Pregame Thread: Cubs vs. Reds, Tuesday 8/19, 7:05 CT
Cincinnati Reds @ Chicago Cubs
Today is the 39th anniversary of Kenny Holtzman's no-hitter vs. the Braves, an unusual no-hitter because there were no strikeouts. The wind was blowing in on a cool August day and that helped Holtzman, as a ball hit by Hank Aaron that normally would have been on Waveland was blown back and caught in the well by Billy Williams in the 7th inning. Paul Sullivan has a nice recap article in today's Tribune which also contains the text of the game stories written at the time.
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Reminder, the above stat line is Harden's numbers with the Cubs only. See the pitcher box for his full-season stats.
Johnny Cueto beat the Cubs in Cincinnati on May 5, and they beat him at Wrigley Field on July 9. Cueto is 1-3, 5.63 in his last 7 starts and is second in the NL in HR allowed. Aramis Ramirez homered off him in the July game and Geovany Soto took him deep in the May game.
Rich Harden let Lou know that he likes pitching at night and in cooler weather, so that's the main reason he was pushed back from the Marlins series to start tonight. He did start once vs. the Reds in interleague play with Oakland, but that was in 2004 -- there's only one player who was in that game who's still on the Reds (Javier Valentin). Valentin is 1-for-3 lifetime vs. Harden, who threw five shutout innings in Atlanta last Wednesday, although he walked five.
Today's game is on cable in Chicago and Cincinnati. Also see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Once again, a reminder that you can find the overflow comment threads, including the first pitch thread, on the right sidebar of both the front page and any interior page in the box headed "RECENT STORIES IN GAME THREADS". Today's first pitch thread posts at 7 pm CT, and the overflow comment threads will post at 8 pm, 9 pm and 9:45 pm CT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Ohhh yess!!!! Finally!!!
Almost time! These recent off-days have seemed to take FOREVER…..
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 19, 2008 4:01 PM CDT 0 recs
Just got my KU football tickets today
See you @ Arrowhead on the 29th of November.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on
Aug 19, 2008 4:44 PM CDT
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See you there sir.
With a National Title on the line…I’m going to St. Louis next weekend for the Illinois game. PUMPED.
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on
Aug 19, 2008 4:45 PM CDT
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You're going down!!!
Reed Ballgame - best CF in the MLB
by californiachicagoan on
Aug 19, 2008 5:12 PM CDT
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We could have a BCB beer at Arrowhead
with you, me and nji
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on
Aug 19, 2008 4:46 PM CDT
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oooh!
third! waint that;’s not too cool
"That guy is a gamer." said Ron Santo of Reed Johnson on 07-25-08
by love the ivy on Aug 19, 2008 4:02 PM CDT 0 recs
You get a bronze
Good times!
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on
Aug 19, 2008 4:12 PM CDT
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Some people wait a lifetime
for a moment like this * holding back tears of pride *
"That guy is a gamer." said Ron Santo of Reed Johnson on 07-25-08
by love the ivy on
Aug 19, 2008 5:43 PM CDT
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Kelly would be proud.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
by sue369 on
Aug 19, 2008 5:50 PM CDT
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and not typed very good either
"That guy is a gamer." said Ron Santo of Reed Johnson on 07-25-08
by love the ivy on Aug 19, 2008 4:02 PM CDT 0 recs
I think that Cueto and Volquez
are both running out of gas, thanks to Dusty’s pristine pitcher-management…Or mis-management…Let’s jump on him early tonight!
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Aug 19, 2008 4:04 PM CDT 0 recs
You think that's bad
Look at what Aaron Harang’s gamelogs are like this year. Especially the May 22nd-29th managerial masterpiece!
The critical thing to understand is that major-league pitchers don't appear to have the ability to prevent hits on balls in play. There are many possible reasons why this is the case, and I don't really have a concrete idea as to why it is.
But the one thing I do know is that it is the case.
--Voros McCracken
by nbt on
Aug 19, 2008 4:21 PM CDT
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Cool chat with Fonte on the front page....
Somehow, him saying that he likes to hunt doesn’t surprise me.
Not cutting on him, he just looks like a country boy, who would like it out in the woods.
by Jimsil on Aug 19, 2008 4:08 PM CDT 0 recs
startin early
nice!
