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A Going-Away Present: Cubs 9, Marlins 2

The Cubs beat the Marlins 9-2 this afternoon, winning the series (their sixth straight series win), the season series from the Marlins 4-3, and said goodbye to south Florida for 2008 (Note to Mets and Phillies: please keep the Marlins in third place!) -- and good riddance.

I mean, seriously: a rain delay when it's not raining? And yes, I well remember the non-rain delay on August 23, 1999 at Wrigley Field, when at game time, 7:05, it wasn't raining but the field stayed covered until it DID start raining at 9:15, at which time they called the game. That game, which had a sellout crowd, had to be made up as a conventional single-admission doubleheader two days later, costing the Cubs about $1 million in ticket sales (based on 1999 prices) and likely costing Ed Lynch his job. Today, they delayed the start about 20 minutes, keeping the field covered, because they thought a storm might drift over the park. It never did.

This game didn't start out propitiously for the Cubs -- they kept leaving runners on base, shades of last night, five left on in the first three innings. And let me say right now: I like Ryan Theriot's attitude and hustle. But seriously, he has to stop stealing bases, or trying to, because his 58% success rate (18 SB, 13 CS) is horrid. And what was he thinking, trying to steal third with nobody out in a scoreless game in the third inning? Even Bob Brenly, who nearly always praises Theriot, ripped him for doing that. While Theriot is having a nice year via BA and OBA, what little power he showed last year (30 doubles) is gone (only 16 so far this year). A few days off wouldn't hurt.

Meanwhile, Ryan Dempster was throwing a nice game; his first mistake wasn't really his, it was Alfonso Soriano's, for not playing Cody Ross' high drive off the wall correctly. Thinking he could catch the ball, instead it took a Fenway-like bounce away from him for a triple. If Ross is held at second, maybe he doesn't score, because the next two hitters made outs (a shoestring catch by Kosuke Fukudome helped), and maybe the Cubs then give Hanley Ramirez an intentional walk and get out of the inning. In any case, it was just one run, and Dempster gave up another one on a walk and a double in the sixth, but then got out of the inning with only one more run scoring. In the interim, Soriano had played the next ball hit off the goofy scoreboard in Miami well, and it looked like he had thrown Ramirez out at second base, but it appeared the umpire was out of position to see Mike Fontenot tag him on the leg before it reached the base. No harm, because no runs scored in that inning.

And then the Cubs exploded in the seventh, and once again, everyone contributed; the Marlins' Renyel Pinto, so good early in the year, had an 18.00 ERA in five August appearances coming into this game with six walks in three innings, and after Mike Fontenot and Reed Johnson had started the inning with hits, for some reason, Fredi Gonzalez left Pinto in to throw to four straight right-handed hitters, with predictable results: he walked Mark DeRosa, then Soriano doubled in the tying runs (past a sliding Luis Gonzalez, who might have been able to make that play five years ago, but not at two weeks shy of age 41), one out later -- for some inexplicable reason -- Gonzalez ordered Derrek Lee walked intentionally to pitch to Aramis Ramirez with the bases loaded.

Now, we all love D-Lee, but seriously, who would YOU rather face with the bases loaded? In his career, prior to today, Lee is .214/.254/.491 with 8 HR with the bases loaded; A-Ram is .337/.336/.625 with 7 HR (that's not a misprint of the OBA there -- he's got 14 bases-loaded sac flies, and 7 bases-loaded walks). Anyway, we're all glad the Marlins chose to face Ramirez, who smacked a double down the line just out of reach of third baseman Jorge Cantu, breaking the tie to give the Cubs a 4-2 lead. Ramirez, incidentally, now seems fine after that minor shakeup Thursday night in Atlanta.

The best part of watching that was seeing the close-up replay of the dugout with all the Cubs watching intently, then exploding into cheers, led by Johnson and Henry Blanco (who eventually got into the game, and singled and scored, raising his career-best BA to .292), when the ball skipped into left field. It's cool to know that they're rooting that hard for their teammates.

And then, after a sac fly by Dome, two more walks (one intentional, one drawn by ONEDEC!), Johnson (who finished 4-for-5 today and is now batting .314), batting for the second time in the inning, drove a ball to the wall in left-center, clearing the bases and finishing the 8-run inning, the 22nd time the Cubs have scored five or more runs in an inning, far and away the most in the NL (the Phillies with 17 are 2nd).

Dempster got a deserved win, his 14th (one short of his career best), with the offensive outburst and Neal Cotts, Jeff Samardzija and Carlos Marmol finished up without incident, throwing three innings of one-hit relief.

So the Cubs are back to .500 on the road at 31-31, and finish up a 5-1 road trip, their best multicity trip of the year (I say "multicity" because the four-game sweep at Milwaukee, a single-city trip, was also outstanding). Goodbye to Miami and that silly mosquito mascot. We await the result of today's Brewers-Dodgers game, at this writing led by the Dodgers 3-0 in the second after two first-inning homers, to see if the Cubs will go into the off-day up by 4.5 or 5.5 games.

Great series, great trip. Enjoy the off-day tomorrow.

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and damn, are you fast. Whoo hool cubs win.

"Don't worry, Joey. We'll go next year. They're in the World Series all the time" ---My grandfather to my sick father, October 10, 1945

by flyingdonut on Aug 17, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thought you guys might like a fast recap.

Figured once it got to 8-2, I could start writing.

What a terrific road trip!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 17, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no jinxing it!

Cubs fans started singing in the ballpark, and Marmol promptly threw six or seven balls in a row.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True enough.

Maybe he needs to pitch in tenser situations.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 17, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For Sure

I’m a bit uneasy with all the ‘W’ flags being waived before the game is over too. I don’t think I’m superstitious but why tempt fate?

And so it goes.

by Luigi on Aug 17, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

It drives me crazy when people unfurl the W flags before the win is secured. Singing “Go Cubs Go” was over the line, too. All’s well that ends well, though, I suppose.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 17, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

even len pointed that out

w/ the always fun line “I’m not superstitious, but” lol

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I heard that.

I have neighbors who fly the W flag outside their houses. That’s great and all, but I go crazy when they leave the flag up after a Cubs loss. I’ve seriously considered donning my ninja gear and taking a few of them down. Fortunately, that won’t be necessary today.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 17, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or, perhaps...

Al’s well that ends well?

by Emelie on Aug 17, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That works.

Or maybe “Al’s well when all ends well.”

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 17, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Both Well Played

LOL

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Technically...

…. if you listen to the lyrics, the fans were singing the song at the perfect time. The Cubs are gonna win today. I’ve always thought it was silly to sing that after they’ve already won.

If Red Auerbach (sp?) were a Cub fan, he’d have been lit up already.

Dome-san!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 18, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I did forget to change it. I’ll fix it now.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 17, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

holy cow!

that was fast.

"I'm like the tide baby: I come and go as I please." --Johnny Drama

by cubs2234 on Aug 17, 2008 3:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

twoth!

awesome 7th!

a win is a win.

by JoToPo on Aug 17, 2008 3:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Al:

why so long to post the recap?

slowing down in your old age?

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 17, 2008 3:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LMAO

I did have to wait for the last out! Marmol made me wait a whole extra batter!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 17, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW, we are the same age.

how great is it to have the Cubs at .500 on the road AND to do it against the Fish!!

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 17, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You bet.

It does look like they finally have the Florida monkey off their back. Great series.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 17, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably because I didn't go this time :(

Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman

by NotSure on Aug 17, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you catch?

Did you catch the morning news on 7? They talked about the new Cubs book and showed your picture. Was giving the dog a bath when heard it.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Aug 17, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was promoted on yesterday's game thread.

I was the one who got Will booked on the show.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 17, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops

I was tied up in and out all day. Was supposed to go to gencom but someone screwed up the hotel reservations.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Aug 17, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dang that was fast!

Well the Cubs don’t pay Fonzi for his glove but for his bat and he came through with a double to tie it up and set up Reed Johnson who put it away for us.

And Theroit needs to work on his dancing feet. But with a win like this and 2 out of 3 in Flordia I’m a happy guy.

Baseball is too much of a sport to be a business and too much of a business to be a sport.
William Wrigley Jr

by bubbamike the one and only on Aug 17, 2008 3:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fonzi

made some decent catches. And you don’t often see him go back to the wall and jump. I was pleased to see him do that, even if he didn’t make the play. And the second time it was hit off the wall, he played it PERFECTLY. That runner was OUT at second.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ramirez WAS out.

That play didn’t cost them a run, but the first one may have.

In any case, all’s well that ends well.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 17, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Theriot

I didn’t like the attempted steal (or the caught stealing!) either – but was that Teriot’s decision? I thought it was a double-steal, and assumed it came from the bench to try to get them kick-started.

Al is right thought, that his percentages are aweful.

a win is a win.

by JoToPo on Aug 17, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Len and Bob thought

that Riot did it on his own, and Lee was just paying attention.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Theriot went on his own...

