Mistakes Were Made
by Al Yellon on Aug 18, 2008 8:20 AM CDT
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PrintWhen I make mistakes here -- and I do, every now and then -- I'm usually fairly quickly corrected by a sharp-eyed BCB reader or three, and I'll acknowledge the mistake, fix it and move on.
I'm kind of bored this morning with no Cubs game till tomorrow night, so I thought I'd take this opportunity to point out an error made by AP writer Dave Skretta in this recap of the Yankees' 3-2 win over the Royals on Saturday. In the notes paragraph at the bottom of the recap, he writes:
Yankees INF Cody Ransom made his big league debut in the seventh, pinch-running for [Jason] Giambi.
Cody Ransom is 32 years old and has bounced around the minor leagues since 1998, mostly in the Giants' organization. He played in the majors for Dusty Baker with the Giants in September callups in 2001 and 2002 and Dusty remembered him well enough to have the Cubs sign him to a minor league deal and invite him to spring training in 2005, where he hit .160 in 17 games (4-for-25, 2 doubles, a HR) and spent about half that year at Iowa.
Before he made his first appearance for the Yankees on Saturday he had played in 133 major league games.
Now, I remembered seeing Ransom in spring training in '05 and knew he had played for the Giants. But even if I hadn't, looking up the above information took about five minutes. Maybe I'm being nitpicky, but then again, I'm not being paid by the Associated Press to write game recaps. Dave Skretta should have done just a bit of research -- and especially when you consider that in the AP recaps posted at Yahoo, player names are linked to their profiles, meaning anyone could click on Ransom's name in the Yahoo recap and see that Saturday wasn't his ML debut.
Incidentally, Ransom celebrated his recall to the Yankees yesterday; he was sent up to bat for Giambi in the 7th inning with the Yankees leading 12-3 and hit a two-run homer off Jeff Fulchino.
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"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
by Bump Bailey on Aug 18, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Al, reading the Saturday's game recap
I think you made a mistake when you wrote that Jim Edmonds had a hit in the 7th. I think Reed Johnson pitch-hit for him because Arthur Rhodes was coming in. I know it’s little, but I’m a detail kind of guy.
You're right.
Did I write that? I knew Johnson had hit for Edmonds, who was hitting for the pitcher.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I'm not surprised at something like this.
It seems like with the addition of several media outlets including blogs, writers don’t seem to feel the need to be as accurate as possible. Maybe it was an honest mistake, but it seems like if you are producing material for a wire service, you should be as accurate as possible. If it was just lazy-assed reporting, then shame on him. The profession deserves a better effort.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 18, 2008 8:50 AM CDT reply actions
Oh sure, Ransom has played in the majors before...
…but you haven’t played in the BIG leagues until you’ve played in YANKEE STADIUM.
Mistakes are overrated,
I’ve made a ton of them!
On another note, yesterday Pat Hughes was talking about he cubs wins in one run games and two run games, throwing a little caution in the wind. Does anyone have those? The numbers did not bode well for close games in the playoffs and I was a little surprised.
Make no mistake about this, it is fun being a cub fan right now!
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
Are they really overrated? Would you tend
to trust a story from a writer who constantly makes mistakes in his reporting? I agree that there doesn’t seem to be the attention called to mistakes as there once was. Reading some articles is apparent that there isn’t the importance to proofreading as ther once was, but a wire service article or a column in a major city paper are not responses to a blog post. They should be accurate and it’s the writes job to research the facts.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 18, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Sorry. Hope this isn't taken as snarky
but I was laughing hard reading this.
apparent that there isn’t the importance to proofreading as ther once was
sic. :)
You get my point?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 18, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I stand accused.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 18, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Cubs are 17-18 in 1 run games
will have to do check the scores individually to get the 2 run games…
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
Looks like 11-13 in 2 run games
if I didn’t miss any.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
That is because the only way to beat the Cubs
Is by one run or two. It’s not like they get blown out very often.
I think this is more unnecessary hand wringing.
Current temperature in hell: 45 degrees F - and falling!
It might pay to check those
numbers agaist recent WS winners. I suspect most good teams would win slightly over half of thier 0ne and two run margin games. Those games tend to go either way based on breaks the fact that most of those games tend to be against better competition.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 18, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Just for grins
The TB Rays are 23-13 in 1 run games but only 19-16 in 5+ run games, so I guess it’s 6 of one, half dozen of another. WIns are wins.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
FYI the Cubs are 25-11 in games decided by 5+ runs
So, we may not have a GREAT record in close games, but in all others, we rock! We’ll see what the numbers are in 1 and 2 run games are at the end of the season. We’ll probably be pretty close to .500 when it’s all said and done.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
and how many of those games were 1-run games until we blew it open?