"That guy is a gamer." said Ron Santo of Reed Johnson on 07-25-08
by love the ivy on
Aug 19, 2008 4:09 PM CDT
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TWSS!
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on
Aug 19, 2008 4:14 PM CDT
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Hahahahaaa
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on
Aug 19, 2008 4:17 PM CDT
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That she wants to have sex with me.
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by neverAcquiesce on
Aug 19, 2008 4:22 PM CDT
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Thats not how I heard it.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Aug 19, 2008 4:22 PM CDT
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Shhh...
I’m trying to boost my cred.
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by neverAcquiesce on
Aug 19, 2008 4:22 PM CDT
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It's what I heard.
Consider your cred boosted.
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on
Aug 19, 2008 4:24 PM CDT
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Dick Harden on the mound tonight!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on
Aug 19, 2008 4:28 PM CDT
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oooh, that’s dirty
Disposable dixie cup drinkin... I'm hiding out in the big city blinking...
by N Oakley on
Aug 19, 2008 4:28 PM CDT
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Yes, the mound is made of dirt.
One gold star.
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by neverAcquiesce on
Aug 19, 2008 4:29 PM CDT
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LOL
Someone is in 7th inning strech form today. :-P
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Aug 19, 2008 4:28 PM CDT
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TWHS
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Aug 19, 2008 4:31 PM CDT
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ZING!
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on
Aug 19, 2008 4:32 PM CDT
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One off day
and all the pent up one liners come out :-)
by chitownhawkeye on
Aug 19, 2008 5:50 PM CDT
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Uh, yeah...
…I’m gonna need a signed letter of verification on that one.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on
Aug 19, 2008 4:25 PM CDT
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TWSS
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on
Aug 19, 2008 4:25 PM CDT
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She says a lot...
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on
Aug 19, 2008 4:26 PM CDT
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Technical balk.
Laughing at your own joke.
Umps 1, Reds 0, Cubs 0
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by neverAcquiesce on
Aug 19, 2008 4:28 PM CDT
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I was responding to Drew!
But I did after I posted….
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on
Aug 19, 2008 4:30 PM CDT
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Then SBNation technical balked on you.
Umps 2, Reds 0, Cubs 0
Not looking good.
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by neverAcquiesce on
Aug 19, 2008 4:31 PM CDT
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I have a feeling the umps are going to win
a blowout today.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on
Aug 19, 2008 4:32 PM CDT
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Well thats good
its obvious they don’t get enough credit.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Aug 19, 2008 4:33 PM CDT
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and they don't have enough power
big ol mean baseball players, actually wanting them to look at the base…
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on
Aug 19, 2008 4:33 PM CDT
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They need to take control back...
…And the Olympic Judges just scored a quick 9.25…Things do not look good…
Umps 2, Olympic Judges 9.25, Cubs 0, Reds 0
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on
Aug 19, 2008 4:34 PM CDT
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lol!
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on
Aug 19, 2008 4:35 PM CDT
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Considering Cubs start down a run tonight because we are at home
I dont see the Umps or Judges blowing this lead
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on
Aug 19, 2008 4:36 PM CDT
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but what if the umps
aren’t perfectly synchronized? They’re all supposed to do the same thing, remember.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on
Aug 19, 2008 4:37 PM CDT
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Isn't questioning the umps enough to get
strikes added to your count?
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Aug 19, 2008 4:38 PM CDT
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Soriano leads off
with an 0-2 count…
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on
Aug 19, 2008 4:39 PM CDT
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And foul balls with 2 strikes
are outs
Brian McRae's 5 O'Clock Shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on
Aug 19, 2008 4:40 PM CDT
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the important thing is....
do they count as pitches in the pitch count?
by tim815 on
Aug 19, 2008 5:19 PM CDT
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it's a completely non-subjective
sport. Therefore, it’s the best evar.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on
Aug 19, 2008 4:39 PM CDT
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Just wait til replay hits.
Umps’ll finally get theirs!
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by neverAcquiesce on
Aug 19, 2008 4:38 PM CDT
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The judges will make sure to help out the Umps
So out of sync umps will be saved by scared and biased judges.
