A Going-Away Present: Cubs 9, Marlins 2
by Al Yellon on Aug 17, 2008 3:36 PM CDT
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PrintThe Cubs beat the Marlins 9-2 this afternoon, winning the series (their sixth straight series win), the season series from the Marlins 4-3, and said goodbye to south Florida for 2008 (Note to Mets and Phillies: please keep the Marlins in third place!) -- and good riddance.
I mean, seriously: a rain delay when it's not raining? And yes, I well remember the non-rain delay on August 23, 1999 at Wrigley Field, when at game time, 7:05, it wasn't raining but the field stayed covered until it DID start raining at 9:15, at which time they called the game. That game, which had a sellout crowd, had to be made up as a conventional single-admission doubleheader two days later, costing the Cubs about $1 million in ticket sales (based on 1999 prices) and likely costing Ed Lynch his job. Today, they delayed the start about 20 minutes, keeping the field covered, because they thought a storm might drift over the park. It never did.
This game didn't start out propitiously for the Cubs -- they kept leaving runners on base, shades of last night, five left on in the first three innings. And let me say right now: I like Ryan Theriot's attitude and hustle. But seriously, he has to stop stealing bases, or trying to, because his 58% success rate (18 SB, 13 CS) is horrid. And what was he thinking, trying to steal third with nobody out in a scoreless game in the third inning? Even Bob Brenly, who nearly always praises Theriot, ripped him for doing that. While Theriot is having a nice year via BA and OBA, what little power he showed last year (30 doubles) is gone (only 16 so far this year). A few days off wouldn't hurt.
Meanwhile, Ryan Dempster was throwing a nice game; his first mistake wasn't really his, it was Alfonso Soriano's, for not playing Cody Ross' high drive off the wall correctly. Thinking he could catch the ball, instead it took a Fenway-like bounce away from him for a triple. If Ross is held at second, maybe he doesn't score, because the next two hitters made outs (a shoestring catch by Kosuke Fukudome helped), and maybe the Cubs then give Hanley Ramirez an intentional walk and get out of the inning. In any case, it was just one run, and Dempster gave up another one on a walk and a double in the sixth, but then got out of the inning with only one more run scoring. In the interim, Soriano had played the next ball hit off the goofy scoreboard in Miami well, and it looked like he had thrown Ramirez out at second base, but it appeared the umpire was out of position to see Mike Fontenot tag him on the leg before it reached the base. No harm, because no runs scored in that inning.
And then the Cubs exploded in the seventh, and once again, everyone contributed; the Marlins' Renyel Pinto, so good early in the year, had an 18.00 ERA in five August appearances coming into this game with six walks in three innings, and after Mike Fontenot and Reed Johnson had started the inning with hits, for some reason, Fredi Gonzalez left Pinto in to throw to four straight right-handed hitters, with predictable results: he walked Mark DeRosa, then Soriano doubled in the tying runs (past a sliding Luis Gonzalez, who might have been able to make that play five years ago, but not at two weeks shy of age 41), one out later -- for some inexplicable reason -- Gonzalez ordered Derrek Lee walked intentionally to pitch to Aramis Ramirez with the bases loaded.
Now, we all love D-Lee, but seriously, who would YOU rather face with the bases loaded? In his career, prior to today, Lee is .214/.254/.491 with 8 HR with the bases loaded; A-Ram is .337/.336/.625 with 7 HR (that's not a misprint of the OBA there -- he's got 14 bases-loaded sac flies, and 7 bases-loaded walks). Anyway, we're all glad the Marlins chose to face Ramirez, who smacked a double down the line just out of reach of third baseman Jorge Cantu, breaking the tie to give the Cubs a 4-2 lead. Ramirez, incidentally, now seems fine after that minor shakeup Thursday night in Atlanta.
The best part of watching that was seeing the close-up replay of the dugout with all the Cubs watching intently, then exploding into cheers, led by Johnson and Henry Blanco (who eventually got into the game, and singled and scored, raising his career-best BA to .292), when the ball skipped into left field. It's cool to know that they're rooting that hard for their teammates.
And then, after a sac fly by Dome, two more walks (one intentional, one drawn by ONEDEC!), Johnson (who finished 4-for-5 today and is now batting .314), batting for the second time in the inning, drove a ball to the wall in left-center, clearing the bases and finishing the 8-run inning, the 22nd time the Cubs have scored five or more runs in an inning, far and away the most in the NL (the Phillies with 17 are 2nd).
Dempster got a deserved win, his 14th (one short of his career best), with the offensive outburst and Neal Cotts, Jeff Samardzija and Carlos Marmol finished up without incident, throwing three innings of one-hit relief.
So the Cubs are back to .500 on the road at 31-31, and finish up a 5-1 road trip, their best multicity trip of the year (I say "multicity" because the four-game sweep at Milwaukee, a single-city trip, was also outstanding). Goodbye to Miami and that silly mosquito mascot. We await the result of today's Brewers-Dodgers game, at this writing led by the Dodgers 3-0 in the second after two first-inning homers, to see if the Cubs will go into the off-day up by 4.5 or 5.5 games.
Great series, great trip. Enjoy the off-day tomorrow.
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First!
and damn, are you fast. Whoo hool cubs win.
"Don't worry, Joey. We'll go next year. They're in the World Series all the time" ---My grandfather to my sick father, October 10, 1945
Thought you guys might like a fast recap.
Figured once it got to 8-2, I could start writing.
What a terrific road trip!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
no jinxing it!
Cubs fans started singing in the ballpark, and Marmol promptly threw six or seven balls in a row.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
True enough.
Maybe he needs to pitch in tenser situations.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
For Sure
I’m a bit uneasy with all the ‘W’ flags being waived before the game is over too. I don’t think I’m superstitious but why tempt fate?
And so it goes.
Me too.
It drives me crazy when people unfurl the W flags before the win is secured. Singing “Go Cubs Go” was over the line, too. All’s well that ends well, though, I suppose.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
even len pointed that out
w/ the always fun line “I’m not superstitious, but” lol
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I heard that.
I have neighbors who fly the W flag outside their houses. That’s great and all, but I go crazy when they leave the flag up after a Cubs loss. I’ve seriously considered donning my ninja gear and taking a few of them down. Fortunately, that won’t be necessary today.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Both Well Played
LOL
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
Technically...
…. if you listen to the lyrics, the fans were singing the song at the perfect time. The Cubs are gonna win today. I’ve always thought it was silly to sing that after they’ve already won.
If Red Auerbach (sp?) were a Cub fan, he’d have been lit up already.
Dome-san!!
by Goat Whisperer on Aug 18, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions
LMAO
I did have to wait for the last out! Marmol made me wait a whole extra batter!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
BTW, we are the same age.
how great is it to have the Cubs at .500 on the road AND to do it against the Fish!!
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
You bet.
It does look like they finally have the Florida monkey off their back. Great series.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Probably because I didn't go this time :(
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
Did you catch?
Did you catch the morning news on 7? They talked about the new Cubs book and showed your picture. Was giving the dog a bath when heard it.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
That was promoted on yesterday's game thread.
I was the one who got Will booked on the show.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Oops
I was tied up in and out all day. Was supposed to go to gencom but someone screwed up the hotel reservations.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Dang that was fast!
Well the Cubs don’t pay Fonzi for his glove but for his bat and he came through with a double to tie it up and set up Reed Johnson who put it away for us.
And Theroit needs to work on his dancing feet. But with a win like this and 2 out of 3 in Flordia I’m a happy guy.
Baseball is too much of a sport to be a business and too much of a business to be a sport.
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by bubbamike the one and only on Aug 17, 2008 3:44 PM CDT reply actions
Fonzi
made some decent catches. And you don’t often see him go back to the wall and jump. I was pleased to see him do that, even if he didn’t make the play. And the second time it was hit off the wall, he played it PERFECTLY. That runner was OUT at second.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Ramirez WAS out.
That play didn’t cost them a run, but the first one may have.
In any case, all’s well that ends well.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Theriot
I didn’t like the attempted steal (or the caught stealing!) either – but was that Teriot’s decision? I thought it was a double-steal, and assumed it came from the bench to try to get them kick-started.
Al is right thought, that his percentages are aweful.
a win is a win.
Len and Bob thought
that Riot did it on his own, and Lee was just paying attention.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
If Theriot went on his own...
… then someone has to stop him.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I'll bet
Theriot thinks he can dunk too!
""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone
For a good 1/2 to 3/4's of this season
I have screamed: DON’T STEAL, THERIOT. Fat lot good it does. One would think one would learn from experience, but nooooo.
we could procure
a sniper rifle from somewhere. (:P)
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Based on the replay..........
………..it looked like this came from the dugout. Seemed Lee broke at the same time as Theriot, so I’d say Lou has to accept the blame.
After last night’s poor showing, suspect he was looking to shake things up early.
"Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle." ~ George Burns
Yep, looked like a double steal....
Can’t fault Riot too much, though he got a horrible jump…
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Well then
you actually can fault him.
The Theriot apologists are astounding. If you need a single with nobody on, he’s fine. But he does absolutely nothing else well.
Bat Him 8th
and move DeRo/Fonty to 2nd in the order?
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
The Nice Thing About Theriot Batting 8th
is that, assuming he gets on and the pitcher either gets on or makes only the 1st/2nd out, Soriano has an RBI opportunity.