… then someone has to stop him.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 17, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

absolutely

a win is a win.

by JoToPo on Aug 17, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

he hasn’t shown anything close enough to good basestealing skills to be going on his own.

by LT on Aug 17, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll bet

Theriot thinks he can dunk too!

""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone

by kentmeister on Aug 17, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For a good 1/2 to 3/4's of this season

I have screamed: DON’T STEAL, THERIOT. Fat lot good it does. One would think one would learn from experience, but nooooo.

by Emelie on Aug 17, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we could procure

a sniper rifle from somewhere. (:P)

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

with foam bullets

just enough to get his bleeping attention, or maybe one of those t-shirt guns…

by Emelie on Aug 17, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just tell him

that Z will be waiting in the dugout for him if he gets CS. That should stop him.

by Archie on Aug 18, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Based on the replay..........

………..it looked like this came from the dugout. Seemed Lee broke at the same time as Theriot, so I’d say Lou has to accept the blame.

After last night’s poor showing, suspect he was looking to shake things up early.

"Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle." ~ George Burns

by tville on Aug 17, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, looked like a double steal....

Can’t fault Riot too much, though he got a horrible jump…

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well then

you actually can fault him.

The Theriot apologists are astounding. If you need a single with nobody on, he’s fine. But he does absolutely nothing else well.

by Leon Durham on Aug 17, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bat Him 8th

and move DeRo/Fonty to 2nd in the order?

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Nice Thing About Theriot Batting 8th

is that, assuming he gets on and the pitcher either gets on or makes only the 1st/2nd out, Soriano has an RBI opportunity.

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even better

Move DeRo to second, bat Cedeno 8th, and bench Theriot

by Leon Durham on Aug 17, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can Cedeno Match Theriot's OBP

given the same number of at bats?

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The thing is,

Cedeno’s glove is better, and he’s widely considered to be a much better hitter. He may not post the same OBP, but will hit with some pop.

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe, maybe not

Riot can NOT, however, match Cedeno’s power.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

quite.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

seems to me that

theriot does a hell of a job getting on base before the heart of the order comes up……..thats what we need in the 2 hole.

by cubsmania on Aug 17, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and then getting thrown out on a botched steal.

sorry. couldn’t resist. I’ll sit down now.

by Emelie on Aug 17, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You rebel you. :D

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 18, 2008 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't imagine Lou putting a double steal on

with no outs and Ramy at the plate. Not even Ned Yost would do something that stupid. DLee just did a good job of following the lead runner.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Aug 17, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With the offense............

……….scuffling last night, I can see Lou making this call early in the game.

The replays pretty much verify Lee moving with the pitch. He certainly wasn’t looking at Theriot.

"Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle." ~ George Burns

by tville on Aug 17, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great Roadrip!

Now let’s go home and beat up on Dusty.

"Booze, broads, and bullshit. If you got all that, what else do you need?" Harry Caray

by CubbieintheSouth on Aug 17, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BOOYAKASHAH!!!

I’d been monitoring this one at the pool all afternoon and got home just in time to see Marmol wrap it up. What a great offensive explosion. Great pitching by Demp and the pen. And a fine, fine 5-1 road trip. Now it’s time to follow the Dodgers-Brewers game and root for the other boys in blue.

!!!! CUBS WIN !!!!

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 17, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right on, Al

could not believe you’d walk D-Lee in that spot the way he’s hit in clutch spot vs. the way Ramirez has. And the Pinto thing was just laughable—and we all know the dangers of Pintos backing up!

Lou gets his share of criticism but the days are few in which we get outmanaged. I don’t think he pushes as many buttons as he did last year (hit and run, etc.) but more often than not his decisions work out.

""At the end of the day, boys, you don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship." -- Steve Stone

by kentmeister on Aug 17, 2008 3:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

huh?
Now, we all love D-Lee, but seriously, who would YOU rather face with the bases loaded?

This would be relevant if DLee was up with the bases loaded, but he wasn’t. He was up with runners on 2nd/3rd (where he has hit .325/.529/.663 in his career, which, FWIW, is better than ARam’s .337/.336/.625 with the bases loaded).

With that said… I still wouldn’t have walked him. But at least get the facts straight.

by big_lowitzki on Aug 17, 2008 4:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

Derrek is still a dangerous hitter. Granted, he hasn’t hit for as much power as we would like — he still is one of our most potent hitters.

My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: (Due date: August 11) (Tamia, where are you?)

by Unique on Aug 17, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't The Same Thing Happen vs. the White Sox

this year, at one of the games at Wrigley?

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

was trying to remember that myself.

but really? I love Derrek… but close and late with RISP? I want Rami up everyday of the week in that situation.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not when he is in those slumps of his

DLee is fine, he just isnt a flashy player so he gets more grief then most when he isnt hitting 400. Every since his really high average years he has alot to live up to, but he still our guy

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course.

But many here act like walking Lee to face Ramirez is like walking Blanco to face Ramirez.

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Tamia London Davis: (Due date: August 11) (Tamia, where are you?)

by Unique on Aug 17, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't say anyone said that.

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Tamia London Davis: (Due date: August 11) (Tamia, where are you?)

by Unique on Aug 17, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok whatever.

My new life, my new world, and my beautiful daughter:
Tamia London Davis: (Due date: August 11) (Tamia, where are you?)

by Unique on Aug 17, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW 'nique

Seven months ago I went through what you’re going through now. Nine days late!

Don’t worry though. Your daughter will get here eventually. Ours did and she was probably healthier for it.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Aug 18, 2008 1:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True enough.

In that SITUATION, Lee was the batter to face. You pitch around him, hope he makes an out.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 17, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure...

… that may be true.

But the paragraph you wrote doesn’t make any sense if it is talking about that SITUATION.

by big_lowitzki on Aug 17, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, you're right

I should have said something like, “The Marlins probably should have pitched to Lee, since Ramirez has been a better RBI man this year”, or something like that. Instead I mixed up numbers I shouldn’t have.

Better?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 17, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that would be...

…. much better.

You compared the current situation that ARam found himself in to a hypothetical situation for Derek Lee that didn’t exist in this game.

Further… based on your logic, it would have made sense to walk Lee, being that Lee had better numbers in the actual situation than ARam did in the actual situation.

by big_lowitzki on Aug 17, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand this.

I was making a comparison that wasn’t logical… but for some reason it made sense to me while I was writing it. Got to get more sleep.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 17, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did he

shoot your dog or something?

Its funny, you spend most of your life gripping a baseball. And in the end, its almost always the other way around.

by TCobb1911 on Aug 17, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we get the point, dude.

It was an accident. Why not comment with this amount of tenacity when the facts are right?

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 17, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pretty sure...

… that Al can defend himself.

by big_lowitzki on Aug 17, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and...

.. comment with “tenacity” when the facts are right?

What do you want me to do… say something like:

Great job Al! You got the facts right this time!

by big_lowitzki on Aug 17, 2008 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hm.

there’s something to be said about wanting to be completely accurate in everything you do, but generally, when people notice small mistakes or lapses in logic, they tend to let it go. you’re reading a baseball discussion forum man, not a freaking dissertation for a PhD. Let it go.

by ThisIsResolute on Aug 18, 2008 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

umm...

… I did let it go.

Until ya’ll jumped in and felt the need to defend Al.

by big_lowitzki on Aug 18, 2008 6:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.

Al let it go. I was thinking as I read above that it was a very graceful and humble exit by Al. It could have turned into a brawl, but he just bowed out. You didn’t let it go, you pushed it until Al backed down.

Not trying to get back into it. Don’t want to get back into it. However, don’t try to take credit for letting it go.

by Archie on Aug 18, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sigh

Always someone.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 18, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scoreboard Update

Crew batting in the 4th

Still 3-0 Dodgers

Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Aug 17, 2008 4:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cameron solo shot

3-1 Dodgers

Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Aug 17, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the last time

I change the channel in frustration in the 6th inning.

by daeviant on Aug 17, 2008 4:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

time to get a DVR

then you can zoom through all the bad parts ;)

by nathew on Aug 17, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I seriously need to join everyone

in the 21st century.

Ok.. if the Cubs make the playoffs, I’ll get myself a Tivo.

by daeviant on Aug 17, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Softball Rules For The Riot, Too

No leading off first base until after the pitcher throws the ball!

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weeks lost popup in the sun

1st & 2nd – 2 outs for the Dodgers

Bottom 4th

Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Aug 17, 2008 4:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ed Lynch

He was fired because he was crap at his job, and not because of any one incident.

Anyhow, how was he responsible for the decision to delay the start of a game? I thought that was up to the umpires.

by Leon Durham on Aug 17, 2008 4:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"I Didn't Know Robin Ventura Wanted To Stay In Chicago"

When he said that the day after Ventura signed with the Mets (leaving us stuck with an overripe Gaetti), that’s when Eddie Baby should’ve been axed.

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eddie Baby should have never been hired to start with...