"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."
Wow, I would have to look at each boxscore to filter that
give me some time to work on that. Have to squeeze in some actual work here at work today, so don’t know when I’ll get to that LOL
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
Just going back
and looking at the box scores on some of the early season blowouts, most of our blowout wins were well in hand early in the game. Of the first 11 blowout wins, we were only one run up or actually behind in 3 of them in the 6th or 7th inning. The other 8, we were 5 or more up by the 4th or 5th.
Of the first 4 blow out losses, the opposition was ahead by 5+ by the 5th, on average. There are 36 individual games to look at, and I really don’t have the time to document them all. Head over to HERE to view each game.
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This is strange timing
I was at the I-Cubs game on Friday night and in the sky box area there are a bunch of pictures of former I-Cubs…pretty impressive list….well there was one of Cody Ransom..for the life of me I couldn’t remember who he was…..well now I do…
thanks
I'm a reader not a poster, but I'm also a poster so don't get any ideas.
forget about a reporter who does not do his research I could care less
First thing most reporters are not sports fans or former athletes, they are writers and don’t really know the games they cover.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Is it they don't know the
games or are some just a bit lazy? Maybe they figure the casual fan doesn’t know when they read innacurate information or they don’t care. I know I would have a hard time witing stories on a regular basis if I felt that the readers aren’t paying much attention to what I write.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 18, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
That's not an excuse.
If you’re going to put facts in your articles, you should check to make sure the facts are correct.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
+1
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 18, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
(Joking) But Facts Get In the Way of Good Stories
(Joking) Find out the conclusion you want and manufacture facts to support your claim. Accuracy doesn’t matter. (Again, joking)
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
You may be joking, but you aren't too far from the truth.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 18, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
and that is the viewpoint
it is not the facts that matter, it is the storyline…the drama, the irony, their interest, the angle, the dea that the reader is easily amused and not interested in the real story.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
If facts don't matter, don't include them.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 18, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
I gotta disagree with this.
It seems to me that most sports reporters are, indeed, huge sports fans – that’s why they pursued that career path in the first place. And even if a reporter isn’t a sports fan, he or she should still know the games in question. Would a reporter sent to cover the war in Iraq not be expected to be familar with the history and current events in that region?
Nanika Ga Okoru!
And if not...
… I’d think it’d be that reporter’s job to do enough research so that they DO know those things, no matter what the topic.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I think it shows a complete lack
of professionalism when a so-called sports reporter doesn’t know about a particular sport he or she is reporting. You are in the sports business, you should know what the hell you are talking about. If you don’t know, find out. With the internet, information is right at your fingertips. I don’t care if it’s pro football or cricket. If I as a casual sports fan know more about a subject than the person reporting, it wrong!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 18, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
In this case, Skretta’s error was particularly egregious because it was so easily avoided. Does this guy have an e-mail address? Someone should send him a link to this thread – it might ruin his day, but it could save his job.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
The sad part about it is
that I don’t even think his editor would take him task for this. There really doesn’t seem to be a lot of outcry about stuff like this. No one seems accountable. I had heard that news outlets had fact checkers to catch things like this, but I haven’t seen much evidence that they exist.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 18, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Sullivan used to get one fact wrong per game
He seems to have gotten a bit better.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Paul Sullivan? Don't get me started on that hack!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 18, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Sullivan's OK...
… but the point above is relevant. Isn’t that part of the editor’s job? To fact-check? Or to hire someone for that job?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
The reporter is supposed to check any facts included in their story
but NOTHING that is factually incorrect should get by the editor…They are the last line of defense. It is understood that reporters are on deadline and often working more than one story, and t the editor is supposed to catch the little mistakes…
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 18, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
With cutbacks everywhere
sometimes there is NOBODY to proof somebody’s copy. When reporters are working on very tight deadlines, sometimes they forget to check facts.
That’s no excuse, but without other layers of people to edit — these days, stuff is going to leak through. The media has been stripped to the bone in many ways.
When I am a one-person radio news department on weekednds, I try to double-check my work before it airs. However, mistakes happen when writing quickly. I’ve caught and corrected them ASAP.
Just sayin….