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
Even better
Move DeRo to second, bat Cedeno 8th, and bench Theriot
Can Cedeno Match Theriot's OBP
given the same number of at bats?
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
The thing is,
Cedeno’s glove is better, and he’s widely considered to be a much better hitter. He may not post the same OBP, but will hit with some pop.
maybe, maybe not
Riot can NOT, however, match Cedeno’s power.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
quite.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
seems to me that
theriot does a hell of a job getting on base before the heart of the order comes up……..thats what we need in the 2 hole.
I can't imagine Lou putting a double steal on
with no outs and Ramy at the plate. Not even Ned Yost would do something that stupid. DLee just did a good job of following the lead runner.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
With the offense............
……….scuffling last night, I can see Lou making this call early in the game.
The replays pretty much verify Lee moving with the pitch. He certainly wasn’t looking at Theriot.
"Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle." ~ George Burns
Great Roadrip!
Now let’s go home and beat up on Dusty.
"Booze, broads, and bullshit. If you got all that, what else do you need?" Harry Caray
by CubbieintheSouth on Aug 17, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply actions
BOOYAKASHAH!!!
I’d been monitoring this one at the pool all afternoon and got home just in time to see Marmol wrap it up. What a great offensive explosion. Great pitching by Demp and the pen. And a fine, fine 5-1 road trip. Now it’s time to follow the Dodgers-Brewers game and root for the other boys in blue.
!!!! CUBS WIN !!!!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
Right on, Al
could not believe you’d walk D-Lee in that spot the way he’s hit in clutch spot vs. the way Ramirez has. And the Pinto thing was just laughable—and we all know the dangers of Pintos backing up!
Lou gets his share of criticism but the days are few in which we get outmanaged. I don’t think he pushes as many buttons as he did last year (hit and run, etc.) but more often than not his decisions work out.
""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone
huh?
Now, we all love D-Lee, but seriously, who would YOU rather face with the bases loaded?
This would be relevant if DLee was up with the bases loaded, but he wasn’t. He was up with runners on 2nd/3rd (where he has hit .325/.529/.663 in his career, which, FWIW, is better than ARam’s .337/.336/.625 with the bases loaded).
With that said… I still wouldn’t have walked him. But at least get the facts straight.
visit the mindful mission
Yeah.
Derrek is still a dangerous hitter. Granted, he hasn’t hit for as much power as we would like — he still is one of our most potent hitters.
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Didn't The Same Thing Happen vs. the White Sox
this year, at one of the games at Wrigley?
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
was trying to remember that myself.
but really? I love Derrek… but close and late with RISP? I want Rami up everyday of the week in that situation.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
not when he is in those slumps of his
DLee is fine, he just isnt a flashy player so he gets more grief then most when he isnt hitting 400. Every since his really high average years he has alot to live up to, but he still our guy
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course.
But many here act like walking Lee to face Ramirez is like walking Blanco to face Ramirez.
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I didn't say anyone said that.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
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Ok whatever.
My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: (Due date: August 11) (Tamia, where are you?)
BTW 'nique
Seven months ago I went through what you’re going through now. Nine days late!
Don’t worry though. Your daughter will get here eventually. Ours did and she was probably healthier for it.
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh Timmers on Aug 18, 2008 1:42 AM CDT up reply actions
True enough.
In that SITUATION, Lee was the batter to face. You pitch around him, hope he makes an out.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Sure...
… that may be true.
But the paragraph you wrote doesn’t make any sense if it is talking about that SITUATION.
visit the mindful mission
by big_lowitzki on Aug 17, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, you're right
I should have said something like, “The Marlins probably should have pitched to Lee, since Ramirez has been a better RBI man this year”, or something like that. Instead I mixed up numbers I shouldn’t have.
Better?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
that would be...
…. much better.
You compared the current situation that ARam found himself in to a hypothetical situation for Derek Lee that didn’t exist in this game.
Further… based on your logic, it would have made sense to walk Lee, being that Lee had better numbers in the actual situation than ARam did in the actual situation.
visit the mindful mission
by big_lowitzki on Aug 17, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I understand this.
I was making a comparison that wasn’t logical… but for some reason it made sense to me while I was writing it. Got to get more sleep.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I think we get the point, dude.
It was an accident. Why not comment with this amount of tenacity when the facts are right?
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
pretty sure...
… that Al can defend himself.
visit the mindful mission
by big_lowitzki on Aug 17, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
and...
.. comment with “tenacity” when the facts are right?
What do you want me to do… say something like:
Great job Al! You got the facts right this time!
visit the mindful mission
by big_lowitzki on Aug 17, 2008 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
hm.
there’s something to be said about wanting to be completely accurate in everything you do, but generally, when people notice small mistakes or lapses in logic, they tend to let it go. you’re reading a baseball discussion forum man, not a freaking dissertation for a PhD. Let it go.
by ThisIsResolute on Aug 18, 2008 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions
No.
Al let it go. I was thinking as I read above that it was a very graceful and humble exit by Al. It could have turned into a brawl, but he just bowed out. You didn’t let it go, you pushed it until Al backed down.
Not trying to get back into it. Don’t want to get back into it. However, don’t try to take credit for letting it go.
Scoreboard Update
Crew batting in the 4th
Still 3-0 Dodgers
Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!
Cameron solo shot
3-1 Dodgers
Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!
That's the last time
I change the channel in frustration in the 6th inning.
I seriously need to join everyone
in the 21st century.
Ok.. if the Cubs make the playoffs, I’ll get myself a Tivo.
Softball Rules For The Riot, Too
No leading off first base until after the pitcher throws the ball!
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
Weeks lost popup in the sun
1st & 2nd – 2 outs for the Dodgers
Bottom 4th
Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!
Ed Lynch
He was fired because he was crap at his job, and not because of any one incident.
Anyhow, how was he responsible for the decision to delay the start of a game? I thought that was up to the umpires.
"I Didn't Know Robin Ventura Wanted To Stay In Chicago"
When he said that the day after Ventura signed with the Mets (leaving us stuck with an overripe Gaetti), that’s when Eddie Baby should’ve been axed.
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
Eddie Baby should have never been hired to start with...
…and that falls on the shoulders of the blue blooded Captain of the Sweater Vest., McPhail
"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08
Don't you mean MacFail
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MacPhail Was More Loyal To His Philosophies Than The Cubs
When he first got to the Cubs, MacPhail should’ve realized the resources at his disposal and spent more for top talent. But instead he held the fans hostage with his fiscally responsible, “content to compete within the division” way of running things.
It’s like the T-shirt I once saw that said “YOUR FAILED BUSINESS MODEL IS NOT MY PROBLEM”.
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
Umpires decision after the first pitch has been thrown?
Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!
No, management is responsible up to the first pitch.
Yes, he wasn’t very good at his job. But that game was the last straw.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Is a cool million in ticket sales even that big of a deal?
Not that I have any figures in front of me, but it just doesn’t seem like a large dollar amount for a professional sports team.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Remember, we're talking about 1999...
… payrolls and ticket prices were far different nine years ago.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
i say...
i wanna beat the dbacks, marlins, and…..heck, the white sox in the postseason!!!
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:31 PM CDT reply actions
you know...
to get all the monkeys off our back all at once
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
dude.
isn’t the postseason itself enough of a monkey? do we really need a gorilla instead? LOL
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
why not do it in extreme dramatic fashion?
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
b/c Cubs in October is dramatic enough for me
if we can get 11 I don’t care if they come against Dominican Summer League as long as they count.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
haha, thats great!
i will, like you, take them ANYWAY we can get em
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Angel Guzman's rehab start in Iowa today:
3 IP/ 0 ER/3 K/1 BB/1 H
Looking good. Al, you ready to admit that he could pitch in the majors this year?
That's nice to hear.
Who knows…maybe he’ll be one of the September callups after all.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
i just hope we aren't rushing him.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
he just had TJ last august
they rushed Carpenter back and he’s hurt again.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d love for ANYONE to come up and contribute, I just don’t want us to rush someone and risk losing him for even longer.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed, but Carpenter's value to the Cards is a little different
than Guzman and his value to this team. If we can get some quality outings from him in Sept, I’m all for it.
I know.
I am just counting on nothing from Guzman… so anything he does contribute is a huge bonus.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Bullpen Duty?
That way his innings are limited…
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
Fielder GIDP
Middle of 5th, 3-1 Dodgers.
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
There are too many people complaining
I dont understand. Marmol did fine, and will be fine. Lee is a SICK SMART BALLPLAYER, and if I hear another person complain about him batting 3rd I am going to go nuts. That is a key spot in the lineup and hes playing just fine, not to mention his amazing glove. Just because he isnt going to hit 30+ HR doesnt mean he shouldnt be batting 3rd. Theriot with his OBP should be batting second. Thats where you put people who get on base all the time, but yes he needs to stop trying to steal bases. He does his job well. Soriano doesnt have a great glove but he hits like a mofo and sometimes makes up for his bad glove with his cannon arm. Our bench is sick, our coaching is the best I have ever seen in a Cubs uniform, our pitchers are all SICK (except Howry), our road record is now .500 and our home record is amongst the best. STOP COMPLAINING PEOPLE, I realize we are used to bitchin all the time about the Cubs, but not this year, EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE. We might only have one batter with 100 RBIs (Ramirez) and we had our super star out for 30+ games, but everyone is doing there part well where they are in the lineup. DONT FIX SOMETHING THAT ISNT BROKEN!!! GO CUBS!!! I am so excited being back in Chicago to go to this next homestand!