…and that falls on the shoulders of the blue blooded Captain of the Sweater Vest., McPhail

"When I got to Chicago, fans came to Wrigley Field just to have fun, now they come to see us win. The expectations have changed, for the players and for the fans. It’s about winning." Kerry Wood, 7/14/08

by JB 23 on Aug 17, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't you mean MacFail

Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Aug 17, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MacPhail Was More Loyal To His Philosophies Than The Cubs

When he first got to the Cubs, MacPhail should’ve realized the resources at his disposal and spent more for top talent. But instead he held the fans hostage with his fiscally responsible, “content to compete within the division” way of running things.

It’s like the T-shirt I once saw that said “YOUR FAILED BUSINESS MODEL IS NOT MY PROBLEM”.

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Umpires decision after the first pitch has been thrown?

Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Aug 17, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, management is responsible up to the first pitch.

Yes, he wasn’t very good at his job. But that game was the last straw.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 17, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is a cool million in ticket sales even that big of a deal?

Not that I have any figures in front of me, but it just doesn’t seem like a large dollar amount for a professional sports team.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 17, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember, we're talking about 1999...

… payrolls and ticket prices were far different nine years ago.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 17, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i say...

i wanna beat the dbacks, marlins, and…..heck, the white sox in the postseason!!!

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you know...

to get all the monkeys off our back all at once

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude.

isn’t the postseason itself enough of a monkey? do we really need a gorilla instead? LOL

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why not do it in extreme dramatic fashion?

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

b/c Cubs in October is dramatic enough for me

if we can get 11 I don’t care if they come against Dominican Summer League as long as they count.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha, thats great!

i will, like you, take them ANYWAY we can get em

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Angel Guzman's rehab start in Iowa today:

3 IP/ 0 ER/3 K/1 BB/1 H

Looking good. Al, you ready to admit that he could pitch in the majors this year?

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 4:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's nice to hear.

Who knows…maybe he’ll be one of the September callups after all.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 17, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just hope we aren't rushing him.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he just had TJ last august

they rushed Carpenter back and he’s hurt again.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love for ANYONE to come up and contribute, I just don’t want us to rush someone and risk losing him for even longer.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed, but Carpenter's value to the Cards is a little different

than Guzman and his value to this team. If we can get some quality outings from him in Sept, I’m all for it.

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know.

I am just counting on nothing from Guzman… so anything he does contribute is a huge bonus.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bullpen Duty?

That way his innings are limited…

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fielder GIDP

Middle of 5th, 3-1 Dodgers.

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 4:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There are too many people complaining

I dont understand. Marmol did fine, and will be fine. Lee is a SICK SMART BALLPLAYER, and if I hear another person complain about him batting 3rd I am going to go nuts. That is a key spot in the lineup and hes playing just fine, not to mention his amazing glove. Just because he isnt going to hit 30+ HR doesnt mean he shouldnt be batting 3rd. Theriot with his OBP should be batting second. Thats where you put people who get on base all the time, but yes he needs to stop trying to steal bases. He does his job well. Soriano doesnt have a great glove but he hits like a mofo and sometimes makes up for his bad glove with his cannon arm. Our bench is sick, our coaching is the best I have ever seen in a Cubs uniform, our pitchers are all SICK (except Howry), our road record is now .500 and our home record is amongst the best. STOP COMPLAINING PEOPLE, I realize we are used to bitchin all the time about the Cubs, but not this year, EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE. We might only have one batter with 100 RBIs (Ramirez) and we had our super star out for 30+ games, but everyone is doing there part well where they are in the lineup. DONT FIX SOMETHING THAT ISNT BROKEN!!! GO CUBS!!! I am so excited being back in Chicago to go to this next homestand!

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Suggestion for Sori

put “MOFO 12” on the back of his uni!

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes thank you

I was really happy then came on here and see complaints everywhere, I dont get it

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Minor Quibbles, Nothing More

My only concern is that a Theriot baserunning gaffe or a Soriano misplay might cost us a game in the postseason, assuming we get that far.

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea,

complaining can be a little overbearing. wasnt in the game thread to hear it all. but, there are some issues that may need to be looked at.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hope so.

no need to get all yell-y. We’re all in agreement: our “problems” are pretty good to have.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and the players with less RBIs then usual is because we dont have just 1 star doing all the work. The bases are being cleared by someone new everyday, or everybody does it in 1 game, therefore the RBIs are being spread amongst the team

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some valid points, but understand that not everything is going to be sunshine and rainbows.

We’re on this site to have discussions and arguments about the Cubs, not just to praise them. This place wouldn’t be much fun if we couldn’t get together and have some good debates about our favorite team. We realize how well they’re playing, and are enjoying it, but that doesn’t preclude anyone from offering their opinions on the team or its players.

BTW, A guy with an OBP like Theriot’s would be best suited to leadoff, but since we know that won’t happen, it makes more sense to hit him 8th, in front of the pitcher.

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree with you 100%

it is a place for great debate, but the thing is… some of these arguments are just because some people dont know how to look at things in a positive light sometimes, you know? and you are right about Theriot, I can see him in the 8 hole, but with Piniella’s amazing coaching decisions, I will trust his decision to keep Theriot there

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree completely

we are in first place….28 games (i think) above .500….etc etc etc….stop complaining so much people and just be happy…..theriot runs the bases just fine for the most part……sori plays defense just a hair above average….marquis is a quality #5 starter…..lets stop focusing on the few negatives we have and celebrate the many positives we do have

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Theriot runs the bases just fine?

Can you pass some of what you’re smoking?

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pointing out that Riot has blunders on the basepaths

is NOT being a debbie downer. thats being honest.

Riot needs to either pick his spots better or just run less.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh please

we just came off (what i would call) a huge road series win…..i come on here and the discussion is ripping theriot for his poor baserunning

so yes that is being a debbie downer…..had his poor baserunning cost us the game, then fine rip him all you want, but we just WON….stop finding little things to complain about

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree that we had a GREAT road trip

and i’m as positive as it gets, but saying “no pointing out flaws” is irritating.

on the whole, we have a good team. but there are flaws and it SHOULD be okay to point them out among fellow fans.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yet last night...

…you tell everyone to “chill out” when they complained about Fonzie’s pick off?

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so you think it's okay to be negative?

because I believe that was the point carmen was making, which I completely agree with. Just interesting that 5 minutes ago you were arguing the other side of the coin. Being a hypocrite doesn’t lend much credence to the things you say.

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what are you talking about

bc carmen was not referring to me…..i wasn’t even on here last night……calm down haha

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carmen was getting on HBCG for telling people not to be negative,

the exact thing you were just telling me. Then you say “amen” to carmen’s comment? Makes sense.

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like you're trying to start one

HBCG is usually about as positive as they come. There is nothing wrong with pointing out shortcomings in someone’s game.

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 17, 2008 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

and its pretty hypocritical of me… but when they are names I’ve NEVER seen in game threads before who show up JUST to complain it pisses me off.

So yeah. I’m a hypocrit.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I don't frequent the game threads like I used to....

….but I was kind of shocked to see that from you after only a couple negative comments.

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was trying to nip it in the bud

but I should have just left it alone. Thats why I left when I did.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's developed a pattern of bad baserunning, and boneheaded plays in general.

It may not have affected the outcome of today’s game, but in the long run it does hurt the team to have a player constantly making baserunning mistakes like Theriot does. Obviously I’m thrilled with the roadtrip, and think this is a great team with great prospects for the rest of the season. That does not stop me from being able to critique problems that may eventually hurt the team.

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since you read what I wrote, and that was your reply, then

you really must just be an idiot. No need for this conversation to continue, because clearly you have problems comprehending anything I write. Go play in the street.

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

easy easy easy sackings

no need to name call here

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hang on

isnt calling someone a “debbie downer” name calling? It certainly seems just as insulting.

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 18, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You really think

calling someone an idiot and telling them to go play in the street are the same as calling someone a Debbie Downer?

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 18, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

again

what are you talking about…..this whole conversation started bc i made a comment that people need to chill out about the few problems we do have and to focus on the good things

my point was don’t be a debbie downer, not arguing about theriots poor base running so writing that was me making a point that despite having a good point, it still qualifies you as one

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, due to the fact that Ryan Theriot is a bad baserunner,

I’m a debbie downer. Got it. Let’s agree to stop talking about this now.

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i didn't say that!

you’re now making statements that simply have no logic behind them…..i agree this conversation with someone like you is going nowhere

YOU focusing on theriots poor baserunning when we just had a huge win most certainly gives you the title of debbie downer

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al brought it up in his recap.

That’s why it was even being discussed. Go beef to him about it.

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

here's the difference btw you and him

sure he made good points about theriot being a crappy baserunner, which is fine bc ultimately he comes to the the conclusion that “no harm” was done……he’s not a debbie downer like you

he (like we all do) realizes theriots got something to work on, but does he dwell on it? no….BIG DIFFERENCE

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You both have good points

but you’re both coming at this the wrong way. Yes, ALWAYS pointing out negative things IS a downer, but saying “hey this guy needs to improve this aspect” is not. So I guess it just depends on how you’re reading Sackings. I don’t see him as being a downer just a “hey I don’t like that part of this game but man am i glad we won”.