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 18, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Especially hard to catch
stuff when it’s your own, and your eyes are doing the checking…Many brain farts…
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 18, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry!
I did say “a bit”, tho…
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
How much research does it take?
That reporter could have:
1. Looked on the Internet (Baseball Reference, MLB.com, etc.)
2. Read the Yankees’ press notes for Saturday, p. 8.
3. Asked the Yankees’ PR director
4. Asked any media member who regularly covers baseball and remembered the error Ransom committed in the playoffs for the Giants
5. Gone into the clubhouse and asked Ransom
Not a huge amount of effort required.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
really?
When I make mistakes here — and I do, every now and then — I’m usually fairly quickly corrected by a sharp-eyed BCB reader or three, and I’ll acknowledge the mistake, fix it and move on.
Really? Because the Lee/Aram bases loaded thing hasn’t been fixed.
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I don't know if you are being serious or
needling Al, but he really isn’t the issue here. Reporters and columnist are being paid good money to do their jobs. Al is running a blog. There is a difference. Part of reporting and writing columns is being accurate. If I can’t trust the validity of the facts in a story, it’s not worth the paper on which it’s being printed.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 18, 2008 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
You seem to only show up here when you're correcting me...
… but didn’t we go over this yesterday?
I think it’s time for this:
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
heh...
I just thought it was funny that you are talking about correcting your mistakes when you didn’t correct yesterday’s. :)
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by big_lowitzki on Aug 18, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I think we knew you were making a joke at Al's expense, and believe me I am all for that,
I think that maybe this subject does warrant some serious discussion.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 18, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions
my old coaching friend will like this I have to save it to my desktop
he used to beat dead horse more than a politician
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Just in case he'd rather have the classic look...
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
That one is much classier.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 18, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
That's the one I prefer.
Lowitzki, Ramirez is a better hitter right now, and has been since April. That’s why they shouldn’t have walked Lee. Get over it.
by sackings108 on Aug 18, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree...
… not sure what your point is.
I never say that they should have walked Lee.
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by big_lowitzki on Aug 18, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Epic
That made my day, on a day when two weeks of work got ruined.
by dr stabbingworth on Aug 18, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Facts
Facts are simple and facts are straight
Facts are lazy and facts are late
Facts all come with points of view
Facts don’t do what I want them to
Facts just twist the truth around
Facts are living turned inside out
Facts are getting the best of them
Facts are nothing on the face of things
Facts don’t stain the furniture
Facts go out and slam the door
Facts are written all over your face
Facts continue to change their shape
No point, I just like getting a Talking Heads reference in there now and again. :)
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
This has inspired me to create a signature line.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I still think "Lost my shape, trying to act casual/Can't stop, I might end up in the hospital"
Is one of the most bizarre opening lines to a song ever….lol
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 18, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
I think this post is inappropriate
First, you’re reading that sentence with an awfully narrow interpretation. It’s possible, and maybe even likely, that the reporter was referring to a big league debut for the YANKEES. Perhaps he should have been clearer but, in my opinion, you’re nitpicking like crazy.
Second, you too have made mistakes, Al, and you readily admitted that in your post. But you are attacking this writer’s credibility based on a mistake which could easily just be one of omission of three words, rather than a factual error. I expect, based upon your response to posts at Desipio in the past, that you would be pretty upset if they went through random posts of yours and called you out for your tiny mistakes with articles on their website, in front of the community that you write for. I get the AP/Blog distinction, but how is that any different?
It said "big league debut".
I don’t think there can be any different interpretation of that. If he had wanted to say “Yankee debut” he should have said “Yankee debut”.
Yes, it’s nitpicking. I said I was bored today.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Didn't Confucious say
“those who pick nits always lose”? LOL
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
Just trying to lighten the mood...
;)
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fair enough
I just think this was a bit beyond the scope of this website and somewhat inappropriate, especially given your response to people who correct you.
Disagree.
Al’s post is both Cubs- and baseball-related. How is it “beyond the scope of this website”? And it’s a time-honored tradition for bloggers to take the mainstream media to task for its laziness and inaccuracy.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
you're probably right
about the scope thing. If I could edit that I would…
I still think that the response of Al and people on this website when people correct him is notably different than it is when he does something like this. That’s more what I’m referring to.
By the way, I love FJM and have been linking to them on this site for probably a year and a half. So I do agree about the bloggers/MSM comment.
OK, well...