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:39 PM CDT reply actions
Suggestion for Sori
put “MOFO 12” on the back of his uni!
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
yes thank you
I was really happy then came on here and see complaints everywhere, I dont get it
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Minor Quibbles, Nothing More
My only concern is that a Theriot baserunning gaffe or a Soriano misplay might cost us a game in the postseason, assuming we get that far.
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
yea,
complaining can be a little overbearing. wasnt in the game thread to hear it all. but, there are some issues that may need to be looked at.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Hope so.
no need to get all yell-y. We’re all in agreement: our “problems” are pretty good to have.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
and the players with less RBIs then usual is because we dont have just 1 star doing all the work. The bases are being cleared by someone new everyday, or everybody does it in 1 game, therefore the RBIs are being spread amongst the team
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Some valid points, but understand that not everything is going to be sunshine and rainbows.
We’re on this site to have discussions and arguments about the Cubs, not just to praise them. This place wouldn’t be much fun if we couldn’t get together and have some good debates about our favorite team. We realize how well they’re playing, and are enjoying it, but that doesn’t preclude anyone from offering their opinions on the team or its players.
BTW, A guy with an OBP like Theriot’s would be best suited to leadoff, but since we know that won’t happen, it makes more sense to hit him 8th, in front of the pitcher.
Agree with you 100%
it is a place for great debate, but the thing is… some of these arguments are just because some people dont know how to look at things in a positive light sometimes, you know? and you are right about Theriot, I can see him in the 8 hole, but with Piniella’s amazing coaching decisions, I will trust his decision to keep Theriot there
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
i agree completely
we are in first place….28 games (i think) above .500….etc etc etc….stop complaining so much people and just be happy…..theriot runs the bases just fine for the most part……sori plays defense just a hair above average….marquis is a quality #5 starter…..lets stop focusing on the few negatives we have and celebrate the many positives we do have
pointing out that Riot has blunders on the basepaths
is NOT being a debbie downer. thats being honest.
Riot needs to either pick his spots better or just run less.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
oh please
we just came off (what i would call) a huge road series win…..i come on here and the discussion is ripping theriot for his poor baserunning
so yes that is being a debbie downer…..had his poor baserunning cost us the game, then fine rip him all you want, but we just WON….stop finding little things to complain about
i agree that we had a GREAT road trip
and i’m as positive as it gets, but saying “no pointing out flaws” is irritating.
on the whole, we have a good team. but there are flaws and it SHOULD be okay to point them out among fellow fans.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Yet last night...
…you tell everyone to “chill out” when they complained about Fonzie’s pick off?
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
so you think it's okay to be negative?
because I believe that was the point carmen was making, which I completely agree with. Just interesting that 5 minutes ago you were arguing the other side of the coin. Being a hypocrite doesn’t lend much credence to the things you say.
what are you talking about
bc carmen was not referring to me…..i wasn’t even on here last night……calm down haha
Carmen was getting on HBCG for telling people not to be negative,
the exact thing you were just telling me. Then you say “amen” to carmen’s comment? Makes sense.
Seems like you're trying to start one
HBCG is usually about as positive as they come. There is nothing wrong with pointing out shortcomings in someone’s game.
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 17, 2008 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
and its pretty hypocritical of me… but when they are names I’ve NEVER seen in game threads before who show up JUST to complain it pisses me off.
So yeah. I’m a hypocrit.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, I don't frequent the game threads like I used to....
….but I was kind of shocked to see that from you after only a couple negative comments.
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I was trying to nip it in the bud
but I should have just left it alone. Thats why I left when I did.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
He's developed a pattern of bad baserunning, and boneheaded plays in general.
It may not have affected the outcome of today’s game, but in the long run it does hurt the team to have a player constantly making baserunning mistakes like Theriot does. Obviously I’m thrilled with the roadtrip, and think this is a great team with great prospects for the rest of the season. That does not stop me from being able to critique problems that may eventually hurt the team.
Since you read what I wrote, and that was your reply, then
you really must just be an idiot. No need for this conversation to continue, because clearly you have problems comprehending anything I write. Go play in the street.
easy easy easy sackings
no need to name call here
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Hang on
isnt calling someone a “debbie downer” name calling? It certainly seems just as insulting.
Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB
by californiachicagoan on Aug 18, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
You really think
calling someone an idiot and telling them to go play in the street are the same as calling someone a Debbie Downer?
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
again
what are you talking about…..this whole conversation started bc i made a comment that people need to chill out about the few problems we do have and to focus on the good things
my point was don’t be a debbie downer, not arguing about theriots poor base running so writing that was me making a point that despite having a good point, it still qualifies you as one
So, due to the fact that Ryan Theriot is a bad baserunner,
I’m a debbie downer. Got it. Let’s agree to stop talking about this now.
i didn't say that!
you’re now making statements that simply have no logic behind them…..i agree this conversation with someone like you is going nowhere
YOU focusing on theriots poor baserunning when we just had a huge win most certainly gives you the title of debbie downer
here's the difference btw you and him
sure he made good points about theriot being a crappy baserunner, which is fine bc ultimately he comes to the the conclusion that “no harm” was done……he’s not a debbie downer like you
he (like we all do) realizes theriots got something to work on, but does he dwell on it? no….BIG DIFFERENCE
You both have good points
but you’re both coming at this the wrong way. Yes, ALWAYS pointing out negative things IS a downer, but saying “hey this guy needs to improve this aspect” is not. So I guess it just depends on how you’re reading Sackings. I don’t see him as being a downer just a “hey I don’t like that part of this game but man am i glad we won”.
Deep breathes. Everything is FINE.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
read my above comment
we’re on the same page…..my point is don’t dwell on the negatives when we have so much to celebrate
I agree completely
I just don’t see why you’re still coming across so snippy.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
this was from today.. I think its snarky.
Since you read what I wrote, and that was your reply, then
you really must just be an idiot. No need for this conversation to continue, because clearly you have problems comprehending anything I write. Go play in the street.
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Madison replied in the wrong spot.
I think she was tyring to reply to Sackings asking where he was insulting.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm THRILLED aobut todays game
that was a great game. Demps was fantastic. Rami was as clutch as usual. it was good.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I am.
I think you are prolly right….. sackings makes some great points, he obviously knows quite a bit about baseball. Which is great, we are all here to discuss and learn.
but my problem is w/ the snarkiness of the other comments he makes. There is no need to tell someone to go play in the street.
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I like your way of looking at things
Sackings just sounds a lot meaner then he probably is, we all like to get our points across, and some of us are more stuborn then others. I am one of those people I am sure, but I like your way of looking at things as well. The positives of Theriot outweigh the negatives of Theriot… same for Sori and same for Lee, not to sure about fukudome though, but well see
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't mean to come across like that, I apologize if I do.
And I agree with you about Lee and Soriano, because they are both valuable offensive players, and defensive in Lee’s case. We’ll agree to disagree on Theriot.
I dont think you come off like that personally
I just wanted to let some people know that just because you disagree doesnt mean your are trying to kick their ass or anything… haha
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
It’s called a “difference of opinion” for a reason. Some just feel the need to keep arguing, like they’re finally going to “convert” the other person into agreeing with them. That rarely happens. LOL.
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I think discussing Theriot here is much like
religion and politics. :)
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
so d-lee hits into alot of
DP’s. should we bench him?? no, it is a downfall of his game. quit making his one downfall make him sound like someone who hurts the team, and doesnt contribute
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
dude,
what is your hate for theriot? i havent heard anything bad about him until yesterday, when he got CS again. maybe Lou shouldnt put the steal sign on, esp in that situation. maybe theriot doesnt want to steal.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Preacherman, let's agree to disagree about this one.
No need to rehash the Theriot argument. Some people like him, some people don’t, and we’re not gonna convince eachother otherwise.
+1
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
agreeto disagree...
it just gets old having the same convo, and then you say to drop it, whjen you brought it up
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I clearly wasn't dropping it above, I just didn't think we needed to have it again.
But since you asked, sure. Here’s my problem with Theriot’s baserunning. He constantly makes egregious baserunning gaffes, and has shown no signs that he’s getting better at it. Here’s a link: http://www.wrigleyville23.com/2008/08/tootblans-finally-catalogued-for.html
Ok, now let’s talk about other things wrong with him. He can’t field worth a damn, he gets to NOTHING outside of his fielding zone, and his arm is about as strong as a 5 yr old girl.
Now lets talk about his power, or lack thereof. All he does is hit singles. That’s it. Theriot will never really drive in runs, because he simply isn’t capable of it. All he’s good for is some empty OBP.
In conclusion, Ryan Theriot is a scrappy singles hitter who plays horrible defensively, runs the bases like Arnie from What’s Eating Gilbert Grape, and can’t get to second base. I’m happy to not drop it, and defend my point of view.
and yet, despite all of this...
We’re still 28 games over .500.
:)
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep, and it's been a great season.
I know many of you won’t agree with me about Theriot, and that’s fine. We’re all here to express our differing opinions, that’s what makes this place great.
P.S…. imagine how much further up we could be with a real SS :-}
Saying anything about Theriot:
can open… worms EVERYWHERE.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
sad part is, i'm not even a huge theriot fan
my original arguement had nothing to do with his abilities and it turned into this haha
you missed it
you are about half an hour late.