Deep breathes. Everything is FINE.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

read my above comment

we’re on the same page…..my point is don’t dwell on the negatives when we have so much to celebrate

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree completely

I just don’t see why you’re still coming across so snippy.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this was from today.. I think its snarky.

Since you read what I wrote, and that was your reply, then
you really must just be an idiot. No need for this conversation to continue, because clearly you have problems comprehending anything I write. Go play in the street.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so confused

don’t know who is talking to who here

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Madison replied in the wrong spot.

I think she was tyring to reply to Sackings asking where he was insulting.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not snippy

remember i’m the only one that seems to be happy about todays game haha

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm THRILLED aobut todays game

that was a great game. Demps was fantastic. Rami was as clutch as usual. it was good.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am.

I think you are prolly right….. sackings makes some great points, he obviously knows quite a bit about baseball. Which is great, we are all here to discuss and learn.
but my problem is w/ the snarkiness of the other comments he makes. There is no need to tell someone to go play in the street.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like your way of looking at things

Sackings just sounds a lot meaner then he probably is, we all like to get our points across, and some of us are more stuborn then others. I am one of those people I am sure, but I like your way of looking at things as well. The positives of Theriot outweigh the negatives of Theriot… same for Sori and same for Lee, not to sure about fukudome though, but well see

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't mean to come across like that, I apologize if I do.

And I agree with you about Lee and Soriano, because they are both valuable offensive players, and defensive in Lee’s case. We’ll agree to disagree on Theriot.

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont think you come off like that personally

I just wanted to let some people know that just because you disagree doesnt mean your are trying to kick their ass or anything… haha

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

It’s called a “difference of opinion” for a reason. Some just feel the need to keep arguing, like they’re finally going to “convert” the other person into agreeing with them. That rarely happens. LOL.

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think discussing Theriot here is much like

religion and politics. :)

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+10

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 17, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol and... yep

but then, I like discussing religion and politics

by Emelie on Aug 17, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so d-lee hits into alot of

DP’s. should we bench him?? no, it is a downfall of his game. quit making his one downfall make him sound like someone who hurts the team, and doesnt contribute

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude,

what is your hate for theriot? i havent heard anything bad about him until yesterday, when he got CS again. maybe Lou shouldnt put the steal sign on, esp in that situation. maybe theriot doesnt want to steal.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Preacherman, let's agree to disagree about this one.

No need to rehash the Theriot argument. Some people like him, some people don’t, and we’re not gonna convince eachother otherwise.

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreeto disagree...

it just gets old having the same convo, and then you say to drop it, whjen you brought it up

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I clearly wasn't dropping it above, I just didn't think we needed to have it again.

But since you asked, sure. Here’s my problem with Theriot’s baserunning. He constantly makes egregious baserunning gaffes, and has shown no signs that he’s getting better at it. Here’s a link: http://www.wrigleyville23.com/2008/08/tootblans-finally-catalogued-for.html

Ok, now let’s talk about other things wrong with him. He can’t field worth a damn, he gets to NOTHING outside of his fielding zone, and his arm is about as strong as a 5 yr old girl.

Now lets talk about his power, or lack thereof. All he does is hit singles. That’s it. Theriot will never really drive in runs, because he simply isn’t capable of it. All he’s good for is some empty OBP.

In conclusion, Ryan Theriot is a scrappy singles hitter who plays horrible defensively, runs the bases like Arnie from What’s Eating Gilbert Grape, and can’t get to second base. I’m happy to not drop it, and defend my point of view.

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow dude

you totally took his comment the wrong way……..

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and yet, despite all of this...

We’re still 28 games over .500.

:)

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, and it's been a great season.

I know many of you won’t agree with me about Theriot, and that’s fine. We’re all here to express our differing opinions, that’s what makes this place great.

P.S…. imagine how much further up we could be with a real SS :-}

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saying anything about Theriot:

can open… worms EVERYWHERE.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sad part is, i'm not even a huge theriot fan

my original arguement had nothing to do with his abilities and it turned into this haha

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to sit back here

and watch the games begin :D

by Emelie on Aug 17, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you missed it

you are about half an hour late.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Theriot is bcb version of

religion and politics… everyone has an opinion and rarely will anyone chance theres.

:)

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good point

Theriot and Marquis are like discussing politics and religion.

better???

:)

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I knew that was coming...

..or if Howry pitching was better.
…or if DWard had more PH’s
…or if Marquis was better
…or if Marmol wouldn’t have had a mid season collapse.
….etc etc etc

Hell, we’d be 124-0!!!!

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now that's what I'm talking about!

This team should clearly be 173-0 when all is said and done.

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and someone would still find something to complain about

oh.no.I.did.not.just.step.into.this

Even Michael Phelps and his coach said they had things they could have done better. Go figure!

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 17, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there's always room

for improvement. I don’t think any serious athlete would ever say anything different.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're right carmen we suck

theriot sucks at running

dlee sucks at not grounding into dp’s

aramis sucks at sliding

waaaah waaaaahhh……debbie downer

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is why this argument continues.

I constantly defend Lee, because I think he gets too much grief for his DP’s. I love Aramis, and don’t complain about anything with him. He’s a great player. So build up your strawmen, and I will continue to burn them. I do think Theriot sucks at running, however.

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

this is why i think you are looking for an arguement

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wasn't even talking to you

i was responding to carmen and continuing what they said and you get all personal and start talking about “buring my strawmen”

aramis sucks at sliding? did you really think i was being serious that someone said that?!?!

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saying I'm burning your fake arguments

is not getting personal. Do you know what a strawman argument is?

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

replace personal with defensive

wrong word

and no i have no clue what the strawman argument means, could you PLEASE explain it to me

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

here I thought I broker a peace deal

:(

have at it boys…. I give up

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey

can we stop this? please?

Sackings is snarky. You’re obviously convinced he’s a downer.

Thats fine. But we WON. Can we not do this anymore? Please?

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Group Hug Time!!!!

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

plus cubbiegirl is a feisty one

don’t know if we’d want to her mad. so made a truce is in order.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry,

i just like theriot. so im gonna defend him. if he wants to point out all the bad things about one person, let him, all the while EVERYONE has something that they could probably work on…no one on this team is perfect. think of the bad stuff this could do to the clubhouse if we put cedeno in as a starter…it might split the clubhouse

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since it was asked.

All the bad things about Ryan Theriot:

  • Baserunning
  • Defense
  • Hitting for extra bases

He can’t pitch, either, if anyone was wondering.

by cwyers on Aug 17, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is there another team in the division lead with this type of shortstop?

Let’s look at ’em (AL 5 teams with tie in central):

Tampa – Jason Barlett, .266 BA/.304 OBP/.321 SLG
Sox – Orlando Cabrera, .270/.325/.350
Twins – Brendan Harris, .263/.322/.389
Angels – Erick Aybar, .280/.319/.388
BoSox – Julio Lugo, .268/.355/.330

NL:

Brewers – J.J. Hardy, .276/.337/.462
Mets – Jose Reyes, .305/.363/.492
DBacks – Stephen Drew, .281/.323/.481
Cubs – Ryan Theriot, .316/.396/.372

I know you can kill me in the stats deparment, cwyers, but I’m just sayin…Theriot’s offensive numbers aren’t that off from most of the AL guys, especially those who’s teams lead the division or wild card. We don’t have a Hanley or Tejada or Rollins at short, sure, but we do have a hellava wins with him on the field.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Aug 17, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, that leaves out defense and baserunning

Tampa – Jason Barlett, .266 BA/.304 OBP/.321 SLG 18SB/5CS
Sox – Orlando Cabrera, .270/.325/.350 18/3
Twins – Brendan Harris, .263/.322/.389 1/1
Angels – Erick Aybar, .280/.319/.388 6/2
BoSox – Julio Lugo, .268/.355/.330 12/4

NL:

Brewers – J.J. Hardy, .276/.337/.462 2/1
Mets – Jose Reyes, .305/.363/.492 40/12
DBacks – Stephen Drew, .281/.323/.481 3/1
Dodgers – Furcal, .366/..448/.597 8/2
Cubs – Ryan Theriot, .316/.396/.372 18/13

So all the NL guys out OPS Ryan, and all the AL guys (but one) out run him. They have at least 3/1 stolen base ratios, where Ryan has less than half that success rate. The only guy I would say he definitely has better all around numbers than is Harris, and he isnt even an everyday SS. He spends half his time at 2b.

And we havent even factored in D yet. Ryan has the 2nd lowest range factor of all qualified SS, and 3rd lowest zone rating.

I like Ryan. I appreciate hustle. I’m glad to have him on the team. He is good at putting the bat on the ball, and his increased walks are a godsend. He also has no range, no arm, no power, and has had a perplexing bad year stealing bases this year.