…seems to me that, when someone graciously points out a mistake in one of Al’s recaps, he’s more than willing to correct it. Disputes over matters of opinion are less easily resolved, but that’s par for the course on any blog.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
it's Al's blog
as long as it’s about baseball, how can it be inappropriate?
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 18, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
sigh - let me clarify
As I said, if I could remove the scope comment I would. I know it’s Al’s blog, and I often say the same thing to myself when people complain about the content of some posts.
In any case, I think that it’s inappropriate to correct a very small mistake that might not even be one, as i said in my first post. I think that it’s inappropriate because Al doesn’t take especially kindly to outside media outlets (specifically Desipio) calling him out, and yet he thinks it’s appropriate to do just that here.
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 18, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
semantics
I think you can think it’s wrong.
But it’s Al’s blog. If he deems it appropriate, it cannot, by definition, be inappropriate.
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 18, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
in addition... some posts from yesterday's recap:
These are all in response to Big_Lowitzki’s correction of Al.
“Did he shoot your dog or something?”
-TCobb1911
“I think we get the point, dude. It was an accident. Why not comment with this amount of tenacity when the facts are right?”
“Sigh – Always someone.”
-dtpollitt
“hm. there’s something to be said about wanting to be completely accurate in everything you do, but generally, when people notice small mistakes or lapses in logic, they tend to let it go. you’re reading a baseball discussion forum man, not a freaking dissertation for a PhD. Let it go.”
-ThisIsResolute
I just think the responses to Lowitzki’s post yesterday and Al’s post today are quite interesting in their differences.
Well I'll agree with you on that.
The attack dog routine has gotten a little old.
by sackings108 on Aug 18, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I think its the nature of blogs
Its much harder to calm things down once they get started and it starts to look like a chorus, all attacking the same person. If we were all in the same room it would be much easier to calm things down. I think the trick is to not let it get to you & try to not get involved.
NONE OF THIS IS PERSONALLY AIMED AT SACKINGS108
And the fact that I need to put that illustrates my point
Nah, it's not you Stan.
There are just certain people who will jump on anyone who dares disagree w/ Al. I think Al can defend himself just fine, but instead of being able to have a disagreement w/ Al, you have to answer to Sue, Kinky, et al. It’s stupid.
by sackings108 on Aug 18, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Name calling is also stupid
and you do that quite often.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
You called someone a bum
and said “you must be an idiot” to somone else. SouthsideCubsfan asked you yesterday to stop the name calling.
It’s not just the name calling. I don’t know if you realize how snarky you come across. Comments like. “can you pass what your smoking” and today you had a reply to Lowitzki that started out fine but you had to end it with “get over it”. Others on here have called you out on your snarkiness. I know you are very young and probably think it’s funny or cool but it’s not.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
Since you can't back up your point,
you seem to like to refer to me as very young, as if that somehow proves something. Yeah, I’m 18, and you may be very old. That has nothing to do with anything. The fact is, your replies are often just as snarky as you claim mine are. You also choose to cherry pick things to prove your point. Yesterday, I did refer to cubswynn as an idiot, after he called me a “debbie downer.” I though it was stupid of him to say that, but also immediately responded to SSCubsfan criticism of me calling cubswynn an idiot, and admitted I was in the wrong. Beyond that, I haven’t called anyone any names. But you seem loathe to actually discuss real things, instead you decide to marginalize arguments by saying that I must think its cool to be snarky because I’m young.
Good point Sue. Makes plenty of sense. The fact is, you hate when people disagree with you. I referred to Kosuke Fukudome as “Fuku” the other day, and you had a fit about it, and decided you would “call me out on it” from here on out. Why? Because apparently you have nothing better to do than worry about the nicknames I use for Cub players. You’re just as snarky as I ever have been.
And thanks for demonstrating how I name call “quite often.” Excellent job of proving your point.
cmon, guys
wouldn’t you rather add to the growing legion of Milton stories instead of this? :D
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 18, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
we're where the action is AT!
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 18, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
And another thing
I HATE THE WORD SNARKY!
Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?
by Kinky Reggae on Aug 18, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Was I the only
one who asked you not call Dome that? I think there were others who asked you not to call him that too were there not?
You also called someone a bum when you got into it with preacherman so it was more than once.
I get along with most people on this board. I stay away from the “who should play ss” stuff because I get tired of all of that argument. If that to you means I loathe actually discussing “real” things so be it.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
There were others who said it was wrong for me to say "Fuku"
but I was talking to you right now. Please explain to me how “quite often” means the same thing as “twice” because I must’ve missed that day in class.