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Theriot is bcb version of
religion and politics… everyone has an opinion and rarely will anyone chance theres.
:)
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
good point
Theriot and Marquis are like discussing politics and religion.
better???
:)
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I knew that was coming...
..or if Howry pitching was better.
…or if DWard had more PH’s
…or if Marquis was better
…or if Marmol wouldn’t have had a mid season collapse.
….etc etc etc
Hell, we’d be 124-0!!!!
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
and someone would still find something to complain about
oh.no.I.did.not.just.step.into.this
Even Michael Phelps and his coach said they had things they could have done better. Go figure!
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
there's always room
for improvement. I don’t think any serious athlete would ever say anything different.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
you're right carmen we suck
theriot sucks at running
dlee sucks at not grounding into dp’s
aramis sucks at sliding
waaaah waaaaahhh……debbie downer
This is why this argument continues.
I constantly defend Lee, because I think he gets too much grief for his DP’s. I love Aramis, and don’t complain about anything with him. He’s a great player. So build up your strawmen, and I will continue to burn them. I do think Theriot sucks at running, however.
i wasn't even talking to you
i was responding to carmen and continuing what they said and you get all personal and start talking about “buring my strawmen”
aramis sucks at sliding? did you really think i was being serious that someone said that?!?!
Saying I'm burning your fake arguments
is not getting personal. Do you know what a strawman argument is?
replace personal with defensive
wrong word
and no i have no clue what the strawman argument means, could you PLEASE explain it to me
here I thought I broker a peace deal
:(
have at it boys…. I give up
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
hey
can we stop this? please?
Sackings is snarky. You’re obviously convinced he’s a downer.
Thats fine. But we WON. Can we not do this anymore? Please?
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Group Hug Time!!!!
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
plus cubbiegirl is a feisty one
don’t know if we’d want to her mad. so made a truce is in order.
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry,
i just like theriot. so im gonna defend him. if he wants to point out all the bad things about one person, let him, all the while EVERYONE has something that they could probably work on…no one on this team is perfect. think of the bad stuff this could do to the clubhouse if we put cedeno in as a starter…it might split the clubhouse
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Since it was asked.
All the bad things about Ryan Theriot:
- Baserunning
- Defense
- Hitting for extra bases
He can’t pitch, either, if anyone was wondering.
could he coach third base? :P
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Is there another team in the division lead with this type of shortstop?
Let’s look at ’em (AL 5 teams with tie in central):
Tampa – Jason Barlett, .266 BA/.304 OBP/.321 SLG
Sox – Orlando Cabrera, .270/.325/.350
Twins – Brendan Harris, .263/.322/.389
Angels – Erick Aybar, .280/.319/.388
BoSox – Julio Lugo, .268/.355/.330
NL:
Brewers – J.J. Hardy, .276/.337/.462
Mets – Jose Reyes, .305/.363/.492
DBacks – Stephen Drew, .281/.323/.481
Cubs – Ryan Theriot, .316/.396/.372
I know you can kill me in the stats deparment, cwyers, but I’m just sayin…Theriot’s offensive numbers aren’t that off from most of the AL guys, especially those who’s teams lead the division or wild card. We don’t have a Hanley or Tejada or Rollins at short, sure, but we do have a hellava wins with him on the field.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Well, that leaves out defense and baserunning
Tampa – Jason Barlett, .266 BA/.304 OBP/.321 SLG 18SB/5CS
Sox – Orlando Cabrera, .270/.325/.350 18/3
Twins – Brendan Harris, .263/.322/.389 1/1
Angels – Erick Aybar, .280/.319/.388 6/2
BoSox – Julio Lugo, .268/.355/.330 12/4
NL:
Brewers – J.J. Hardy, .276/.337/.462 2/1
Mets – Jose Reyes, .305/.363/.492 40/12
DBacks – Stephen Drew, .281/.323/.481 3/1
Dodgers – Furcal, .366/..448/.597 8/2
Cubs – Ryan Theriot, .316/.396/.372 18/13
So all the NL guys out OPS Ryan, and all the AL guys (but one) out run him. They have at least 3/1 stolen base ratios, where Ryan has less than half that success rate. The only guy I would say he definitely has better all around numbers than is Harris, and he isnt even an everyday SS. He spends half his time at 2b.
And we havent even factored in D yet. Ryan has the 2nd lowest range factor of all qualified SS, and 3rd lowest zone rating.
I like Ryan. I appreciate hustle. I’m glad to have him on the team. He is good at putting the bat on the ball, and his increased walks are a godsend. He also has no range, no arm, no power, and has had a perplexing bad year stealing bases this year.
He has good and bad, and if Onedec had continued his nice start to the year, he should have taken over or at least be given more time at short. However, with the reappearance of Cedeno, Ryan’s job is safe in my mind.
The idea of replacing Soriano with Theriot at the leadoff seems like a big mistake. Espcially given the possibility that Fonzie has his wheels back. .900 OPS or .767? 12/1 SB/CS (in 350 PA) or 18/13 (in 500 PA)? I think those outweigh the .340 to .396 OBP advantage that Ryan has.
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by californiachicagoan on Aug 18, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe it's our
fault and we jinxed Cedeno by calling him Onedec when he had that nice turn around. I’m not a superstitious person but…..
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
It was a joke.
Having a sense of humor on here will get you along way.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
the thing is
Theriot is a bad base stealer…. I agree, but explain the bad base running? And seriously guys the man makes $390,000 and is significantly better at OBP then anyone on the Cubs… 390, frickin, 000 dollars!!!!! in MLB!!!!!!!!!!
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Go here:
http://www.wrigleyville23.com/2008/08/tootblans-finally-catalogued-for.html
That enough bad baserunning for you?
ok ok
Thank you for that, I really did want to see something like that, I still think his positives out weigh the negatives, but your point was proven very well… thank you
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
sackings108
this is the second day in a row you are here insulting people. Is there a reason you can’t prove your point with out insults?
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
who did I insult yesterday?
And today, I called cubswynn an idiot, and immediately admitted it was wrong.
you didnt
you just are giving your opinions… hence a BLOG thread
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone asked a question about what happened in the game so far
You got all snarky told them to check out gameday for the update…………… Sue commented that we are all here to learn things.
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
sue is the man
or wait… the WOman
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Sackings...CubsWynn....HalfblindCubbieGirl
We know how this works… this is a never ending argument that has been going on since atleast I have been a member of this site and probabyl before…. lets just scroll down to the bottom of this page on move onto another convo
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I like Theriot fine.
I love that he loves the game and plays hard. I just wish he’d run smarter. Thats it to me really.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not looking to argue at all. I expressed disappointment
with Theriot’s continuing failure as a baserunner, and you jumped all over me for it. I didn’t want to argue, just express my opinion.
Ethier solo bomb
4-1 Dodgers
Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!
Still 4-1 Dodgers, End of 5
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Clutch Cubs
Doesn’t it seem that this years team wins the big series or game. Four game sweep of the Brewers, Series win over the Cardinals, Series win over the Marlins(on the road). I believe that is a good sign for our October possibilities.
Great Win
Was cleaning out a basement workwrom all afternoon, but got to hear Pat during the 8-run 7th. Even the dirtiest jobs (lots of mouse poop to deal with) are tolerable when the Cubs win.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
We May Have A Mouse, Too
Our dogs have been sniffing along the baseboards like crazy, and my wife said she saw some mouse drops on the counter this morning.
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
Peanut butter
on a snap trap – works like a charm for me.
Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!
Mice
We’ve caught several in the kitchen. Peanut butter on snap trap workd for us to. But I had no idea how bad the situation was in the basement workroom. Also, we have three cats in our house. I feel like DFAing the lot of them. Only kidding. We love our kiddies, monor-league mousers though they may be.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
by sweetswinger on Aug 17, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
Lemme guess, their names are Howry, Eyre, and Marquis!
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
Two of them
to the SPCA for a kittie to be named later?
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
by sweetswinger on Aug 17, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
There are more humane ways of catching mice.
Why make them suffer?
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/09/mouse_trap.php
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Aug 17, 2008 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
We thought we had a mouse
so we set a live trap…. and caught a sugar glider.
Still have no idea where it came from.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
What's a Sugar Glider?
Hopefully not bigger than a mouse!
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
Our guy
looks like this.
He’s a cutie… but really? We have no idea where he came from.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I have never seen
one of those before. He’s kind of cute though.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
Wow, Never Seen One of Those!
Snap traps are out…the missus says they’re too cruel.
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
we used a live trap w/ peanut butter inside.
was really easy. $20 from the local TSC.
And snap traps are cruel.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I disagree
Quick and effective. Glue traps are cruel.
Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!
+1
I started doing catch and release. However, the mice play were playing, catch, release—and return.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
by sweetswinger on Aug 17, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
In LA, the small critters are still rats,not mice.
So we go with snap traps w/peanut butter. Once the “rat-proofing” of the house has been violated, it is us v them. So we have no choice but the industrial strength traps. I am anti-violence, but I also don’t want anything to hurt my dogs.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
Rat Zapper Ultra with a Rat Tail
No blood. Highly recommended.
Put a couple of pieces of dog food pellets (included) inside the trap, place the opening up against a wall, and leave it until the red light comes on.
Just make sure to check for the red light often. If you leave a dead rodent in there too long, the maggots take over and the smell is terrible.
