by Harry Pavlidis on
Aug 17, 2008 12:11 PM CDT
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i'm torn on ramirez playing today...
but i don’t imagine lou is forcing him in
by tim815 on
Aug 17, 2008 11:54 AM CDT
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that was supposed to be under the cubs,
but hanley needs a day off too, no?
by tim815 on
Aug 17, 2008 11:55 AM CDT
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Eh
I’d imagine he’s been icing that bruise for the last couple days. I would think he should be ready to go by this point.
by Craig in South Bend on
Aug 17, 2008 11:56 AM CDT
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Yep he wouldn't have been
put in the game last night if he weren’t ready.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
by sue369 on
Aug 17, 2008 12:00 PM CDT
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No DeRosa today.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
by sue369 on
Aug 17, 2008 11:55 AM CDT
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Yeah that sucks.
But even God got a day off.
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
by Reddevil on
Aug 17, 2008 11:56 AM CDT
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Is season ended today...
would we get NY or Arizona at home?
by Blaze22 on Aug 17, 2008 11:57 AM CDT 0 recs
zona
i wouldn’t mind a game 163 between kuroda and webb, thaa goes 15 innings
by tim815 on
Aug 17, 2008 11:59 AM CDT
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I'm rooting for LA rest of the way.
i don’t want to go back to AZ until 2009
by Blaze22 on
Aug 17, 2008 12:00 PM CDT
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First pitch thread is up
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2008/8/17/595473/first-pitch-thread-cubs-vs
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
by sue369 on Aug 17, 2008 12:02 PM CDT 0 recs