Oh, and poop.
Again
my question is why you drag me into this. I didn’t participate in any of these conversations.
Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?
by Kinky Reggae on Aug 18, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I was wrong for that.
I just remembered you from a previous argument, but shouldn’t have put your name in there.
Okay...
I appreciate that.
Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?
by Kinky Reggae on Aug 18, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
You called names
twice in the last two days. That’s enough. No name calling is one of the rules on this board and you apologized for it.
What’s wrong with saying poop when things don’t go well? It’s better than saying something else. You do realize that othe people on here say that too?
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
Because you called me
out in a post above to Stan.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
Yeah, about how you jump all over anyone who disagrees w/ Al.
Like a few posts below. when you told tal to leave after he made a valid post, free of any snark.
All of the nit picky crap
posted towards Al lately has gotten very old. He works his butt off in here besides working a full time job and raising a family. I appreciate every thing he does in here and hate when people only come in here only to criticize his efforts. He has admitted he makes mistakes and is usually very cordial when they are brought to his attention.
I don’t defend him that often(he does a fine job by himself) but the last couple of months it’s been ridiculous.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
Oh nice
dragging me into this? The only time I have a problem with someone disagreeing with someone else is when I share that same opinion. I have no clue which friggin conversation you are even bitching about but try dragging someone who was ACTUALLY involved into your drama…not me.
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by Kinky Reggae on Aug 18, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
The attack dog routine........
…..never gets old!
"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher
If little things
like that bothered me as much as it seems to be bothering you I’d just quit visiting the site.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
No it isn't true. If somebody doesn't like something, they have every right to say it,
and tal was being completely civil about it. You’re a complete hypocrite, Sue. Calling me snarky, and then saying this:
If little things like that bothered me as much as it seems to be bothering you I’d just quit visiting the site.
No it is true.
If you disagree that’s fine.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
sue you don't need to defend me....
….bc hontestly the name calling thing doesn’t bother me….it truly doesn’t, but others do, so i don’t do it
i’m embarrassed to be apart of this discussion and although i want to defend myself, i won’t
can’t you just let it go sackings, i have
The homerun by Ransom was off Jeff Fulchino
Billy Traber, former Loyola Marymount Lion, is on the Yankees.
The critical thing to understand is that major-league pitchers don't appear to have the ability to prevent hits on balls in play. There are many possible reasons why this is the case, and I don't really have a concrete idea as to why it is.
But the one thing I do know is that it is the case.
--Voros McCracken
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah, you’re probably right.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
No doubt about it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Crew and Stros at 7.
That’s something.
make/art
by neverAcquiesce on Aug 18, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Thw Brewers-Astros game
is on ESPN tonight. That should be interesting, as the Stros have been playing really well this past week.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.
by Matt Allison on Aug 18, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone want to do a game thread?
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
I'm actually spending this particular off-night
shopping for clothes (pants, mutter) and watching National Geographic videos with my kid.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 18, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
sounds like a fun night.
I’ll be watching the Olympics
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
My DVR is at 85%
I’ve been too busy watching Cubs games to catch up on other programing.
"Destiny is a matter of choice, not chance"
Great. Bulletin board material.
Maybe it’ll get in the Brewers’ heads, though.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
OT
Kyle Orton named Bears starting QB. Like that’s gonna help them..:)
"Whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball." - Jacque Barzun
poor Orton....
I don’t envy anyone tasked with standing behind that O-Line…
I suggest long snapping to Hester on every play and just letting him run for it.
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
I feel bad for Kyle.
If they had a better offensive line he might do ok.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
And so would Grossman.
I predict at least half the games will be QBd by more than one player.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 18, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
snort! snicker...
er, ahahah.
Heh.
that’s right! Good luck to you, sir packer fan! :D
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 18, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
well, I'm more optimistic about Aaron Rodgers than any of you seem to be about
your two headed monster, but I guess that’s because of their repeated failure.
Drew, I'll bet you $20 the Packers have a better record than the Bears this year
WIth the winnings going to Project 3000
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the Vikings take both of us this year.
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by neverAcquiesce on Aug 18, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
That is possible . . .
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
alright, I'll take that bet
When do we check? Jan 15 2009?
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 18, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking regular season.
If by some ridiculous quirk, they both make the playoffs, we can make another bet.