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
You can also save money and make your own...very easy too.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/09/mouse_trap.php
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Aug 17, 2008 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
A look ahead.
Cincy and then Washington at home. Two last place teams for the next six games, time to put some wins on the board here and put even more distance between the Cubs and the Brewers/Cards. Both those two teams, however, are playing “bad” teams at home as well… might have to settle for where things end up for the day, only burning off six games off the schedule.
all we need to do is win.
THEY have to catch up.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
as long as the cubs are winning, all the brewers/cards can do is keep pace.
This is “take care of business” time.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
They better be planning
on winning more than 100 because that is the only way they are catching the Cubs.
Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!
MID 6TH
Still 4-1 Dodgers
Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!
Jinx
pinch poke you owe me a Coke :)
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
i haven't heard that in AGES
lol
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Mid 6th, Still 4-1 Dodgers
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
Kendall grounds out
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
Dodgers in business
2nd & 3rd – 1 out
Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!
FAIL
Stranded
K looking and deep flyout
Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!
Braun, A Horrible OF, Makes A Running Catch
End of 6th, 4-1 Dodgers.
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
The LF Defense in the NL Central is horrible.
It actually got a little better now that Duncan got hurt and Dunn was traded.
I don't think Fonzie is "horrible"
definitely not Braun level anyway. He is brutal.
Fonzie at least has the arm and speed to make up for some of his less than stellar routes.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I have to take more naps
When the Marlins went up 2-0 and had men on the corners with one out , I got nervous
turned off the TV and took literal cat nap. I turned it back on and it was 5-2 Cubs with bases loaded two out and RJ at the plate. I wish I could do this every time the Cubs are down.
FYI the most disgusting non rain RAIN out of all time was a few years ago when King George of the Yankees did not like the starting pitcher and the Yanks had a day game on Lou Gehrig Day. They even had Teresa Wright the actress who played Eleanor there as part of a pre-game ceremony. WELL THE GAME WAS CALLED after the ceremony but not A DROP of rain fell the ENTIRE day and the pitcher ( I forget who) had his start skipped. The Yankees claimed radar showed it was GOING to rain ? The tens of thousands of fans who were at the game got their money back but it was despicable and the Yankees should have been fined.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
yay for cubbie highlights on sportscenter
:-)
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:01 PM CDT reply actions
Larry & Z
Al……..About 12:15 – an hour and 15 min. b4 the game Larry did a bullpen session with Z I was about 10 feet away. I couid hear some of the conversation which had to do with downward plane and arm slot, staying on top of the ball. He sure looked better then when I saw him friday and I had a good viewpoint from in back of the plate about 10 row up……………..I have some pictures ….. but hey I am not a PC genius
don’t know how to cut & paste them into this site……………….
by nimblenikelfoos on Aug 17, 2008 5:03 PM CDT reply actions
On a digital
a couple of good shots of Larry & Z
by nimblenikelfoos on Aug 17, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
so if you got them on your computer, you can just go to tinypic.com and upload them,
then copy the “html for websites” link, and paste it into a comment here. The picture will appear like magic!
Please do this, nimblenikelfoos...
… you could make a fanpost about them. That’d be very informative.
Glad to hear that they’re working on the issue.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Good To Hear
Nice detective work!
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
the shot of the dugout
was pretty cool, love seeing the players get just as excited as the fans……
couple things i noticed
lou had almost no reaction, which i’m amazed at…..don’t know if i could ever be that calm during a cubs game
and when rammy was sitting on second after the double, he looked like he was trying to play it cool and act like it was no big deal……so he looked like he was avoiding eye contact with the dugout, then when he finally did looked into the dugout he got this huge grin on his face haha….love it
OT Question:
When do they call a baseball game a tie? In this article w/ Woody theres this quote:
The Cubs entered Sunday’s game at 75-48, their best mark through 123 games since the 1969 team was 77-45-1. The Cubs have been better than 75-48 just twice in the last 70 seasons, also doing so in 1945. But they’re not going to win every game.
When does a game get called a tie?
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:11 PM CDT reply actions
Ah. Thanks.
I kept seeing tie counts in the “best starts” box but never knew who or where to ask what was up with that. :-)
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
The rules have been changed in the last couple of years...
… to avoid ties. In the past, many games were called for darkness (which is why you see more ties in the years pre-lights). After lights, you might see games called by rain which were tied at the time and beyond 5 innings.
Now, any such game (that’s tied and they give up due to rain) has to be suspended. There won’t be any more tie games.
The last Cubs tie was May 28, 1993 vs. the Expos.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
1-2-3 inning
MID 7th
Dodgers 4-1
Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!
Ethier Doubles
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
And that great OF defense by the Brewers rears its ugly head again
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
5-1 Dodgers!
Manny does it again!
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
Ramirez rbi single, 5-1 dodgers
"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.
Chip Caray
“I think its disgraceful that he [Ron Santo] isn’t in the hall of fame, hopefully the veteran’s committee will fix that”
:-)
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:31 PM CDT reply actions
Did he shout at innapropriate times while he said it?
Only then will I believe Chip Caray made that statement…
In all seriousness though, Ronnie deserves it, and I hope he’s in soon, while he’s living.
They were talking about Dodgers' pitcher Johnson whos a diabetic
and how impressive it is that Ronnie could do what he did without the new medical technology.
It was really classy.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
"BELTED!"
The ultimate Chip-ism.
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
SWUNG ON BELTED!!!!
Deep left center, the LF looks up and its GONE!!!!!
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
yea unfortunatly it probably wont happen until he dies
Its weird how that works, people get the respect they deserve after they arent even on earth to enjoy it… hopefully it is true that a spirit can see and enjoy things that are going on here on Earth after they are gone, because it is a shame that people like Ron Santo cant enjoy the praise and respect they deserve while they are still alive
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Mid 8th
5-1 Dodgers
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
I am so hungry, I think its peanut butter jelly time
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:45 PM CDT reply actions
5-1 Dodgers heading into the 9th
:-)
We’re 3 outs away from a 5.5 game lead again.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:47 PM CDT reply actions
Dodgers win
:-)
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Oops.
i thought the game was over… it was just a pitching change. Stoopid TBS.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Dammit I jinxed 'em.
2 & 3 1 out.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Go Dodgers .. thank God their Ace Eric Gagne
is in the other bullpen ..
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
Hope we never face that Japanese pitcher LA has ..
.. that guy owned the Cubs last time we saw him .. it surely wasn’t pretty
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
I think
you’re referring to Saito, who’s on the DL.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
by sweetswinger on Aug 17, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Or chan ho park?
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully
he wasn’t referring to Park, who’s Korean.
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh Timmers on Aug 18, 2008 1:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Asian Pitchers
Dodgers apparently have quite a few of them.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
by sweetswinger on Aug 17, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
5-3 Dodgers 2 outs
Now we’re 1 strike away from a 5.5 lead.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:00 PM CDT reply actions
Okay. Or not.
Tie game. Braun homers. 5-5.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry
i was half watching it… it seemed like ti was over.. Torre went out and got the ball from Johnson and then went to commerical and then back tot he studio.. I assumed it was over. My bad. :embarassed:
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
RYAN BRAUN SUCKS
and besides he has weird looking buggy eyes
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
haha..
he does look like a bug.. either that, or he’s TERRIFIED constantly… maybe he just doesn’t have any eyelids… and he’s pretty darn good. i hate that he’s such a good hitter for the division rival, but i can’t say he sucks..
by ThisIsResolute on Aug 18, 2008 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Understand That Bad Players Don't "Suck"
Typically I reserve my “you suck”s after an opposing player makes a great play, offensively or defensively. Or if the guy is flat out good. The guys that aren’t good typically don’t hurt the Cubs, so they don’t merit a “you suck” out of me.
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
Braun
Game tying two run HR on 0-2 pitch with two outs in 9th.
"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI
Drill Him Next At-Bat
Then his side will REALLY hurt!
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
Wow. Am i glad we won today
this game would be driving me nuts otherwise. LOL.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:02 PM CDT reply actions
Hi, folks
Way to yip the 3-inch putt, Dodgers. Sheesh.
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
Braun
is unreal, But Hey Chan Ho how about throwing that spinning slider in the dirt WHEN YOU HAVE HIM 0-2!!!!!!!!!!!! Jeez.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
He (Braun) Has A Bit Of The A-Hole In Him
the way he hot-dogs it around the bases.
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
I agree
I dislike the Brewers more than the Cards. Braun can rake, but an attitude. And whoever is agent is should be fired. Braun signed a ridiculously low ball contract, If I am no mistaken 5 years 14 million, something in that ballpark
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
think it was 8
years, wasn’t it?… not sure how many dollars… i wish someone would pay me millions of dollars to play the game i love.
by ThisIsResolute on Aug 18, 2008 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions
8 years $45M is cheap by today's standards
Braun is signed through 2015. He is scheduled to make only $12M in the final year of his contract. That will be pennies on a dollar by 2015.
His agent: is Nez Balelo of Paragon Sports, who also represents NYY pitcher Philip Hughes.
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
4 run 9th?
e-gad
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:06 PM CDT reply actions
It'll just make
the walk-off all the more dramatic and satisfying :-)
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
and crushing for the crew
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, yeah!
Psychic powers—I haz them.
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Loney got a double error
and then Park hanged a slider on an 0-2 pitch.
Glad we’re in first and not trying to play catch up.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
what was the quote by santo ....
when your in first it looks like 8 minutes and in 2nd eight miles?