He has good and bad, and if Onedec had continued his nice start to the year, he should have taken over or at least be given more time at short. However, with the reappearance of Cedeno, Ryan’s job is safe in my mind.

The idea of replacing Soriano with Theriot at the leadoff seems like a big mistake. Espcially given the possibility that Fonzie has his wheels back. .900 OPS or .767? 12/1 SB/CS (in 350 PA) or 18/13 (in 500 PA)? I think those outweigh the .340 to .396 OBP advantage that Ryan has.

Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB

by californiachicagoan on Aug 18, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it's our

fault and we jinxed Cedeno by calling him Onedec when he had that nice turn around. I’m not a superstitious person but…..

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 18, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jinxed him how?

He’s still a superior player to Theriot.

by sackings108 on Aug 18, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was a joke.

Having a sense of humor on here will get you along way.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 18, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the thing is

Theriot is a bad base stealer…. I agree, but explain the bad base running? And seriously guys the man makes $390,000 and is significantly better at OBP then anyone on the Cubs… 390, frickin, 000 dollars!!!!! in MLB!!!!!!!!!!

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok ok

Thank you for that, I really did want to see something like that, I still think his positives out weigh the negatives, but your point was proven very well… thank you

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sackings108

this is the second day in a row you are here insulting people. Is there a reason you can’t prove your point with out insults?

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

who did I insult yesterday?

And today, I called cubswynn an idiot, and immediately admitted it was wrong.

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you didnt

you just are giving your opinions… hence a BLOG thread

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone asked a question about what happened in the game so far

You got all snarky told them to check out gameday for the update…………… Sue commented that we are all here to learn things.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sue is the man

or wait… the WOman

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my exact comment was:

“check gameday”

Is that an insult?

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sackings...CubsWynn....HalfblindCubbieGirl

We know how this works… this is a never ending argument that has been going on since atleast I have been a member of this site and probabyl before…. lets just scroll down to the bottom of this page on move onto another convo

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fine

but only if we declare me the winner of the arguement…..agreed? okay done

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Theriot fine.

I love that he loves the game and plays hard. I just wish he’d run smarter. Thats it to me really.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not looking to argue at all. I expressed disappointment

with Theriot’s continuing failure as a baserunner, and you jumped all over me for it. I didn’t want to argue, just express my opinion.

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ethier solo bomb

4-1 Dodgers

Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Aug 17, 2008 4:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Still 4-1 Dodgers, End of 5

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 4:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Clutch Cubs

Doesn’t it seem that this years team wins the big series or game. Four game sweep of the Brewers, Series win over the Cardinals, Series win over the Marlins(on the road). I believe that is a good sign for our October possibilities.

by Imtrejo on Aug 17, 2008 4:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Great Win

Was cleaning out a basement workwrom all afternoon, but got to hear Pat during the 8-run 7th. Even the dirtiest jobs (lots of mouse poop to deal with) are tolerable when the Cubs win.

"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI

by sweetswinger on Aug 17, 2008 4:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We May Have A Mouse, Too

Our dogs have been sniffing along the baseboards like crazy, and my wife said she saw some mouse drops on the counter this morning.

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Peanut butter

on a snap trap – works like a charm for me.

Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Aug 17, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mice

We’ve caught several in the kitchen. Peanut butter on snap trap workd for us to. But I had no idea how bad the situation was in the basement workroom. Also, we have three cats in our house. I feel like DFAing the lot of them. Only kidding. We love our kiddies, monor-league mousers though they may be.

"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI

by sweetswinger on Aug 17, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Lemme guess, their names are Howry, Eyre, and Marquis!

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two of them

to the SPCA for a kittie to be named later?

"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI

by sweetswinger on Aug 17, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are more humane ways of catching mice.

Why make them suffer?

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/09/mouse_trap.php

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 17, 2008 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We thought we had a mouse

so we set a live trap…. and caught a sugar glider.

Still have no idea where it came from.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's a Sugar Glider?

Hopefully not bigger than a mouse!

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our guy

looks like this.

He’s a cutie… but really? We have no idea where he came from.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have never seen

one of those before. He’s kind of cute though.

Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!

by sue369 on Aug 17, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, Never Seen One of Those!

Snap traps are out…the missus says they’re too cruel.

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we used a live trap w/ peanut butter inside.

was really easy. $20 from the local TSC.

And snap traps are cruel.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

Quick and effective. Glue traps are cruel.

Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Aug 17, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I started doing catch and release. However, the mice play were playing, catch, release—and return.

"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI

by sweetswinger on Aug 17, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In LA, the small critters are still rats,not mice.

So we go with snap traps w/peanut butter. Once the “rat-proofing” of the house has been violated, it is us v them. So we have no choice but the industrial strength traps. I am anti-violence, but I also don’t want anything to hurt my dogs.

THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 17, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rat Zapper Ultra with a Rat Tail

No blood. Highly recommended.

Put a couple of pieces of dog food pellets (included) inside the trap, place the opening up against a wall, and leave it until the red light comes on.

Just make sure to check for the red light often. If you leave a dead rodent in there too long, the maggots take over and the smell is terrible.

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 17, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's something sublime...

…about the last two sentences of this post.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

by dat cubfan daver on Aug 17, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can also save money and make your own...very easy too.

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/09/mouse_trap.php

"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun

by Bump Bailey on Aug 17, 2008 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A look ahead.

Cincy and then Washington at home. Two last place teams for the next six games, time to put some wins on the board here and put even more distance between the Cubs and the Brewers/Cards. Both those two teams, however, are playing “bad” teams at home as well… might have to settle for where things end up for the day, only burning off six games off the schedule.

by drMeth on Aug 17, 2008 4:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

all we need to do is win.

THEY have to catch up.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

as long as the cubs are winning, all the brewers/cards can do is keep pace.

This is “take care of business” time.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They better be planning

on winning more than 100 because that is the only way they are catching the Cubs.

Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Aug 17, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MID 6TH

Still 4-1 Dodgers

Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Aug 17, 2008 4:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jinx

pinch poke you owe me a Coke :)

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i haven't heard that in AGES

lol

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mid 6th, Still 4-1 Dodgers

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 4:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kendall grounds out

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on Aug 17, 2008 4:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dodgers in business

2nd & 3rd – 1 out

Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Aug 17, 2008 4:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

FAIL

Stranded

K looking and deep flyout

Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Aug 17, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Braun, A Horrible OF, Makes A Running Catch

End of 6th, 4-1 Dodgers.

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The LF Defense in the NL Central is horrible.

It actually got a little better now that Duncan got hurt and Dunn was traded.

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Fonzie is "horrible"

definitely not Braun level anyway. He is brutal.

Fonzie at least has the arm and speed to make up for some of his less than stellar routes.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to take more naps

When the Marlins went up 2-0 and had men on the corners with one out , I got nervous
turned off the TV and took literal cat nap. I turned it back on and it was 5-2 Cubs with bases loaded two out and RJ at the plate. I wish I could do this every time the Cubs are down.

FYI the most disgusting non rain RAIN out of all time was a few years ago when King George of the Yankees did not like the starting pitcher and the Yanks had a day game on Lou Gehrig Day. They even had Teresa Wright the actress who played Eleanor there as part of a pre-game ceremony. WELL THE GAME WAS CALLED after the ceremony but not A DROP of rain fell the ENTIRE day and the pitcher ( I forget who) had his start skipped. The Yankees claimed radar showed it was GOING to rain ? The tens of thousands of fans who were at the game got their money back but it was despicable and the Yankees should have been fined.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 17, 2008 5:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yay for cubbie highlights on sportscenter

:-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Larry & Z

Al……..About 12:15 – an hour and 15 min. b4 the game Larry did a bullpen session with Z I was about 10 feet away. I couid hear some of the conversation which had to do with downward plane and arm slot, staying on top of the ball. He sure looked better then when I saw him friday and I had a good viewpoint from in back of the plate about 10 row up……………..I have some pictures ….. but hey I am not a PC genius
don’t know how to cut & paste them into this site……………….

by nimblenikelfoos on Aug 17, 2008 5:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

On a digital

a couple of good shots of Larry & Z

by nimblenikelfoos on Aug 17, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so if you got them on your computer, you can just go to tinypic.com and upload them,

then copy the “html for websites” link, and paste it into a comment here. The picture will appear like magic!

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please do this, nimblenikelfoos...

… you could make a fanpost about them. That’d be very informative.

Glad to hear that they’re working on the issue.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 17, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good To Hear

Nice detective work!

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the shot of the dugout

was pretty cool, love seeing the players get just as excited as the fans……

couple things i noticed

lou had almost no reaction, which i’m amazed at…..don’t know if i could ever be that calm during a cubs game

and when rammy was sitting on second after the double, he looked like he was trying to play it cool and act like it was no big deal……so he looked like he was avoiding eye contact with the dugout, then when he finally did looked into the dugout he got this huge grin on his face haha….love it

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 5:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OT Question:

When do they call a baseball game a tie? In this article w/ Woody theres this quote:
 

The Cubs entered Sunday’s game at 75-48, their best mark through 123 games since the 1969 team was 77-45-1. The Cubs have been better than 75-48 just twice in the last 70 seasons, also doing so in 1945. But they’re not going to win every game.