How about — regular season records. If they tie, we go to head to head. If that’s tied, we go to total points. If that’s tied, well, it’s not going to be, so let’s just say if it is we both lose!
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Going to the Convention?
We could give the payment to Al…
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I would LOVE to go to the convention this year.
So we could definitely meet up there. There should be a BCB convention meetup anyway.
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 18, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like a plan.
We’ve got a brew-stro thread going btw
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't dislike this.
Grossman’s a better passer…if he’s facing a defense of one. This makes me feel a little better.
make/art
by neverAcquiesce on Aug 18, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Just glad the Bears didn't name DeRo as their starting QB :-)
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Speaking of awesomely researched articles....
Check out this Randy Hill gem from FoxSports
It features such insights as:
(With regard to batting order):
The third hole can be occupied by first-year Cub Kosuke Fukudome
Where he has exactly zero ABs this season. But that’s okay because
Jim Edmonds, the former St. Louis Cardinal who hit miserably during an early run as a San Diego Padre, can hit third now….
Where he has been slotted for exactly one game this season (not sure if it was with the Cubs or the Fathers). Speaking of Jimmy Baseball
if the Cubs are hitting against a southpaw that might give Edmonds trouble (not likely, based on history)
Huh? Against LHP, who are not likely to give him trouble, Jimmy’s batting a robust .167/.222/.262
But we’re lucky that we have:
super-sub Mike Fontenot, who….has enough glove skill to play several different positions.
Good to have, as Lou’s been able to slot him in this season in an array of positions, including and limited to second base and pinch hitter.
…And on it goes… Not that I mind some positive press, but could you at least watch the team that you are writing about? Sheesh…
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
wow.
talk about mistakes; this guy’s a blue-light special.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 18, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Addendum:
The one game that Edmonds played, batting third was this past Saturday against the Marlins. Didn’t realize that when I wrote the above.
So maybe Randy Hill watched part of 1 game before writing his article.
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
What...
no mention of Rich Hill in our starting rotation? :)
The only stats I care about are the ones on the back of a baseball card
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 18, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
No...
He’s busy backing up Fonzie in left. He’s the left handed power bat that Lou’s been looking for.
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
Well
Rich Hill making a comeback as an outfielder has been suggested. :)
(please note: I only post that because it is directly responsive to bobby’s post, I’m not a hapless shill!)
by Brett Taylor on Aug 18, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Off Day Activities
I am going to make use of my off day by going to double feature of VERY rare French crime thrillers ( films of course) from 1947 and 56. I am a huge film buff but hardly see much during the season ( I like mostly old stuff) . The last off day I went swimming in the lake as I was in Chicago.
Hope the rest of you find some pleasant activity ( besides watching the Astros/Brewers). We should get some rest just like the players.
"see " you all tomorrow.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
i got so much work done today...
…i wonder if people noticed this only happens on off-days?!? let’s go astros!
Astros /Brewers thread happening tonight?
Fat , drunk , and ,stupid is now way to go through life son.
Well, at the bottom of the first inning
ESPN2 listed the score billboard as Astros and CUBS!
Wonder what the brew crew nation thinks of that.
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (#13031 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list...)
I'd hang around for a bit.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions
after 2 out and no one on. ugh
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
listening in on gameday audio here, I'm in Dallas on business
Fat , drunk , and ,stupid is now way to go through life son.
I live in WI, so I could let you know in advance, if you want
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
sure thanks, just bored to death in my hotel room here, I hate off days
Fat , drunk , and ,stupid is now way to go through life son.
Alright, Wolf up with a runner on 2nd, 2 out
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Emelie! Well, now I HAVE to stick around for a little while.
;-)
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
are you travelling?
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
How'd the presentation go?
I’m glad I’m not in Shanghai right now. Hotter than hell, and the air smells like, well, it just smells.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
presentation tomorrow afternoon. Of course I’m slotted as the last session of the last day, but it should still be good.
I would never expect Shanghai to smell like San Diego… lol!
It has it's moments
But they don’t come in July or August.
Good luck on the presentation!
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
What is the topic?
Or would you have to kill me?
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Digital Natives vs. Digital Immigrants
on the difference between those who are "Born Digital" (computers in the home from time of birth) vs. those who weren’t, i.e., Digital Natives vs. Digital Immigrants. Impact on the workplace and how we need to rethink how we conceive and deliver content so it becomes more engaging and interactive.
Cool!
There is a huge disparity, as you know better than I do.