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
wouldnt that be the same
if your driving 60 mph, lol jk
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Al had it the other day
“When you’re 8 games in first it looks like 8 inches, when you’re 8 games behind it looks like 8 miles.”
I think that was it.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
That makes more sense
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
that makes way more sense
hence why I agreed w/ the being in first comment
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's see the Dodgers walk off
in the bottom of the 29th inning. Brewers fly back to Milwaukee after the game and are home tomorrow night.
Dang, you could play handball
off Fielder’s back
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
Love it!
…umm…we don’t play the Dodgers any more in the regular season, right?
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
NOW
the dodgers win!!
2 run walk off!
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:12 PM CDT reply actions
I gotcher walk-off
…right here, boy!
MWAH HAHAHAHAHA!!!
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
DODGERS WIN!!!
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
In Randy Newman we trust
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Randy Newman
wrote a song that said “Short people have no reason to live” and everyone thought he was serious. Then he wrote a song that said “I love LA” and everyone thought he was joking.
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
by Josh Timmers on Aug 18, 2008 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions
You do?
Really? I haven’t been to LA in seven years, used to go often when my grandmother was alive (she died in 2001). Haven’t been back. Haven’t missed it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I do
It’s the pan asian, north-south demographic mix that I find fascinating, alongside the high-low culture. Because of this It’s an uniquely American city. It has it’s downsides, to be sure (not least celebrity worship), but overall, it’s the LA cultural amalgam that I find most intriguing.
It Can Be A Very Shallow Place
More emphasis placed on style over substance, and the facade over the underlying structure. Sort of an “impress me, or get out of my way” attitude. But once you look around enough and discover people who are real, then it’s not too bad a place to live.
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
wow
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I love seeing this!
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
andif you listen closely...
you can hear fielder sigh and pass gas
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:14 PM CDT reply actions
200 birds
lose their lives in the blast
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
5.5 up on Brewers. 7.5 up on cards.
and a well deserved off day. :-)
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:14 PM CDT reply actions
lol
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd rather discuss the suckage of Bob Howry...
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Marquis as a 5th starter?
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh my...
..not gonna let it go, huh? LOL
(And I’m literally laughing out loud!)
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
or wondering
why he keeps putting the steal sign on
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
gasp...
u did it…sackings shows up like a genie that had his lamp rubbed!
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
well, my first wish is for him to go away, lol
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
your my new favorite person on here!!! lol
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
preacherman
your not insulted by my comparision of the Theriot and Marquis debates to politics and religion are you? B/c that would be the last thing I’d want to do
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I figured that... but I wanted to be respectful and check.
there are lots of other examples out of there one could use otherwise. those are just the common ones
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Seinfield reference? lol
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI
I think him not replying to your message says it all, Madison
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
other he's so offended he's not speaking to her
or its just not a big issue.:-P
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
prolly
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
you offended a preacher on Sunday...shame shame
:)
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
its cool,
i had to take off quick, i was almost late to church…lol
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
your cool
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
not insulted at all...
but id rather discuss theriot and marquis while on here, lol
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that always works out well.
Generally it goes like this:
Con: Theriot sucks at running the bases.
Pro: …shut the hell up!
Not a whole lot of “discussion” there.
Where have you seen that sort of argument?
I admit, there have been less than logical arguments in favor of Theriot, but not like that.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
it tends to be on the order of
“look at his batting average!”
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty much this whole thread.
Calling people “Debbie Downers” because they question Ryan Theriot’s ability to steal bases (when to be quite frank it sure feels like an open-and-shut case of “he’s not very able”) doesn’t really feel like a discussion.
My personal favorite response was
sorry,
i just like theriot. so im gonna defend him. if he wants to point out all the bad things about one person, let him, all the while EVERYONE has something that they could probably work on…no one on this team is perfect. think of the bad stuff this could do to the clubhouse if we put cedeno in as a starter…it might split the clubhouse
honestly
I’m not even sure what that means.
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Obviously the poster has inside knowledge
about the deep rut in the clubhouse that would be a result of a better player taking over the SS job. Could this be the guy who works for Ryan Theriot?
What really annoys me is, all the way through September last year, the offseason, spring training...
….we heard about how Cedeno couldn’t possibly be our starting shortstop, because of his “low baseball IQ” and lack of fundamental play. Now that Theriot is exhibiting a low baseball IQ and bad fundamental play, we’re supposed to ignore all of that because he’s producing, and we’re supposed to use a narrow definition of producing that’s tailored to what Ryan Theriot is good at.
look how dirty his uni gets!
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
which explains why
there’s no muscle in his arms! :{
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
alright...
you guys wanna call me out on my post??
Theriot has a better fielding percentage than cedeno at shortstop (source (baseball reference.com) given, theriot has obviously gotten ALOT more play there…but in his limited play, he still hasnt shown lou that he is head and shoulders a better option, as you have said. and the CS problem…if he is so horrible, why does lou give him the greenlight? when you have such a great lineup batting after him.
also…i think that it was pretty jerky to say that just because i said something, that i have “inside information”, and “inside knowledge”. i think that it would be pretty safe to say that alot of players might be torn about who should be the starting SS. it COULD be an issue!
cedeno is not that much of a better, if at all, than theriot. he might steal bases at a better rate. (but he only has 4sb, 1 cs) but i think that this could be fixed, or at least brought to acceptable with theriot.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Theriot was a respectable 28 of 32 SB last year
Something’s just not clicking with his wheels this year
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
Yah...but.....
How many hits get thru the left side when the riot is out there that ONEDEC might likely make a play on?
The best defense is a good offense
This debate reminds me of SNK Baseball Stars
where some players have higher ratings in hitting (batting average), batting (power/home runs), running (base running speed) and defense (defensive running and throwing skills).
There were also luck and “prestige points” or money points.
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
Who hit the walk off?
Who was pitching for the Suds?
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
Eithier
I dunno who was on the bump.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Villenueva(sp?)
Either hit the walk off
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI
Confirmed
Ethier off Villanueva
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
hey hey HBCG :)
How about them Cubs today!
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI
:-)
Great job from Demps don’t ya think? :-)
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
CY Dempster? we’ll see
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI
to think I thought him in the starting rotation was a mistake
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
You and me both
I thought it was disaster waiting to happen.
Waiter? Another helping of crow, please?
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
i know
i was unsure whether he’d be any good… but he’s got WAY better stuff than I ever realized.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
This is why I like our Cubs
Bullpen, minus Howrys ups and downs, mostly downs, Cubs have a solid pen, and the Brewers don’t
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
We have the deepest pitching the bigs I think.
Some teams may be better at the front or back ends, but we have the most quality arms, I think.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
1989 Cub Pitching Was Decent
Team ERA around 3.4, no?
Still I dig what you’re saying re: 1970. Four very reliable and durable starters, unlike the 1984 staff that all hit the DL the following year and the brittle front end of the 2003-2004 rotation.
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
Name more than 4 pitchers from that team....
off the top of your head w/o looking it up…..
The best defense is a good offense
Game On!
1970: Fergie Jenkins, Kenny Holtzman, Bill Hands, Milt Pappas, Joe Decker, Phil Regan, Larry Gura, Jim Colborn, Ted Abernathy
1984: Rick Sutcliffe, Steve Trout, Dennis Eckersley, Scott Sanderson, Dick Ruthven, Lee Smith, Tim Stoddard, Warren Brusstar, Rich Bordi
1989: Greg Maddux, Rick Sutcliffe, Mike Bielecki, Steve Wilson, Paul Kilgus, Calvin Schiraldi, Mitch Williams
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
I thought Les Lancaster
Piched all innins not pitched by wild thing, madddux, Sutcliffe or Bielecki
The best defense is a good offense
Is it wrong to find pleasure
In seeing the Red Sox get thier punkasses kicked 15-4?
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI
Nah, it's ok
i was at Fenway a couple of weeks ago for a game. they are all reallll cocky over there now. they’re all look, “ooh look at us, we won the world series”, yada yada,
they also have the audacity to have a sign there that says “Welcome to Fenway Park, AMERICA’S MOST BELOVED BALLPARK”
what??
also, that place is old and decrepit. it makes Wrigley Field look like the Space Shuttle.
by nervousCUBlover on Aug 17, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Im no Yankee fan
But Ill tell you this….
Im so sick of the Yankees/Red Sox crap.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI
+1 googol
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
that actual spelling of "googol" has been quite long forgotten!
by nervousCUBlover on Aug 17, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
And it's my job
as a math teacher, to never let it be forgotten :-)
My job is done here…(rides off into the sunset)
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
really?
i find the whole thing fascinating.
And it makes me appreciate our rivals (the cards) much more. At least we can hate the other team w/o being jackasses about it.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
The Red Sox are like dirt poor people that just won the lottery (twice)
… and don’t know how to handle it…
as opposed to, myself, who, around October 30, 2008, will celebrate the Cubs Championship with a quiet dignity consisting of a 3 week binge of arson, cocaine, champagne, tequilla, high priced hookers, major damage to several hotel rooms, after which I will emerge sometime around Thanksgiving, still, with a huge grin on my face.
by nervousCUBlover on Aug 17, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Me...it'll be that long until
I pick my jaw off the floor from the shock of the Cubs winning it all.