Also to form an even playing field tonight half our runs go to the Reds
Missouri Tigers 2008 Cotton Bowl Champs
by nji232 on
Aug 19, 2008 4:39 PM CDT
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I thought
they were going to add special inflatable bleachers to seat an extra 10,000 Reds fans.
What’s that you say? There aren’t 10,000 current Reds fans?
And another technical Balk on Cincy. They start the game down a run. Umps 2, Judges 16.24, Cubs 0, Reds -1.
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on
Aug 19, 2008 4:41 PM CDT
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And having negative runs
is another technical balk, as your great-grandfather never would have seen something like that.
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on
Aug 19, 2008 4:42 PM CDT
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THROW IT AT HIS HEAD!
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on
Aug 19, 2008 4:43 PM CDT
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Come on!
That judge clearly landed on her knees!
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by neverAcquiesce on
Aug 19, 2008 4:36 PM CDT
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THE SYSTEM IS FLAWED.
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on
Aug 19, 2008 4:37 PM CDT
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It seems forever
since a game. Pitch well Rich.
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
by sue369 on Aug 19, 2008 4:10 PM CDT 0 recs
Would be nice if he could go 7 tonight.
Theriot, Fonty, and Johnson = The Scrappy Pyramid of Victory
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on
Aug 19, 2008 4:12 PM CDT
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That would be fantastic
Good luck Shawn Johnson, Lolo Jones and Doug Schwab. Bring home the gold!!!
by sue369 on
Aug 19, 2008 4:18 PM CDT
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Hes not a 7 inning pitcher
I’d rather have 6 solid (shutout?) innings than see him be forced to go 7 and get hurt.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Aug 19, 2008 4:18 PM CDT
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all depends on how many pitches
he takes to get there
by SuperContext on
Aug 19, 2008 4:33 PM CDT
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anyone get ESPN Insider ? Please HELP
There are two article on the Maddux trade I would love to read but I can’t access. If any kind soul out there can help please e mail me at jrosner at kino dot com.
Thanks
FYI her is an article you might I guess I like re Maddux & Dodgers
http://mvn.com/mlb-dodgers/2008/08/18/maddux-is-secured-again/
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 19, 2008 4:11 PM CDT 0 recs
Yeah I'll email you Jessica
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on
Aug 19, 2008 4:17 PM CDT
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hooray!
pregame thread!!!!!!
BATS BATS BATS BATS BATS BATS BATS!
Our 2008 Chicago Cubs -- FINDING WAYS TO WIN!
by drewishdrewid on Aug 19, 2008 4:12 PM CDT 0 recs
Ya know
day game followed by off day followed by night game makes for a long wait between games. Gah.
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Aug 19, 2008 4:16 PM CDT 0 recs
I seem to recall that...
…after Cueto’s first couple starts, he was looking pretty unhittable. That’s clearly not the case now, though his K:BB ratio remains impressive. Let’s hope the Cubs can make some solid and repeated contact tonight.
And I always look forward to Harden’s starts. How can ya not? He did walk a few too many guys last outing, but I have a feeling that probably won’t be the case tonight.
GO CUBS!!!
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 19, 2008 4:17 PM CDT 0 recs
Hi everyone!
After a two-week absence due to nuptials and honeymooning, I’m very happy to be back. I couldn’t follow too much because Internet was $20 a day at the resort, but much to my wife’s chagrin, I got to watch last Sunday’s game. What a jewel that was from Dempster.
Anywho, what’s the good word around here?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 19, 2008 4:17 PM CDT 0 recs
Ha
Anywho, what’s the good word around here?
At the moment, TWSS… but it changes by the moment.
(Congrats on the wedding!! Hope you had a great time)
I think it’s just his face. - dat cubfan daver
by halfblindcubbiegirl on
Aug 19, 2008 4:19 PM CDT
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Thank you!
It was a great time indeed.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on
Aug 19, 2008 4:21 PM CDT
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The good word is: Cubs!
Followed closely by: Win! Finished up by: Tonight!
Welcome back and congrats! And what kinda resort was this? Every hotel I’ve visited recently has had free Internet access.
Nanika Ga Okoru!
by dat cubfan daver on
Aug 19, 2008 4:20 PM CDT
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Thank you!
The Westin in Cabo. They gouged me. I could’ve bought a Lexus with the money I spent. A Coke was $4.50 and with Bacardi, it was $12.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.




