OT: Maddux to Dodgers
by jbau on Aug 18, 2008 7:44 PM CDT
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So says the LA times.
I guess the injury news on Penny was enough to prompt a move by the Dodgers. I don't think this is a huge impact on the Cubs post-season picture or anything, but OTOH, it's good for him to get out of that depressing situation in SD. The 1-0 loss to Moyer was really sad. I believe that's his last start for SD, correct? If so, it's a fitting end for that tenure.
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My only comment is...
…how did this NOT happen sooner! Pads have been practically begging Dodgers to make this deal.
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow from the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind...
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall, I'll bid the bleacher bums adieu,
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue. --Steve Goodman
Not quite
the Padres have been begging the Dodgers to give up something good for Maddux. They’ve been completely unwilling to give him up for little or nothing. The Padres don’t do favors for the Dodgers.
We don’t know what’s going back yet, but I imagine with the Penny problem the Dodgers finally coughed up a prospect big enough to make this worth the Padres while.
Borowy . . .Sutcliffe . . .Harden?
Good pickup
For the Dodgers, depending on who they end up giving the Fathers.
Anything can happen come October (as Dane Cook hellishly reminded us all last year forty-seven BILLION times). This, plus getting Manny makes the Dodgers a dangerous team to play over 5 or 7 games.
"Hey! If the moon were made of ribs, wouldja eat it? I know I would!"
Speaking of which
Does anyone know who the new guy in the MLB “There’s Only One October!” commercials is?
CUBS WIN! CUE THE ORCHESTRA!
That guy in those Aquas commercials...
…reminds me of Dane Cook. I’ve really grown to detest those ads.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 18, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I think this really helps the Dodgers.
Good for Greg, too, getting out of that morass in SD.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
LOL
whats morass?
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 18, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Definition:
A mess that wears a tie.
Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.
actual definition
any confusing or troublesome situation, esp. one from which it is difficult to free oneself; entanglement.
- dictionary.com
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thank you both...
funny word…goes into the bank of my memory
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark
by preachermancubsfan on Aug 18, 2008 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
It's that thing you get
when you’re Michael Phelps and you come home with 8 gold medals.
by dr stabbingworth on Aug 19, 2008 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly my thoughts
Maddux deserves a better team than SD. Atleast the Dodgers aren’t totally out of the race yet.
"That guy is a gamer." said Ron Santo of Reed Johnson on 07-25-08
by love the ivy on Aug 19, 2008 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I saw Maddux earlier at Wrigley
…and he lost, badly, but he still looked like a solid major league pitcher, and there’s something to be said about having a rotation full of solid major league pitchers.
One thing you learned as a Cubs fan: when you bought you ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth.
Joe Garagiola
by Ryan at Cubshub on Aug 18, 2008 8:01 PM CDT reply actions
Looking WAY far ahead of ourselves...
If there is a Cubs/Dodgers opening round playoff matchup it will be interesting to see if Maddux starts. Right now their rotation is Lowe-Billingsley-Kuroda-Kershaw . Do you give the savvy veteran a start? His last playoff start didn’t go so well….but the whole drama of Maddux vs. the Cubs in the playoffs makes for a good story.
I love Maddux...
…and what he respresents, but I think he is working on the last few drips from the tank.
If the Dodgers have injury problems, he certainly is a good pickup (especially pitching in Dodger Stadium) for the remainder of this year. If the Dodgers do make the playoffs, I would be a little surprised if Maddux gets a start.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Lowe, Billingsley and Kuroda............
…………are post-season locks as starters, but I don’t think any team would bey wanting to trot them out more than twice in a series.
If the Dodgers go with 4 starters, Kershaw certainly has the stuff, but he’s also very young. Torre might prefer the veteran given the circumstances.
Of course, if Penny returns all bets are off, but that doesn’t seem promising.
With the Dodgers likely to start on the road, seeing Mad Dog start in a Game Three at Chavez Ravine is not out of the question.
"Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle." ~ George Burns
Good for the Dodgers, good for the Cubs.
Let’s hope Manny, Ethier, et al. can give Maddog some run support. And let’s hope this pushes the Dodgers over the D’Backs once and for all, so the Cubs won’t find themselves in that netherwordly hellhole called Chase Field again this year.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 18, 2008 8:28 PM CDT reply actions
Maddux could struggle pitching outside of Petco,
think he has around a 6.00 ERA on the road. Dodger Stadium is pretty pitcher friendly thought too, so maybe he can have a good finish.
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Yes, his road ERA is 5.75 at the moment.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 18, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Maddux' lifetime ERA in Dodger Stadium is 3.09.
He made one start there this year and threw five scoreless innings. Maybe the Dodgers will only pitch him at home… and in the series they have at Petco in September.
One place they should NOT have him pitch is in their upcoming series at Arizona. He has never thrown well there. Lifetime record in Bank Holding Company Park: 1-7, 6.01.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Not as much as it used to be
since most of the foul territory has vanished to new seating. And, the ball jumps out of there pretty well during the day. The park isn’t as friendly to pitchers as it was before the reconstruction.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 19, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Good for Maddux
Nice to see him finish the last 6 weeks of his career under Joe Torre and a semi-winning situation in Los Angeles. I’m not sure Maddux will help the Dodgers. I think I would give hotshot Clayton Kershaw. Maddux should do okay in Dodger Stadium, but he needs quality run support and a quality bullpen behind him. Not sure the Dodgers give him that, Manny or no Manny.
The Dodgers suck
they would be in 4th place in the Central, 13 games out.