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I Will Finally Be Able To Watch The Cubs In Peace
No pacing around, no slamming the TV when they lose, no worrying about what the Cards and Brewers are up to, and no more agonizing over why things happened the way they did in 2003, 1984, 1969….
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
I just want
the commemorative DVD to watch. Over and over and over and over.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
OH NO!! What would ESPN do
If The Yankees AND Red Sox miss the playoffs?
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI
they will have no more baseball tonight!
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably become ESPN Classic 2
and show reruns of Boston or Skankees matchups
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
ugh.
they’d focus on the cubs… which i think would be awful. I LIKE flying under the radar and being expected to win day to day.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt that
Probably the Dodgers…. who Id love to see win the NL West btw.
Arizona scares me
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI
I hate the short series...
but no one really scares me. Z/Harden/Demps thats a pretty good 3 headed monster.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
yep
Nice to see road wins and comebacks too. I’m feeling good right now
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 17, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone interested In chatting?
Im not doing much tonight Id love to chat up some baseball if your interested:
IM ME on AIM at ChicagoCubs316
or Galvan316 on yahoo..
Id love to hear from ya!
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI
"Anyone" meaning "halfblindcubbiegirl", of course.
:)
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Let the record show
That carmen fanzone made that comment
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI
just tell me I'm wrong...hahaha.
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Why because I asked people to im me?
Doesnt make much sense to me
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI
don't worry
she can only sort of read. :-P
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I tend more to giggle at it then be creeped out
but I am also guessing being female has something to do with that.
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah, the internet
Where the men are men, the women are men, and really cute teenagers are FBI agents
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not creepy, cubswynn
Galvan doesn’t hide his love for HBCG
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you mother stutter?
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
you put "my mother said" twice...
…without anything after it….
or my computer is hiccuping…
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
yep, it was...
just refreshed…..D’oh
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
i might be around on yahoo later… but frankly I’m probably going to avoid the computer most of the night.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
and by "computer" she means "galvan"
Just kidding you two lovebirds!!! :) (Suddenly in a real silly mood, must be that full game we just gained!)
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
yay for a silly carmen. much better than grumpy carmen…:-)
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
true dat
plus I like the fact we’re facing the Reds and Nats this week….. :)
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep. The Reds w/o Adam Dunn too.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
And no Griffey
And no Volquez
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Do we miss Volquez?
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Believe so
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
He hasn't been as near as dominating the 2nd half..
…but we’ll take it.
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Confirmed
He pitched today, so we won’t see him in this series
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
awesome
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
And even better
we face Arroyo
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Who all do we get?
Cueto, Arroyo and?
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Fogg?
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Harang
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I didnt think that was pretty nice :(
Im just kinda lonely, and wanted to chat with some Cubs fans
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI
just teasing ya, Galvan...
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
awww poor galvan
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Its not you.
I just need to save my eyes. Too much computer time = migraines.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I can relate to that
I was just looking for peeps to chat with…. If you imed me cool…. But I was just looking for someone to chat with.
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI
I know.
I just wanted you to know it wasn’t personal.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
she's an umpire
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
BOOM, BABY!
LOL!
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
not rude.
I’m legally blind in my left eye & blind in my right eye.
I only put it in my screen name b/c I have a tendency to make blind jokes and the last board I was on I got flamed for “being mean to blind people” and frankly it was irritating.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
yep.
no problem.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Do You Use a Voice-Prompt Computer
that verbalizes the content for you?
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
I do have a screen reader
but for the most part its a bigger hassle than its worth for me. I use large print & reading glasses.
I see decently enough out of my left eye to read.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds Good
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
I wondered myself
I kind of wondered myself and thank you for telling us.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
an interesting fanpost would be where did you pick your screen name
we talk to each other all the time. something simple like that I’ve ponder on many occosions.
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:39 PM CDT reply actions
that'd be a fun off day thread.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
My real name is Carmen Fanzone
I played for the Cubs in the early 70’s.
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay, not really...
….I started watching the Cubs in the 70’s as a kid and picked one of the more unfamous players that I can remember. It was between this and Tom Dettore.
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
my license plate is soon to be
cubswyn (since cubswin was already taken)
not sure why i added an extra n to this, i think cubswyn was taken already
You could try
CUB5WIN or CU65WIN or CUBSW1N
Just a thought
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
oh i think i wasn't clear
i choice cubswynn for my screen name bc my new license plate is gonna be cubswyn….i wanted cubswin for my license plate, but it was already taken
Online screen names
are about the closest I will get to affording a vanity plate
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
really?
they are really cheap in iowa
first time fee is $25
and every year after that they are only $5 more to renew
Hmmm...
I’ll check AZ prices.
Still, I’m a teacher…with children…and a budget. (sigh)
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Not in Illinois
where the numerals must come after the letters. A lot of states allow numerals and letters to be intermingled though.
CALIfornia CUB fan
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
August
What I love about August is that after the Cubs spanked the Brewers at the end of July, the Brewers have played good baseball, gone .688 in August and find themselves a half game further behind the Cubs. It has to be frustrating to play good ball and yet lose ground.
-Charlemagne
Frustrating
Yes they must be frustrated. Too bad so sad.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Chinese Food tonight
Woo….
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI
Yuck
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI
Then you would hate
deep-fried Oreos
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't a fair come up with
deep-fried Coca-Cola a few years back? I don’t remember how they did it, but still…
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Outback Trumps All
We’re leaving in 15 minutes!
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
Outback
Yes I know you don’t make friends with salad but I love the salad with blue cheese and pecans.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
twss
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
BTW: Galvan316
Galvan (my last name) and 316 (just a number)
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI
Aramis is spanish for clutch
he wears 16.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
So
Aramis was known as ‘the clutch Musketeer’? ;-)
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
You've been driving a car with a stick since you were 16?
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
TWSS
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
WTF is Chris Singleton smoking?
The most impressive performance he’s seen is Mark Buerhle’s No hitter? 8 Walks is impressive? What the hell is that
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI
Mark Guehrle Threw A No-No Today?
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
No last year
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI
Screenname
I used to be cubbiegirlshamus everywhere which combines Trixie Belden and the Cubs. (Trixie aka schoolgirl shamus)
Kerrysotherwife came from people saying I must be married to Kerry because I kept defending him on other forums.
My current was hoping the Cubs would be in the series before 100 years.
Go Cubs
Trixie As In The Lincoln Park Variety?
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
NO
No. Trixie is a mystery series like Nancy Drew but she was 13 when it began.
My nickname for Ryan Dempster has a Trixie connection. I call him “Jim” because in the books Trixie’s special friend is a green eyed redhead like Ryan.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Gotcha
I wanted to make sure before I asked you about your VW Jetta and your three-wheeled baby stroller and how much money your stockbroker boyfriend-husband makes. LOL
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
Speaking "personal nicknames" for players
When DeRo was a Brave, one ex’s mother liked to call him “Pon”.
I may never forgive her for that pun.
Trixie Belden?
Since we both know who she is, that must mean…well, we’re old, lol
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
She like WGN is 60 this year.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
And I
am forty-COUGHCOUGH next month
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
40
Turned 40 on July 7th.
Read the books faithfully as a child and still love them today.
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Grew up on
Hardy Boys, Danny Dunn and Encyclopedia Brown, myself
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I was weird
I prefered the Hardy Boys to the perfect Nancy Drew even though I’m a girl but Trixie rules!
I belong to an extensive Trixie fan group. We have an annual convention type event and when we drove by a group in a parking lot obviously drunk as skunks and acting badly we called it “Must be Nancy Drew convention”
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Or
the Bobbsey Twins Convention ;-)
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
YES! Encyclopedia Brown!
Oh that Bugs Meany used to give him fits, but Leroy always triumphed in the end.
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
No Brains Benton?
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Aug 18, 2008 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Chat
One time in a Cubs forum eons ago we went into a chat room and tried to guess who each other was because we went in with other names.
Go Cubs
Can anyone tell me
Why the Phillies vs Padres game is Sunday Night Baseball tonight??
What the hell is that
"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager
"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08
SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI
So Cub fans
aren’t subjected to Joe Morgan yet again
"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)
by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Because
Because if they didn’t show Padres vs Phillies the terrorists win!
Actually the real reason Phelps isn’t swimming tonight is they knew that Phillies/Padres was so compelling nobody would watch!
Go Cubs
by puckishcubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Great Pic
Way to go Dodgers!
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
Weird thought
Weird thought of the day for me. I wonder how many players know the anthem having heard it a zillion times?
Go Cubs
A great team
win today. I love this team.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
YO YO
Who’s still here? Missed the whole game, tried to read most of these 500 comments.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
How you doin?
Watchin Olympics…as usual…
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
What'd you think of the game?
Is this Theriot discussion that big of a deal? Did Demp look solid? And is Rammy alright?
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Demp made one mistake
Rammy looked very good — and very relieved — to be hitting again.
The Riot discussion is eternal, and I didn’t even get involved in it this time.
The game was frakkin’ GREAT!
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Just kiddin', drew
Where do you live, BTW? Illinois?
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Melrose Park, baby
Near-Western Chicago suburbs
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm a ways off
Google Maps tells me it’s a 719 mile drive from here to Wrigley, but only a 4 mile drive to Turner Field.
I just checked
Google Maps tells me Kansas is far from Chicago.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Greasy Fast Food and Aspirin
Both good for a hanover.
"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl
In-And-Out
Careful. . . I live in Valencia, CA too :)
No, not yet.