When does a game get called a tie?

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah. Thanks.

I kept seeing tie counts in the “best starts” box but never knew who or where to ask what was up with that. :-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The rules have been changed in the last couple of years...

… to avoid ties. In the past, many games were called for darkness (which is why you see more ties in the years pre-lights). After lights, you might see games called by rain which were tied at the time and beyond 5 innings.

Now, any such game (that’s tied and they give up due to rain) has to be suspended. There won’t be any more tie games.

The last Cubs tie was May 28, 1993 vs. the Expos.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 17, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

1-2-3 inning

MID 7th

Dodgers 4-1

Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!

by wnielsen on Aug 17, 2008 5:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ethier Doubles

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 5:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And that great OF defense by the Brewers rears its ugly head again

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

5-1 Dodgers!

Manny does it again!

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 5:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ramirez rbi single, 5-1 dodgers

"This is why Major League Baseball does not need instant replay, because then every single play will then be reviewed." -- Joe Morgan, 5/18/08, referring to an umpire ruling a Carlos Delgado homerun foul when replays showed it hit the foul pole.

by CubsBall2202 on Aug 17, 2008 5:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Chip Caray

“I think its disgraceful that he [Ron Santo] isn’t in the hall of fame, hopefully the veteran’s committee will fix that”

:-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Did he shout at innapropriate times while he said it?

Only then will I believe Chip Caray made that statement…

In all seriousness though, Ronnie deserves it, and I hope he’s in soon, while he’s living.

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They were talking about Dodgers' pitcher Johnson whos a diabetic

and how impressive it is that Ronnie could do what he did without the new medical technology.

It was really classy.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"BELTED!"

The ultimate Chip-ism.

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SWUNG ON BELTED!!!!

Deep left center, the LF looks up and its GONE!!!!!

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about

“leathered larceny”

or

"dandy little glove man

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea unfortunatly it probably wont happen until he dies

Its weird how that works, people get the respect they deserve after they arent even on earth to enjoy it… hopefully it is true that a spirit can see and enjoy things that are going on here on Earth after they are gone, because it is a shame that people like Ron Santo cant enjoy the praise and respect they deserve while they are still alive

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mid 8th

5-1 Dodgers

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by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 5:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Propitiously Al? Really?

Thanks, now my head hurts.

by Mapmaker on Aug 17, 2008 5:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I am so hungry, I think its peanut butter jelly time

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 5:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

5-1 Dodgers heading into the 9th

:-)

We’re 3 outs away from a 5.5 game lead again.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dodgers win

:-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops.

i thought the game was over… it was just a pitching change. Stoopid TBS.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit I jinxed 'em.

2 & 3 1 out.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go Dodgers .. thank God their Ace Eric Gagne

is in the other bullpen ..

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Aug 17, 2008 5:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hope we never face that Japanese pitcher LA has ..

.. that guy owned the Cubs last time we saw him .. it surely wasn’t pretty

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Aug 17, 2008 5:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think

you’re referring to Saito, who’s on the DL.

"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI

by sweetswinger on Aug 17, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or chan ho park?

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully

he wasn’t referring to Park, who’s Korean.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Aug 18, 2008 1:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Asian Pitchers

Dodgers apparently have quite a few of them.

"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI

by sweetswinger on Aug 17, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

5-3 Dodgers 2 outs

Now we’re 1 strike away from a 5.5 lead.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay. Or not.

Tie game. Braun homers. 5-5.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry

i was half watching it… it seemed like ti was over.. Torre went out and got the ball from Johnson and then went to commerical and then back tot he studio.. I assumed it was over. My bad. :embarassed:

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

5-5

Braun dinger. Chan Ho Park blows the save.

by ChipSet on Aug 17, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

poop

5-5

cubs = love

by cubs ftw on Aug 17, 2008 6:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

RYAN BRAUN SUCKS

and besides he has weird looking buggy eyes

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by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 6:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

haha..

he does look like a bug.. either that, or he’s TERRIFIED constantly… maybe he just doesn’t have any eyelids… and he’s pretty darn good. i hate that he’s such a good hitter for the division rival, but i can’t say he sucks..

by ThisIsResolute on Aug 18, 2008 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Understand That Bad Players Don't "Suck"

Typically I reserve my “you suck”s after an opposing player makes a great play, offensively or defensively. Or if the guy is flat out good. The guys that aren’t good typically don’t hurt the Cubs, so they don’t merit a “you suck” out of me.

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 18, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Braun

Game tying two run HR on 0-2 pitch with two outs in 9th.

"Earthly fame is naught but a breath of wind, which now comes hence and now comes thence, changing its name because it changes quarter." -- Dante, Purgatorio, Canto XI

by sweetswinger on Aug 17, 2008 6:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Drill Him Next At-Bat

Then his side will REALLY hurt!

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by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Am i glad we won today

this game would be driving me nuts otherwise. LOL.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hi, folks

Way to yip the 3-inch putt, Dodgers. Sheesh.

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Braun

is unreal, But Hey Chan Ho how about throwing that spinning slider in the dirt WHEN YOU HAVE HIM 0-2!!!!!!!!!!!! Jeez.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Aug 17, 2008 6:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He (Braun) Has A Bit Of The A-Hole In Him

the way he hot-dogs it around the bases.

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I dislike the Brewers more than the Cards. Braun can rake, but an attitude. And whoever is agent is should be fired. Braun signed a ridiculously low ball contract, If I am no mistaken 5 years 14 million, something in that ballpark

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Aug 17, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

think it was 8

years, wasn’t it?… not sure how many dollars… i wish someone would pay me millions of dollars to play the game i love.

by ThisIsResolute on Aug 18, 2008 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

8 years $45M is cheap by today's standards

Braun is signed through 2015. He is scheduled to make only $12M in the final year of his contract. That will be pennies on a dollar by 2015.

His agent: is Nez Balelo of Paragon Sports, who also represents NYY pitcher Philip Hughes.

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 18, 2008 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

4 run 9th?

e-gad

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by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It'll just make

the walk-off all the more dramatic and satisfying :-)

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by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and crushing for the crew

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, yeah!

Psychic powers—I haz them.

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Loney got a double error

and then Park hanged a slider on an 0-2 pitch.

Glad we’re in first and not trying to play catch up.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what was the quote by santo ....

when your in first it looks like 8 minutes and in 2nd eight miles?

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wouldnt that be the same

if your driving 60 mph, lol jk

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al had it the other day

“When you’re 8 games in first it looks like 8 inches, when you’re 8 games behind it looks like 8 miles.”

I think that was it.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That makes more sense

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that makes way more sense

hence why I agreed w/ the being in first comment

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's see the Dodgers walk off

in the bottom of the 29th inning. Brewers fly back to Milwaukee after the game and are home tomorrow night.

by ChipSet on Aug 17, 2008 6:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

90 feet down

270 to go

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dang, you could play handball

off Fielder’s back

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Love it!

…umm…we don’t play the Dodgers any more in the regular season, right?

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

NOW

the dodgers win!!

2 run walk off!

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I gotcher walk-off

…right here, boy!

MWAH HAHAHAHAHA!!!

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

DODGERS WIN!!!

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 6:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

In Randy Newman we trust

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Randy Newman

wrote a song that said “Short people have no reason to live” and everyone thought he was serious. Then he wrote a song that said “I love LA” and everyone thought he was joking.

Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?

by Josh77 on Aug 18, 2008 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love Randy Newman

and his ambiguous I Love LA

Amazed to discover that I do too!

by Emelie on Aug 18, 2008 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You do?

Really? I haven’t been to LA in seven years, used to go often when my grandmother was alive (she died in 2001). Haven’t been back. Haven’t missed it.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 18, 2008 4:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do

It’s the pan asian, north-south demographic mix that I find fascinating, alongside the high-low culture. Because of this It’s an uniquely American city. It has it’s downsides, to be sure (not least celebrity worship), but overall, it’s the LA cultural amalgam that I find most intriguing.

by Emelie on Aug 18, 2008 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It Can Be A Very Shallow Place

More emphasis placed on style over substance, and the facade over the underlying structure. Sort of an “impress me, or get out of my way” attitude. But once you look around enough and discover people who are real, then it’s not too bad a place to live.

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 18, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes!

-Charlemagne

by Charlemagne on Aug 17, 2008 6:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

GOOD

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Aug 17, 2008 6:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

andif you listen closely...

you can hear fielder sigh and pass gas

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

200 birds

lose their lives in the blast

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

5.5 up on Brewers. 7.5 up on cards.

and a well deserved off day. :-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yes!

since that game is done, who would like to discuss theriots baserunning skills?

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 6:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather discuss the suckage of Bob Howry...