My sister had a laptop PC that the computer shop couldn’t fix, and my then 8-year old nephew insisted on trying to fix it. She made him do it outside because she didn’t want him making a mess in the house . . . he took it apart, put it back together . . . and it worked.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
not that it's programming
but it’s a similar point
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey Emelie
Re-trying my Q from last time:
The divisions between Natives and Immigrants. I’d assume age is a large determining factor, correct? If so, is there a well defined line of demarcation?
age is the demarcation
it starts from the advent of Pong in 1974. So if you remember Pong, played it in your youth (13 or younger), you’d be the bleeding edge of Digital Natives.
Pong
sorry, was of negative age at time. =)
It’s certainly a relevant topic for BCB! In fact, BCB may well be a good laboratory for such a study, given the age distributions here.
Hey—you’re not secretly taking notes on us, now….
I'll bet she is
She seems quite the socialogical guru . . .
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
join us on the fan post thread
link at the bottom
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
damn.
I was going to ask YOU for a job!
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, I need a job too.
uh oh. Bunch of unemployed people talking to each other.
figures, since we have so much time to spend on the blog. =)
Not unemployed, at least not yet!
Hey, I can hire you if you have engineering experience. But the job is in Shanghai, and I can’t pay much…
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm considering becoming a grad student
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
considering going after an MBA
It’s a long, winding road…
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
and you?
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's just figuring out what to do when I grow up, I suppose.
EE was my undergrad major, btw.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Wolf strikes out to end the Houston 2nd.
1-0
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions
Woman with really big hair in the seats
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions
Cameron fans to start the home 2nd
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply actions
Kendall pops to Tejada; 2 out
Still there, alabebo?
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply actions
ah, ok. then I'll stick around for a bit more
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Good for Maddux
Maybe now he can get those two wins to pass Roger ‘The Needle’ Clemens on the all time win list
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 18, 2008 7:46 PM CDT reply actions
What happened?
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Maddux traded to Dodgers...
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
Ah, was wondering if that's what that was about
Nothing on ESPN.com yet
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Acquired by the Dodgers
for a PTBNL.
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 18, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Sabathia called out on strikes to end the 2nd.
Alright, looks like I’m talking to myself. I’m sure MCF will stop by and read this, then give me crap later. Good night, all.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply actions
Brewer VP of communications looks like Jeff Daniels
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions
what's up
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
alrighty.
I’ll stick around for another inning or two, anyway
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I just put the game on too.
Will have to leave the office soon. The dogs are waiting for me!
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
Is that the name or breed?
;-)
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I love collies
spent a part of my childhood in farmland NY state. Lots of collies. Great dogs. We had a bulldog named Midge and a mongrel named Zilla (after Godzilla). I’m still a cat gal, for better or for worse, as you all know.
I was never a cat fan
but the older border collie (3 yrs) acts more like a cat. He loves to be petted and cuddled. I think he was ignored too much when he was young. We did not get him until he was 18 mos old.
THIS IS OUR CENTURY!!
Erstand strikes out to start the 3rd
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:51 PM CDT reply actions
Erstad*
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:51 PM CDT reply actions
Loretta singles
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:52 PM CDT reply actions
Tejada flies to center
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply actions
Berkman grounds to short
1-0 mid 3
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:54 PM CDT reply actions
Not a great pic to compare, but:
Brewer VP of communications, Tyler Barnes:
Jeff Daniels:
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions
The Brewer guy slimmed down a bit since that pic was taken
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Ray Durham leads off the home 3rd
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:56 PM CDT reply actions
and strikes out swinging
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Good news on the injury front..
I hear Rickie Weeks is day-to-day with his thumb owie
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 18, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions
Not sure if they're worse with Weeks or Durham
Except Durham hits a little.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I prefer the Crew lineup
with 4 regulars under .250
Get Weeks back in there before Ned figures out that he has a ballplayer on his bench
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 18, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'll buy that
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Hardy lines out to short
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 7:59 PM CDT reply actions
OT: Rays lead Angels 5-2 top of 6th...
Quite a series here in Tampa….
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
That does sound like a good matchup
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Too bad no one is watching in person....
…the attendance here is pathetic. I hope the Rays are in the WS against the Cubs….
1) it will be fun to pack the Trop with Cub fans.
2) it will be the only way I get to see WS games in person.
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
Yeah, I wonder what would happen
Would the “fanbase” sell their tickets for the Series?