I’m fairly certain I’m going to pursue a minor in statistical research. I’ve only taken intro, meta-analysis, and ANOVA so far, and am taking regression this fall, and probably multivariate and maybe factor analysis next semester. Then it gets fun with hierarchical linear modeling and structural equation modeling.
So, no, factor analysis to come soon. Why, what you working on?
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Fielding scouting reports.
Got ratings of different fielders for different skills (instincts, first step, arm strength, throw accuracy, etc.) and trying to cut down on the number of variables I’m working with in the regression analysis. (Some things are so highly correlated with each other, like first step and speed, that it gives the regression model fits.)
I’ve done a factor analysis in GNU R that I think looks right (it seems to group the skills into groups that make sense from a baseball perspective) but was curious about a few things. I’ll do some more reading and see if I can get Pizza Cutter to help me out with the rest.
Yeah, sorry.
Bout one semester over my head at this point, and a semester of 900 level courses is a lot of learning. I read a good few articles on factor analysis every month, but am not knowledgeable on how to do them myself quite yet.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Whatup homefrizzles
Just got back from dinner… see I was slandered by my boy preacherman and that bum cubswynn for my Theriot logic. That argument is officially a nonstarter w/ me from here on out. I swear off all Theriot debate, and you can all hold me too that.
The problem w/ swearing off the Theriot debate is that you never know when one is going to start
usually I’ll say “hm, I figured Theriot would get a day off here” and then I suddenly get called a Theriot hater. The whole thing is pretty ridiculous.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
yes, yes it is. You are not allowed to make a valid argument against him, because
then you are a debbie downer, or a Theriot hater, etc. Yet these same people love to jump on Soriano, an actual good hitter…. I just don’t get it.
So I’ll rephrase my original point: I’ll attempt to stay out of all Theriot related arguments from here on out. If I see anything that’s just too ridiculous, it may be hard to pass up.
hmmm...that lasted all of 28 minutes
just couldn’t stay away from the topic, heh?
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
slandered? really?
be a little bit more sensitive why don’t you
obviously the debbie downer title is a sore subject for you or maybe it “hurts so bad” bc there is some truth to it
i said it once before and i’ll say it again…..i don’t even really disagree with your argument, however i just think coming on here and immediately bashing any cub right after a great win is being a debbie downer
and i like how you say in one breath that i’m not allowed to call you a debbie downer bc you’re expressing your opinion and in the next breath call me a bum for expressing an opinion about you
finally i’m the biggest supported of sori i know, so i hope that wasn’t directed at me
Not sure there was a lot of "slandering"...
It’s pretty open, and just because Riot is a hotly debated topic doesn’t mean that one has to take offense to not agreeing with one’s point of view. Looks like it’s been mostly discussion so far.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
sorry, i didnt mean to flame you...
i was pretty angry…
apologies…
this was the first time i ever involved myself in a theriot debate, and i didnt know what i was getting myself into…
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
wasn't it a
double steal today?? that makes me think that is was a Lou call,,not just Riot taking off on his own.
I'm a reader not a poster, but I'm also a poster so don't get any ideas.
I wonder if
Lou talked about it in the post-game press room. Seems like no one here got a very good look at Lee, so we can’t tell if he was running from the pitch, or if he was watching Riot.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
its a valid ? that might
get asked in the post game…..40 minutes till I can catch sportsnite…
I'm a reader not a poster, but I'm also a poster so don't get any ideas.
Not to be a Debbie Downer, but Theriot's basestealing...
…is bad. And that’s important.
In a 5 RPG environment, the value of a SB is roughly 0.195 runs. A CS is -0.486 runs. (I’m working on getting some better linear weights values together, but that’ll do for now.)
18 * .195 = 3.51 runs
13*-.486 = -6.318 runs
Total = -2.808 runs
Which, well, for a guy that’s 2.6 runs above average in hitting…
As for the “Was it a double steal or wasn’t it?” the question is almost academic. Either Theriot is a bad basestealer and wildly selfish, or Theriot is a bad basestealer and Lou is an idiot. Note the common factor between those two options!
For comparative purposes, will you run the same numbers for 2006 Cedeno
when he was the starting SS and was caught stealing 8 times in 16 attempts?
I know Cedeno batted 245 / .271 / .339 in 2006 (the last year he had a starting role in the lineup).
Is the argument that Cedeno would be a better candidate for starting SS this season or that the Cubs need to find a SS this off-season?
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
Didn't James say that steals are irrelevant...
…in the long-run and shouldn’t be used, especially when an out is at stake?
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I don't believe he did.
And to be honest the work that I do follows a lot more of Pete Palmer than Bill James, so I’m not the right person to ask.
The stolen base can be valuable, if you’re good at it. And the lower the run environment, the more valuable the steal is. The reason you saw a lot more stolen bases years ago wasn’t because they were dumber then, necessarily, but because they were a much more valuable play in that context.
-2.8 runs
Good to know people are really getting up in arms over such an ENORMOUS number. I’ll bet the Cubs don’t even make the playoffs because Theriot sucks so bad.
by dr stabbingworth on Aug 18, 2008 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions
you're missing the point.
People talk about how great Riot is because of his OBP, and how many runs he scores being driven in by Lee, Rami, Soto, etc.
That statistic translates into about 2.6 runs.
However, his caught-stealing rate costs the team about 2.8 runs.
That, combined with his poor power, his weak arm, and his inability to get to balls through the left side illustrates that Ryan Theriot costs the team runs.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 18, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
but is he the lesser of two evils? or should he be moved to the 8 hole?
My take is we’re winning with him in the lineup. Now is not the time to experiment with a change or platoon system at SS or batting order.
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
I don't disagree wtih that
although it’s not like Lou ever has a lineup locked in stone.
At this point, I think the best we can hope for is that Cedeno has a VERY good off-season, and excels at ST next year, and takes the job away from Riot — something he is perfectly capable of doing.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 18, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe
Until he proves that he can play at the ONEDEC level every day, then Theriot is a better player. I see flashes of brilliance in Cedeno, and then he overslides second base on a walk. I am a strong believer in sabermetrics, however, Cedeno has not proved (or been given the chance to prove) that he can perform at a high level day in and day out.
I think Lou would have given Cedeno the chance to play every day if he thought he deserved it. Clearly Lou doesn’t think that. He barely plays Cedeno. Since I don’t know nearly as much as Lou, I think I’m going to trust him on this one.
by dr stabbingworth on Aug 18, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok Theriot had a rough day
And likely won’t be stealing any bases soon. He gets on base way too often and needs to bridle his enthusiasm. Enuf said for now. Hey how about that Reed Johnson……..thank you Bluejays!!!
ha
well, it’s amazing how much complaining there can be after a pretty awesome 5-1 roadtrip. also amazing how ppl can rip on Theriot after he goes 8 for 23, 2 RBI, 1 SB on said six game road trip. but he got caught stealing!!! OMG!! bench him. and D-Lee too! I saw him ground into a DP.
some people just need to calm down. I, for one, thoroughly enjoyed the last six games.
by PrincetonCubs on Aug 17, 2008 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
nothing directed at you, btw
I just finished reading all the comments as well, that’s all :)
by PrincetonCubs on Aug 17, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I understand.
I declared myself Switzerland in the Great Theriot Wars weeks ago. I readily recognize his glaring shortcomings as a baseball player, but I don’t think he’s going anywhere. So I’m going to abstain from arguing about him with anyone. In any case, today was a great day to be a Cubs fan – that’s for sure.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by daver on Aug 17, 2008 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
great statement
"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
+1 more, Princeton
Like just about any internet forum, seems there are people who could stand to add “let’s agree to disagree” to their vocabulary.
(JMODO)
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 18, 2008 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions
That was Bob Brenly's description.
I kinda liked it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Last!
Man, I’m just sooo thrilled to get the last post…
P.S. I hate off days. Can’t they do an intrasquad game or something?
"I don't know what I'm talking about, and I'm pretty sure you don't either." -David Letterman to Bill O'Reilly
8-Run Inning
That was sweet to get an 8-run inning against the Marlins to take the lead and win the game.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
Great road trip
Who isn’t stoked that we went 5-1 on a trip, where I sort of thought we’d go 3-3 before it began.
28 games over .500 – how totally awesome is THAT!
Aaaaand now we play 9 games against the worst the NL has to offer – the Reds, Nats and Pirates. Time to fatten up, Cubbies, while the Brewers get the Astros, Pirates and Cardinals over the same period.
If we can stretch that record to 35 games over .500, I think it would be fantastic! Let’s let the Brewers keep playing catch up – winning, but not making up any ground!
Is there really only 6 weeks left of the regular season?
I feel like every summer and season goes faster. I’m starting to plan my ST trip in March. The next 6-10 weeks could be some unbelievable times.
Couldn’t ask for anything more than a 5-1 road trip. Nice to see the bullpen has gotten back on track, what an addition the Shark has been thus far.
Enjoy the day off!
Lets do it Cubbies
Silly sign
Did anyone notice the Marlins fan (an oxymoron) holding the Completely Useless By September sign? Yeah, haha, funny maybe 15 years ago.
also,
funny when the fish are getting blown out.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 18, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
and when "Completely" is spelled wrong on the sign
it said “Completly”
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Completly
Yeah, I forgot about that. Len made a dismissive but funny comment.
There’s a south FL joke in there somewhere, but I’ll let it go.
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