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

welcome to the thread

you must have missed the very interesting dicussion we had earlier

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and by interesting i mean

the same 4 points were made about 98 times

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes that one

he saw some happy kids so he had to go bum them out

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my...

..not gonna let it go, huh? LOL

(And I’m literally laughing out loud!)

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or wondering

why he keeps putting the steal sign on

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

gasp...

u did it…sackings shows up like a genie that had his lamp rubbed!

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, my first wish is for him to go away, lol

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

your my new favorite person on here!!! lol

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

preacherman

your not insulted by my comparision of the Theriot and Marquis debates to politics and religion are you? B/c that would be the last thing I’d want to do

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as his new #2

i’m gonna say no….he doesn’t seem that sensitive

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I figured that... but I wanted to be respectful and check.

there are lots of other examples out of there one could use otherwise. those are just the common ones

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seinfield reference? lol

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 17, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think him not replying to your message says it all, Madison

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

other he's so offended he's not speaking to her

or its just not a big issue.:-P

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

prolly

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you offended a preacher on Sunday...shame shame

:)

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

its cool,

i had to take off quick, i was almost late to church…lol

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

your cool

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not insulted at all...

but id rather discuss theriot and marquis while on here, lol

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that always works out well.

Generally it goes like this:

Con: Theriot sucks at running the bases.

Pro: …shut the hell up!

Not a whole lot of “discussion” there.

by cwyers on Aug 17, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where have you seen that sort of argument?

I admit, there have been less than logical arguments in favor of Theriot, but not like that.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 17, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it tends to be on the order of

“look at his batting average!”

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty much this whole thread.

Calling people “Debbie Downers” because they question Ryan Theriot’s ability to steal bases (when to be quite frank it sure feels like an open-and-shut case of “he’s not very able”) doesn’t really feel like a discussion.

by cwyers on Aug 17, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My personal favorite response was
sorry,

i just like theriot. so im gonna defend him. if he wants to point out all the bad things about one person, let him, all the while EVERYONE has something that they could probably work on…no one on this team is perfect. think of the bad stuff this could do to the clubhouse if we put cedeno in as a starter…it might split the clubhouse

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

honestly

I’m not even sure what that means.

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by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously the poster has inside knowledge

about the deep rut in the clubhouse that would be a result of a better player taking over the SS job. Could this be the guy who works for Ryan Theriot?

by sackings108 on Aug 17, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What really annoys me is, all the way through September last year, the offseason, spring training...

….we heard about how Cedeno couldn’t possibly be our starting shortstop, because of his “low baseball IQ” and lack of fundamental play. Now that Theriot is exhibiting a low baseball IQ and bad fundamental play, we’re supposed to ignore all of that because he’s producing, and we’re supposed to use a narrow definition of producing that’s tailored to what Ryan Theriot is good at.

by cwyers on Aug 17, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

alright...

you guys wanna call me out on my post??
Theriot has a better fielding percentage than cedeno at shortstop (source (baseball reference.com) given, theriot has obviously gotten ALOT more play there…but in his limited play, he still hasnt shown lou that he is head and shoulders a better option, as you have said. and the CS problem…if he is so horrible, why does lou give him the greenlight? when you have such a great lineup batting after him.

also…i think that it was pretty jerky to say that just because i said something, that i have “inside information”, and “inside knowledge”. i think that it would be pretty safe to say that alot of players might be torn about who should be the starting SS. it COULD be an issue!
cedeno is not that much of a better, if at all, than theriot. he might steal bases at a better rate. (but he only has 4sb, 1 cs) but i think that this could be fixed, or at least brought to acceptable with theriot.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Aug 17, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Theriot was a respectable 28 of 32 SB last year

Something’s just not clicking with his wheels this year

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 17, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yah...but.....

How many hits get thru the left side when the riot is out there that ONEDEC might likely make a play on?

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Aug 17, 2008 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This debate reminds me of SNK Baseball Stars

where some players have higher ratings in hitting (batting average), batting (power/home runs), running (base running speed) and defense (defensive running and throwing skills).

There were also luck and “prestige points” or money points.

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Aug 18, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who hit the walk off?

Who was pitching for the Suds?

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Eithier

I dunno who was on the bump.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Villenueva(sp?)

Either hit the walk off

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 17, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Confirmed

Ethier off Villanueva

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by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey hey HBCG :)

How about them Cubs today!

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 17, 2008 6:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

:-)

Great job from Demps don’t ya think? :-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

CY Dempster? we’ll see

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 17, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

to think I thought him in the starting rotation was a mistake

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You and me both

I thought it was disaster waiting to happen.

Waiter? Another helping of crow, please?

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i know

i was unsure whether he’d be any good… but he’s got WAY better stuff than I ever realized.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is why I like our Cubs

Bullpen, minus Howrys ups and downs, mostly downs, Cubs have a solid pen, and the Brewers don’t

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Aug 17, 2008 6:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We have the deepest pitching the bigs I think.

Some teams may be better at the front or back ends, but we have the most quality arms, I think.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

sometimes I have to keep myself in check and not get to over confident, but this is the best pitching the Cubs have had since I been a fan since 1970

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Aug 17, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

1989 Cub Pitching Was Decent

Team ERA around 3.4, no?

Still I dig what you’re saying re: 1970. Four very reliable and durable starters, unlike the 1984 staff that all hit the DL the following year and the brittle front end of the 2003-2004 rotation.

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Name more than 4 pitchers from that team....

off the top of your head w/o looking it up…..

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Aug 17, 2008 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Game On!

1970: Fergie Jenkins, Kenny Holtzman, Bill Hands, Milt Pappas, Joe Decker, Phil Regan, Larry Gura, Jim Colborn, Ted Abernathy
1984: Rick Sutcliffe, Steve Trout, Dennis Eckersley, Scott Sanderson, Dick Ruthven, Lee Smith, Tim Stoddard, Warren Brusstar, Rich Bordi
1989: Greg Maddux, Rick Sutcliffe, Mike Bielecki, Steve Wilson, Paul Kilgus, Calvin Schiraldi, Mitch Williams

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Les Lancaster

Piched all innins not pitched by wild thing, madddux, Sutcliffe or Bielecki

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Aug 17, 2008 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it wrong to find pleasure

In seeing the Red Sox get thier punkasses kicked 15-4?

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 17, 2008 6:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nah, it's ok

i was at Fenway a couple of weeks ago for a game. they are all reallll cocky over there now. they’re all look, “ooh look at us, we won the world series”, yada yada,

they also have the audacity to have a sign there that says “Welcome to Fenway Park, AMERICA’S MOST BELOVED BALLPARK”

what??

also, that place is old and decrepit. it makes Wrigley Field look like the Space Shuttle.

by nervousCUBlover on Aug 17, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im no Yankee fan

But Ill tell you this….

Im so sick of the Yankees/Red Sox crap.

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 17, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1 googol

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And it's my job

as a math teacher, to never let it be forgotten :-)

My job is done here…(rides off into the sunset)

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

i find the whole thing fascinating.

And it makes me appreciate our rivals (the cards) much more. At least we can hate the other team w/o being jackasses about it.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Red Sox are like dirt poor people that just won the lottery (twice)

… and don’t know how to handle it…

as opposed to, myself, who, around October 30, 2008, will celebrate the Cubs Championship with a quiet dignity consisting of a 3 week binge of arson, cocaine, champagne, tequilla, high priced hookers, major damage to several hotel rooms, after which I will emerge sometime around Thanksgiving, still, with a huge grin on my face.

by nervousCUBlover on Aug 17, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me...it'll be that long until

I pick my jaw off the floor from the shock of the Cubs winning it all.

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Will Finally Be Able To Watch The Cubs In Peace

No pacing around, no slamming the TV when they lose, no worrying about what the Cards and Brewers are up to, and no more agonizing over why things happened the way they did in 2003, 1984, 1969….

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just want

the commemorative DVD to watch. Over and over and over and over.

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm still watching super bowl XX

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Aug 17, 2008 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was the lasst one, wasn't it?

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Aug 17, 2008 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DODGERS WIN!

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 6:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OH NO!! What would ESPN do

If The Yankees AND Red Sox miss the playoffs?

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 17, 2008 6:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

they will have no more baseball tonight!

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Aug 17, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably become ESPN Classic 2

and show reruns of Boston or Skankees matchups

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ugh.

they’d focus on the cubs… which i think would be awful. I LIKE flying under the radar and being expected to win day to day.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt that

Probably the Dodgers…. who Id love to see win the NL West btw.

Arizona scares me

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 17, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate the short series...

but no one really scares me. Z/Harden/Demps thats a pretty good 3 headed monster.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

Nice to see road wins and comebacks too. I’m feeling good right now

by chitownhawkeye on Aug 17, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone interested In chatting?

Im not doing much tonight Id love to chat up some baseball if your interested:

IM ME on AIM at ChicagoCubs316
or Galvan316 on yahoo..