Ned “The Genius” Colletti obviously has the budget to sign anyone, no matter the cost, or how stupid. Greg Maddux, at the end of the line cashing checks, is not going to make that big of a difference to them, imo.
Look at Coletti: He loves the senior circuit – A. Jones, Jason Schmidt, Nomar, Jeff Kent, etc. – and now he sign Maddux – again. The team has no reliable closer. They can’t hit consistently – and they sign Manny – the Dodger equiv. of Sammy “Me Me”.
Greg Maddux is one of the great ones. I wish we had him when it mattered, the 2nd time. Now, he’ll give a decent performance every couple starts as a 5th starter on a mediocre team.
I would think with the Dodger’s vaunted farm system that they could have filled in with a #5 with someone who could equal a 4.00ERA – Dodger stadium is also a more hitter’s friendly ballpark (except not at night so much) than Petco.
I hope Greg has fun at least in LA, in their run.
Quite The Post
…. anyway, as far as Ramirez goes, tha was a no-brainer for Colletti. They sent away two guys they likely weren’t going to use, and Boston is picking up all his salary. Manny has been on fire for them, and has been the catalyst for the Dodgers’ recent run.
And if you think Colletti has the budget to sign anyone, I’d love to know why you think that, your post here notwithstanding. McCourt vetoed a Sa-Sa-Sabathia trade that was in place.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
Saito, when healthy
is a terrific closer. Jonathan Broxton, when he’s bringing his “A” game is also pretty good to close. Manny has suddenly has changed the entire face of their line-up. He may be me-me, but he’s brought enthusiam to the team, which was sleep-walking until he arrived.
The Dodgers aren’t the greatest, and they are playing in a weak division, but to say they ‘suck’ is incorrect. Or, you are not paying attention. With Manny, they now have enough offense to win the division. Whether or not Maddux makes a difference, remains to be seen.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 19, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Dodgers Don't Exactly Suck
They’ve jelled as a team just as they picked up Ramirez and Casey Blake. They’ve decided to bench Jones and Pierre, so now have an infield of Loney, Kent, Garciaparra and Blake, an outfield of Ramirez, Kemp and Ethier with Martin catching. Lowe, Billingsley, Kuroda and Kershaw with Maddux as a fill-in and that’s good enough to win the N.L. West. Jonathan Broxton is a behemoth of a closer who is still learning the job. Not a position line up built for the future, but decent enough for now, especially with Torre to massage fragile egos, both young and old.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
This move was consumated....
to get the Dodgers in the playoffs. If they make it, their first opponant will most likely be the Cubs at Wrigley. I like our chances.
I am happy for Maddux but I am happie this means the Cubs won't make a sentimental move for him.
Perception is 9/10ths of the law. - Steve Young, NFL legend and multiple concussion recipient.
i'm looking forward to the snakes and the shakes
both having a solid few weeks and blowing past the suddenly putrid nl least poseurs.
then the cubs can face the mets/phils/or marlins in a 5-game series if they win the nl central. the mets lead the snake by only 3 in the loss column.
I'd rather not play the Marlins again, thank you.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
prefer them to the snakes
despite the numbers the fish have in postseason
No Marlins
Don’t want to see them again this year.
And the Dodgers have more than enough talent in their lineup and SP to pose a serious challenge in the playoffs. Of course, Lowe-Billingsley-Kuroda is not Webb-Harden-Unit.
I’d definitely rather have LA than AZ take the division.
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Aug 19, 2008 8:01 AM CDT reply actions
YIPPEE !!
Well I did not get home till midnight last night and I saw the ESPN crawl that a trade was being "reported " and waited up till it was confirmed. I e mail regularly with two equally crazed Maddux fans ( trust me one is actually more crazed than me) and both had predicted this. The first said last week Penny would go on the DL ( before he even started FYI) and the 2nd that the trade would happen this weekend. Well it took Ned two extra weeks to get this done but I blame the cheap ass McCourts. Stories out of San Diego were that the Dodgers wanted the Padres to pay ALMOST ALL OF HIS SALARY which was nuts.
For the record Maddux has been pitching great lately both at home AND on the road. He thrives in Dodger Stadium and the fans treat him like a rock star ( they arrive on time and wait till he leaves to leave at least when I went in 06). I think he will give the Dodgers the edge to win the West but be careful what you wish for in terms of opponents. The D’Backs do have two very dominant starters but the Dodgers have excellent young pitchers and a MUCH better bullpen.
One other downside for the Cubs is the Padres 4 game series against Brewers in Sept just got even easier to win ( however I hear Estes will be back shortly to join the rotation).
I hope Russell Martin has learned not to play cards with Maddux was beating the crap out of him within a few hours of getting to LA the last time ( not a good idea to play poker with him anyway). You can expect food fights, farting contests and all variety of gross humor in the Dodgers clubhouse now and believe it or not it seems to help teams stay loose. I really hope Madog and the Dodgers work out so well they decide to try it again next season.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
“However I hear Estes will be back shortly to join the rotation”
Those words make the other 31 teams break into a cold sweat, quivering in their collective sliding shorts.
"Hey! If the moon were made of ribs, wouldja eat it? I know I would!"
It gets scarier
Tomko is due back too. They might sweep that 4 game series in Milwaukee.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 19, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if Cecil Cooper will predict it
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 19, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
31 teams?
Did we add two when I wasn’t looking?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
that quinn is a cub killer
when is his contract up?
I have them as a lock
to win the AL Central Skeletor Division.
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 19, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
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