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
There aren't that many season ticket holders...
…but the few fans they have are pretty loyal. Still, I don’t see it being a tough ticket…they have whole sections of seats in the upper deck of the dome that they cover for the regular season.
I imagine if demand required it they will open those seats and sell them to whoever wants them.
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
Well, that could get interesting
I’ll bet a lot of Cubs fans would travel south.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Also a ton of midwest retirees here...
…that I imagine will be ecstatic to see one Cubs WS game before they go….
…they don’t call it “God’s waiting room” for nothing! ;-)
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
lol
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Braun caught looking to end the 3rd
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:01 PM CDT reply actions
Brewers have 1 run on 1 hit, Houston 0 runs on 4 hits
CC with 4 strikeouts, Wolf with 5
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply actions
Since you can't argue balls and strikes
or you get ejected, I always wonder what those conversations are like when the batter is jawing with the ump, like Braun just did after his strikeout.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.
You can argue, but you've got to be very careful
About what you say and your body language
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
One key hit
and Charlie Cheeseburger could be beat tonight.
Can the ’Stros build a threat?
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 18, 2008 8:05 PM CDT reply actions
Wigginton grounds to 3rd
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:06 PM CDT reply actions
Yowza
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm falling behind on PBP
Blum grounds to 3rd.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:07 PM CDT reply actions
Pence grounds to short
Two hard hit balls, but no runners. Mid 4, 1-0.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply actions
Sabathia
is too good. The only hope is to get into that awful Brewer bullpen.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.
My great uncle used to say
“A good pitcher like that has to lose once in a while.”
Take that for what you will…
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Helluva trade for those guys.
They would be screwed without him. And I’ll still be shocked if Sheets makes it all the way to the end without being injured in some way.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.
by Matt Allison on Aug 18, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
He had a minor owie earlier in the year
But he’s still going.
Yeah, that was the right move. They gave up a lot, but they’ve got a narrow window. If they don’t win this year, they probably don’t get close for a couple of years – but you never know.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I just won't feel comfortable until the Cubs have a 10 game lead
Fat , drunk , and ,stupid is now way to go through life son.
I like what Al said a day or two ago
I’ll be comfortable when they clinch. Until the playoffs.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah after last year the playoffs scare the hell out of me, what a collapse, but I think we're a better team for it this year
Fat , drunk , and ,stupid is now way to go through life son.
I do, too.
I think there is a determination to do better.
Of course, still gotta play.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Fielder hits a foul DEEP to left
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:11 PM CDT reply actions
Fielder walks
after being down 0-2
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:13 PM CDT reply actions
Hart singles sharply to center
1st and 2nd, 0 out
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:14 PM CDT reply actions
Hall flies to the track
Both runners move up. Great slide by Hart.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:15 PM CDT reply actions
So we're discussing suds-stars here?
I’m stuck with the FSN WI announcers…I forgot how awful they were. Who’s doing ESPN?
U rah rah!
Emelie says Morgan. ESPN blocked out for me, too. You in the dorm?
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I love Madison in the summer.
Haven’t gotten there this summer yet.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, I just arrived yesterday,
but it’s nice. I was working today so didn’t enjoy the weather, but I did get to get around Madison a bit, which was nice
Steve Phillips and I'm unsure of the PxP guy....
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
blacked out here, listening on gameday audio
Fat , drunk , and ,stupid is now way to go through life son.
Cameron flies to shallow right.
Kendall intentionally walked. Bases loaded for CC, 2 out.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah, that's a HUGE momentum shift
Not a real good pitch, knowing that Sabathia can hit.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
2-run single CC
3-0
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions
Let's hope
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Too bad
That could have been a momentum swing the other way, too
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 18, 2008 8:20 PM CDT reply actions
Crud
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Randy Wolf....
…yes, he was the missing link for an Astros’ run….and Ed Wade is an idiot.
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
SHOULD WE POST A THREAD?
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 18, 2008 8:21 PM CDT reply actions
Launch a rally thread
for the enemy of my enemy, the Astros…
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 18, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
OT: Cliff Floyd 2-3 with a 2 run HR for Rays....
He’s been a great DH for them this year….
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
Packers 6, Texans 0
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
TWSS
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Ugh. 6-0
here’s the post, if you still want it
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:26 PM CDT reply actions
Thread, that is
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 18, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Anybody watch the last season of THE WIRE?
For some reason I’m reminded of it in this post.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
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