Id love to hear from ya!

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 17, 2008 6:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"Anyone" meaning "halfblindcubbiegirl", of course.

:)

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let the record show

That carmen fanzone made that comment

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 17, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just tell me I'm wrong...hahaha.

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why because I asked people to im me?

Doesnt make much sense to me

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 17, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't worry

she can only sort of read. :-P

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I tend more to giggle at it then be creeped out

but I am also guessing being female has something to do with that.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, the internet

Where the men are men, the women are men, and really cute teenagers are FBI agents

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not creepy, cubswynn

Galvan doesn’t hide his love for HBCG

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my mother always said

if you love ‘em, you gotta tell ’em….and i haven’t heard that yet

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you mother stutter?

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

over my head

or you missed on that one

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you put "my mother said" twice...

…without anything after it….

or my computer is hiccuping…

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep, it was...

just refreshed…..D’oh

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

talk about my mother again

and you’ll get the sackings treatment!

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

i might be around on yahoo later… but frankly I’m probably going to avoid the computer most of the night.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and by "computer" she means "galvan"

Just kidding you two lovebirds!!! :) (Suddenly in a real silly mood, must be that full game we just gained!)

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

yay for a silly carmen. much better than grumpy carmen…:-)

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true dat

plus I like the fact we’re facing the Reds and Nats this week….. :)

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep. The Reds w/o Adam Dunn too.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And no Griffey

And no Volquez

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do we miss Volquez?

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Believe so

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He hasn't been as near as dominating the 2nd half..

…but we’ll take it.

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Confirmed

He pitched today, so we won’t see him in this series

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

awesome

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And even better

we face Arroyo

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who all do we get?

Cueto, Arroyo and?

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fogg?

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harang

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didnt think that was pretty nice :(

Im just kinda lonely, and wanted to chat with some Cubs fans

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 17, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just teasing ya, Galvan...

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

awww poor galvan

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its not you.

I just need to save my eyes. Too much computer time = migraines.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can relate to that

I was just looking for peeps to chat with…. If you imed me cool…. But I was just looking for someone to chat with.

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 17, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know.

I just wanted you to know it wasn’t personal.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if this is rude, i apologize

but halfblind, what does your name mean?

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 6:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

she's an umpire

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BOOM, BABY!

LOL!

Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!

by drewishdrewid on Aug 17, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not rude.

I’m legally blind in my left eye & blind in my right eye.

I only put it in my screen name b/c I have a tendency to make blind jokes and the last board I was on I got flamed for “being mean to blind people” and frankly it was irritating.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep.

no problem.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do You Use a Voice-Prompt Computer

that verbalizes the content for you?

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do have a screen reader

but for the most part its a bigger hassle than its worth for me. I use large print & reading glasses.

I see decently enough out of my left eye to read.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds Good

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wondered myself

I kind of wondered myself and thank you for telling us.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Aug 17, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

an interesting fanpost would be where did you pick your screen name

we talk to each other all the time. something simple like that I’ve ponder on many occosions.

"We've had our ups and downs, but as long as you have a reason, something to fall back on and a plan, that's all there is to it," Soto said.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 17, 2008 6:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that'd be a fun off day thread.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My real name is Carmen Fanzone

I played for the Cubs in the early 70’s.

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, not really...

….I started watching the Cubs in the 70’s as a kid and picked one of the more unfamous players that I can remember. It was between this and Tom Dettore.

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my license plate is soon to be

cubswyn (since cubswin was already taken)

not sure why i added an extra n to this, i think cubswyn was taken already

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You could try

CUB5WIN or CU65WIN or CUBSW1N

Just a thought

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thought about that

but i liked cubswyn better…dunno why….i was close to going with cubsw1n

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh i think i wasn't clear

i choice cubswynn for my screen name bc my new license plate is gonna be cubswyn….i wanted cubswin for my license plate, but it was already taken

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Online screen names

are about the closest I will get to affording a vanity plate

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

they are really cheap in iowa

first time fee is $25

and every year after that they are only $5 more to renew

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

I’ll check AZ prices.

Still, I’m a teacher…with children…and a budget. (sigh)

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not in Illinois

where the numerals must come after the letters. A lot of states allow numerals and letters to be intermingled though.

by ChipSet on Aug 17, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

CALIfornia CUB fan

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

August

What I love about August is that after the Cubs spanked the Brewers at the end of July, the Brewers have played good baseball, gone .688 in August and find themselves a half game further behind the Cubs. It has to be frustrating to play good ball and yet lose ground.

-Charlemagne

by Charlemagne on Aug 17, 2008 6:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Frustrating

Yes they must be frustrated. Too bad so sad.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Aug 17, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chinese Food tonight

Woo….

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 17, 2008 6:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

deep fried twinkies

wooo…..

thanks iowa state fair haha

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yuck

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 17, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then you would hate

deep-fried Oreos

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the new one this year is

deep fried salad and i have no clue how they do that one

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't a fair come up with

deep-fried Coca-Cola a few years back? I don’t remember how they did it, but still…

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

didn’t hear that one

by cubswynn on Aug 17, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Outback Trumps All

We’re leaving in 15 minutes!

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Outback

Yes I know you don’t make friends with salad but I love the salad with blue cheese and pecans.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Aug 17, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tried

Tried it and liked it.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Aug 17, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

twss

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW: Galvan316

Galvan (my last name) and 316 (just a number)

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 17, 2008 6:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Aramis is spanish for clutch

he wears 16.

I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 17, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So

Aramis was known as ‘the clutch Musketeer’? ;-)

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You've been driving a car with a stick since you were 16?

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWSS

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WTF is Chris Singleton smoking?

The most impressive performance he’s seen is Mark Buerhle’s No hitter? 8 Walks is impressive? What the hell is that

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 17, 2008 6:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mark Guehrle Threw A No-No Today?

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No last year

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 17, 2008 6:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Screenname

I used to be cubbiegirlshamus everywhere which combines Trixie Belden and the Cubs. (Trixie aka schoolgirl shamus)

Kerrysotherwife came from people saying I must be married to Kerry because I kept defending him on other forums.

My current was hoping the Cubs would be in the series before 100 years.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Aug 17, 2008 6:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Trixie As In The Lincoln Park Variety?

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

NO

No. Trixie is a mystery series like Nancy Drew but she was 13 when it began.

My nickname for Ryan Dempster has a Trixie connection. I call him “Jim” because in the books Trixie’s special friend is a green eyed redhead like Ryan.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Aug 17, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha

I wanted to make sure before I asked you about your VW Jetta and your three-wheeled baby stroller and how much money your stockbroker boyfriend-husband makes. LOL

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking "personal nicknames" for players

When DeRo was a Brave, one ex’s mother liked to call him “Pon”.

I may never forgive her for that pun.

by Clutch16 on Aug 17, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trixie Belden?

Since we both know who she is, that must mean…well, we’re old, lol

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

She like WGN is 60 this year.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Aug 17, 2008 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I

am forty-COUGHCOUGH next month

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

40

Turned 40 on July 7th.

Read the books faithfully as a child and still love them today.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Aug 17, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grew up on

Hardy Boys, Danny Dunn and Encyclopedia Brown, myself

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was weird

I prefered the Hardy Boys to the perfect Nancy Drew even though I’m a girl but Trixie rules!

I belong to an extensive Trixie fan group. We have an annual convention type event and when we drove by a group in a parking lot obviously drunk as skunks and acting badly we called it “Must be Nancy Drew convention”

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Aug 17, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or

the Bobbsey Twins Convention ;-)

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Frazier Thomas?

by leothelip on Aug 17, 2008 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES! Encyclopedia Brown!

Oh that Bugs Meany used to give him fits, but Leroy always triumphed in the end.

"Sometimes I feel like as a Cubs fan if I’m not worrying about something, I’m not doing it right." - HalfBlindCubbieGirl

by CaliCub on Aug 17, 2008 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Brains Benton?

Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Aug 18, 2008 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chat

One time in a Cubs forum eons ago we went into a chat room and tried to guess who each other was because we went in with other names.

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Aug 17, 2008 6:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Can anyone tell me

Why the Phillies vs Padres game is Sunday Night Baseball tonight??

What the hell is that

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

"Soriano deep to left!! THAT BALL'S GOOOONE!! A HOME RUN!! OHHH BABY!!" -Len Kasper 8/06/08

SORIANO WATCH: AVG: .293 22 HR 59 RBI

by Galvan316 on Aug 17, 2008 6:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So Cub fans

aren’t subjected to Joe Morgan yet again

"Years of academy training, wasted"--Buzz Lightyear (not a flying toy)

by spoiledcubbage on Aug 17, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because

Because if they didn’t show Padres vs Phillies the terrorists win!

Actually the real reason Phelps isn’t swimming tonight is they knew that Phillies/Padres was so compelling nobody would watch!

Go Cubs

by cubstoseriesby100 on Aug 17, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great Pic

Way to go Dodgers!

The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 17, 2008 7:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs